WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Dak's Progress Report? 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.600 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:28.160 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This this He's Talking 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:40.720 Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys training camp in Hawksnard, California. 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:46.360 Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brownis, Rob Phillips, and Bill 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:52.000 Jones and welcome into Talking Cowboys from Oxnard, California. Good 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:57.480 Happy Wednesday to everybody. Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brondess, I am 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.960 Robbed Phillips, Caden Gates and William Boykins producing just over 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:05.000 yonder at the tent. The sand Blasters back this morning. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.080 Mickey's feisty. We're ready to roll here. It's chill. It's 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.840 chilly this morning. Yeah it is. I must have to 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.960 wear my sweatpants. Got your Harbor jacket on you. It 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.440 feels like bar harbor or all of a sudden, nice 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.800 place there, that bar harbor? Yea is it is? What 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.679 about that practice yesterday? What about let's start right there, 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.720 we start right there. We got to talk football. I'll 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.360 talk some football. We'll talk a lot of football. We 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.600 get talk my mom asked, my mom asked, we talk 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.840 football today. I got my mom watches this show every day. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.000 I got a whole page to get contract stuff right 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.920 here go, Oh you got contracts. We can get to it. Yeah, 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.520 Rob will get to it now, he'll get to it. Yeah. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.080 This brought us, always keeps us in line. She's not 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.160 afraid to save the show is not good too. I 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:48.840 love it for that. I love it. I love it. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.360 And by the way, fans on periscope, yes, we love 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.600 questions we did Ryan, Yeah, and absolutely, and we'll get 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.560 to those two during the show. But yeah, we've got 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.160 Zeke update, dak Amari updates. We can get to that 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:05.880 a little bit later. We've got what a hand? We 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:10.560 got some finger Yeah, we've got a practice update. Yeah, 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.320 I've got some I got some questions for you guys 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:17.040 on some I love some progress reports. I love these guys. 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:18.320 We had a big show today. But why don't we 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.359 start with the injury. Yes, Robert Quinn break it down 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.680 for us. Doctor Spagnola got a broken bone in his hand. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.359 Had to go back home to have it surgically repaired, 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.359 which means they're putting a pin in one of these 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.560 little small bones in your hand. I think I read 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:38.360 where they compared it to DeMarco Murray's broken hand. So 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:42.160 that means probably one of these bones right here right, 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.560 and that he should be able to get back in 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.040 play so by the season opener. And I would imagine 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.880 if I remember with Murray, he kind of padded, patted 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.400 it up, the Mickey mouse hand wrapped it up, and 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.400 he had to carry the football. Robert Quinn doesn't have 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.120 to carry the football. So uh, it might have hurt 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:05.120 him from grabbing the offensive tackle, but uh, looks like 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.679 he should be back. And then we'll see where the 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.840 Luke Gifford's broken finger goes. I was right there when 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:13.960 he was walking off with one of the athletic trainers. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.200 That didn't that didn't that looked painful. Yeah, I'll say that. Yeah, Uh, 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:22.320 dislocated finger. They're checking to see if there's more in there, right, 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.800 something in addition to put a splint on it, wrap 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.880 it up. Yeah. Nineteen sixty four, let's go. Let's go 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.960 middle linebacker, Chicago Heights. You know, going back, Bucca, let 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.480 a finger keep him out going back on The Quinn 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.280 injury happened when he was trying to swat Tyron Smith 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.160 and he caught Tyron Smith's brace. You know, Tyren Smith 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.400 wears the big big like he's got a knee brace. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.240 If you haven't seen Tyren Smith, he wears it basically 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.800 a knee brace on his elbow. That's how big of 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.160 a you know, his arm is to have to take 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.760 the brace and it fits like an elbow brace. But anyway, 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.680 Quinn tried to slap him with the left hand, got 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.680 the left hand extended, it went into Smith's brace. Smith 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.040 was trying to get rid of his hands and the 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.200 brace came across and it just bent his hand. You 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.400 could see the impact of the brace on the bone 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.760 or on the top of the hand. And as soon 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.400 as it happened, Quinn knew he just stopped. He just 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.080 stopped his rush and you know, his hand was basically 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.880 just hanging like that, but a lot of heads. He 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.800 was trying to get inside leverage on Tyren Smith on 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.680 the rush, left hand extended, and Smith's brace just caught 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.720 him right on that and that's what probably it broke 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.839 the bone, and there was some suspense out here. You know, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.320 obviously he's an important going to be an important player 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.960 for this team, and head athletic trainer Jim Mauer spent 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.440 a lot of time after practice with the Jones family 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.679 updating them, and you're kind of wondering for a second, 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.080 what's going on here, Stephen Jones. Let everybody know what's 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:53.440 going on with him. It's it's a significant injury because 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.920 it's the caliber of player it is. Obviously it's good 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.960 that they expect him back for week one. But man, 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.120 you know that's the other side of the past rush 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.240 where you know, DeMarcus Lawrence is coming back from an 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.280 injury too, and so you're you're pointing for both of 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.960 those guys for week one. Uh, if it's gonna happen, happen. Now, 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.960 where's the Taco drop? Uh? Huh? Saw Taco rush yesterday 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.640 though against I think you might as might have saw 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.159 it as well. Zack and yeah, that's Zack And yeah, 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:18.920 I mean it was would have been a sack fumble. 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.360 You know, it's funny that the way that Taco did, 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.360 he showed balance and when Taco, when Taco shows balance, 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.479 he has a chance. I was down in the corner 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:28.919 of the bag drills where they go through. I have 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.760 you ever come out to camp, and we'd love to 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.800 see us say hello along the fence if you do. Um. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.240 The thing that the thing that you know, Rod Marinelli, 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.160 he went through the bags and he was better. And 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.560 and you know you could tell that Rod Marinelli. I 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.840 don't think it's just cheerleading. I think Rod Marinelli will 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.440 tell you if you're doing good. If Rod Marinelli doesn't 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.480 think you're doing good, he'll get on you. And there 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.159 were a couple of those reps over there in the 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.239 bag area where you know you could hear Rod MERRILLI. 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.960 That's it, that's it, that's it, you know, and he's 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.679 he's he's kind of encouraging. We all talk about Taco. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.719 It's just a spin move. It's no balance, it's nothing 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.480 to it. He's rushing now with a little bit of 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.200 a purpose. And like Mickey said, and you said yourself, Rop, 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.000 you know, Quinn going out next man up. Whether you 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:18.040 buy that or not. Guys like Dorn's Armstrong Taco, these 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.200 guys any type. He gets reps against Tyren Smith and 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.479 has a little bit of success, you know, that's got 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.400 to give you some encouragement. That's all I say about. 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.840 You go up against the Travis Fredericks and Zach Martin's, 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.520 even the Lyle Collins to a point, and you have 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.599 a little success against them, you can have big success 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.120 against other people in this league. You know, Dorn's Armstrong, 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.520 I think last Thursday won a one on one rep 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.560 against Tyran Smith. And it's like you've said all along, 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.400 if you win one out of five, Yeah, that's a win. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.080 That's a win. That's a win, and you can take 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.320 that with you and Dorn's Armstrong, by the way, before 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:54.080 the injury was getting left left end first team reps yesterday, 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.360 sure was well. He almost got put on the sideline 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.440 by Tyran Smith on the one on one pass rush. Yeah, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.960 I'm saying one. He came back. He just wanted no, no, no. 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.680 He came up blimp and he he he hurt his 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.800 ankle and they rewrapped it and he came back in 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:13.000 and had a good team session, but he almost got buried. 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:17.760 Taco had really good one on one's pass rush yesterday. Now, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.160 if he can only go up against Mitch Hyatt and 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.200 Jake Campos all the time, he'd be a pro bowler 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:28.760 because he destroyed those guys. He still doesn't understand that 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.640 spin move to the inside, that you can't spin before 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.680 you make contact the guy. He spins too early and 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.200 all they do is sit there they catch him. Yeah, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.520 and so he's got to learn that. But at least 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.760 he was making progress, I thought with those spin moves. Yeah, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.480 the rush that he got Tyrn Smith on wasn't a 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.760 spin move. It was right. Tyren Smith's hand came up high. 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.240 Taco able to dip it, you know. But like you said, Mickey, 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.240 have a plan before you get to where you need 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.440 to be, and he was able to get it. Once 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.600 Smith's hand went high, Taco got that shoulder underneath and 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:08.240 then was able to to sharpen the angle there. That's 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.640 what he's got to do more. These guys out here 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:14.280 know that, the smart ones, Tyrn Smith, Lyle Collins, those guys, 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.520 when they know they go against him, he's gonna spin. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:18.760 It's like it's like riding a bull if you're a 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.800 bull rider. And not that I'm a bull rider anything, 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.160 but you know this bull is going to buck three 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.680 times and spend to their left. And and that's and 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:27.800 that you know, I mean, you've seen it enough. You've 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.480 seen it enough that you say, Okay, I'm gonna sit here. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.080 I'm gonna sit here, I'm sitting now. Get it ready 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.319 for that spin, you know, ship my weight. And that's 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.640 what these offensive linemen are doing the Mitch Hides of 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.480 the world and guys like that Jay Campos, they haven't 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.160 seen that, so it's hard for them to kind of 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.679 and you know, the athletic ability is a little bit, 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.040 well not a little bit, a lot less off with 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.480 those two guys. You think the Cowboys have a scouting 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.120 report on the bulls all you know, Yeah, you need 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.120 here's what this bull does. No, yeah, I'll tell you what. 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:56.680 Running with the bulls, that's something I want to do. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.560 Actually you do not, Yeah, dude, you know it's always 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.040 somebody from Illinois that gets hurt, and that somebody gets 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.559 hurt Illinois years. Every year. God, here we go, we'll 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.840 get hurt. We're going off the path. But in Pamplona. 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.720 I've checked this. It's a statistic. I swear to you that, Pete. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.720 There's every year somebody from Illinois gets killed. Right, there's 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.120 something happens to the state of Illinois running with the 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:21.520 bulls that we speak Speaking of Illinois, I met Kellen 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.920 Moore's dad and he came up and induced me. He 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:27.640 was introduced himself at practice. There you go. We basically 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.240 coach we but basically grew up a forest preserve away 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:37.839 from each other when his dad was high school coach. Uh, 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.679 he's still coaching too. By the way, his brother coaches 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.160 at Fresno. Now right, it's in their jeans. I'm telling you, 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.880 I thought he had a good day calling plays yesterday. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.640 He went after Chris Shard, and those guys showed us 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.200 a couple of little things different, some wrinkles little to 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.720 some rerinkles. So before we get to that, I've got 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:58.080 a list here of guys that either didn't practice because 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.319 of injury, just didn't practice because they were in Cabo, 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.719 or didn't practice because they had more than one that 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.880 they they had a vet date. Sixteen guys did not 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:13.200 participate yesterday practice. And by the way, they signed a guard. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.000 He's listed as a tackle. Okay, can't pronounce his name, 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:21.160 Lucaius McNeil, Lucaius, I think so. Yeah, it was Lucas, 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.800 but Lucius I haven't heard. Maybe it is Lucas. I'm 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.800 not I think it's just a funny way of spelling Lucas. Okay, 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.040 all right, it's McNeil. Yeah. He's a rookie at of Louisville. 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.400 He's six six three twenty eight. He's listed as a tackle, 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.920 but he played guard as well in college. He would 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.960 be both. He was listed as a guard in Oakland. Yeah, 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.480 and I think that me, I think that mean that's 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.240 terrible English. I think that what we're going to see 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:49.520 is Brandon Knight be a full tis already already full time. Yeah, 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.800 he's a guard. Uh. And they're trying to shovel things 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.760 around one of the other rookies, Derek Pooney, he was out. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.480 It was out as well. So they are they are 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.600 They cannot have that happened. Derek Pooney does not, he can't. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.320 You if you're a guy trying to make this team, 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:09.120 you know, and trust me, I appreciate injury. I'm not appreciate. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:15.440 I understand injury. I'm having a terrible show today already. Uh, 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.640 it's no different. But the thing is, though, if you're 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.559 one of those guys, you can't be hurt. If you're 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.120 Derrek Pooney, you're fighting for a practice squad spot, you 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.760 know what you're You're trying to show toughness and and 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.720 and be a reliable guy and getting these games and 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.520 and and do some good and maybe be a practice squad. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.120 A big reason Rico Gathers got released when he did 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.120 because not only you know, was it a numbers game, 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.400 but he was dealing with an ankle, right, he wasn't 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.800 really really ready to go full full go all right, 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.679 go down your list, man Lant. And by the way, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.880 Lance Lenore is in that same boat. Can't miss right, 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:54.679 the ship's sailing, and Westreet say, they'll put you on 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:59.079 that final list. It's like, okay, rehab, get healthy and 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:04.280 see you up because you can't. Okay, So Amari Lenore Westry, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:09.640 Zach Martin Wickman to Marcus Lawrence, Tyrone, Crawford or Brown, 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:15.840 Connor McGovern, Sean Lee, Byron Jones, Zeke, Travis Vett, Day 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.920 and then Pooney and then before it was over, Gifford 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:23.440 and Quinn. That's a long list that there's some important 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:28.640 guys in there too. Oh good one seventeen another one. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.400 I haven't seen him. I haven't him. I haven't seen 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.360 him in so long. I forgot he was here. He 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.000 did a show at six twenty local time, and he forgot. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.800 He forgot. Good. You haven't seen him though, Yeah, where's 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:41.959 he been. He's been standing on the sideline, Yeah, next 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.480 to you. That's never a good thing. That's too many. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:46.880 And they haven't played a game. They haven't played a 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.439 game yet, so yeah, they got to get through this 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:55.200 week because I would imagine next week get back. Monday 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.839 will be an easy day. I think I saw a 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.640 walk through on Monday. Try and practice Tuesday, Wednesday, and 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.319 you leave on Thursday. Yeah, they're getting out of the 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.200 last few practices out here. Um, so if you live 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.040 in the ox Nard area, comes come see us. Yeah, 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:10.800 there's only a few of these left. Um, all right, 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.520 any other standouts from practice? I got one, I got 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.439 a bunch, but go ahead about that number eighteen, Yes 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.120 about Randall Cop? Anybody else asking questions about him? Where's 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.720 he at? What's he doing? Yeah? Randall Cop played well, yes, 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.760 down the field down guess why he played? How about 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.200 number fourth throwing? The quarterback was driving the ball down? 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.960 I mean driving, yes, yes, very sharp in the team period, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.480 um and seven on seven seven he lit him up. 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.559 And you and Dave did training camp live? Please check 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.679 that out? Yeah yeah, um Rob Phillips today, by the way, 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.839 on that is it my day today? Yeah? All right? Uh. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.480 Tony Pollard very involved with the first team offense in 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:54.920 the early seventeen piece. Yes, I mean he's moved up 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.280 the ladder. Every time he turned around, it was draw 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.079 to Pollard for a side game out screen into a 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.000 screen of Pollard in the flat. I mean he was 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.280 highly involved with the first team offense. And Alfred Morris, 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:08.920 by the way, he moved double with some second team, right, 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:10.920 Alfred Morris. I was gonna say that. The thing about 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.079 Pollard what what's what's good about Pollard is the fact 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.760 that the OC was on board with getting him. So 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:18.800 if you're one of those guys that's on board with 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.120 like trying to bring a player on, better use him, 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.560 better use him. It better not be it better you 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.680 better not have the owner general manager walking there and 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.160 go Kellen, Uh, we drafted this kid. You're gonna do 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.560 anything with him. He It's to the point where maybe 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.400 the general manager's gonna have to say, hey, listen, we 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.800 need to give this kid a vet day just to 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.720 catch his breath, you know. Yeah doing well, Yeah, and 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.800 Webber doing well coming on yeah. And they could not 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.000 cover Witten yesterday. Yeah. The old man, he's found the 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:50.280 fountain of youth somewhere right at ESPN in Bristol. When 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.240 he was up there, he was bathed in himself and 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.720 the fountain of youth, because if you look at him 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.360 running routes, he doesn't have that mummy look. That's stiff, 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.840 that kind of guy, you know, like Frankenstein walking here. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.560 His hips are working. Yeah, he is. He's got some 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.160 flexibility to his game. Now, let's see what happens in 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.960 week thirteen, in week fourteen where maybe the body starts. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:15.840 But it's amazing what how he looks now as opposed 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.520 to what we saw a year ago, removed when he 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.120 was retiring. That it's almost like he's turned back the 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.480 clock five years. Well, he's moving a lot better. But 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.040 but but but it's it has to do with and 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.520 training camp Live. Yesterday I was telling Robi as I 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.840 was telling David, I go you get him inside eighteen 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.160 yards where it's just a short burst and then some finish. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.360 Jason Witton is gonna wear you out. He did it. 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.840 He did, Yes, he ran. They got down there inside 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.240 about the nine yard line and he found it. He 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.160 found the perfect spot between a linebacker and a safety. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.680 It just curled it back inside and Dak knew where 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.320 he was gonna go with the ball. He knew Witt 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.720 was just gonna He's gonna uncover himself right there, easy 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.560 throw touchdown. Yeah, it's like those ten months off just 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.640 kind of got rid of all the nagging stuff that 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.560 had been bother you know, just the yeats and paints 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:08.280 for over fifteen years of not missing anything. So once 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.040 again we saw where everybody was all hot and bothered 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.080 about how well the defense played in the Blue White Church, 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.440 and then they come back on Tuesday and the offense 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.560 kind of took over again. It's it's exactly's back and forth. 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.720 It's exactly what Jason Garrett told us the other day. 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:27.880 He appreciates the the defense offense, defense offense. I mean 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.960 that that's that's good for his for his team. If 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.800 we're out here every day and it's like, oh my gosh, Micky, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.400 there's a lot of questions in that secondary. They can't 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.200 cover anybody, and then we do five six, seven shows 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.000 in a row where that's all we talk about. Then 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.360 that's not good on that, that's not good overall for 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.280 the team. That's one side of your team probably stinks, 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.360 you know, if it's getting constantly beat. I've been on 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.800 those teams where one side of the team stunk, Yeah, 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.240 and it's nowhere both sides. Yeah, do you cover that. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.840 That was Mickey and Nick Eatman. They remind me every 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.920 day of how bad of a scout I was. I 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.560 don't think it was scouting. I think that salary cap 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.520 had a lot to do. We making. We We botched 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.080 that a lot. But anyway, that's another day. I'll give 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:12.880 you got some deep blues coming Hey, you're deep blue 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.679 hunt coming out, deep blue, Welcome to Switzerland. Two words 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.480 coming out today, three o'clock Central time. I love looking 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.679 back at that stuff. Where I find it. You can 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.240 find it on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, the mobile app, 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.360 our social channels, are connected TV app anywhere you want 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.480 to go, any real TV. It's gonna air locally on 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.160 Channel eleven. I believe before the game there you go. Okay, 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.160 you're in the area, just get out Saturday. I believe 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.800 that's correct. That good stuff set my DVR. Yeah, thank you, Brian, Yeah, 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.880 no problem. Check that out. And thank you to coach 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.320 Switzer for for letting us into his home back in 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.080 February and uh spending some time with us. So that 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.880 was fun. Uh recap in ninety four and ninety five 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.400 back then, could you have had a like a two 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.920 hour show if he just aired the interview No doubt, 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.320 No doubt as fun as as interviewing Bill Parcels was 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.760 last year that you talk about two personalities from the 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:12.560 head coaching position. I still think we should do It's Hey, 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.280 Mike Bradley wants to know. We were talking about witting 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.800 a little bit. But do you think he it's sixty 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.600 percent of the snaps for him would be good? Is 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.920 that a low number a high number? Something? I wanted 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.280 to kind of get that answer. That's a great question. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.520 I don't I don't have a fuel for it at 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.040 this point. I know it's not going to be ninety nine. Yeah, 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.679 and I know it's not gonna be less than fifty. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.680 I think he's gonna be out there a good bit, right. Well, 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.719 that's the way they've been practicing it. But they also 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.760 have been using quite a bit of two tight end 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.760 and Blake Jarwin. I don't think they want to lose 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:50.440 Blake Jarwin like they want to use him. Uh yeah. 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.360 And and and you know, even in some of those 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.760 Nickels situations when they got to get the ball down 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:59.400 the field, they've been putting him in there. Yeah. So yeah, 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.680 it'll be in wrestling to see how they split it. 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.200 I think they realized they can't wear Witten out. I 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.280 think you're right about that great more than anything else. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.040 You right there, can't wear him out, So you want 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.000 them in there for you know, Brian said, Game thirteen, 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.199 make sure he's still freshen going and now and now 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.160 you're in a position where you have a couple young 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.320 tight ends that have been in the league and played 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.000 that can shoulder some of the load. So in the 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:33.399 scrimmage they called a double hold on him. I've never 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.160 heard of a double hole. Does that mean you held 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.440 no on Witten? They held him twice the guys or 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.480 two guys held the same guy, I'm not sure. But 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.440 he was giving that official what for. Oh, he was 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.879 fired up. And it was like the first play of 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.119 the team portion of usually scrimmage. Whitnen it could be 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:56.960 very violent in his discussions with not only teammates but 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.240 buss you, but but also with uh. But he it 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.960 was NFL officials. It's kind of like it's got like 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.400 he had sixteen weeks of pin up watching watching them 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.520 from a booth like dude things. And he said, you 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.080 know what, I'm gonna give this side judge back, judge whoever, 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.080 A lot of Greek gave it to him, a lot 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.840 of greedy. I could see the fire, Dave. He was 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.679 upset the first plane, but good, Yeah, absolutely they need 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.600 more of that. Uh question again, if I could we 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.600 talked about Brandon Knight a little bit. Is does he 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:29.760 have a shot here? Does he have a shot to 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.480 beat out of Sue of Philo or somebody like that? 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.840 Could he be the tenth lineman? Could he be the 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.240 ninth lineman? Or we are we are we just we 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.000 kind of touched on at the end of this or 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.159 is that just? Is that just that a necessity a 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.680 move and let's see how it goes. I think he's 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:46.879 setting himself up for a practice squad spot. I know 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.200 they like him. It's just it could be a numbers 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.920 crunch though to your point, but Sue of Philo like 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.600 our odd Would Sue of Philo be your ninth lineman? 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:59.399 I'm trying to count who we did. A lot happens whim, 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:04.640 that happens, what happens with McGovern Because if you count 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:09.159 McGovern then that's four backups, right, Dior, if you count Sua, Philo, 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:13.320