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Speaker 1: Welcome to the latest edition of The Giants Huddle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is our rapid reaction for Week number four, as

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Speaker 1: the Giants outlasted the Saints one in overtime thanks to

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Speaker 1: see Kwan Barkley's six yard rushing touchdown. Lance Meadow, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Eagles pulled the Tito with you. And this was a game, guys,

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Speaker 1: where it did not look good when the Giants were

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Speaker 1: down by eleven in the fourth quarter, but the defense

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Speaker 1: regroup got the stops necessary to give the ball back

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Speaker 1: to the offense, and the offense was able to get

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Speaker 1: the game tying field goal and then ultimately won the

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Speaker 1: coin toss in overtime. So, Jeff, sometimes these wins they

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Speaker 1: don't have to be pretty. You don't get brownie points.

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Speaker 1: But this was really a gutsy win for the Giants

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Speaker 1: to get their first win in hostile territory and find

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Speaker 1: a way to rally. Yeah, I definitely, you know, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't pretty. Um and the Giants, uh, I think that

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Speaker 1: they didn't play well in certain facests of the game,

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Speaker 1: especially the defense and we talk a lot about tackling

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Speaker 1: and you know, and things like that where fundamentals and

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Speaker 1: technique come into effect. And you know, that kind of

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Speaker 1: went out the door. But you know, this is a

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Speaker 1: team that went on the road and I was gonna

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Speaker 1: face a huge distraction and the Super Dome, and they

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Speaker 1: out at the end and uh, they fought and threw

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Speaker 1: it and you know, they came out with a win. Now, UM,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's just it goes to show you

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Speaker 1: that this team has been in every game and they

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Speaker 1: came out with a win on the road and it

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Speaker 1: was gonna be a tough one. But um, like I

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Speaker 1: said before, you know, sometimes just going on the road

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Speaker 1: and no distractions can can help you, um as a team,

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Speaker 1: and it certainly did today. I think the play of

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones continues to get better and the health of

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Speaker 1: sa Quan is getting better, and that showed up in

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Speaker 1: the game today. You had a lot of new guys

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Speaker 1: in the lineups. Cadarius Tony is now has been inserted

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Speaker 1: into this offense in a way that we wanted to

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Speaker 1: see him produce. And that's exactly why they drafted him.

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Speaker 1: It's exactly why they went out and got Kenny Golliday

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Speaker 1: in free agency to be able to make some big

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Speaker 1: out of a wide receiver position. And I think you

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Speaker 1: can't give enough um compliments to that offensive line. They've

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Speaker 1: been through a lot of trials and tribulations and you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of inconsistencies here and there, but I think

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Speaker 1: they really put their nose at a grindstone today and

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Speaker 1: cut down on their penalties and really went up against

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Speaker 1: a good defense. So collectively, hey, a win's a win.

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Speaker 1: They went on the road and got one, and now

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Speaker 1: they've gotta come back. They got a division game coming up,

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Speaker 1: so congratulations to them, absolutely, Paul, I want to start

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Speaker 1: with where this game really started to turn, because Jeff

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Speaker 1: brought up the offensive side of the ball. This was

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Speaker 1: an eleven point lead for the Saints. The Giants got

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Speaker 1: the ball back with just under seven minutes to go.

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Speaker 1: They already earlier in the game had a fifty two

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Jones hit Sae Kwon Barkley

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Speaker 1: They get to two point conversion and we got a

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Speaker 1: ball game as they pull within three points after trailing

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Speaker 1: by double digits for the bulk of the second half. Well,

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Speaker 1: big defensive stop because after the Giants get that touchdown

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Speaker 1: they drive near midfield on a big quarterback pressure on

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Speaker 1: on third and fourteen, Sean Payton just said, I forget

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Speaker 1: punt the ball. Well, that turned out to be a

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Speaker 1: big mistake because the Giants go eleven place fifty nine yards. Graham,

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Speaker 1: send the game in overtime with thirty one seconds left. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: I want to get your take though on Daniel Jones progress.

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Speaker 1: His numbers in the fourth quarter in overtime were combined

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Speaker 1: mean you know what, only of course he always used

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Speaker 1: And and this is a hard enough game to play

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Speaker 1: a maturity that goes into it. You look at the

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Speaker 1: going into last game, there has only been there was

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Speaker 1: only one one quarterback there won a game in the

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Speaker 1: And then when you put behind an offensive line that's

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Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley last season, you know, So these are things

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Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones has learned over time, and I think

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Speaker 1: take these in quarters. You gotta set goals for yourself

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Speaker 1: and I think that going into last season, one of

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Speaker 1: the goals for Daniel Jones was to eliminate his turnovers. Well,

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Speaker 1: he didn't do that very well the first half of

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Speaker 1: the season. The second half of the season and up

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Speaker 1: to this point of the first quarter of the sea

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Speaker 1: well seventeen games, but we'll call it the first quarter. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's been exceptionally well. Uh take the interception today, the

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Speaker 1: throwaway at the end of the half. You don't really

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Speaker 1: Paul and so him having the ball in his hands

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Speaker 1: is what he wants. But what helps a quarterback in

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Speaker 1: The list goes on and on, and that's how quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: And that's what Daniel Jones did today. Well, those individuals

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Speaker 1: I want to focus on Kenny Golladay. Paul was talking

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Speaker 1: breaks two tackles, winds up picking up twenty eight yards. Correct.

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Speaker 1: Not only do they get the first down, Jeff, but

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Speaker 1: they get in field goal range and there's under a

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Speaker 1: Not only is that relationship between the quarterback and the

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Speaker 1: They see guys making plays like that that just exudes confidence,

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Speaker 1: and confidence is what helps you win these games. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: acquisitions who all stepped up today across the board and

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Speaker 1: it's not just the headliners who got into the ends

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Speaker 1: with think Sean Ross. John Ross signed by Dave Gentleman,

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Speaker 1: signed Kyle Rudolph. Rudolph recovers the se Kwan Blackly fumble

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Speaker 1: my goodness, it seems like every guy that Gentleman brought

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Speaker 1: and every one of those names that you just mentioned

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Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman goes when you when you are in the

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Speaker 1: and then what happens. Your two starters go out. You

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Speaker 1: they produce. So I think this is kind of what

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Speaker 1: One day. We're gonna have them all together. And you

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Speaker 1: and I go, you guys. We talked about this all

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Speaker 1: time and the offseason. On paper, look at the weapons

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Speaker 1: it's like a fantasy foot all team, you know. So

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Speaker 1: negative plays helped them win this game. Today we're speaking

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Speaker 1: huge accomplishment. Interestingly, guys, they actually had an illegal substitution

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people watching this game, myself included,

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Speaker 1: were saying, here we go again, right, you're in Saints

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Speaker 1: the foot. They actually found a way to overcome that

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Speaker 1: and os. I know, we get tired of staying that stuff,

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Speaker 1: It was a huge play because you know, a penalty

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Speaker 1: I could see Joe Judge on the on the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: I guess he was mad. I could say he was.

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Speaker 1: Like how do we not? How does this happen? He

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Speaker 1: cost you. They may not have made that big play

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Speaker 1: like that's like that offside penalty on dexter um in

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Speaker 1: the Washington You just I mean, you guys got you

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Speaker 1: mean those are but that didn't happen today. This this

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Speaker 1: team pulled one out. Uh And and by the way,

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Speaker 1: there's there's it is there's no better feeling when you

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Speaker 1: go into an overtime game. With the rules today, um,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, with the rules that used to be,

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Speaker 1: didn't matter any score that you win the game before

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Speaker 1: you know, before they change the rules. But to go

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Speaker 1: down seventy five yards on the road in the Superdome

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Speaker 1: and score a touchdown and never give the ball back

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Speaker 1: to your opponent overtime, that is like a walk off homer.

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Speaker 1: That is when you get a pie in your face

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Speaker 1: coming across home flight. That is what you That's a

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Speaker 1: eating and route back to New Jerseys as a result.

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Speaker 1: As the Giants avoid the negative plays and they somehow

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Speaker 1: of the season as the look to build momentum next

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Speaker 1: weekend in Dallas. Well, guys always enjoyed the conversation. I

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Speaker 1: think the three of us have recapped enough between many

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Speaker 1: different venues over the course of this week four NFL Sunday. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's always good talking to you guys. Thank you absolutely.

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Speaker 1: That is the Rapid Reaction version of the Giants Huttle Podcast.

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