WEBVTT - Episode 466 | .IDK. 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.080 Nollian. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.760 All right, Roy, we are back today. We are joined 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:42.120 by a very special, very talented guest. I got a 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:43.559 beef to pick with you, but I'm gonna pick that 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.400 beef with you after. I guess we shouldn't argue, we 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.199 shouldn't fight in front of company. But you should have. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.040 You should have sent me this project the day the 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:56.360 night it dropped, I talked about it. But you know 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.959 I have ADHD, so you're supposed to like, no, no, 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.440 stop what you're doing and play this project. Today we 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.479 were joined by another d m V. We just talking 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:06.880 about the DMV, yes, and it being like you just 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.440 a hub for extreme talent a d m V. I'm 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.560 gonna say he's a legend. I d K is in 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.320 the building. Ladies, Well, there's no ladies and gentlemen. Yes, 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.600 we never have ladies in the building. How you feeling man? 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.520 We never have podcast? What podcast world is? We have 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.240 ladies in the building, like you got you gotta fix that? 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.360 Well we got we have some ladies sometimes coming in 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.720 next time. Yeah, bring some ladies. 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:33.840 How you feeling, man, I'm good, I'm good. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.480 So E t d S right. But before we get there, 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.600 because I was reading up on you obviously been following 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:45.160 you for a while, but listening to this project et 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:49.360 ds uh even the Devil Smiles available now DSPs. If 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.720 you haven't heard this, it's one of the best projects 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.480 that you're probably going to hear in the last ten 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:57.880 to fifteen years. Without a doubt. I'm getting right to it. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.720 How the hell did you get a DMX feature? 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:05.600 That's easy, I'll be I don't mean getting the features easy. 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:10.160 Answering the question, Okay, yeah, yeah, I did a song 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.720 for him before he passed. It's actually me and Denzel 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:19.280 Curry and uh uh, he's done. We did cleared prayers 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.960 for the projects prior, so it was like, you know, 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.760 by the time he, you know, left us, I had 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.360 a beat well when he left us. A little after that, 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.399 a couple of years after that, I had this beat 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.400 from ke Trinada and I heard it and it was 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.320 a beat I originally passed on. And then I heard 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.120 that ship and I was just like, yo, it sounds 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.360 like some Rough Riders type shit, but like with a 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.920 little bit of a different swing. And the way I 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:48.480 seen him DJ it made me understand the beat more 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:52.200 than before I had actually seen him DJ. So, so 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.440 I like he just got this thing where he'll play 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.880 something like that and it'll be ladies dancing to it and. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:57.560 All this stuff. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.280 And once I saw that vision, I was like, all right, 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.560 this beat is like a little different than what I 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.880 originally thought. And I was like, man, I wonder what 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.800 happened to them vocals and what they do with that song. 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.400 So I hit Pat from his team and Pat was like, yo, 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:12.240 I still got it. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.079 You know, we don't know what we want to do with. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.919 It, and I asked for his blessing to try it 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.480 on the song. Once we tried it and we all 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:24.200 loved it, it was like, oh, let's, you know, go 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:29.480 through the proper channels, the family, fiance, everybody, to fan kids. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.560 To clear it. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.120 I got on a call with everybody, let them know 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.640 my intentions for it, and they gave me the blessing. 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:41.760 So it's the first actually approved or a state approved 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:43.600 feature that came out since his passive. 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.880 That's why I love with that question, because I mean 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.280 getting DMX feature while he was still with us was tough. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.040 How'd you originally connect with them? 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.720 I chased him down myself myself was to clear this thing. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:56.680 That's a brave thing to do. 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:57.800 Yeah, yeah, you know. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.000 I really was like, yo, all right, he's performing it 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.840 this joint because I always like never left that mentality 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.440 of bro I got to make shit happen. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:07.839 Regardless of wherever I was at. 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.120 I don't mind like rolling up my sleeves and just 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.560 hitting people and staying on top of certain shit. Some 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.200 people have like an ego about it, but I look 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:18.640 at it like how I looked at it when I 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.760 first started rapping. I went to a PG when I 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.440 got out of prison. I went to PG Community College 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.400 to just try to do like computer science or some shit, 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.240 and I would be like rapping. I'd be in a 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:35.000 cafeteria looking crazy by myself, just like writing and stuff 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.440 like that. And I knew that I looked crazy, but 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.800 I always knew that at the end of the day, 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.040 those same people that thought I was crazy gonna see 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:43.599 me where I'm going to be at, and then it's 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.599 not going to be crazy no more make sense? Right, 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.440 So I have to saying I wrote this one I 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:51.320 was locked up. Fantasy without reality is insanity. So I've 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.440 always been that way. So me like I was in 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.839 a place where I didn't necessarily need to chase them 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.839 down necessarily but I was with all that because whenever 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:02.720 I I believe it makes sense to do something, then 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.599 I'm cool to do all that stuff. If it don't 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.520 make sense, I probably feel weird. But if I think 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.840 it makes sense, and I'm like, yo, what I have 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.920 of you on this thing is great. I just want 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.800 your blessing. And they brought me backstage and he's like. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.119 I talked to him and he's like, it's good. Whatever 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.359 you need, it's good. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.000 How do you pitch a DMX? 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.039 And I just what I was doing, and it was, 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.400 you know, I had to do with religion and my 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.280 fight with God and and whether he's real or not 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.560 and all these things, and I told him to pitch. 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.960 He was like, it's good. Whatever you need, it's good, 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:37.720 you know what I mean. So then it was good. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.680 Yeah, because I mean, your entire desography, you have some 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.160 of the most impressive features you go through your whole you. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:49.360 Two though, you two, I just be buying your feature. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.680 Because you've never struck me as someone that's that tries 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.920 to be in the mix so much. So that's where 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.960 or even I guess a networker right right way, So 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.520 how do you get these types of features? 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.800 I mean they're all different, but the real real answer 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:15.200 is audacity. I just asked, I asked, I hit Jay 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.240 like trying to go on a DM and see a 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:21.440 few responds. I'm just like that, and uh, I think 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.120 I move with man, I don't. I don't mean to 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.839 come like off like this, but this is actually true. 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.040 It's like a divine energy that I move with that's 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.359 really connected in a way where I think things happen. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:34.480 I'm working on something. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.080 I can't speak on it just yet, but when everyone 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.240 hears that I'm doing this, I think. 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:41.720 People gonna be there. 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.159 Gonna be some people that's maybe mad, but most people 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.599 are going to be like, wow, that's crazy that you're 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.080 doing that. And it's because of the divine energy and 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.479 the connection that I have. I really respect like people 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:57.720 who especially when someone has passed away and I have 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.920 a record that I want to do, I speak to 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.800 you know, like, and I thank them for allowing me 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.960 the opportunity to even do this when they're not here, 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.080 and the past just starts to clear. 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.040 Yeah, and I'm just being real like, and so that's 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:11.600 what it is. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:16.080 Anything I do, I always make sure that in my mind, this, this, 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.720 this and this makes sense because of this, this and this, 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.679 and if it don't add up, I don't hit niggas. 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.960 Bro. Yeah, if I'm calling you, it makes sense. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.480 I love that you just add to d m J. Electronica. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.400 I had to fly to the mountains of Mexico, hike 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.840 up the side of a mountains a pyramid to get 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:32.280 my feature. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.520 I'm not I'm not. 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:37.720 You're not joking. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:38.720 I'm not joking at all. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.520 I mean that's actually sicker than my situation. I'd rather 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:42.880 be you. 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:51.920 Once Mexico literally, yeah, man, Yeah it was jail leg 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:56.160 is a He's an interesting guy. Yeah yeahful one of 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.360 my favorite people ever. But you just have to be 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:06.440 prepared for anything. Trust when moving around with him, ar fifteen. 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.920 That to be putting malls faced by the federalities for 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:09.560 me to get those. 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.520 To Mexico to get them, and we were getting pulled 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.680 wild times, great times. But Jay is he's just one 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.280 of those people, man, the definition of free. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:19.640 Yeah. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.480 Yeah, he's the definition of somebody that is free, somebody 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.600 that does what they want to do, lives how they 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.480 want to live. It's admirable, but it is you know, 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.120 when you have when you when you when you meet 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.120 people like that, you realize like, oh yeah, like I'm 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.600 not living like this person. He's living waking up and 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.840 doing whatever he whatever the fuck he wants to do. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.120 Did you feel the same way with Doom, because I 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:44.360 know you guys have worked before. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.360 It's a feature on the album, like yeah, yeah, Doom. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:49.280 That one's really special. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:49.560 Man. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.000 When I say I moved with like divine energy and 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.120 a certain connection. This is where I think it might 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.240 it might make the most sense with Doom. He the 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:05.800 future for me a while back, and Dell the funky 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.400 Hombo safety and got on the song. So I had 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.480 to cut his verse down a little bit. I didn't 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.200 have to, but I felt like it was necessary for 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.000 the song. So because he did a pretty long verse, 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.840 and then I grabbed that and I held on to it, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.920 not thinking I'll ever use it for anything. Then when 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.200 Red came up, I asked for his blessing to use 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.760 a piece of it. I wasn't going to actually make 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.199 it a feature. It was just oh, that's Doomed, you 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:36.040 know what I mean. And then he passed away. And 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.680 then when he passed away, I was still waiting for 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.880 Jay to get me that verse and he dm me and. 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.760 Is like, nah, I got to make sure this happens. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:44.559 You know what I'm saying. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.160 He's like, I got you, and then he texted he 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.920 DM me again and he was like touchdown, and then 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.640 he sent me the train and that's how that happened. 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.600 And then I still had more left though, and by 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.560 the time I started making this product, I had to 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.880 go deep within myself and go back to places that 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.000 I didn't want to go back to, which was being incarcerated, 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.040 behind bars, all of that shit. And then once I 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:14.600 did that, I started writing the records and then I 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:15.440 conductor sent. 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:15.920 Me this beat. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.400 I took what he had, I chopped it and made 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.000 the verse on that beat is me chopping his beat, 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.240 and then the hook is the beat he basically sent me. 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:30.800 So then I thought about him, like, yo, I'm wondering 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.400 if those doom vocals will fit here, and it happened 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.199 to be like the X things similar bpms, and then 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.560 I was like, yo, he's talking about being locked up. 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.960 The irony of him talking about being locked up, and 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.120 that happens to be the piece that I left, and 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.760 I'm talking about being locked up. The whole time, I 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.960 was like, this gotta happen. So that's what I'm saying, like, 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.760 I didn't plan that that happened. I put it together, 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.319 I penned. I went to my experience of being behind 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.160 bars at that time, you know, trying K two for 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:07.520 the first time, all that shit, and I wanted to 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.720 put you in my shoes for that moment, and that's 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.079 what That's what came out. So and then obviously the 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.120 same thing sent it to the powers that be, it 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.679 got approved. It wasn't going to be a feature at first, 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:24.960 but then something they messed up, something on accident on 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.880 the vinyl, and my fans were zooming. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.040 In on the you know what I'm saying. When I 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:30.640 put out the pre sale, and. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:32.319 It was like Doom, Doom, So I tried to hurry 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.360 up and change it, and then I changed it, but 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:36.640 then people just kind of was. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:41.679 Like, nah, do take it off? 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:44.800 So I never when I announced it, I ain't never 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.840 said anything about dooming, and people was mad. It was like, man, 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.560 how disrespectful is it to not list doom as a 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:52.640 feature on the project. But I wasn't trying to. I 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.839 wanted it to be a surprise. And also because it 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.720 wasn't a full verse, it was just on the hook. 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.960 I didn't want to gas it, so people okay, so 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.800 that's what happened. And then I just was like, well, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.520 I guess we just got to put it as a feature. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.640 Then yeah, you know, that's just what ended up happening 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:09.080 with them. 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:14.840 Speaking of spiritual connections and you being locked up? What 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.600 did you see on the first inhale of K two? 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.079 I saw some weird shit. Okay, this is walk me 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.720 through the day. What is it my birthday? And you 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.880 know this is when K two was new and ship, 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.120 so nobody really understood how people knew people would trip 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.840 off of it, don't get it twisted, yes, but most 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.800 people didn't really know that all the way how bad. 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:39.079 It could be. 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:44.280 So you know, it was my birthday and my boy 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.480 D was just like, yeah, man, I got this Da 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.960 da da. And then you know, we smoked it, and 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.560 you gotta, you know, you smoke it slow so that 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.720 the high could last, because sometimes the high is really quick. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.439 Sometimes you don't know what how you're gonna get. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.960 Actually that's the thing that's not consistance, so you don't 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.080 know what it's going through to you. And I smoked 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:07.040 it and I just started like basically everybody in prison 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:11.400 that I saw looked like themselves, but an animal version 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:16.600 of them themselves, Like if you look like kind of 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:21.040 like camel to me in that moment, you look like 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.800 it was a you know what I'm saying. It was 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:25.880 like but it was it was dark though. It was 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.280 like scary, like it wasn't funny. It was like yo. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.040 And then you know, you know, like you you're looking 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.880 around like, nigga, I'm locked up right now, nigga, like 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.040 you're starting the reality starting to really kick in. I 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:43.320 know when I'm getting out, I'm like, it's my birthday 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.520 and ship, nigga, I'm looking at this like you know, 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.920 we had they got me like these little doughnuts and 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.600 all this ship my birthday and. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.440 I'm like, I don't want to eat none of this ship. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.000 This ship, Like I try to eat, it tastes nasty, 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.120 Like you know, I just need some milk. I'm gonna 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.319 lay on my bunk, nigga, and let this ship go away. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.560 And I remember hearing this beat in my head. I 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.520 still remember the beat to this day. I kind of 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.480 gotta make that. I got to make that shit and 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.040 it was just just dark ass, weird ass beat. But 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.440 if I make that beat there's nothing in music that 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.920 sounds like this shit actually, and that literally was my 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.559 experience doing it. I did it a couple of times, 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.520 though it wasn't like the only time I did. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.000 It, so you went back for another case. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.720 I think I did it before that, and then that 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:25.840 was my birthday time. 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.480 So yeah, but that I think I tried it. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.160 I don't remember exactly how much I tried, but I'll 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:32.760 tell you this, when I got out, I didn't. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:33.400 Smoke weed no more. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.280 I couldn't smoke weed no more after that shit. Like 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.840 every time I tried it, I would get this weird 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.080 paranoid high that I didn't like, so I just stopped smoking. 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.720 Yeah, I think I accidentally smoke K two once accidentally. 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:51.360 It was like friend twenty ten and like the synthetic. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.840 Weed, that's when I did. I was around that time and. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:55.920 It was synthetic weed. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.440 But part of me feels like in twenty ten that 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.360 was K two and we just didn't really know it 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.440 was to that's K two, that's what is. There was 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.280 a name I forgot the exact name. Spicy. 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:14.200 Definitely smoke king too, but no, it definitely makes you trip. 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.040 So the reason why we would do it is because 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.800 it was just like, oh yeah, it was like, you 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.320 can't it doesn't show up on your pist test, so 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.880 that's why we're smoking. I think I even smoked it 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:27.520 a little bit when I got out because it didn't 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.480 show up on my pits test. But honestly, it was 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.280 one of them things where I was like, I realized 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:33.960 my weed. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.400 I was starting to like, like be not what I remember. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.800 I can immediately tell when drugs are not for me 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.680 because I don't like them or because I may like 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:47.120 it too much. Right, Like shrooms I don't do very often, 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.760 but I've done them multiple times and is cool, I think, 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.000 especially micro does and this and that. But like I 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.400 tried coke, I was like, nah, I'm cool because I 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.000 may end up liking that ship. So I left that alone. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.160 But that K two ship when that one time I 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.160 smoked it in that living room, I never wanted to 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.640 go near anything synthetic for the rest of my Yeah, no, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.360 fat it like nothing about it was cool. It wasn't fun, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.640 it wasn't a story we could talk like later. It 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:17.160 was just like, nah, none of that shit is cool. Man, 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.920 Like I mean, to each his own, but that ain't 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:21.960 my style. I can't even dream. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.720 I never I never did shrooms. I had shroom tea before. Okay, yeah, 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.120 I just was never like I never like outside of weed. 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.360 I was never really like trying because I'm scared to 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.440 have like a trip and never come back right right, 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.120 That's like my biggest feel like I'm gonna turn into 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.560 a whole different person and I'm not gonna be able 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.800 to snap by like everything is different now. So let's 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.880 talk about the beginning of aud K Originally from the UK. Yeah, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.080 born London, born London. How at what age did you 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:52.280 come to America? Two years old? Oh so yeah, yeah 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.760 I'm American. You're America more than anything. But are you 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.520 still tapped in with the London sound like London rap? 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.680 Yeah for sure. I got like Goldie on my project. 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:02.960 I still like it's Emmy, you know what I'm saying, 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:07.120 like for show. But but I'm mostly just a DMV, 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.159 like you know what I mean. That's mainly what I 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.000 am in DC, Maryland, Virginia. For those of you who don't. 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.560 Know now the DMV because me and Rory been talking 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.560 about it. What is it about the DMV that just 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:23.679 keeps creating such unique, such talented artists like throughout the 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.440 years in hip hop and R and B like this, 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.359 This is something about the DMB. Is it just the 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.439 culture of the DMV. Is it the close proximity and 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.560 so many different people are able to connect with each other? 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:35.720 Like? 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.920 What is it about the DMV that just keeps giving 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.200 us like such talented artists. 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:46.359 I think that we have some of the highest concentration 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:51.920 of pure creativity. Now, creativity meets opportunity to expand creativity 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.240 because you know, when you look at LA and you 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.800 look at New York, is easier to expand your creativity 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.880 to an audience because they have the industry there. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.600 We just got the raw creativity. 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.160 So you know when when you look at something that's 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.800 unique as go go and then you look at how 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.000 people have adopted certain cultural things. This is like a 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:15.520 big African community there. 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:16.960 There's a big Hispanic. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:22.120 Community there, obviously Black community, uh, and all of these things. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.320 You know, when you kind of put that together and 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.280 we're all close nearby each other, I think it creates 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.080 what I like to call a color that doesn't exist, 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:35.520 something new, something unique, And even in the way we 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.440 dressing and all of that stuff, you know, we made 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:39.760 new balances popular. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:40.400 You know what I'm saying. 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.360 When when my dad was living in Baltimore in PG County. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.800 Yeah, I even got honest, you know what I mean. 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.800 You from New York, Yeah, yeas be trying to claim 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:49.719 the new balance. 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:52.840 Jim Jones tried, which was kind of funded. That's Jim Jones. 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:53.320 He's going to fight. 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.520 He's our soldier, boy. He was the first. But no, 0:18:57.600 --> 0:18:59.879 I always because I was wearing new balances. And I'm 0:18:59.920 --> 0:19:02.359 not saying this as a stat but when they weren't 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.080 popular up here and used to get kind of like 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:05.840 new balances. 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.760 I'm in Maryland, that's all they were. 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.159 We wore new balances in the early nineties. 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.919 Though in New York, we wore new balances in the eighties. 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.040 And I'm sure I did, but I remember, I remember 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.560 like the nineties, like new balances were a thing. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.399 And when I was born in eighties, but I remember 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:23.639 seeing pictures of the eighties. 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.800 I definitely listen. I'm not, but I do know that 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:31.359 new balances was definitely something that New Yorkers wore, like 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.280 early in the nineties and probably before that. But I'm 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.680 just speaking for me and my friends. We definitely started 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.120 wearing new balance in the early nineties. 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.880 But up here, like when my dad moved to Maryland 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.520 was like oh, two three fourths somewhere in that time, 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.639 and nobody was wearing new balances up here. Like when 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:49.000 I went down there, it was four and I was like, oh, 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:50.800 new balances and they're comfortable as fuck. 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:54.040 Definitely, but yeah. 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.879