Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome to this week's episode of The
Speaker 1: Real Podcast. As always, my name is Sammy J. And
Speaker 1: you guys, this week's episode is with Ellie's Eiler. Now,
Speaker 1: you may know her from TikTok, Instagram, social media, but
Speaker 1: when I tell you, I felt like I've known this
Speaker 1: girl for years, I am not exaggerating. We had so
Speaker 1: much in common I was shocked by it. We talk
Speaker 1: about the fakeness of social media, how to find true friends,
Speaker 1: how to deal with hate. We talk about fashion, her
Speaker 1: love of New York, and so much more. We also
Speaker 1: talk about her nonprofit Together as One, which I'm so
Speaker 1: excited for you to hear about. I hope you guys
Speaker 1: enjoy this episode. Don't forget to subscribe to the Lesbie
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Speaker 1: Ellis Eisler on social media and follow me at it
Speaker 1: Sammy JA. I hope you guys enjoyed the episode and
Speaker 1: I look forward to your thoughts. So I am so
Speaker 1: excited that you're on my podcast, first of all, because
Speaker 1: I feel like we have a lot of things in common.
Speaker 1: Me too. I'm so excited to be here. We have
Speaker 1: a weird amount of things in common. We're both teenagers,
Speaker 1: we're both working, we're both dealing with the social media thing,
Speaker 1: which it's social media is crazy. We started like the
Speaker 1: same way too, and we have like like the same
Speaker 1: like tendencies, you know what I mean. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm like our call before, where it's like things like
Speaker 1: the old soul thing like all different, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's just like things like that are the same.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I've been trying to
Speaker 1: limit my phone time just because I realized during the
Speaker 1: height of the pandemic when I was inside, my phone
Speaker 1: time was probably like twelve or thirteen hours a day,
Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa, yeah, that's a lot. I
Speaker 1: don't even turn mine on anymore. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see it because honestly, like my favorite time
Speaker 1: of the day is when I like turn it off. Um,
Speaker 1: there's really and like nothing pressing, Like I don't like
Speaker 1: I don't really like snapchat people. I don't. I just
Speaker 1: like text and do take talk and take Instagram pictures
Speaker 1: and then I post it and turn it off. See
Speaker 1: that sounds lovely. I think Snapchat is terrible. I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting, but terrible, but just because like the snap
Speaker 1: maps a big thing where you live, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've experienced this, but like in
Speaker 1: the city, it can be really hard because you'll see
Speaker 1: people hanging out together like on snap maps. When they
Speaker 1: say they're not, it's like this, it was this whole thing.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's funny. Like no one. I used
Speaker 1: to live in North Carolina and like if you go
Speaker 1: on my snap map, like everyone's is turned on, like
Speaker 1: over there on the East Coast, and like no one's
Speaker 1: is where I live. Like everyone is like doing their
Speaker 1: own thing and very private about it. But it's like fun.
Speaker 1: It's like gossip Girl, like the little like maths that
Speaker 1: they use. I okay, here's a question. When you come
Speaker 1: to New York, are you into the gossip Girl vibe?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well actually I started it over Quarantine. I
Speaker 1: started gossip Girl for the first time ever. Quarantine. It's
Speaker 1: like completely changed my life, like literally had to get
Speaker 1: like pack of packs of head bands, like had to
Speaker 1: like change the whole style for that. But I haven't
Speaker 1: been to New York since, and so I remember going
Speaker 1: and seeing like Gossip Girl tours or like people taking
Speaker 1: pictures on the met steps and being like, oh, I
Speaker 1: wonder what that's where? And now I know. Now you
Speaker 1: get the references exactly exactly. Okay, Wait, so you start
Speaker 1: you from North Carolina, so where I know you've moved
Speaker 1: a bunch where or all the places you've lived? So
Speaker 1: I lived. I lived in California until I was in
Speaker 1: seventh grade, and then I lived in North Carolina for
Speaker 1: just one year and then I came right back, um
Speaker 1: to California. But like in here, I've moved like different
Speaker 1: schools and different houses and things like that. What about you?
Speaker 1: Have you lived in New York your whole life. I'm
Speaker 1: a city girl. I've lived here my entire life. That's
Speaker 1: so fun. Oh my gosh. I mean it's it's so
Speaker 1: interesting to me because everyone from l A one to
Speaker 1: New York and like, I want to go to California.
Speaker 1: It's true. I was talking to this girl um in
Speaker 1: a story yesterday and she went to college in New
Speaker 1: York and I was like, how is that? Like why
Speaker 1: are you back? And she was like I wish I
Speaker 1: wasn't back. I love it there, And I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: everyone I talked to that goes like comes right back
Speaker 1: to California. But I don't know. I really like it,
Speaker 1: but I when when did you say was the last
Speaker 1: time you came here? I think it was last February.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's been a long time. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: not missing much. Like it's not like l A, like
Speaker 1: you go on to Melrose Girt shopping like no one's
Speaker 1: out anymore, which is interesting. But like then again, like
Speaker 1: that's so crazy, Like that's all I want to do
Speaker 1: is go to New York. I had tickets for this
Speaker 1: past weekend and I had them planned and then we
Speaker 1: had to cancel them. So it was a sad moment.
Speaker 1: But have you seen any Broadway shows? Because that's the
Speaker 1: one thing that if you're here that I recommend. Really,
Speaker 1: I mean, when I was younger, show those I like
Speaker 1: saw completely forgot, but I will do that. Maybe we
Speaker 1: should go to a show when I come. Yes, we
Speaker 1: have to go together. Okay, I recommend mean girls on Broadway. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Incredible, Uh, Hamilton's of course, and dear
Speaker 1: Van Hanson, those are like my go to three. We're
Speaker 1: going all three. We're going to go to all of them.
Speaker 1: I am down for that, and I think one of
Speaker 1: the I think one of the other reasons why we
Speaker 1: have so much in comedies. We were the same age.
Speaker 1: We're both in high school, and it's really I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, but I'm finding it really difficult, as
Speaker 1: you know, school has gotten really weird because of COVID
Speaker 1: to just like have a healthy work life balance with
Speaker 1: school and that it's also finding a balance with friends
Speaker 1: who are there for the right reasons. I know you
Speaker 1: started social media and like March, how in the time
Speaker 1: that you've been on social media, have you noticed any
Speaker 1: people coming back into your life out of the blue
Speaker 1: when you go viral? Oh? Yes, I think from like
Speaker 1: all different years of my life, like all years in
Speaker 1: all grades, like people have come back, Like the people
Speaker 1: that have hurt my feelings have been like will you
Speaker 1: unblock me? Or will you like, I'm so sorry? Can
Speaker 1: we be friends? Like I'd love to hang out And
Speaker 1: I'm never like I'm not necessarily a mean person, and
Speaker 1: so I don't like to like be mean back, of course,
Speaker 1: but it's like I have no response for them. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's so crazy, or even like hanging
Speaker 1: out with new people. They'll be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I had a situation with a boy. It was like
Speaker 1: the first like I had. I was talking like zero boys,
Speaker 1: and then I talked to this one for like a
Speaker 1: good two weeks in quarantine, and he would say things
Speaker 1: like you'd be like, um, like you can meet my
Speaker 1: family if you post me on your TikTok and like
Speaker 1: no one knows about this, so you know whatever. But
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, like who says that? Who?
Speaker 1: Who does that? And so then I just find myself
Speaker 1: in my house all day and my mom's like on
Speaker 1: Friday nights, She's like, I think you should go hang
Speaker 1: out with your friends, and I'm like, like, what who
Speaker 1: am I going out with? I will say I've had
Speaker 1: some I try not to let people know about, like
Speaker 1: if it's in that like when I'm talking to someone,
Speaker 1: because then the first question is can I be on
Speaker 1: your podcast? Why can't I be on your pod? I'm
Speaker 1: like what, yeah, you know right? And I'm like who,
Speaker 1: Like I would never think to like say that to someone, right,
Speaker 1: Like who thinks to say that? What? It's ballsy though
Speaker 1: it is, oh the whole like me, your family, if
Speaker 1: you post me on TikTok. That was that was like, okay, wow,
Speaker 1: like that's ridiculous. I also feel like, I don't know
Speaker 1: about you, but it's so hard to find a nice
Speaker 1: guy nowadays because of COVID, because of social media and
Speaker 1: everything's like over Snapchat and it's like just text me,
Speaker 1: like that's so much call me, I just me FaceTime.
Speaker 1: Yeah what I want? I want Chuck Bass or something
Speaker 1: like that all time. I don't get the hype with him,
Speaker 1: can somebody, No, I don't get our first difference. Okay, No,
Speaker 1: he's okay, I'm here's my reasoning. I the first episode,
Speaker 1: he like tries to assault the little sister. Am I wrong? Okay,
Speaker 1: he's grown, he grew up. He grew so much like okay,
Speaker 1: he does. The first and second season, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, who is this like trying to get with everyone?
Speaker 1: And then by the end I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Like I know it's a controversial opinion, but I found
Speaker 1: him attractive when I found out he's British in real life,
Speaker 1: because for some reason, someone gets like ten points when
Speaker 1: they're British. So true, Okay, okay, thank you for saying that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. I followed him on Instagram. And the thing is,
Speaker 1: it's like he seems obviously we don't know him. Maybe
Speaker 1: we should find out, we should maybe we should ask
Speaker 1: him to come on. Yes, we need a group FaceTime call.
Speaker 1: His name is Edwin. Okay, he looks like an Edwin,
Speaker 1: he does, and he has the accent. And he also
Speaker 1: in all of his Instagram posts he's like in Greece
Speaker 1: in Paris, like just like living the life of bass.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, how amazing, Like maybe it
Speaker 1: really does happen. Maybe I'm just like we're living in
Speaker 1: such a weird time that I feel like for me,
Speaker 1: I'm always that are fron all the way ever since
Speaker 1: like two thousand six. Yeah, I've never been. I've never been.
Speaker 1: Uh I know a banana, I've never or like musical
Speaker 1: like never like whoa, I know our second difference. No,
Speaker 1: I count this in the same boat. This is like
Speaker 1: the boys. Okay. I think that's fair because that means like,
Speaker 1: if there's a boy that's like my type, like you're
Speaker 1: not gonna like him too, So it's just not going
Speaker 1: to create a conflict with us. It's a good thing, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's good. Did be not too similar, but I feel
Speaker 1: like something. I don't know if you've experienced this at
Speaker 1: win l A, but it's really hard to find people
Speaker 1: that are there for the right reasons where it's not
Speaker 1: for followers or to get on your TikTok. Have you
Speaker 1: come up with a circle of privacy when you realize
Speaker 1: someone's not there for the right reasons? How how have
Speaker 1: you dealt with that? Because I'm still learning because it's weird.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I'm still learning with that too. I wish
Speaker 1: I had I wish you had an exact answer you
Speaker 1: could tell me with that, because when this boy did
Speaker 1: that to me, I just remember texting him and being
Speaker 1: like sorry, like with school and everything, like I just
Speaker 1: don't have time, like I need to stop talking with you,
Speaker 1: like it's distracting me and all this stuff, and that
Speaker 1: was it. And I would you say l O L Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he has like no idea that, like I guess I
Speaker 1: mean now he does, like sorry, actually blocked him. I
Speaker 1: don't want him say any of my stuff anymore. That's fair. Well,
Speaker 1: blocking is such a great answer to a bunch of things,
Speaker 1: like everyone is like blocking is so many but it's
Speaker 1: so like you're just like on like they don't follow,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't follow them. Something you can do
Speaker 1: that I didn't realize is that you can have the
Speaker 1: person unfollow you. But like I'm a public account, so
Speaker 1: like if he were to go, like he can still
Speaker 1: see everything, but that means he would be looking you up.
Speaker 1: Like I'm saying, if they don't really look you up,
Speaker 1: they would have no idea. They would just stop seeing
Speaker 1: your feet. Okay, you're right, Okay, maybe I need to
Speaker 1: retract a little bit and do the like remove the
Speaker 1: follower type thing. I don't know. It's so interesting to
Speaker 1: me because I've had the way people have treated me.
Speaker 1: When I'm starting on my podcast. It wasn't to like
Speaker 1: get a podcast. It was like a way to distract
Speaker 1: from my anxiety and what was going on with my
Speaker 1: friends at the time. And it's so interesting because I
Speaker 1: haven't heard a thing from them. But then I think
Speaker 1: when Dixie came on, I got a bunch of d
Speaker 1: M from people I haven't heard from in a year
Speaker 1: and a half to two years. So crazy, it's so weird,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just weird. It's like it's kind of
Speaker 1: like I compare it to when someone is like mean
Speaker 1: in school, Like I would like I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think to be mean to someone, and so it's just
Speaker 1: like that way where it's like I wouldn't think to
Speaker 1: ask someone to post me or things like that. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, that's so aggressive, right, it's so aggressive,
Speaker 1: but like something else that I've been trying to find
Speaker 1: interesting balance with this, making sure the positive comments are
Speaker 1: what my priority priority are. But then you know, the
Speaker 1: hate can get pretty, you know, shitty sometimes. Something that
Speaker 1: I don't understand is they hate you get is so
Speaker 1: unjustified because you're just yourself. And I think you've had
Speaker 1: to prove you had to work harder than a lot
Speaker 1: of people because you can't just do like the regular dances.
Speaker 1: You have to you know, be yourself to prove that
Speaker 1: you're not just like every other TikToker. What has that
Speaker 1: experience been like on your mental health? Just keeping a
Speaker 1: healthy balance with it, but also not letting that hate
Speaker 1: get to you. I mean, it's it's been hard. I
Speaker 1: I think, like in the beginn inning it was a
Speaker 1: lot of talking and a lot of crying and therapy
Speaker 1: and just getting through it. I've always had very thick
Speaker 1: skin because of things that happened to me in person,
Speaker 1: and like things that went on in school and bullying
Speaker 1: and all that type of stuff, and so I guess
Speaker 1: I'm lucky. I was talking about this yesterday actually actually
Speaker 1: with my mom, where it's like if I was like
Speaker 1: mentally unstable at the beginning of quarantine from school and everything,
Speaker 1: and I started this like I don't know how I
Speaker 1: could have gotten through it. But so like when someone's
Speaker 1: mean to me online, it doesn't like resonnate as much
Speaker 1: as if like I've been in like Target or like
Speaker 1: walking down the street or like walking my dogs and
Speaker 1: people like call me names. They're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's Charlie and like all this stuff, and like I
Speaker 1: don't know how to react to it when it's in person.
Speaker 1: Wine I can, definitely I can. I can sometimes handle it,
Speaker 1: but it's also like I've had it's been harder and
Speaker 1: like a lot more work than a lot of people
Speaker 1: I guess would see. Where it's like I post now,
Speaker 1: I post like vlogs, and I post like dancing videos
Speaker 1: as well, and I post fashion videos and I post
Speaker 1: cooking videos just so people can see like how I
Speaker 1: actually am on camera. I wish it was like a
Speaker 1: FaceTime call with every single follower of mine that like
Speaker 1: I could talk to them because that's how I've always
Speaker 1: been in person. I'm like way more of a talk
Speaker 1: in person, just like you said, like I'm not a snapchatter,
Speaker 1: Like we like to call and talk with people, and
Speaker 1: I feel like my personality is so much more than
Speaker 1: I mean, anyone's looks. But it's it was just interesting
Speaker 1: how it got off that way, and like in person too,
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I get people do things online because
Speaker 1: they're behind a screen, but like the fact that they
Speaker 1: did that in person is that people are balls. The
Speaker 1: I I could never like, I could never I know,
Speaker 1: I want to go in their minds. It's rough, like
Speaker 1: what makes them think that, Like the psychology behind that
Speaker 1: or is there like rainbow and like sunshine and we
Speaker 1: go and there's something cleaning hate coming out somehow on
Speaker 1: my YouTube. The fact that paparazzi are coming to you
Speaker 1: as a teenage girl, like grown men, grown men asking
Speaker 1: you questions about petty TikTok drama. Yeah, that's odd. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's like the difference between I guess
Speaker 1: like New York and like l A, where that's like
Speaker 1: very normal. Here, it's just a difference between different I
Speaker 1: guess paparazzi experiences would be it's like an astronomical difference,
Speaker 1: like Hollywood Fix and like Fletcher, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've heard of him, um, but he's like he's like
Speaker 1: gotten very respectful and asks me questions other like I
Speaker 1: was on the sidewalk with my brother and he was
Speaker 1: actually he was like doing like suffilon or something. There
Speaker 1: was like I don't know, it was the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and he like comes up to me and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: is this a coult? Like are you joining a coal?
Speaker 1: And then I was like I don't know how to
Speaker 1: ad like I didn't know how to answer. That's like
Speaker 1: so like are you always copying people? I'm like, who,
Speaker 1: like nice to meet you? Like him out like great,
Speaker 1: happy Sunday, Like what are you doing? Also, you're a
Speaker 1: grown ass man, you're a six girl? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like I'm sixteen? Like okay, calm down, please, thank you
Speaker 1: very much. Like I don't know how we'd handle myself
Speaker 1: in that type of situation. That's overwhelming. Just like I said,
Speaker 1: like the in person things are really hard like that,
Speaker 1: like like it like stumps you like full on you
Speaker 1: can be like you're on camera and then it goes
Speaker 1: on YouTube, I know, and then like let's say you're quiet,
Speaker 1: Like I know, I've watched Hollywood fixed videos where like
Speaker 1: people are quiet and they just like walk by and
Speaker 1: don't answer, and then all the comments are like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, she's so rude or it's so hard. It's
Speaker 1: so it's like I can never win. So hard I know,
Speaker 1: you can never win. You can never win. I remember
Speaker 1: that one Sunday we were walking like and like it's
Speaker 1: like the guy like completely ruined my day. Like it
Speaker 1: just like really hurt my feelings to like here because
Speaker 1: I feel like I've come so far from the beginning
Speaker 1: and like my reputation and everything like that, and like
Speaker 1: here it be brought up again and here I am.
Speaker 1: He was like walking backwards and like I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you're about to trip and like being
Speaker 1: like so nice, and then he walks away and I
Speaker 1: was like wow, like is that really what people think
Speaker 1: of me? Still? And then I was like, why is
Speaker 1: he like thirty years old follows me? Like, but I
Speaker 1: think that's more telling on their part that it's Yeah, honestly,
Speaker 1: kudos to you for just handling yourself against all of that. Okay,
Speaker 1: enough about the crazy paparazzi. We have to take a
Speaker 1: quick break. But when we come back, I want to
Speaker 1: talk to you about how you balance social media with school,
Speaker 1: our mutual love a fashion and design. You might throw
Speaker 1: in a little Harry Styles talk and much more. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back and we're back. I found it's hard
Speaker 1: to find a balance between everything going on in the world,
Speaker 1: be work and also school. I mean, we're students. How
Speaker 1: have you been doing with that? Um? I have a
Speaker 1: very i'd say, like strict schedule where it's like wake up,
Speaker 1: do school, finish like a good amount, like a lot
Speaker 1: of my classes, and then do work and then at
Speaker 1: night if I have anything more to do that and
Speaker 1: like keep up with it. But last year, like the
Speaker 1: ending of last year was rough, Like I got so behind,
Speaker 1: and like obviously it's just hard because who wouldn't like
Speaker 1: when someone when my mom, because my mom usually reminds
Speaker 1: me and like it's literally right here, like she like
Speaker 1: makes lists of everything that I have to do during
Speaker 1: the day. When I like see that on the counter,
Speaker 1: and it's like make two tiktoks, make an Instagram picture,
Speaker 1: Like of course I want to do that instead of
Speaker 1: writing an English essay of course, but like that's really
Speaker 1: I mean, the only reason that I can get to
Speaker 1: go to New York is because I want to go
Speaker 1: to n y U and I want to go to
Speaker 1: college all these different things. But it's like it's a struggle,
Speaker 1: and I feel like not a lot of tick talkers
Speaker 1: or people in social media. I have to do it
Speaker 1: because it seems like everyone is just doing this one thing,
Speaker 1: whereas there's quite there's like a little group that like
Speaker 1: I can tell they're like going to college or doing
Speaker 1: like high school and this What about you? Though? What what?
Speaker 1: What's your schedule? You know what I mean? For that?
Speaker 1: So with COVID, I would have if code wasn't a thing,
Speaker 1: I'd be going to classes five days a week. UM.
Speaker 1: So now classes are only three days a week for me. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm taking five or six courses and I have my
Speaker 1: school day. I have my classes. It's with other people
Speaker 1: just virtually um, and then I do the work. I
Speaker 1: try and get dead I do in between classes. I
Speaker 1: try and get work done in some classes if it's
Speaker 1: like you know, drama or something, Oh, maybe do a
Speaker 1: little a multitask a little bit ya off a yeah,
Speaker 1: like maybe doing some extra work. But I think the
Speaker 1: hardest thing for me is, you know, I'll be doing
Speaker 1: my statistics homework and then I'll get a phone call
Speaker 1: being like, okay, we need this approval for x y z.
Speaker 1: We need you to create x y z, and it's
Speaker 1: like I do that, but then I have to go
Speaker 1: back in statistics mode. So it's like this weird thing
Speaker 1: that's like so hard to go back and forth between
Speaker 1: this creative side of things that I want to do
Speaker 1: and things that you know, it's I'm glad I'm doing it,
Speaker 1: but it's just like hard to go back and forth.
Speaker 1: So true, it's so hard with like the different minds
Speaker 1: and like even like I've seen with like binging TikTok
Speaker 1: this whole quarantine. Like my attention span is so short.
Speaker 1: It's like rough, Like how like I can be watching
Speaker 1: TV and be like looking at my phone. Like it's like,
Speaker 1: so it's so bad, but you're so right. Well, like
Speaker 1: I'll be in the middle of a quiz and like
Speaker 1: my mom will be like, oh and this is due
Speaker 1: when you're done, and then I'm like okay, I'm done,
Speaker 1: Like let's do it now. It's like never gets finished.
Speaker 1: But it's hard. If anyone anyone listening to this, if
Speaker 1: you have any tips, recommendations for us, we need this
Speaker 1: advice comment please, we are always looking for some advice. Please,
Speaker 1: we do need that. That's really something that's I didn't
Speaker 1: know we had in common. Something else, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: is fashion. Oh yes, I have sewn for like ten years.
Speaker 1: I used to design clothes and all of that, and
Speaker 1: I kind of got out of it when the podcast
Speaker 1: started and all that. But I think, what's so cool
Speaker 1: what you're doing with your merch because it's different. It's
Speaker 1: not like a basic shirt that has a weird saying.
Speaker 1: It's like actually something that's you know, there's thought into it.
Speaker 1: It's actually cute and it's I can tell you're really
Speaker 1: hard worker, which I really like. If you could have
Speaker 1: a fashion line, okay, and let's say you got one tomorrow,
Speaker 1: what would your dream piece be to create? That's hard.
Speaker 1: I am a huge fan of sweaters um as you
Speaker 1: can see. Yeah, just so I think like a good
Speaker 1: I mean like a printed sweater like this with something
Speaker 1: on it. Um. It's so interesting that you say that
Speaker 1: about my merch because not a lot of people know.
Speaker 1: I was talking to my manager about it yesterday that
Speaker 1: everyone's She was like, everyone loved the merch and I
Speaker 1: was like I know, and like, little does everyone know
Speaker 1: we had I had like a week to come up
Speaker 1: with the ideas for all of that, and I had
Speaker 1: like a full like vision board like photoshopped like all
Speaker 1: these different things on it, like it was gonna be
Speaker 1: a matching set. We were gonna have a bunch of
Speaker 1: different things going around it. And then I called I
Speaker 1: like get on a call of fan joy and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you have to keep it to three things, Max, And
Speaker 1: I was like three things, Max, Like I have like
Speaker 1: ten things on this one sweatshow Like what am I
Speaker 1: gonna do? Um? And so I really appreciate that. It
Speaker 1: was like a very big shock to me that everyone
Speaker 1: liked it so much. Obviously, like I loved it, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't expecting other people too. I guess that's how
Speaker 1: it is most of the time. Um. But back to
Speaker 1: your original question, I think a sweater would probably be
Speaker 1: my favorite thing. What about you? Like that's hard because
Speaker 1: it's like there's like a sure address pants, a sweater,
Speaker 1: the accessories, not even Yeah, I love a good accessory
Speaker 1: for the longest time, I didn't really appreciate, but like
Speaker 1: they do so much. Like the littlest thing. I always
Speaker 1: just have this one ring on. I just you know,
Speaker 1: when you wear ring, it's like and you take it
Speaker 1: off for so long, like it feels weird. Yes, like
Speaker 1: I haven't taken this off in two years. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah queen, Um, I yeah. I used to have like
Speaker 1: the tan lines and everything, and then I got really
Speaker 1: into rings. And then I saw Harry Styles cover on
Speaker 1: Vogue and I saw him wearing a ring on every finger.
Speaker 1: So now I'm like, okay, now I have to like
Speaker 1: if Harry Styles doesn't you know, I don't understand why
Speaker 1: he got hate on that. That was the most iconic thing,
Speaker 1: the whole essay on that actually with like the whole
Speaker 1: like Candice Owen's talking about it, like I wrote like
Speaker 1: a whole essay about it. It was so crazy, um
Speaker 1: that I had the chance to do that for English class.
Speaker 1: It was like a monument project. And I was like,
Speaker 1: Harry Styles deserves a monument in the met in the
Speaker 1: fashion exhibit, like it just has to happen. I don't
Speaker 1: understand why he got hit for that either, So dumb
Speaker 1: when fun fact, when I was eight, I when I
Speaker 1: was at jingle Ball, it was One Direction was pretty popping.
Speaker 1: And I see Harristyles backstage and I go, I don't
Speaker 1: think I've told anyone this. And I go up to him,
Speaker 1: being like an eight or nine year old, to be like, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm a really big fan. Can I get an autographed
Speaker 1: for my best friend? I got her an autograph. All
Speaker 1: I remember is he smelled so good? What really so good? Okay,
Speaker 1: I like, I don't I'm scared to say this out loud,
Speaker 1: but like, I was never like a really one like
Speaker 1: a big one Direction fan, but ever since his new
Speaker 1: album came out, my friend told me that it was
Speaker 1: like a whole storyline. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed, Like this is amazing. I can't believe you.
Speaker 1: Remember that I loved it was one of the moments
Speaker 1: because I was so overwhelmed. But I remember him being
Speaker 1: so nice because I was so little, and then he
Speaker 1: was also so nice to my brother. I was like,
Speaker 1: because that's the sticks with you seriously and also sticks
Speaker 1: out to you when the ones aren't very nice. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Know when you look up to someone and they're actually nice.
Speaker 1: It's like, wow, like, okay, I chose a right person.
Speaker 1: I will say one of the most full circle thing
Speaker 1: that's happened to me is in I was in Megan
Speaker 1: Trainers meet and greet. UM I went, I made a
Speaker 1: poster everything, and like four years later she was on
Speaker 1: my podcast and I told her about it. What did
Speaker 1: she react with? She was like, that's awesome. It's a
Speaker 1: full circle. And then she started following me on Instagram
Speaker 1: and I'm like, she's a real one. She's the sweetest.
Speaker 1: Love you, Megan when you look. I stood in line
Speaker 1: for that meet and greet for so long and the
Speaker 1: fact it was just like the most full circle moment
Speaker 1: for me. So everyone be nice to people. Yes, it
Speaker 1: pays off. You don't know what they're impression of you
Speaker 1: is going to be so true. And that's how I
Speaker 1: feel with like even Instagram follows like my favorite like
Speaker 1: bloggers like I don't know, I like I used to
Speaker 1: like grow up watching Mrs Remy Ashton's UM YouTube video.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know who that is. Yes,
Speaker 1: of course I found out she follows me and I
Speaker 1: was like, what the heck just happened? Like what is
Speaker 1: this um? But Yeah, that's so full circle with Megan.
Speaker 1: We love that. Did you watch all of like the
Speaker 1: Milaresha videos the Black Friday? Were you one of those? I?
Speaker 1: I mean I binged the Black Friday ones. Yes, long
Speaker 1: story short, Yes, I was a YouTube fanatic. I believe
Speaker 1: I went to that Girl's Night intour and I was like, no, why,
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. I always I always wanted to go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you've picked them all. Wow, I took
Speaker 1: what it was. I didn't. I was like, looking back,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. So everyone was going
Speaker 1: everyone went crazy. What is like? What did they do
Speaker 1: the whole time? Like nothing and everything? Does that make
Speaker 1: sense that so much? It's just because like they were there,
Speaker 1: and I think everyone just like they could have done
Speaker 1: anything and everyone would have screamed. Like imagine having that
Speaker 1: kind of fan base. I love that. I really do
Speaker 1: like Alicia, Marie and all of them. Yes, when they
Speaker 1: those collabs, when they all did like those summer claus
Speaker 1: was like the highlight of the month. But I wonder
Speaker 1: because we're at those ages like when they were doing that,
Speaker 1: which is so crazy to think, so like it makes
Speaker 1: me think like what was actually going on? Right? Like
Speaker 1: what like, like they could not have just been filming
Speaker 1: YouTube videos all day. I out, like, what, okay, we
Speaker 1: have to take one final break up. When we come back,
Speaker 1: I want to talk with you about misconceptions of high school,
Speaker 1: how you found your group of people and your nonprofit
Speaker 1: together is one and much more. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: and we're back. I'm curious if you've ever thought this,
Speaker 1: But when I was younger, I thought I would be
Speaker 1: so different at eighteen than I actually am. Like I
Speaker 1: was like eighteen, like, oh my god. That was like
Speaker 1: when the last high school musical will look like an adult,
Speaker 1: I'll be like, first of all, they cast people way
Speaker 1: too old in movies, because I remember in ninth grade,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness, there are gonna be
Speaker 1: so many key boys. No, they're pre pubescent high school boys,
Speaker 1: and they this the movies and the show's totally played me.
Speaker 1: It's such a click bait. Like again, just have to
Speaker 1: bring it back to Gossip Girl Chuck Boss, like like
Speaker 1: he was probably like thirty filming it, Like what that's
Speaker 1: not really they were not the way first about the
Speaker 1: way they dressed. They were not high school or see
Speaker 1: that's the kind of high school stuff that I wish
Speaker 1: was talked about me too, Like I was so blindsided
Speaker 1: walking in. Is there anything you wish you're going into
Speaker 1: high school? I feel like I just I could have
Speaker 1: definitely skipped like the whole like trying to make friends
Speaker 1: face like I was gonna be alone anyway, might as
Speaker 1: well just like because I don't know, like just do
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Um, but yeah, I probably could have
Speaker 1: done without that there trying to make friends first month
Speaker 1: and now after watching gossip Girl, I figured like I've
Speaker 1: been much more confrontational about things, where like, if something's
Speaker 1: bothering me, I'll like say it because I'm like there would. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't like her. I don't know why she's so
Speaker 1: she's mean. I'm sorry her, and we're going back to this,
Speaker 1: but I know I don't get that, like they have
Speaker 1: a very toxic relationship. I don't get the hype we're
Speaker 1: I think this is just one of those things we're
Speaker 1: going to agree to disagree on. Yeah, okay, moving on,
Speaker 1: moving on, And what were we talking about? We're talking about,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, being confrontated. What do you wish you knew
Speaker 1: in high school? Oh? Yeah, what about you? What do
Speaker 1: you wish you knew. I've noticed some girls can be mean,
Speaker 1: and you know, you find it everywhere. But I feel
Speaker 1: like if we support each other and if we all
Speaker 1: know that we're not competition, then that would make society better.
Speaker 1: In turn, that's true. I've met so many great people,
Speaker 1: but so many people are so like the girls sometimes
Speaker 1: don't have great motives. Yeah, Like I don't understand, like
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be pitted against each other. There's enough of
Speaker 1: that in this world. Seriously, if anything, we should support
Speaker 1: each other more. And it's green. Girls can be mean.
Speaker 1: I was blindsided by that. I was also very blindsided
Speaker 1: by like like I didn't think people like smoked or
Speaker 1: like had alcohol. I was just like I was like what,
Speaker 1: like what do you guys doing, Like I'm confused here,
Speaker 1: or like I don't I don't know. Like we should
Speaker 1: make like a reality. It's like like high school reality.
Speaker 1: Like again then podcast together for another one just talking
Speaker 1: about the high school like reality. Yeah, we really should. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I will say that one of the things that blindsided
Speaker 1: me most um in New York. I'm sure this is everywhere,
Speaker 1: but in New York, like especially, drugs are so prevalent.
Speaker 1: I remember there's an eighth grader who did acid in
Speaker 1: eighth grade. My brothers were in eighth grade last year
Speaker 1: and they told me about someone doing that too, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my goodness, that is thing. Like
Speaker 1: I think it's a thing, and I think it's a thing.
Speaker 1: To the fact that like I'm over here, and then
Speaker 1: like all of high schoolers are over here, and it's
Speaker 1: just like, everyone, stay safe. Don't do acid. It's not
Speaker 1: it will it will mess up your brain. I'm a
Speaker 1: stre you just stay safe, yea, Like I just stay safe.
Speaker 1: Like I totally get experimenting, like that's part of high school,
Speaker 1: but never do anything that can kill you. That's my motto. Definitely.
Speaker 1: I glad this isn't just a New York thing though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glad. Yeah, but I can I can definitely see
Speaker 1: where it's more. I don't know, I can kind of
Speaker 1: see the I mean, like people I see on TikTok
Speaker 1: that I follow, like girls from New York are kind
Speaker 1: of scary. Sometimes I understand that. I can understand why
Speaker 1: that is. I think it's all it's but that's everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's like finding your people. I think it's only again,
Speaker 1: I was talking to this girl in the story. Yesterday
Speaker 1: she went to f I T and she was like, um,
Speaker 1: she was like, I was like, so, how would you
Speaker 1: describe the difference, And she was like, if someone doesn't
Speaker 1: like you in New York, like they'll say it to
Speaker 1: your face. If someone doesn't like you here, like Bill
Speaker 1: talk bad about you to like tend of their friends,
Speaker 1: and like you will have no idea, and like that's
Speaker 1: just how I don't know, that's how it goes. I
Speaker 1: guess it's interesting. No one has told me ever to
Speaker 1: my face they didn't like me. But I've just heard
Speaker 1: like a lot of gossiping, which I just high school,
Speaker 1: And then I think that's just high school. Like high school.
Speaker 1: I think one of the main things that I've learned
Speaker 1: is don't let that it feels so big in the moment,
Speaker 1: but it's so small on the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 1: Something else but I've been so happy when I found
Speaker 1: this out, is that you have a nonprofit, which I
Speaker 1: did not realize. I've always wanted to create a nonprofit.
Speaker 1: So what advice do you have for other people, because
Speaker 1: it can be very intimidating to start a project or
Speaker 1: start wanting to get in business, whether that is a
Speaker 1: nonprofit or a fashion line. What advice do you have
Speaker 1: for people who just want to start? That aspect itself
Speaker 1: is overwhelming, it's kind of dumb, But like UM, as Nike,
Speaker 1: you would say, just do it. No, there's no like
Speaker 1: downside in in starting it, and like that's the thing is.
Speaker 1: I remember, like I wanted to start my nonprofit organization
Speaker 1: UM for years, Like I knew like I knew I
Speaker 1: wanted to do it, but I was like, I'm not ready,
Speaker 1: Like it's not planned out enough, like I don't know
Speaker 1: like what we're gonna call it, all these different things,
Speaker 1: And then I got to the point where we were
Speaker 1: just like we have to start now. If we're not
Speaker 1: going to start now, like it's not going to help
Speaker 1: anyone UM, and so just starting it and like as
Speaker 1: you progress it will change. Like for example, for mine,
Speaker 1: I started it with my two best friends Sophie and Lola,
Speaker 1: who are twins UM and so us us three started
Speaker 1: it and like when we first started it, we post
Speaker 1: like once a week, like just like a long video,
Speaker 1: and then we started skipping weeks and now we've gotten
Speaker 1: to the point where it's like, Okay, we're just gonna
Speaker 1: post like a bunch like every day like like quotes
Speaker 1: and things like that, Like it doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: like super planned out, but with like starting a fashion
Speaker 1: line or starting company, it's just starting. Starting is like
Speaker 1: the hardest part saying with like an essay, like like
Speaker 1: physically like starting, Yeah, you just need to start it
Speaker 1: and don't overthink it too. That's a big thing. I
Speaker 1: can get in my head a lot about it, and
Speaker 1: then you're just in this downward spiral. Tell everyone how
Speaker 1: how you got started with it? Because I think it's
Speaker 1: a really good story. Um, well, it's a good story.
Speaker 1: It's also kind of sad, how very how like kick
Speaker 1: started so basically again started it with my two friends
Speaker 1: Sophie and Lola and their brothers had an anti bullying
Speaker 1: nonprofit in high school and they went to like Columbia
Speaker 1: and USC as well, and so you're like, okay, we
Speaker 1: have to do it too, like fall on their footsteps.
Speaker 1: Like they're like just these amazing people in high school
Speaker 1: doing great things, and we're like, okay, we need to
Speaker 1: start it too. So we started together as one um
Speaker 1: started posting doing you know, good deeds we do like
Speaker 1: mis for Monday things like that. With that, I wait
Speaker 1: as a do. I love that? Thank you. That's like
Speaker 1: a lot of planning to like kind of iconic mis
Speaker 1: for Monday. It's the Monday. It was a hole my canoes. Yes,
Speaker 1: so like handing out flowers to people. It was mis
Speaker 1: for Monday post day. Um, can we make that a
Speaker 1: national holiday? Thaturday's misa Monday. No, it should just be
Speaker 1: like an Instagram hashtag, like you do something nice on
Speaker 1: Monday in time, and you have to wear blue too. Yes,
Speaker 1: of course I love that. Okay, continue, We're gonna start that,
Speaker 1: um okay. And so a few weeks in two together's one,
Speaker 1: there was actually, um a shooting at our synagogue. It
Speaker 1: was also where Sophie, Lola and I went to preschool
Speaker 1: and grew up, and so like all of our teachers
Speaker 1: were there, um, all of like our mentors were there.
Speaker 1: And so there's a shooting and it like really rocked
Speaker 1: our community. Like it was seriously less than a mile
Speaker 1: away from my house. That's terrifying. Yeah, it was scary,
Speaker 1: and so our whole community had no idea what to do,
Speaker 1: and like even going to school, like no teachers were
Speaker 1: talking about it and no one was like acknowledging it
Speaker 1: and we were like, what the heck, Like this needs
Speaker 1: to be a thing, like we need to talk about
Speaker 1: so people know it's not okay, and like so people
Speaker 1: know they have like a place to come to. And
Speaker 1: so that's when we really kick started together as one,
Speaker 1: and we sold like a bunch and we made T
Speaker 1: shirts and we sold a bunch of T shirts and
Speaker 1: like everyone my school is wearing them. And we donated
Speaker 1: like over a few thousand dollars to UM, the leaders
Speaker 1: of the synagogue in the preschool, and that was an
Speaker 1: amazing moment because we grew up with them UM, and
Speaker 1: so that's kind of how we started our name. And
Speaker 1: then from there it became a club UM. And we figured,
Speaker 1: like how we kind of pitched the club to our
Speaker 1: principle is that there was like Chess club for people
Speaker 1: who played chess. There was Chinese club for people who
Speaker 1: are Chinese. There's UM Spanish club for people who speak Spanish,
Speaker 1: but there's no club for like everyone to go to
Speaker 1: if you want like a safe place. And so we
Speaker 1: created together as one, which was basically like a classroom.
Speaker 1: It was like the biggest club in school. Was crazy
Speaker 1: that it's like a classroom. What we're like I like
Speaker 1: one of our club meetings was you'd come and like
Speaker 1: just eat lunch with your friends and like everyone was
Speaker 1: talking and we'd like make nice posters saying nice things,
Speaker 1: and like we'd put them out for everything and then
Speaker 1: posted on with the Monday things like that. Um. And
Speaker 1: so it really got to be an amazinging organization at school.
Speaker 1: And then we're just about to expand to other schools
Speaker 1: and COVID hit and so that like just stopped everything, um,
Speaker 1: and so we're continuing to rebuild that from now. What's
Speaker 1: amazing about me gaining this following over Quarantine is that
Speaker 1: a lot of it has transferred over to Together as
Speaker 1: One and like, for example, there's it Together as One
Speaker 1: club in Paris, and like they'd have no idea about
Speaker 1: it if it wasn't for like starting on tiktoking, like
Speaker 1: I mean, like it kind of started on hate and
Speaker 1: like here bring in I know, turning into like that's awesome, right,
Speaker 1: so cool um. And so for people who want who
Speaker 1: are listening to this, if like this seems like something
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of, um, you can
Speaker 1: start one at your school if you go to Together's One.
Speaker 1: Well on Instagram, it's called t G a O movement
Speaker 1: because I was the only domain available. Um, we have
Speaker 1: like a whole power point slide for like starting a
Speaker 1: club and just we like are very we're like advocating
Speaker 1: for like kindness and just like being very inclusive and
Speaker 1: selling shirts and donating it and we will have like
Speaker 1: holes for which donation center we should do and we
Speaker 1: need kindness. We do, we really do. Back to your
Speaker 1: question before, which is like, like how how do I
Speaker 1: start something? If you like again you like just like
Speaker 1: Together as one, Like we just had to like start it,
Speaker 1: and like something happened and we took that and like
Speaker 1: turned it into kindness and turned it into love and
Speaker 1: like a super like great place for a community. Um,
Speaker 1: and so anyone who maybe if you don't have an
Speaker 1: idea like started Together as One club, like it's made
Speaker 1: and like it's only like we only wanted to get
Speaker 1: bigger and like better and more stuff can come from it.
Speaker 1: And I think we all need kindness. And I think
Speaker 1: it's awesome what you're doing with that in your platform,
Speaker 1: and you're not just doing it to post stupid stuff
Speaker 1: but to actually have a meaningful impact, And I think
Speaker 1: that's really incredible. You so much. It was like a
Speaker 1: thing where I when people see when I see people
Speaker 1: wearing like a together is One shirt, it's such a
Speaker 1: sign that like, okay, we have the same morals. And
Speaker 1: that's what was really important to us, um, just making
Speaker 1: sure we had that community of good people and like
Speaker 1: if you were being made fun of, like you could
Speaker 1: come together as one club and like it was like
Speaker 1: we were there for you. Um. I know I wish,
Speaker 1: I wish you could have could have joined with us,
Speaker 1: but I know I love that though. Thank Ellie, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on my podcast. I think this was
Speaker 1: an awesome conversation and I'm I'm so excited that everyone
Speaker 1: gets hearing me too. I'm so excited to come to
Speaker 1: New York and we can go to our shows and
Speaker 1: you can come to l A and I can we
Speaker 1: can get tormented by Paparazza. I'm just kidding you, Okay, Alright,
Speaker 1: you guys, I hope you love this episode as much
Speaker 1: as I do. I honestly had the best time talking
Speaker 1: to Allie. If you haven't already followed her on social media,
Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast and follow me on Instagram at
Speaker 1: its Sammy J. Thank you so much for listening. I
Speaker 1: hope this episode brightened your day just a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I will see you guys next week. Bye guys.