WEBVTT - #515 - Reason 

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<v Speaker 1>Ya ya, y'all. What's the deal?

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<v Speaker 2>Sha boy Reason check me out on the Bootleg Cap podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>the next one right now, Come on, yo, boutlet cap

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<v Speaker 4>podcast man.

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<v Speaker 1>Special guests in here. My guy Reason is back, Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>finally after Yeah, he missed the podcast when he rolled

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<v Speaker 1>out porches, but he's here. Two years later. Welcome sir,

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize about that. It's all good, man, it's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a lot going on, yeah I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot on the messiest album out of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but we're here. How you been, man, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been good. I've been good.

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<v Speaker 2>Just rebuilding, you know, finalizing the team, finalizing projects. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to drop three this year, so I just been working.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was telling my manager Jy, like I'm exhausted,

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<v Speaker 2>but a good exhausted, like not not like burnt out.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean for you is that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like it's got to feel good to be like I

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<v Speaker 1>can put out three albums this year and it's up.

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<v Speaker 2>To you, right, it's up to me. And knowing that,

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<v Speaker 2>like if I wanted to come out, it'll come out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like little things like I was. I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to the team and like when we dropped out of

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<v Speaker 2>joint with Bo's not what you think, that was the

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<v Speaker 2>first joint that I've ever dropped that wasn't at least

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<v Speaker 2>a year old. So that was crazy for me, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I've never put out a song that wasn't at least

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<v Speaker 2>like at least a year at least a year, like,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was still emotionally connected with it. Cause that's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things, like whenever I would drop music,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be hard to talk about me because I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even that person anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, It's crazy people don't realize like artists they

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<v Speaker 1>I guy, what you call demoitis is that in yea

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<v Speaker 1>where you get tired of your own ship hasn't heard it.

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<v Speaker 2>You either get tired of your own ship or you

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<v Speaker 2>hear it one way so long that then when it's

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<v Speaker 2>about to come out, the label might like make a

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<v Speaker 2>last minute change to it, and now you hate it

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<v Speaker 2>because you're like or you're like, no, I like the original.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the original, or the fans don't know but

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<v Speaker 1>the fans don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you figure out you couldn't clear the sample, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to remake the sample, and now you hate the record,

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<v Speaker 2>but they love it, but you hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, yeah, that's got to be refreshing, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it feels. It feels good for you. Man. So

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<v Speaker 1>are you strictly independent? Do you got a distro situation? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What is I got like a partnership distro situation? A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of distros came to me It was funny because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of labels like right when I left, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>like I had a lot of deals on the table,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were all just like throwing money my way.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just kept telling them like, bro, I just

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<v Speaker 2>got to like the last thing I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>is you know when money comes long term, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>why would I go into another situation like that? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like a partnership distroal situation though, yeah, one that's like

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<v Speaker 2>under Next Records. So yeah, Next Records. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>got like Bennie the Butcher Davies, like a few people

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<v Speaker 2>that's in that pocket. So that was another thing that

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<v Speaker 2>interests me because it's kind of like in the wave

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<v Speaker 2>of kind of what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of waves, wave shout out to my mama. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, yo, Uh talk to me like for you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the last couple of years been like? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you probably found out one who like

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<v Speaker 1>some of your real friends are and who were just

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<v Speaker 1>like showing the street man, what was the process like

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<v Speaker 1>going through that? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to my brother about that ship, like

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see that coming. There were certain relationships. There

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<v Speaker 2>were certain relationships that I didn't know were as strong

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<v Speaker 2>as they were, Like I left, and then we became

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<v Speaker 2>even closer and tighter and people reached out and was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, yo, you know, I just want to let

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like you know, I fuck with you, our

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<v Speaker 2>rock with you, like you've always been solid. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we locked in, And so I had more of those

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<v Speaker 2>than the other way around. But then there were certain

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<v Speaker 2>relationships where him like niggas un followed me like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's followed me like don't answer the phone no more,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like all right, bet. But I always

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<v Speaker 2>look at stuff like that as a blessing because it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's better to kind of know than to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have a situation where you know, people just if they

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they got to choose side, which I've always

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<v Speaker 2>tried to like tread the line of making people not

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they have to choose sides and telling the

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<v Speaker 2>story in a way to where you know, people don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way, but if they feel like they got

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<v Speaker 2>a cheoe sides, people choose sides. And there's just certain

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<v Speaker 2>relationships that I had where it's still love on my end,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could tell that it was like, oh, so

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<v Speaker 2>you was just fucking with me because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was TD, you know what I mean, which is it's

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<v Speaker 1>all good. Was there anybody with TD that like they

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<v Speaker 1>used to keep in contact with?

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<v Speaker 2>I still I still talk to Ray and then I'll

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<v Speaker 2>still talk to DOCIH shout out to Doci. She's going

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<v Speaker 2>fucking insane. Yeah, but I knew that was the day

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<v Speaker 2>I met Doci. I told Moose, was like, she's fucking

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, Like I think.

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<v Speaker 1>You were there when she had a little like introduction

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<v Speaker 1>to LA party where she performed and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>some airplanes shure, yeah, yep, yep. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the nah, bro?

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<v Speaker 2>Like the the thing about Dochi that's so special, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>is that if you like, from the day I met her,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a conversation, she's always talking like long term,

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<v Speaker 2>like she's always she was always thinking like nine steps ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>and to be that young black woman in this industry

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<v Speaker 2>where it's at right now because the best time for

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<v Speaker 2>black women also talented and to have like that type

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<v Speaker 2>of mind, I was just like, yeah, she's out of here,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So those are probably the

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<v Speaker 2>only two though that I still like keep in contact with.

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<v Speaker 2>If I run into niggas though it's love and I

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<v Speaker 2>just running a start not too long ago. Yeah racist, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she was so purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's crazy, like how she rolled out

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<v Speaker 1>her career because she like this new album is like

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<v Speaker 1>really like a boombab rap album. Yeah yeah, but like

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<v Speaker 1>her biggest record prior to this was the what it

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<v Speaker 1>is before that, it was The Persuasion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I tell people, bro, It's like her

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<v Speaker 2>her bag is like I genuinely believe. And I see

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<v Speaker 2>some of her fans, so the dochik don't come from

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<v Speaker 2>me but I because they hate comparing. But I genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>believe she's gonna be like as big as Beyonce in

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<v Speaker 2>the Rap. I genuinely yeah. I literally have said that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's going to be there. There will be

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<v Speaker 2>a day where she's the biggest artist on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean she had my Alma of the Year

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<v Speaker 1>last year. A lot of people want, you're fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, you haven't heard the album. And then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, the Grammy buzz starts rolling and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody gets hip and then that fucking uh she did that?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>DENIALA is the river with the Yeah, kids, that shit's over. TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah wow Yeah for you man. You said, you know

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<v Speaker 1>when when you when you came in, you were like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had to get away a little bit. Was there,

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a reset you had to go through

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like you've had like a you've had

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<v Speaker 1>like a great career for an artist, especially someone who

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<v Speaker 1>makes fucking real ship, you know what I'm saying, But

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<v Speaker 1>like rap rap music of get thrown in the blender

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like leaving TDE and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>shit that was out there were like like how did

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of prepare yourself mentally for like this new

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<v Speaker 1>era of your career.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely had to hit a reset. I was living

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<v Speaker 2>like too close. I call it, like living in your

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<v Speaker 2>work when you live in like Hollywood and shit like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Yeah, so it's like everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>you go, you know what I mean, It's just like

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<v Speaker 2>music or entertainment shit, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 2>kind of moved out a little bit east and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I just got back like in the studio alone,

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<v Speaker 2>like just on some studio shit, like trying to rEFInd

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<v Speaker 2>the love.

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<v Speaker 1>For it because I had lost the love for it.

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<v Speaker 2>It started feeling like I was like just clocking into work,

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<v Speaker 2>like when I would go to the studio at the

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<v Speaker 2>TD Base, like I would feel like literally, I started

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like when I had a job, like Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here and I'll be looking at the clock like how

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<v Speaker 2>many more hours of my session?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when you're when you're in a creative job

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<v Speaker 2>and you feel that way, it's never gonna go well

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<v Speaker 2>because your mind got to be in a certain space

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<v Speaker 2>to even want to create, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to my boy about it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was sending him the ship from me and Kas's project

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<v Speaker 2>coming out, and he was like, bro, you got like

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<v Speaker 2>way better. And I told him, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I got way better. I just think I

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<v Speaker 2>started liking it again, you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 2>started liking doing music again. So I wasn't kind of

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<v Speaker 2>just punching the clock anymore and just kind of getting by.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you love what you do, You're better at You're

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<v Speaker 1>just better at it. You get what I'm saying, You're

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<v Speaker 1>just better at it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that you know that RESET really helped

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<v Speaker 2>me I got away from I wasn't kicking it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at industry places no more. I wasn't kicking it with

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<v Speaker 2>artists nomore. I was just with the homies, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. And then when I was in the studio,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just with my engineer, Kaitel, and we was

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<v Speaker 2>just like throwing shit at the wall. Don't We're not

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<v Speaker 2>looking for a single. We're not looking for We're just

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<v Speaker 2>looking to just like get shit off, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. And so wrote out all of my feelings,

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<v Speaker 2>the feelings that I can't, you know, necessarily talk about

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<v Speaker 2>about everything that happened, just to get those out, and

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<v Speaker 2>then started falling back in love with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so yeah, yeah, I mean that's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you kind of mentioned in passing. Obviously, you and Cosben,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys had my favorite song on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>Dreamville project. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>the fans have been waiting to see what's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 1>with this, Yeah, year, long time. The theory of an

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<v Speaker 1>album between you two, Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent coming. It's probably a lot easier to make

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<v Speaker 1>happen now, to be quite yeah, yeah, and Coz has

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<v Speaker 1>some label situations, not with Dreamville but with Interscope if

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say that cause I'm sorry, but he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>figured that out now too.

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<v Speaker 2>So now it's like super easy, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, same thing with us Bro. We had like

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<v Speaker 2>forty five records, and because every time we would lock

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<v Speaker 2>in for like three months and do some records, then

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<v Speaker 2>we would.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit a wall, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it was on my end, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I know with TD, I'm probably only gonna drop once

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<v Speaker 2>every two to three years. Do I want to waste

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<v Speaker 2>my drop with cause, like you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was always a thing like that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>with Kas, same thing, you know, with him, not the length,

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<v Speaker 2>but just like him being like okay time and wise

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<v Speaker 2>does it make sense? But now with me independent with

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<v Speaker 2>him like basically independent, it's super easy. Like the track

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<v Speaker 2>list is basically locked in. We're just finishing up a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of loose strings kind of like concept. No, actually

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny because we actually like it sounds a lot

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<v Speaker 2>different than I think people are gonna like assume it

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<v Speaker 2>a sound.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's super fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of raps of course, but we got

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of records that like, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>very very much LA. And I think that's different because

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<v Speaker 2>me and Cos both don't necessarily sarirely have like the

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<v Speaker 2>typical LA sound, right, Yeah, but it sounds very LA

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's a fun album. We had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun making this ship over the years, for real,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we got some of my favorite records I've even

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<v Speaker 2>ever made period on this album.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you put Ransom and Coyote on a song together,

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<v Speaker 1>which is so awesome and random and random is Ransom

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<v Speaker 1>is like one of the most prolific independent rappers bro ever,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this guy is a fucking beast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, shout out my Doug Ransom mixtape.

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<v Speaker 1>Legend, Independent Legend, and the Coyote obviously on the new

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<v Speaker 1>side of the La Ship. They're going crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I gotta, I gotta my schedule being crazy. We're

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<v Speaker 2>shooting a video for it. But I also got to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they go crazy with the content. I need

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<v Speaker 2>to catch up with them and they go crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the best videos in the game. Crazy independent bro.

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<v Speaker 2>They be having mariachi bands behind them in the Instagram videos,

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<v Speaker 2>like full blown and these are like real Mexicans, Like

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<v Speaker 2>these are real Mexicans with the hats playing it Like

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<v Speaker 2>that ship is crazy to me, bro, Like they.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not play with the content is something like because

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<v Speaker 1>I because I knew them when they were signed with

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<v Speaker 1>Whack Yep, and they've kind of gotten into this like

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<v Speaker 1>funk where they couldn't release when they were kind of similar, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so then they just started dropping it on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I just saw the flips and yeah, all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Yeah, and then everything they do is on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. Yeah. Yeah, bro, that ship is crazy. But

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<v Speaker 1>people would think that they have like a content, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like Guapo and and they're just they

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<v Speaker 1>they do their own ship. They just do their own cut. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they're they're super They're super inspiring to me because

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<v Speaker 2>they like so everything about me and Coyote's relationship is random.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I met them in the barbershop and didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know they do me at first, and then well the

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying, Like, yeah, so they cut next

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<v Speaker 2>to my barber at the time, and then like.

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<v Speaker 1>Something ended up coming up in conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, y'all do music and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>send me some shit, and then they were hard and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like all right, bet, And then i started following

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<v Speaker 2>them on the Gram and I'm seeing the video. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>all these niggas is like crazy. So I met him

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<v Speaker 2>like when they were still signed the Whack but started

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<v Speaker 2>doing the videos and so I'm like, okay, they actually fired.

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<v Speaker 2>So we did that record a while ago, but we

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<v Speaker 2>did it before Porches actually, so yeah, definitely a while ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was gonna put it on Porches but ended

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<v Speaker 2>up holding back off of it, and then they were

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<v Speaker 2>about to put it out and I told them that

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<v Speaker 2>they could, but then we talked about doing this project,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was like hold on. So yeah, it ended

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<v Speaker 2>up working out. And then Ransom I actually met him

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<v Speaker 2>through my engineer, and I just I wanted another rapper

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<v Speaker 2>on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt like a posse cut and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it worked though, and they versus they smoked it.

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<v Speaker 1>They smoked it. Yeah. Are you already kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>like honed in on your album, like in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>like is it like kind of coming together?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So like so so it's funny, like I know

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's calling this one album, but it's really a mixtape,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean like not like everybody says, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>dropping a mixtape and then it's like an album. Like

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<v Speaker 2>when you hear it, it's like a mixtape. You can

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<v Speaker 2>hear you hear me talking to the fans. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>a thank you to the fans. And it's probably something

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do continuously between albums. So it's really kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a life update, kind of like Little Wayne

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<v Speaker 2>did with the dedications when he was stopping. Just talks

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But album wise, yeah, I'm probably like sixty

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<v Speaker 2>percent done. I'm kind of like in feature mode, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what features I want, figuring out like Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what do we want the singles to be. I already

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<v Speaker 2>have a concept and so yeah, I'm probably like sixty

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five percent done, but that won't come out till

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be the last project this year, so that'd be

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<v Speaker 2>like my first independent like solo album, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean since the split stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Yeah, yeah, how have the fans been because there

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<v Speaker 1>are a certain amount of fans who are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just like cult members with TD for sure, with your

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<v Speaker 1>benefit from yeah, of course, of course, right away. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm sure there's also a portion of those fans

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<v Speaker 1>who might back up off you once you leave the label.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that something or have the fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Solid Honestly, the fans have been The fans have been

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<v Speaker 2>like consistent all the way throughout, like the fans that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't because you know, there's TV there's a wide number

0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.840
<v Speaker 2>of TD fans, and there's TD fans that they don't

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<v Speaker 2>like any artists besides the Big Four, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, and then there's artists that you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>only fans that they only, like I said, were shot

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. So the only the fans that didn't like

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<v Speaker 2>me before they were consistent, and they still don't like me,

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<v Speaker 2>because when you saw with TD, there's gonna be TD

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<v Speaker 2>fans that don't fuck with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fans have been pretty The only fans I

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<v Speaker 2>really lost were fans that I shot myself in the

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<v Speaker 2>foot in But I had to do that to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of the the label deal. When the when the

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<v Speaker 2>Dot and the Drake beef started, I felt like topping

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<v Speaker 2>them were kind of like dragging their feet a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think purposely.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think they had a lot of shit going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and I knew that if I kind of like sparked

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<v Speaker 2>a fire a little bit, that they'd be like, we

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<v Speaker 2>got to separate from this. So I kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>started tweeting shit on the side of Drake purposely because

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<v Speaker 2>I saw how how yeah, so there's fans that hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Me for that? And wait, wait, what was the main

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<v Speaker 1>the main tweet that fans hated you for they hated

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<v Speaker 1>me when I remember that was just like you just

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, this is crazy. But I was purposely doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was talking to my boy LTA and he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, bro, you got to turn it up if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get out of here in this year,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is gonna drag, Like I know how because

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<v Speaker 2>he's the lawyer. He does contracts, Like I know how

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<v Speaker 2>this ship works, Bro, it should have take two and

0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.720
<v Speaker 2>a half years unless you turn it up. So I tweeted, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was right after Push Ups Drop. I tweeted like

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<v Speaker 2>y'all hating this beat switch up his fire and then

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<v Speaker 2>I like let it sit for like ten minutes and

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<v Speaker 2>deleted it. It went crazy and then you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, And I still had the reason TD So

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like insane, right, look like super crazy. So

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<v Speaker 2>I tweeted that and then I also I had a

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<v Speaker 2>rap radar that I did, I mean, not a rap radar,

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<v Speaker 2>the grain room.

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I on the radar?

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<v Speaker 2>On the radar, Yeah, on the radar that I did

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<v Speaker 2>over a drake beat. But this was before the beef

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<v Speaker 2>even started.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So they hit me.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, yo, we was about to drop it, but

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to, you know, damage your situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Run that, run it, run it. Let's do it like

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<v Speaker 1>run it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that I had like five million views on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like mixed reviews, like some people like

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<v Speaker 2>this think of gas and this shit fired, don't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Then other people like, what the fuck are you wrapping up?

0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Because you know, fans think you recorded it today, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So if it dropped today, you

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<v Speaker 1>recorded it today. And so we did that and then

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<v Speaker 1>that went viral and kind of ran it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just knew it was sensitive times, and I knew business

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<v Speaker 1>wise it would make the most sense for them to

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<v Speaker 1>separate from me at that point, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And that shit worked like a month later. A month later,

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<v Speaker 2>I was expeditiously.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fast. It was fast.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a month later it was like yo,

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<v Speaker 2>we yeah, it's done. So paperwork was in my email.

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<v Speaker 4>You.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like when like not to take it back

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<v Speaker 1>too far, but yeah, were you purposely when you had

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<v Speaker 1>the issue like the whole back on fake situation with

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<v Speaker 1>Musa and obviously when viral and was crazy, was that

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<v Speaker 1>also on purpose? No, that's just like you just like

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<v Speaker 1>that was like to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the accountability I take, and I know that

0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.920
<v Speaker 2>nobody else in that situation takes accountability, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But the accountability I take is that I never watched

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<v Speaker 2>anything in that podcast world, so I wasn't familiar with

0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.680
<v Speaker 2>how they do things. I just knew, like I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know even though Mackwap was gonna be there, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was doing a podcast with a D and Trail.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hit a D in his DMS and he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, bet, let's do it Monday, And then I

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<v Speaker 2>text AD. He didn't answer, so I just hit up

0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:24.720
<v Speaker 2>t Reil. I didn't really know Troll like that, but

0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I assumed that they were doing it together. So I

0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.000
<v Speaker 2>hit up Trail and Treel was like, bet, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>you good for Monday, come Monday, not knowing that there's

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<v Speaker 2>two different ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So when Mackwap walked in the room, I just thought

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<v Speaker 2>he was pulling up to kick it. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>he sat down, I'm like, oh shit, like AD's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not gonna be here. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, And then I was drinking Herodora and then

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<v Speaker 2>like then, So for me, it wasn't on purpose, but

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that it was a safe space because Trel's

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<v Speaker 2>CU's best friend, Mackwap is qs DJ. I'm thinking, we're

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<v Speaker 2>in a TD space and we're never gonna like the

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<v Speaker 2>last place we're going to get into this type of

0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.919
<v Speaker 2>situation is a is a TDE podcast. Like if anything,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be protected. You get what I'm saying. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>so usually when I do interviews and sit down, so

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<v Speaker 2>when now, I'm very aware of what's going on, and

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<v Speaker 2>so that's the accountability I take.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wasn't aware.

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<v Speaker 2>And they started off the pod with like, why are

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<v Speaker 2>you dropping out of nowhere? You ain't had no promotion,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I already been drinking, and so it just

0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:16.960
<v Speaker 2>it kind of you know what I mean, like it

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<v Speaker 2>just spiraled or whatever, and Yeah, I just.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wasn't. I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have my intentas up you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't read the wrong you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Good enough, and then it spiral. But it was a

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<v Speaker 2>tough situation to get to get through. But I tell

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<v Speaker 2>people all the time that was the biggest blessing because

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have I don't think I would have gotten

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<v Speaker 2>out of my contract without that going so public.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. That was crazy? Yeah, it was insane.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I had moosho. I was like, oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, it went left.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing is, mind you, I'm intoxicated the

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<v Speaker 2>entire show, So you got to like put yourself in

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<v Speaker 2>my shoes. But I've taken like eight Like I could drink,

0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:52.639
<v Speaker 2>but I've taken like eight shots at this time. You

0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.120
<v Speaker 2>get what I'm saying. So when it all goes left,

0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.359
<v Speaker 2>like I'm not the only thing I knew how to

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<v Speaker 2>handle it. The best way is to just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like shut up, you know what I mean, Like as

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<v Speaker 2>much as I could, you know, I went back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth with them a little bit, but I didn't want

0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.280
<v Speaker 2>to crash out because the way I would have crashed

0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.680
<v Speaker 2>out off a liquor would have been like way worse,

0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:10.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting because that that uh I guess like

0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.600
<v Speaker 1>with the streaming dynamic, it's all live.

0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you can't even fix it. It ain't even

0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.080
<v Speaker 2>like you can like, yo, hey man, that's not right,

0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.359
<v Speaker 2>that's not yeah, let's let's just skip to you know

0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.280
<v Speaker 2>that forty minutes. That's just not It was live, and

0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.800
<v Speaker 2>so I'm there, I'm seeing the chat go like it's

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<v Speaker 2>it was a lot, you know what I mean, it

0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.159
<v Speaker 2>was it was going crazy, but uh but.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't as like, to be honest with you, the

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<v Speaker 2>part that that moment didn't like I didn't even leave

0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:40.920
<v Speaker 2>the place like super mad or nothing like that. The

0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:45.520
<v Speaker 2>part that bothered me the most was just like afterwards,

0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:47.240
<v Speaker 2>like you just kind of like what we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about about the relationship, Like you you're in a label

0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:52.600
<v Speaker 2>that you feel like his family, and then when something

0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:57.160
<v Speaker 2>like that happens and you don't see the family dynamic

0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:58.639
<v Speaker 2>of it and you see yourself just kind of get

0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.680
<v Speaker 2>put on an island. I'm like, oh, this is just business.

0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:03.879
<v Speaker 2>So at that point I'm just like I bet that

0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily need to like basketball.

0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:07.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like, what you get traded, You're like, oh, bro,

0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the exact way, and you just like, oh, damn.

0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Like y'all, y'all like the nigga better than than me

0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that traded for me. You know, when Luca got traded,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like like a d like damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've been grabbing boards every night, like you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. And so it's kind of like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And so to get put

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<v Speaker 2>on the island and it not be I'm used to

0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 2>family being like, you know, if two people in the

0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.720
<v Speaker 2>family fight, we keep it in the house. But like

0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 2>y'all just even if y'all got to catch a fade,

0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.639
<v Speaker 2>y'all just faded out and then we're good for it

0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.960
<v Speaker 2>to be like the way that it was. And I

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<v Speaker 2>still got love for everybody over there. I just I

0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.280
<v Speaker 2>just realized it was just an eye open experience. I'm like, oh,

0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.359
<v Speaker 2>it's just business, and if it's business, then I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>do what makes the most sense business for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of like the most like it was

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<v Speaker 1>like because TV's like the least messy label for publicly. Sure, Yeah,

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and to just kind of have the curtain Like yeah,

0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh this is not I'm sure. I'm sure

0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Top was not very happy. Yeah happy, He wasn't happy.

0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:03.880
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't happy with me. I can't imagine he wasn't

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:04.600
<v Speaker 1>happy with either.

0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.560
<v Speaker 2>No, he wasn't He wasn't happy with Yeah, Top, top is.

0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Top is very is very fair, you know what I mean.

0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.240
<v Speaker 2>So he wasn't happy with either one of us. And

0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, top is is very much like like you said,

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.480
<v Speaker 2>like keep everything in house, you know what I mean?

0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly. It's literally that we didn't know.

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.879
<v Speaker 2>We didn't know time Brady and Bill had anything until

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<v Speaker 2>it was over, you get what I'm saying, Like we

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.560
<v Speaker 2>had no idea, And that's very much how how Top is.

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:29.720
<v Speaker 2>And honestly, that was what I felt the most bad

0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:34.080
<v Speaker 2>for is Like regardless of where me and tops relationship

0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.520
<v Speaker 2>is now, Like I love Top and I appreciate everything

0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 2>that Top did for me. Like this is a nigga

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.640
<v Speaker 2>that when I was broke, would just give me money

0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:42.360
<v Speaker 2>just to keep the lights on, you know what I mean.

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:46.879
<v Speaker 2>So there's no there's almost nothing outside of like you know,

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:49.919
<v Speaker 2>saying something about a family member of mind that Top

0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:51.120
<v Speaker 2>could do for me to ever.

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think just at this point, like I think

0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:55.320
<v Speaker 1>he's it's pretty much like.

0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.760
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's like it's it's yeah, he's in the rafters.

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.199
<v Speaker 1>But I think I think just you you be. I mean,

0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:02.880
<v Speaker 1>when we think about TD you now at this point,

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:06.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, me and a problem had a

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:11.080
<v Speaker 1>back and forth about a year ago in which I

0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 1>was arguing that death Row because we were talking about

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.720
<v Speaker 1>death Brow. Yeah, and I was on the death Row side.

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:21.200
<v Speaker 1>But I think I'm on the TV side. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.719
<v Speaker 1>because when we think about just like because death Row

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<v Speaker 1>was like a flash in the pan, right, it was

0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like like a four year period for real, for real,

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 1>like five years tops. But like the TD run is

0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a whole nine you know, with Jay Rock signed

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:39.240
<v Speaker 1>with Warnerton now it's like yeah, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just think about just like the biggest pop star,

0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean and then Kendrick.

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 2>They have the biggest pop star, they have the biggest rapper,

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:49.080
<v Speaker 2>and then the biggest up and coming artists all on

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<v Speaker 2>the same label.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. It's crazy, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think top is I mean, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>and I could be wrong, but I got them at

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<v Speaker 2>either one or two of Label of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's number one man. Yeah, yeah, no,

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't I don't think that you could really

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:07.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of argue with because I've never seen Like I said,

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 2>we obviously don't know anything about behind the scenes and

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.280
<v Speaker 2>nothing like that. But but you know, for the most part,

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 2>you could kind of point to any Label executive and

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 2>be like they did some goofy shit.

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, think about Russell Simmons. Don't

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 1>think too much about him, because then you might then

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you're you know, then you like damn or like or

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 1>even like Sugar or whoever the fuck you could go

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 1>through it even like you know, you know, the dudes

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>from QC have some you know, uh, the one guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But but Top I feel like, fuck man, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, I just and then just like

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing about Top I appreciate is he signs

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 1>reason he signs, sir, he signs like, he signs, he builds.

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to have the following. Like He's confident

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 2>enough that to me, that's what separates him is that

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 2>a he has a better musical ear than people give

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.920
<v Speaker 2>him credit for. Like I always tell people everything top

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 2>ever told me to do musically worked, and everything that

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 2>he told me to do that I didn't do, I

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 2>ended up wishing I did it, you know what I mean?

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 2>And I mean like down to specific songs, taking lines out,

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 2>switching beats, like oh, you know, switching flows every single

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Actually there's one song I wish I didn't listen to him,

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 2>but that's like minor. But yeah, every ding, like his

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.199
<v Speaker 2>musical ear is like crazy, you know what I mean.

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 2>And so that putting an album together, like understanding when

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 2>the album you know, like what fits where, Like he's

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.120
<v Speaker 2>super fire at that. And then like you just said,

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>like the confidence to be like as long as the

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>artist is dope, yeah, nobody, nobody, Yeah, nobody, nobody. Nobody's

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 2>bolded enough to do it that way. Artists developments, Yeah,

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 2>so nobody's nobody's bold enough to do it that way.

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.120
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what like completely separates.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a lot of people don't understand like

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the the like Long Trip to Scissors, Control was likesics

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Control came out in twenty seventeen, but like there was

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>this huge like thing about her not dropping music and

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and look now and you know they're doing stadiums. It's crazy. Well,

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>we got to talk about the beef since you brought it? Yeah,

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>worst el than Jah rup? Is it a bigger is

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 1>it a bigger el than jar rule?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think it's too early to say because

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Joah's career, I hate even saying this on camera, became

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>a verb. Yeah, and people said he became a verb

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 2>and his career was essentially just over, you know what

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean. And so I think it's too early to

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 2>call it because we don't know if Drake's career is over.

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that if Drake's career is over, which I don't,

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think will happen. To be honest, I think

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 2>he's too big. I think he's too big. That's what

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say.

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>So I think I don't. I think, no matter what,

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Drake will have a place exactly a certain level of success,

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly. But I think I think it's an example

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>of like when the people choose like. For me, I

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>personally hate the beef, and I only hate the beef

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 1>because to me, this had a potential to be like

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<v Speaker 1>the most like entertaining beef from like a rap perspective,

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>like I thought the black thick it was, see, I

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>don't view with it once once it got too messy

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>for me. It was like it was it was hard

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>for me to like which which it was, which rap

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 1>beefs are messy, not messy like that though, like when

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 1>we start talking about like hitting your significant other and

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>pedophe Like to me, it crossed the line where I feel,

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel nasty, you know what I mean, Like the

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Nas and jay Z bef got extremely nasty, not pediphid,

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>dirty cond on NAS's child's baby.

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but fucking your bitch is always going to be

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 2>in rap, Like that's like a thing that's gone, that's

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 2>been in rap since the history, you know what I mean,

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>since the beginning of the time. Like to me, that's

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 2>not that crazy. And I don't even mean on doc

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean on both ends, like well, listen.

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>On your forury. He kind of told him, like no,

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>for sure, for sure like at the end of it,

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 1>don't find out.

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Exactly at the end of the day, like you know,

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 2>everything that happened happened for a reason, no pun intended.

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 2>But if I just I wanted to see them like

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<v Speaker 2>like from a pen standpoint, I wanted to see them

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 2>go back and forth like more. And I feel like

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>it got so messy that it was like neither side

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 2>can like go anywhere else, never.

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Any coming back from it. And that's what I'm trying

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to say, is like like there's never gonna be a

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>point in time where where they they cool, and like

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to see them and then be like, yo,

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>there won't.

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Record, yeah exactly, and so that's never gonna happen. And

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 2>so that's the only part about it that I would

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.679
<v Speaker 2>if I could like be the constructor of how it happened,

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I would want that just because I'm a fan of both,

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And I think that now

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 2>we're at a point where and we're at a point

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 2>just in the industry where like everybody it just feel nasty.

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Everybody has to choose a side.

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 2>And when we're when we're in that space, to me,

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:50.680
<v Speaker 2>we're not like allowing like honesty and authenticity to be

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 2>to live.

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Like you can't.

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 2>You can't be in a space of choosing size and

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 2>have honesty in it. You can't be in a space

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 2>of choosing size and have authenticity in it because you

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 2>have to just stand where you're at, like you know

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, and we look at it like Mal's

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 2>my guy, but he's all the way on this end.

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>It's fucking ridiculous.

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:07.959
<v Speaker 2>Malls wildless. And then Joe's my guy, but he's all

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 2>the way on this end. It's ridiculous, you know what

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean. And so there there is no space to

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 2>be completely you know what I mean, unbiased and authentic.

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you just followed me on Twitter,

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 2>you would think I was the West Coast mall. But

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 2>for Kendrick, you've been going craze so much. The funnest

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 2>thing in.

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>The world on Twitter for me to do right now

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>is to just throw some red meat to the ov hose.

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I just throw I just I just I just bait them. Yeah,

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll throw a tweet out there and I'll just let

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>it go. You just watch it. Just it just it

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 1>just takes on a life of his own. It's like

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>these are real people, yeah, bro like and like these

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Drake fans, they're like their entire profiles dedicated to this day.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>And then they're gonna tweet me about not getting pussy

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>like you, I don't even know what you look like it's.

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Crazy, bro, And then do you so do you know

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 2>anybody in real life that's like that?

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>No? So, No, Actually I have a friend about to

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>say I who has an Ovo tattoo and he'll and

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I've been making fun of him for ten years. Yeah

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. But now it was like, yeah, after DJ

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Yours truly, I'm like, bro, you got a fucking Ovo

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>owl on your shoulder. Fuck. But no, but there's people

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>with the song about say so.

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know a lot of people like that, but

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 2>when you meet it when you when you were when

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>you are cool with somebody, and then it's like that,

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>it's like yo, bro, like it's just us here, like

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>we can talk like like you know what I'm saying,

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Like we can have a conversation, you know what I mean. Like,

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>and that's on both sides, Like I know a couple

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>of people that's like that on drake'son and I know

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>you know of course, because I'm you know, I was

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>with TD. I know a lot of people like that

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>on on Dots and and it just makes like barbershop

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>talk not as fun no more.

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, I mean I think if you're like if

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like you're either mal or your me. Yeah. I mean, like,

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this about Drake, like obviously, Drake's one of

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the greatest rabbers of all time, for sure, biggest hit

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>maker ever for sure without adult uh. I think that

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I've always been pretty critical Drake for sure over the

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>years that I've always there was always something holding me

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>back from like me putting him above like a few guys.

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, this Battle just kind of reconfirmed

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>all those feelings I had.

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's why a lot of people

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 2>chose the side that they chose, is because people have

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>been having a certain perception or feeling about somebody and

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>then it's like, like you said, like the Battle highlighted

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>those things and so people felt I think that they

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 2>felt their emotions seen. And the biggest thing I think

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 2>that the biggest takeaway that I tell artists with the

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Battle is Jaco just releases his podcast series and he

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>he had he had a line from Dilated People that

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>he said he kind of lived his career by which

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>is worse come to worse my people first. And I

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 2>think that great record the Alchemists exactly, and I love

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.959
<v Speaker 2>like I got relationships on on Drake's camp side as

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 2>far as like production, different things like that. But the

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>one thing that I do feel like as an artist

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 2>you could take from that situation is I think Drake

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>over the years could have done a better job taking

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 2>care of his people. Because to me, the difference in

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 2>the battle Dot one regardless. So even even to me

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 2>music wise, I think Dot put out the better records.

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 2>But I think the reason why it got as bad

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 2>as it got is because I think over the years

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>of just being such a big artist, I think Drake

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 2>did not take care of his core. So Drake might

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 2>have the bigger fan base like overall, but Dot has

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 2>the bigger core. And when you are in beefs, your

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 2>core is gonna be the one that's gonna like ride

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 2>and ignite the fire. And let's say Drake has ten

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 2>million fans and not only has five. Well, Dot has

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 2>four point five million core fans, and Drake might have

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 2>only had like one.

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's almost like there's Drake fans that are Drake

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>fans just passively, That's what I mean. And it's like,

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's almost like if you are a Drake fan,

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you might not necessarily you know, most Death got some

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>hell because he said that Drake made great music to

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>shop at Target to Yeah, he was out of his mind.

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>It was hilarious. But like, but that's kind of like

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>true because there's a lot of people who might just

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>be shopping at Target. I got what comes on and

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, I unders still but they but that

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>might be the only hip hop artist they listen to, right,

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, you have all these Kendrick fans

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>who have been like anointing him to be like, oh,

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>because he for for better or worse, like Kendrick is.

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>He's been you know, in my opinion, he's been top

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>five for the last like seven eight years. But somehow

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.719
<v Speaker 1>he's also kind of underground for someone who's doing arena

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you have the underground feel, yeah, for someone who's still

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>doing arenas and doing the Black Panther soundtrack and winning

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>all these Grammys and shit. But he's he's his art first.

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 2>He's found a way to keep his feel underground first.

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's like if he does an entire album like

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Missing around the Big Steppers and it's about like therapy

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and like looking in the mirror in like this crazy way,

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and like most people don't get it, but the fans

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>who do get it are like, y'all know crazy this

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>shiite and this battle the way all these like like

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>YouTubers and TikTokers broke down every single little thing. Everybody

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, this guy is surgical, and it's like, well,

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>he's always been he's always been away. Now it's just

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you're just seeing him surgically like pick another human being.

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 2>A part and like even and and the fans are

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 2>having a reason to like spread it even more, you

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, because because of the stage that

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 2>it's on.

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, now it's like he's the I mean, this is

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the I think this is the biggest run we've ever

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>seen an artist go on. He's got a hundred million

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>listeners on Spotify, which I mean before he two weeks

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>in a row. Last week he was the first rapper

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to ever get ninety million listeners in a month. This

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>week is the first rapper to get a hundred million

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>listeners in a month. And then you know Drake, And

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>this is the thing about Drake is like Drake's just

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, alien level talented, right, But then he puts

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>out this party next Door album and it's a it

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>sounds like AI there's just no feeling in it. It's

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I don't know. There's a couple of songs

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>give me a hug. I like, like, I like, I

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>like to know kill record, I like, give me a hug.

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I like a spider Man a Superman. I personally liked

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the album because I know I knew coming out, like

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have felt like a bunch of throwaways from

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:13.280
<v Speaker 1>like twenty thirteen.

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 2>That that's I mean, I don't I don't necessarily like agree,

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 2>but I can understand why you're saying that, if you

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. But I like it because I

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 2>knew what it was for, Like I knew before it

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 2>came out. I put it in the box of like

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the Honesty never Mind, which I actually thought was no.

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I like honestly never Mind.

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought it was fire too, That's what I'm saying, Like,

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 2>so I put it in that box, and so I

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't come into the I didn't come into listening to it.

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the worst Drakeout ever because I think honestly,

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>never Mind's better, and you think I think it's the

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>worst Drakeout member. And I think that's a problem when

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you're Drake and you're like, yo, if you're gonna come

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>out with the slow jams on Valentine's Day, dog, you're

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>capable of making Marvin's room full, Like not, what have

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.919
<v Speaker 1>you been doing the last eight months? Crying? I feel

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that like you should be you. I was expecting, like, oh,

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Drake's coming with like the hardest R and B shit

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>we've heard from him ever, because this is this is

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>his first release for real since See.

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 2>But do you feel like that is affecting the way

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 2>that you see the album though, because I didn't view

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 2>it and will do it twice, like I didn't view

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 2>it like this is going to be the hardest RB

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 2>you get.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm staring on with my wife in the car, and

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>three songs in, she was like, this is new Drake.

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>This sucks Jesus Christ. And I was like night with

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>even dinner. I'm like, oh, the new Drake came out.

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.919
<v Speaker 1>I was throwing on. She's like this is new. I'm like, yeah,

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>like my thoughts terrible, See and ship that's all the

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>other ship is. I tried, No, I give you listen

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>thing I want you.

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I give you credit for putting it on because that's

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 2>like kind of like against you know what.

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean you've been. It's weird because I actually like, uh,

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:50.919
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy a lot of Drake music over the years.

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I was, of course, I just you know, for me,

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I don't know, man, it's just man, I

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>just feel dirty putting it on now. It's weird, even

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>though I love dude, like, nothing was the same as

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 1>a fucking and I always I always say this because

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.399
<v Speaker 1>people will get on my head because I say Drake

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a consensus hip hop classic. And what I

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>mean by that is, if you put like a hundred

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>of like the top hip hop heads journalists in a room,

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>if you ain't getting ninety five percent of them, motherfuckers

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to say that's a classic, it's not a classic like

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>a good Kid, Mad City or Dogy Style. Now. To me,

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Drake's got like three classics to me. To me, I

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 1>got a me at four class I think the first mix, well,

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>not the first mixtape, the.

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Well we count that I got him at five. If

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 2>we count so far gone.

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>So far gone, I got so far gone, I got

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>take Care and nothing was the same. I know a

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of people like the if you're reading this, it's

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>too late, that's a classic. To me, I just can't

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>get over the fact that I heard the fucking references.

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 1>I can respect that one hundred percent. Yeah, I can

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>respect one hundred percent. But those are those are to

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>me the three that I'm like, Yo, Drake's so I'm like,

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm listen, I'm a hater, but uh, if I'm being honest,

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>like I love all three of those out. Yeah, Yeah,

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>for me, so Far Gone.

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Made me like, I think so that's about saying I

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 2>think so far Gone is the consensus classic that you

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 2>were talking about. I don't see you getting in the

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 2>room with hip hop has and them saying so far

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 2>gone is not a classic point. But for me, I

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 2>got so far gone to take care nothing was the

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 2>same I do have. If you're reading this, it's too late,

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 2>and I got the future joint what It's time to

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 2>be alive? For me, how I judge classics is different though.

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I judge it where if you can just put it

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 2>on and let it play and not have to press skip,

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 2>And that doesn't mean that there's no song you don't like.

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 2>It just means that you never get to a point

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>to where you feel obbly.

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what It's time to be alive? Had that was

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 1>crazy it was actually and so I judge it off

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of that.

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I judge it off for impact, which is why I

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>always say now like there's no such thing as like

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be no new artists that can put out

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 2>classics anymore because of impact, because there's it's the game

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>is so convoluted that unless you're like a huge, huge

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 2>artist or about to be huge, I think it's really

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 2>hard to put out an impact Like I think, don't

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.720
<v Speaker 2>she put out I think, don't she put out a classic?

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 2>But I'm saying like, you have to have that level

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 2>of impact. So if you're you know, an artist that

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 2>just can't make an impact in that way, it doesn't

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 2>matter how good the music is, it's gonna be.

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think it's hard, man, because at the end

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of the day, like you said, there's just so much,

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:17.959
<v Speaker 1>just so much shit. And it's not even just music.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 2>It's you know, it's it's almost like movies, it's podcast

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.280
<v Speaker 2>it's it's everything, you know what I mean. Like Shannon

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Sharp was having sex on the internet that lasted for

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.359
<v Speaker 2>two days, Like when when it wasn't so much shit

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 2>going on, we would have been talking about that for weeks.

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>You talked about that for maybe thirty six hours. We're

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>in this like a weird media space where the streamers,

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a kid like Aiden Ross, like people

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.879
<v Speaker 1>like his opinion on hip hop, people reachmatter matter, He's

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 1>not to know anything about hip hop.

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I love Kay Sannatt to death. I think everything kys

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Sanata is doing is fucking phenomenal. But even the fact

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>he's obviously not a hip hop head. That's what I

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 2>was gonna say, obvious, the fact that you have people

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 2>dropping hip hop albums and feel like they are obligated

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 2>to stop at Kay sannat spot which and he's dope,

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Kyle, I love Speed. I think I

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 2>think the one is is fucking phenomenal in there. I

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 2>think their visionaries, especially to be so young. But like

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 2>you said, it's I and he don't even try to

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 2>act like he's a hip hop He no. And that's

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons I love Kay is because Kay's

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 2>and I don't try to be nothing that he's not.

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 2>He don't give he don't give a fuck like they're

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 2>killing them right now because of what he said about Die,

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 2>But he genuinely don't give a fuck, And that's what

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I love about him. He's just authentically Kai all the time.

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>But I say this to say, you got you know

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.800
<v Speaker 2>people that are thirty three, thirty four feeling like obligated

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 2>that they got to stop there and spend a night

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 2>to get their album to sell. You get what I'm saying,

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>like for real, Like and it's like to me, that's

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 2>the part of the game that like, I just I

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>just hate that we're at now, is that nobody's doing anything,

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Like nobody's doing shit because they love it anymore. Everybody's

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 2>treating it like a fucking job. And that's what I hate.

0:39:55.280 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Like you don't see big rappers sitting down with keVs

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 2>or Charlemagne's or whoever. That like people that actually love rapping.

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 2>They're just going to wherever they think makes sense for

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 2>that album.

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>That's all. Like a lot of artists now, if they're

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>a certain level, they're just gonna go do kaisonat that's it.

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>That's it, bro. Like Nicki Minaj, the only piece of

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>media she did, she went and spent the night with

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Kayson And it's like, bro, like like I don't love

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you spend the night.

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she spend the night, but like with

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 2>like I love Nikki to dead.

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>But with all due respect, why the fuck is Nicki

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Minaj spending like or it's like popular, No, no, it's

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 1>like it's okay to do that, but it's like also

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.720
<v Speaker 1>do jothing where we just have a music conversation about

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like I don't.

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Know, just but see, I'm gonna take it a step further.

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's I don't think that she should

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 2>do that. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>think she should do that because Nikki. To me, I

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.399
<v Speaker 2>have Nikki as the best and biggest female rapper ever.

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 2>It's not even a debate.

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 2>So you are big enough to where like whatever the

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>fuck you do is it? And that is one thing

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 2>that I do I have always like liked about Drake

0:40:58.280 --> 0:40:59.800
<v Speaker 2>is that, like, like Drake did on the radar, on

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 2>the I became a spot.

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Like to me, it's like when you're in that spot,

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>like do groundbreaking ship because you are the wave.

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Like. But then the other thing dra will do is

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>he'll he'll, he'll, he won't go do it because this

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that as much as I don't agree

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 1>with academics. And you know, academics has invited me to

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 1>suck his dick on his stream. Wild guy. Uh. We

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>we got on the phone though, We're fine, but I'm like, yo, Drake,

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.439
<v Speaker 1>go do academic ship. Why are you doing these random

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 1>little Canadian white dudes and the gambling on stream like

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>this is no? I agree with he as fuck I

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I and I and I agree. I feel like that's

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>what I may know is like to me, go do

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Moriam mall Bro go do Rory and.

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 4>It no.

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 2>But that's what I mean is like that's fire. Like

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was dope that Dot just sat down

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 2>with Ebro Like to me, it's like that was a

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 2>part of.

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>The super Bowl and it was one of super Bowl.

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, don't sit with.

0:41:57.840 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Is that like bro like to me? Like, and so

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying, Like, this is not like a biasing.

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 2>This is not like a pick sized thing. To me,

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 2>hip hop is in the space that is in because

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 2>people pick features off of clicks and what's gonna benefit them.

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 2>They pick interview, they pick everything based off of what

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:18.399
<v Speaker 2>makes sense for the algorithm and not what makes sense

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 2>for the culture. And that's why the culture keeps dying,

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Like regardless of where this beef is. It's like hip

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.839
<v Speaker 2>hop is not in the best space that it's it's

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 2>not in the best space because people do that. So

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 2>like you'll get a big artist that it might make

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>sense for them to work with a boogie, but Boogie's

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe not hot enough, so they go work with a

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 2>nigga that they don't even know his catalog, but somebody

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 2>told him, like, yo, go look at this artist. He

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 2>going crazy, and so they go work with him instead

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:45.919
<v Speaker 2>of doing that when it's like you're not at that point,

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.839
<v Speaker 2>you're not feeding the ecosystem. We don't feed the ecosystem enough.

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Like we need to keep our media that is in

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 2>the world that we love, that really cares about this world.

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 2>We need to keep them as the hottest media.

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 1>How do you do that? Pull up? You get what

0:42:58.680 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:02.479
<v Speaker 2>If Nikki pulls up you know to I don't fucking

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:03.959
<v Speaker 2>know name whoever is a person?

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>And that I was about Q. Yeah, Q going and

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>doing background FIG was dope to me.

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 2>That was fire Like that was fire, bro Like, like

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 2>go do back on FIG because that is like the

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 2>people that fuck with you know what I mean?

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Like, what what you represent?

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 2>That's the ecosystem you should be feeding and like when

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.240
<v Speaker 2>you're a bigger like, I understand it for up andcoming

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:22.319
<v Speaker 2>artists because you just trying to.

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Get whatever like you can get.

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 2>But if you are like Nikki, you Nikki, you can

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>go sit down with a nigga that we ain't never

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>heard of before and they're gonna be the biggest thing

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 2>because you're gonna bring a bunch of abauty.

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>The other thing too, though, is a lot of artists

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 1>now like they just go straight to fans. They'd rather

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 1>just go on Instagram live. Like, for sure, Cardi B

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>be fucked up on Instagram line titty out, for sure.

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I've seen Cardi B's aeral on and meat a lot lately.

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's like anything you need to know about

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.240
<v Speaker 1>her and her fucking just go straight to the fils

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 1>bro for better everything that's happening with her and offset. Yeah,

0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a fact. But of course you could go

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 1>sit down in an interview and they ask, so what's

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>going on with you? Went off? Just go watch my

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>drunk live from three nights ago? Do you know exactly

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck happened? But we had sex six hours

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>ago and now I hate them, but I also fuck

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>with that because that's feet that's feeding her ecosystem. For sure,

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that's that's what I mean. Yeah, And then

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the other on the other side, it's like, unfortunately, with

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the streaming and like some of this ship like artists

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 1>have also adopted what they call in the streaming world

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:31.879
<v Speaker 1>clip farming, like the clip farming uh model where you're

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>just like, Okay, I'm rolling out the album. What are

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>like three or four moments I can create.

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Exactly that is just gonna get clipped and then we're

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna send it to all of the pages and they're

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna post and so yeah, yeah, yeah, no, for sure.

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 1>We'll see I mean, I like I saw. I think,

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>like the one thing with the Kendrick thing and like

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Dochi winning Best New Artists or I'm sorry best hip

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Hop Album she got wrong for Best New Artists? Who

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>listens to Chappelle Room, Yeah, I didn't even know who

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that was anyway, But I think it's like promising we'll

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>see you know, we'll see man. But yeah, I'm I'm hopeful.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the ecosystem of media is it's just becoming

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot, dude. Bro.

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 2>The ecosystem of media.

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even hating on anything. I love, Like

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you said, I love speed, but there's always like the

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Playboy Max guy. I feel like he just popped up

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>like a month ago. Yeah he did, he did, and

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:22.800
<v Speaker 1>he's lit now, but I didn't know the fuck he

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>was like forty five days. And to me, I don't

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 1>think there's anything wrong with it.

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I just think that like that ecosystem should exist over

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 2>there because it's the thing.

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>They feed their ecosystem.

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Like Kai puts on a bunch of streamers, he's just

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 2>talking about the stream university that he wants to do doc.

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 2>That's something he's a visionary. But I'm like, they feed

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 2>their ecosystem. The issue with us is that we don't

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 2>feed our ecosystem like our goats or our idols and

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 2>shit like that. They don't go sit down and feed

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 2>the ecosystem. They don't do records with up and coming artists.

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 2>That you'll have an artist, they'll have artists A who

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 2>praised them so much that when you listen to artists

0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 2>as music, you can hear it in their music how

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>much they are influenced by this artist. And then they

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 2>have artists B that kind of likes them, but they

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 2>hot and they popping, and then they'll just go do

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.359
<v Speaker 2>a feature with artists B, which is like, that's cool

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's gonna help you, but it's not gonna help

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the ecosystem because if you do it with artists A,

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna get bigger and then they're going to a

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 2>praise you for doing that and putting them in a

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>bigger light. But then also be they're gonna then feed

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 2>the ecosystem because now they're bigger, so now they can

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:25.479
<v Speaker 2>do bigger features with other people.

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, you know, I think back to the

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Drake rap Ratear interview a few years ago, and I

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>think like it would be if if artists of that

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:38.439
<v Speaker 1>caliber every few years just did one of those sit downs,

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily just with with someone who.

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Wants aware of just pick one, like literally, if you

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 2>could put them in dice and roll the fucking dice out, sure,

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 2>and just just pick one, bro, and it'll keep our

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like ecosystem in that space.

0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Random J Cole stepping out probably best decision ever, right one.

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>When you talk you talk about visionaries, visionary he said,

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't.

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:05.839
<v Speaker 2>Hey, man, everybody knows knows this. That's the reason fan

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm a diehard cold fan. That is my goat,

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 2>like on a Big three. I was hot when I

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 2>figured it when I heard it while I was on stage. Actually,

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I was on stage and I talked to about the

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:16.960
<v Speaker 2>crowd a lot while I'm performing, and somebody in the

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 2>crowd told me like J Cole just apologized because I

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 2>made a joke about the beef. And right when I

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 2>got off stage, I looked a him like, oh my god,

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.719
<v Speaker 2>my heart was hurt. But hindsight you talk about you

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:27.959
<v Speaker 2>talk about twenty twenty.

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I saw a punch. I saw punch maybe like three

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 1>or four days before that, and I was like, hey,

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:38.359
<v Speaker 1>this before push ups came out. Yeah yeah. I was like, hey, Drake, Drake,

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to smoke it. Cold cool, cold, Yeah, he's

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>one of the cold. That would have been a fire

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:46.160
<v Speaker 1>battle though, that would have been man. I'm like I

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 1>told him, I said, hey, but dude, dream Dreamville Fast

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 1>is coming, Like there's a lot of like Q was

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.399
<v Speaker 1>on it, sisor was on it. I was like, yeah,

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happened? Like this is weird, you know, And dude,

0:47:58.200 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 2>I genuinely think dot what's supposed to be at that

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Dreamville fest. I genuinely believe that.

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad man, because you know, there's there's this, uh

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 1>version of a Kendrick and Cole album that was started

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that will never hear, you know, but those two guys

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:13.280
<v Speaker 1>to me are always like you know for sure guys

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 1>you know yeah, uh, any idea when your mixtape is

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>going to you said before the end of the year.

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 2>No, So this mixtape is dropping on the twenty eighth.

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 2>So the album, yeah, the album my bad album I'm

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 2>aiming for I'm aiming for third quarter. I just I'm

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:29.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, kind of tired of all of my

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 2>projects are dropped in third quarter, and then when we

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 2>tore porches it was like freezing cold for sure, and

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 2>so I kind of I want to drop third quarter,

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 2>but I also kind of like maybe I should wait

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 2>till fourth That way I can tour it like maybe

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 2>like March aprilish and it won't be as cold, so

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.879
<v Speaker 2>it'll probably end up like leaning towards fourth quarter.

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Who's who also on the tape besides obviously who we've seen.

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:53.319
<v Speaker 2>On the the mixtape twenty eighth. Uh, this dope up

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:56.359
<v Speaker 2>and coming artist Ben Riley. I want to say he's

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 2>freestyle on my fire fire bro like, yeah, fire, shout

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 2>out to the group chat. We got a group chat

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 2>with U, and I apologize if I miss anybody but

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:07.880
<v Speaker 2>me Ben Riley, Deonte Hitchcock Bro. This group chat is

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 2>so fucking fire bro Seeddi Hendricks Like, It's just a

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:14.839
<v Speaker 2>bunch of a bunch of fire niggas in the group chat.

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:15.799
<v Speaker 1>So that's how I met Ben.

0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:19.880
<v Speaker 2>But Ben, we got a record that we we flipped

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 2>We Made You sample by Kanye Kanye super Fire, and

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 2>he does have a better verse of me. I'm gonna

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 2>just put that out there. He's super super crazy. So

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Ben Riley, of course, you know the Coyotes Ransom by

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 2>hit Boy got a verse. It's funny because people saw

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 2>it and they thought it was production. But I've been

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 2>a big hit Boy rap fan for a long time,

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 2>So shout out to him and Surf Club.

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:41.319
<v Speaker 1>He's on there.

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm coded the friend and coded the

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 2>friends on there.

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's on.

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Actually, my favorite song on the project I have been

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 2>for the last month. Happened because I've been too busy.

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 2>But that's been like you know, my love. We just

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 2>want our championship, the adult league championship. So I take

0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 2>that very seriously. And I got most improved because the

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 2>first season I was so bad and coming off of

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:06.319
<v Speaker 2>just being drunk all the time. At the second season,

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I had nowhere to go but up. So you played.

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.839
<v Speaker 2>I played in college the racist college coach. Ever find

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:15.920
<v Speaker 2>out that you clowned him, I don't know.

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>So many people putting shit together. Bro, they put it

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.279
<v Speaker 1>together too, they like I saw, like they found it.

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:22.120
<v Speaker 1>This is the coach.

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 2>They got it, Bro, they found it. But I don't

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 2>know if he ever did because I never talked to him.

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 2>But my assistant coach did hit me and was like, Bro,

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 2>you're crazy for saying that. But I understand, but I

0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:34.759
<v Speaker 2>understand why you did it.

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 1>He was like, bro, like that.

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 2>He was like, the way you were treated over there

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 2>was fucking nasty. So yeah, excited about Luca. It's super

0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:44.360
<v Speaker 2>excited about Luca. I hated losing Anthony Davis though, I

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:45.879
<v Speaker 2>will say that, And then he got injured his first

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 2>game with the Mavericke and I was like, God, I'm like, bro,

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:50.279
<v Speaker 2>like you know what I'm saying. Like I was talking

0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 2>to the hommies that they hated the trade, because you know,

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Laker fans, we fall in love with players that.

0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 1>We really love. You knew Laker fans that hated the trade.

0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I do.

0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:00.080
<v Speaker 2>I did know Laker fans, which is crazy because it

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 2>was a thing where it was like Ad was carrying

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:03.759
<v Speaker 2>us this season. So it wasn't so much that they

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 2>hated the trade. They just hated to see a d go.

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.200
<v Speaker 2>But I told him, like, bro, like it is what

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:09.759
<v Speaker 2>it is, like you know what I mean. Like, but

0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 2>but I will say this, like the MAVs were right

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 2>in the standpoint of like, look, I got to lose

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:16.319
<v Speaker 2>some weight, bro, that shit. When I saw him run

0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:17.759
<v Speaker 2>up and down the court, I'm like, come on, yeah,

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 2>but like, but he'll be fine though.

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Like that took him to the finals. You should never know.

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 1>This is the thing.

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 2>They were right in saying that he was fat. But

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:27.920
<v Speaker 2>that's not a good enough reason to trade thirty eight.

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 2>That guy is not enough reason to trade it.

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Fat. He could be fat, Yeah, fat guy. Whoever that

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:35.320
<v Speaker 1>guy is, Nick, Nico Richards or whatever. Nick, he's fired.

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna be here long. Bro. I can promise

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you I'm glad. I'm not a Mavericks fan. I'm a

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Sun's fan. I'm tortured, But if that would have happened,

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I might have been in that. I would you know,

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>they say he's getting death threats, I would have been

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:46.560
<v Speaker 1>in those threats.

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, the fans is better than me because to me,

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:53.759
<v Speaker 2>as a fan base, you supposed to boycott games until

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 2>they fire.

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I would have you supposed to boycott. You're supposed to

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:56.880
<v Speaker 1>be outside the arena.

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:58.920
<v Speaker 2>You're supposed to hit them they where they hurt, in

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 2>they pockets and buy no tickets. Was gone just quiet?

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:05.879
<v Speaker 2>It should have been quiet. Like when I saw the game,

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:07.399
<v Speaker 2>I saw many people was there. I was like, oh, y'all,

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:09.320
<v Speaker 2>y'all not serious about this ship. If they would have

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 2>traded Kobe Nigga, if they would have traded Kobe, it

0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have been nobody in that Kobe.

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like if they would have traded Kobe when he

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.320
<v Speaker 1>was thirty seven, maybe you'd have been like, yeah, but

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>if you if traded created Kobe number eight bro after

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 1>he took after he took his team to the finals,

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:29.160
<v Speaker 1>like you trade that Kobe, Bro, the Steple Center would

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:33.520
<v Speaker 1>have been dry outside. It would have been cracking riot. Yeah,

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 1>they would have sad some cars on one percent. So

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like the mass fan.

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:42.400
<v Speaker 2>They clearly don't take their team serious enough because trading Luca,

0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:46.200
<v Speaker 2>y'all supposed to be you're supposed to be demanding Nico's

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 2>head on a stake.

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Yo. Once Luga got traded, I started just wrapping my

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>head around, like damn, I guess they could trade Booker

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 1>if Luca got traded, Like, bro, anybody, Nobody's off limits

0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 1>at this point. Like I'm like, bro, like the Wolves

0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 1>could trade a you know a. Like it's like what

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:07.399
<v Speaker 1>you're being saying, but you're being said, Yeah, anyway, Well listen,

0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I think the only person who's probably untradeable for real,

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:13.840
<v Speaker 1>it's two people Wenby. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that.

0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I agree with that whole heartedly. Yeah Wemby, you

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:20.959
<v Speaker 2>trade Wenby? You you must have cancer and the doctor

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 2>told you have four must live, So you was just

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 2>trying to like make a splash before you you get

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:26.839
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, before you kick the bucket or something.

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 1>All good man. So the mixtapes dropping on the twenty eighth,

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah mixtape dropping on twenty eighth, Go Support, Go Support,

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:33.360
<v Speaker 1>please please be on the lookout.

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Me and COS will be following up pretty soon after that.

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Like it won't be a large yeah, it won't be

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 2>a large gap. It'll be like, yeah, probably we'll probably

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 2>start rolling out, probably start rolling out around Dreamville Fest. Fire,

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:46.960
<v Speaker 2>So it'll be soon dream Belfest like first week and

0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 2>that's the last one, right, yes.

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 1>That's the last one. That is the last one.

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:53.760
<v Speaker 2>So this should be a very very fun and interesting

0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Dreamville Fest. I hope cold drop song like I just

0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 2>want a Cold album, like a real album at this.

0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think. Unfortunately it's crazy because my deleat this

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:02.799
<v Speaker 1>later like kind of got Lost in the Sauce last year,

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:04.359
<v Speaker 1>is such a great body. He worked out that brought.

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I revisited it the other day and I'm like, this

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 2>is a really good project, bro, like a really and

0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:12.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah it is. Everything got lost in the

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:14.319
<v Speaker 2>sauce stow with the beef. The beef, just the beef

0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 2>just was a tidal way to everything here it is.

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Man, Well, I appreciate you pulling up reason my guy,

0:54:19.840 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, brother, appreciate it.

0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 4>Fire