1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Oh, it is a Wednesday, but not any typical Wednesday. 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: We are loaded Penn State trying to steal Notre Dames 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: football coach. The Bears are upset because they're not being 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: fonned over by a national announcer. And the Dodgers remain 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: the best run organization in North America. I don't care 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: what league, I don't care if it's college. There is 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: no organization from research and development, drafting, scouting. The Dodgers 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: are unbelievable. It's an impeccable organization that's gotten to the 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: playoffs for twelve out of thirteen years. J Mack, you 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: looked at Milwaukee all year and they swept the Dodgers. 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: Right, they beat him six times, and so. 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: I thought, Oh, the Dodgers' bullpen all liability. Yeah, this 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: is a mismatchy Let's talk. Let's talk about it. Yoshi 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: last night, Yamamado, unbelievable. You know, the Brewers are in 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: trouble when they throw their ace Freddie Peralta, who was 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: virtually unbeatable at home, untouchable at home. They also get 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: a leadoff home run in the first inning, bought them 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: in the first and they get blown out. And this 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: thing should have been worse. The Dodgers were two for 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: eleven with runners in scoring position. They stranded ten batters. 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: How many times do they load the bases? It's all 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: about pitching, Yoshi, Yamamado, Blake Snell in Game one, and 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: by the way, Otawi and Glass now are coming up. 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: We worried about the Dodgers' bullpen against the Phillies. It 32 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: would be their undoing. Okay, the Brewers, it'll be their undoing. 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: We knew Cincinnati was overmatched. It's not Otani's not even 34 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: playing well. Otani's swinging at terrible pitches. So Milwaukee feels 35 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: out classed and the Dodgers have so many bats. I 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: know you all want to say it's about money. Steve Cohen, 37 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: isn't he like the richest the Mets owner of the 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: richest guy in baseball. The Yankees have plenty of money, 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: they don't spend it wisely. The Dodgers do a great job. 40 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, their menu is so deep, doesn't matter if 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: the milk make milkshake machine in back is broken. They 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: got somebody else stepping up. So o Tani can't hit 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: in the series. My here's tey Oscar Hernandez or Max Munsey. 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: And I think the Dodgers were very wobbly this year. 45 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: They blew all those games, bleue twenty six save opportunities. 46 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: But it's like the Chiefs dynasty, It's like the Brady 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: Belichick dynasty, It's like the Warriors dynasty. It is hard 48 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: to stay self motivated. Baseball is so long. It is 49 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: hard from day one to spring training to now to 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: stay motivated. And you know you're the best team and 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: the deepest team, and so the Dodgers treat the regular 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: season like a lot of us treated college. You know, 53 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: it's you do the bare minimum for most of the 54 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: school year, and then on the finals it's an all nighter. 55 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: And the Dodgers now are buttoned up outside of Otani, 56 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: who is just in an all times slump right now. 57 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: Two for his last twenty five started the Philly Series, 58 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: and Otani is swinging at bad pitches like he is 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: out of sorts. Otani has lost. He'll pick it up 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: in the mountain when they go back to Los Angeles. 61 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: But the bullpen liability, it doesn't matter. I mean, Blake 62 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Snell was so dominant in Game one, it was Cofax 63 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: level dominance that Yoshi last night was really really good, 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: but it didn't really compare. It's just the starting pitching 65 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: is just covering up all the warps, the Otani slump, 66 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: the runners in scoring position, left on base, And here 67 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: is Dave Roberts afterwards. 68 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: If you look at the construction of our roster currently, 69 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 4: you know the strength is starting pitching. And you know, 70 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: when you can have your most talented pitchers get the 71 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 4: most outs, then you're in a good spot. And right now, 72 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: you know all four of those guys are in a 73 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: really good headspace physically, their sound, and you know you 74 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: feel good about those guys starting a game and pushing 75 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: them in there prepared for this. 76 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: It is interesting, though, is that Dave Roberts regular on 77 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: the show, he pulled Blake Snell, who was even more dominant, 78 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: and then last night with Yamamato, who was dominant but 79 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: not quite as dominant. He just let him go, And 80 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of fascinating. I would have argued, 81 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: you let Snell go because he was so dominant, and 82 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: it was the first game of a series, and I 83 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't trust my bullpen if I could steal one in Milwaukee. 84 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: But once I had the win in Milwaukee and I 85 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: had a bigger, a four run lead, you could have 86 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: argued you could go to the bullpen. Last night, you 87 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: got a series lead, you had a four run cushion. 88 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: So I understood if he pulled Yoshi last night, he 89 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: didn't complete game. But the Snell was so dominant in 90 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: Game one. Just get that in the books. Don't worry 91 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: about tomorrow. Get the win first game of a series. 92 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: But you know, Dave Roberts has said, these are fifty 93 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: to fifty decisions. 94 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: You can go either way. 95 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: But the Dodgers starting pitching is covering up all these 96 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: runners left on runners in scoring position, can't drive him home. 97 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: O Tawni is completely lost. The starting pitching is that good. 98 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: So you know, when I. 99 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: Got into this business as a kid, and I'm talking 100 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: about when I was like seven, eight nine, ten years old. 101 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: The sportscasters that I was always attracted to as a 102 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: kid were the ones that were, like, honest, I'm not 103 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: even an eight nine ten years old. If my team 104 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: played bad, it was okay for the local sports and 105 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: now sir to say my team played bad. So I 106 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: almost always defend people in my business that are critical 107 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: of teams even if they win, because a lot of 108 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of local you know there there 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: there's some palm palm waving and everything. Sonny and Rosy 110 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: So Troy Aigman apparently did not did not hand out 111 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: flowers after the Bears and Caleb Williams just beat Washington. 112 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: So here's what Ben Johnson said about a former Fox 113 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: broadcasters comments. 114 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 5: It's sounded like from that game the other night, a 115 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 5: few people weren't particularly pleased with how we're winning right now. 116 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 5: So that's the I woke up this morning, and you know, 117 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 5: my kids were watching the second half before school, and 118 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 5: so I heard some of the commentary. But listen, in 119 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 5: this league, anyway you can find a way to win 120 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 5: is a big deal. 121 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: Of course it is. 122 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: But the Bears are three and two, and they're a 123 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: blocked kick and a fumble from being one and four. 124 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: And Haleb Williams, who you know I loved out of college, 125 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: is a work in progress. 126 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: Right now. He remains dead. 127 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: Last in the NFL an expected completion percentage, what is that? 128 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: That's when the game's over people look at tape. Translation, 129 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: he should be completing seventy two percent of his throws. 130 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: He's at sixty one and a half. Their leady leaving 131 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: a lot of completions on the floor. So coming out 132 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: of college, the concerns on Caleb Williams were consistent accuracy 133 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: still a problem in the NFL, and could he play 134 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: with instructure. Now he's getting better at that, but he's 135 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: still last in the NFL getting the ball out of 136 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: his hands. He holds the ball too long, and he's 137 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: not consistently accurate. So year two in the NFL with 138 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: a great offensive young coach, still problems. Remember that video 139 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: that came out in camp when Caleb Williams you all 140 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: told me to downplay it. Immedia is going overboard When 141 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: he had that moment, he's thrown into a net and 142 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: he got so upset at himself because he badly missed 143 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: a throw from eight feet away. 144 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: It's a real thing. 145 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: This was the concern out of college, he's still missing 146 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: too many throws. This is not subjective, it's objective. It's 147 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: happening in front of you. All the data tells you this. 148 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: So if an announcer is willing to say unpopular things, 149 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm here for it. So, you know, it's just very 150 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: interesting to me that a team that's three and two, 151 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: and for the record, you were watching it, Washington is 152 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: driving for the win in the cover and they fumbled 153 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: it bad handoff. So and even on the Bears winning 154 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: drive on Monday, Caleb had one completion. It was DeAndre 155 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: Swift's game. We talked about this on Tuesday morning. It 156 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: was about DeAndre Swift and the offensive line creating massive holes. 157 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: So if you watch Jalen, Jayden Daniels, and Caleb Williams 158 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: play on Monday, Jayden was the more accurate quarterback. He's 159 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: operationally accuracy at this point. He's a little more refined. 160 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: You kind of know what you're getting with Jay Daniels 161 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: if he's healthy. You don't quite know what you're getting 162 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams. Yes, I agree, you're three and two. Celebrated. 163 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: I said it on Tuesday after the win I'm like, 164 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: it's the Bears. They won on the road, they won 165 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: a close game. You can see the coaching. There's a 166 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: touchdown difference Caleb last year Caleb this year. Eighteen to 167 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: twenty five points a game. But this idea that everybody's 168 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: supposed to fall in line. Caleb is still struggling with accuracy. 169 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: He is missing guys within twelve yards, He's holding the 170 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: ball too long. And these were the concerns out of college, 171 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: consistent accuracy, playing within structure. Now, I do think the 172 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: structure element he's getting better at. I do think he 173 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: could run more often than he's running. So I think 174 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Caleb deserves credit for that. When you're as gifted as him, 175 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: it's very easy to take off. Lamar Jackson had to 176 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: get hit a few times. By year four, Lamar didn't 177 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: run as much Caleb or and Caleb could for a 178 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 1: lot of yards. Caleb is doing a better job to 179 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: plan structure. I will defend him all day on that. 180 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: But the accuracy thing, they're leaving some completions out there. 181 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: They're there a lot little swing passes. So here's been 182 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: on Ben Johnson about what he told Caleb on training 183 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: camp and how he was going to coach him this year. 184 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 6: Standard has been set, the bar has been set high. 185 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 6: He has said that he wants to be not just 186 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 6: one of the best top five quarterbacks in this league, 187 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 6: but he wants to have a legacy that lasts for 188 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 6: a long time. And so we're coaching him that way. 189 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 6: We're approaching it that way. That's not going to change. 190 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 6: Is he going to be a finished product here year two? 191 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: No? 192 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not a finished product. 193 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: And that's why a national broadcaster should say, nice win, 194 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of work here. Like I know, 195 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: when I feel an announcer is being overly negative, I've 196 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: heard that before. But my taking all these national broadcasters, 197 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: they'd rather be optimistic and they'd rather be positive. I 198 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: think it's refreshing when any of them can go that's 199 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: not good enough. Yet they won, but they're leaving a 200 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: lot on the floor, a lot on the table. I 201 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: appreciate that. I don't. 202 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't need you. 203 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: To blow smoke. I'm not looking for rainbows and pots 204 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: of gold. Just give me honesty, right, Like I'm a 205 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: grown up. I remember again, when I was a kid, 206 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: when I was eight, nine, ten years old, I liked 207 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: Howard Cosell. I like the local sportscasters that I thought 208 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: were telling me the truth, not blowing smoke, which I 209 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: didn't even know blowing smoke meant. Then maybe my sister 210 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: smoking behind the house. So just just be honest. I'm 211 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: good with it. I don't need rainbows. J Mac James Franklin, 212 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: Penn State coach out. Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame coach. 213 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: Is being is being wooed. 214 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 7: Oh Nitney Lion, no shot whatsoever as a downgrade from 215 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 7: Notre Dame to Penn State. No disrespect to the folks 216 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 7: in Happy Valley, but come on, that's a Marcus stream 217 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 7: is not doing. His next stop will be the NFL calling. 218 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: Well, there's nothing like a little distraction during USC one. 219 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 7: Yes, oh I like that. 220 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: So there are you know, it's one of the things 221 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: that's cool about October. It's my favorite month by far. 222 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: The weather turns, it's nice and cool, you can wear 223 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: the jackets. But the other thing now is in these 224 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: baseball series, it is it is the time unless you're 225 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: a diehard, a seam head, it is the time where 226 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: us casuals who don't break down the games during the 227 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: regular season that you really dive deep. I said this 228 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: on Monday, I had I had the baseball game on 229 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: the big screen, and I'm watching on you know, I'm 230 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: watching on the smaller screens. I'm watching football. Is one 231 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: of the things that is remarkable about the Dodgers. It's 232 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: really remarkable is anytime there's a dynasty, and right now 233 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. Look. I mean, good luck to the Mariners, 234 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: but the Mariners are a little bit like the Brewers. 235 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: They're really solid, don't have a lot of holes, but 236 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: don't have a ton of star power. When Freddy Peralta 237 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: goes last night and the Dodgers are getting runners on 238 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: the base, Milwaukee's doing everything they can. They're out classed. 239 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: Their manager knows it. But there's something about the Dodgers 240 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: that people do not talk about, and I want to 241 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: talk about that next. 242 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 243 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 2: and Noone Eastern non a em Pacific on Fox Sports 244 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app Hi. This is Jay. 245 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 8: I'm the producer of the Pauli and Toni Fusco Show. 246 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 8: Usually in these promos they ask you to listen to 247 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 8: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen 248 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 8: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 249 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 8: have the dumbest takes on sports, imagicable. Don't listen to 250 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 8: the show so it can get Camps. 251 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: Who wha, what the hell are you doing our studio? 252 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 7: Get him, Paul, Ignore that fool. 253 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 9: Listen to the Pauline Tony Fusco Show on the iHeartRadio 254 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 9: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 255 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: He's still moving. 256 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: Pro teams, right. 257 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: And so I was like a Cincinnati Red in the 258 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: Kansas City Royal and a Pittsburgh Pirate and a Philadelphia 259 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: Philly fan. And my first sports memory is going to 260 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: watch Reggie Jackson the Yankee bus pull up at the 261 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: King Dome. That's one of my first big sports memories. 262 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: I projected most of my love for sports because the 263 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest, Seattle didn't have pro teams until like seventy six, 264 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: seventy seven, didn't have the Mariners until then, didn't have 265 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: the Seahawks until then. I was more of a college fan, 266 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: and so like I've always looked at the whole menu 267 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: of sports in this country. 268 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: I don't really think I'm a fan of a particular region. 269 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: People called me a Patriots Homer when I used to 270 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: work at the other place because I lived in Connecticut. 271 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: But the minute the Patriots were bad, I stopped talking 272 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: about him. I think I was more of a Brady fan. 273 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: So I like greatness, I like efficiency, I like well 274 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: run businesses. So having lived in southern California, I think 275 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I bang on the Lakers all the time. 276 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't think the Lakers have been well run. I 277 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: don't think the Lakers have been well run. I don't 278 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: always think USC has been well run. I think the 279 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: Rams are well run, and I think the Dodgers are 280 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: the best run team I've ever seen. Yes, money matters, 281 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: but Otawi last year didn't pitch as the Dodgers won 282 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: the World Series and didn't have a very good postseason. 283 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: This year we can't hit at all. So they have 284 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: not been winning in the postseason because of Otani. He's 285 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: been a great regular season player. But I mean, I 286 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: don't like Listen, the Browns and the Jets are playing 287 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: in Week ten, All pass you knock yourself out. I'm 288 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: not watching. So it's not about money. It's payroll creativity, 289 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: it's scouting, it's getting the right money on the right, people. 290 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: Yankees have a ton of money. They're over indexed on 291 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: home runs. Mets have a ton of money. They're the Mets, 292 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: so they'll give you an example. Tommy edmund was in 293 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: Saint Louis. The Cardinals had him. He was a good 294 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: defensive player who hit about two sixty five. The Dodgers 295 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: bring him in, pay him a little more. Last year 296 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: is the NLCSMVP and he's hitting three eighteen in the playoffs. 297 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: Tommy Edmunds was available for everybody. Anybody could have had 298 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: Tommy edmund Toronto and Seattle both had tay Oscar Hernandez. 299 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: Seattle let him go after a year. He's a monster 300 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: for the Dodger. Is anybody more consistent? Big games? Freddy 301 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Freeman and Taoscar Hernandez, They're great, and he decided last year, 302 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: I'll stay with the Dodgers and take less money. Max 303 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: Munsey was so bad with the A's, who are essentially 304 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: a Triple A baseball team. He was with him two years. 305 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: The A's let him go. The A's let Max Munty go. 306 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: Last night he had another home run. So, like Max Munsey, 307 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Tommy Edmund, Taskar Hernandez, the whole sport could have him. 308 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: Well, oh, Tawni. I'm not saying money doesn't matter. 309 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: But Otawi has not been the reason they're winning last 310 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: year's World Series and they'll their favor to win this year's. 311 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: He not the reason. He can't hit. 312 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: He is lost at the plate right now. I mean 313 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: he is swinging a bad stuff and baseball does this 314 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: like golf, a lot of downtime stuff gets into your head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 315 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: They have bid people for Freddie Freeman Hall of Famer, absolutely, 316 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: but they were ahead of everybody on Roki, Sazaki and 317 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: Yamamoto looking at those guys for years before they brought 318 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: him over. I said on the air multiple times, I 319 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: think three years before o Taani, he was with the 320 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: Angels three years earlier, and the Dodgers were moving the 321 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: chess pieces and making the contacts to get him legally. 322 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: So it's not just about the money. The Mets have it. 323 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: The Astros have it. Astros are a really well run organization. 324 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: They just had a ton of injuries this year. But 325 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: when I watched the Dodgers, I appreciate there's all these 326 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: guys on this roster. Like the Yankees have money, they're 327 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: totally uneven. They don't run the bases particularly well. They 328 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: strike out too much, over indexed on home runs. Now 329 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: they had a Garrett Cole injury and that set them back. 330 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: Clearly. 331 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: If Max Freed and Garrett Cole are going into a series, 332 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: it can beat anybody. But when you watch the Dodgers 333 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: and the Yankees play last year when Cole wasn't pitching, 334 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: Yankees looked like an American League Central team. They look 335 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: like a mid payroll team. They don't spend their money 336 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: wisely enough. The Dodgeman's go. Max Munsey was let go. 337 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: He was awful with the A's. The Dodgers found something 338 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: and it works. So it's it's it's easy, it's funny. 339 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: Yankee fans loved it when they would dominate the Hot 340 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: Stove League, when they would just nobody else could afford 341 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: CEC's about you. Remember Initially CC was like, I don't 342 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: know if I want to go pitch there, and they're 343 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: just like, all right, we're gonna we're gonna overpay or 344 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: pay above. 345 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: The market, right like. 346 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: And now CC is is a great old time Yankee 347 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: and he loved being a Yankee. 348 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 3: But it's not just about that. 349 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: They do so many things well, I mean they had 350 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: a major bullpen issue this year. Major typical Dodgers. They 351 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: figure it out once they get to September. 352 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: In October. J Mack with the news. No, no, turn 353 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: on the news. 354 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News. 355 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 7: All right, Colin, let's start with Thursday night football, Bengals Steelers. 356 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 7: They're calling it the Icy Hot Bowl. Yes, that's a thing. 357 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 7: Two quarterbacks over forty years old, a couple of fossils 358 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 7: back there in the pocket who can't move around. We 359 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 7: heard Mike Tomlin take a couple jet as at the 360 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 7: trade of Flacco. Well, now, Joe Flacco has responded saying, 361 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 7: like Tomlin, he's just doing gamesmanship out there. 362 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate old guys, and you know what I like. 363 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Rodgers and Flacco have very different personalities. 364 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Both work, but Flacco loves life. 365 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 6: You know. 366 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: Flacco is just so appreciative and grateful for the opportunity 367 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: to still play. And there is value when you can 368 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: bring a guy in. Josh Dobbs had this that they're 369 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: so smart, Flacco and Josh dock you could bring him in. 370 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: Here's two practices and they've got it figured out, which 371 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: is really a skill. In this league, there's a lot 372 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: of guys that can't see the field, a lot of 373 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: guys that takes ramping and ramping and ramping. I root 374 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 1: for Flacco. And for the record, Joe Flacco has earned 375 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: every penny he's made in this league. You know what meant, 376 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: he's been around. That's a lot of practices, that's a 377 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: lot of getting banged on, and he's incredibly joyful guy. 378 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: I just like Joe Flacco. 379 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 7: I know a lot of people didn't watch Packers Bengals. 380 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 7: It was ugly early, right ten nothing at the half. 381 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 7: Bengals had like twenty yards at one point in the 382 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 7: first half of Packers had like two forty colin adjustments. 383 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 7: At halftime, Flacco looked good, said I'm just gonna get 384 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 7: the ball to Chasin Higgins. They covered the spread, they 385 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 7: had a chance to get the ball back down. I 386 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 7: think it was six late in the game, or maybe eight. 387 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 7: But I'm just I like Flacco and the Bengals here 388 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 7: on Thursday night to cover five and a half. It's 389 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 7: not just Steelers hating. I think this game is a 390 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 7: lot more interesting than people think it's gonna be. All right, 391 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 7: all right, let's move on Colin to Bijon Robinson emerging 392 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 7: is probably the best running back in the NFL. I 393 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 7: think he's surpassed McCaffrey, James Cook. I mean, what a 394 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 7: year he's having. Monday Night, he was incredible. He's on 395 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 7: track to break the NFL record for yards from scrimmage. Colin, 396 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 7: we we got the numbers year. Obviously, Marshall Falk has 397 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 7: had one of the great seasons ever. You see Chris Johnson, 398 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 7: Christian McAffrey vjon Is on face for twenty seven hundred 399 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 7: and ninety five yards, which had topped this list by 400 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 7: over two hundred. 401 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I remember a couple of years ago, nobody's paying running backs. 402 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: Running Backs are disappearing. Now most of your first round 403 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: running backs really become stars. Sakuon Barkley, Zeke, Bjean Robbinson, 404 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: who didn't have a very good first year with I 405 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: think it was Arthur Smith. They just they didn't use 406 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: him a lot. I remember when he got drafted. I've 407 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: said this on the air multiple times. I had a 408 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: general manager tell me he reminded him of Ladanian Tomlinson, 409 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: not stylistically but character quality guy. He said, Jean is 410 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: the safest player in this draft. He said, nobody will 411 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: pick him number one. He is the safest player in 412 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: this draft. He goes, catch it, block, run, character, doesn't fumble. 413 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: Great locker room guy. He is just a this idea 414 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: that running backs were going to dry up. Running Backs 415 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: have huge value in one of the things we talk 416 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: about all the time in this league. A real skill 417 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: is having a lead, eating the clock up and not 418 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: giving it back to a Mahomes or a Baker Mayfield 419 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: or right. So, how do you beat Tampa? Because Baker's 420 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: great if he gets the last drive, the way to 421 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: beat Tampa because you'll stay close to Tampa if you're Atlanta. 422 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: He's giving Vjon Robbinson the ball six times on that 423 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: final drive and Baker sits on the bench and never 424 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: gets the ball back. So when it's a big quarterback league, 425 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: the value in the running back is great. Quarterbacks usually 426 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: have a lead with eight minutes to seven minutes to 427 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: go on a football game. That's why they're great quarterbacks. 428 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: How do you close it out? You don't lean on 429 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback, You lean on the star running back. So 430 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: bijon really good teams. I mean, Josh Allen's numbers got better, 431 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: his efficiency got better when he got James Cook. He 432 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: didn't have to be Superman to close out games. 433 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I will just say Colin, you remember I bet 434 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 7: on the Falcons against the Panthers. Where was b Jon 435 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 7: Robinson against the Carolina Panthers. He vanishes too much sometimes 436 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 7: in these outdoor games. This week Atlanta, they're at San 437 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 7: Francisco game. I know San Franz beat up. I mean, 438 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 7: no Warner. They should attack the linebackers and coverage should 439 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 7: be a big game for Bijon, But I need him 440 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 7: to be a little more consistent. Colonies. I don't want 441 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 7: to say to boom or bust, but you know he 442 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 7: has his eighty one yard play and then it's just 443 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 7: a lot of he didn't do much otherwise. So I 444 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 7: need consistency from Bijon. You like the Falcons this league 445 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 7: or no? 446 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: Uh no, I don't. I like the Niners, Oh I do. 447 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some points in this I 448 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a high scoring game. I 449 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: like the Niners in a high scoring game. 450 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 3: To beat Atlanta. You get Atlanta Dome team out. 451 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: West, and then you get San Francisco who now no Warner, 452 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: no Bosa, Sola can only play, you know so much 453 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: smoking mirrors. I think this is going to be one 454 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: of those games we talk about. It's wildly entertaining. Remember 455 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: when Pittsburgh and the Jets played early in the year 456 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: at the one o'clock win, Like, what a wild game. 457 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: I think it's it's got a chance to be one 458 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: of those, like thirty twenty seven games back in for 459 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: Seattle Tampa was that. 460 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: But you have two great quarterbacks. 461 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 7: My problem with Atlanta. Remember the last time they beat 462 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 7: the Vikings on Sunday Night football. I was like, twenty 463 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 7: two six dominant Vike. Here we go, Falcons, We're good. 464 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 7: The next week they get smashed by Carolina, like out 465 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 7: of some of these young teams. Don't know how to 466 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 7: handle success. Final story Dallas Cowboys, Colin and you know 467 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 7: this George Pickens guy, he's playing pretty damn good. Jerry 468 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 7: Jones very excited about how he's filled the void when 469 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 7: Ceedee Lamb went down. Here's Jerry talking about how George 470 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 7: Pickens has been an inspiration to the Cowboys. 471 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 10: I won't speak for the players, but he is a 472 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 10: great teammate in my mind. And of course when we 473 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 10: got him, there was some issue with well there might 474 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 10: be something with the way he is personality. I can't 475 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 10: tell you how Brad ariam personally for George because he 476 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 10: is absolutely as exciting as he's been on the field 477 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 10: for us. He's been that kind of team mate and 478 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 10: he's in inspirational. 479 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: He's been great. 480 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: He was a little bit of a I would say, 481 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: highly emotional young player in Pittsburgh, a little bit of drama. 482 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 1: He's been a great cowboy and you got to get 483 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: played third round pick for this guy. I thought he 484 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: was a one and donner because of you know, but 485 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: he's had emotional restraint, He's gotten better. It feels like 486 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: every couple of weeks Dak clearly likes him. Now, the 487 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: question is when Ceedee Lamb comes back, He's not going 488 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: to get all the attention. 489 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: He's not going to get all the. 490 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: Glow because Ceed's a better CD creates separation that Pickens doesn't. 491 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: Pickens just has a big catching radius. So when CD 492 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: comes back and George Pickens doesn't get the looks, that's 493 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: what we'll see, the maturity and how he handles it. 494 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: Because Ced is a true classic, dominant top six receiver 495 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: in the league. You gotta target him twelve times a 496 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: game you have to I. 497 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 7: Will add that that's all accurate. 498 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 10: Colin. 499 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 7: Remember in a contract here at Fox, you pulled me aside. 500 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 7: You're like Jay Max. 501 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 3: Tighten it up. 502 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 7: No more idiotic behavior, no more hot takes, settle down. 503 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 7: This is a contract here for Pickens. He's out there 504 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 7: trying to get a huge money offer to be number 505 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 7: one somewhere. He's going to fall in line, and yes, 506 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 7: the inspiration J. 507 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: Mcklow, Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by 508 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: the herd Line news. 509 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: So Joel Klatt a lot of college football talk for 510 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: ten fifteen minutes. 511 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 3: Top of next hour. 512 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: I saw this story they were talking about in this 513 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: story about how James Franklin had a forty five million 514 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: dollar buyout at Penn State. And then I saw another 515 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: story where Penn State is reportedly going to pursue Notre 516 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: Dame's Marcus Freeman. Freeman's a great coach. That's the smart move, 517 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti. I don't know, Freeman, feels like you got 518 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: twenty years. But here's what's funny about it. 519 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: Notre Dame. 520 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: Just spend the money double Marcus Freeman's contract, because if 521 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: I was Penn State, I would pay fifteen million dollars 522 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: a year to get Marcus Freeman. Penn State football last 523 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: year made two hundred and forty million. Is the coach 524 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: worth fifteen million dollars? Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely Notre Dame 525 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: step up and pay it. I remember when the Nia 526 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: Well a few years ago, nil Transfer Portal. It's going 527 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: to ruin the sport, and I said, if you want 528 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: to compete, you'll have to spend money. All you schools 529 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: have money. Penn State right now is doing a seven 530 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: hundred million dollar Beaver Stadium upgrade. They paid forty five 531 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: million dollars to get rid of James Franklin, and they 532 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: would pay one hundred million dollars to get Marcus Freeman. 533 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: It's just like in life, folks, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, 534 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: and the oligarchs. They'll spend four trillion dollars on AI 535 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: development over the next decade, But yet our healthcare system 536 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: often doesn't take care of the very poorest, sickest, and 537 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: weakest countries. Universities, institutions, governments always have the money. They 538 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: always have the money. I grew up in Seattle. Seattle 539 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: is a top ten GDP city in the country. Starbucks, 540 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: big Money, Microsoft uski's football program nil average average, not 541 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: as good as Texas Tech, which I'm not even sure 542 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: that area has a Panera bread. Honestly, Seattle has decided 543 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: we're we're a We're an NFL city and a Mariner city, 544 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: and we like soccer and Husky football. 545 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: They're they're, they're it's it's they're. 546 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: Given some money. Oregon gives a lot more. In little 547 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: tiny Eugene, Phil Knights totally committed. So when I see 548 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: this story about Marcus Freeman and Penn State, it's a 549 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: real story by real reporters. And if I'm Notre Dame today, 550 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: I call Marcus Freeman's agent. I don't talk to Marcus. 551 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Marcus is preparing for USC. I just pay whatever I 552 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: gotta pay, if I have to rip his contract up 553 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: and give him a new contract. That dude's got the look, 554 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: the vibe, the recruiting, that touch the field, the toughness. 555 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: That is what a college football coach is. And and 556 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: and Penn State should go after him. I mean, Penn 557 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: State took Ohio State's best coordinator. I'd go after Marcus 558 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: Freeman too. You don't have to pay Signetti at Indiana. 559 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: What you're going to have to pay Marcus Freeman. So 560 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: by all means, Penn State go after him, notre name, 561 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: don't let him go. I you know, listen, Los Angeles. 562 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: USC and UCLA are both in Los Angeles. They both 563 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: have billionaires all over their alumni. One of them USC 564 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: is committed to football. UCLA you could argue, I think 565 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: I read a story Ucla USC had the most. Maybe 566 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 1: it was a USC had the most people worth thirty 567 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: million plus net worth in the country, and a lot. 568 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: Of them they like football. 569 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: So the James Franklin firing, I wouldn't have done it 570 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: yet because if the interim guy wins five games and 571 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: a cruddy Bowl game, and all of a sudden the 572 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: players revolt. If you don't hire the interim guy, I 573 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: always worry about the substitute teacher. Everybody loves them rule. 574 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: Here was Bruce Feldman earlier this week on the Franklin firing. 575 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 11: Coming off the loss at home to Oregon, you had 576 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 11: a just an abysmal performance out here in LA that 577 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 11: was a gut punch. They come back home. The atmosphere 578 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 11: in Happy Valley was really subdued and down, and then 579 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 11: they play a Northwestern program that's not that good either 580 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 11: and they lose that game. It felt like for everybody 581 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 11: involved it was time to make a change. 582 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: And it didn't matter what it costs. 583 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: Penn State had the money, and Notre Dame has the money, 584 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: and UCLA has a nine point seven billion dollar billion 585 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: dollar endowment. If you want to win in football, call 586 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: Nick Saban. Want to come out warm weather, Yeah, we'll 587 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: pay for it. Everybody's got the money, and we could 588 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: solve a lot of healthcare issues. We got the money. 589 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl bubbles around the corner. Sean McDermott acknowledging on 590 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: the bye week, we may need to tear it up 591 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: and start over. 592 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 593 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: and Noone Eastern not Am Pacific Into the series. 594 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 7: Coverage begins at seven pm Eastern, four pm Pacific tonight 595 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 7: on FS one. 596 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: Apparently brooms are moving at Costco. A lot of brooms 597 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: being purchased in the Pacific Northwest target Costco. 598 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: We're running out of brooms. 599 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So the everything I was talking about the Dodgers 600 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: and fans, Oh they got all this money. Nobody's disputing 601 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: that money matters. 602 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: Nobody. 603 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: You know, you'd rather have a lot of money than 604 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: no money. Right, It doesn't mean there's a lot of 605 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: happiness over a certain threshold, but you can waste a 606 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: lot of money too. Here's another thing about the Dodgers. 607 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: They stole Mookie Bets from the Red Sox. Mookie Bets 608 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: was available, he was expensive. But before Otani, I mean, 609 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: there's an argument Mooky is the most complete player in baseball. 610 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: When you watch him play shortstop like you would never 611 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: know he could also play outfield. He didn't have a 612 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: very good year until September and then he caught fire. 613 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: But Mookie Bets was available. He was available to a 614 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: lot of people, and the Dodgers essentially gave the Red 615 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: Sox picks or players, and none of the players did much. 616 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: So the minor league guys didn't do anything. 617 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: You can keep saying again, Max Munsey, A's released him. 618 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: A's were like, yeah, it's it's not gonna it's no good. 619 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: He can't play. He was hitting like less than two hundred. 620 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: He goes to the Dodgers and here's Max Munsey, who's 621 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: just I mean, he's been hitting ballms for years in 622 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and ta Oscar Hernandez was available to the 623 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: market and then when he got to La tay Oskar's like, yeah, 624 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play for less. So Tommy Edmund Saint Louis 625 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: had him, didn't want to pay him. He was a 626 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: two to sixty five hitter. It's a good defensive player. 627 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: Dodgers NLCSMVP. So when you're watching this thing and they 628 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: are really Andrew Friedman was the GM in Tampa years 629 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: and years ago, when Tampa got to a World Series 630 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: and Tampa was really good, and you're like, how they 631 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: have no money? How did Andrew Friedman build up those 632 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: Tampa teams? He didn't have the Dodgers payroll. He won 633 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: in a division with the Yankees and the Red Sox 634 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: and Toronto, big money Boston, Toronto, which I think is 635 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: probably the richest city in Canada, the Yankee all that money. 636 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: Andrew Friedman was making the playoffs. So you took his 637 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: brain power, you put him with a big bankroll, and 638 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: they just don't miss a lot. They could have had 639 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: Manny Machado, they passed on him. They could have paid 640 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: for him. Zach Grinky years and years ago, they're like, no, no, no, 641 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: I think he went to Arizona. They've had opportunities to 642 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: buy a their plan. They buy the right dudes. Freddie 643 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: Freeman got the right dude. Great in the locker room, 644 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: mo Key Betts show, Hey Otani, and again Otani is 645 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: not hit. The last two postseasons, they're not winning because 646 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: of Otani. He has been a monster in the regular season. 647 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: He can't hit right now. 648 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: He is just lost. 649 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So I do this about every three or four weeks, 650 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: and it's difficult. I think there's one great team in 651 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: the NFL, and then I think there's another team that's 652 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: really really good. But it's time for my Super Bowl bubble, 653 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: and like a couple of these teams right now have 654 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: got to get better at things. But I always put 655 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: about six or seven teams in. I do think Philadelphia 656 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: will right the ship at least for the running game, 657 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: and I do think bow Knicks, as the season progresses, 658 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 1: will get more consistent. But right now my Super Bowl bubble, 659 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: the teams I think could end up at a Super Bowl, 660 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't. 661 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 3: Know if they can win it. 662 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: I think they can end up there Kansas City, Tampa, Philadelphia, Detroit, Seattle, 663 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: Green Bay, and Denver. I'm not saying bow Knicks is 664 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: going to hoist a trophy. I think those teams either 665 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: have the coach, the roster, the defensive front, the O line, 666 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: and then I would put the Colts, the Rams, San Francisco, 667 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: and the Bills. Now in three to four weeks, when 668 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: Hampton's back and Joe Alter back for the Chargers, that's 669 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: not their reality now. Right now, Chargers are missing both 670 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: tackles and I have a third string running back. 671 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 3: The Rams would maybe. 672 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: Be in it, but they lost Puka Nakula and they 673 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: are very reliant on Poqua Nakula in big downs. So 674 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: San Francisco I think they're going to get healthier offensively. 675 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: They get Piarsol back and I You back and Kittle. 676 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: I think San Francisco I don't know if they can 677 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: hoist a trophy. But rock Perty's coming back, so I'm 678 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna put them on the edges. I didn't put Pittsburgh yet. Listen, 679 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's beating bad quarterbacks. The one really good team they played, 680 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: they got routed. They got routed by Seattle at home. 681 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: So Pittsburgh needs to win a couple more games. But 682 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: in terms of Kansas City, I don't know what everybody 683 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: else is watching. I mean the eye test they are 684 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: fast offensively, and they have the best head coach quarterback 685 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: to five coordinator combo in the sport. Here's Matt Hasselback 686 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: earlier this week. 687 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 12: I'm the Chiefs And if you're starting quarterbacks, one of 688 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 12: the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game ever, and 689 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 12: then you've got the best offensive play caller designer in 690 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 12: our era and Andy Reid, Like, literally, how are you 691 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 12: gonna like? 692 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 9: That gives me confidence as a player. That gives me 693 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 9: confidence as a locker room and as a defense, like 694 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 9: you got Mahomes over here running like speed option, like 695 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 9: like he's Vince Young or something like you got to 696 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 9: defend it all. You can tell that this is a team. 697 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 9: There's no panic, there's no players only meetings there. You 698 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 9: know they're they're three and three. This guy's not falling. 699 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 9: You know they're like, hey, we're going to we're gonna 700 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 9: go Want to know this week, you know we'll probably 701 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 9: look a game out. 702 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 6: We're good. 703 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 1: I will say Tampa is an interesting team because they're 704 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: five and one but needed a last second field goal 705 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: to beat the Jets, and four of their five wins 706 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: have come with a you know, within a field goal 707 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: or last Now they're banged up, so they're gonna get 708 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: Chris Godwin back, Mike Evans back, Bucky Irving back. So 709 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: I think you're not seeing the best of Tampa's personnel, 710 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: and I still have them in the bubble. I think 711 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: there's tremendous value on winning close games and also something 712 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: to remember teams EBB and Flow. The Chargers look great, 713 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: then they fell apart physically. 714 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: Now they're not that good. I didn't put them in 715 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 3: my top ten. 716 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: Joe alt Returns at left tackle, Hampton Returns. I think 717 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: they're a top ten team. San Francisco, I listen, I 718 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: have Seattle in the Super Bowl bubble that has been 719 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: Now you say, what about New England. 720 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 3: I like what New England's doing, but. 721 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: They got they got whacked by Pittsburgh, and I don't 722 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: have Pittsburgh here, So I think New England's one of 723 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: those teams I need more. I need more from New England. 724 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: I need more from Pittsburgh. But if you're wondering where 725 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: New England is, I think Patriot fans know this is 726 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: a really cool spot to be in. But let's put 727 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: about four or five more wins down. You know, Drake 728 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: May's still young, developing and with Pittsburgh again, they got 729 00:37:54,560 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: absolutely routed special teams mistakes at home against Seattle. And 730 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are pointing to Denver 731 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: and bow Knicks. 732 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 733 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: I think Bo Nicks may not be a great deep 734 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: ball thrower. But the Denver Broncos lead the NFL. They 735 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: protect their quarterback better than anybody and get after years 736 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: better than anybody. 737 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 3: That is. 738 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,479 Speaker 1: That's something that wins in January. That wins in cold weather. 739 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 1: Great old line play, great pass rush, wins in January. 740 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: I never but into the Dolphins when they get off 741 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: of these hot starts and throw it over the top. 742 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 3: That's not January football. So there's two lead. 743 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: There's two seasons pre Thanksgiving and post Thanksgiving, and the 744 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: football changes. Remember we talked about this a couple of 745 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Why were there fifteen quarterbacks with one hundred 746 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: plus passer rating? 747 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 3: And I said the weather. 748 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: It was eighty degrees in Buffalo, Chicago had good Way, Chicago, Buffalo, Baltimore. 749 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 1: Weather's getting real chilly now. So things are going to change. 750 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 3: Jmax. 751 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: Anybody in or out of the Super Bowl bubble, New England, 752 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh didn't make it for me. 753 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 3: I had your Niners, so you know what I like 754 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 3: to do. 755 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 7: Instantly look at the gambling onds you could see on 756 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 7: the screen there Buffalo, who on the outside has the 757 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 7: same odds to win the Super Bowl as Kansas City. 758 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 7: I think you're a little low on Buffalo. I know 759 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 7: they just lost and didn't look great to Atlanta. But 760 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 7: the other team you mentioned Pittsburgh, and I was kind 761 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 7: of scoffing, like, oh, come on, they're junk. Pittsburgh and 762 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 7: Seattle have the same Super Bowl odds, Colin, which I 763 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 7: thought was surprising. I don't think Pittsburgh's great. The one 764 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 7: team you don't have in the top twelve are the 765 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 7: Washington Commanders, who at plus twenty five hundred have the 766 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 7: same odds as San Francisco. Washington gets Terry mclorinback. Literally, 767 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 7: he's practicing right now with it with the team. 768 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 769 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: By the way, Cowboys Commanders this weekend kind of spicy. 770 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: That's got Tampa Seattle written all over, and that's got 771 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: thirty three thirty. I looked at the over under this morning. 772 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: It's a little low. Cowboys Commanders could be a wildly, 773 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: wildly entertaining game. 774 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 3: Hour two. Be happy Dodger fans doesn't get better than this.