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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I also live on a Tuesday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily,

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Speaker 2: merely Bo the Great Z. We've got news, big, big

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Speaker 2: news here. Within the last hour, there will be three

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Speaker 2: head coaching positions open in the AFC North. As Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin stepped down in Pittsburgh after nineteen seasons as the

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Speaker 2: head coach of the Pittsburghs. This will be there when

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Speaker 2: they make this next hire. It will be just their

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Speaker 2: fourth head coach since nineteen sixty nine, which is an

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Speaker 2: absurd thing. His record speaks for itself. Never had a

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Speaker 2: losing season, a super Bowl championship, a bunch of a

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Speaker 2: division titles that never had the losing season thing is

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Speaker 2: something that I don't know if anyone coaches for that

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Speaker 2: long will ever be duplicated again. I think that's pretty

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Speaker 2: pretty damn hard to wrap your head around. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: my friend, this is gonna be a brand new day

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Speaker 2: in the AFC North in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: So I said, it's a whole it's a whole new division.

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Speaker 3: It's wild, it's incredible. I mean, Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 3: that's just you count like that's you counted on it.

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Speaker 3: I was like the sun, deaths or taxes. That's right,

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Speaker 3: that's like, that's that's how they were there. I think

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Speaker 3: I have this right off top of my head. John

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Speaker 3: Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin coached a combined thirty seven seasons in.

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Speaker 2: The National Football League. Yeah, I think that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they won a combined three hundred and seventy three games.

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Speaker 3: I wrote that in thirty seven seasons. So they both

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Speaker 3: and ironically, I think it's one ninety three for Tomlin

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Speaker 3: in nineteen and it's one eighty for Harbaugh in eighteen.

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Speaker 3: So they both won ten games a year in the

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Speaker 3: same schedule when they each played two games that one

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Speaker 3: of them had to lose. Well put yeah, year after

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Speaker 3: year after year after year.

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Speaker 2: It is stupefying. It is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, now you're talking about the two longest tended

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Speaker 3: coaches in the league. Or Andy Reid and the Gangster yeah.

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Speaker 2: Dude, the two of them. Fourteen division titles, fourteen division titles,

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Speaker 2: two super Bowls. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: Bashadi was talking about in his in his press conference,

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Speaker 3: and I actually, I don't know, I just blanked on it,

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Speaker 3: but he said something just funny about the consistency, how

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Speaker 3: they've these guys have always been there and now it's

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Speaker 3: just totally turned on its head. But you're talking about

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Speaker 3: two of the very, very best, and now you're talking

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Speaker 3: about two guys who last regular season game was against

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Speaker 3: each other. If the field goal is made, does Harbaugh

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Speaker 3: is Harba still the coach? I think so beat the

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Speaker 3: Texans who were way c J. Stroud played last night.

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Speaker 3: The shows got awful every night. Maybe you know, we

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Speaker 3: could be looking at a whole different thing. But it's

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Speaker 3: it is a wild situation here. And but shot, he

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Speaker 3: was talking this thing about a great many things, but

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Speaker 3: he kind of found out on in real He was

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Speaker 3: unbelievable and I loved, you know what, I loved him.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we're coming back to a time when people are

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Speaker 3: just more candid, good. Maybe people are just gonna say

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Speaker 3: what they think I invented. You know, they told me

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Speaker 3: if I wanted to be on the first coaching interview.

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Speaker 3: I had to be on all of them, and he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: He can handle it, can handle it. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, if Ozzie had come to me at some

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Speaker 3: I've built a Super Bowl championship team. I've been here

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Speaker 3: since the beginning, it'd have been like, yeah, okay, it's

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Speaker 3: all good. He invented working from a remotely, which I

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Speaker 2: I think later we're going to have some of that.

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Speaker 2: But there's there is a when he finds out live

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Speaker 2: about Tomlin. It's really exact credit back and forth.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible. It's just this is just a wild scenario.

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Speaker 3: It's one that nobody could have foreseen. And I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is what he said? He said, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself that number is thrown out of

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Speaker 2: There are so.

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Speaker 3: Many one and dons, two and dons. Yes, there are

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Speaker 2: That's what it was.

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Speaker 3: He was like, Yeah, the average coach is here for

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Speaker 3: Kevin Svancy's the only guy who's been here for four

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Speaker 3: years in my time here, right, and this will be

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Speaker 3: my seventh head coach I think if you count since

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Speaker 2: Yeah, number seven. It's interesting with the certainly has been

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Speaker 2: twenty eight years. No, No, it feels like Harbaugh. It

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Speaker 2: feels like Harbaugh was more of a line in the sand,

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Speaker 2: all the reportings suggests that it was Monkin' and he

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden what turned into kind of a hey,

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Speaker 2: let's kind of get a state of the Union into

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Speaker 2: all right, let's just split ways. We're moving in a

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Speaker 2: different direction, both of us. The Tomlin one felt a

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Speaker 2: little bit more premeditated to me from Mike's perspective, because

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Speaker 2: because it had all been out he's interested in TV

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Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, and the Rogers thing. And it's interesting

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Speaker 2: because his success, the fact that he never had a

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Speaker 2: losing season, prevented them from fixing their biggest issue, which

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Speaker 2: is the same issue that we've had, which is the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Now we've had a lot of swings at drafting a

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Speaker 2: They drafted Ben Roethlisberger. They drafted Kenny Pickett, and that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's the list. Pickett didn't pan out the way that

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Speaker 2: they thought Ben obviously did. Before that day, though they

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Speaker 2: were meandering too. It was Neil O'Donnell in to Cordell

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Speaker 2: think they had Tommy Maddickson there once at one year two,

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Speaker 2: obviously became history. But in a way, his success prevented

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Speaker 2: such an elite culture builder and they are so great

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Speaker 2: at it drafting players. Yep. That that combination kept them

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Speaker 2: between nine wins and twelve for the last decade. And

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Speaker 2: they were never a threat to win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: They were never a threat to be a contender in

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Speaker 2: the AFC. They were always a threat in the division.

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Speaker 2: In fact, they won it like they did this year

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Speaker 2: a lot. They were always in the threat to make

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Speaker 2: the postseason. But they obviously haven't won a playoff game,

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Speaker 2: even more recently than we have. That's twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've been beaten by double digits in five

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought yesterday we'll get any last night

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Speaker 2: in a second. It obviously blew wide open in the fourth,

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Speaker 2: but the whole beginning of that game went exactly the

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Speaker 2: They're not any good, but it like they were. Well,

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Speaker 2: they're playoff garbage, right chance garbage are other kinds of garbage,

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Speaker 2: but they are. It was obvious they're not garbage. There's

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Speaker 2: a ceiling. There's a cement ceiling over it, and you

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Speaker 2: can't get There's not a scenario where you can say

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Speaker 2: there's not a scenario where you could say they're gonna

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Speaker 2: go make a run in the AFC. That hasn't been

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Speaker 2: the case for a decade. No, they were always a

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Speaker 2: of where they drafted, they were never able to get

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Speaker 2: the quarterback. I don't ever think it was actually a

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Speaker 2: Mike Tummlin problem. I'm thrilled he's gone say. I think

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Speaker 2: he's the culture tornado over there.

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Speaker 3: I think he got more out of them than they

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Speaker 3: anybody else would have by themore. Look at our fantasy playoff.

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Speaker 3: Nobody took a Steeler. No, no, no, no belief.

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Speaker 2: No, there's nothing. I mean, the roster doesn't make sense. No,

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Speaker 2: you had a little bit of belief. Well it was.

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Speaker 3: Headed that way for three quarters, was headed exactly eight

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Speaker 2: Well whatever, but it was still headed there. And then

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Speaker 2: it blew open Rogers with the fumble and picks. I mean,

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Speaker 2: like all those things happen.

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Speaker 3: You see the bull rush on that play, by the way,

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Speaker 3: have you seen the re play of it. Sheldon Rankin's

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Speaker 3: so everybody sees Will Anderson come off the edge to

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Speaker 3: get to him. Sheldon Rankins bull rushes Isaac Samolalu, who

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl Yeah. Yeah, dude throws him on the It's unreal.

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Speaker 3: And then he picks the ball up and goes into

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Speaker 3: the touchdown swallows him in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Tommy Towy, I looks pretty good in

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Speaker 3: those games.

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Speaker 2: He did he did. I think what you're going to

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Speaker 2: find though over there, is that whoever they get to

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Speaker 2: try to replace him, good luck, good luck, because I

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Speaker 2: think that job is not nearly as desirable as folks

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Speaker 2: over there think it is based on where their roster is.

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Speaker 2: And while they are disapproving of Mike Tomlin a job

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Speaker 2: he did, almost everybody else in the league would die

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Speaker 2: to have that type of success and die to have

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Speaker 2: a team that gets the most out of its talent.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're that talented, you know, we have

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Speaker 2: a huge Steelers fan in there.

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh peapot was rejoicing, dancing, like I think I heard

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Speaker 3: an I quote the witch is dead.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm.

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Speaker 4: Pretty sure to me in this on the side of

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Speaker 4: the glass.

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Speaker 3: All I'm saying is I heard somebody in there say dingdong,

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Speaker 3: the witch is dead and celebrating this. I said, be

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Speaker 3: careful what you wish for. Grass isn't always greener.

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Speaker 2: How could anybody objectively look at the Pittsburgh offensive and

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Speaker 2: it really defense too. How could you look at it

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Speaker 2: and go they underachieved, No, they overachieved. They should You

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Speaker 2: tell me who in the when DK Metcrof was out

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Speaker 2: and they didn't. And DK didn't do a whole lot.

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Speaker 2: But in the last two weeks when he was out,

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Speaker 2: who who are you scared of? Who are you gaining?

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Speaker 2: That's why the Ravens losing them was in im it was.

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Speaker 2: But I I just think, like the reason that job

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Speaker 2: will be attractive is because obviously ownership, stability, front office,

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Speaker 2: all of the things that are there. But I think

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Speaker 2: so much of what was maximizing their talent was the

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Speaker 2: force of nature that he is.

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Speaker 3: If that group of individuals, I'll go back to what

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Speaker 3: and we're always competitive. It's always fun to come out

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Speaker 3: It's interesting that the league has become those who fully believe,

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Speaker 2: thirteen years between playoff wins for Marty. Yeah, so it'd

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Speaker 2: the outlier. Yeah, yeah, oh, it's a totally Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 2: It certainly was not immediate. What social media does and

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Speaker 3: But it's gonna be You're gonna see guys get opportunities

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, such a great answer.

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Speaker 3: He's like, so, I don't really care if somebody struggled

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Speaker 3: He also said about Lamar, which I thought was fascinating

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is great.

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Speaker 3: So it's a little talking through the media, which I

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Speaker 4: of that here, just a little bit. But I mean

433
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Speaker 4: he's already working on extending him and like whatever it takes,

434
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 4: and Lamar Jackson's their QB.

435
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Speaker 3: In some way, you could look at this on some level.

436
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it is the one hundred percent, but

437
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 3: on some level as Lamar wanted him and Monk and

438
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: Gone wanted Monk and Gon for sure. That's despite the

439
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: fact that he played had the best two seasons of

440
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 3: his entire career with Monken as his offensive coordinator.

441
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, and Todd alluded to that he did a

442
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: hit with I want to say it's Cal Ripkin's kid

443
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: has a show in Baltimore or something last week. Really, yeah,

444
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 2: he did do some kind of podcast. It was with

445
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: a Ripkin. I assume it's in Baltimore. I assume related

446
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: be pretty safe anyway, I mean it could I suppose

447
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 2: it could be Billy's Kid. Who knows, but Ripkin of

448
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 2: some great air cards. One of the greatest air cards

449
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 2: of all of all time, but not worth anything either

450
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: because we all wanted it, right, I guess, because there

451
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 2: were so many more of them. That and the Wan

452
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Speaker 2: Gonzales reverse negative was another one that was a real

453
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Speaker 2: hot hitter at that time. Yeah, but one of the

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Speaker 2: things that Monkin said is I when it goes bad,

455
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: we all have to be accountable for it. And he

456
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 2: said I should have been better with Lamar, like he

457
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 2: took ownership of that. I should have done better to

458
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: make sure that relationship was strong with Lamar. And it

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00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: does seem like that's what happened that Lamar was like,

460
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: I'm done with this, and John Harbaugh said, well, I'm

461
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: not being going to be told to fire coaches by players,

462
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,719
Speaker 2: and that was it, and they move in another direction.

463
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: And to me, I mean, those jobs despite this is

464
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: the thing that's pretty crazy, and I from like the

465
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: delusion of some Pittsburgh fans. Those jobs aren't in any

466
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: way similar anyway. Baltimore is walk in win the super Bowl.

467
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is rebuild, rebuild with the twenty first pick and

468
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: go find quarterbacks and go find all these other things.

469
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Speaker 2: It is a totally different job than the Baltimore job.

470
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Speaker 2: The Baltimore job is the most pressure packed. Like what

471
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: Mashati said, we have Lamar Jackson, well none of that.

472
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 2: They got a ton of talent everywhere. I mean, going

473
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Speaker 2: into this season, weren't they the favorite to win the

474
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl? Yes? Yes, prohibitive. Yeah, so it's likely that's

475
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: and they still run all that back yep, Eric Henry

476
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: ran for another sixteen hundred yards. Like what do you

477
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: got there?

478
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to write a missing Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Arizona Giants, Miami, Vegas,

479
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 3: US and who's the other one that Atlanta lant All right,

480
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: all right, so just real quick, real quick for us,

481
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: take us out of it.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: This might be a segment later on.

484
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Speaker 2: By the way, is it to rank the openings?

485
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 4: Uh no, we don't rank the openings?

486
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like right now, yep.

487
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: So, and I'll even kind of I'll okay, bottom, let's

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Speaker 3: go bottom tier Vegas to get the number one. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: the number one pick. But still I feel like a

490
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Speaker 3: bottom tough division.

491
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Speaker 2: Tough division. I mean, you look at a million things,

492
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Speaker 2: you got quality, a love advantage.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I I know y'all love Arizona, but.

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Speaker 3: Great weather, Arizona's a bottom tiern no quarterback. Yeah to me,

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Speaker 3: those feel I think Arizona's worse than Vegas. Yes, iip

496
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: would rather live in Scottsdale. But I would, so, colleague,

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Speaker 3: Arizona is the worst. Okay, Arizona is eighth. No quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You're getting rid of Kyler.

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Speaker 2: You're not picking first or second, so you're gonna have

500
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: to wait a year on one. You're piecemealing it together.

501
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 2: Ownership reputation not great, so I guess. Okay, So all right,

502
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: they're eight. Yep, I'll tell you what seven might be? Miami?

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00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 3: So okay, Miami six might be Pittsburgh.

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00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: Wow, you're right. I've always I forget it's even open,

505
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 2: even though it all just happened. That's all we're talking about.

506
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: It's just weird to hear that it's open. It might

507
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: it might be worse than Miami. It could be seven.

508
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: It might be seven. I mean, it really truly might be.

509
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: I would if you're going paratrooping in there, like, what

510
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: are you hanging your hat on? Who's a young player

511
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: you're hanging your hat on? There's a franchise we're gonna

512
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: build around him. There's the one none last single one. No,

513
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: everyone's old, everyone's veteran old guys. Yeah, there's a that's

514
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: a massive.

515
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: Rebuild, massive rebuild with no quarter back.

516
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna go I think Pittsburgh over Miami,

517
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: just from the standpoint of ownership stability. And it's Pittsburgh

518
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: and it's abgh.

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00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 3: Vegas, I'd say five. Yeah, you've got the number one

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00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: pick that you like, and you could we could argue.

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00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: I think Vegas and the Giants are probably in that same.

522
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 2: The Giants in Tennessee. You're just having a conversation of

523
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: do you like Dart and do you like Ward? Yep,

524
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: if you like them, then those are great, So I

525
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: would kind of teer them together. Then, so I would

526
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: put like Miami Arizona. The Miami does have some pieces,

527
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: like you do have something.

528
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: Is a great player wad They've got a few guys, yeah,

529
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: for sure, But Miami, Arizona, Vegas. Then I think the

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Speaker 3: middle group would be depending on how you feel about

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Speaker 3: the quarterbacks, and that would be the draft quarterback. It

532
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: would be Vegas. It would be Jackson Dart, and then

533
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Speaker 3: it would be cam Ward, who I thought played pretty

534
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: well down the stretch and yeah, there are people are

535
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Speaker 3: a lot of And then the top two to me

536
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 3: would be Atlanta, but it would be on its own tier,

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00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 3: and then Baltimore's on its own two because Atlanta, you've

538
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: got ready made superstars on offense. You've got a good

539
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 3: defense as well, and you've got the easiest division in

540
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 3: football to win, easiest path, easiest path. Yeah, and then

541
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: Baltimore and then Baltimore's go win the super Bowl.

542
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, those would be the ones. And then Pittsburgh

543
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: is is really almost its own entire ecosystem.

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00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pittsburgh. Like I said, I think Pittsburgh is.

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00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: I think it's closest to the first tier. It's closer

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00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: to Miami Arizona. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's just a

547
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: where do you begin? He went all in with old

548
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 2: players this year. They did.

549
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: They're you know, TJ. Watt is not young. No, no,

550
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,239
Speaker 3: they've been getting banged up.

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00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: I mean Cam's got to be thirty seven, Cam Hayward, yeah,

552
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: how old? How old is Jalen Ramsey thirty? Yeah, the thirties.

553
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's not no, I really they went

554
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: that or and heavy. Metcalf's not even young anymore.

555
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: No, no, no, So yeah, they're in a that's a

556
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: reset situation. And honestly, I mean you could talk to

557
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: their fans. I'm sure maybe they want that, Maybe they

558
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: wanted your reset, Like, but be careful what you wish

559
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: for man.

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00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: I don't think that is a stadium that wants to

561
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: be playing meaningless football in December.

562
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: No, they don't even know. They haven't done it in

563
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: our life. No, they don't know what it's about. Not

564
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: in our life, do you. I mean you probably around here.

565
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: Remember a time when they were really bad? Yeah, like,

566
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: oh yeah, Mark Malone, Neil O'Donnell. It was well, but

567
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: o'donald got to a Super Bowl. Correct, But the Mark

568
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: Malone was right because after Bradshaw, they went to Malone

569
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: or Bubby Brister.

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00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 4: Bobby that's it. I'm like, I'm confused. We enjoyed him

571
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: eating plenty of turf in the eighties. We enjoyed beating that.

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00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 2: That's what they were the weakest in the division, right,

573
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: He had Bernie, Bengals had Boomer and then Warren Houston. Yeah,

574
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: warn Moon in Houston, so you had those are the

575
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: three at the top, and then Pittsburgh was the fourth.

576
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: I had been the last time they were at the bottom.

577
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was that stretch in the mid middle. It

578
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: was at the end of Chuck Nole's reign. Yeah, and

579
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: then they hired Kower and he flipped it retty quickly.

580
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: And then it's been Mike ever since.

581
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: By the way, Schottenheimer was replaced in two thousand and

582
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 4: seven in San Diego by Norbell.

583
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: Nor Turner. Nor Turner got that gig YEP, and.

584
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: The most coaching creatos in an NFL season work ten

585
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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty two. Mike McDaniel took over the Dolphins,

586
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell the Vikings. Brian Daball took over the Giants,

587
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: Doug Peterson took over the Jags, Todd Bowles took over

588
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay, Josh McDaniels took over the Raiders. Eber Flews

589
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: to the Bears, Dennis Allen to the Saints, Lovey Smith

590
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: to the Texans, and Nathaniel Hackett to Denver.

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00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: I have forgotten all about Nathaniel Hackett coaching team. And

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00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: the whole point of that was they thought they were

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Speaker 2: getting Rogers right because he was like his buddy in

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Speaker 2: Green Bay YEP. And Denver thought they were getting Rogers.

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00:29:54,160 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: Am I wrong? But didn't like did Hacket or mcdadaniels

596
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: even last the season? Josh McDon Did Josh McDaniels get

597
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: fired in season?

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Speaker 3: Look, I thought Hackett maybe didn't even make it to see.

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00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: I mean, remember what a joke that everybody knew that was?

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00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: That was a disaster. Yeah, he yeah, he got fired

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00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: after fifteen games. M Josh McDaniels. No, Hackett, Hackett, Hackett

602
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: did Yeah.

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00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 4: That was Daniels was fired mid season in twenty twenty three.

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00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: So he made it.

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Speaker 4: They were three and five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you guys remember when he interviewed here and

607
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: when we left were like we left thinking he's gonna

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00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: be the next coach of the Cleveland Crowns that day.

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00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: And that's the year. Is that the year that he

610
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: took the indie job? And then and then I think

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00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: went back on it.

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00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: I think you're right. Or after that, I can't remember.

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00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: I can't remember if that was in the Freddy sot No,

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00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: that would have been in the Kevin twenty yeah twenty yep. Yeah.

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00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: All right, update you on where things are around here

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00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: in terms of head coaches that we have interviewed. Completed

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00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: interviews with Tommy Reese, Jim Schwartz, Dan Pitcher, Aiden Dirty

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00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: Todd Munkin, and Mike McDaniel. We've requested interviews with Chargers

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator Jesse Minner Jaguars officsive coordinator Grant Yadinsky and

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Speaker 2: Rams passing game coordinator Nate Shieldhouse. So that's where that stands.

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Speaker 2: On matt At A John Harbaugh update from Tom Pelasaro.

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00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: Harbor has spoken by phone with each of the teams

623
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: that A vacancies as he narrows his options. Formal interviews

624
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: are going to come next on that. We also have

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00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: the wild Card round in the books now officially and

626
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: we have your divisional round schedule, So what that will

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00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: be for this week. It'll start four point thirty on Saturday,

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00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: Bills at Broncos. Then Saturday at eight o'clock will be

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Speaker 2: Niners at Seahawks. Sunday the early window three o'clock Texans

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00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: at Patriots, and then the night windows six point thirty

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Speaker 2: ram It at Bears.

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Speaker 4: So lights of times for all those. It's pretty good.

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00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: Gets me out of a dinner Saturday night. Even better,

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00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: that's a win.

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00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. We'll do one thought

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00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: around on the wild card weekend coming up next. Tous

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Speaker 2: Ballely Bet, official sports meeting partner of your Cleveland Browns.

646
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Speaker 2: Time for one thought around every wild Card game this weekend?

647
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Speaker 4: A look, give it, greetings and salutation, buddy, never a

648
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: dumb moment. We like, we like lots of busyness, lots

649
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: of craziness.

650
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: Crazy man, it is Harbor. I mean, so, where were

651
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: you so? Two thousand and five was the last time

652
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: that the division did not have Tomlin or Harbaugh? Yes,

653
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: where were you in two thousand and five? Promotion director

654
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: at ESPN Cleveland two thousand and five?

655
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: I was here, and I think I had either just

656
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: started or was a couple of years into the fantasy consult.

657
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, tellahassee I'm doing a show on ESPN Cleveland at

658
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: that time. Yeah, look how long you guys go back?

659
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: It's beautiful beautiful twenty years twa Tallahassee, Flores hosting The

660
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: Bowden Show, Precocious bouncing around.

661
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: I saw a clip. I think today is the anniversary

662
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 4: fifty years ago today. Yep, Bowden was hired and I

663
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 4: saw the introductory presser. Yeah, and about fell off my chair.

664
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: I think they did okay with that. Hire boy changed everything. Yeah.

665
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 2: By the way, our mutual buddy Jeen decker Off had

666
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: a great final send off in Tampa Diddy. Yeah, it

667
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: was really really good, really really good.

668
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 4: Is got to go find it.

669
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: He's always pure joy, always was his. He lived two

670
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: and a half blocks from me and was I saw

671
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: him all the time. He just always had the best

672
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: attitude ever. And he did these great ads for an

673
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 2: RV company because he had a van that he would

674
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: that would drive him from Tallahassee to Shore Bekase it's

675
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: about five hours, so he always had like this. He

676
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: always did like the RV ads because they gave him

677
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: the RV to drive from Tallahassee to Tampa.

678
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: Fantas which is great. That's that's a big play by

679
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 4: play job open massive. Yeah, yep, yeah, that's not too shabby.

680
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 4: Interesting all right.

681
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: One thought from five I think that's when I used

682
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: to go to bars and argue with people about what

683
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: was a sport and what wasn't.

684
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: People loved.

685
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 4: One thought from every game on a wild card weekend,

686
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: and we'll kick things off on Saturday. Rammit thirty four Panthers,

687
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 4: thirty one boh Bishop one thought.

688
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: To watch the Los Angeles Rams play everybody but Carolina

689
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: is a hell of a thing. And I don't know

690
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: what it is that Carolina has on them, but they

691
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: have something and this game should have been over at

692
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: half and I think McVeigh probably would maybe make that

693
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: decision back. But either way, the Rams survived here. And

694
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 2: there's a lot of layers to it because it's if

695
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford doesn't drive him down, he's going to win

696
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: the MVP, and if he didn't drive him down the

697
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: field for the Super Bowl, he's answered to a trivia

698
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: question of who's the last MVP to not make to

699
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: not win a playoff game. That's got to be a

700
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: relatively short list, especially for non buys, non number one

701
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: overall seed MVPs, So that would have been out there.

702
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: They get that done. But it did make me as

703
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: I'm watching it in real time and I did think

704
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: he would go down and score. But I'm watching it

705
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: in the real time with NBC, and I just am thinking.

706
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: It made me kind of rethink how chessy I was

707
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: on the Rams, because it's just I don't understand why

708
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: Carolina has them. But then they play almost everybody else

709
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: and they look like the Rams. But there's something about

710
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: that matchup that doesn't do well for Stafford. I don't

711
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: know what it is. Styles make the fights. I think.

712
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: Listen, if you go back into this one, when they're

713
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 3: up twenty, they're up seventeen to seven. If they would

714
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: have just kicked the field goal right there, that's the

715
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 3: pin goes twenty to seven with my guy MeVis. Instead,

716
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: they go for it, they don't get it. The Panthers

717
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: are able to score at the end of the half

718
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: with thirty seven seconds lest Bryce Young runs it in.

719
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: Now it's seventeen fourteen. Then they tie it up, and

720
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 3: then it just changed all ten of the game. Twenty

721
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 3: to seven. It might have been good night Irene right there. Yeah,

722
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: it really might have been. Then that's one that you know,

723
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: had they gone and gotten it, they were looking for

724
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: the knockout blow, but it might have been a case

725
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: of where they did, that would have been the knockout

726
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: blow just getting that field goal. But listen, Panthers were game.

727
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: You gotta give them a lot of credit. You know,

728
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: they got good young receivers. McMillan only seven targets but

729
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: five catches for eighty one yards. Coker had a nice game.

730
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: Bryce Young looks. You know, Legit made some big, big plays.

731
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: So if you're Carolina, you feel pretty good about it.

732
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: For the Rams, you gotta wonder if something has changed

733
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: with them defensively. Defensively, here's what they did starting season.

734
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna give out points allowed nine nineteen thirty

735
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: three to the Eagles, twenty twenty six to the Niners,

736
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: three to the Ravens, seven to the Jags, ten to

737
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 3: the Saints, twenty six nine ers nineteen Seahawks, seven bucks. Okay,

738
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 3: then they play Carolina and this is what they've given

739
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 3: up since then, thirty one, seventeen, thirty four, thirty eight,

740
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: twenty seven, twenty thirty one.

741
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: That's wow. That's not Taylor, two Cities, everybody that's not

742
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: winning defense.

743
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: So their defense is struggling, and I think if anything

744
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: ends up getting them knocked out, that's what it's going

745
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: to be and I mean, you know, you got a

746
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: Chicago team that can certainly put points on the board.

747
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: I think it'll be fascinating to see which Stafford you

748
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: get on Sunday.

749
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: I think it can fine.

750
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: I meant he was ten to fifteen. Yeah, and early

751
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: in the first half after that injury, two of twelve

752
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 4: for twenty four yards and a pick didn't look great.

753
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: But the fourth quarter he's got the two touchdown drive.

754
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: He was so good on the touchdown drive. The last drive. Money,

755
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: Just keep throwing to my tight end. That's it.

756
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: Two catches, give it, give me police, that's all I ate.

757
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 3: Just wait till we get to the standings.

758
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: Oh, I know that's need. I need about eight more

759
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 4: passes to him and we'll be fine. Eight'll be great.

760
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: Sixty next.

761
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 4: In the arguably the best game all weekend, Bears thirty

762
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: one Packers twenty seven. Green Bay goes home after blowing

763
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: a eighteen point leads. A girl one thought.

764
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: I mean, Cayleb Williams throw on the fourth down is

765
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: one of the greatest throws I think, arguably in NFL history.

766
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: You know, he's never going to complete a high percentage,

767
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 3: but twenty four forty three sixty one the two touchdowns

768
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: he makes plays with his legs, they can run it.

769
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: Colson Loveland, I think is on his way to becoming

770
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: a megastar. And you're kind of wondering, like, where was

771
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: it the first half of the season. Well, I kind

772
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 3: of got clued into something that I didn't know about,

773
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: and I'm glad I didn't because he's got on a

774
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: lot of my fantasy teams. That means he'll be on

775
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: my fantasy teams next year as well. But you know,

776
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: he basically didn't do anything until the season started, and

777
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: so Jim Duray, who was their tight end coach former Brown,

778
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: they needed to kind of ease him in. Well, guess what,

779
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: they've eased him in, and he's now kind of the

780
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: top target. And so you've got Loveland you've got to

781
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: worry about. You've got Roma Dunes eight, You've got DJ Moore,

782
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: You've got Luther Burden.

783
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: I mean, they're.

784
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: Loaded, loaded, good, incredible. When I feel bad for Jordan Love,

785
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: honestly feel bad for the Packers because they deserve to

786
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: win this game, and this game will be looked at

787
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: and everyone's on the floor this that whatever the fact

788
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: of the matter is they were so efficient on offense.

789
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: The offensive game plan was outrageously good. The difference in

790
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: this game really if you just if you didn't watch it,

791
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: you wouldn't know. Brandon McManus missed two field goals and

792
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: extra point.

793
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I it's the.

794
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: Extra point and the one field goal I want to

795
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: say in the fourth quarter, and that's that's it.

796
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: And hey, wide receivers, catch your pass for green.

797
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: Bay when they scored a goal of twenty seven to sixteen,

798
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: he misses that extra point right there. Then the Bears score,

799
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: make it twenty seven to twenty four. That should be

800
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: twenty eight, twenty four. Mcmahonus gets a with two minutes

801
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: and fifty six seconds ago, misses a forty four yard

802
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 3: field goal, giving the Bears the ball on their own

803
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: thirty four.

804
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: Yep.

805
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: And they go down and they score and they win

806
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: it again. Now, had he just made the field goal,

807
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: or had he made just the extra point, it's thirty

808
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: one to twenty eight. If he made the field goal,

809
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: it's thirty one thirty and they got to the Chicago

810
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: twenty eight.

811
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: Yep.

812
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: That would have been a forty six yard field goal

813
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: attempt to win the game or tie the game.

814
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: So they did everything.

815
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: That's it's a tough lossum great for the Bears and

816
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: all the people who love the Bears.

817
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: Awesome. No one's gonna going around here is going to

818
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: shed a tear for them. But the Packers have an

819
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: inordinate amount of postseason tragedy. Yeah, I mean they really do.

820
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: Like a lot of home playoff games they lost, Pick

821
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: six is weird, overtime games, the hassleback game, Rogers at

822
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: the Cusp, Love at the Cusp, go all the way

823
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: back to FARV. There's some crazy ones that he lost.

824
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: But when they lose to Tampa where they are going

825
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: in the first half and there's another one they blow

826
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: a defense and let Brady throw like a seventy yard

827
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: touchdown going to the half of that should have.

828
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: Been over over done. So they haven't. They've won the

829
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: Super Bowls and they win a lot, so no one's

830
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: gonna feel sorry for him, but they probably should have

831
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: won more through the years. They have a little bit

832
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: of playoff bad luck. And I would just say this,

833
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: I mentioned this yesterday. Had Ben Johnson, I do not.

834
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: I wish he wouldn't have said that type of language

835
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: because they gets shoved out on all the socials and

836
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: the kids see it like my kids already, Hey dad,

837
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: you see this Like they're already seeing that. But at

838
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: the same and that's fine, they're used to. I mean,

839
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: it's a big world. We got to handle it. But

840
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: he's trying. He is changing the culture. Yes, and what

841
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: he is saying, he is speaking doesn't really care about

842
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: the outside. He's thinking about his fan base, his team,

843
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: his ownership, his culture. He's trying to say we bow

844
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: down to them, no more. We toppled them, and we're

845
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: going to continue to top them because I hate them.

846
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: And that's something that probably over there they've wanted for

847
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: a long time. I hate him. I'm the man. This

848
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: is about us. I think he may have said something like,

849
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: if you don't wear brown and if you.

850
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: Don't wear blue an orange, lil matter.

851
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody, that's what it felt like. Did feel like that?

852
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 4: Next we go to Sunday, the Bills go into Jacksonville

853
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 4: and they take out the Armpit of America twenty seven

854
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: to twenty four.

855
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: Your final score. The Armpit of America was like seventy

856
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: one degrees and sun kissed on Sunday. It was looked

857
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: like it was nice think like they did.

858
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so this one was this was nance Romo, right,

859
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 3: it was let me tell you something. You talk about

860
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: losing the fastball. Yeah yeah, it is hard to watch

861
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: their broadcasts or to listen to their broadcast.

862
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah.

863
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 3: At one point, I'm pretty sure I'm paraphrasing, but Romo

864
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: said something like, well, if they win this game, they

865
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 3: get to play next week.

866
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: Like uh huh, yeah, don't say it's the playoffs. That's

867
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: do you think with him? Like once he stopped being

868
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: able to predict the plays, then that there because there

869
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: was that was such a new thing. When he started

870
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: doing that, everyone was in awe of it. But now

871
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: that they either they told him to tone it down

872
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: or he doesn't do it anymore. Maybe he can't because

873
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: he doesn't know, isn't as familiar with the league. I

874
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: don't know.

875
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: But it's like he didn't have another pitch. It feels like,

876
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, it just feels like he is. He

877
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: even looks a little odd to me.

878
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It's like he is not.

879
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like he is what we have seen

880
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: it is like this sh oh, yeah, Brady is Brady

881
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: was excellent in that game. Yeah, excellent. And a year

882
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: ago he was a tough less and he was excellent

883
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: in that game.

884
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: Well, and this is Aikman's unbelievable. I was a fan

885
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: of Akman. Well, I think him. I think I think

886
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: Fox saying yeah, we're good, you can go somewhere else.

887
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: I think that was a shot in the arm for

888
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: Akman because he's an ESPN going you can say whatever

889
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: whatever you want. No, He's like, let's have some fun

890
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: with this. On this game, Jacksonville was one of the

891
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: hottest teams in the league. They had been playing lights

892
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: out football. This is and I really believe this. I

893
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: think this is the worst team that Josh Allen has

894
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 2: ever quarterbacked seriously into the postseason since he's been full form.

895
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, my guy goes twenty eight to thirty five,

896
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: two seventy three, a touchdown, no picks. Their leading rusher

897
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: was James Cook. Jackson will shut him down fifteen for

898
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: forty six. Allen contributed thirty three and two more on

899
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: the ground. That's what an MVP does, That's what a

900
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: dude does. He that his performance because I really thought

901
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: Jacksonville would beat him. I thought Jackson's I still think

902
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: Jackson was a better team. But that's what happens. We

903
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 2: have a super duperstar that just says hop on, hop on, yeah,

904
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: and it might be enough to go all the way

905
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: with coming and they can't stop it because like this weekend,

906
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 2: it's him against pon Nix.

907
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: There isn't one dominant team, which I do think gives

908
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 3: him a little bit of a better opportunity to do

909
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: the things that you're talking about. I thought that when

910
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 3: he had the sneak from I think it was the eleven,

911
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: the tush push and his lineman picks him up and

912
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: Osiris whatever the guy's name is, picks him up and

913
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: carries him and they take him. It look like in

914
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: the Osiris Torrance the guard, it looked like a touchdown,

915
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: but he was down at the one and they score

916
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: on the next one. I thought the game was over

917
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: at that point. When you get guys just walk like

918
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: dog walk you ten yards in the NFL, like that's

919
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: the moralizing.

920
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: I felt like that was it.

921
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: And you know, Trevor Lawrence played, well, that's a tough pick,

922
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: but you know, tips and overthrows got to get those,

923
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: and they did. I don't think the Bills are very good.

924
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: I think what's fun about this is that I don't

925
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 3: think there's anybody that's the prohibitive favorite to win it.

926
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 3: I think everybody's got issues, but everybody's got excitement and talent.

927
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 3: What I like about it is, you know, the Bills

928
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: can score and if they can get ahead, they've got

929
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: good pass defense, if they can get a big, if

930
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: they can get a lead against Denver, I think they

931
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: can beat Denver. You know New England. On the other side,

932
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: you've got New England and Houston. That's I don't think

933
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: it'll be a stylistically pleasing game. It doesn't feel like,

934
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: but it'll be kind of a fun slug vest the

935
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: NFC side, I think you can have a couple of

936
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: Seattle Niners and then then be Bears Rams and he's

937
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: the most fun game the NFC, like they have to

938
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: pick a conference this weekend. Oh NFC, it's all of it.

939
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: They also need to stub let me just real quick

940
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 3: to jump in there. You can't make They've released the times, right, Yeah,

941
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: what are the times?

942
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: It's on here?

943
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 4: Yeah?

944
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: Early, it's like at the four thirty and eighty on

945
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: Saturday three and six, three and six thirty on Sunday,

946
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: and who's on Saturday nine or socks? Right, if they're in,

947
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: they're in the night game, and then the adults the

948
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: Denver Buffalo is the early game.

949
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: I just think like for a Niners team when the

950
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: other team's coming off of like give them the extra day.

951
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: You know, when you've got Houston is playing. Houston's on

952
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: a short week. Well, everybody team's on a short week. Yeah,

953
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: they should have Buffalo too.

954
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: They should have a.

955
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: Monday game, right that Buffalo shouldn't be doing that either.

956
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, a TV run things, so they and Buffalo has

957
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: got to go to Denver. Nobody should be playing on Monday.

958
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: And well no, of course not.

959
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous they if you ask, they'd probably rather play Friday. Yeah,

960
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I mean, you didn't miss anything in

961
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 3: football on Friday.

962
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: He didn't need to.

963
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: That was on a game that needed to be We

964
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 3: did not need to see that. That was like watching

965
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: Reek with Ramsey's Bolton Cheese.

966
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 4: Up next, Pedro Junior give US forty nine Ers twenty

967
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 4: three Eagles nineteen. The Eagles, by the way, just firing

968
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 4: their offensive coordinate.

969
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: As they should.

970
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: I mean their offense was dreadful. What an incredible job

971
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: by Kyle Shanahan. I mean, just an abs master of

972
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: his craft. No Kiddle, no Ayuk, no Piersol. Those are

973
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: supposed to be your three top pass catchers coming into

974
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: the season. They you know, did a pretty good job

975
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: against McCaffrey running the ball, but they still found ways

976
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: to get him. DeMarcus Robinson hits big plays when they

977
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: needed him to. Juwan Jennings, you know, you dial up

978
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: the trick play and hit it right when you needed to.

979
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 3: It was just masterful. Eagles offense dreadful. Just awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome,

980
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 3: great for Kyle, great for the Niners. Loved every second

981
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: of it. My Pedro was fired up. Facetimed him during

982
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: the game multiple times and he was all fired up.

983
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 5: It was.

984
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: It's just an incredible win for them. I mean, they

985
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: are so depleted. You think of like if you made

986
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: a poster going into the season of the Niners guys

987
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: that were going to be on that poster, you know, defensively,

988
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: it would have been Boson Warner gone Offensively, you know,

989
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 3: Trump Willams could be on there. He's missed some time,

990
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: pretty missed seven games McCaffrey's been the only constant a

991
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: Yuk never played a snap.

992
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: Is there a chance Warner comes back this week?

993
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: NFC Championship is the earliest I think.

994
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 4: Okay, I think showed him working out.

995
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, oh, I don't know Kyle like

996
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: you do. And I obviously didn't grow up a Niners fan,

997
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: but just from the standpoint of in awe of what

998
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: he gets out of teams, and I think he's just

999
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 2: one of these years he's got to win the Super

1000
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: Bowl so he gets that full praise because right now

1001
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: he's on that very short list of best coaches in

1002
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 2: NFL history to not win it. He's on that list.

1003
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he's definitely on that list, like in terms

1004
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: of knocked on the door so many times, Like I'm

1005
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: trying to think who else would be on that list,

1006
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: Like Marty probably would be on that list, those type

1007
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: of guys who coached. Now he doesn't have the longevity

1008
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: yet of Marty, but like the only thing missing everything

1009
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: else he's done, Like he's done at all. He just

1010
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: needs to win that. Like how Andy Reid was in

1011
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: Philly for the longest time. He was like, God, Andy

1012
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: Reid's the best coach in football, but he can't say

1013
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: it until he wins it. Then he gets the Wizard

1014
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he wins a bunch of them.

1015
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: But that's kind of what I feel like Kyle's at

1016
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: that point right now in his career. All that's missing

1017
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: is the ultimate success and this is the year.

1018
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: And look, the reality is, you got to go beat

1019
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: If you're the Niners, you know the way that it

1020
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: shakes out for you. You've got to beat Seattle in Seattle,

1021
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: which you've done this year. You would have to either

1022
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: beat the Rams in LA which guess what you've done

1023
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: this year.

1024
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: And a home game that'll be all read.

1025
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: Or you'd have to beat the Bears in Chicago. Now

1026
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 3: you haven't beaten them in Chicago, but you beat the

1027
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 3: Bears this year, so you've beaten everybody that is ahead

1028
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 3: of you this season.

1029
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: Yep. Finally to round out Sunday, this.

1030
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 3: Is a year ball bounces right a couple of way.

1031
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 3: Anybody can beat anybody that's left. I really think, yeah,

1032
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: I agree, I think it's completely well.

1033
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 4: The Chargers fired Greg Roman. They're oc earlier today as well.

1034
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 4: Chargers in their season at the hands of the new

1035
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 4: England Patriots sixteen to three bo Bishop.

1036
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 2: This was a this was a physical game, variable culture, Tornado,

1037
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: Drake may all of those things, But I'm gonna I'm

1038
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: gonna spend just a couple seconds on Justin Herbert. He

1039
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: is easy to pick on because the playoff success isn't there.

1040
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: But if you watch this game, and if you watch

1041
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: the assault that he was under from start to finish,

1042
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: there was a time he got folded in half and

1043
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: then got hit in the face by somebody else's helmet,

1044
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: and I just thought, I don't know how he gets

1045
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 2: up from that. He just got completely bludgeoned. And Harbaugh

1046
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: usually gets these things kind of sorted out. He did

1047
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. They need to fix that promptly with

1048
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: the Chargers, that they're gonna waste him from just getting

1049
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: beaten to an oblivion. I mean, it feels a lot

1050
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: like Andrew Luck sometimes in Indy. Now they luck one

1051
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: more in AFC that was even tougher at that time,

1052
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: but man, did he take a beating. And that's what

1053
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: I get. Watching Herbert feels like watching.

1054
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 3: Luck, Like just a lot of hits tough, tough, and

1055
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 3: they've tried. I mean, they tried a draft offensive lineman.

1056
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: They tried to beef up down and there is beating

1057
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 3: up and yeah he got smoked, get smoked.

1058
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 4: Final one last night. We've already kind of touched on

1059
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 4: it a little bit, but Texans thirty Pukers six, and

1060
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 4: what ended up being Mike tomlins final game as head coach.

1061
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: Of the Steeler.

1062
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 3: I mean, to win ten games with that offense as

1063
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 3: the Steelers did is really remarkable because.

1064
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: It's it was awful. It was hard to watch. I mean,

1065
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: it's so so bad. Such a pessimistic approach. Oh yeah,

1066
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: throwing it like behind the line of scrimmage, like over

1067
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: and over and over again, like just nothing I do.

1068
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 3: I'm worried for the Texans because it is a short

1069
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: week turnaround. I'm worried for the Texans with if they

1070
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 3: do not have Nico Collins.

1071
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: I think that is well, that's a.

1072
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 4: Worry about their quarterback holding on to the foot.

1073
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna. I don't want to do Buckeye on

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00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: Buckeye crime here, but I'm gonna. I really hate doing this.

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00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: I don't know what difference that make if Nico Collins

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00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: plays or not, because CJ won't be able to throw

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00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: it to him. The throw that he missed on the

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00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: crosser to Nico Collins in the second quarter, There wasn't

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00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: anybody within thirty yards of him in any direction. No,

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00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: it's a layup. That's that is a layup at the

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00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: pro level. And I know CJ. Stroud can make that throw.

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00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: You know how I know it because I've seen him

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00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: do it. We saw him do it against us. We

1084
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: saw him one of the great rookie seasons of all time.

1085
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: He was seeing ghosts in the first half of that game.

1086
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: His eyes were like this. He had no confidence in

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00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: anything he was doing. Should have got picked six. This

1088
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: crazy throw he made to the sideline that could have

1089
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: gone back the other way for six easily if Pittsburgh's

1090
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: corners were in position to make him pay for it.

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00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: We talked about Pittsburgh a lot and him getting the

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00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: most out of that. CJ. Stroud in that game. The

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00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: bad for him is so bad, and I just he

1094
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: never had rookie year. He didn't have that. So I

1095
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: don't know what has happened, but it's it was bad.

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00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: Last stumbled five times, dude. He was so bad last night. Crazy, yeah, nuts, crazy,

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00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: absolutely nuts, all right. Second hour of the program coming

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Speaker 2: up next, we got a little higher. We had all

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Speaker 2: sorts of fun a little higher lower fund some fun

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Speaker 2: audio from Steve Bashatti as well. We'll get you an

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Speaker 2: update on our fantasy playoff standings as well. In a

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Speaker 2: All right, we have a pope ree from Steve Bashatti's

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Speaker 2: press conference over in Baltimore. We do we do Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: John Moments of the g man who was monitoring this

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00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 4: bad boy, I mean it was still going forty five

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00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: minutes in Stephen Bashatti, the owner of the Ravens, and

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00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 4: the GM of the Ravens, Eric DaCosta. These are all

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Speaker 4: Bashadi clips cut Number one. Bashadi on when and why

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00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 4: he made the decision to get rid of John Harbaugh.

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00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: What was the biggest reason that led to your decision

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Speaker 2: and when exactly did you make the decision to fire

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Speaker 2: John Horball.

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00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 5: I staked out of position. I had come to, you know,

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Speaker 5: with a lot of thought and a lot of prayer,

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00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 5: gave a lot of time to it. I may I

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Speaker 5: think I talked to you three or four weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's I guess the hardest part was the reasons,

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00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 5: and unfortunately, you know, most of these can't get traced

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Speaker 5: back to John necessarily. Factually, we led the league in

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00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 5: giving up big leads in the fourth quarter. It's not

1130
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 5: something that winning organizations do. We have underperformed based on

1131
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 5: our seating in the playoffs, very disappointing. A lot of

1132
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 5: our great players involved making mistakes that they don't make

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00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 5: during the regular season very often.

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Speaker 2: In the last ten years, we've won.

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Speaker 5: The third most games in the NFL, and yet people

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00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 5: were saying we were underachievers. We were, and we had

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00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 5: to own that. I woke up Monday and I was

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00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 5: pretty sure that I was going to do it.

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00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: That's pretty good candor. Oh you want Cander, he gave

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00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: you candor. Yeah, it was great, It's awesome. I love it.

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00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 4: Stephen Bushatti on whether Lamar will sit in on these

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00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 4: coach interviews.

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00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 5: I think that Eric made it clear to Lamar that

1144
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 5: when we get down here talking to him. I think

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00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 5: he's texting Lamar after after every interview, whether it's zoom

1146
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 5: or in person, and I think he's getting some opinions

1147
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 5: from Lamar. I said to Lamar last night, when they

1148
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 5: call me up from Florida, you better get your mess

1149
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 5: up here too, because if you want to do the interviewing,

1150
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 5: these are going to be full day meetings like they

1151
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 5: were eighteen years ago, and they go.

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00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: From department to department to department.

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00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 6: Right.

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00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 5: So I said to Lamar, you can jump on my

1155
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 5: plane or find another way to get up there. But

1156
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 5: if you're that interested, then we're going to get a schedule.

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00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 5: He's going to call me up. He's going to offer

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00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 5: you the same luxury. And I said, I hope you

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00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 5: take it. He said, yes, Sir, I think I will.

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Speaker 2: Give a well and it's it's public.

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00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so now there will be is there the

1162
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: follow through and people will be able to monitor that.

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00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: It's accountability. It's forced accountability, is what that is like.

1164
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: If he doesn't show, well, then you know that was

1165
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: his choice not to. Yep, we'd love to have him here.

1166
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Speaker 2: We love to have him way in on all of it.

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00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: I really think, I mean this, this situation in Bolton,

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00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: when's the last time. Well, we can finish listening and

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Speaker 2: then I want to question to post you both of you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, here's bashaty on how long he'd give a new

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Speaker 4: head coach.

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Speaker 7: Steve, this is only the second time you'll have to

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00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 7: go through the process with your leadership team to hire

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Speaker 7: a head coach. Because you've had so much success in

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00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 7: eighteen years. Are you essentially telling your next head coach

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Speaker 7: you need to get to the super Bowl fast?

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Speaker 5: Well, it took Billick two years, John five, Maybe I'll

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Speaker 5: give this guy six.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I hope we picked the kind of guy

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00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 5: that's going to get us there. I think we have

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00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 5: a roster that's capable of it. I think we have

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00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 5: a GM that's capable of making that roster better on

1184
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 5: the fly. Yeah, I'll be patient to that point.

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Speaker 2: Jerry.

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Speaker 5: I'd probably give him five or six years as long

1187
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 5: as I like everything else I see in him.

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Speaker 4: It's great, no pressure.

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Speaker 2: Well, look you should. I mean it's already made. It's

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Speaker 2: a ready made job. It's yeah. I mean, this was

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Speaker 2: gonna ask you, is when's the last time a job

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00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: like this came open? It's a good question. I can't

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00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: think of one on the top of my head, Like

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00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: with a two time MVP, like Manning after Dungee retired.

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00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: Is that is that the next the last time that

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Speaker 2: something like this with Caldwell? Was Caldwell there though it

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00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: wasn't he? I think he was, didn't They promote from within? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so they didn't go higher. It sound like Bill walts toe.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right on that, and have to get

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00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: the kids to look at it. But I think you're

1202
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: right on that.

1203
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 3: That when it's internal feels like a succession plan as

1204
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: opposed to.

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00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: Like this is jobs open, jobs open? Yeah, I don't know,

1206
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: you're in print. There's been that. I'm trying to think,

1207
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: like the last time that you had a Cowboys after

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00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: Jimmy although they won Super bowls Lamar hasn't won a

1209
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: Super Bowl yet Switzerland, No, that would be it. When

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00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: he fired, When he fired Jimmy. Yeah, is that it? Yeah,

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00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: it's like, whoa McCarty, What about Green Bay? What about

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00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: in Tampa? Yeah, that's pretty good because Rogers was still

1213
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Speaker 2: at his MVP level when they hired Lafleur. What about Tampa?

1214
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: Those arians? But was he there?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: Brden Brewden for Dungee, Gruden for Dungeee they fired Dungee

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Speaker 2: and then but I want like, did we I can't

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Speaker 2: remember the dialogue around it that Tampa team hadn't won,

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01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: but they always were so offensively limited defensively they were great.

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Speaker 2: They lost a crazy playoff game with Sean King at

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Speaker 2: quarterback in Philly that I remember. It's just very rare

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Speaker 2: that you get, you know, a two time MVP in

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Speaker 2: his prime with a roster that's built for his strengths

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Speaker 2: without really any holes. I mean, the Baltimore Ravens don't

1225
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Speaker 2: really have holes, not really. I mean it's tweak here

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Speaker 2: or there, but there. They'll be one of the favorites

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Speaker 2: to win it if they hire the right they're pretty

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Speaker 2: good at tweaking.

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Speaker 3: Well to do we have in one of the clips

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Speaker 3: just kind of talking about everything that's going on with

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Speaker 3: the Ravens, is that you know, Mashadi also that in

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Speaker 3: there the college coaches have contacted them. Yeah, and he said, yeah,

1233
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Speaker 3: of course they would want to do this. He said,

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Speaker 3: Now Eric is interested in talking to them, that's up

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Speaker 3: to Eric. But he goes being a college coach with

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Speaker 3: the portal and all that, he goes, it's a living hell,

1237
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Speaker 3: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not here to I don't want this being

1239
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Speaker 2: something going viral. But like if you were Ryan Day

1240
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Speaker 2: and you're an offensive minded head coach and you're looking

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01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: at that and you have NFL history, Yeah, you know

1242
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: those type of like Dan Lanning, he's an offensive minded coach.

1243
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Speaker 2: Defensive guy, but like those type of guys, these young,

1244
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: energetic dudes. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

1245
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Speaker 4: Maybe a little less stress, oh god, yeah.

1246
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, way less.

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Speaker 3: You have your life, by the way, Diana Russini an

1248
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 3: hour ago, says, John Harbaugh continues to gather information about

1249
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Speaker 3: his next landing spot until the Giants, Falcons, and Titans

1250
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 3: are considered the favorites to land the former Ravens head

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Speaker 3: coach at this time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I he's sixty three, So like, unless

1253
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: you love cam Ward or Jackson Dart, Atlanta is the

1254
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: most ready but the one thing that we don't know

1255
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: about a quarterback. You know the other thing about Atlanta,

1256
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: Buddy Atlanta, Arthur Blank has not shown a willingness to

1257
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Speaker 2: just give the keys. Like Belichick wanted that job and

1258
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: they got talked out of it. They thought they were

1259
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: gonna go Belichick. Then they didn't go that way. Like

1260
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: he's got his structure in place. They just hired Matt Ryan.

1261
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: Like Harbaugh would not. He would answer to more people

1262
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 2: than just one in Atlanta. In the other two jobs

1263
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: in Tennessee, he would answer to nobody. It's an ownership.

1264
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: Probably same with Giants, he'd answer to nobody.

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Speaker 4: Final one here from Bashati being notified real time that

1266
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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin had stepped down as coach of the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Steve, I just had these reports that Mike Tomlin has

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Speaker 5: got uh termin editor step down.

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01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Mike, Mike Tomlin stepped down at Pittsburgh. He did?

1270
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Speaker 2: Is it official? That's what I keep hearing. So is

1271
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Speaker 2: he a candidate here?

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Speaker 5: Holy Mike, wouldn't that be awesome? Only if John takes

1273
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh job. Wow, wouldn't that be interesting? I don't

1274
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 5: know that that thing last week maybe disqualified him from

1275
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 5: my from my opening after our kicker, mister kick to

1276
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 5: let them advance.

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Speaker 2: Good for Mike. I love Mike.

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Speaker 5: I mean I've I've admired Mike for eighteen years and

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01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 5: that's really uh shocking that that that he did it

1280
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 5: that way. Yeah, that's that's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's great, great answer.

1282
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Speaker 4: I had an interesting, uh one of one of the

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Speaker 4: guys who listens to the show, one of the Carroll brothers,

1284
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 4: reached out. He said, if tom Lin go somewhere, does

1285
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh get compensation picks because technically he wasn't.

1286
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: Fired, he stepped down.

1287
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think they would be eligible for that.

1288
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,479
Speaker 2: It just screams that he's gonna sit it or maybe

1289
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 2: do TV right. I don't think he was going to

1290
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: paratrut back into this. And yep, you know, take a

1291
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: little break. It's been nineteen years, man. Yeah. There was

1292
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 2: a lot of whispers, I think before before the college

1293
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: game got nuts, there's a lot of whispers that a

1294
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: lot of people wanted him to run college jobs because

1295
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: the style of leadership is so infectious that he would

1296
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 2: really crush that. And I think in the old days

1297
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: when you could have had a life and had a

1298
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: college job. I think he would have been amazing at that,

1299
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: but now don't. I can't imagine him signing up for

1300
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: this world. Yeah it is now, so I wouldn't be

1301
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: surprised to be sad.

1302
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 4: The early Vegas odds, by the way, are out on

1303
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 4: the next Pukers head coach, Brian Flores coming in as

1304
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 4: your leader. Marcus Freeman number two.

1305
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: Freman is two in Pittsburgh.

1306
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jesse Minter the third, best odds, Chris Shula the fourth,

1307
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 4: Anthony Weaver the fifth. The other names the Vegas is

1308
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 4: throwing out there, Salah Halfley. They have Antoine randall El

1309
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 4: at fourteen to one. I'll just say this about Boganski

1310
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 4: at sixteen to one. I'll say both of these jobs.

1311
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 2: Though. The last time they made these hires, they came

1312
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: out of nowhere. Nowhere. John Harper, I'll never forget. I

1313
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: didn't even know there was another Harbaugh. Yep, when they

1314
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: hired him. Yeah, I just thought there was Jim. I

1315
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: didn't know that he had a brother, had no idea,

1316
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: of course, I wasn't looking into it. But they hired

1317
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: him from the what Eagles special teams coordinator and he

1318
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: got that gig. Yeah, and then the Tomlin one. I

1319
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: don't remember as well where he came from, but I

1320
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: remember being surprised by it. Now, I wasn't following the

1321
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 2: league then the way that I do now, so maybe

1322
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: it wasn't as much of a surprise. But both of

1323
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: those hires kind of came out of nowhere, like those

1324
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: two organizations do things different. Absolutely, absolutely, one thing I.

1325
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 3: Wanted to give because I actually got a couple tweets

1326
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 3: about this, and I think it makes sense. People are

1327
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 3: so interested in these coaching hiring cycles and how this

1328
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 3: interview process actually works, and I don't think people understand

1329
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 3: exactly how it works this year because the rules are

1330
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 3: different and have changed a little bit on how teams

1331
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 3: can contact candidates.

1332
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 2: So last week.

1333
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 3: The only candidates who could be interviewed in person were

1334
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 3: coaches who were fired.

1335
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

1336
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 3: So once the games last Tuesday, so we could go today,

1337
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 3: head coaching interviews could begin. Four teams that played on

1338
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 3: one three or one four last Tuesday, last Thursday, which

1339
01:06:55,640 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 3: was Saturday and Sunday, those could only be virtual. And

1340
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 3: it's for the wildcard games. For teams that had buys,

1341
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: they could be virtual this week right now. Coaching Canada

1342
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: who played in wildcard games can begin interviews today again

1343
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 3: virtually only virtually. Then you've got as it goes on

1344
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 3: into next week. That's when teams after the divisional round,

1345
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 3: that's when you can start to interview in do in

1346
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 3: person interviews. So coaches team is playing in the wildcard

1347
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 3: round can participate initial interviews three days after the team's

1348
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 3: wildcard matchup. Likewise, the meetings must take place before the

1349
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 3: end of the divisional round. Once the division these are

1350
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 3: all virtual only. Virtual coaches seem in the playoffs but

1351
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 3: received wildcard buy can be participate in virtual interviews three

1352
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 3: days after their Week eighteen game. All such meetings must

1353
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 3: be completed before the wildcard games conclude. Once the divisional

1354
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 3: rounds are concluded, teams can begin holding in person interviews,

1355
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 3: but only with Canada. Two seasons have all al ready ended,

1356
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 3: So any team next week after these games this weekend,

1357
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 3: anybody whose team was knocked out in the wildcard round,

1358
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 3: you can interview them in person. Any coach who had

1359
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 3: been fired, anybody else who's done can be interviewed in person.

1360
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 3: Teams cannot schedule initial interviews with candidates employed by the

1361
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 3: AFC or NFC championship participants until the end of that

1362
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 3: employer team season, and the employer teams cannot voluntarily grant

1363
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 3: permission their coaches to participate in interviews. So if you're

1364
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 3: still going nothing to the championship game, no in person

1365
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 3: interviews or virtual interviews.

1366
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: Yet.

1367
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 3: You could have done a virtual interview earlier, but you

1368
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 3: couldn't do an in person interview during the bye week

1369
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 3: between the conference championship games and the Super Bowl. Franchises

1370
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: can schedule virtual or in person interviews with coaches competing

1371
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl. Teams conducting those interviews must notify

1372
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 3: the candidate's employer teams one Super Bowl week begins. Interested

1373
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 3: teams must wait until after the day after the Super

1374
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 3: Bowl to resume any contact with these candidates. So if

1375
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 3: you're eliminated in the championship game, all fair game after

1376
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 3: the championship game, if you win the championship game going

1377
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, it can only be the week

1378
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 3: of the buye in between that you could do interviews.

1379
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 3: Then you have to wait until after the Super Bowl

1380
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 3: to pick up contact. Then the other part of it

1381
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 3: with the Rooney rule is that you must interview an

1382
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 3: in person interview with at least two external candidate to

1383
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 3: our minorities and or women. Virtual interviews do not qualify

1384
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 3: under the Rooney rule. So next week is when in

1385
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: person interviews are going to start happening here and around.

1386
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 3: So like now, like Mike McDaniel could do an in

1387
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 3: person interview now because he was a fired coach, all

1388
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,839
Speaker 3: the fired coaches could do in person interviews.

1389
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,480
Speaker 2: But anybody who was a coordinator.

1390
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 3: Somewhere else or was not a fired head coach, they

1391
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 3: can only do interviews in person after next week unless

1392
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 3: they're in the championship game.

1393
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 2: So, like I said, the rams make it.

1394
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 3: Then you know, those guys would have to be in

1395
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 3: that week between either after the championship game and they lose,

1396
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 3: or that same week if they go to the Super Bowl.

1397
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: But that's it.

1398
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 3: So it's different this year. I don't remember the restrictions

1399
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: being I.

1400
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: Don't remember him like that in terms of like if

1401
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: you're situaling vers all of that now, I don't recall

1402
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: that either. So that's how it works.

1403
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 3: So you won't start hearing about in person interviews with

1404
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 3: non fired head coaches until next week.

1405
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 2: We have a statement from Mike Tomlin After much thought

1406
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 2: and reflection, I decided to step down as head coach

1407
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: with the Pittsburgh Steelers. This organization been a huge part

1408
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: of my life for many years. It has been an

1409
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 2: absolute honor to lead this team. I'm deeply grateful for

1410
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: Art Rooney the Second and the late Ambassador Rooney for

1411
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 2: their trust and support. I'm also thankful for the players

1412
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: who gave everything they had every day into the coaches

1413
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 2: and staff whose commitment and dedication made this journey so meaningful.

1414
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: I also want to thank Steelers Nation. Your passion, loyalty,

1415
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 2: high expectations represent what makes this franchise truly special. Coaching

1416
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh is unlike anywhere else, and I will always

1417
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: take great pride in having been a steward for this team.

1418
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: While this chapter comes to close, my respect and love

1419
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 2: for the Pittsburgh Steelers will never change. I'm excited for

1420
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: what the future holds for this organization, and I'll forever

1421
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: be grateful for my time coaching in Pittsburgh. So there

1422
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: you go. We're doing what we were we up to.

1423
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: Next we do a little hiher.

1424
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 4: Lowan, so we'll get to hire a lower but we'll

1425
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 4: have a little fun next and do our fantasy update,

1426
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 4: Fantasy update, and then we'll end with the hire a loan.

1427
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 2: Right, very good, give me, thank you. That's all coming

1428
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,519
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1434
01:11:53,040 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 2: Fantasy playoff competition at stake the check or a dinner

1435
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: for five lunch lunch, A dinner for five at a

1436
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: white tablecloth is the way that I remember it.

1437
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 5: I like that.

1438
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: That's the way I remembered it was dinner for five,

1439
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: white table It was not written that way I wrote it.

1440
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 2: I know, I saw me do it. I feel like

1441
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: I remember what you think you remember it the way similarly? Yeah,

1442
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: all right, so we got an update. We're an even

1443
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: update on where we are sure? All right? So the

1444
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: idea was we had a fantasy draft last Friday. Last

1445
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 2: Friday last Friday, had one and snake draft and we

1446
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 2: went through it and it's cumulative six positions.

1447
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 4: But for every loss, you can't replace anybody, no f night,

1448
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 4: you need them through. You need your guys to win

1449
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 4: out and win as much as possible.

1450
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're looking for quantity and quality both. Yeah, yep,

1451
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: so far I have found neither yet again, Oh no,

1452
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 2: God forbid, give it. We'll go from five to one

1453
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 2: and oh shoot, well, guess who's in last? Ye me

1454
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: come on twenty six and a half. Now I have

1455
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 2: three guys on the bye. Well you're okay. Then I

1456
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: had three on the bye. I don't know if he

1457
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 2: is okay. I don't make it. Okay. Have you lost

1458
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 2: anybody yet?

1459
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 7: No?

1460
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 4: I didn't lose anybody. No, No, I have three on

1461
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 4: the bye. I think if Denver loses on Saturday, and

1462
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: the sad thing is, I'm probably going to be rooting

1463
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 4: for Buffalo.

1464
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 2: So shouldn't be. Yeah, I know, I think sometimes my

1465
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 2: brain works, you get confused on what's best for you. Yeah,

1466
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 2: you need to root the other way.

1467
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe if James Cook could show up help out

1468
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 4: a little bit, that'd be nice too.

1469
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look, your whole team's here. Parkerson catches a

1470
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 2: touchdown pass every game, and you have Jackson's with the

1471
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 2: jigba and you haven't lost anybody. So despite you being

1472
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: a last sudden day like go off like yeah, and

1473
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, who's favored here in this group?

1474
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: I haven't even looked at the nut. Well we will

1475
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: do that.

1476
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 4: Tomorrow, all right, right, GiB it, all right, I'm fifth

1477
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 4: at number four, number four, number four.

1478
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 2: It's the g Man.

1479
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 4: Oh g man with seventy five point one, two points. Now,

1480
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 4: he's got one guy on the by. He does have

1481
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 4: two players out, one of them.

1482
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: Quarterback and kicker. Quarterback's tough man. All right, seventy five

1483
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: point one yep, not so great. You get paid down fifty.

1484
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: That is a big hole, that is. But he's I mean,

1485
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 2: I need quarterback.

1486
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 3: And he needs Denver to go to the super Bowl.

1487
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he doesn't face people. You say this

1488
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: all the need to finish in the last. That's it,

1489
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: my dad. Everybody say this out West. In regard to Bears,

1490
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: you don't have to be faster than the Bear. You

1491
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 2: just gotta be faster than who you're with. That's right.

1492
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 2: It's every person for themselves. So just make sure you're

1493
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: not the slowest. That's right, so you could be heared.

1494
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: I still I would rather be gibing than g man.

1495
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: Right now, go ahea, All right? Up to number three,

1496
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:02,839
Speaker 2: number three, bo Bishop? What's that? Bo Bishop?

1497
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 4: Seventy eight point four to two is what a bo

1498
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 4: Bishop is?

1499
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 3: You're good unless the Rams get knocked out.

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01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 4: He had one guy, you had one on the by.

1501
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 2: You don't have anybody out? Rams would destroy me. Are

1502
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 2: you for the Bears, the team of your youth? No,

1503
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: it's got to be Rammitt Ramit's got to take care

1504
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: of it. I feel pretty good about New England winning

1505
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: and advancing on. Nice job out of Puka on that one. Yeah,

1506
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 2: he was number one overall and obviously delivered. Yeah, I'm okay,

1507
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm alright with this. I'm a little surprised Travian. I

1508
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: don't understand how they use travion. Is weird to me? Yeah,

1509
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: they strange, But I'm okay. Everybody's still playing.

1510
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 4: That takes us to number two, number two. It's between

1511
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 4: Jordan and Nathan Zegura, and it's Nathan Zigura at number two,

1512
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 4: Doctor Z with eighty five point one two. He's got

1513
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 4: one player out one who was on the bye and RJ.

1514
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 3: Harvey, Nico getting hurt as painful for but I feel.

1515
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 4: Pretty goods and concussion product called Barkley's out.

1516
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 3: Like, the problem is, I've got Josh Allen is playing

1517
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 3: against Harvey.

1518
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna be down another player at least there.

1519
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 3: And and MeVis is playing against Colston Loveland. So I'm

1520
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 3: down two.

1521
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna be out without two after this weekend, he'll

1522
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: be down three total, which is again, could be fine.

1523
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: You're my guy scored. Yeah, yeah, Allen was a monster,

1524
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 2: and that was That's one of those ones where you

1525
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 2: that's the gamble you took was can I get two

1526
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 2: games out of it? If I can get two, that's

1527
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: worth it. It almost might have been worth it just

1528
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 2: with one night's number out of a quarterback, So you'll

1529
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: take it. Colson Loveland was a nice pick that takes

1530
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: us to number one, number one grig. Yeah, but he's

1531
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 2: getting down. He's got three out.

1532
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 4: Oh, doctor j d Jas has already got three out.

1533
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 4: Now he might have enough buffer that I can't catch him.

1534
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 3: Well, we'll if lose next to his toast. So he's

1535
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 3: got no Kittle, no Dobbs, no Jacobs. Yeah, he's got

1536
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: oh jeez.

1537
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: So he needs Yeah you really need. Now, all this

1538
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 2: need to come down to is can give me catch

1539
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: up that comes?

1540
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: That's really what it is.

1541
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: Can I hopskip one guy because doctor j tech Stock nineties?

1542
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm in a good spot. You're in a

1543
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 3: good spot.

1544
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: I think you and I are. Gabriel is not in

1545
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: a great spot either. I don't think. I feel like

1546
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 2: you and I are going to be just fine. Yeah

1547
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 2: we're eating for free.

1548
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, man's like I have McCaffrey, like young Gabriel, I

1549
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 4: don't know you got you got a fifty point lead

1550
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 4: on Gibbe.

1551
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: But Gibby's got three guys who didn't play. So I

1552
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,560
Speaker 2: need I need a couple of shootouts. What do we So?

1553
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 2: What is our the average points scored in this? Let's

1554
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 2: say give me caffrey.

1555
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 6: McCaffrey is got to go off for Pedro next week

1556
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 6: against the Seahawks.

1557
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I believe. I believe that. That's very much.

1558
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 2: I think McCaffrey forty bomb is on the horizon. Yeah,

1559
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 2: you know, to catch touchdowns.

1560
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 6: I need DeVante Adams to remember that, like your your

1561
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 6: whole thing this season was catching touchdowns. Yeah, like that's

1562
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 6: that's what they used you for.

1563
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 2: You're gonna lose. I'm confident.

1564
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 6: Even if you know, I think I think that Niners

1565
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 6: Seahawks game could be a shootout. I'm confident on sharbon

1566
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 6: A because he's like the vulture. He's the samaj p

1567
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 6: Ryin of the Seattle Seahawks fair he just scores touchdowns.

1568
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 6: Kenneth Walker gets them down here.

1569
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 2: They to lose one of those two. It is true. Yeah,

1570
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: for sure, you're gonna be with four guys after this week. Yeah. Three,

1571
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 2: And I texted you guys.

1572
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 6: I texted you guys during the three the Jaguars and

1573
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 6: Bills game because Cam Little missed a.

1574
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 2: Fifty four the first half. If I was like, dude,

1575
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: what's your whole thing? That's the thing. Very useful. Put

1576
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: up Gibbe's team again if you can.

1577
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 3: James Cook did me no favors, So Dallas Buffalo is

1578
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 3: gonna be You're it's a big you. You kind of

1579
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 3: need I mean Denver Buffalo. You need Denver to win

1580
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 3: that game.

1581
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: Losing James Cook is that's a loss and obviously needs

1582
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith the rest of it, though, you could carry.

1583
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 2: You are the biggest Seahawks fan ever and then you

1584
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: need boy that won't go over with myke you could,

1585
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 2: in theory have I don't see any I'm gonna now

1586
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 2: that I'm looking at this, I almost see no scenario,

1587
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 2: Gibbey where you can catch g Man well, because you're

1588
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 2: gonna lose either your quarterback. I'm sorry, brother, You're gonna

1589
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 2: lose either your quarterback or your flex. You either gonna

1590
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 2: lose your quarterback and your flex or your running back.

1591
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 3: One of those are gony to expense this and potentially

1592
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 3: you could lose everybody except for game, you know, like

1593
01:19:59,439 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 3: you could.

1594
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 2: I mean if I could too. If the Rams are out,

1595
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 2: then I was Patriots go down, then I'm out, bye bye.

1596
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: But it might be enough and then I have all

1597
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 2: six of them in that might be in this weekend.

1598
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 2: That might be enough to not be last. Yeah, but

1599
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 2: I don't know about.

1600
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 3: This is not one of those situations where if you

1601
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 3: ain't first, your last.

1602
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 2: No last, last is all that matters. That is, and

1603
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 2: it's that's a long. Thirty points is a lot to

1604
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: make up. Even this is this is four passes.

1605
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 4: The Germans bomb Parl Harbor.

1606
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 3: This is four passes and one fail. That's the way

1607
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 3: this goes, that's these are the greats. There are four passes.

1608
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 2: There's you're a little kid, right, it was like thumbs upper,

1609
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: thumbs down, that's what you got. That's check mark, Yep.

1610
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 6: That's it.

1611
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: It's that simple. Yeah, all right, gonna be gonna be interesting. Yeah,

1612
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: the app so on the team and on the the

1613
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 2: average score of the So I didn't have all of

1614
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 2: my guys and a my kicker, but everybody else and

1615
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: you guys all had all your guys, so the average

1616
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: is around eighty. And I didn't have r. J. Harvey.

1617
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 2: Oh you didn't have r J Harvey. So yeah, so

1618
01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 2: you you and I you didn't have your kicker in mind,

1619
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 2: I didn't my flex. I'm sorry your flex. I didn't

1620
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 2: have my kicker. And and so we were in that

1621
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 2: or I was seventy eight, you were eighty five. So

1622
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: like if you have everybody, it's around eighty a week,

1623
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 2: So that would put give you around the one oh six.

1624
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 2: If he gets that, Yeah, so then it's really be

1625
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 2: g Man's what can g Man's depleted roster do the

1626
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 2: how can doctor j hang on doctors? Three guys? That's right,

1627
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 2: he's got three guys, has three guys left Stafford. He's

1628
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 2: the biggest enough to doctor j and I are the

1629
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,719
Speaker 2: biggest Rams fans on the planet. Yeah, like we really

1630
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 2: need the Rams to beat the Bears. Yeah, that's that's

1631
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 2: really important. Rammit Daily. Yeah, Puka and Stafford and don't

1632
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 2: I have Kyraen Williams still you do? Yeah? So like

1633
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 2: that's that's the whole operation I got Colby Parkinson, just

1634
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 2: got to get the Rammits going. All right, very good stuff.

1635
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,519
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1636
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,880
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01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: man studio you love a light hopefully no you will?

1644
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 2: You designed this studio.

1645
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 4: I know, as long as the budget doesn't start slashing things.

1646
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. Look at all that beautiful outdoor light

1647
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: look at a Sacodbye, it's gone gone. I'm gonna be

1648
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 2: in a that's tough one.

1649
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 4: Like we're gonna be able to walk out onto the

1650
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 4: field like stretch. Maybe have a little catch.

1651
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 2: Oh, that'll be fun, get a catch in.

1652
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, is not happy with anything these days.

1653
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 2: He'll be all right, he'll be fine. We'll come around,

1654
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 2: all right.

1655
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 4: It's higher lower factor. Fiction Hybrid is what the g

1656
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 4: Man put together from the Ringer, ranking all head coaching

1657
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 4: candidates for this cycle. His question to all of us,

1658
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 4: what nine guys off of this list or maybe not

1659
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 4: on this list do you think you have the best

1660
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 4: shot at being a head coach? And maybe where do

1661
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 4: you see them as the best fit?

1662
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 2: Nine guys? You want me to give it? Nine out

1663
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: of the that are on this list, they have Kingsbury five.

1664
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 4: That's right, by the way, Tomlin's not on this list

1665
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:54,799
Speaker 4: because this came out late. Yes, assuming you could add Tomlin.

1666
01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 4: So there's thirty three. Uh yeah, some impressive games.

1667
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.

1668
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 4: While you guys are working on it, all right, I'll

1669
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 4: give you your top ten number one on their list,

1670
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 4: John Harbaught number two, Kevin Stefanski number three, Robert Salah

1671
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 4: number four, Mike McCarthy number five, Cliff Kingsbury number six,

1672
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 4: Joe Brady the Bill's OC. Number seven, Steve Spagnolo, Chiefs

1673
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 4: Defensive Coordinator, number eight, Jesse Mentor, the Chargers DC number nine,

1674
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,959
Speaker 4: Todd Monkin the Ravens OC. And number ten is Brian Flores.

1675
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 4: The Vikings d C. At number thirty two on this

1676
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 4: list was one Bill Belichick.

1677
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: Nope, no, thank you. All right? Are we having Tomlin

1678
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: on our list or not? We can?

1679
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 4: You can add Tomlin to your list, all right.

1680
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave him off because I don't think he

1681
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: wants to coach. Fine, so I'm gonna leave him off.

1682
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 2: All right, I'm ready. All right, you want nine who

1683
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 2: think are going to land most likely to land spots?

1684
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: I got nine, and then I got I got nine,

1685
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: and then I got I just I followed the rules.

1686
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 2: I want a straight nine. I got you five like bonus,

1687
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. I cut it to nine. I have

1688
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 2: my nine. Yeah, and you want to start at nine

1689
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: or because they're not ranked, they're not.

1690
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not ranking them necessarily, so and I can

1691
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 4: tell you. I'll tell the fine folks listening where they

1692
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 4: ended up on this list.

1693
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess I'll just start with the guy lowest

1694
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 2: on my list, who I think is probably going to

1695
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: get a job. I just think there's too much smoke

1696
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: for Grant Yeddinsky. Yep, I had him. I think he's

1697
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: going to land somewhere.

1698
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 4: Well, he's number twenty eight on the list.

1699
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 2: I have him as well. Who is your lowest ranked,

1700
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 2: Sir Yudinsky? Okay? Who is your next lowest ranked? Clint Kubiak? Okay,

1701
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 2: I see Kubiak number fifteen. By the way, I have Koby.

1702
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 2: I do have Kubiak on my list as well as

1703
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 2: one I think is going to get hired. But I

1704
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 2: do have one other guy lower who hasn't interviewed much left.

1705
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: I just wonder if Mike Lafleur gets in a room.

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Speaker 3: He's got a couple, he's got a couple of interviews.

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01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 3: Does he have a couple of tennessee Vegas?

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01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 2: Michael? Mike? What did I say, Matt, No, no, no,

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01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 2: you I was just clarifying, which yes, Mike, Yeah, Mike, Mike,

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01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 2: I have my he has a check for me. Is like,

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01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: that's a bonus. He's a bonus guy.

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01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 3: And I had Cooby Shieldhouse as a bonus guy. I

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01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 3: got the Flora's a bonus guy. I got Vance Joseph

1714
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 3: as a bonus guy. Weave Monk and Flora's bonus bonus bonus.

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01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 4: It just continues to amaze, Like the whole Kooby acting

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01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 4: like I don't there's just not there doesn't seem to

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01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 4: be a lot of buzz with his name.

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01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 2: I just think it's because there's still plenty I think there.

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01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 2: I just think because they were off they had the bye.

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01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 3: There was a lot of buzz around his name from

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01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 3: like league insiders.

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01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 2: I think he's got a heck of a shot. Kay,

1723
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 2: all right, My next one would be Jeff Hafley. Yep,

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01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 2: he's on mine as well.

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01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 7: He is.

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01:26:56,439 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: He is personality wise and a plus. The only thing

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01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 2: that's and I think he is going to get a

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01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 2: job in this thing. The only thing that's a little

1729
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: interesting about him is when you think of Green Bay

1730
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 2: and like without Micah Parsons, like, I don't ever think

1731
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 2: about like their defense as being lights out, you know.

1732
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: But I know he's a leader of men, and I

1733
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 2: know that he's someone who communicates very very effectively. So

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01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: I have him online as well. Okay, next up on

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01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: mine is Mike McDaniel. I think Mike is clearly going

1736
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 2: to coach in this cycle somewhere. Yep, same Zigarl, what

1737
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 2: do you got name? McDaniel is my next one as well, Okay.

1738
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 3: And I said, you know, I think Weaver is an

1739
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 3: interesting one. I think baltimoreould be a possibility for him.

1740
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 3: I think Vance Joseph's an interesting one. Flores, I think

1741
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 3: what I Flores did when he left Miami. I think

1742
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 3: that that still has give owners, gives owners pause.

1743
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have him as one of my nine. Yeah,

1744
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 2: have Flora.

1745
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 3: And I think moncn would be Moncin would be great.

1746
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what that's gonna I turn out.

1747
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 2: I just like that audio that he had where he

1748
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 2: was where he took like ownership for the Lamar thing.

1749
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I think he'd be a great coach yep.

1750
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: But it just feels like it's there's something not in

1751
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 2: the mix there because he interviewed for an OC job

1752
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 2: in Tampa all places with Bake. Yeah, so the real

1753
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 2: truth on all.

1754
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:29,919
Speaker 4: That mcdets McDaniel is eleventh on their list. Halfley was fourteenth,

1755
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 4: Kubiak fifteenth, Michael Lafloor twenty six. You didn't, Ski was

1756
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 4: twenty eight? That's five right there?

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01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: Yep? Who else do you got? I got Jesse Minner next. Yep,

1758
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 2: on my list number eight. That's five, isn't it. Uh,

1759
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 2: that's six for me. That's the sixth. Ski. Did you

1760
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 2: have michaela Floor? Yeah?

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01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael, all right, that's why I have five so far? Okay, Yeah,

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01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 3: I have Mentor as well. All right, Sigura, who do

1763
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 3: you have next?

1764
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 2: I don't know both, I don't know.

1765
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if Joe Brady or McCarthy one of

1766
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 3: them would be in for me and one would be

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01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 3: out for me, And I don't know who is who

1768
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 3: is witch?

1769
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 2: So I didn't mark either one of these guys for

1770
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: this cycle. But McCarthy wouldn't surprise me. McCarthy would not

1771
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 2: surprise me. So my my next, my others are all

1772
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 2: because I've done six already, because I've got my six.

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01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: My six so far are Mintor, McDaniel, Hafley, Kubiak, Lafleur, Yudinsky. Yes, yeah,

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01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 2: those are my seven.

1775
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 3: So then we have the same top three because I

1776
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 3: have Salah, Sefanski and Harbaugh all getting jobs.

1777
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. The question. One of these three I'm most curious

1778
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 2: about is Bob Salah. Does he want one? Does he

1779
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 2: want one or does he want the right one? Like

1780
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 2: if he got the chance to go be the coach

1781
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 2: of the Atlanta Falcons like or Baltimore. Yeah, if Robert

1782
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 2: sala If like Baltimore, probably piques your interest. If you're

1783
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 2: Robert Salah, Yep, but he's not going back to what

1784
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 2: he had in New York. I thought he was done dirty. Yep,

1785
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 2: really dirty. Yes, I liked him. We've talked about that.

1786
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 2: I don't know how many.

1787
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 3: I think he's a hell of a coach. I think

1788
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 3: people follow him. I think that was a real miss

1789
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 3: for the Jets. I think it got blown up by

1790
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 3: yeah right, bless you, bless you.

1791
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,560
Speaker 2: But like he was, he was done dirty, and I

1792
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 2: I think, like to me with like, I look at

1793
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 2: the Ravens spot for him, Yeah, that might be exactly

1794
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 2: what they the doctor order for them. And if he

1795
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 2: could bring like one of one of those guys along

1796
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 2: with him as the O C. Yeah, now you're talking.

1797
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 2: Now you're cooking with gas.

1798
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 4: By the way, Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame, I thought

1799
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 4: he's already said it's Chefter tweeting it again.

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01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like why when somebody says we gave them a

1801
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 2: contract extension, they're locked in. I'm committed. Like that's it.

1802
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 3: We don't have to keep updating. He didn't need to

1803
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 3: be any more than that.

1804
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 4: No, by the way, the one and Peter Schreger had

1805
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 4: a good tweet about it last. Right, with all these

1806
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 4: candidates we sure met Burke shouldn't get some more consideration

1807
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 4: the Texans DC, No.

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01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 3: Way, you've better in the Siciliano brought him up. Yeah,

1809
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 3: maybe he should, Maybe he should pretty simil never steel

1810
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 3: House isn't even on this list. No, clearly he's getting looks.

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01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 2: How do they have Kingsbury five? Who's putting this list together?

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01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 2: It's Kingsbury five, Dante Lee, Stephen Dante Lee, Stephen Ruiz.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back tomorrow with more fun. Enjoy your

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