1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,599 Speaker 1: You're going to get an exclusive here. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: I got called by these folks saying they wanted to 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: do a documentary on Nickelodeon, and. 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 3: So I said, sure, the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: What a way to kick off the weekend. 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 3: Mark Sommers is here, Thank you, How are you well? 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 3: And we told everyone Mark Summers is coming in. Everyone's 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 3: just kind of melted. 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, is he going to slim? You got 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: a reputation, you know, throughout my entire career. That's what 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: people are afraid of that I'm going to slim Double Dare. 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about it. 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 3: Let's talk about well, there's several things we're going to 14 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: talk about today, let's start with Double Dare. Of course, 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 3: this would you say, arguably put you on the map. 16 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: Me and Nickelodeon at the same time talk about it. 17 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: They were running bad puppet shows at four in the 18 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 3: morning mostly and nobody was watching the channel, and they 19 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 3: decided they did a research, you know, focus group, and 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: kids said they lived vicariously through their parents game shows. 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: They'd watched Prices Rider, we didn't have their own show, 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: and so they came up with this thing where they 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: were getting rewarded for getting messy, and they had auditioned 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: a thousand people in New York. Didn't like anybody, and 25 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: came to LA. I was the first person to audition. 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: They auditioned me four times and it came down to 27 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: me and another person and. 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: I called him up and I said, you're shooting in 29 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: two weeks. What's going on? 30 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: They said, well, we can't decide because when they did 31 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: the auditions, they had grown ups playing the part of kids, 32 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: and they didn't know if we were good with kids. 33 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: So I suggested, why don't you fly us both in 34 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: New York and put us in a studio with kids, 35 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: And that's what they did and I got the job. 36 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: And I said, well, after two thousand people, why did 37 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: I get it? And they said at the end of 38 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: his audition, he said, you guys done. You want me 39 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: to do something else? And I looked at the camera 40 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: and I said, we'll be back with more doubledare after this. 41 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: I threw to commercial and they said that was more 42 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: professional and that changed my life. 43 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: Wow, something so simple even meant so much? It did 44 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: you know? 45 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: And there's a line in my actors in the show 46 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: when I say, who would have thought that watching TV 47 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: would be the smartest thing I ever did. 48 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: But I just did what I thought host did. Obviously, 49 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: you were a TV nerd growing up. 50 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: That's all I did. I watched TV twenty four to seven. 51 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: Bob Barker was my idol, right, and my first job 52 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles was writing Truth or Consequences of the 53 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: last year he hosted that show. So I'm twenty two 54 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: years old and here's this, you know, guy that I've 55 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: looked up to forever. And then I became a page 56 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: at CBS and I was a page on Prices, right, 57 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: So I got to know Barker and he was my 58 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: mentor for a number of years. 59 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: Wow. 60 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: And then you know, as a page, I was working 61 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: on Sonny and Share and All in the Family and 62 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: holy crap. Yeah, that was like the coolest. I thought 63 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: I'd died gone to heaven. That was the best it got. 64 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: I was happy with that. I was there the last 65 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: day they did the Sonny and Share show when they 66 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: announced their divorce. Oh my god, and Cherre just wanted 67 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: to get the hell out of there, and Sonny didn't 68 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: want to ever leave. 69 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: And it's two in the morning. 70 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: He's throwing a football back in the area trying to 71 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: delay things, and they finally got them on stage to 72 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: close it. 73 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: You should write several books over everything that you had witnessed. 74 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 3: I mean, okay, maybe not write a book, how about 75 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: do a play. Another reason we invited Martin comc is 76 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: he is this off Broadway show called The Life and 77 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: Slimes of Mark Summers, and of course doubled Nickelodeon all 78 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: a part of it. But do you go back and 79 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: talk about these amazingly interesting stories. I do how you 80 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: grew up on TV or behind the scenes. 81 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I relay all that information in more 82 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: and sort of the turning point of the show. We 83 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: played double there for about ten minutes and we grab 84 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: people out of the audience, and of course they love this. 85 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: But the one thing I didn't know when we were 86 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: doing double Dare was all the mess they didn't tell 87 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: me about the obstacle course. When we audition first day 88 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: in the studio, they're pouring chocolate chirrup on a slide 89 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: and they're mixing whipped cream and I said, what are 90 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: you guys doing and they said, well, this is the 91 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: obstacle course. I said, what's that and they said, well, 92 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: at the end whoever wins, they have to go through 93 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: this stuff. Well I didn't know that what I had 94 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: had a name, but I had obsessive compulsive disorder and 95 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: I was a neatness freak and everything had to be 96 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: perfect and I could not have you a drop of 97 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: anything on me. And now I've waited till I was 98 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: thirty four years old to get this opportunity, and I go, Okay, 99 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: now what are you gonna do? You're not going to 100 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: blow this. So I went through it, but internally it 101 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: was driving me melse through this. 102 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean with OCD. 103 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, arguably Doubledare are the messiest show. 104 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: In the history. Thank you? Oh you know too much 105 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: about the show? 106 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I had to make a decision do you 107 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: wait thirty four years and get this opportunity and blow 108 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: it or do you go for it? And at one 109 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 2: point after I was we do sixty five episodes, I 110 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: don't get a mess on me? And the focus group say, 111 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: we'd love the show, but we want the host to 112 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: get messy. So the network comes to me and said 113 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: you got to get the stuff on you and I 114 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: said why and they said, because that's what they want. 115 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: Did you explain to them that there's an issue here. 116 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know what it was yet, and so 117 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: so I started to get messy. But as soon as 118 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: I would get dumped with stuff, I would start to 119 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: take off my clothes in front. 120 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: Of the audience. 121 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: I'd start on my shows and then executives would say, 122 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: can you do that like behind those kids? 123 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, this kids here, and I just wanted to get 124 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: out and take a shower and get back. 125 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: Wow. 126 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: So we do five hundred and twenty five episodes of 127 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: Double Dare. We toured it around the country. We were 128 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: filling the palace of Auburn Hills with twenty thousand peace 129 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: on a weekend without any problem. And fast forward the tape. 130 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: I do a host. I host a show on Lifetime 131 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: Television called Biggers and Summers, me and Sissy Biggers, and 132 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: we have an expert on, doctor Eric Hollander, who discusses 133 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: he's an expert on obsessive compulsive disorder. So I'm doing 134 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: the research in my apartment here in New York the 135 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: night before and I'm saying, oh, God, I do that, 136 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: I do that. Oh this thing has a name. So 137 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: I have to make a decision. Do I go on 138 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: television the next day and pretend I don't have this, 139 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: or do I come out? And I came out and 140 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: the next thing I know, I'm on Oprah and I'm 141 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: on the Today Show and I'm on Howard Stern. Remember discussing, Yes, 142 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: I did all this, and my parents stopped talking to 143 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: me because they said, you know, because I mentioned that 144 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: they did it. It was hereditary thing, and they said, 145 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: we don't do that stuff, and they cut me off. 146 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: And you know, it was a very stressful time. I 147 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: was supposed to host Hollywood Squares and they find out 148 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: about the OCD thing and saw it and they fired me. 149 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: What Yeah, I cut the promos. Hi Mark Summers joined me, 150 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: you know, on the new Hollywood Squares and they made 151 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: the announcement at the CBS Affiliates Meeting standing ovation, and 152 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: then I get fired. 153 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: The only slim going on on Hollywood Squares is paul In. 154 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: I'm brollaing in the raincoat around that guy. 155 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: So horny. Anyway, moving on, Yes, sir. 156 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: So talk about the beginning days of doubledare Oh my, 157 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: so low budget. 158 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: I'm assuming nine thousand dollars in an episode we shot 159 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: at WHYY in Philadelphia because New York studios were too 160 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: expensive for Nickelodeon, and nobody there really had done a 161 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: game show before. I was the only one. I had 162 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: written game shows or whatever. And the first day we 163 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: were there we were supposed to shoot four episodes. We 164 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: barely got one done because when we went to the 165 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: obstacle course, the first thing was called Nightmare. It was 166 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: a pillow filled with feathers, and the first time we 167 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: did it sixty seconds, nobody does anything. Somebody forgot to 168 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: put the flag in the thing, so we stopped. Okay, okay, 169 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: and so then they put the flag in, but the 170 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: kids turn the thing upside down and all the feathers 171 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: were on top of the thing. 172 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: They couldn't find it again. 173 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: It took us three times before we actually got the 174 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: first obstacle course run, and all the executives were Nickelodeon 175 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: where they're holding their. 176 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Heads, going what have we done? 177 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: And the next thing we know, we become the biggest 178 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: hit and we put Nickelodeon on the map. You know, 179 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: if you get a rating and cable now at a 180 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: point two or a point three, that's massive. We were 181 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: getting fives, not fives. Five, And they said I read 182 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: an article broadcasting magazine, which I don't even know what 183 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: still exists, but they said the three most important people 184 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: to get cable going first was Larry King on CNN 185 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: because his kind of show didn't exist, Gallagher because of 186 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: his comedy specials on Showtime, and me on Doubledare because 187 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: I got kids to tell their parents to go get 188 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: cable because they wanted to see the show where they 189 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: jumped into five thousand pounds of baked beans. 190 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 5: I think it was also every kid's dreamed to be 191 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 5: on that show. 192 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, to this day. Yeah, yeah, see, that's it. 193 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 194 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 2: I think if we brought it back as an adult 195 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: show with be massive. But you know when we pick 196 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: people from the audience to come up, who are all 197 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: your ages, they're like, they become six years old again, 198 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: it's fantastic cool. 199 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: Well, so triple there, we'll call it. 200 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: So Mark, they were paying you, I'm sure a fortune 201 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: to host this show back in the five hundred bucks 202 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: an episode. 203 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: That's it. 204 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty five hundred bucks a week, which is, by 205 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: the way, the most money I'd never made up to 206 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: that point. Right, but then we went into syndication. 207 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: Right, I was an adult when Double Dare was out 208 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: right as you were. 209 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: But a lot of people here were kids. 210 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so Gandhi's parents wouldn't even let her watch 211 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: TV really, but tell them the only wholesome show that 212 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: would always be wholesome until till today that they let 213 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: you watch was. 214 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: Really look how that turned out? 215 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 7: That man, Well, haven't watch anything. But when I would 216 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 7: go over to friends houses and Doubledare would come on, 217 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 7: I'd be like, yes, I'm over here. Yeah, so now 218 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 7: I get to watch this and I loved it. 219 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah. 220 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: There used to be something called playground talk where kids 221 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: would tell the other kids there's this crazy show where 222 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: the giving away trips to space camp, and so they 223 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: would go to the other friend's house who had cable 224 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: like you did, and that's that's what opened the doors. 225 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: So Scotty Bee, who's over there in the Scotty talk 226 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: about it? 227 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 8: Well, I mean we used to get in trouble as 228 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 8: kids because we always wanted to play in the ear, 229 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 8: you know. 230 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, in one ear and out the other show. 231 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, So we would we would get cottage cheese and 232 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 8: we would color it with green food color, oh my, 233 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 8: and we would get it all over the walls and 234 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 8: we stained the walls in the house, and we would 235 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 8: get in trouble all the time, but we were constantly 236 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 8: doing the physical challenges for we had to take it outside, 237 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 8: you know, as we progressed, because we made these big, 238 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 8: elaborate things. But I mean, that's all we ever wanted 239 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 8: to do. And then as I got older, we wanted 240 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 8: to be on Family Double Day, of course, you know, 241 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 8: and we sent in our applications, but that never happened. 242 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: The stories of parents who said to me they're living 243 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: in dining rooms were ruined because kids would make their 244 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: own slime and obstacle courses through there. And so one 245 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: year I opened my door for trick or treat Halloween 246 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: and lady goes, oh my god, I'd hear that guy 247 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: from Nickelodeon. I said, yeah, can I tell you my 248 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: kids have destroyed my house because they're copying everything like that. 249 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: And the next morning I got up and there was 250 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: styrofoam in all of the beds of my uh you know, 251 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: flowers and trains, yes, and landscaping because that was their 252 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: way to get back at me. 253 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: So yes, story did Now did you come up with 254 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff. After a while, that was 255 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: alm the story. Yes I did. 256 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: I was one of the writers and exec producers, and 257 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: the most fun was testing physical challenges from six to 258 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: nine every night with kids because nothing worked, so you 259 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: had to figure out what. One day, they did a 260 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: thing where they made paper planes and you had to 261 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 2: throw it into a mailbox on the other side of 262 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: the stage, and I said, this will never work. Okay, 263 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: this will never work. We're gonna do it. Okay. 264 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: So I looked at the. 265 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: Camera and we're doing it, and I said, Okay, this 266 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: is a physical challenge that I don't want to do. 267 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: Folks. 268 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: I don't think it'll ever work. But if one here's 269 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: the deal. They have twenty seconds to get one uh 270 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: a paper plane in the mailbox. If they do it, 271 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: I'll give you my house. I said, okay. 272 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 6: Oh, Mark on your market said go the first, first 273 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 6: one right in the mailbox. They got close up of 274 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 6: me and I said, well, we'll discuss this during the commercial. 275 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: Yes, so nay. Growing up in Erie, Pennsylvania, I mean 276 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: was an event. 277 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 9: My brothers and I would watch this and I have 278 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 9: to ask you Mark, yes, sir, because we would watch 279 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 9: this and critique the kids doing the charity. 280 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you'll probably pick a red team or a 281 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 2: blue team, and then figure out why you could do 282 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: it better exactly. 283 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 9: But then even the individual kid, I remember, I'm like, 284 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 9: this kid's a little dumb ass. 285 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: Come on, you did do it. 286 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 9: You were so magnanimous hosting. But in your head do 287 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 9: you think, oh, come on. 288 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: Come yes, yes, yes, And the network was always very protective. 289 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: I will tell you a story that I've never told him. 290 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: I should probably be very careful about this. But Drew Gasperini, 291 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: who introduced me to Alex Brightman, who wrote our show, 292 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: I love Alex. Alex Brightman is the best guy ever, he. 293 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: Said in this very chair. Yeah, when he's beetle juicy. 294 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: Beetlejuice and uh, he's spaml out now and he did 295 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: School of Rock. He's brilliant. So he wrote this show 296 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: and he wanted to do a show. This is now 297 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: ten twelve years ago, the most disgusting show in the 298 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: history of New York. So we're at Joe's pub. I'm 299 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: am seeing this show, okay, and Alex was doing dirty 300 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: high coups. I mean it was the whole thing was 301 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: just so insane. But they showed an obstacle course of 302 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: me saying you know, you gotta get through there, you 303 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 2: gotta grab the flag. He got ten seconds and then 304 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: we rolled it back and I said, this is what 305 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: I was really thinking when they were doing that, And 306 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: God forbid, if anybody would have a tape of that, 307 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 2: I would never be working in. 308 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: This business again. But you know, you do think. 309 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: I was thirty four when I started that show, Okay, 310 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 2: And by the way, I never wanted to do a 311 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: kid show. 312 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: I just wanted to host a show. 313 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: So the reason I think the show was successful in 314 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: many ways is I didn't talk down to the kids 315 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: and say. 316 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: Mahbi, do you have a girlfriend. 317 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: I talked to him like they were grown ups, and 318 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: I would screw around with him and they would, you know, 319 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: fight back with me, and it was actually fun. So 320 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: I think that all those things contributed. But yes, in 321 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: my head, I was going, you can't get that gets 322 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: right there in. 323 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Front of. 324 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: Just turning us on Mark Summers. Is here the new 325 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: off Broadway show. It's called The Life and Slims of 326 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: Mark Summers. Not it's only going on till June. You 327 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: check in a sixteen week run. We gotta make sure 328 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: there's a lot more to the show than your double 329 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: Dare days. I'm gonna get into that. 330 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: Garrett. 331 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: Did you have a memory from growing up on Staten Island, Well, 332 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 4: it's great to finally meet my babysitter, like this was 333 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 4: the after school special, I mean first, And if my 334 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 4: mom was here, she'd be yelling at you right now 335 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: because I would say, hey, they can pick their nose 336 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 4: on Double Dare, why can't I pick my nose? 337 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: And she was like, well, you don't have. 338 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 10: A flag up your nose. 339 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: We can make that out. 340 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 10: I mean to the fact where I was so addicted 341 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 10: to Double Dare where I would bring the flags to 342 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 10: the bullpit and McDonald's and really and put the ball 343 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 10: and put the flag in there and try to like 344 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 10: time myself to see if I could find the flag. 345 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: You were a ball pit, Oh of course. 346 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 10: I mean to the point where I would go to 347 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 10: Universal to see if you guys are taping down there 348 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 10: just by chance, and everybody be like, well, let's go online, 349 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 10: let's go on King Kong, let's go I was like, no, no, 350 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 10: I need to get on Double now. So thank you, 351 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, no, thank you. 352 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. I do people do get people like they help 353 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: you and start crying. Yes, all the time. 354 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable because the memories that they have and the 355 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: other reason they do it we talk. The show takes 356 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: a dramatic turn halfway through. When I discovered I had 357 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: obsessive compulsive disorder, I was hosting the talk show and 358 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: doctor Hollander comes on and I had been on National 359 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: TV that I haven't So people who come to the 360 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: show have obsessive compulsive disorder, A lot of them do, 361 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: and they stay at the stage door and want to talk. 362 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: And the amount of people who I've hugged and who 363 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: have been crying after the show has been quite amazing. 364 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: And the fact that we're sort of getting this message out. 365 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: When I got diagnosed, there was no help pretty much. 366 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: Now you can take medication, cognitive behavior therapy, all sorts 367 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: of things. 368 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: But back in the. 369 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: Day when I discovered I had it, there wasn't a 370 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: lot going on. So, yes, there's a lot of warm 371 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: and fuzzy moments going on after the show one hundred. 372 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: See, that's the thing. This show has been on for 373 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: thirty years. 374 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: So when I went out on a book to where 375 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: and when we go out, they're like, you know, their 376 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: grandkids listen to us now and so I see. But 377 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: there's the bond here is this when we look back 378 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: to our childhood years, those as innocent as they could 379 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: have been and should have been years, and connect with 380 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: them now when we live in this fed up world 381 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: that we live in. It does bring this peace, yes, 382 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: and we connect with the innocence and the times that 383 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: made us so happy and Mark Summers. 384 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: You do that. You still have the ability to do 385 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: that now. Obviously it's so odd. 386 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: I grew up with Soupy Sales who right when I 387 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: was a kid, he was the person who did kid 388 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: shows and I became friends with Soupye and that was 389 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: like dying to going to heaven kind of moment. And 390 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: I guess, unbeknownst to me at the time, that I 391 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: am that too, an entire different generation. You know what's 392 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: so funny is the other day somebody said, well, you 393 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: signed my program and I said sure. I said, do 394 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: you want me to mention something about double there or Unwrapped? 395 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: And they said, what's double there? 396 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 6: Wow? 397 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: Wow. So there's a whole. 398 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: Generation of people who don't even know me from that. 399 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: They only know me from the Food Network. I was 400 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: there for twenty years. 401 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: Well, Unwrapped is one of the best shows ever. Thanks. 402 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: So, I mean the premise of Unwrapped is at least 403 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: the history isn't think we buy every day? 404 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: Yes, where do they come from? Where do they come from? 405 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: And you know whyser? 406 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: You know of different colored em and ms and you 407 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: know what do they used to make the mike and 408 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: ikes taste the way they do? And I did, you know, 409 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: hundreds of episodes of that for eleven years, and then 410 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: I execut produced Dinner Impossible and Restaurant Impossible. So I've 411 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: had this crazy life where I started off as a magician. 412 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: I became a regular at the Comedy Store in seventy 413 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: six with Dave and Jay and Robin, and then you know, 414 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: become a host of a kid's show. Then I'm at 415 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: Food Network, and you know, now I am off Broadway 416 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: doing a one man show. So it's been quite an 417 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: interesting run of events over the last seventy two years. Oh, 418 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: I've been doing this almost fifty years. 419 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: Was talk it? I mean in a car accident once 420 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: you broke every bone in your face. 421 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I was coming back from a restaurant and possible shoot, 422 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: didn't wear a seat belt and yeah, the credit card 423 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 2: machine hit me and broke every bone in my face. 424 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: That was a lovely moment. Credit card machine. Yeah, you 425 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: know that when you get ran into a credit what. 426 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I was sitting on the back of the cab 427 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: right and you know the thing where you oh yeah 428 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: and I the guys slammed on the brakes, hit the 429 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: center divider, and. 430 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: My head went right into the credit card machine. In 431 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: a life of cancer, not one, not two, but three 432 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: bouts cancer? What kind of cancer? Was it? 433 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: A chronic elymphatic leukemia? And I'm on medication I will 434 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: be for the rest of my life. They're only fifteen 435 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month for the pills, but yeah, it's 436 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: given me alive. 437 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: So yeah. I went through chemo twice. 438 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: Third time I was on immuno therapy didn't work and 439 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: that's why they tried the pills in a work. 440 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: So yeah. 441 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: So we see these people that we love and we 442 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 3: adore and that we either grew up with or we 443 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: continue to learn from. On TV, you never really stop 444 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 3: all the time to think about, well, this is a 445 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: human being who's living a life of maybe being married, 446 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: maybe not, maybe be with OCD or you don't know 447 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 3: where they came from or where they're going. 448 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: You just know who they are while you're watching it. 449 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: And Elvis, that's why I did this show. And I 450 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: also have a podcast called Mark Summers un Wraps, and 451 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: it's based on the fact that you go to a movie, 452 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: TV show, Broadway show and you go, boy, the person 453 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: on that show is so lucky, and it's like, no, 454 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: they work their asses off to get there, And what 455 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: is it about some people who can go over under 456 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: a round or through the wall and other people go, now, 457 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: I'm not doing this and they retreat and I'm more 458 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: interested in the people who figured out a way to 459 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: get where they're going. We had Richard Kain on recently, 460 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: we had Kevin Pollack on, we had Highway Men down on. 461 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: We've had some really good people tell their stories. And 462 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: everybody in this room has this story as well. You're 463 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: not sitting here because somebody called you up and said 464 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: I want you to work here. You figured out a 465 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 2: way to get in this room. 466 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: Not everybody can do that. Amen. 467 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: Hey, So doing a one man show about your life, 468 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: what do you learn from it? 469 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: Don't mind? 470 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: I mean it's the same as when you write a biography. 471 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: An autobiography, you actually learn a lot about yourself. This 472 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 3: has to be that times ten. 473 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: It's an emotional roller coaster on a nightly basis because 474 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: I'm up there telling the story that I lived, and 475 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: some nights I get so emotional. 476 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: I do break down. 477 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: I could never control it in certain moments where I'm 478 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: reliving the moments, because if you're going to tell the story, 479 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: it's got to be authentic. You can't go up there 480 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: and pretend to do the story. You're telling them about 481 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: your life. So yes, it's very emotional. It's sort of 482 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: like less expensive than going to a psychiatrist on a 483 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: regular basis. And I do learn a lot about myself. 484 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: But at this point in my life, it's funny. I 485 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: used to go on stage when I worked the Magic Castle. 486 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: I would throw up every time before I went on and 487 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 2: did a show because I had no idea what I 488 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: was doing. I am so confident now and I don't 489 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: get nervous. I can't wait to get to that theater 490 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: and perform this on a nightly basis. And you know, 491 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: it took me this long to get that confident though. 492 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: But that journey was necessary. 493 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, I could have never done this 494 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: even five years ago, I could have never performed it. 495 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: The best compliment I got. Brightman saw me initially when 496 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: we started this eight nine years ago, and he hadn't 497 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: seen me since opening night. We did open the nineteenth 498 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: of February, and he came up to me and he said, 499 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: I gotta ask you a question. 500 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: I said, what's that? He said, when did you learn 501 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: to act? And I broke down. 502 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: I thought, coming from Alex Brightman, that was a really 503 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: emotional moment for me. 504 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: But you aren't acting. It's it's a combination of things. Selvis. 505 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: It's fascinating. 506 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 9: Okay, So I have to ask you this question, yes, sir, 507 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 9: and I asked this with all due respect. I heard 508 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 9: an urban legend one time that you would have to, 509 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 9: in regards to your OCD, vacuum yourself out of hotel rooms. 510 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: Is that true? No? 511 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: All these you know things between me and Howie Mendel 512 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: that have been made up, how he used to put 513 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: towels down on the floor and get a pair of 514 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 2: tongs to take the bed sheet off, and all. 515 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: The time in hotel rooms. 516 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: I would do that without exactly Yeah, none of that stuff. 517 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: But you know I didn't do I can, by the way, 518 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: I'm a great vacuumer, and at my house I can 519 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: vacuum out of every room without a footprint. I mean, 520 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: I can teach you that if you want. But no, 521 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 2: that thing about the hotel, that that never happened. So 522 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: but thank you for asking. Yeah, now, all those urban 523 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: legend things happened. 524 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: You know. 525 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: I was doing another radio show and a guy said, 526 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: I came up to you an airport. You refused to 527 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: shake my hand. 528 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: No, I didn't. I shake everybody, Okay. Funny thing is 529 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: when you arrived, I said, can we shake his hand? 530 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to make you uncomfortable. We love you. 531 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: It was never germ phobic. 532 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 2: It was all about cleanliness and orderliness and you know, 533 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: putting things symmetrical and making sure everything was perfect. As 534 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, the studio is making me nuts. 535 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: Could you turn that up? 536 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 5: I used to I feel like I used to like 537 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 5: touch things like four or five times. Oh really, even 538 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 5: when I would go through stores, I would like rearrange 539 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 5: things in the store and I'd be like, and then 540 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 5: I'd walk away. And the funny thing is you and 541 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 5: I talk about that. Our thing is odd numbers. I 542 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 5: used to have to everything, even amount of see. 543 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: Some people are even some people are well the rule 544 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: book with people who see changes on a daily basis, 545 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: it really does yeah. 546 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yeah that yeah odd numbers. 547 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: So isn't that weird that people have to flip a 548 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: light switch so many times? 549 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: Or walk in uh to a room? 550 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: So Daniel will walk into a door and she cannot 551 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: leave through another door. She has to go out through 552 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: the door. 553 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 5: I came in that way, I'm going out down because 554 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 5: and you know, because then you get these thoughts, you 555 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 5: haven't thoughts gonna happen. 556 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: See, that's in my show that I was afraid that 557 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: if I my room wasn't clean, that when my parents 558 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: got in the car, they'd get in a car accident 559 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: and die. 560 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: So that's why you kept doing that? 561 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 5: Why do we why do you think those things? 562 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: Well, I'll send you the doctor's number and sold. 563 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: If I'm walking down a staircase, if I drag my 564 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: left heel on the step, I have. 565 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 1: To even and out with my right. Really I do. 566 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: But I don't think there's doom on the way. If 567 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: I don't, I just don't know what it is. I mean, 568 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: I live a life of doom. Any Ways, I'm already 569 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: paying the price. 570 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: I still have trouble in grocery stores where I get 571 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: fixated on reading labels, and so my wife goes grocery 572 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: shopping without me because I can get stuck in a 573 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: place and you know, you say yourself, I have to 574 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: read it perfect. 575 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: Well what does perfect mean? You know? 576 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: And when I was doing the talk show here in 577 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: New York, they our execu producers said get out of here. 578 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: Driving us crazy. I would make the staff nuts, so 579 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: he threw me out and I would walk from one 580 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: in the afternoon until nine, up and down the streets 581 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: of New York. But sometimes would get stuck at a 582 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: place reading you know, a sign in Tiffany's over and 583 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: over and over again, and you know, you get stuck 584 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: and then you got to get yourself out of it. 585 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, thank god, I don't do that 586 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: much anymore, but it is still. I always say I'm 587 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: eighty two percent cured. I don't think you're ever one 588 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: hundred percent cured. 589 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: Well, I guess if it slows you down, if it 590 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 3: stops progression or progress in life, then you got to 591 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: address it. 592 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: Yep. Scary. I just want to say I love you, man. 593 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: I have no questions, very kind, no questions, just a few, 594 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: just some love for you. 595 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 11: Thank you, I love it. That was the most beautiful moment. 596 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 11: I love these guys. Those are fantastic. 597 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 7: I have a question on a completely different topic, because 598 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 7: you've done one hundred things. You talked about all of it, 599 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 7: from doubled Air to Unwrapped, and now you're doing this play. 600 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 7: I most recently saw you and quiet on the side 601 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 7: that just came out. Oh my, how was that being 602 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 7: able to talk about all that? Was that like a 603 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 7: cleansing feeling to you to finally be able to say, like, hey, 604 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 7: I wanted to advocate for these kids, and I saw 605 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 7: what was going on. 606 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: Let me tell you about that. You're going to get 607 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: an exclusive here. 608 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: I got called by these folks saying they wanted to 609 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: do a documentary on Nickelodeon, and so I said sure, 610 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: and I went there and they asked me what I 611 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: thought of Nick and the first ten or twelve seconds 612 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 2: from want I understand this documentary or me saying all 613 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: these wonderful things, but they did a bait and switch 614 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 2: on me. 615 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: They ambushed me. 616 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: They never told me what this documenting was really about, 617 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: and so they showed me a video of something that 618 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe was on Nicolos and I said, well, 619 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: let's stop. 620 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: Tape right here. What are we doing. Well, we're doing 621 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: this thing. Do you know this guy? And all this 622 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and I left. Okay. 623 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: So I got a phone call about six weeks ago 624 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: saying you're totally out of the show, and I went great. 625 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: Then they called me about four weeks ago and said, well, 626 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: you're in it, but you're only in the first part 627 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: of it because you talked about the positive stuff of Nickelodeon. 628 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: What they didn't tell me, and they lied to me about, 629 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: was the fact that they put in that other thing 630 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 2: where they had the camera on me when. 631 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: They ambushed me and uh away. 632 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: So now we get into a whole situation about who's unethical. 633 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 7: That's a very interesting I had no idea. I was 634 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 7: wondering about so many of the interviews that they've done 635 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 7: and how they did it. 636 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: I never met Dan Schneider when we got done doing 637 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: Doubledare and we had run our run. Those people came 638 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: in after and took over our studios. Never met the man. 639 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: Have no idea about any of those things. I mean, 640 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: I know Keenan from Keenan and Kel because we've done 641 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: stuff together. But as far as anything that happened on 642 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: that show with any of those people, I never met 643 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: any of them. I didn't know anybody, but they made 644 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: it seem like I knew those people. 645 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 7: Definitely did. 646 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 3: They knew exactly what they were doing a documentary about, 647 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 3: and ethically they should have said something to you about, 648 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 3: you think and given you a shot to say, I 649 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 3: don't know them. I shouldn't even be there. You're If 650 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: I knew something, maybe i'd come talk to you, but 651 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: I don't. 652 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 5: Is there anything you can do about that now? 653 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: Or well, there's a phone call coming in today at 654 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: three o'clock. There we go. 655 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 7: This is exclusive. 656 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: Love it look, you know, I through it all. 657 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 3: You obviously make so many people so happy for so 658 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: many reasons. And the fact that you're doing your your show, 659 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: The Life and Slimes of Mark Summers is just another layer. 660 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: And so do we have more layers to come? 661 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Are you? 662 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: Are you? Are you ready to move forward into something else? 663 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: Or what do you want to do? 664 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: What do I want to do? 665 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: Well, there's a possibility we could tour this. That would 666 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: be one thing that we've just Gus doing it for 667 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: streaming services. Another discussion going on. But you know, the 668 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: one thing that has eluded me is actually being in 669 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: a Broadway show. And I auditioned for Waitress a couple 670 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: of years ago and they told me, quote that I 671 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: could never play that part. 672 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: I was playing old Joe. 673 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: I try to because they said that I played it 674 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 2: too young, that I had too much energy, and I 675 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 2: had a little in my voice that I do not 676 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: come across as an old man. 677 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: Sort of a compliment. 678 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: But you know, I put the word out there that 679 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: if there's any Broadway producer who has not I don't 680 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: need a. 681 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: Lead like a third you know lead kind of thing. 682 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: One song and one thing aligne. You would play the 683 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: wacky neighbor. Yeah, you know the Wizard would be the 684 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: great one song. Yeah. 685 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well there's a debate on that. Brighten Television. Not sure, 686 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: but let's pretend I can. But you know, playing the 687 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: Wizard in Wicked would be you know, the kind of 688 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: perfect role, you know, twelve minutes on stage for a 689 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: couple of scenes, something like that. So you know, I 690 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: put that out there. If it happens, fantastic, But I'm 691 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: gonna tell you Elvis if this is as good as 692 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: it gets, I'm the happiest man in the world. 693 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: That's amazing, amazing. Are you one of these guys people 694 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: who's always thinking, I'm gonna keep working till the day 695 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: I kick. 696 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: One hundred percent? 697 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: Peter Marshall, my friend who was the host of Hollywood Score, 698 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: absolutely just turned ninety eight years old, and a few 699 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: years ago I said to him, you know, I think 700 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop doing this, and he said, Mark, all 701 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: my friends who stopped doing it died, do not ever 702 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: stop doing this stuff. 703 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: And so I keep moving forward. Let me keep moving forward. 704 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 705 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: Well, even though I say I'm I'm retired, I'm always 706 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: thinking of ideas and trying to pitch him I where 707 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: I live, Dennis Miller is one of my neighbors. And 708 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: Dennis and I have lunch when I'm home every Wednesday, 709 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: and he's one of the most intelligent humans I've ever 710 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: met my entire life. We have different points of view 711 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: on certain things, but having conversations like that and Roth 712 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: who did Funhouse, and Dennis Miller and we discuss the 713 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: industry and shows and things like that, and so yes, 714 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: I'm always inspired. It's harder to get meetings now because 715 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: I'm an old guy. They want to meet with people 716 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: who are less than half my age. And so even 717 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: though I have this reputation of having success, although I 718 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: will tell you that right before I got this Broadway show, 719 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: off Broadway Show, I was asked to host Tik Tak Doe, 720 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: which they're bringing back, and I had to turn it 721 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: down because here was my feeling. I've hosted many shows, 722 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: but I've never done a show in New York off Broadway, 723 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: and I thought, well, you know, I got to do that. 724 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: So I turned it down. And I don't look back 725 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: and say, wow, I should have taken that job, because 726 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: I've done that before. This is something that's all new, 727 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: and the excitement and the energy it takes is much 728 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: more exciting than go and say, well, if you answer 729 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: this question, you get three hundred dollars. 730 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: I've done that before. 731 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: You know what you have, your audience, and you know 732 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: exactly who they are. I do, and so there's opportunity there. 733 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: So I bring this question up for a friend. Ask you, 734 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: for a friend, what do you do when you've been 735 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: doing it for so long you're kind of wondering what's next? 736 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: You can't sell you. You just can't stop. I'll let 737 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: them know, yes, yes, yes, can please do. 738 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: But you know the fact that this week I did 739 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: the view I did Sherry CBS Morning Show. The fact 740 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: that anybody still wants me on these shows is fascinating. 741 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: But the people who are producing and are hosting these shows, 742 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: like all of you, grew up watching me, and so 743 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: they want to reminisce. And so that's the advantage that 744 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: I have to a certain point. But you know, just 745 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: because and I have no idea how old you are, 746 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: but I know I'm a lot older than you. There's 747 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: no reason for us to stop. Seacrest always says to me, 748 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: he hates me because my voice sounds the same now 749 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: as it did when I was in my twenties and thirties. 750 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: He said, you should sound like an old man at 751 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: this point, and I don't. He said, Summers, you pissed 752 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: me off. So yeah, so you know, we just keep 753 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: doing what we're doing. 754 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: Man Mark Summers in the Life and Slimes of Mark 755 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: Summers is going on until June, So you got to 756 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: get in there right now and. 757 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: We'll be there. Thank you, Mark Summers, thank you. 758 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: And by the way, if you go to ms DARE 759 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: twenty four is your code on telecharge, you can get 760 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: tickets as little as thirty nine dollars. 761 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, repeat that. 762 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: Ms DARE like Mark Summers and double dere ms DARE 763 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: twenty four at telecharge dot com and you can get 764 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: tickets as low as thirty nine dollars. So do that 765 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: and we'll see you there. 766 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: You're on sale, Helvis. We all are. Some of us 767 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: are complimentary. The Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge