1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike, and today I have an 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: interview with the writer from Air that even if you 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen the movie yet, I think you will be 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: inspired by a story and his passion for writing makes 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: me feel like Hollywood is in good hands with the 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: next generation of writers. In the movie review, it's finally 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: time to talk about the Super Mario Brothers movie. And 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: in the trailer Park, we're diving into Spider Man across 10 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: the Spider Verse and all my theories going into that movie. Welcome. 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: If you are new here, I hope you subscribe and 12 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: stick around. And now let's talk movies. 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: In a world where everyone and their mother has a podcast, 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: never before in a movie podcast. A man with so 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: much movie knowledge, he's basically like a walking IMTB with glasses. 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: From the Nashville Podcast Network, this is movie Mike's Movie Podcast. 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: About to get into my interview with Alex Conberry. He 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: is thirty years old and Air is his first first 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: produced screenplay ever. He wrote it as a spec script 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: after he watched The Last Dance on Netflix back in 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. And what a spec script is. It is 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: when a screenwriter writes a script to a movie in 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: hopes that will be purchased by a producer, a production company, 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: or a studio. Kind of along the same lines as 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: a songwriter would just write a song hoping that someday 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: a big artist would find it, like it and want 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: to record it. So Alex's story is very unusual that 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: the spec script he just wrote ended up getting made 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: into a movie and has had so much success. And 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: even if you haven't seen the movie Air, which is 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: all about the creation of the Air Jordan's show, I 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: think you will enjoy this interview and be inspired by 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: his passion for writing, his love of movies and wanting 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: to create things that he himself will want to sit 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: down and watch. So let's get into this interview now 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: with Alex Convery. What has the last month been like 38 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: in your life? 39 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: The last month has been a lot of cruss screenings, premieres, interviews. 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: You know, I'm like an introverted writer at heart, so 41 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: this has been like you got to come out of 42 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: your shell a little bit and have a bunch of 43 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: small talking answer, a bunch of questions, which has been good. 44 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 3: You know, it's a good exercise, but we're winding down 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: a bit, so I'm excited to, you know, just be 46 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: back at my desk writing. 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: I find that I kind of identify with you in 48 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: that way, Like outside of this, I'm a pretty quiet 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: and reserved person. From my main job, I am a writer, 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: but I have such a passion for movies and talking 51 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: about movies. This is kind of how I've had to 52 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: get out of my show being more extroverted. For you, 53 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: your entire life, You've just been writing things, and now 54 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk to you. They're all inspired by 55 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: your story. So what was that like initially of like, 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: oh man, now I got to speak to people. People 57 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: want to know my story. 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: You know. 59 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: It's interesting, like the life of a working screenwriter, Like 60 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: a lot of the time is spent not writing. You 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: do meetings, right obviously, but you also are putting together pitches, 62 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: and whether it's you're pitching an original project or you're 63 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: pitching on like a studio's ip, there is an element 64 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 3: of it where you know, there's a bit of performance, 65 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: you know, which is which is really kind of antithetical 66 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: to what a screenwriter should be, you know, like it's 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: what you're saying, we're like the nerds who you know, 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: like being alone with with with you know, just with 69 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: final drafts. So it's interesting, man, I don't know, it's 70 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 3: there's a lot to the job more than than than 71 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: just writing, you know, Interior Nike, nineteen eighty four. You know, 72 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: it's like there's all this other stuff that comes with it. 73 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: When it comes to your creative process. And we were 74 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: just talking about how much of your creativity is sparked 75 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: by just being bored, because I find that sometimes when 76 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm so busy doing so many things, it's hard for 77 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: me to sit down, like, all right, now's your time 78 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: to be creative. 79 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: Well, I look for characters first and foremost, you know, 80 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: characters that are that are interesting, that have like a 81 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: clear journey to go on that I think would be 82 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: fun to write, that I'm excited to write. 83 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: You know. 84 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: It's so hard to write, you know, truly, Like the 85 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: easiest thing in the world is just not to write. 86 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: There's so many other things you could be and things 87 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: that can occupy your time, Like you really have to, 88 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: at least for me feel passionate about something to like 89 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: actually get in final draft and get going on it. 90 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: So I look for characters that spark, you know, and 91 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: you know, for Air, it was sunny, you know, like 92 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: it wasn't even so much the shoe or or the world. 93 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: It was just Sonny was such a fascinating character, and 94 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: to me, this is such an interesting way into his story. 95 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: And he was such a fun character to write, you 96 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: know that because of who he is in real life 97 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: and the life he's lived and the places he's been. 98 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: So I chase characters, you know, and I try to 99 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: find stuff that I'm excited to write about, which sounds 100 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: like obvious orry Well, obviously you want to write about about, 101 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 3: but like it's easy to lose that passion very quickly, right, 102 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: you have to do rewrites a million times, or especially 103 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: where I was as like an unproduced screenwriter, you're chasing jobs, 104 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 3: you know. So it's like sometimes you can talk yourself 105 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: into being passionate about it, but like really deep down, 106 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: it's like it wasn't there, and the script and the 107 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: movie really has been a lesson for me in chasing 108 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: those projects that like deep in your core are exciting, 109 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: you know, and like you want to be at the 110 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: desk working, you know, because so so you know, usually 111 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: it's it's the exact opposite feeling. It's like, oh gosh, 112 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: I guess I have to do some pages today, right, 113 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: But when you can find something that's like, man, I 114 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: can't wait to get back into the script and get 115 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 3: back to working, like that's a that for me is 116 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: can be a rare feeling. So it was this one 117 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: was a lesson and like chase that because this was 118 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: a script that, especially written on spec you know, they 119 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: would tell you not to do right. I mean, it's 120 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: about real people and there are rights issues and all 121 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: of that, and like the odds of it getting made 122 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: are just so so low. But for me, it was 123 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: it was the passion that that really kept me going 124 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: because it was like, man, I just I love these characters. 125 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: I love writing in this world. And it was a 126 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: real lesson, you know, like going forward, that's really the 127 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: type that's really the only type of stuff I want 128 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 3: to be working on, right, And that's easier said than done, 129 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: But you know, it was kind of chasing that gut 130 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: feeling that that you know, got got the movie to 131 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: to where it now. 132 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: I love hearing you talk about your passion because when 133 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: I watch air A lot of what drove me to 134 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: the story of Sonny is how passionate he was about basketball, 135 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: how passionate he was about pursuing Michael Jordan, how he 136 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: just felt it in his soul, like I know this 137 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: guy is going to be the guy. So what else 138 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: are you just that passionate about, like Sonny? 139 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: Well, you just look back to my past scripts and 140 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, you don't have to like the 141 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: line isn't too far from like stuff I love to 142 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: to what I write about. You know, the script I 143 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: wrote before Air was called an Excelsior, and it was 144 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: a biopic about you know, stan Lee and Jack Kirby 145 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 3: and kind of those early origins of Marvel comics. And 146 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: that was because I grew up as a huge comic 147 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 3: book kid, you know. But I love the people behind 148 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: the thing, you know, and like finding those type of stories. 149 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: And obviously, you know, we don't have to go into 150 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: the whole history of Marvel, but it was a very 151 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: unlikely story to get from you know, two guys working 152 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: in a janitor closet at a magazine company in nineteen 153 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 3: sixty two to you know, Guardians of the Galaxy three 154 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: coming on in a couple of weeks you on, that's 155 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: just like, what an incredible journey that that marvel has 156 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: has gone on. I justaid, like, gosh, it would be 157 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: cool to tell kind of the beginning of that. Before that, 158 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: it was script about college football, right, and kind of 159 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: like the underbelly of college football. And that simply came 160 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: from me being a massive college football fan. 161 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: Right. 162 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: So it's like you hear a lot in film school, 163 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: they tell you write what you know, you know, which 164 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: can be taken very literally, right. You could write a 165 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: movie about your childhood or growing up, I mean, and 166 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: there's many examples of that, from Moonlight to Dazed and 167 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: Confused to Lady Bird. You know, those are all very 168 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: personal stories that feel like, you know, they're almost like 169 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: someone's guts being spilled on the on the screen, not 170 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: in a gory way, but in like a passion way. 171 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: For me, I didn't really have that story, right. I 172 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, basically in a 173 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: John Hughes movie, right, which was very nice and pleasant 174 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: and and all of that. But I certainly didn't have 175 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: some you know, a movie out of it. Maybe one 176 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: day I'll find, you know, that idea but I didn't 177 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: have it. So it was like, okay, so what do 178 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: when you say write what you know? What do I know? 179 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: Well? 180 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: I know about Michael Jordan in the nineties, bulls, right, 181 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: I know about Marvel Comics and Stanley you know, I 182 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: know about college football. So it was like, you know, 183 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: it was it was kind of looking at the stuff 184 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: that left to my own devices. I'm going to geek 185 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: out over anyway, and it's like, is there a movie 186 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: in there? Is there a script in there? Is there 187 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: a character in there that that you know you can 188 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: kind of latch onto and and go from there. 189 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated with the writing process and how this movie 190 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: started out. You've been talking about, you know, watching The 191 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: Last Dance. You see that part in the documentary where 192 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: they briefly mentioned the Michael Jordan Nike connection. How do 193 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: you sit down after you're inspired by that, after you 194 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: google it and see that you know, there hasn't been 195 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: a movie made about it, how do you sit down 196 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: and write that script? 197 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 3: Well, you start with Faden on page one. Now I'm 198 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: kidding it. It It goes back to what we're talking about, 199 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 3: which is finding the character right, because this is a 200 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: movie that Obviously you could tell from a lot of 201 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: different points of view. Right, it could be an actual 202 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan biopick. Right, it could be about Phil Knight, 203 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: it could be about David Fok, Jordan's agent. It could 204 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: be about Peter Moore, who actually designed the sneaker, you know. 205 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 3: So it's it becomes a question of, Okay, what angle 206 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: is is you know, kind of the most interesting and 207 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: most compelling on this. Now, because I was doing it 208 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: as a specscript, I knew right away, like I'm not 209 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: going to do the Michael Jordan biopick, right, that's just foolish. 210 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: And if like this is already unlikely enough to get made, 211 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: that actually trying to do the Michael Jordan biopick on 212 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: spec that's just like there's no chance. And by the way, 213 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: Jordan should be the one to tell that story, right, 214 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: And maybe there will come a time and day when 215 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: he wants to do that and is prepared to do that. 216 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: And I think every studio in Hollywood would line up 217 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: at backup the brink strug to do that story. So, okay, 218 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: what are the different angles on it? And it gets 219 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: back to what we're talking about. To me, Sonny, what 220 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: was most compelling because you know, you go through all 221 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: the research and at the end of the day and 222 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: there's a lot of you know, varying accounts and people 223 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: wanting to take credit for different things. But at the 224 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 3: end of the day, all the accounts land in the 225 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: same place that there was only one guy who said, 226 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: I have this feeling in my gut that Michael Jordan 227 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: is a guy we should go all in on. And 228 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: that's just what an interesting epiphany, you know, like in 229 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: terms of its ripple on history. I mean, it is 230 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: it's hard to fathom, you know, if Sonny had had 231 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: that feeling about any other player in that draft, you know, 232 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 3: not to be hyperbolic about it, but the world is different. 233 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: You know, we have air stocked in or Air Booie 234 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: instead of Air Jordan. So it is it was, gosh, 235 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: what drives someone to have that sort of conviction and 236 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: determination and feeling And that's all stuff I just found, 237 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: you know, universal in a way too, right, in a 238 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: way that you know, obviously this is a movie about 239 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: basketball and Nike and you know kind of like the 240 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: nitty greed of how that process works. But I just figured, man, 241 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: anyone sitting in that audience has probably been where Sonny 242 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: was at some point, right, like employee number five hundred 243 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: at a company where no one's really listening to you, 244 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 3: but you have this feeling. And it's like everyone has 245 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: had a feeling or a dream or a gut instinct 246 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: at some point in life and you know, wanted to 247 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: chase it. So for me, it was like that that's 248 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: a really accessible place to tell the story from. 249 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: Now. 250 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: The way to reach a universal feeling like that is 251 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: through specificity, right, which is where like the nitty gritty 252 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: of the draft process comes from. But no, I mean really, 253 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: and this was a specscript, right, So it was like 254 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: I just wrote it all on my own, and I 255 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: really just wrote it in order. Like this isn't one 256 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: that I outlined or did a treatment to for or 257 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: like got notes on in advance. I just one it's 258 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 3: a true story, right, so like the outline is kind 259 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: of already done for you because it's it's you know, 260 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: it's history. So it was really it was kind of 261 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: a nights and weekends project, right. I had other stuff 262 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: that was paying me to write at the time, and 263 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: that's always the stuff I was focused on focusing on, 264 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: like during the day, but this was like you know, 265 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: nights and weekends. I mean I really wrote most of 266 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: the script from between the hours of like ten pm 267 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: and like two am, you know, like after my wife 268 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: would gone to bed. It was just me alone and 269 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: like with my headphones, and I would just go back 270 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: and like you know, work a scene or two, and 271 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: I really just wrote it in order. And it was 272 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: an interesting process because sometimes I would most of the time, 273 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: I would just start right at the beginning, you know, 274 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: and I would read through the script as if I 275 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: was just like back in my intern days, reading some 276 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: random script by some random guy named Alex Convary, and 277 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: I would say, like what would I think of this script, 278 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: you know, like really trying to remove myself from the process, 279 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: and I would just keep going until something bumped, and 280 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: then I would work on that and then keep going 281 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: and something bumped, I do it again. So it was 282 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: like it's a very unique process and not necessarily one 283 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: I would recommend, because it's hard to replicate this obviously 284 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: being a true story in a very like short period 285 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: of time, like kind of gave me the frame, the 286 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: framework was already inherent in the story in a way 287 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: that isn't there for like most ideas, So I don't 288 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: know if I could ever replicate this exact process again. 289 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: Certainly wasn't the fastest process in the world either. I 290 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: mean it took me a year to write, which is, 291 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: you know, a long time for the for a first 292 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: draft of a you know, one hundred page screenplay. But 293 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: you know, it's what worked for me on this one. 294 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of this movie, a lot of 295 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: the conversations take place over the phone. And I grew 296 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: up in the nineties, but this movie made me nostalgic 297 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: for the eighties, just so the fact that I could 298 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: slam a telephone. What has been the most important phone 299 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: call that you've ever received in your life? 300 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: There are a couple, you know, like I mean dating 301 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: all the way back to like getting the first call 302 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: from you know, the guys that would end up being 303 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: my agents saying like we read your script, bag man 304 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: and are interested in meeting with you for representation. It 305 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh, you know, that's the call that, like, 306 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: you know, in a lot of ways, I've been dreaming 307 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: of since moving up here for film school. Now at 308 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: the time, I was like, oh my gosh, I made it. 309 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: But it's like, Nope, there's still so much work that 310 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: has to go into it, you know. You know, obviously, 311 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: getting the call on this one that that you know, 312 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: Ben was interested and I was going to meet with him, 313 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: that was an important one. I mean, the call after 314 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 3: Ben had met with Jordan basically saying, like, Jordan has 315 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 3: given his blessing with a few you know, as long 316 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: as we can accomplish these notes and we're good to go. 317 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: I mean, that was that was huge. And then I mean, finally, 318 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: really the call from the producer saying, like, you know, 319 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: Amazon is going to finance the movie be that. That's 320 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: like again, like in terms of calls you dream dream of, 321 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: like that's that's kind of the list on a spec script, 322 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: you know, like those are all the ones you need 323 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: to get, and every one of them is very unlikely 324 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: in its own way. And I had come to learn that, 325 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: you know, over my thirteen years living out here, that 326 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: it's those are very few and far between. Usually it's 327 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: getting a phone call saying like, yeah, they didn't like 328 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: the script, that actor passed on it. Well, time time 329 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: to move on to the next one out. This project's dead, 330 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: like you know, so it's just like you get used 331 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: to it. That that the good ones definitely stand out. 332 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: What was the stress like waiting for the final approval 333 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: that Michael Jordan has given its blessing on the film? 334 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: You know, like, what can you say? I mean, it was. 335 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: It doesn't get more stressful than that. I mean, it's 336 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: just like when you lay out what that meeting kind 337 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: of meant for, you know, again, I was just like 338 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: I was an unproduced screenwriter and like we had everything 339 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: else ready to go on this one, and it was 340 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: basically like, if Jordan gives his blessing, then like we're 341 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: going to do the movie. And obviously it was Ben 342 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: and Mad and She's like, oh my gosh, what a 343 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: you what a dream scenario on this one. But just 344 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: as easily it was like I, you know, I kind 345 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: of figured what what incentives Jordan have to do any movie? 346 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: You know, like he he doesn't need to do anything 347 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: unless he wants to. So look, it's a credit to 348 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: Ben that Ben was able to like earn his trust 349 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: and lay out all of what we were wanting to 350 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: do with this movie. And and you know, have Michael 351 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: recognize that that's a very like a person. I would 352 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: have been scared on my mind sitting there for that meeting. 353 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: You know, shocker, Ben knows what he's doing, you know, 354 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: so it was yeah, I you know, it would be hard. 355 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: I'd be hard pressed to think of like a more 356 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: stressful twenty four hours than than that one when professionally 357 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: at least. 358 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: So you got to be on set during the filming 359 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: of this movie, which is pretty unusual for a writer. 360 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: What was your role being on set? 361 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: You know, look, mostly I was just there to take 362 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: it all in. You know, the script was fairly locked 363 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: by the time we got there. You know, like like 364 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: Chris Tucker had already done a lot of work on 365 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: his character Howard, and and you know, Ben and Mann 366 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: had done a pass on the script and a lot 367 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: of that was already in place. Now when you know 368 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: when we every day when we showed up, there was 369 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: a little bit of invention here and there, you know, 370 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: from like Bateman like really bringing comedy to his scenes 371 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: and like that dry sense of humor. You know that 372 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: it was in the script a little bit, but like 373 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: he really embodied it to you know, like, look, it's 374 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: one thing to write the movie, but then you show 375 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: up on set and it's like, well, the blocking's not 376 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: quite right and like maybe we cut this line and 377 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: move that around, and like that's just the creation that 378 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: that that that happens on set. You know, it's not 379 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: like I was sitting there like directing it or you know, 380 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: adding a bunch of input. You know, Ben Ben obviously 381 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: knows what he's doing. But no, it's just there, you know, 382 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: kind of kind of taking it all in and enjoying 383 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: it and you know, helping when it was needed. 384 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: I feel like Air is more a comedy than actual comedies. 385 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: When I went to go see it in theaters, the 386 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: entire theater was laughing throughout the entire movie. And you 387 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: mentioned a little bit of you know, Jason Bateman adding 388 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: some comedy to his scenes. Was all that comedy written 389 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: into the script or was it just once you had 390 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: all these characters together, once you see it all unfolding, 391 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: that it kind of came naturally. It was just a 392 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: little more just like, oh, this is actually a funny movie. 393 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 394 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: I mean, look so much of that in the performance, 395 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: and and all credit to the cast. You know, like 396 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 3: a lot of the like dry sense of humor in it, 397 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: Like look, you could play that straight, or you could 398 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: play it humorous, or you could play it somewhere in between, 399 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: you know, and that what I love about the movie 400 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: is like, those are the type of movies I like watching, 401 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: you know, Like, and I'm a big believer in you know, 402 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: not putting something in a box, you know, just like, oh, 403 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 3: this is a comedy, this is a drama. You know. 404 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: It's like, to me, the best work, I like, the 405 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 3: best dramas have moments of humor in them, and the 406 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: best comedy is always rooted in dramatic stakes. You know. 407 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 3: So it's like the type of movies I like exist 408 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 3: somewhere in between those two. And you know, I certainly 409 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 3: tried to write it that way, but no, without the 410 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: cast we had, like, there's no chance it would be 411 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 3: nearly as funny as as the movie is. 412 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: You know. 413 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: That's been one of the real joys of getting to 414 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 3: watch it in a theater. You know, this was supposed 415 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 3: to be a streaming movie, and you know, all credit 416 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: to Amazon. They they you know, really took a chance 417 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: on it and and said we're gonna, you know, we're 418 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: gonna put it out there. And it's just been such 419 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: a joy to be able to go into you know, 420 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: a pack instant in the back and just you know, 421 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: kind of watch people go on that ride with the movie. 422 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: So when the movie comes out and you see that 423 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent rutten tomato score come out after that, 424 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: is there any whispers, any text messages or emails going 425 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: around like hey, maybe there's a chance for an oscar here? 426 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: Does that ever kind of come into existence or it's 427 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: just something nobody else. 428 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: Like make Oh no, I mean gosh, it's just it's 429 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: just so far out and like there's just so many 430 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: different things that can happen. It's like, look, my job 431 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 3: is done, right. It's just it's you write the script, 432 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: you film the movie, and you put it out in 433 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: the world, and you know it's not your place to 434 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: say how it should be received and who should receive 435 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: it and why, and you know what you should be 436 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: awarded for it. Like that's the part of the process 437 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: of zero control over. So you know what I've learned, 438 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: you know, over my thirteen years out here, is like 439 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 3: you can't emotionally invest in the results, right, you have 440 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: to emotionally invest in the process. So it's like, as 441 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 3: long as I am enjoying writing it and believing that 442 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: the script was, you know, the best I could do 443 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: at that time then, like, you know, the rest is 444 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: really up to up to which way is the wind blowing? 445 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: Right? 446 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: And it's like, if you can't control that part of it, 447 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: which I don't, then it's not worth losing sleepover, you know, 448 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: because life is short, and if you have no control 449 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: over it, then then what's the point of sweating it? 450 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: Right? 451 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 3: This is why I always wonder why I'm a sports 452 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: fan to begin with, because I have no control over 453 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: how the Bulls are playing or how the Bears are playing. 454 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 3: Yet I somehow emotion invest myself in in the results 455 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 3: of their games. But no, that's about as far as 456 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: I could go. 457 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: So you're about the same age as Ben Affleck and 458 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Matt Damon when they wrote Goodwill Hunting and this being 459 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: your first you know, credited movie, do they offer you 460 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: any kind of advice of where to take your career 461 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: from here next? 462 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 463 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, not so not not like directly. 464 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the getting sole credit on the 465 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: movie and all of that, and having you know, Ben 466 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: tell me, you know, personally about that was just a 467 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: very like surreal to be kind of part of that 468 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 3: like lineage. You know, it's still hard to out my 469 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 3: head around but no. You know, something ben As said, 470 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: which I've really taken the heart, you know, over the 471 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: last couple of months here is like, you know, he 472 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: really is a believer in good scripts, you know, and 473 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: that if it's not there on the page, it's not 474 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: going to be there on the stage, as they say. 475 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 4: You know. 476 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: He's also talked a lot about the projects you turn 477 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: down and say no to are in a way just 478 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: as important, if not more important, than the projects you 479 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: do decide to take on and say yes to, and 480 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: goes back a little bit to what we were talking 481 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: about earlier about like really having to love a project, 482 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: you know, and really feeling the passion for it, and 483 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: if it's not there, then you know you shouldn't do it. 484 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: That's hard when you're young and you've been wanting to, 485 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 3: you know, do all the projects in the world for 486 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 3: so long. You know, it's like the gut instinct is 487 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 3: to say yes to everything, because it's like Hollywood is 488 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: crazy and you just don't know, you know, how long 489 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: a moment like this can last. So you know, take 490 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: it all while you can get it, and and that's 491 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: the that's kind of the gut instinct. But one hundred 492 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: percent see where he's coming from. Where it's like, you know, 493 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: like we were talking about, you really got to love something. 494 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: You really really have to be married to a project 495 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: to want to do it and take it on. 496 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: Did you keep anything from the set? 497 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to get in trouble, but you know the 498 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: cafeteria where they where they steal the candy from in 499 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: that scene where Mann and Jason are working later over 500 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: the weekend, on the last day, I was like, well, 501 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: it would only be fitting if I also take something 502 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: from here. So yeah, I have a I have one 503 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: of those coffee mugs that that was sitting on the shelf. 504 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, it's right what they say, 505 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 3: it's not stealing it. 506 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no work in the register, you can take it. 507 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 3: That's right exactly. 508 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Did you get any free Nike stuff from working on 509 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: this movie? 510 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: Not free, but I was, you know, like when these 511 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: things happen, there's like you get like a start gift 512 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: when the movie starts in a rap gift when the 513 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 3: movie and so from like you know, multiple agents and manager, 514 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: you know, producers and the whole deal. So you can 515 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: imagine on this film what most of those gifts were. 516 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: But yes, those were you know they kindly uh you know, 517 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: bought those shoes. Uh. And then yeah, it's it's been 518 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: a nice part of it that I've definitely expanded my 519 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: my Jordan collection by a bid. 520 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: Do you get a rap gift from from that or 521 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: from Ben? 522 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: Well? 523 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: You know, like the way it works is like the 524 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: whole production gets it right. So it's like, you know, 525 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: it's you get like a production T shirt that that 526 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: you know says casting through like you can find you 527 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: can find those for almost every movie that you know 528 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: that's been made on eBay. You know, did you see Nope. 529 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: You know that's King Orange hoodie that that he's wearing. 530 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: That. 531 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: That's like that's basically what what like a rap gift is. 532 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 3: So you know, I love that part of Nope because 533 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 3: it's like it's it's very kind of inside Hollywood. You know. 534 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: I I when I was in college, I interned on 535 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 3: the set of mad Men and similar thing. You know, 536 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 3: I got like my season five T shirt and on 537 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: that one we got some rap gifts, like from the 538 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: companies that Don Draper was pitching for. So we got 539 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: like a Samsonite suitcase like a pair of Ravens, which 540 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: is funny and yeah, like a similar thing on this one. 541 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I find it so refreshing 542 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: that you're also just so into every new movie. Like 543 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: as a writer, do you just have to stay up 544 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: to date on like every movie that comes out because 545 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: maybe like you want to write something like that or 546 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: you want to avoid copying another movie. 547 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 3: It's not even that, it's just I love movies. I mean, 548 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: that's it, you know, Like I I this's how I 549 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 3: grew up. I'm just going to the movie theater every 550 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: single Friday and just seeing whatever was out, you know, 551 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: And I miss those days because it was like movie 552 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: going to the movies without pretense, you know, like when 553 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: you're that young, you don't really have a taste yet, 554 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: so it's it's it was you just take everything in. 555 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: And that's still the way I am. I mean, I 556 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 3: just you know, I'm my friends will tell you I'm 557 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 3: much more pretentious now than I was when I was 558 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 3: eight or nine or whatever. But no, man, there's nowhere truly, 559 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: there's nowhere else I'd rather be, like in the world 560 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: really than than than sitting in a dark theater and 561 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: watching a movie. Like there's just still something about it 562 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: that is uh, you know, it's kind of it's my 563 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 3: favorite art form and it's just it's it's I just 564 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: love the theater, you know, sadly shout here in La, 565 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: like we've lost my favorite ones, you know, like ArcLight 566 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 3: Hollywood gone, the Landmark on Pico gone, The Vista in 567 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: most feels is finally reopening. But it's been very painful 568 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: losing those theaters. Man, I like it feels like a 569 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: part of me is is and like a piece of 570 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: the fabric of the community is gone. So it's actually 571 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: went to the last the I don't know if you 572 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 3: know La at all, but the Pico, the Landmark on Pico, 573 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: one of my favorite theaters, especially on the West Side, 574 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 3: closed down last March and the last I went to 575 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: the last showing ever there just because I was like, 576 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: I it's like that's where I've seeing almost more movies 577 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 3: than anything, and there's when I saw everything everywhere all 578 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: at once. There was very just surreal way to see 579 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: that movie. 580 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do go to La a lot for work, 581 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: and I remember seeing Black Panther at the Arc Light. 582 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: So whenever that closed down, that felt like a piece 583 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: of me went with it. Two. 584 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: No. One hundred percent. I mean in the Cineramadome, it's 585 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: like there's just there's nowhere else like it. Man, It's 586 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 3: just the great thing about the ArcLight Hollywood was it 587 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: just felt like a community for film lovers and people 588 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: working in Hollywood, you know, from you know below the 589 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 3: line to above the line. I mean you'd see celebrities there, 590 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: but you'd also just see like other aspiring writers like myself, 591 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: you know, all kind of together, which which like there's 592 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: something you know, I'm sappy and romantic at heart, so 593 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: like I'm going to it that way. But like there 594 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: was something really special about that place, and. 595 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: It would feel like an event when you went to 596 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: a movie there, because they would have things out in 597 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: the lobby and it just felt like there was an 598 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 1: energy to it where sometimes you don't really get that 599 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: movie you just go in there's an empty, bare lobby, 600 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: but there it felt like something. 601 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: I know. That's one of the painful things now going 602 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: to you know, look, I'll go to any movie theater truly, 603 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: but you know, really being restricted now to kind of 604 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: these chain theaters that don't have like the love of 605 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 3: the of the form and like the artists in nature 606 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: to it like you're talking about, I mean the lobby 607 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: of the arc light, from costumes from movies to like, 608 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: you know, I remember seeing the scale model of the 609 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 3: Grand Budapest Hotel in there. You know, it's just like 610 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: that stuff that doesn't exist in your average chain theaters. 611 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: And you know, even like the bar, there's just nothing 612 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: better than going and like you know, having a beer 613 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: before or after the movie and talking about it. And yeah, 614 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: that's just something really painful about losing that. 615 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: Well, because it's been great talking to you, aside from 616 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: just talking about the movie Air, I just love talking 617 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 1: about movies with you. Is there anything you can say 618 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: about what you're working on now? 619 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: Kind of Yeah, I'm doing another I'm working on another 620 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 3: script for sky Dance and Mandolid too, of the production 621 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 3: companies on Air. It's another sports movie, So that's really 622 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: all I can say. You know, it's another true life 623 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: story with real people, so I just want to respect that. 624 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 3: And you know, we're still kind of in the early 625 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: early stages of the process here, but yeah, hopefully that'll 626 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: be the next one. You know, we'll see. I'm into 627 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: the script and you know, working on it as we speak. 628 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: Well, I wish you the best of luck. Man. I'm 629 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: rooting for you and I hope you talk to you again. 630 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Thanks man, this is fun. 631 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: Let's get into a spoiler free movie review now. I 632 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: want to talk about the Super Mario Brothers movie, which 633 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: is now the highest grossing video game adaptation of all time, 634 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: but it's on pace to be the highest grossing movie 635 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three. There's no signs of this movie 636 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: slowing down, and as a kid who grew up playing 637 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: the video game, this movie was everything I needed it 638 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: to be. So before we get into this full review, 639 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: here is just a little bit of the Super Mario 640 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: Brothers trailer. 641 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: My army upas cupas whatever those things are. 642 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: We will Kingdom. Yea Bowser is coming. I'm not afraid. 643 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: I'll do anything for my brother. 644 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: We're going to save him. Yeah. 645 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: So, if you are like me and grew up playing 646 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: Super Mario Brothers, this movie is gonna be a trip 647 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: down memory lane for you, and I think that is 648 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: the reason this movie is working so well and resonating 649 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: so much with audiences. The trouble you always have when 650 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: going into a video game adaptation is how are you 651 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: going to incorporate those things from the video game that 652 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: we all know and love without it feeling cheesy. Now, 653 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: this is one of the first ones I can think 654 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: of that has done it so perfectly because it's animated, 655 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: so what you were seeing on the screen is exactly 656 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: familiar with what you experienced playing this video game. You 657 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: get the characters looking exactly like they did in the 658 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: video game, you get a lot of that same level design, 659 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: so it all feels familiar. The only difference is now 660 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: we are hearing actual actors voice our characters that we 661 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: really haven't heard say more than a few words at 662 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: a time. And after watching this movie, I have to say, 663 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: I think Chris Pratt deserves an apology you from the 664 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: internet everybody saying that he was going to ruin the 665 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: Mario character. He didn't do that at all. We needed 666 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: somebody like Chris Pratt to voice Mario, to be able 667 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: to really make him feel human and not just a 668 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: bunch of catchphrases, and I think Chris Pratt did a 669 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: really good job at that. A lot of standout performances 670 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: in this cast from Anya Taylor Joy as Peach, Charlie 671 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: Day as Luigi, which he just sounds like a cartoon character, 672 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: and it's always suddenly in Philadelphia, so that was a 673 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: really easy casting for him. Then you have seth Rogen 674 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: as Donkey Kong, but the one who crushed this movie, 675 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: and I would say carry the entire movie on his 676 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: back because he was so good at getting into his character. 677 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: Was hands down. Jack Black as Bowser. Jack Black is 678 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: so great at his comedic timing, and he is oftentimes 679 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: a very physical actor, and I felt like he put 680 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: all of that into voicing Bowser. I feel like this 681 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: character took a bit of toll on his voice to 682 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: make it more gravelly sounding. I know they did add 683 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: some special effects on his voice to make him sound 684 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more gruff than he normally is, but 685 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: that combined with his singing ability and just overall comedic nature, 686 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: I thought Bowser was the best thing in this movie. 687 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: I love how the entire movie works through different levels 688 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: of different Super Mario games. Right from the very beginning, 689 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: when you're doing that side scroll opening scene, it goes 690 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: into that classic looking Super Mario side scroll game. I 691 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: thought that was perfect and as soon as I saw that, 692 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: I knew I was in for a good time here, 693 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: and as an adult, I was watching for all the 694 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: little Easter eggs that you would really only know if 695 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: you grew up playing Nintendo. So everything from Mario in 696 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: the opening scene of playing kid Icarus on his own Nintendo. 697 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: That was like some Nintendo inception. And I love the 698 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: subtle use of different Super Mario scores and themes throughout 699 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: the entire movie. Just hearing that sparks some nostalgia for me, 700 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: so I love how they use that subtly. With as 701 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: iconic as the Super Mario theme is. I love the 702 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: way they used it, and I love the way they 703 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: use all different elements from all different games. The one 704 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: thing they showed that I wish there would have been 705 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: more of, but I completely get it, is they kind 706 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: of tease this with some Yoshi in there. There's one 707 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: scene where you see a big group a herd of 708 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: Yoshi running across the screen and you just get a 709 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: small little glimpse at him. I'm sure they're setting that 710 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: up for a sequel. And speaking of that, I often 711 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: feel that sometimes movies don't give you everything in the 712 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: first one because they want to make you come back 713 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: for the second one. I feel like that wasn't the 714 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: case with the Super Mario Brothers movie. Maybe since the 715 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: first live action one didn't work that well, and they 716 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: haven't made one since. They were very careful of what 717 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: they put in, and they also wanted to make sure 718 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: that all different types of fans would be satisfied after 719 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: watching this movie, so they kind of threw it all 720 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: in there. So visually this movie was perfect. I thought 721 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: the voice acting was great. Where this movie lacked for me, 722 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: I think it's because I'm an adult now and the 723 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: story felt very watered down and very basic. So I 724 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 1: think the intention with that is because they wanted this 725 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: movie to resonate not only with kids, but also with adults, 726 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: but also they needed it to appeal to a world 727 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: wide audience, which this movie is not only crushing it 728 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: in the United States but crushing it everywhere in the 729 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: world because Mario is worldwide. So I feel for that reason, 730 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: the storyline was very basic and I wanted something a 731 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: little bit more to chew on. It was a very 732 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 1: quick origin story of why Mario and Luigi started a 733 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: plumbing business and then very quickly get sucked into the 734 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: mushroom Kingdom. Mario and Luigi gets separated in the beginning, 735 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: so Mario makes it his mission to save his brother 736 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: before Bowser gets to him and probably kills him. So 737 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: he does that with the help of Princess Peach. I 738 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: did enjoy the role reversal here because Princess Peach was 739 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: awesome and she's not the one who needed saving. It 740 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: was Luigi. So Princess Peach in this movie was the 741 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: one who was the most knowledgeable, the one who was 742 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: the strongest, and had been in the Mushroom Kingdom the longest, 743 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 1: so she was the one teaching the ropes to Mario, 744 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: and it's his rise to being the hero in this movie, 745 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: but I still think above him is Princess Peach. So 746 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: I think that's a great message for any kid watching 747 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: and maybe is so used to just seeing that normal 748 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: thing of the guy being the hero. That is not 749 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: the case with this movie. Although oddly enough, I did 750 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: find this movie to be kind of dark for a 751 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: kid's movie. There is one character in particular that is 752 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: infatuated with death, which I found funny just on a 753 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: comedic level. But it was a little bit darker than 754 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: I was expecting for a kid's movie, and I guess 755 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: I just wasn't expecting a kid's movie to go there. Also, 756 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: with Bowser wanting to kill Mario, kill Luigi, and kill 757 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: all these other people. A lot of death around this movie, 758 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: so I guess I was expecting it to be completely 759 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: bubble gum and kid friendly. And then even with the 760 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: message in this movie, it is Mario trying to prove 761 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: himself and also trying to get the approval of his dad, 762 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: who kind of thinks he's a loser, and it shows 763 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: you that he has to go through such extremes to 764 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: prove to his dad that he is not just some 765 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: worthless dude who hasn't done much with his life. That 766 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: was also an interesting plot line to explore in a 767 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: kid's movie. Is just a guy named Mario trying to 768 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: get approval from his dad. And then you also have 769 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: Bowser's character trying to force upon a marriage on Princess Peach. 770 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: They have a lot of death issues with dad and 771 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: a forced marriage proposal. I have to say now what 772 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: I was expecting in this movie. So what I take 773 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: away from it is that your parents are never going 774 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: to be satisfied with you unless you save an entire city, 775 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: an entire world, and then finally they'll say, hey, good job. 776 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: So after watching this movie, I now think that every 777 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: video game adaptation should be animated before this one. I 778 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: would say the Sonic franchise is my favorite video game adaptation, 779 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: which is more a live action franchise. Those movies are 780 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: just a lot of fun to me. I like Jim Carrey, 781 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: and I feel like they got the character of Sonic 782 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: down in those movies, But I don't completely put that 783 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: one on this same level. I did have fun watching 784 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat. I think if they make some changes going 785 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: into the Sea to that, that one could be a 786 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: pretty solid franchise as well. Uncharted was fun but pretty forgettable, 787 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: And the other one I would probably compare this one 788 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: to would be Detective Pikachu. But the problem with Detective 789 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: Pikachu is I think as Pokemon fans, that's not entirely 790 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: the movie we wanted. We wanted just straight up Pokemon 791 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: trainer Pokemon battles, and that one feels kind of adjacent 792 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: to that story. While it is in the world, it 793 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: doesn't really deliver like this Super Mario Brothers movie delivered 794 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: because it is exactly like the video games. So I 795 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: think what this movie opens up is definitely more movies 796 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: in the Super Mario franchise. They'll make it two they'll 797 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: make a three. I'm curious to see how since because 798 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: they incorporated different games in this movie, like Mario Kart 799 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: and Super Smash Bros. If they just explore that a 800 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: little bit more, or they go into maybe some of 801 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: the other games, I think there is a lot to 802 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: work with here. I think the Nintendo movies that I 803 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: would like to see after watching this one easy call 804 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: would be a Donkey Kong solo movie because Seth Rogan 805 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: is so great in this one, and just that entire 806 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: world of Donkey Kong Country, I think would be a 807 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: fun one to explore that one could even go more 808 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: into the comedy space. Another movie I would like to 809 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: see would be a legend a Zelda movie. That one 810 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: would be a tricky one to make because I think 811 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: that world kind of teeters on that line of it 812 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: could be great, but it could also just as easily 813 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: be a bomb if you don't cast their pride, if 814 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: you don't have the most entertaining story when it comes 815 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: to Zelda. But I think visually that would be a 816 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: stunning one to make, especially just seeing what they can 817 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: do with the world of Super Mario. I felt like 818 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: a lot of the costume and character design felt very 819 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: real to me. I like seeing the texture of denim 820 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: on Mario, the attention to detail on the hat and 821 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: the face. I would love to see that in a 822 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: Zelda movie. I think the coolest thing ever and we 823 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: got a little taste of it in this movie, would 824 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: be a Super Smash Brothers movie. I think you make 825 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: that the same way you make a Marvel Avengers movie. 826 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: You have your Donkey Kong, maybe Luid's mansion, maybe your 827 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: Yoshi story, maybe a little Metroid, a little star Fox, 828 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: so many of those original Nintendo movies. You have your 829 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: solo films, and they all build into a Super Smash 830 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: Brothers movie. There are just so many stories you can explore, 831 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: and there is so much money to be made off 832 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: a Nintendo So I'm glad this one was a big success. 833 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: I also think this one is doing so well because 834 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: it's right at ninety minutes. Before you get a chance 835 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: to even get tired of it, it's already over. It 836 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: didn't feel like I needed more, didn't feel like I 837 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: needed any less. So ninety minutes animated movie is the 838 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: sweet spot for the Super Mario Brothers movie. Who see 839 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: this is tough because as much as I enjoyed all 840 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: of the visual elements. I did find myself not spacing out, 841 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: but finding that it was hard for me to grasp 842 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: on to a real story here. But I would still 843 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: go four out of five mushrooms. I think that is 844 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: top level for a movie that both appear adults and kids. 845 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: But I think there is a lot more advances they 846 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: can do story wise. But now that the world is built, 847 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: the stages set, I think Super Mario Brothers Movie Part 848 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: two will be in that four point five, maybe even 849 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: a five point range. 850 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 3: It's time to head down to movie Mike trailer. 851 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: Paul, I keep getting more and more excited for this movie. 852 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 1: My highest anticipated movie of twenty twenty three. I'm talking 853 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: about Spider Man Across the Spider Verse, and I've been 854 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: sitting with this trailer for a couple of weeks now 855 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: itching to talk about it because it looks like they 856 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 1: took this movie to an eleven. 857 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 2: Now. 858 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: The first one costs ninety million dollars to make, which 859 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: is a lot for an animated movie, but this one 860 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: is nearing about one hundred and fifty million, and just 861 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: by the look of this trailer, it looks a little 862 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: bit more refined. It looks like what they already did 863 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: with the original one, with creating such a unique animation style, 864 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: which is what makes this movie so fun to watch. 865 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: It's all the little d tails they add in there 866 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: that makes it look like a live action, living and 867 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: breathing comic book. And that is why I enjoy this 868 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: franchise so much and why I think this is the 869 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: franchise that is going to change the way people think 870 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: about animation. And also in a world where we're getting 871 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: a little bit oversaturated with superhero movies, this is kind 872 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: of what they need to do to evolve, create these 873 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: different worlds to keep it fresh. Nobody really questions another 874 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: into the Spider Verse movie because it's so different. On 875 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: a mainstream scale. There's really not anybody else doing a 876 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: movie like this, so I don't see anybody complaining. That 877 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: is great for me. So before I get into my 878 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: full thoughts, here's just a short little clip of it. 879 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: What's the guy I gotta do to join this Spider team? 880 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: You can never be part of this comma. Go easy 881 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: on the kid. He had a terrible teacher. Peter Farles, 882 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: you have a babe, I have a babe. Everyone keeps 883 00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: telling me how fun story is supposed to go him. 884 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 1: So what was so exciting to me about the first 885 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: one is it felt while watching that movie that that 886 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: had no rules going into it. It could be anything 887 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: it wanted to be. And it was a love letter 888 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: to all the people who grew up with Spider Man, 889 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 1: who grew up with the cartoon, playing the video game, 890 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: reading the comic books, and it took all of those 891 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: elements and put it into this movie and there were 892 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: no rules, and then also into the Spider Verse, gave 893 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: us all these different variations of Spider Man. And now 894 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: on this movie they are taking it to an entirely 895 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: different level by creating a cast of hundreds of Spider Man. 896 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: So this was really the first movie when it came 897 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: out back in twenty eighteen to dig into the multiverse first. 898 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: And now everybody's doing it, but I think they do 899 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: it the best because it's just fun to see all 900 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: these different kind of Spider Man that exists in all 901 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: these different universes. So in this trailer you see all 902 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 1: these different Spider Man. You have Oscar Isaac who plays 903 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: Miguel O'Hara. He is leading a group who is trying 904 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: to protect the multiverse, and Miguel Harah kind of has 905 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: this Stanos things going on of he is fine with 906 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: sacrificing some of them for the greater good, but Miles 907 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: Morales doesn't see it that way and he wants to 908 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: protect everyone. You also have some new characters voiced by 909 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 1: Essa Ray as Spider Woman and Daniel Caluya as Spider Punk, 910 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: who is probably the one I'm the most excited to see. 911 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: The movie is coming out on June's second, so I 912 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 1: feel like in this movie we are going to get 913 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: what is known as the classic Spider Man dilemma, the 914 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: one that Tom Holland, Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield have 915 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: all had to face of that struggle of wanting to 916 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 1: be Spider Man and also wanting to be the person 917 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: underneath the mask and wanting at the end of the 918 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: day to always help everybody out and be the good guy. 919 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: Where this movie seems to take a different turn is 920 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: that Miles Morales is struggling with not wanting to end 921 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: up like every other Spider Man. He wants to create 922 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: his own journey. And you have all these people in 923 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: this movie telling you this is your fate, this is 924 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: what's going to happen, can't really change and alter your 925 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 1: destiny because we've all experienced this, We've all experienced loss, 926 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: we've all experienced the same struggle you're going through. We 927 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: know exactly what you're going to do. But you hear 928 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: Miles Morales in that trailer say nah, I'm gonna do 929 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: my own thing, and delivering that with such confidence. You 930 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: feel Miles Morales really coming into his own in this movie, 931 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: which in the first one he was really trying to 932 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: figure out how to be Spider Man. He was just 933 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 1: some kid who just had these powers and was trying 934 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 1: his best to just navigate them and save the world. 935 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: But he really wasn't that strong in that movie, even 936 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: in that final scene where he still struggles to defeat 937 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: the villain, but you get a sense of him really maturing. 938 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: So I feel like this movie will follow his journey 939 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: and wanting to change the course that everybody tells them 940 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: he is on, and him wanting to escape the inevitable. 941 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 1: Inside that trailer, there's also an Uncle Ben reference, which 942 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: we all know the story by now. I feel like 943 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 1: in superhero movies we overtell their origin story so much, 944 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 1: but that is what Spider Man has always had to 945 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: deal with, whether it be the death of Uncle Ben, 946 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: the death of Gwen Stacy, it is dealing with that 947 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: loss and coming back from that kind of like a 948 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: change person. Because whenever Spider Man experiences a loss, it 949 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: alters their chemical makeup, It changes what they are fighting for, 950 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: It changes their decision on whether they want to continue 951 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: being Spider Man or they want to just go back 952 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: to being that same regular human. So, by the looks 953 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: of this trailer, even though it's not giving us a 954 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: whole lot, I feel like that is what we are 955 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: going to see. It's usually what we get in the 956 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: part two of a Spider Man movie. They have to 957 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: deal with some kind of loss, They have to deal 958 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: with something that's really good. To tighten the screws on 959 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 1: our character creates some tension. Will Miles lose his dad 960 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: Jefferson Davis, Will he lose his mom Rio Morales or 961 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: maybe Gwen Stacy, Or will he be the first to 962 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: change history and be able to save the loved one 963 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: that always gets lost in every Spider Man movie. I 964 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: would like to see that. But I would also hope 965 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: that they do with this one is avoid the love story, 966 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: which they hinted at. It a little bit more in 967 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: the initial teaser trailer, but I didn't really get that 968 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: vibe in the first one that there was going to 969 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: be a romantic relationship sparked between Miles and Gwen. I 970 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: feel like it's a lot different because her character has 971 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: the Spider Man abilities and she is fighting alongside them, 972 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: So I hope they just continue that relationship of wanting 973 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: to save the world together. I think it's the better storyline. 974 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: The most frustrating thing to me about Spider Man is 975 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 1: that all the movies are owned by different entities, whether 976 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: it be Sony or Disney. And I did see that 977 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: they just added on Disney Plus the Original Spider Man 978 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: trilogy and the first Andrew Garfield Amazing Spider Man movie, 979 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: and then they are going to add Homecoming, I believe 980 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: next month in May. But there's just not one place 981 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: where you can watch all these movies. And I was 982 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: hoping that they would add into the Spider Verse on 983 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: Disney Plus because it would just make it so much easier. 984 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: And I feel like if this movie was a little 985 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: bit more accessible, more people who haven't seen it would 986 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: be able to watch it. But there's not a home 987 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: for this one, so I hate that the solution would 988 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: be for Sony to have its own streaming service because 989 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to add another streaming service to my arsenal. 990 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: I just wish that they would all be available on Disney. Plus, 991 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: I just need one place where I can get every 992 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: single Spider Man movie and watch them all when I 993 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: want to. Is that too much to ask? I think 994 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: it's probably too much to ask. But again, Across the 995 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: Spider Verse is coming out on June second, twenty twenty three, 996 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: will probably be my favorite movie of the summer, if 997 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: not easily enter the top five of the year. And 998 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: then Beyond the Spider Verse, which will be Part three 999 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: in this series, will come out next year on March 1000 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: twenty ninth, twenty twenty four. It is a great time 1001 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: to be a Spider Man fan. 1002 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 3: If that was this week's edition of Movie by. 1003 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: Framer Bar, and that's gonna do it for another episode 1004 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: here of the podcast. Before I go, I got to 1005 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: give my listeners shout out. And before I even get 1006 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: into that, I have to let you know that we 1007 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: went viral last week. If you missed it, I had 1008 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: the Broken Lizard guys aka the guys behind Supertroopers on 1009 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: the podcast, and I posted a clip of that interview 1010 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: on my TikTok where they talked about how they chugged 1011 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: actual bottles of maple syrup in that movie Supertroopers. 1012 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 4: I drank two and a half and I made him 1013 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 4: drink three and a half because you don't have it yet. Afterwards, 1014 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 4: we laid down in the dark in my trailer and 1015 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 4: just shook. And then when I got back to the hotel, 1016 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 4: I saw him coming out. 1017 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: He goes, have you pooped yet? 1018 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 4: And I'm like no. He goes, report back to me 1019 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 4: after you wait for it, and he goes, there's a reason. 1020 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 4: It's part of maple Syrp's part of the of the 1021 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 4: master clets. 1022 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: So I posted that clip on TikTok, didn't expect anything 1023 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: of it. Posted it one morning and checked back on 1024 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 1: it later in the afternoon, and it had a quarter 1025 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 1: of a million views. I went to bed that night 1026 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: it was probably sitting around seven hundred and fifty k, 1027 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: woke up the next morning it had crossed that one 1028 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: million mark, and at the time of recording this right now, 1029 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: we're at one point five million views on that clip, 1030 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: which is amazing. The first time I've experienced going viral 1031 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: on a clip, and I'm glad that the name of 1032 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: the podcast is right there on the clip. So maybe 1033 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: you listening to this now are new because you discovered 1034 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: that clip on TikTok and decided to check out the podcast. 1035 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: So welcome to the podcast. Welcome to the movie crew. 1036 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: On every single episode, I like to shout out a 1037 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,280 Speaker 1: listener who just comments on my page, sends me a DM, 1038 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: or emails me Movie Mike d at gmail dot com. 1039 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: Since there was an interview last week, I always give 1040 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: a secret emoji, and it was the Lizard, so I 1041 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: went through all the comments and picked one at random. 1042 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: And this week's listener shout out of the week is 1043 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: Amanda Meyer and Amanda Road. Favorite interviews so far. I 1044 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 1: love the Broken Lizard guys. I've been a huge fan 1045 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 1: of them since Super Troopers. Still waiting for my sequel 1046 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: of beer Fest aka weed Fest that was teased at 1047 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: the end of the movie so many years ago. But 1048 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: I love listening to them talk about their process and 1049 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: how many movie projects they have in the works that 1050 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: haven't seen the big screen yet. They can do no wrong, 1051 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: So thank you, Amanda, I did see them talking about that. 1052 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: Your best sequel. Apparently Warner Brothers owns the rights to it, 1053 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,280 Speaker 1: so could possibly see the light of day down the line, 1054 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: but they are working on Super Tubers three again. If 1055 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: you miss that interview, go back one episode here on 1056 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: the Feed. And this week, since we had another interview, 1057 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: time for another secret emoji. If you enjoyed the Alex 1058 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: Convery interview talking about Air, comment on my page with 1059 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: the basketball emoji and I'll pick one of those comments 1060 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: to be next week's listeners shout out. Thank you so 1061 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: much for listening, and until next time, go out and 1062 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: watch good movies and I will talk to you later.