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Speaker 1: Hey, So speaking of when he left here, let's go

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Speaker 1: What does this mean for Garrett Wilson? He was one

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Speaker 1: But if you're Garrett, how are you taking in this news?

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Speaker 3: Right, So you're talking about a guy that's played in

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Speaker 3: But you got to see some different things in him

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Speaker 3: Maybe there's some ways that he can play around with

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Speaker 1: It's always fun watching training camp with you because you

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Speaker 2: I think this guy is amazing.

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Speaker 3: You've got Breize Hall, you got Mason Taylor, right, So

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Speaker 1: What about Mitchell's potential. I mean, we're gonna get back

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Speaker 3: Do Yeah, definitely, I'm glad you brought him up. I

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Speaker 2: The game is.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be important for him to go out

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Speaker 1: Have you taken a sneak peek at some of the

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Speaker 3: then the other guy, Makayle Lemon. He's more so. It's

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Speaker 3: so interesting. And I watch him kind of with the

441
00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,920
Speaker 3: ball in his hands because he's more of like a

442
00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,639
Speaker 3: a skier, you know, like there's not like strong cuts

443
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Speaker 3: when he has the ball in his hands.

444
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Speaker 2: It's more of like a fluid like moving through guys. Right.

445
00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,959
Speaker 1: But he So everybody talks about Garrett as being like

446
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,280
Speaker 1: an I say, he's an artist out there as route running,

447
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,320
Speaker 1: it's concerned. Eleven's got a different game, yeah, And I

448
00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,680
Speaker 1: don't know if people are comparing them to mont Ross

449
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,440
Speaker 1: Saint Brown just because they both played at USC and

450
00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,760
Speaker 1: whatnot and things like that, and maybe a little bit

451
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:24,080
Speaker 1: smaller stature, but the freelance type ability sees some kind

452
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Speaker 1: of comparisons with the style will play with Garrett, I guess.

453
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Speaker 3: I could see that He's definitely not like a like

454
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,480
Speaker 3: a Tait, feels more like a Garrett in terms of

455
00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,680
Speaker 3: like the fluidness of him. And I think with Mackay

456
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,520
Speaker 3: is more a little bit more compact a little bit

457
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Speaker 3: when I.

458
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Speaker 1: Watch him, so feel like a running back.

459
00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even the way he runs the ball with

460
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,720
Speaker 3: the ball, he's not like a out here stays up here,

461
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Speaker 3: So you know, it's that that makes sense. And I

462
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Speaker 3: think if we're talking about going back to Detroit, which

463
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Speaker 3: is not exactly what we're gonna see anymore, right, because

464
00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,000
Speaker 3: this isn't a Detroit products off as a coordinator, So

465
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Speaker 3: I'm curious to see where they go, you know, like

466
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Speaker 3: everybodbody can put in there. Okay, I think he's gonna

467
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,399
Speaker 3: do this, But Frank Wright was was it Stanford for

468
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,160
Speaker 3: a little bit, and he wasn't coaching, he was kind

469
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 3: of watching over so you pick up a lot of

470
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Speaker 3: things from that college game.

471
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Speaker 2: You know.

472
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Speaker 3: One thing I saw him do his last year in

473
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Speaker 3: the league was something that you've seen a lot more

474
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 3: often now is this little partial screen where everybody's running routes,

475
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Speaker 3: but then you have the running back running a swing

476
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Speaker 3: with a lead blocker. Right, That's something that I haven't

477
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,360
Speaker 3: seen the Jets do in a while, but it's something

478
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 3: that you're really seeing more often in the league where

479
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,639
Speaker 3: that's your dump off. Now you have a screen with

480
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Speaker 3: a lead blocker, you get an opportuny to make a

481
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Speaker 3: big play.

482
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Speaker 1: Right.

483
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Speaker 3: So I wonder what other things he's been picking up

484
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Speaker 3: that he wants to add in that we haven't seen

485
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Speaker 3: him do.

486
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Speaker 1: Uh.

487
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Speaker 3: Gino is not Carson Wentz, He's not Andrew Luck, right,

488
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 3: so you're gonna see some wrinkles that are different from

489
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Speaker 3: what he had before.

490
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Speaker 1: How about Tyson from Arizona State.

491
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Speaker 2: I watched him a little bit.

492
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Speaker 3: I didn't get to see too much about him, so

493
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Speaker 3: I can't give you like this is definitively what I

494
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 3: like about him, right, But I did see some some some.

495
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Speaker 2: Highlights I think I saw. Is it him? I think

496
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Speaker 2: I saw him make this great catch against Rutgers.

497
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Speaker 3: It might not be him. You watched so many guys

498
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 3: you end up if you don't take the notes, you

499
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Speaker 3: lose it.

500
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Speaker 1: But I was Boston or Tap It's a big time.

501
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 2: No, no Boston.

502
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Speaker 3: I think he had a black He had a black jersey,

503
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Speaker 3: so it might have been Tyson and he made this

504
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: catch where you know, uh, strong hands going down. If

505
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,640
Speaker 3: I could probably look at the youtub later. Anyways, Uh,

506
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Speaker 3: the other two guys, the other three guys that I mentioned,

507
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Speaker 3: I definitely have watched. Tyson is a guy I gotta

508
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Speaker 3: watch a little more of.

509
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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go back to last year in Vegas.

510
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Speaker 1: I think people are getting a little bit too hung

511
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Speaker 1: up on Gino's numbers there last year because for an

512
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Speaker 1: offense to operate officially, there has to be a lot

513
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Speaker 1: of things working right, and there was a lot of

514
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Speaker 1: things not working well for Las Vegas. And we're not

515
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Speaker 1: here to bury the Raiders.

516
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Speaker 2: No.

517
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Speaker 1: My point on that is Gino ultimately he's still passed

518
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 1: or three yards. Yeah, he's still completing a high percentage

519
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: of passes. He had the nineteen touchdown passes you mentioned,

520
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 1: the seventeen interceptions, got sacked a ton of times. Right,

521
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: That offensive line isn't the same kind of unit that

522
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Speaker 1: he'll be working behind this year. No, So in that

523
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: small snapshot, what did you see from Gino last year?

524
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he struggled, and I think the biggest

525
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: thing was they didn't even have a run game.

526
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: Right.

527
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Speaker 3: So when you don't have the opportunity to make it

528
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 3: seem like you have another route to go, right, if

529
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 3: I know you're throwing the ball all game, then there's

530
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Speaker 3: really no reason for me to be even concerned with

531
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Speaker 3: the run. And they had a great running back, right,

532
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Speaker 3: but they just didn't have a great scheme for him.

533
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 3: So it made it where you have the worst run

534
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Speaker 3: game in the league. And so now you have a

535
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Speaker 3: quarterback that's out there and he's probably the most pressured

536
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 3: quarterback because they're bringing pressure off to pressure after pressure

537
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 3: after blitz, right. And I think one thing that I

538
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 3: saw was that it felt like either the line wasn't

539
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 3: talented enough, which I hate as a former player to

540
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 3: say that, or they didn't understand the scheme there. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 3: and when you fire off as a coordinator, it's probably

542
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 3: more than they understand the scheme.

543
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: Right.

544
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 3: The guys are out there and you're blocking man two

545
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 3: guys on one guy. Right, you're letting Miles Garrett run

546
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: past you not even touched, right, So it's just a

547
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: very bad scheme. And so that made it where Gino

548
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 3: is back there, he's at the top of his drop.

549
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 3: You're talking about a two man route, right, So there's

550
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 3: only two guys out, so we've got a lot of

551
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Speaker 3: guys that can block for you, and he on the

552
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Speaker 3: top of his drop getting sacked, you know, so you

553
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: don't even have a chance. So I think Gino can

554
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 3: probably speak to what he could have done better, but

555
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Speaker 3: I think just around him, it just wasn't a great

556
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Speaker 3: scheme for him.

557
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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's take it back to twenty twenty two

558
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty four, the best stretch of his career

559
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Speaker 1: with the Seattle Seahawks. Of course, I mean you're talking

560
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Speaker 1: about the NFL Comeback Player of the Year. In twenty

561
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: twenty two, he passes for nearly four thy three hundred yards,

562
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Speaker 1: comes back in twenty twenty three. He's a pro bowler.

563
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Speaker 1: In two of those three seasons, he passed for four

564
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Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty yards. In twenty twenty four, his

565
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Speaker 1: last year as a starter. If you look at his

566
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Speaker 1: yards per tempt, I know a lot of people do

567
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Speaker 1: that as well. Over the past four years, he's been

568
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: about seven point to eight yards per attempt, which of

569
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: course is solid. But if you look at that run

570
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: elite completion percentage passing yards there durable and available he

571
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: wasn't missing games and that's huge, and again getting the

572
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Speaker 1: ball down the field.

573
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the durability is a huge point, right.

574
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Speaker 3: I Mean we talk about in the league where guys

575
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 3: are getting injured left and right. The last time he

576
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 3: was really injured was when he was with US, right,

577
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: and he had that knee injury. I think after that,

578
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: this is a guy that hasn't taken many hits. So

579
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: you know, we can kind of speak to first off,

580
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Speaker 3: just the fact that he may be an older quarterback,

581
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: but he's not a worn down quarterback, right.

582
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Speaker 2: He's not a guy that's been through the mud too much.

583
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: Now, as far as that those prior seasons, you're seeing

584
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Speaker 3: a guy that was confident. When I talk about okay,

585
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: the pressure is getting a geno and he's getting sacked

586
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: all these things. When you saw the pressure when he

587
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 3: was in Seattle, he was able to evade the pressure

588
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 3: knowing that it was coming right, knowing that either his

589
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 3: guys want to block it up or that he knew

590
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 3: whe his outlet was. So it was night and day, right,

591
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: So I think that was I think something that we

592
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: have to look to and say, this is what we're

593
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: expecting from geno here, right, we need to build that

594
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: offense where you're giving him a lot of protection because

595
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 3: then you get to see him make those three level

596
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 3: throws and kind of push your offense down the field.

597
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I asked him another day, We talked to him

598
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Speaker 1: on stream Yard and we put that up an official

599
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: Jests podcast. But you know, hey, do you feel like

600
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: you're a young thirty five? And he said he does.

601
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: Still got great movement skills. And another thing is you

602
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: talk about that middle section of his career when he's

603
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: a backup with the Giants, when he's a backup with

604
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: the Chargers, he's not accumulating any were on those tires. Yeah,

605
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: so he still should have plenty of tread left. And

606
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: the other thing is, let me ask you about this,

607
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: how much try to give it Darren Muji and Aaron

608
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: Glenn for going out and getting this guy, which I

609
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: think automatically raises your floor also potentially, you know, it's

610
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting what he does here if he

611
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: is indeed the starter, which we all expect him to be.

612
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: But the Jets are only paying about three million dollars

613
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: of his salary this year.

614
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great that's a great move. I think.

615
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Speaker 3: You know, financially, you know, when you get a guy

616
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Speaker 3: Geno's caliber, you're gonna have to put a little bit

617
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: of money into it so to be able to trade

618
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: for him and not have to take on the rest

619
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Speaker 3: of his salary.

620
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Speaker 2: Uh.

621
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Speaker 3: You know that makes it where now you can make

622
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: some moves everywhere else. And I think they've done a

623
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Speaker 3: pretty good job since they've gotten here in terms of

624
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: bringing guys in right, finding those gems, right. We could

625
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: talk about on the defensive line, Juwan Briggs. Right, we

626
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 3: saw Brownly make some plays last year right before he

627
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: got injured. Right, So they're continuing to make moves and

628
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: then now right even in the offseason bringing some guys

629
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Speaker 3: in that no AG. I think it's a whole switch

630
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: from last year where I felt like the guys that

631
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: were bringing in were not exactly guys that they that

632
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: AG knew and could really build a foundation off of.

633
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: Like you had a really young team, but not a

634
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: bunch of guys that knew exactly what AG was looking for.

635
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: Now you have Tomorrow Davis, who's been with AG. Right,

636
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 3: You've got some other guys as well that have been

637
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: with AG that know what he's looking for right. So

638
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be an older team, but

639
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: maybe a more disciplined team.

640
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: So people sometimes, I think when you're talking about a

641
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: young team that hasn't won in a long time, and

642
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: we know the Jets haven't been in the playoffs since

643
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: twenty ten, they kind of roll their eyes when you

644
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: talk about culture. Yeah, you're a dude who played in

645
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: between the white lines. You sat in the locker room.

646
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: What are guys going to be like when you talk

647
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: about Miga, Fitzpatrick, Tomorio Davis, you go to the offensive

648
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: size of the ball, You talk about Geno, who's seen

649
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: a lot in the National Football League ups and downs.

650
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: What are those guys going to add to the room

651
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: and how can that transition over the field.

652
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're policing the locker room right, because

653
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: the culture don't come in the locker room. They don't

654
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: understand what's going on, or not so much. They don't understand,

655
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: but they're not the ones in there to making guys

656
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: making sure guys are on the right and narrow right,

657
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: and they're not. On top of that, you got guys

658
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: that are doing things outside of the game as well,

659
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: who are positive influences right, Gino has his own foundation.

660
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: Tomorrio is Walter Penning Man of the Year, right, So

661
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: you're bringing in culture, guys that know how to win,

662
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: that know how to win on the field and off

663
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: the field. And I think that's important because now it

664
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: shifts the way that everybody's looking at the game in general. Right,

665
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: you have a different focus, you know, when you have

666
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: young guys, especially in this market. I think one thing

667
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: that we don't talk about too much is New York

668
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: is not easy.

669
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: Right.

670
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: There's a reason why they call New York the city

671
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: it never sleeps. You know, there's a lot that goes

672
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: on there. Right, If you don't have guys that can

673
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: kind of tell you, like, this is what needs to

674
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: happen on offense and defense. Gino has been in New

675
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: York to Mario's been in New York, right, so they

676
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: already know what's out there, right, But they all know

677
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: what guys need to do in order to focus and

678
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: be prepared for the.

679
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: Game in the moment. Do you realize that when you're

680
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: a young player that man, this isn't easy playing in

681
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: New York, or or just things are coming at you

682
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: so fast that you don't even have time to think

683
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: about it.

684
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 3: No, yeah, you definitely want to. I'll tell you my

685
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 3: own stories. Like you know, I was my first year

686
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: in New York. I was excited to see all of

687
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: the city offered. And then after the season, I said,

688
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: you know what, talk to my agency. I think I

689
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 3: need a financial advisor.

690
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: You know really?

691
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, you realize after a while they're like, listen, man,

692
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: it's fun, but you've got to be smart, right, And

693
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: so the reason why I even went that route is

694
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: because of leadership in the locker room, seeing guys making

695
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: those decisions and understanding like, Okay, I can't keep operating

696
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: in this way because things are going to get tough

697
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: for you. So, you know, I think it's going to

698
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: be huge for this team. You know, you're going to

699
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: have a different level of focus.

700
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: Do you like the fact that Aaron Glenn said, I'm

701
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: going to take the reins to the defense. I'm going

702
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: to call plays. I hired Brian Duker, who who he

703
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: was with in Detroit. Of course, most recently Duker was

704
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: in Miami. Ryan Slowick also comes over from the Dolphins,

705
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: and so Mica Fitzpatrick. He walks in the door and

706
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: he knows Duker. He knows Sloick obviously. Can you speak

707
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: to maybe the familiarity here and how big that is

708
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: a factor when you when you're speaking about Maka and

709
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: those guys, but also de Mario working with AG New Orleans,

710
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: and then on Yamada comes over to we speak about

711
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: another defensive tackle, the trade devat. You know, we can

712
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: continue to go about the defensive tackles things like that,

713
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: but just more so the familiarity and also AG not

714
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: saying listen, I wanted to look at it from a

715
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot view, but I think this is right

716
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: for me now to call.

717
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: I think it's cool that Age had an opportunity to

718
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: see what works for him. He understands that he grew

719
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: up in this game as a defensive coordinator, so he

720
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: really enjoys that process. And so now you're gonna have

721
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: a guy in Brian Duker who has been under AG,

722
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: and so now the message stays the same, right, And

723
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: I think that's an important thing because sometimes when you

724
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: have the head coach and then you have a Devers

725
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: coordinaial officer Cutnere who has a little bit of a

726
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: different upbringing, he's going to sometimes mix that message up right,

727
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: it's gonna get lost in translation when he gets to

728
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: the players. Now you have straight down the line, everybody

729
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: understands what AG wants. And on top of that, you

730
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: have a guy in Minka Fitzpatrick who's played under Brian Duker,

731
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: so now he also kind of understands what's going on.

732
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: You've got the the guy in the middle in Tomorrow

733
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: Davis who understands what that is. And one thing about

734
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: Minka Fitzpatrick, I'm excited to see him.

735
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: You know, this is.

736
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: Obviously a Jersey guy, but also his first game at

737
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: MetLife I played against him, right, So it's kind of

738
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: crazy to see all this, right, you know, I'm gonna

739
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: remove from the game. I've been out for a while,

740
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: but it's cool to see guys that I played with

741
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: or against now on the team. And this was a

742
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: guy that they moved around, right. There was moments where

743
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: he was guarding me at receiver, right. So this is

744
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: a guy that's capable of doing a lot of different

745
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: things on the field. And he's got some interceptions, right,

746
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: and that's something that Jets were looking for. They had

747
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: zero last year.

748
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, justs definitely need more takeaways. I like that pick

749
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: up of Nashon Wright, who led the National Football League

750
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: in takeaways right last year. But again Muji, he said,

751
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: we will be aggressive free agency, but we're gonna take

752
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: a calculated approach, and it Jets certainly did that, and

753
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: they had the vision we're gonna go out and bring

754
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: some veterans into this room. Also, we're gonna keep our

755
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: flexibility because they're not locked into huge long term deals.

756
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: When you're talking about the veteran market, and they still

757
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: have all this draft capital.

758
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean listen, yeah, You've got a lot

759
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: of ability out there right now, right, And so I

760
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: think it will be disappointment because I think I think

761
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: everybody in this bill will be disappointed if you're not able

762
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: to do some great things with what all you have, right,

763
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: I think you bring in a lot of great free

764
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: agent players, and then you also have so much opportunity

765
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: in this draft. I think the last time they just

766
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: had three picks in the first two rounds at least

767
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: was that twenty twenty two right where you're talking about

768
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: guys that were ballers. Now, you know, not everybody is here,

769
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: but when they were here, they performed at a high level.

770
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: And sometimes you only need two or three years of

771
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: great play for you to say, hey, listen, this guy

772
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: has created an impact on this team. So the league

773
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: average is three years, right, Like you only last in

774
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: three years, you know, So you got to get the

775
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: most with what you can get at those guys. And

776
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: if they can do that with this draft, you know,

777
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: it's it's it's you.

778
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: Know, bombs away, it's gonna be great two, sixteen, thirty three,

779
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: and forty four. So you got four picks in the

780
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: top forty four overall. I mean, when you're looking at

781
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: a pivot point for the twenty twenty six NFL draft,

782
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: you're looking at the green and white. But then Mousie

783
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: next year has three first round picks. Yeah, you have

784
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: eight combined first and second round picks. Over the course

785
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: of the next two you have nineteen picks in all

786
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: you know is a former draft pick yourself. People talk

787
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: about building organizations, you have to build them through the draft,

788
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: and now they're actually set up to do that.

789
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I mean, you know, and not just those

790
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: topics in the first few rounds, right, but also the

791
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: guys in the back in the later rounds. Right, You've

792
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: got to be able to see the gems there because

793
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 3: I think, again we talk about roles, right, you have

794
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: to see those guys for not just who they are

795
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: as players, but also what they can do for your team.

796
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: What role can they then come in and play, And

797
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: that's important I think. I think about when I was drafted,

798
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: the assistant special teams coordinator was actually at the East

799
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: West Line game, and I could tell that he was

800
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: excited to have me as a player in that game.

801
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: And then I ended up getting drafted and he threw

802
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: me out there on special teams, right. So it's having

803
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: that foresight, you know, from everybody in the building to

804
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: see these guys not only in the first few rounds,

805
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: but in the later rounds and say, hey, this guy

806
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: can do some big things for us here and then

807
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: later on maybe make some plays for us as a

808
00:33:59,120 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: as a position to play.

809
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about Gino today. If you're the Jets,

810
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: you look at this draft. You don't have to tell

811
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: me he studied the quarterback. But do you take one

812
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: at some point in this draft or do you say, hey, listen,

813
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Gino's the young thirty five. We got Bailey Zappi and

814
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: Brady Cook here. We'll have to see what they do

815
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: with the backup quarterback spot. Because Tyrod remains an unrestricted

816
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: free agent right now. We'll have to see how that

817
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: all progresses. But just continue to build build up this roster. Yeah,

818
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: and not be forced. We don't need to take a

819
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: flyer or you take a flyer in a day three.

820
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: At some point, get somebody in your building and then

821
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: go from there.

822
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

823
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many different different ways that you

824
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: can do it. I mean, I would love for them

825
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 3: to use that second first round pick on a pass catcher,

826
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: but I know that some people are talking about taking

827
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 3: a quarterback there. I think if you have an opportunity

828
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: to take a quarterback, you take him with an knowledge

829
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: that he's going to be learning right, that he's going

830
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 3: to be able to develop Ultimately. Think, if you're thinking

831
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: about quarterback, Gino is going to be as long term

832
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: as he can be, but you still want to have

833
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: somebody that can, you know, come in afterwards once you

834
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: know his time is up. So uh, taking somebody is

835
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: never a bad thing, you know.

836
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: I think the.

837
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: Quarterback position is the most important position. Right now you

838
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: have that kind of settled, but why not find a

839
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: way to then think about the future as well, and

840
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: I think they've continued to show that they're thinking about

841
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: the future.

842
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: But you're big as far as getting a playmaker in

843
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: here early on, Yeah, you you want one. You want

844
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: one early because we talked about watching practices together, watching

845
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: the games together, and things like that. You like some

846
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: of the pieces you you you love Garrett. Uh, you

847
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: got a young tight end. You mentioned Mason Tayler before.

848
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: You do have three backs brest All will have to

849
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: see how that all folds. Right now, he's franchise tag.

850
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: The Jots do have an opportunity to continue to work

851
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: out a long term contract with him. But you think

852
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: another pass catcher can a lock some.

853
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm a I'm always big on competition.

854
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: I think when I was here, it was always competition.

855
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: You know, twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen, I was here, we

856
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: had drafted three receivers. The next year, twenty fifteen came,

857
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: we drafted receiver in the second round. Continue to draft

858
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: receivers to bring competition in. I think that's the most

859
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: important thing to continue to bring that competition. Nobody needs

860
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: to be comfortable. I want you to feel like, hey,

861
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: I need to continue to compete and rise my level

862
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: of game. And again, guys get slotted into positions. Sometimes

863
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 3: you don't want to be in that position, but if

864
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 3: I see you as this position, then you know, sometimes

865
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: it's important to bring somebody else that can fit the

866
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: needs that I'm looking for.

867
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: What do you anticipate from Reich's scheme, because we know

868
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: the best coaches are always going to take their personnel

869
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: and they're gonna adapt what they run right to the

870
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: personnel that they have. But also you have tendencies over

871
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: the years to say, these are the things that we

872
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: like to do. The thing that has stood out to

873
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: me about right when you go back to his days

874
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, they ran the ball really well, that's what

875
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna be and the Jets were top ten

876
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: rushing offense last year. Now they did have a running quarterback,

877
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: Gino Ken run You're not gonna have design? Yeah you

878
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: so go ahead.

879
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think you're make it a great point.

880
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: I think when you have three backs, you know, and

881
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 3: hopefully the three backs continue to stay through you hope

882
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: that Brandon down and comes back healthy as well, but

883
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: you have three backs that are capable of doing so

884
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 3: many different unique things. I think you have to stay

885
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: in that focus, right, And again, Gino's coming from a

886
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 3: team that was the worst running team in the league.

887
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: So if you can kind of find a way to

888
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 3: marry that in there and make sure that he's protected

889
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: but also has a great running game to support him,

890
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna continue that. And like I said before, right,

891
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: he's been able to learn some little wrinkles from the

892
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: college game while being there. I'm excited to see where

893
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: he goes. But that's one of the biggest things when

894
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: you look up Frank Reich is that his run game

895
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 3: is one of the best.

896
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm excited to see where he kind

897
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: of checks that.

898
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: What makes a guy a good play action quarterback, Obviously

899
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: you have to be able to push people around up front. Yeah,

900
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: But just as far as that dynamic from a quarterbacks

901
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: persons of what makes him a better play action passer.

902
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you have to be able to sell it, right,

903
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: that's the biggest thing. But I think it really is

904
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 3: married with the offensive line and the running back as well.

905
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: Right.

906
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: If you have a great running game, that makes it

907
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: so much more difficult. And this is something that obviously

908
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: is a sore spot, but the Jets. On the opposite side,

909
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: we're not able to defend the play action pass that well, right,

910
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: because so many teams were running the ball well. It

911
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: made the linebackers and made everybody kind of sell for

912
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: the run to really try to stop that run, and

913
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you're throwing the ball right

914
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: behind them. So you know, you can kind of take

915
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 3: a page out of that and see like, Okay, well,

916
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 3: how we've got to be so efficient in our run

917
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: game that these two things look identical, right, And so

918
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: I think that'll be the most important things to continue

919
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: to focus on, just creating that run game and creating

920
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: that efficiency in the run game.

921
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: Do you see West Ghast principles when you watch Reike

922
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: as far as the offense is concerned.

923
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, But you know, I'm always curious, and it's funny.

924
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: I wanted to try to go to some coaches clinics

925
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: to kind of learn a little bit about what they

926
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 3: kind of talk about. But it's you know, when people

927
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 3: say like West Coast principles, I'm always curious where exactly

928
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: they're pointing to, because I mean, the West Coast has

929
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: kind of influenced so many different offices, right, Like you

930
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: know they you'd have to be able to tease a

931
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: part what part is here.

932
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: And what part is here?

933
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: You know, as a receiver, I see some things that Okay,

934
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: I understand is in the West coast right in terms

935
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 3: of the way that they run the routes, the way

936
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: that they do the two x two's, all those things.

937
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: But I can't tell you whether or not it's for sure.

938
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: That you know, Yeah, no doubt about it. Yeah. It's

939
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: an interesting time, man, Yeah, because it were through the

940
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: first waves of free agency. You mentioned the Jets defense

941
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: with these changes, when you're seeing them trade for Devon

942
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: Drace what big space eaters three hundred and fifty three

943
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pounds. I think that's gonna be a

944
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: win win that trade. Because Jamaine Johnson goes back, he

945
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: renights with Robert Sala a lot of former Jets there.

946
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: With some comfort for him.

947
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right right. No out on Yamata, we talked

948
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: about him and other veteran.

949
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: Who I loved that video.

950
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was really tight with Aaron and all that.

951
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: I say, as soon as the Mario walks in the door,

952
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: you got to move up your run defense. I don't

953
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: know how many spots in the rank. It's just him,

954
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: just him, Yeah, Okay, And then we talk about Mega.

955
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: You said it's come full circle for you a little

956
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: bit that you played against him early in his career.

957
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: He played a big nickel last year. He's very comfortable

958
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: inside the box as well. I'm seeing a lot of

959
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: these moves and thinking to myself, the Jets not only

960
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: put an emphasis on professionals, veterans, leaders, guys have done

961
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: it before, but also having a stout run in size right,

962
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: size and physicality.

963
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: Yes, it's completely different when you talk about going from

964
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: Quincy Williams to Demario Davis, right, when you talk about

965
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 3: it adding the Tovandre Sweat, right, we're talking about Aason

966
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 3: Wright right, like the four size right, and you talk

967
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: about Brandis Stevens and Nason Ryder, those two tall, lanky corners.

968
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: It's a different defense. It's definitely looking. It has a

969
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 3: different look and feel to it. I think they and

970
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: it makes sense, right because as much as we love

971
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: the speed that the Jets had last year and the

972
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: ability to move around, I think that that kind of

973
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: also was a little bit of a detriment to them, right,

974
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: because sometimes the speed was counteracting some of the more

975
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: physicality that the Jets needed. So it'll be interesting to

976
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: see where it goes this year. But I definitely love

977
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: that they're taking that approach and it'll be I'm really

978
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: curious to see where they go in the draft. I mean,

979
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: there's some guys I know in the edge rushing ability

980
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: that have great size, but also had some of the

981
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 3: guys that just have great speed and great talent.

982
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: You're gonna feel the Jets this year when you play

983
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: him defensive, laeve like you're talking about size. I mean,

984
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: Demrio is still one of the best thumpers in the game.

985
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: And we talked about Swat, we talked about Onia Moda.

986
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: These guys get after you in the run game, and

987
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: then Fitzpatrick, he is a very physical player. You talk

988
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: about those guys in the outside too, Stevens and then

989
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 1: Brownlee gave you some nastiness too, and that's what AG

990
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: expects from the secondary. So hey, Jet's just getting started though,

991
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: because again we're gonna have to see what this ultimately

992
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: looks like after the draft. But quincyan noon Wan no

993
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: surprise is saying get Geno another pass catcher. Yeah, yeah,

994
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: good scene man.

995
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you too away was fine.

996
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: M