Speaker 1: Well, well, well, the basketball keeps coming. I'm doing my
Speaker 1: best Miles Gray here, guys, the basketball keeps coming. The
Speaker 1: gods of the NBA keeps smiling on us. We got
Speaker 1: trade deadline madness all around the NBA. We'll discuss some
Speaker 1: of the latest action. Uh, there's only about twenty eight
Speaker 1: games left in the season, which is wild. How did
Speaker 1: that happen? How? How is that possible? We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: the state of the Houston Rockets with ten year NBA Vett,
Speaker 1: current Rockets analyst. Host of the podcast NBA Rookie Life,
Speaker 1: Ryan Hollins on today's episode, I'm Jack O'Brien and I'm
Speaker 1: Jebory Davis kin for Milesbury, and this is still Miles
Speaker 1: and Jack Gott Matt Boosts nailed it, Bryan, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us with our usual
Speaker 1: host out on paternity leave. But we're we're thrilled to
Speaker 1: have you in here. Hosted the NBA Rookie Life podcast
Speaker 1: of the NBA and I heart drafted in oh six
Speaker 1: by the Bobcats. Played for the Bobcats, Maps, Wolves, Cats, Celtics, Clippers, Wizards, Grizzlies.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Man? How are you doing. What's going on? Guys?
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Absolutely, We're thrilled to have you.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on being an amazing athlete. That's cool to have
Speaker 1: played in the n b A I did not play
Speaker 1: in the NBA, Jabari, I don't. I don't think you
Speaker 1: didn't play in the NBA, did you? Honestly, my coach
Speaker 1: has had it out for me. That's really that's the
Speaker 1: only way that we could be kept out of the
Speaker 1: league of vast conspiracy. What's going on in how how
Speaker 1: are you feeling about? Let's start with the Rockets. Actually,
Speaker 1: another tough year, but from years like this, great things bloom.
Speaker 1: We've seen it happen before, and it's always good to
Speaker 1: hear from the people who are who are watching the
Speaker 1: whole thing, to kind of hear your perspective. What are
Speaker 1: some bright spots, what are the glimmers of hope that
Speaker 1: you're seeing down there? I think you you get a
Speaker 1: chance to watch these kids grow and develop. And I
Speaker 1: think the coolest thing with with rookies and second year
Speaker 1: guys nineteen and twenty year old, so like they develop
Speaker 1: and get better in this season. So you can see
Speaker 1: from just training camp to now, vast improvements where you
Speaker 1: know you'll you'll have a veteran guy and they are
Speaker 1: who they are, they know who they are in the league.
Speaker 1: But watching that process, you know, makes everything that much sweeter.
Speaker 1: And then to have moments to have a glimpse it
Speaker 1: might be two possessions in a row, three possessions where
Speaker 1: you're going, oh man, that you're you get like kind
Speaker 1: of like that can be in the future and you
Speaker 1: you see those things, but um, it's it's fun. And yeah,
Speaker 1: rookies make a lot of mistakes and you know that
Speaker 1: everything is new to them and you have to be
Speaker 1: patient with that product. But you gotta understand, like watching
Speaker 1: these guys develop, watching them get opportunities. And I remember
Speaker 1: being a young guy in the league. I didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to just play and like iron my kinks out.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the a golden time for these
Speaker 1: young guys to learn on the fly and to get
Speaker 1: better and to improve, and you know, just the opportunities
Speaker 1: that they have, I think it's really cool to see.
Speaker 1: But the excitement that they bring to the table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the mistakes are there, but the development and you get
Speaker 1: that instant gratification you know right away will have a
Speaker 1: Jalen Green that you'll see his handles get better. Jabart
Speaker 1: Smith Jr. Will improve the second time guarding a Jana
Speaker 1: sounds of the coopo. You know, I prompt goon, Hey
Speaker 1: can you put the ball in his hands? Yeah? Man,
Speaker 1: he goes and gets you the youngest player in its
Speaker 1: center in history to have a triple double. So you're
Speaker 1: starting to see these guys do these things in this
Speaker 1: season and kind of like find their way in the league.
Speaker 1: It's that that little wabbly you know, dear that comes
Speaker 1: out and starts all of a sudden, gallops and runs off.
Speaker 1: So we're excited to see our young guys move forward.
Speaker 1: And from my standpoint, it's it's fun because it's it's
Speaker 1: a lot of energy and guys, you never know what
Speaker 1: you might get, especially with a young player. Yeah, Jalen
Speaker 1: Green has had I'm and what one of the most
Speaker 1: fun people to watch in the league going to the basket.
Speaker 1: It is just yeah, it's it's wild. We were Jabari
Speaker 1: and I were like, I thought he was like more
Speaker 1: guard sized than Jabar is, Like no, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: he's like six nine, six ten, but but he's just
Speaker 1: he just jumps that high. That's he he just plays
Speaker 1: with his head at the rim. So yeah, he's pretty
Speaker 1: cool to watch. Ryan. You mentioned somebody and I'll you know,
Speaker 1: Jack can tell you I'm the leader in the al
Speaker 1: shaneguon you know, you know fan base right here. Uh.
Speaker 1: The name of the dream is that the big Fellas dream.
Speaker 1: Watching how he plays it is it is my man. Look,
Speaker 1: I was I was already. I was already there as
Speaker 1: a rookie. I've been impressed by what I've seen in
Speaker 1: this second year. But can you speak directly to that?
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned some of the you know, some
Speaker 1: of the growth that you've been able to, you know,
Speaker 1: witness your with him up close, he speak directly to that.
Speaker 1: It's his footwork and like you gotta understand, like a
Speaker 1: young Ryan Hollands in the league was like just rebound,
Speaker 1: don't get pushed off your positioning, and it's like not Alpia,
Speaker 1: go lead a team to a victory. Whoa, Those are
Speaker 1: those are pretty big asks that is getting getting put
Speaker 1: on the young guys. But it's interesting, like the more
Speaker 1: of a role that he's been given, the more he's
Speaker 1: almost seemed comfortable. And it was that unknown he was
Speaker 1: the m v P in the Turkish League. So everybody's
Speaker 1: like Turkish League, all right, but anybody that young that
Speaker 1: is an m VP of a league with a bunch
Speaker 1: of grown adult men that probably smoked cigarettes and have
Speaker 1: multiple kids, and you know what I'm saying, like these
Speaker 1: are real. This is like and then like you're the
Speaker 1: m v P. They're like it means something, but um,
Speaker 1: he's just fun to watch and for him learning his
Speaker 1: accountability and what he means to the team, it's really cool.
Speaker 1: Like he matched up against Sibonus first time he saw Sibonus. Sibonus,
Speaker 1: you have checked him. Like he's playing lights out this year,
Speaker 1: balls moving through his hands. He's similar like yell Kitch
Speaker 1: where he's like the point guard. He's the creator, he's
Speaker 1: the playmaker and like kind of like watching Al Pete
Speaker 1: watch him and then go yeah, I can do that.
Speaker 1: You know, I can. I can. I can break you
Speaker 1: down off the dribble and you know, kick the ball
Speaker 1: to a guard. I can in theke shade offense, I can,
Speaker 1: I can. I can do this. And I think he's
Speaker 1: been on somewhat of a terror since then. But for me,
Speaker 1: it's cool to see and if you hadn't seen him
Speaker 1: best footwork in the league. Um feel for the game,
Speaker 1: sneaky bounce, will go ahead and punch on you. Like
Speaker 1: he's got a lot to him. But like you can
Speaker 1: legit play through alp on the block and he can
Speaker 1: will and deal and then he's got some showtime. He
Speaker 1: likes to have fun and um, he's an enjoyment man.
Speaker 1: But like you see our young guys like kind of
Speaker 1: make a play and they're like they're excited. Oh like that,
Speaker 1: they're surprised, like like they're they're shocking themselves with some
Speaker 1: of these plays that we see on a nightly basis.
Speaker 1: Why is it always the players from overseas that have
Speaker 1: the footwork? What did what did he? Did? He play?
Speaker 1: Like soccer? Hacky Sack? Is Hacky Sack secretly the like
Speaker 1: national sport of Turkey because I feel like peckim we
Speaker 1: always heard it was because of soccer. Indeed, I guess
Speaker 1: it was soccer, right, soccer and also volleyball. I don't
Speaker 1: know why that would be such great Soccer is like
Speaker 1: like how we're like, who basketball? Football? They yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm how he played soccer. You'll see him in
Speaker 1: Big bobon Bobon is walking around seven five, and they're
Speaker 1: like they're like they'll walk out and like dribble the
Speaker 1: basketball first, like that's the thing that they do with
Speaker 1: their feet. Yeah, there's a level where like guys like
Speaker 1: I played soccer in high school and I didn't get
Speaker 1: any more footwork. That didn't help me out. So like
Speaker 1: there's some things that just guys just have, you know.
Speaker 1: So he's talented and then obviously when you're not that athletic.
Speaker 1: He's more athletic than you think, but you're not that athletic.
Speaker 1: In a sense. It was like, you know, Ryan House,
Speaker 1: just go dunk a basketball. But he's like, Okay, how
Speaker 1: did I how can I be to like I have
Speaker 1: to have a left hand. I didn't have to have
Speaker 1: a left hand to dunk the basketball. They have to
Speaker 1: have a left hand. They're working on things and drilling things,
Speaker 1: and expectations are different, the coaching is different. I played
Speaker 1: overseas and just the attention to detail, it's not the same.
Speaker 1: But the ask is there and he he has it
Speaker 1: and and I think that is a level where there
Speaker 1: there there are more skilled because you gotta be like
Speaker 1: you know, like if you just go down and just
Speaker 1: dribble past people. Why would I have to work on
Speaker 1: the nuances the game. And I think that what we
Speaker 1: are seeing though is from the guard spot American players.
Speaker 1: The skill set has just taken a leap, and we
Speaker 1: can thank Steph Curry for that, the dribble step backs,
Speaker 1: the dribble combinations, Like our guys on on this side
Speaker 1: are doing a lot of things. And then with the
Speaker 1: emergence of small ball, you know, the league has changed
Speaker 1: from a spacing perspective. So I would challenge back that
Speaker 1: the league is come around from a skill perspective, especially
Speaker 1: when you're seeing you know, seven footers, you know, driven
Speaker 1: through the last, coming down, shooting pull ups, and this
Speaker 1: is something common that we're seeing where you know, your
Speaker 1: your college coaches, your AU coaches, your high school coaches
Speaker 1: are giving those fours and fives the freedom. So I
Speaker 1: would you know, clip back and say that the skill
Speaker 1: set is raising from our American players. Yeah, we we
Speaker 1: talked about like the league feels progressive, like it feels
Speaker 1: like people, but like you just mentioned with plant playing
Speaker 1: against someone and then like building your game, taking taking
Speaker 1: a piece of their game to like add to add
Speaker 1: the year game, I feel like that's happening constantly, just
Speaker 1: league league wide, and it really feels like we're seeing it,
Speaker 1: especially with some of the smaller like guard play. Recently, Jack,
Speaker 1: I was stepping to the gym, and the first thing
Speaker 1: I was told is, you're never gonna take that shot
Speaker 1: in the game, right, You're never gonna shoot at three
Speaker 1: in the game. Why are you shooting it right? Like,
Speaker 1: You're never never work on that, never getting through, never
Speaker 1: be better like I was told that. And I was
Speaker 1: a shooting guard, but that has more to do with
Speaker 1: what my shot looked like. Yes, sorry, Jack, I don't
Speaker 1: know about all right, let's talk speaking of young people
Speaker 1: of whom a lot has asked of I. I do
Speaker 1: just want to talk about Lebron because he's he's hitting
Speaker 1: a somewhat of a big moment in his career, I
Speaker 1: would say, taking over the scoring title from Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Again,
Speaker 1: it feels like it's could could be a bigger deal
Speaker 1: than what we're making it. But this has been an
Speaker 1: opportunity for you know. I think ESPN did a thing
Speaker 1: where they were like, what are some of your favorite
Speaker 1: shots from over the course of your career? And I
Speaker 1: did a thing where I was like, oh, let me
Speaker 1: go back and just look at his career and that
Speaker 1: there's actually there's a thing on YouTube that is just
Speaker 1: a cut up of all the game winners from throughout
Speaker 1: his career. And it's wild to look at the video
Speaker 1: quality of the early game winners because like we we
Speaker 1: have watched him, like some of these are against Gil
Speaker 1: Arenas and like brand and Roy, and he looks the
Speaker 1: like his his movement, his you know, confidence with the ball,
Speaker 1: like everything just looks still so smooth and and like
Speaker 1: we're just watching a time traveler like move through different
Speaker 1: eras of the game and just be adding things to
Speaker 1: his game. So I don't know. Jabari and I were
Speaker 1: talking about our favorite game winners from Lebron's career. My
Speaker 1: pick was in the playoffs first the Raptors, where he
Speaker 1: just brought the ball up the court and like did
Speaker 1: a running fading to the left shot, like falling out
Speaker 1: of bounds bank shot somehow, even though he was like
Speaker 1: didn't really have the angle on it. But it was
Speaker 1: a point in his career. It was when he was
Speaker 1: back in Cleveland, when you know, it was known that
Speaker 1: they were gonna win, Like as you're watching it, you
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. It was the time that
Speaker 1: like it most reminded me of like when I was
Speaker 1: a kid watching Jordan's in the nineties finals, where you
Speaker 1: knew he was going to steal the ball and like
Speaker 1: hit the shot as it was happening, just because that's
Speaker 1: just what he did. Now, the big thing is make
Speaker 1: sure you do not foul anybody here on the drubble.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be under three throws up the plutter. Good
Speaker 1: nice that is for you. I'm just wondering you played
Speaker 1: in the league against you. Are there ever times as
Speaker 1: a player where you're almost caught up watching the show
Speaker 1: as well? I mean, look, I'll say this. I with
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson. I was on the King's you know not
Speaker 1: the shift gears from Lebron when he had that thirty
Speaker 1: five points in the quarter yea in Golden State's office.
Speaker 1: There's like a picture of me like yelling at Clay
Speaker 1: trying to make a miss from the band shot. And
Speaker 1: a funny thing about that what he did is I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there with my boy Carl, and you shout Carl
Speaker 1: Andrey legend legend right there, man, legendary power forward and um,
Speaker 1: you know, like back and forth just on some hoop
Speaker 1: talk on the bench, We're like, hey, man, how good
Speaker 1: do you think Clay is? You know this time when
Speaker 1: it was like step show, they weren't like well, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they were world champs. Yeah they were good,
Speaker 1: they were running, played different, But how good is Clay?
Speaker 1: Like you hit on Clay? He and Carls like, man,
Speaker 1: I like him, And I was like, yeah, well he
Speaker 1: doesn't dribble much, you know, he just shoots like you
Speaker 1: think he could really like, you know, win with that,
Speaker 1: Like how good can he be? Before? You know, like
Speaker 1: Clay's hit one shot, another one and he keeps going.
Speaker 1: Then we're like all right, time out, you know, just
Speaker 1: being embarrassing and throw another defender at him. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a bank, it's a runner. He's going to the post.
Speaker 1: And at the point he like he hit tent straight
Speaker 1: and were like, dude, me and Carl like looked at
Speaker 1: each other. We had to look like after like the
Speaker 1: eight shots like yeah yeah, he's like yeah, he's like
Speaker 1: and we see the NBA record, So you become a
Speaker 1: fan of that moment um. I would say one that
Speaker 1: I had to give respect. I could be a fan
Speaker 1: of is um. I was on the Celtics when Lebron
Speaker 1: went off for that like thirty five fifteen and three performance.
Speaker 1: We're three too, we're coming back. Um, we got the
Speaker 1: big win in Miami. We stole one at their place.
Speaker 1: We're in a prime possession, the kind of ahead of
Speaker 1: schedule from our standpoint of what we're gonna do. We're like,
Speaker 1: let's go seven. We had KG, Paul Pierce, Rondo, Ray Allen.
Speaker 1: We're like, we had the veterans. They may be younger,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna grind them out. The moment's gonna get
Speaker 1: too big, Lebron's gonna fold. It's not gonna happen. And um,
Speaker 1: he came out in that game, and uh, we figured
Speaker 1: we had Dwayne Wade like locked up, like not locked up,
Speaker 1: but Dwayne beat us, I think, you know, in game
Speaker 1: one or two whatever, And we're like, Dane Wade can
Speaker 1: beat you. He's a world chance. We gotta respect him. So,
Speaker 1: you know, we adjusted shifted our pick and roll defense.
Speaker 1: We were kind of sitting on way. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say we hadn't figured out, but we did a
Speaker 1: decently good job on him where it was kind of
Speaker 1: like our mindset was like Dwayne Wade versus the execution
Speaker 1: of Paul ray Rondo and and KG. You know that
Speaker 1: was kind of like three man games. It was our
Speaker 1: execution versus down there. One on ones were like, we
Speaker 1: we got him, and Lebron came out and we threw
Speaker 1: everything at him but the kitchen sink out of the
Speaker 1: locker room. And I mean literally we were double teeing
Speaker 1: him from the elbow and he was just turning and
Speaker 1: fading over those double teams. Who was getting to the
Speaker 1: fail line like he was just in his stoke zone.
Speaker 1: Katie was talking crazy to him. The fans were buying.
Speaker 1: I saw a kid with a with an expletive where
Speaker 1: kn't say Lebron shirt on that I couldn't believe that,
Speaker 1: you know, come on, I could believe thee would be wearing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, you know this was this is like
Speaker 1: war and Lebron hadn't like gone to war and been
Speaker 1: successful in a moment and that was remembered like the
Speaker 1: main wage team he's just joined. The Wayne Wade was like, nah,
Speaker 1: this Lebront, that was the moment. I wasn't cheering for him,
Speaker 1: but like you had to give him his respect. Everybody
Speaker 1: in the back room gave him his respect, and it
Speaker 1: was like, listen, he's better, he's that dude, he's he's
Speaker 1: the king. Put the hat on him. Um I was
Speaker 1: there for and it was tough to stomach because we
Speaker 1: were probably gonna roll over the thunder that year in
Speaker 1: the championship. They were just super young. They were super
Speaker 1: super young, and it was like their first or second
Speaker 1: year together. Um, so that one stunned. But you, I
Speaker 1: feel like you had to get out respect, whereas due
Speaker 1: for LBJ. Yeah. Yeah, I go back to the billboards
Speaker 1: all the time, the fact that the town he grew
Speaker 1: up in when he was in high school had billboards
Speaker 1: up from Nike and Adidas that were billboards aimed not
Speaker 1: at other not at people, just at Lebron, like advertisements
Speaker 1: to Lebron being like please please sign with like that's
Speaker 1: Truman show, like your world is just the world is
Speaker 1: like built and revolving around you. There's just so much
Speaker 1: pressure from such a young age and the fact that
Speaker 1: we're here this many years later talking about how he's
Speaker 1: about to overtake the scoring title, which wasn't even the
Speaker 1: thing that he was like talked about when when he
Speaker 1: came in as being like a scorer primarily, but Jabari
Speaker 1: name one of the person actually met the hype. I
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, like to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: like we we always hype folks, and you know, oftentimes
Speaker 1: they deserve the hype they've done it. But I can,
Speaker 1: I personally cannot think of another player that came in
Speaker 1: with the hype and the focus and you know, to
Speaker 1: Jack's point, with all of the attention being on them
Speaker 1: and not just meet, it exceeded the closest thing we
Speaker 1: might we might say, and I lead this to the
Speaker 1: to the O G s, the ohheads, the time in
Speaker 1: on that. If I'm wrong, I would say Magic Johnson
Speaker 1: Blow came to l a showtime Lakers. He had a
Speaker 1: squad behind him. Now it's not not not that, but
Speaker 1: like magic of like he came in that dude, the
Speaker 1: young guy earned his respect one championship jump center. Like
Speaker 1: I would say magic in a sense of kind of
Speaker 1: maybe the hype that became like what he was supposed
Speaker 1: to be, you know to a degree. I mean that
Speaker 1: game that that championship game with him versus Bird in
Speaker 1: the n C Double A title was as big as
Speaker 1: anything that had happened in the n B as like,
Speaker 1: you know, so he was already a massive star. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that that's I feel like similar. Yeah, and you're preaching
Speaker 1: to acquire with magic praise. Look, you know you want
Speaker 1: want won the high school title as a senior, when
Speaker 1: a college title, you know, two years later, won an
Speaker 1: NBA title the year after that, you know, three titles
Speaker 1: at three levels and four years is pretty crazy. Bar,
Speaker 1: you start glowing. Wait, wait, do you go like that
Speaker 1: odd show? He said, But it does, it does ja.
Speaker 1: Bar might be a Lakers fan. He might be a
Speaker 1: little bit of a Lakers fan. Yeah, but it's unreal.
Speaker 1: You want to appreciate until it's done. Yeah. Absolutely, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the big headlines in the league from the last
Speaker 1: week and some of the performances that blew us way.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. He end. We're back, and obviously
Speaker 1: the big headline from the past week. It happened over
Speaker 1: the weekend. I was in a movie and I thought
Speaker 1: I thought the world was ending. My phone was going
Speaker 1: off in my pocket. I was like, what I need
Speaker 1: to like leave the theater and make sure my kids
Speaker 1: are all right, But yeah, Kyrie to the MAVs. It's
Speaker 1: being reported is Kyrie for Spencer Dinwoody, Dorian Phinney, Smith,
Speaker 1: a first round pick, and several second rounders. Uh. There
Speaker 1: was a brief period where it appeared the Nets maybe
Speaker 1: trying to add a third team to the deal in
Speaker 1: order to acquire more firepower. Um, but that didn't seem
Speaker 1: to gain any traction or what didn't get confirmed, I guess.
Speaker 1: So the deal is going through as previously reported. But yeah, Ryan,
Speaker 1: as a as a player and a teammate, how did
Speaker 1: how did you react to the trade deadline when the
Speaker 1: rumors involved someone you were gonna go to battle with
Speaker 1: on a nightly basis? Uh? What what does it do
Speaker 1: to you when your name is involved in trade talks? Well,
Speaker 1: I would say, Um, I was never, you know, outwardly
Speaker 1: involved in trade talks. Me personally, I was always blessed
Speaker 1: that I was able to peacefully negotiate the trades that
Speaker 1: I was a part of. They were expected, you know,
Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, from a player's standpoint,
Speaker 1: I was never some mega superstars, So I felt like
Speaker 1: I've done everything I could for the teams that I
Speaker 1: was on my time had either run its course or
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't being valued the way that I
Speaker 1: felt like I should have been, and I you always
Speaker 1: looked to be going somewhere that I was valued. I'm
Speaker 1: ecstatic for Mark Cuban also because Dallas I think this
Speaker 1: is probably then the biggest name they've been able to
Speaker 1: acquire via trade. And I think, you know, Mark has
Speaker 1: missed out on a number of free agencies. He's always
Speaker 1: all market, is always in the mix with a player,
Speaker 1: and hadn't really been able to bring it home. And
Speaker 1: I think this is the biggest name that Mark has
Speaker 1: been able to make the trade for and and and
Speaker 1: bring in as far as in terms of guy that's
Speaker 1: a world champ, a guy who can still go a
Speaker 1: superstar mentality. And I think when Kyrie sees the love
Speaker 1: that he's gonna get from Dallas and and Mark Cuban there,
Speaker 1: and you gotta make a start. Like I'm I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine looking on a scout report, but like,
Speaker 1: all right, so we throw the house at Luca and
Speaker 1: then when we all rotate that way, we gotta and
Speaker 1: he skips it that way, then everybody gotta shift right
Speaker 1: back over there go guard Kyrie. So that man, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a headache. I can't even think of how
Speaker 1: to uh you know, how to scout it. And I
Speaker 1: think Luca is so good. Luca is so good that
Speaker 1: the problem he runs into is like, hey man, he
Speaker 1: can't do this for a seven game series. He needs help.
Speaker 1: Like he he can't do this for all eighty two games.
Speaker 1: You know, at some point he's gonna, you know, be tired.
Speaker 1: You know, he needs to help. And I think this
Speaker 1: maybe answers that call or that challenge, because Luca Dunton
Speaker 1: is a certified He's a certified dog you put. You
Speaker 1: mentioned him with Lebron, you mentioned him with Bird, you
Speaker 1: mentioned him with Magic, and we said earlier with Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: Luca that name, you you mentioned him with Steph Kurr.
Speaker 1: You don't bat an eye. He's in that conversation with
Speaker 1: those type of guys. So, um, I'm I'm happy to
Speaker 1: see what it is and I'm happy for Kyrie, And UM,
Speaker 1: I think he gets intriguing guys that we look forward
Speaker 1: to say, hey, you know, did they lose those assets
Speaker 1: for nothing? You know, are they gonna be able to
Speaker 1: um sign resign him? This is gonna be a quiet
Speaker 1: Leonard type of deal, you know that the Dice roll
Speaker 1: that Toronto rolled, and then he ends up going to
Speaker 1: l A, you know, and I think, hey, or is
Speaker 1: this gonna be the Paul George move where no one
Speaker 1: really saw him staying in Okay see, and he was
Speaker 1: like Paul was like, they gave up draft picks, they
Speaker 1: committed to me. These people rock with me. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stay here. You know, in Dallas is a beautiful city. Man.
Speaker 1: I played in Dallas. I played for Mark Cuban. It's
Speaker 1: a fun city man. And as an owner, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: Mark doesn't rock away. He steps up, So I'm happy
Speaker 1: for him. I'm intriguing to see how it works. And
Speaker 1: the NBA drama keys rolling fellas. Yeah, there are some
Speaker 1: questions I think people have about like, well, what you know,
Speaker 1: they're both ball dominant players. They're both uh, you know,
Speaker 1: not the foremost defenders of their positions. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, the more I think about it, the more
Speaker 1: I hear you talk, the more it's just like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, that that level of shot making, like
Speaker 1: two of the best, if not the two best shot
Speaker 1: makers in the league, Like just the two players who
Speaker 1: I'm like, how how do they do what they do?
Speaker 1: Like it seems almost supernatural. Their ability to put the
Speaker 1: ball in the basket, like at so many different levels
Speaker 1: that so many different angles that's going to be hard
Speaker 1: to defend, would be would be my hot take. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about some of the best performances of
Speaker 1: the week. Uh mad boost These great performances of the
Speaker 1: week is the is what we've cleverly called this segment
Speaker 1: of the show. You know, just just first of all,
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson still out here doing it, you know. Uh
Speaker 1: he put up forty two on twelve of six team
Speaker 1: from three on. Okay, see um in a blowout win
Speaker 1: without Steph Wiggins, looking like he's back in the form
Speaker 1: we saw him in during last year's title run. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I love seeing Clay go off.
Speaker 1: I also want to talk about Keegan Murray with thirty
Speaker 1: to the Kings and scoring and win over the Rockets.
Speaker 1: Keegan Murray rookie eight for twelve from deep. He's shooting
Speaker 1: from three on over six attempts a game as a rookie.
Speaker 1: Just you need if you need a six? How tall
Speaker 1: is he sees like, I just I love this this again.
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite things to highlight the
Speaker 1: progressiveness of the league of one of the things we've
Speaker 1: already hit on hitting on my second favorite team. Nobody
Speaker 1: knows anything when it comes to people coming into the
Speaker 1: league and you know all the the you know sports
Speaker 1: guys where we're out here with the well, you know
Speaker 1: this big mistake for the Kings. The Kings have done
Speaker 1: it again. They could. They missed out on a great piece,
Speaker 1: great opportunity to get a piece. Who who what? Who
Speaker 1: shoots from three at six eight? Like? Is one of
Speaker 1: already like a premier shooter in the league as a
Speaker 1: rookie for the third place team in the US. UM,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Keepan Mary did? Did you? Were you
Speaker 1: on that game? It was? Um? The beautiful thing we
Speaker 1: talked about saponis earlier. Um, he's in a situation when
Speaker 1: veterans around him where he just has to play his role.
Speaker 1: Between Sabonus and Fox, those guys generate a lot of
Speaker 1: ball movement and a lot of corner threes. So when
Speaker 1: you start to simplify things for a young guy, he
Speaker 1: knows his role, which is to catch and shoot the basketball.
Speaker 1: It first off started with him just kind of getting
Speaker 1: open looks and just being aggressive, and then it was like, well,
Speaker 1: he's not that open, he's just hitting these contexted threes.
Speaker 1: And then he got that like little you know, like
Speaker 1: you gotta get that pep in his step, like they
Speaker 1: start seeing the ball go in before it's if you
Speaker 1: know they even had the ball, they get that different
Speaker 1: a little run. He had that, So I think he's
Speaker 1: it's extremely impressive, um because he's a fit. And I
Speaker 1: think that Sacramento knew they didn't need like a boom
Speaker 1: er bus potential guy. They needed a guy who could
Speaker 1: come in right now and play. And Keegan Murray, I
Speaker 1: think if you you know, you kind of followed him.
Speaker 1: He's a little older, but he's ready now. And Sacramento
Speaker 1: got a guy that's ready now. And if you even
Speaker 1: go beyond that, UM, I would say the trade that
Speaker 1: they made with Indiana Halliburton's like it won't for both sides.
Speaker 1: It's not often you see those trades win for both sides. Um.
Speaker 1: Both all stars like both playing well and sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just it's just a change of scenery. And I think
Speaker 1: it's really cool for both sides. Someone didn't have to
Speaker 1: win and someone didn't have to lose. But I think
Speaker 1: um both ended up being really good fits because, like
Speaker 1: you said, how could you trade Halliburt? Why would you
Speaker 1: do that? Because we're better? Because it fits and then
Speaker 1: he's better there like like well you love to have him, yes,
Speaker 1: but like it just it works that way. And because
Speaker 1: you the basketball media are underrating darn Fox because you
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't been doing what you know, like
Speaker 1: when we've seen more of him, we know that he
Speaker 1: has this in him. Uh, you guys just don't know
Speaker 1: that yet. So yeah, this is the was the right
Speaker 1: move for the Kings. Yeah, I don't know that's it's exciting.
Speaker 1: The Kings are exciting the Kings. Do we think we
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be there in the in the Western
Speaker 1: Conference Finals? They gotta shot it just much is anybody
Speaker 1: right now? Because you can look at those numbers and
Speaker 1: say it's a team that doesn't defend. I think they're
Speaker 1: under size. They're gonna struggle to guard the rim. It's
Speaker 1: just part of it. But you gotta understand part of
Speaker 1: their defensive numbers are so bad. There's an element of
Speaker 1: they play fast and their paces up so when you
Speaker 1: play fast, you're gonna give up shots on the other end.
Speaker 1: But when you're scoring, you know, one thirty a night
Speaker 1: and you're giving up one twenty, Like that's just part
Speaker 1: of like you kind of man, I get Golden State
Speaker 1: vibbed from Mike Brown and that team, like in the
Speaker 1: sense that that they kind of run and then in
Speaker 1: a half court they'll get disciplined. They'll run their stuff
Speaker 1: like they're in a sweet little groove. And I think
Speaker 1: that they've got to play just enough defense, and I
Speaker 1: think it becomes tough because you don't they don't have
Speaker 1: that a racer back there, Like the Bonus is a
Speaker 1: great defensiveverybody, but they don't have that eracer where man,
Speaker 1: we made a mistake guys like day that that that
Speaker 1: Robert Williams just came over and blocked the shot and
Speaker 1: helped us out. They don't have that part that that piece.
Speaker 1: But they do rotate, they do play together, and they
Speaker 1: really pressured the basketball. So there there's I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to necessarily match up with the King is right now
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Speaking actually to that, you know, we've
Speaker 1: already discussed We've already discussed the Kings just recently we
Speaker 1: discussed you know, the Warriors earlier. Um, this is something
Speaker 1: that you know, Jack and Miles have discussed it, you know,
Speaker 1: in weeks past the West. I personally have never seen
Speaker 1: it as I don't want I don't know whether it's
Speaker 1: competitive or whether it's just you know, like a higher
Speaker 1: level of parody or whatever the whatever you want to
Speaker 1: attribute it to. But the four seed in the twelve
Speaker 1: seat as still less than five games apart from one another.
Speaker 1: How does this shape up? You know? Like, so, who
Speaker 1: who's gonna be on the outside looking in when you
Speaker 1: know in another games or so, somebody's gonna be real upset,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna emerge, somebody's gonna be real upset. I think,
Speaker 1: what's tough right now? And you see you're kind of
Speaker 1: saying it with like New Orleans. You gotta be healthy
Speaker 1: in these moments. Health is gonna be such a big
Speaker 1: part of it. But like everybody can't go on the party. Man,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a you know that there's a fee
Speaker 1: at the door. The fire marshals out and parties popping.
Speaker 1: Everybody ain't gonna make it, you know, And I think
Speaker 1: you look back, what about two or three years now.
Speaker 1: Thank you NBA for the playing the game. Man, this
Speaker 1: this playing game about to turn up. Okay, So there's
Speaker 1: gonna be something you know, you know really you know,
Speaker 1: really cool to see and look forward to. And I think, man,
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand, like it's it's tough
Speaker 1: on my young Rockets because more than ever I see
Speaker 1: the Rockets going into games and these are like must
Speaker 1: win games at this time of year, like we can't
Speaker 1: afford to drop, well, we're gonna drop five spots and
Speaker 1: lose this game. And teams are for our poor young
Speaker 1: guys man, like they're coming at them in a different
Speaker 1: way man, every night, because this race is so tight,
Speaker 1: there's no nights. All. I want to say. The Rockets
Speaker 1: might have played three or four teams as young as
Speaker 1: they are this season, like like kind of like hey,
Speaker 1: like go go pound for pound, like you know, like
Speaker 1: in terms of age, and you know, like I think
Speaker 1: we've seen Detroit, San Antonio, which is they still play
Speaker 1: hard at heck and um Orlando. Maybe it feels like huge,
Speaker 1: like a lone stars. It's like it's like yeah, man,
Speaker 1: so it's tough, it's competitive and it's tough. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do want to talk about real quick. Cam Thomas is
Speaker 1: going out of his mind, put up forty four off
Speaker 1: the bench in a win against Porzingis and the Wizards
Speaker 1: without Kyrie and k D and then also have forty
Speaker 1: seven and a loss to the Clippers in a starting
Speaker 1: role for the Nets right after the Kyrie trade, making
Speaker 1: him the youngest guy since Lebron to score forty four
Speaker 1: or more in back to back games. And Jabara, you were,
Speaker 1: you were asking a good question like how many cam
Speaker 1: Thomases are out there just waiting to go off, just
Speaker 1: like waiting for for their moment to just get the
Speaker 1: ball something get fed? Ain't many. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was an act neither, It ain't many. I think that
Speaker 1: young boy in Dallas what had twenty seven, I forget
Speaker 1: his name. The other night man, Jade Hardy, Jade Hardy
Speaker 1: is on Dallas kind of had a similar kind of like, hey,
Speaker 1: you don't need to bring him in. I could do it.
Speaker 1: Like their performances. And I think that's the fun thing
Speaker 1: about the league. And you know, I think our question
Speaker 1: is this is this for real? You know, is it's
Speaker 1: for real? I think that the league is training in
Speaker 1: a way where, you know, We're gonna see more of
Speaker 1: those moments because it's such a three point uh dominant league.
Speaker 1: I don't want to just say that guy don't defend anymore.
Speaker 1: It's just it's hard to Like when I was in
Speaker 1: the league, spacing wasn't near the same. Your power forward
Speaker 1: shot fifteen footers. You couldn't contest the paint and run
Speaker 1: them off of the three point the excuse me, the
Speaker 1: free throw line. That's three point line. Now you got
Speaker 1: chase these guys off the line at twenty six ft
Speaker 1: you know, ft away from the basket. So it's hard
Speaker 1: to defend, you know. So, um, I think you will
Speaker 1: see more of these performances. And I think that I
Speaker 1: think that you have a number of these guys now
Speaker 1: there's more of a role where before they were like
Speaker 1: they were, well before, these guys were like gunners. They
Speaker 1: were gunners. They were selfish. That guy's too small, he's
Speaker 1: not a point guard. He can't play in this league
Speaker 1: just scoring. Like you got a lot of those guys
Speaker 1: now in the league to do that, and I think
Speaker 1: you we will see more of those performances. All right,
Speaker 1: So I want to I want to talk about a
Speaker 1: thing that we've been we've been calling a business decision
Speaker 1: for the past like three episodes. We've been talking about
Speaker 1: players who when they're about to be dunked on. You know,
Speaker 1: John said, jump with me if you want to go viral.
Speaker 1: And sometimes when people make a business decision and like
Speaker 1: they might jump, but then the rest of their body
Speaker 1: goes dead, like they're trying to defend off like a
Speaker 1: bear attack because they know what what about to happen.
Speaker 1: So just just the phenomena of business decisions, you know.
Speaker 1: We we saw Norman pal baptized Julius Randall after a
Speaker 1: poor business decision. Uh that's uh. We we saw in
Speaker 1: the Lakers Pels game, a d make a very coherent,
Speaker 1: visible business decision on a brandon Ingram dunk in the
Speaker 1: second quarter. Is that something? Do you remember ever making
Speaker 1: a business decision Ryan in your career? Yeah? I have.
Speaker 1: I mean, were you just too late? Like I get
Speaker 1: like like but here's a big part of it too.
Speaker 1: I remember like Matt Harpring ripped me off the rim
Speaker 1: and like clothesline me and like I hit the floor
Speaker 1: like back first, and it's like like like and the
Speaker 1: referee was like you have two free those get up
Speaker 1: and go and I'm like, this guy just assaulted me
Speaker 1: in forty states. There's no call two free throws what
Speaker 1: so you can't do that like just the same o
Speaker 1: G like no dunk rule, no more, like you know,
Speaker 1: like you can't just get away with it. So I
Speaker 1: think that's why you do see some more of the
Speaker 1: business decisions. I think there is like like come on, man,
Speaker 1: like you can't be soft like like like some of
Speaker 1: that like came you don't forget the Internet highlights, you know,
Speaker 1: And somebody was even telling me that the other day
Speaker 1: that you know, this was unheard of. I've never checked
Speaker 1: my phone until after the game. I would never be
Speaker 1: in a movie and hear my phone buzzing. It would
Speaker 1: be on silent Jack. It was, and it was just
Speaker 1: blown up my hip. I was like, these kids are
Speaker 1: on their phone at halftimes, they seeing highlights at halftime,
Speaker 1: like you come in there on there like that's like
Speaker 1: players and being played today are on their phone at halftime.
Speaker 1: I would have been, man, what if one of the
Speaker 1: bests would have jumped down my throat they saw me
Speaker 1: on my cell phone a half you know, So it's
Speaker 1: it's it is, it's a it's a different era. So
Speaker 1: I think it's a mix of you can't flame, you foul,
Speaker 1: you can't just go hurting players anymore, and some of
Speaker 1: these guys are making them, you know. So what we
Speaker 1: grade the business decisions now, but there are more than
Speaker 1: ever Who would you make the most business decisions against?
Speaker 1: And the reason why I asked the questions because look,
Speaker 1: you came into the league when Shack was still there.
Speaker 1: It was in the back half of his career. But
Speaker 1: you're still They're still active, still moving around. You know,
Speaker 1: Duncan was still around. Who were the guys that made
Speaker 1: you make the most business decsions? Man? I really didn't.
Speaker 1: I just like I just tried not to be late.
Speaker 1: But Shat Shat got me, and Maria Stodomar got me,
Speaker 1: and the business decision wasn't mine. It was Kevin Love.
Speaker 1: I was something so mad at Kevin. Kevin Love was
Speaker 1: like getting backed down by a MARII and like at
Speaker 1: the last second, like he like whipped his shoulder out
Speaker 1: the way and then like in turning, I just get
Speaker 1: facial and like, all right, if you you know, you
Speaker 1: bump them, I'm gonna come come meet him upstairs. And
Speaker 1: you like like like Kevin has just set me up.
Speaker 1: The marge Dot of Brus set me up. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just always early and like you know, you
Speaker 1: kind of have especially as a shot blocker in your mind,
Speaker 1: the guys who can go like, hey, I can't be
Speaker 1: late with him, like you know, so I would just
Speaker 1: be lebron Wade. I would be outside the block. I
Speaker 1: wasn't waiting for them to get there. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: so we have this, you know, fantastic play that we
Speaker 1: watched for years, Shack it's backing me down. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: this is just gonna be just like shoot around. He's
Speaker 1: backing me down. The help is gonna comes, gonna kick
Speaker 1: it out. Roads are around the corn and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get a contest of three box up rebound that we
Speaker 1: go to. Let right, he's backing me down, nobody comes,
Speaker 1: backing me down, Nobody comes. He's backing me down. Nobody comes.
Speaker 1: At this point, he's size eight. Teens are in the paint.
Speaker 1: He turns elbows me across the face and duns over me.
Speaker 1: And I realized, never again guard these guys like that
Speaker 1: double teammate coming because live on a d C, no
Speaker 1: double team came, and I was, you know, I was out.
Speaker 1: I was out out to sail, so you know what
Speaker 1: like a you know, like I just gave Shack the
Speaker 1: greatest contest ever. But still like you you know, you learned.
Speaker 1: You learn that lessons your teammates and when the lights
Speaker 1: come on, they don't you know, they care about you
Speaker 1: like you thought they would. All right, Ryan, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We're gonna come back. We're gonna
Speaker 1: put you in the hot seat for the rapid fire
Speaker 1: round of questioning, the fastest round of questioning in the
Speaker 1: history of podcasting. So just you know, get get loosened
Speaker 1: up during the break, and we'll be back. And it's
Speaker 1: gonna be so fast. If you put a hat on,
Speaker 1: the hat would's been around on your head like that.
Speaker 1: That's how fast this Well, we'll be right back, and
Speaker 1: we're back, and it is time for the rapid fire
Speaker 1: round of questioning, where we might try and slow things down.
Speaker 1: You gotta keep us on pace. You got you gotta
Speaker 1: just move your chest. It's it's like they are there
Speaker 1: any wrong answers? Yeah, And in fact, we prefer wrong answers.
Speaker 1: We prefer answers that you haven't even thought about. That's
Speaker 1: how quick they're coming out of your mouth. All right, Jabari,
Speaker 1: would you like to do the honors and take the
Speaker 1: first question? Sure you don't want to go Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. That's right, Um, all right, Ryan, if
Speaker 1: you could bet on any So we were recently talking
Speaker 1: about how the Pacers had somebody hit layup, pre throw,
Speaker 1: free pointer, half court shot and they won five dollars
Speaker 1: for hitting all those shots in a row, because I
Speaker 1: guess they have high expectations for for their shot making
Speaker 1: ability in the state of Indiana. If you could bet
Speaker 1: on any fan base to make the in arena challenge shots,
Speaker 1: which fan base are you betting on? Houston man in
Speaker 1: the crowd? What are you now? If you're expanding outside
Speaker 1: the world of sports to just any fan base, can
Speaker 1: be Star Wars fan base, start t fan base, UM,
Speaker 1: Olympic darts, Olympic archery. I probably say I probably say
Speaker 1: the golfers and offers have an eye for the ball.
Speaker 1: They have a good eye. I think a golfer would
Speaker 1: would would knock the shot down. Definitely translates with Steph.
Speaker 1: He's got that pretty that pretty swing and the ability
Speaker 1: to He's a pretty good shooter too. I think I
Speaker 1: take Tiger. I take Tiger over Brady and it just
Speaker 1: make that shot. Oh, that's yeah. We should we should
Speaker 1: change this question to be about like other athletes athletes,
Speaker 1: which athletes should you? Would you take? But you've never
Speaker 1: seen shoot shoot a basketball before? If a golfer does it,
Speaker 1: do you have to do the golf clapper? Can you accordingly?
Speaker 1: They drained half, They secretly want to just turn up
Speaker 1: they want it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, Bran,
Speaker 1: if you get all I have to ask is if
Speaker 1: you could just keep us going. You know, we we
Speaker 1: we slowed down there that that question took a lot
Speaker 1: longer than what we're The standard is here. If you
Speaker 1: don't mind, I appreciate it. So I'm coming to you
Speaker 1: with this basketball refer Oh boy, basketball reference has yours.
Speaker 1: Oh you knew fake news. So for the for the
Speaker 1: benefit of the listeners, you know, feel free to let
Speaker 1: Google be your friend. But Basketball Reference has Brian's nickname
Speaker 1: as Booty Call. Can you shed some light on the
Speaker 1: origin of that, or if it's not safe for this podcast,
Speaker 1: can you give us some other really good Oh Tony
Speaker 1: Tony Allen. It's one of those homies that you have
Speaker 1: that doesn't know and like sign if he don't got
Speaker 1: nothing to say, like he just feels like he always
Speaker 1: has to say something. He's that and he's that friend.
Speaker 1: He was doing an interview Ryan Honna is playing great
Speaker 1: for you guys. He's showing up. He's been here through camp.
Speaker 1: You know. He comes in, he doesn't miss a beat.
Speaker 1: What what do you guys? What do you have to
Speaker 1: say about him? Kill? We called him the call, We
Speaker 1: call him he ready to go to Why would you
Speaker 1: say that? I have never been called that in the
Speaker 1: locker room or my life, and most importantly I have children,
Speaker 1: So basketball reference, you're gonna get a defamation lawsuit from
Speaker 1: me if you don't change that soon. Kids, Man, what's
Speaker 1: wrong with it? I've never been called that in my life. Man. Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: come on to me and call you that. Call me
Speaker 1: that if you like, and we'll see how that ends
Speaker 1: up your Nighteings and my Night's equivalent of like microwave
Speaker 1: from the eighties, the modern equivalent of booty call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you call, he's ready to go. Um. Anthony Edwards
Speaker 1: recently acknowledged a three bag per day habit of hot
Speaker 1: Cheetos fries. What was your wildest eating habit when you
Speaker 1: were a young athlete, and what was the wildest thing
Speaker 1: you witnessed diet wise when you were in the league.
Speaker 1: I was told at my eating was equivalent to an
Speaker 1: NFL defensive tackle. Um, I couldn't gain a pound. My
Speaker 1: metabolism is just ridiculous. You called it the gift and
Speaker 1: the curse. I can eat anything I want. And the
Speaker 1: joke would be that instead of like dessert, I would
Speaker 1: just order more food for dessert like treis Um eating habit.
Speaker 1: My boy, shout out Adam Morrison before the game, he
Speaker 1: would eat like a like a six ounce six or
Speaker 1: eight ount steak, full mashed potailoes, everything before an NBA
Speaker 1: game as a rookie. And Jabari's stomach just turned as
Speaker 1: he thought about that and then going to the game
Speaker 1: and play, and he was like that was his thing.
Speaker 1: And he'd go into the our little like entertainment room
Speaker 1: and he'd eat it. Where where's he's just like ordering
Speaker 1: in from like Morton's to the to the It would
Speaker 1: kind of make it for him and bring it with
Speaker 1: like a little top on like it was this thing.
Speaker 1: It was the It was the oddest. Adam did it
Speaker 1: and he lived by it. And yeah, all right, keeping
Speaker 1: it going, we'd all star are weakened in mind. We've
Speaker 1: asked this question, you know, several different ways, but I'll
Speaker 1: come to you it. Actually I'm gonna remix it a
Speaker 1: little bit. You can put together four dunkers all time.
Speaker 1: Give me your four dunkers, Joel Green, Aaron Gordon, Okay,
Speaker 1: see where you going, Zach Levine and um m M
Speaker 1: number four. I'll say so No Jordan's no fence, no VC,
Speaker 1: I'll go VC. Okay, like honestly, like we just rocked
Speaker 1: with Bean and Mike. They was doing stuff. He's seen
Speaker 1: guys jump further like an honorable mention, Nate, Nate Robinson,
Speaker 1: honorable benching Like like Nate, like I could slide Nate
Speaker 1: in there because he brought he brought the energy with it.
Speaker 1: He was little. We could rock. We were shout out
Speaker 1: Nate Robinson. Man all right. And then similarly, same same
Speaker 1: time machine that we just brought those players from their
Speaker 1: prime with, you can now get in that time machine
Speaker 1: go back and watch any single NBA game from throughout
Speaker 1: history in person. Which game are you choosing? I could
Speaker 1: watch any game in history, Um NBA game, I think
Speaker 1: that I want to see the Malice of the Palace dog. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean not not a finals game, not a serious
Speaker 1: matchup at down the stretch of a season, down the
Speaker 1: playoff put a game in like November. Okay, my mind
Speaker 1: went and said, let me see Magic jump Center, you know,
Speaker 1: and the sky hook and and then I was like
Speaker 1: yo that like yo, like the brawl like in person,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be fighting, and I don't. I
Speaker 1: just want to watch like, oh he just went he's
Speaker 1: in the hands, like I think like seeing it, like
Speaker 1: the people up close and personal got a different view. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd say that was one of the more interactive fan
Speaker 1: experiences that we got history experience. Forgive me, guys, no, no,
Speaker 1: all right. Then finally we have a question that we
Speaker 1: ask everybody. Is it going to be Jack or Jabari
Speaker 1: for what you gotta pick? And I'm not leading the
Speaker 1: witness at all. I'm just you know, you know Jack,
Speaker 1: that guy or you know me. I'll go to Jabari. Man,
Speaker 1: we break streaks here. We are here to break streaks,
Speaker 1: so like there's no rhyme or reason. I just had
Speaker 1: to pick one of you whatever. And Jack was on
Speaker 1: at least a three streak. Yeah, Jabari, you sold it slightly.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I did. If you want to change your mind,
Speaker 1: that's fine. My mind went there. You listen, we said,
Speaker 1: don't even think about it. You clearly didn't, UM when
Speaker 1: you made your decision. That's that's fine. Ryan Holland, has
Speaker 1: been such a pleasure having you on the show. Uh
Speaker 1: for like percent of the show, such a pleasure. You
Speaker 1: nailed it and then, but thank you so much. Where
Speaker 1: where can people you know find you? Follow you here?
Speaker 1: You all that good stuff? First off, my my day
Speaker 1: job is with the Houston Rockets. Shout out for the Rockets, Um,
Speaker 1: color commentator. I'm living the dream. I can't believe they
Speaker 1: still allow me in the building. I wasn't supposed to
Speaker 1: be there as a player, and now I get to
Speaker 1: be there as an analyst and get to talk about
Speaker 1: the game that I love. So I'm having to blast
Speaker 1: myself and Craig Acroman just have fun on the broadcast
Speaker 1: and NBA Rookie life. You gotta check out a pot
Speaker 1: it just started. It it's a short, it's a fun listen. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get NBA's future stars on, have those young
Speaker 1: guys on talking about their experience and what they're going
Speaker 1: through as rookies. I'm gonna have some of the o
Speaker 1: G the Legend of Veterans on. I'm talking about their
Speaker 1: rookie experience, and I think people need to know what
Speaker 1: these young guys go through. Imagine, imagine like dreaming about something,
Speaker 1: you live through that dream. So just kind of getting
Speaker 1: these guys, and I think it'd be real fun as
Speaker 1: the pod developed to look back and hear some of
Speaker 1: these guys how excited that we were, how bright they were,
Speaker 1: and uh, we we have some fun with him. But
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really cool and you can check it
Speaker 1: out anywhere through my heart and the NBA. So I
Speaker 1: am a blessed happy man to sit around and talk basketball. Man. Guys,
Speaker 1: you know we could we could do this a lot longer,
Speaker 1: Like I really really like basketball. Yeah, man, this was
Speaker 1: really fun. Thank you. We are happy men to have
Speaker 1: had you on. You don't sound happy, Jack, You know
Speaker 1: I took that loss a little hard. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you. I'm choking back a sob
Speaker 1: as you can see, I mean the listeners can't see,
Speaker 1: but there are tears streaming down my face. But that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's normal. It's normal. It's it's what happens
Speaker 1: sometimes when you lose um. But yeah, honestly, Bryan, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. What anytime, guys, huge fans and you know,
Speaker 1: keep up, keep up the work, seriously, keep it up,
Speaker 1: keep going. Man. We did we had hoop talk. Is
Speaker 1: it keeps our spore going? Awesome? Man, We'll certainly try
Speaker 1: all right, Ryan arab Boost. These listeners of the week
Speaker 1: were Paul Garaventa, Uh one of the greats for making
Speaker 1: sure we saw an absolute bomb from Dame where it
Speaker 1: wasn't even like the shot clock was running down. He
Speaker 1: was just like, so you're not gonna guard me out here. Look,
Speaker 1: we've seen long shots before, but he was legitimately standing
Speaker 1: just inside the half court him, him and step to that.
Speaker 1: At the All Star Game a couple of years back,
Speaker 1: when they were just like trading mid court shots, just
Speaker 1: casually pulling up and drilling them every time, was that
Speaker 1: last season? That was last year, last year of the
Speaker 1: year for yeah, it was recent, but this was like
Speaker 1: an actual game. So yeah, I appreciate how the players
Speaker 1: just continue to push the boundaries of what we thought.
Speaker 1: You know, what we once thought the game you should
Speaker 1: or or did look yeah? So you can follow us
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Matt boost These. We are back next
Speaker 1: week with a whole another episode of the show. Until then,
Speaker 1: Bye bye, happy NBA. Watching this has been Jack and
Speaker 1: Jabari signing out. I don't know how to sign out
Speaker 1: like it. I just want to keep talking. This is
Speaker 1: I don't mean to laugh. I'm laughing because you said
Speaker 1: bye bye by my and my famous sign off, bye
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