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Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to

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Speaker 1: Welcome Ronny of the Car Doctor. Here. So a twenty

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Speaker 1: six team Toyota four Runner. Nice vehicle, seventy two miles

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Speaker 1: of Innanian kid, all right, the army kid much worse,

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Speaker 1: But the kid who was like, you know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I let her drive the suburban, let her drive the bus.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's the advantage of you know, having the

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Speaker 1: to look at this. So here's this seven the six

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Speaker 1: like you're driving over a rumble strip. As a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, we had a call similar to this complaint

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Speaker 1: I believe fluid in the possibility of having a fluid issue.

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Speaker 1: So here's number three because in recent in the last

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Speaker 1: my second one in the shop that here. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: Toyota claims, and we fixed the truck. It was it

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Speaker 1: but they're saying that it's rated for well. I've heard lifetime,

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Speaker 1: And while we're at it, let's go. I want to

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Speaker 1: It's warmer there. It's warmer there, right, Alan, not much today,

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Speaker 1: think it's seventy four, Alan, want to the next call? Please?

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Speaker 1: being a what? Alan surfactant? What does that break? It

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Speaker 1: thank you very much, and I really, I really like

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Speaker 1: right after this. He drives that way, but when it

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Speaker 1: was something that's summer Mike. You went, what where? Where

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Speaker 1: are we? What? What? What day of the week is it? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Which means it's almost T shirt weather? And I keep

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Speaker 1: I gotta do that this year. I just I haven't.

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Speaker 1: car is only worth what it's gonna cost you to

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00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 1: replace it. And you know, that's that's part of the

426
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: of the of the thought process too. It's getting harder

427
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: and harder in my mind sometimes to justify new cars.

428
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're fifty grand. You know my house

429
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: forty years ago, right, you gotta spend fifty g s

430
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: on a on a on a new car, and it's

431
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: it's it's in two years, it's worth thirty. In four years,

432
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: it's worth twenty five. And you know in six years

433
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: you're looking to replace it again. Right, yeah, so you

434
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: know the the the question will come back to the

435
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: original comment, right, is it worth it to put three

436
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: grand in this maximum? First of all, you gotta play

437
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: what if? And if you're a regular listener, I suspect

438
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: you are, and I thank you for that. You've you know,

439
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: you gotta play the what if game? What if the

440
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: trans went bed? Would you put a trans in it?

441
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 1: What if the exhaust system went bid? You know what's

442
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: what's what's common on Maximus at this stage and age.

443
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: It would not be uncommon for it to need a

444
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: catalytic converter or two. And yeah, and and and that

445
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: gets into it. Um. The other thing you've got to

446
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: think about is, without trying to get personal, you think

447
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: about how old you are and how much longer are

448
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: you gonna drive? And I'm not saying you sound real old,

449
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: but you're probably my age group where we both chewed

450
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: on the same dirt more than once. And um, you know,

451
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: you get into your your your mid sixties and into

452
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: your seventies, and you start thinking, you know what, I

453
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: want one more new car, and maybe you do. Life's

454
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: too short, right, it's if you can afford it, you know,

455
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: what the heck with it? It's only fifty gs um,

456
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's only um. Let me ask

457
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: you a question, like like you said, I do listen

458
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: to your show and you have a you advertise the

459
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: product and it's called YEP. And I was coming. I

460
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: was gonna like this, you know, k Seal. And I

461
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: took the long way around the barn to get here

462
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: because I didn't want everybody to think Ron's just trying

463
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: to sell k Seal. I want everybody to look at

464
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: it from all the angles. But the truth is, k

465
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: Seal is what this situation. I wouldn't say it was caseal.

466
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: This is what's This is what Caseal was made for,

467
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: this exact scenario. All right, you know the car that's

468
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: quote unquote worth six needs three and what do you

469
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: do with it? All right, you've got you've you've got

470
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, somebody that's not driving as much as they

471
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: used to. It's it's, you know, a thousand miles a month,

472
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: that's to fifty a week and you just need something,

473
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, will it maintain it, will it last? Will

474
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: it make it work? Um? Yeah, that's what that's what

475
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: case is all about. That's exactly what it's all about. Uh,

476
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: you know we matter of fact, I'll tell you this story.

477
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: So my accountant's wife comes into the shop yesterday Friday

478
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: and we had to change the oil. Lorraine's got an

479
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: O seven Pontiac Grand m Grand Prix, Grand Damn something

480
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: something Pontiac. Uh, the GM three one, that same platform

481
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: as the Malibu and our three five. I'm sorry, and

482
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: it's got cool. It seeps around the heater hoses, the

483
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: radiator hose, everything's fourteen, fifteen years old, but they don't

484
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: go anywhere. The car has got sixty eight thousand miles

485
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: on it. You know, Are we gonna start changing all

486
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: the rubber, all the plastic for the car that I

487
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: don't think this car goes five thousand miles a year.

488
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: It's not that I physically see anything wrong with any

489
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: of the hoses, you know. And yeah, okay, I could say,

490
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: you know what, they're fifteen years old. Let's change everything,

491
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: which is a major undertaking. You know what, how do

492
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: we put a little case seal in it. We only

493
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: used half a bottle. We poured half a bottle of

494
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: K seal in it before the car left the shop.

495
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: Within twenty five minutes, everything stopped dripping. In my eyes,

496
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: it's fixed, I explained it to her, I said the rain.

497
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: I can't tell you it's forever. Chances are it is

498
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: for the amount of mile a you go. You know,

499
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: using k seal is kind of like having a secret superpower.

500
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: You can use it. You can. You know, it'll probably

501
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: save your tail more than a few times. It will

502
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: probably last a good long time. You just can't bank

503
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: on it forever, I like anything else, because the vehicle

504
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: is old. And what problem might we be masking in

505
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: the sense that what created that head gaske at leak

506
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: is the cooling system corrosive? Is there are is there

507
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: are there other issues in your case or in Lorene's case.

508
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: But I've got to tell you, I've got a bunch

509
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: of cars out there just like yours. And I know

510
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting long winded here, and I appreciate your patients,

511
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: but I've got a bunch of cars out there just

512
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: like yours, same scenario, same dollar factors, and everything else. Um,

513
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: they got k CeAl in them three four or five

514
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: years old? Still going, brother, you know it? Would you No,

515
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: I know nothing about cars, so would you start out

516
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: with the hands of uh No. We we only used

517
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 1: we we only used half a bottle in her, simply

518
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: because it wasn't a major coolant league. It wasn't an

519
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: intake Manifold den seal um. And I guess I could

520
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: have over diluted the system. But you know, on her car,

521
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: my gut told me. And sometimes it's just a gut call,

522
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: just half a bottle and sure enough it worked. Um,

523
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: so try that. You can get them out online. I

524
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: think k CEL is ksel dot com where you can

525
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: google it and find it there. And I know you

526
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: can find uh casey a little Riley otto, um, O'Riley

527
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: dot O'Riley otto dot com or Riley Otto parts. So

528
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's worth a shot, Jim. It's you know

529
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: what it's. It's a thirty dollar experiment versus a three

530
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: thousand dollar experiment, and I think it'll give you a

531
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: good results. So do that and give me a call back,

532
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: let me know how it works out for you. I

533
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: appreciate your patients and I enjoyed talking to you today. Well,

534
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: I enjoyed you listening me talking, so um only kidding,

535
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: take good care, have a good rest of the weekend.

536
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: Zo the car doctor is coming back right after this,

537
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: but I'm back. I want any of the car doctor.

538
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to Brian in Massachusetts. Brian,

539
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: Welcome aboard, sir, How can hell? How good afternoon? Now

540
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: you and Ron you're taking my call? Um So, I

541
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: had a question for you about vehicle maintenance software. Um So,

542
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: from the process of opening an internal shop at a

543
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: municipality hasn't been done before. So last time we worked

544
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: on vehicles there was probably twenty thirty years ago, kind

545
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: of starting from scratch. We have a generic work order

546
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: system in place already, but we don't really have any

547
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: specific for vehicles. And we looked at looked at the brands,

548
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, all data, Mitchell, and uh, I don't know.

549
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: Discuriaged by your advice about what the best way to

550
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: catalog like a fleet of vehicles would be from the ground.

551
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of this depends on the vehicles,

552
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: all right in this case, So is it one brand

553
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: or one line of vehicle or is it multiple lines?

554
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: Across multiple years. It's about for it, right, So just

555
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: as important as the service information, what scan tool are

556
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: you gonna have? Are you not going to get into

557
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 1: that depth? That's one of the questions too, because you know,

558
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: all data has the total solution um and then there's

559
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: obviously many different independent scan tool companies out there. They'll

560
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: say a pretty high end product. So integration is one thought.

561
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean, do we have a scan tool and then

562
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: a separate system that the information is getting entered into

563
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: or is it a connected system? That's that's kind of

564
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: the gray area. How how long you've been doing this, Briant?

565
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: If I can ask you that I've been administration site

566
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: for probably about five years, I've been I've been doing this,

567
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, not at the mechanic couple, but at the

568
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: at the meal So a million years ago, or what

569
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: I like to think of is the dark ages. In

570
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: the seventies and the eighties, there was a company called

571
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: Alan Test Equipment and that just sent a shiver down

572
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: everybody's spine. So they had something called an SEA, a

573
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: Smart Engine Analyzer, and it was this big giant box

574
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: that hung from the ceiling. You drive by an old

575
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: garage every once in a while, you still see when

576
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: they're and they still work. You know, they're they're they're

577
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: there's still good product. And um, it was the big

578
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: box theory. Everybody kind of got looped into the big

579
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: box idea and we're gonna, you know, spend a lot

580
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: of money and buy this and the machine is gonna

581
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: do the thinking for us. And you know, I guess

582
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: it worked until the next model year rolled around, and

583
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: then we had to find out we had a pay

584
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: program updates and get it updated, and then the problem

585
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: has got more and more complex, and then you know,

586
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: ten twelve years later, that tool was outdated and and

587
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: and and out the pastor um and and that's sort

588
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: of the trap I think we could get into. You know,

589
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: we buy a snap bond Zeus or whatever the version

590
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: is now it's been seventeen thousand dollars, which is what

591
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: it is, and you know, and and and it's it's

592
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: a good tool. I'm not saying it's not. We've got

593
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: a Motus in the shop. I like my Motus, but

594
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm always cautious on depending on just one tool, and

595
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: in your situation, you've got to kind of count on

596
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: that one tool, Alright, Yeah, I I would probably buy

597
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: a Ford I D S. The fact that so so

598
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, and I would probably think that the I

599
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: d S is where you want to be, because that's

600
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: your shotgun, that's your ace in the hole, that's your

601
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: Oh hey, we've got to flash this program at coded whatever.

602
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: This is always going to get us out of the

603
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: hole that we're in. All right, Um, then you need

604
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: an everyday scan tool. You know, not every guy is

605
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna be able to relate to the ideas how many

606
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: how many texts are gonna around this place too? Three four?

607
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: So so yeah, you know, it's so, it's it's it's

608
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, and and and and here's where maybe that

609
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: snap on Motus fits in. All right, it doesn't have

610
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: to be there, high end zeus. You can buy a

611
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: Motus for like five six seven grand, all right, it'll

612
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: conquer most of It's a good, everyday, solid, everyday tool.

613
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: And then you think I need I think you need

614
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: one more. I think you need an O B D

615
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: two only scan tool, something quick and down and dirty

616
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: at the at the front door that you know, you've

617
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: got to send one guy out on a road test

618
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: and the other guy's gotta work on it. And UM,

619
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: you know so, I think that's the scan tool scenario.

620
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: As far as service information, UM, I'll tell you what.

621
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: Let me pull over and take this pause, and when

622
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: I come back, I'll finish out with you. Real quick.

623
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm needing the car doctor. Don't go away. We're back, Brian.

624
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: You're still there, so real quick, because I've got one

625
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: more to do. Um. What I would take a look

626
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: at is identifics. Are you familiar with identifics? I have?

627
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: And look into that one. Alright, go look at identifics.

628
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: The nice thing about identifics is because you're gonna start

629
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: to find pattern failures and commonalities because you're dealing with

630
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: one brand and a fleet. And then the nice thing

631
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: about identifis is they also give you access to dealer

632
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: level service information. So contained within there you'll find Ford

633
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: service information. With contained within there is GM service information.

634
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: If you get the occasional GM and I think there

635
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Speaker 1: were a good fill in the gap in between. The

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Speaker 1: bad thing is nothing standardized. So Ford service information, you

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Speaker 1: look up Forge Way GMS, you look up GM's way.

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Speaker 1: You know Chrysler's you look up Chrysler's way. All data

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Speaker 1: Mitchell standardize it. So you look it up one way,

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Speaker 1: the same way for every car line. All right, um,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's a matter of budget. We at the shop,

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Speaker 1: um identifics Mitchell all data. Uh, I I a t

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Speaker 1: N diagnostic dot net. I mean, you know we've got

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Speaker 1: we've got everything, but we're we're looking at a lot

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Speaker 1: of crazy stuff. The one thing I can tell you

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Speaker 1: is you can't have enough service information and the repair facility.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely you gotta have it all. And that's what

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Speaker 1: that's what really kind of makes it works. But you

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Speaker 1: know you're starting out, you're on a budget, so let's

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Speaker 1: start slow. Identifits maybe what you need, it will help

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Speaker 1: fill in the gap. Good luck, and let me know

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Speaker 1: fill in Vermont real quick, sir, I got a minute.

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Speaker 1: How can I help? Hi? Ron? I just changed my

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Speaker 1: intaking exhaust camshaft solenoid valves. And while I get it

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Speaker 1: all apart, that part went good, but I noticed the

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Speaker 1: throttle body is real cruddy and and I don't have

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Speaker 1: any throttle body cleaning. Can I use carburetor cleaning? No,

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Speaker 1: it's too cost. It really is. Um. You know it's

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Speaker 1: it's there's rubber seals on the throttle shaft and if

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Speaker 1: you get any of that on the rubber seals, they say,

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Speaker 1: And I, you know, I don't know this firsthand, but

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Speaker 1: this is the industry's message, is that carburetor cleaner is

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Speaker 1: too costs that can't break the rubber seals down. There's

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Speaker 1: lubricant on the rubber seals and it will affect that

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Speaker 1: as well, so you really should. Unfortunately, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to get a can of throttle body cleaner and use

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Speaker 1: that and just be gentle and gingerly. And you may

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Speaker 1: want to think when you get it all back together,

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Speaker 1: other disconnect the battery cables and do a memory reset

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Speaker 1: so that the idle correctly appreciated. Fellows on any card OKERD.

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Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you