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Speaker 1: Nollian.

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Speaker 2: All right, Roy, we are back today. We are joined

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Speaker 2: by a very special, very talented guest. I got a

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Speaker 2: beef to pick with you, but I'm gonna pick that

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Speaker 2: beef with you after. I guess we shouldn't argue, we

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Speaker 2: shouldn't fight in front of company. But you should have.

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Speaker 2: You should have sent me this project the day the

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Speaker 2: night it dropped, I talked about it. But you know

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Speaker 2: I have ADHD, so you're supposed to like, no, no,

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Speaker 2: stop what you're doing and play this project. Today we

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Speaker 2: were joined by another d m V. We just talking

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Speaker 2: about the DMV, yes, and it being like you just

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Speaker 2: a hub for extreme talent a d m V. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say he's a legend. I d K is in

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Speaker 2: the building. Ladies, Well, there's no ladies and gentlemen. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we never have ladies in the building. How you feeling man?

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Speaker 2: We never have podcast? What podcast world is? We have

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Speaker 2: ladies in the building, like you got you gotta fix that?

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Speaker 2: Well we got we have some ladies sometimes coming in

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Speaker 2: next time. Yeah, bring some ladies.

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Speaker 1: How you feeling, man, I'm good, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: So E t d S right. But before we get there,

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Speaker 2: because I was reading up on you obviously been following

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Speaker 2: you for a while, but listening to this project et

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Speaker 2: ds uh even the Devil Smiles available now DSPs. If

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Speaker 2: you haven't heard this, it's one of the best projects

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Speaker 2: that you're probably going to hear in the last ten

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Speaker 2: to fifteen years. Without a doubt. I'm getting right to it.

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Speaker 2: How the hell did you get a DMX feature?

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Speaker 3: That's easy, I'll be I don't mean getting the features easy.

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Speaker 3: Answering the question, Okay, yeah, yeah, I did a song

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Speaker 3: for him before he passed. It's actually me and Denzel

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Speaker 3: Curry and uh uh, he's done. We did cleared prayers

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Speaker 3: for the projects prior, so it was like, you know,

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Speaker 3: by the time he, you know, left us, I had

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Speaker 3: a beat well when he left us. A little after that,

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Speaker 3: a couple of years after that, I had this beat

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Speaker 3: from ke Trinada and I heard it and it was

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Speaker 3: a beat I originally passed on. And then I heard

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Speaker 3: that ship and I was just like, yo, it sounds

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Speaker 3: like some Rough Riders type shit, but like with a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a different swing. And the way I

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Speaker 3: seen him DJ it made me understand the beat more

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Speaker 3: than before I had actually seen him DJ. So, so

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Speaker 3: I like he just got this thing where he'll play

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Speaker 3: something like that and it'll be ladies dancing to it and.

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Speaker 1: All this stuff.

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Speaker 3: And once I saw that vision, I was like, all right,

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Speaker 3: this beat is like a little different than what I

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Speaker 3: originally thought. And I was like, man, I wonder what

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Speaker 3: happened to them vocals and what they do with that song.

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Speaker 3: So I hit Pat from his team and Pat was like, yo,

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Speaker 3: I still got it.

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't know what we want to do with.

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Speaker 3: It, and I asked for his blessing to try it

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Speaker 3: on the song. Once we tried it and we all

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Speaker 3: loved it, it was like, oh, let's, you know, go

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Speaker 3: through the proper channels, the family, fiance, everybody, to fan kids.

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Speaker 1: To clear it.

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Speaker 3: I got on a call with everybody, let them know

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Speaker 3: my intentions for it, and they gave me the blessing.

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Speaker 3: So it's the first actually approved or a state approved

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Speaker 2: That's why I love with that question, because I mean

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Speaker 2: getting DMX feature while he was still with us was tough.

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Speaker 4: How'd you originally connect with them?

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Speaker 3: I chased him down myself myself was to clear this thing.

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Speaker 2: That's a brave thing to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: I really was like, yo, all right, he's performing it

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Speaker 3: this joint because I always like never left that mentality

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Speaker 3: of bro I got to make shit happen.

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Speaker 1: Regardless of wherever I was at.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind like rolling up my sleeves and just

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Speaker 3: hitting people and staying on top of certain shit. Some

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Speaker 3: people have like an ego about it, but I look

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Speaker 3: at it like how I looked at it when I

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Speaker 3: first started rapping. I went to a PG when I

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Speaker 3: me where I'm going to be at, and then it's

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Speaker 3: not going to be crazy no more make sense? Right,

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Speaker 3: So I have to saying I wrote this one I

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Speaker 3: was locked up. Fantasy without reality is insanity. So I've

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Speaker 3: I I believe it makes sense to do something, then

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Speaker 3: I'm cool to do all that stuff. If it don't

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Speaker 3: make sense, I probably feel weird. But if I think

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Speaker 3: it makes sense, and I'm like, yo, what I have

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Speaker 3: of you on this thing is great. I just want

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Speaker 3: your blessing. And they brought me backstage and he's like.

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Speaker 3: I talked to him and he's like, it's good. Whatever

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Speaker 3: you need, it's good.

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Speaker 4: How do you pitch a DMX?

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Speaker 3: And I just what I was doing, and it was,

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Speaker 3: you know, I had to do with religion and my

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Speaker 3: fight with God and and whether he's real or not

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Speaker 3: and all these things, and I told him to pitch.

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Speaker 1: He was like, it's good. Whatever you need, it's good,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So then it was good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I mean, your entire desography, you have some

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Speaker 5: of the most impressive features you go through your whole you.

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Speaker 1: Two though, you two, I just be buying your feature.

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Speaker 5: Because you've never struck me as someone that's that tries

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Speaker 5: to be in the mix so much. So that's where

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Speaker 5: or even I guess a networker right right way, So

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Speaker 5: how do you get these types of features?

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Speaker 3: I mean they're all different, but the real real answer

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Speaker 3: is audacity. I just asked, I asked, I hit Jay

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Speaker 3: few responds. I'm just like that, and uh, I think

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Speaker 3: I move with man, I don't. I don't mean to

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Speaker 3: It's like a divine energy that I move with that's

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Speaker 3: really connected in a way where I think things happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm working on something.

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Speaker 3: I can't speak on it just yet, but when everyone

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Speaker 3: hears that I'm doing this, I think.

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Speaker 1: People gonna be there.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be some people that's maybe mad, but most people

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Speaker 3: doing that. And it's because of the divine energy and

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Speaker 3: the connection that I have. I really respect like people

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Speaker 3: and the past just starts to clear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm just being real like, and so that's

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Speaker 3: Anything I do, I always make sure that in my mind, this, this,

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Speaker 3: this and this makes sense because of this, this and this,

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Speaker 3: and if it don't add up, I don't hit niggas.

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Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah, if I'm calling you, it makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I love that you just add to d m J. Electronica.

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Speaker 5: I had to fly to the mountains of Mexico, hike

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Speaker 5: up the side of a mountains a pyramid to get

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Speaker 5: my feature.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not.

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Speaker 1: You're not joking.

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Speaker 2: I'm not joking at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's actually sicker than my situation. I'd rather

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Speaker 2: Once Mexico literally, yeah, man, Yeah it was jail leg

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Speaker 2: is a He's an interesting guy. Yeah yeahful one of

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Speaker 2: prepared for anything. Trust when moving around with him, ar fifteen.

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Speaker 5: That to be putting malls faced by the federalities for

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Speaker 5: me to get those.

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Speaker 2: To Mexico to get them, and we were getting pulled

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Speaker 2: wild times, great times. But Jay is he's just one

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Speaker 2: of those people, man, the definition of free.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the definition of somebody that is free, somebody

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Speaker 2: want to live. It's admirable, but it is you know,

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Speaker 2: when you have when you when you when you meet

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Speaker 2: not living like this person. He's living waking up and

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Speaker 5: Did you feel the same way with Doom, because I

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Speaker 3: It's a feature on the album, like yeah, yeah, Doom.

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Speaker 3: That one's really special.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: When I say I moved with like divine energy and

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Speaker 3: it might make the most sense with Doom. He the

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Speaker 3: Jay to get me that verse and he dm me and.

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Speaker 1: Is like, nah, I got to make sure this happens.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I got you, and then he texted he

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Speaker 3: And then I still had more left though, and by

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Speaker 1: Me this beat.

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Speaker 3: I took what he had, I chopped it and made

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Speaker 3: the verse on that beat is me chopping his beat,

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Speaker 3: and then the hook is the beat he basically sent me.

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Speaker 3: So then I thought about him, like, yo, I'm wondering

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Speaker 3: if those doom vocals will fit here, and it happened

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Speaker 3: I was like, yo, he's talking about being locked up.

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Speaker 3: The irony of him talking about being locked up, and

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Speaker 3: that happens to be the piece that I left, and

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about being locked up. The whole time, I

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Speaker 3: was like, this gotta happen. So that's what I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 3: I didn't plan that that happened. I put it together,

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Speaker 3: I penned. I went to my experience of being behind

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Speaker 2: I never I never did shrooms. I had shroom tea before. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm American. You're America more than anything. But are you

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Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. I got like Goldie on my project.

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Speaker 3: I still like it's Emmy, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: Know now the DMV because me and Rory been talking

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Speaker 2: What is it about the DMV that just keeps giving

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Speaker 3: I think that we have some of the highest concentration

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Speaker 3: because you know, when you look at LA and you

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Speaker 1: We just got the raw creativity.

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Speaker 3: So you know when when you look at something that's

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: When when my dad was living in Baltimore in PG County.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I even got honest, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: You from New York, Yeah, yeas be trying to claim

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Speaker 4: Jim Jones tried, which was kind of funded. That's Jim Jones.

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Speaker 4: He's going to fight.

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Speaker 5: He's our soldier, boy. He was the first. But no,

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Speaker 5: I always because I was wearing new balances. And I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm in Maryland, that's all they were.

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Speaker 1: Though in New York, we wore new balances in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure I did, but I remember, I remember

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Speaker 3: And when I was born in eighties, but I remember

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Speaker 2: I definitely listen. I'm not, but I do know that

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Speaker 5: But up here, like when my dad moved to Maryland

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Speaker 4: That was definitely a dm.

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Speaker 3: And listen, I'm definitely like I credit New York for

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Speaker 5: What do you think the DMV music lineage is like?

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00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 5: For example, you could start with Disco in New York,

439
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 5: which then went to cool Herk and then went to

440
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 5: Curtis Blowercarris wanting and so on and so forth. You

441
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 5: kind of couldn't tell the entire the entire story of

442
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 5: New York hip hop. Where where does DMV start?

443
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: Wow?

444
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: So I'm going to speak with a lack of all

445
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 3: of the information and education and answered the best I

446
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 3: can with what I what I understand. I think the seventies,

447
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: maybe the late seventies is when Go Go kind of came.

448
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: But people were rapping over Go Go. Let's not let's

449
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: not like get that twisted. People were rapping over Go Go.

450
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, people like Chuck Brown, things

451
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: like that, they were coming in.

452
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 3: Then you get to the early eighties. I'm pretty sure.

453
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: Don't quote me on this, but look it up. We came,

454
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: uh punk rock came from DC. Okay, I'm pretty pretty sure.

455
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 3: I'm like like ninety percent sure. So we obviously have that.

456
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: And then.

457
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 3: And then I think in the eighties, Go Go started

458
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 3: to expand a lot more. I think that the nineties

459
00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: came and then we had is it nonchalant five o'clock

460
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 3: in the morning when you be around that time? Right,

461
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: And by the way, I'm gonna probably miss people, So

462
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: I don't want to, you know what, I'm saying no

463
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 3: disrespect to anybody that I missed. But I think around

464
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 3: that time that started to happen when we had like

465
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: Junk Yard Band and all these people that started getting

466
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 3: like real recognition being signed to I think Death Jam Records,

467
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 3: things like that, and then we're the eerror. Where I

468
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 3: really started paying attention to certain things was when Tabby

469
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: Bonnet and Wile was coming out, because was the first

470
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 3: nigga from back home from what I remember to be

471
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: on MTV. Yeah, shout out to Tuma because Tuma was

472
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 3: working at MTV around that time, and.

473
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: I remember seeing that, like, yo, this could really happen.

474
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: I started seeing Phil I Day around that time as well,

475
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 3: so like but you know a little later actually, but.

476
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: Was the first time I really seen.

477
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 3: Like somebody like doing something you know what I'm saying,

478
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: And that kind of rubbed off on me, like it's

479
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 3: possible because not only is he from where I'm from,

480
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: he's also African. You know, he's talking about the struggle

481
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: being African, being made fun of all that shit. So

482
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 3: it's connecting with me in a real way. So by

483
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 3: the time I got locked up and got out, I

484
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: remember saying to myself, you know, I'm not going to

485
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 3: take raps seriously because my biggest thing is I want

486
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: to rap, but I don't ever want to perform. Like

487
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: the idea of performing was so crazy and scary to me.

488
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: I want to rap, but you don't want to perform.

489
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: No, I just want to put out songs.

490
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 3: And I was like, I want to have like a

491
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 3: local buzz like l A when he first came out,

492
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: but I don't want to be like a big superstar

493
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 3: and nothing like that. And that was my mentality going

494
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: into it. My Plan A was a finished school, you know,

495
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: and try to do something with that. I still got

496
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: my book from jail when I wrote my plan my

497
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: Plan B, and both of them were not rap at

498
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: the end. They had rap in it, but that wasn't

499
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: the end all be all, and so but like.

500
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm back to the lineage part.

501
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: You know, you go while A and you start seeing

502
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: like Fat trailing them and the Shotglizzy.

503
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: I was I was locked up when shot Lizzy.

504
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that being locked up and they were like, yo,

505
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: shot Lizzy, shot Lizzy. He beefing with Fat trail d

506
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: niggas telling me you know what I mean, And then

507
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 3: then there was just mad other eras like when you

508
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: go from that era to the next, I say, I

509
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: guess the next era was me starting to be like

510
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: gold Link and Chazz French people like that was coming out.

511
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: Shaboozi was around two. Like Shaboozi was always running out.

512
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: Me and him got songs from when he was like

513
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: fucking seventeen or something like you know what I mean,

514
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: and Chabuzzi coming up around his time. All of us

515
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 3: is like doing our thing. But that gold Link wave

516
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: was serious. When that came out, that was like, oh shit,

517
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, I can't forget.

518
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: There was even before that.

519
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: There was like Booby One Way Boobie and all these

520
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 3: you know, all the street rappers. It was coming out

521
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 3: to Big Wax, everybody, Circle Boys all that.

522
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: Then we go to.

523
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: After that era, you know, we all kind of was

524
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: doing our thing, was growing. I want to say Logic

525
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 3: was around that time as well a little bit before that.

526
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: And then the next era was like when Big Flock

527
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 3: and Rico Nasty and Shabaz Cutiful all them started coming out.

528
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: But that was the whole thing.

529
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Then we got young Manny and all them guys

530
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: uh zam Man, which is basically they originated the flow

531
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: that everybody's really using now, and then there's probably another

532
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: era right after that, which is kind of more so

533
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: now where you get Nino paid and you get who

534
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: else is out there, you get El Cousto, you're getting.

535
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I would say that's even a little after

536
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: maybe or close to that, where you know, right now,

537
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: I think after that era Earl Sweatshirt clip winning when

538
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: viral Niggas is like, oh shit, like that's our flow.

539
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: That's like the DMV flow to the t you know

540
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But right now, I mean like you

541
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: got people like even Machago coming out, They came out

542
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: a little bit before around my era, like like we

543
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: just got so much shit.

544
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you running down this list, it's so much talent.

545
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we were.

546
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: I think it was last episode we were talking about

547
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 5: Foggy's album, Like Foggy too. The DMV has a sound,

548
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 5: but it doesn't if that, I guess because there is

549
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 5: just so many different types of artists where there isn't

550
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 5: a definitive sound, but there is, Like I think Foggy

551
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 5: and I mean it's respectfully like I can hear some

552
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 5: of gold Link in his music to me, which is

553
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 5: very much a d m V type of tone.

554
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you know, that was the one thing I

555
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: was saying. I don't see it all the way, but

556
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: I can see maybe from the outside, and then how

557
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: it could be I see the nuance a little more. Yeah,

558
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 3: So I'm like foggy sound like foggy to me, But

559
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 3: when I hear what he's doing, it is it is

560
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: a lot of sub pockets of music, right, But it's

561
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: kind of the same way there's like a lot of

562
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: subcultures in general in the DMV, right, But ultimately what

563
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 3: you may get that's consistent is a certain type of slang,

564
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: a certain type of respect and flow that's derivative derivative

565
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: of go go music. And then after that it just

566
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: becomes what type of style you want to do over

567
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: what type of beats? You know what I'm saying, But

568
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: I'm probably missing like ninety percent of all of the

569
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: shit that's really has been going on in these errors.

570
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: That's that's the thing. But we don't have the industry

571
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: like that. So when you hear certain things, they kind

572
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: of like become like this thing where it's like it's

573
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: dope cool people taken from it for sure, but it

574
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: doesn't have the chance to incubate and becoming this big thing.

575
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: Every now and then you get certain things but not

576
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: so much right and then bruh, Like a lot of

577
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: the artists, they be like they don't have the foundation

578
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: around them so structure wise, like management, certain things like that.

579
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: So it's that's why I say we are a hub

580
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: of pure artistic talent, whether it comes to style, whether

581
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: it comes to music, all of that shit. Like we

582
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: got that in the purest form. We got the blue magic,

583
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, But we don't We're not

584
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: always able to distribute it throughout New York City.

585
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: Got it like a better Ford.

586
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: I guess you know what I see, uh.

587
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 5: With the Not Atlanta record, with what La Russell's been

588
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 5: doing with the Bay I see everyone arguing what's the

589
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 5: city and what's not the city?

590
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 4: Is the clips DMV or not?

591
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: Yes?

592
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: I say yes, I say because I've heard Parrell say

593
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: it out of his I mean, so I'll go with

594
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: real right right. I think people try to write off

595
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: certain places because it's a little too far. I think

596
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: there's two ways to look at it. There is It's

597
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: like if I'm out of town. I'd rather just I'm

598
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: so I'm closer to DC than I am to Baltimore. Yeah,

599
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: so when people say where you're from, I just say DC.

600
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: It's not But if you're from DC and you say

601
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: you're from DC but you're not from DCA, that don't fly.

602
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: So you got to know the context in what you

603
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: speaking on. If I say the DMV and it pertains

604
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: to the CLIPS, it's the most general broad aspect of

605
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: the DMV we can have. Now, the real DMV, like

606
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: the honest to god real version of the DMV, is

607
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: the metropolitan area right all around. Basically, if you're if

608
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: the train don't go to where you're from, it's not

609
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: really the DMV. Kind of that's the way some people

610
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: look at it. But because DC, Maryland and Virginia are

611
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: the d m V, the specifying that you kind of

612
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: got to be from there to really understand why you

613
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: gotta specify. So so because of that, CLIPS is d

614
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: m V. Okay, if they say it, then that's it.

615
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: That's it. You know what I'm saying.

616
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: I ain't that ain't at all.

617
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 5: Remember the Titans squad is right, because that's a New York.

618
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: We still claim the CLIPS you're the only New York Times.

619
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that. I've never heard that in

620
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: my life.

621
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 5: Face before, and he said, no, I'm not. I mean

622
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: speaking of of the clips and push your tea. You

623
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 5: and I we're talking the day that record came out. Yeah,

624
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 5: why do you think people thought you were dissing Drake

625
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 5: on that record?

626
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

627
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: That was a very odd perspective, because you and me.

628
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: It was like it was like I said Ice this

629
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: and Ice that, and I wasn't thinking about no Drake

630
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: when I made you know what I'm saying, like Ice,

631
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: and you know it was it was dark to see

632
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: that people dig that deep and listen, man, keep digging

633
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: like sometimes I do be saying some clever Yeah, it's right,

634
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 3: But I think it was that, And I think just

635
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: by nature of the timing. That's why I say divine

636
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: timing is interesting. I didn't plan for that to happen

637
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: at that time. And I think they said something about Drake,

638
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: posted something about Ice, and then we dropped a song.

639
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: I was not. That shit had nothing to do with

640
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: what I was, you know what I'm saying.

641
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: So hey, look, people probably said it because they just

642
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: thought that that's what it was, and hey, I looked

643
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: at it.

644
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: They try to dig and find little anything that may

645
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: look like a shot or beef or disrespect. That's just

646
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: what rap is. Everything is, like Mike was under the microscope,

647
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: like what he meant by that, like you said, by that,

648
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: and then like you said, if somebody drops a song

649
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: and then you drop something, or somebody posted something and

650
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: you drop something, it looks like the timing of it

651
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: all it is like, Nah, that ain't no coincidence, like

652
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: he talking to him.

653
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even think Push was talking.

654
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: Just say I could.

655
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 5: You can maybe make a case, but I still don't

656
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 5: even think Push was talking about Rake on that verse.

657
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of one of them.

658
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm not about to act that man, but unless you

659
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, like like that, it's just like

660
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: our conversations don't. Really that's not what it was, like

661
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I think he would say

662
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: what it is if it's necessary to be said. I

663
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: think he was just expressing himself on with that pen

664
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: like we all do as artists and whatever people want

665
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: to say, let him talk, Yeah, because.

666
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 5: I even saw it got weird in those threads I

667
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 5: saw people saying you you had who kids host it

668
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 5: because because the family matters, Like if y'all really think.

669
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: About that's too much.

670
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: Like I'm not the kind of guy that's obsesses over

671
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: trying to make a point or insert myself into a

672
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: conversation that I have no business in. I don't think

673
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: that ever goes well. I am a guy that if

674
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: somebody uh said certain things about me, I don't like bullying,

675
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: and I don't like and mostly mostly trying to bully me. Yeah,

676
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: it's because that's the mentality I developed from being locked up.

677
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: It's like, you let somebody play with you in them

678
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: buying them walls, that's going to be your time the

679
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: rest of the time there. You might as well just

680
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: crash out, and I have to deal with that. Crash out, bro,

681
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: you gotta if that's what you gotta do, that's what

682
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: you gotta do, because at the end of the day,

683
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: this ship is about survival and you buying them walls.

684
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: You gotta figure out how to make your time the

685
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: most comfortable possible. I'm not about to have nobody make

686
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: my time uncomfortable.

687
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: Bro.

688
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: I gotta eat, I gotta do what I do. I

689
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: don't bother. Nobody leave me alone there. I'm over here,

690
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: and I don't like that. Sometimes people think, because I'm

691
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: a nice guy like to people most for the most part,

692
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: they think that they could maybe play with me. That's rare,

693
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: by the way, but that's what I don't like. But

694
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: to me to just go out of my way and

695
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: be like, oh man, let me try to even like

696
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 3: stretch it, because some niggas to hear some ship and

697
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: then they'll be like, oh, this is my opportunity. He

698
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: said this one little line and I'm gonna try to

699
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: make it. Then nah, man, that shit don't again. I

700
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: move with divine energy. If that ain't what it is,

701
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: that's not what it needs to be. I actually fuck

702
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: with Drake, you know what I'm saying. Fuck with some

703
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 3: of the shit he does. A lot of shit he does, Drake.

704
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: I listen to Take Care when I was locked up.

705
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: That was you know, that was a record that shaped

706
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: how I even listen to music. I don't think people

707
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 3: give him the props he deserves for the music he's

708
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: put out, even though commercially he's successful. I think from

709
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 3: a respect standpoint, people write it off. I was arguing

710
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: with Torre about this shit like on the joint because

711
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: he know he has his feelings about it. And I'm like, look,

712
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: I don't know about the ghost writing shit. I don't really,

713
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: I'm not in the room to know who did. But

714
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 3: what I heard when I hear on them speakers. My

715
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: argument with him was, are you saying what he's saying

716
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: what's coming out as bad?

717
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Or is it because he may have a ghostwriter?

718
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: And once it was like what he's hearing is bad,

719
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't agree with that.

720
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: That Nigga's clever. I said this to his face.

721
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: I told him, I was like, you know how to

722
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 3: say simple clever shit in a simple way.

723
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: That's hard, extremely that's very hard to artistic.

724
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: Some man shout out, shout out to him and what

725
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: he does, no, you know, and that's not no disrespect

726
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: to push, that's not no disrespect to other people that

727
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: I fuck with. I'm just a fan of what this

728
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: is and that that guy has never done nothing to

729
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: me that I you know what I'm saying. They try

730
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 3: to say, maybe he had an idea that was inspired

731
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 3: by something I did with the k Tranada joint and never, honestly,

732
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 3: never mind whatever that was, Like an internet thing, I ain't.

733
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: I actually show him after that, and the energy was

734
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: just cool.

735
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: I left it at that. So when people try to put.

736
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: All that together, they make shit with people to fend

737
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: sometime makes shit with.

738
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: And then then then the other thing is like some

739
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: people be I'm not saying he is, I don't know him,

740
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: but some people be sensitive and take that shit seriously.

741
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm not one of them, guys, Like I really got,

742
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: like I said, bro, being behind certain walls and being

743
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: behind them walls. Bro, you look at life differently, like

744
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: you look at time differently, you look at being patient differently,

745
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: you look at who could be an enemy and who's not.

746
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: Very different yea.

747
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: So for me, like I don't move, I move with

748
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: the principles that I learned from that.

749
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, I think a lot of artists obviously

750
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 5: are sensitive, but they kind of let the fans in

751
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 5: the internet dictate how they should move because a lot

752
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 5: of times it's not even that. And then the artists

753
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 5: will be scrolling for two days and be like, now

754
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 5: you know what, maybe it is maybe he was talking

755
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 5: about it, like no, they made this up, bro, But

756
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: you should understand that the fans are the ones that

757
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: are making you think that someone is saying some shit

758
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 5: about you.

759
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 3: Well, gang, that's why I got a fucking phone. Nigga

760
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: hit my line, you know me A and Ja Electronica. Yeah,

761
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: if you feel a way about me, bro, that's why

762
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: I don't like this is just man time. If you

763
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: feel away about me, if I feel away about you,

764
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 3: oh man, ask anybody that I will call you. Yeah,

765
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit your phone, bro. And some niggas be scared.

766
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: They don't want to answer the phone. And they any

767
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: nigga who don't want to answer the phone and have

768
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 3: a conversation but want to talk on in I already

769
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 3: write you off.

770
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that's perform it.

771
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 5: But that's that's ego ship too, because one of those

772
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 5: people small attest to I do in a dumb.

773
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: Way a lot of times as well.

774
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: I will always approach somebody if there's something that has

775
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 5: to be said that man. I never understand like we

776
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 5: could just have a five minute conversation. Yeah that doesn't

777
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: mean we have to. We could just both coexist if

778
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 5: it is like that and just move forward. It's not

779
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 5: I never understand why people can't just have a conversation.

780
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: Niggas be avoiding. Bro.

781
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: Listen, Bro, I keep going back to this, but I'm

782
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: telling you, I had to realize I'm the way I

783
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: am because at pivotal ages from seven teen nineteen, I'm

784
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: to twenty. I'm behind bars. So I'm looking at my mind.

785
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: My brain is developing and I'm learning these things. I

786
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: can't do that back. You know, you can't do that

787
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: in that situation. You like, you can't hide from niggas.

788
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: You gotta confront shit. I've been in situations where I'm

789
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: hearing shit about a nigga. He feeling a way nigga

790
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: pacing back and forth. I don't know if he has

791
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: a knife on him, I don't know what he's literally well,

792
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: walk up to his nigga, like, yo, let me holler

793
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: at you. Let's let's sit down and talk about whatever

794
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 3: the fuck this misunderstanding may be.

795
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Because I got to go home at the end of

796
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: the day.

797
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: Bro, I can't deal with like all this and this

798
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: nigga on some probably crash out shit, he mind, he

799
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 3: don't know when he going home.

800
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't have time for that, Bro.

801
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it, and if it from there it

802
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 3: still escalates, then I mean I did everything in my

803
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 3: power to de escalate it and whatever happens after that

804
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: is what happens. Yeah, that's my mentality. So when it

805
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: comes to these niggas, this is a piece of cake.

806
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 3: It's just like, just get on the phone, scary ass

807
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: nigga would be scared.

808
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: Bro, it's a phone call.

809
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: A phone call?

810
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: Are you scared?

811
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: It's a message when we grown men got kids and

812
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: ship then I don't have no kids. I understanding niggas

813
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 3: got kids or gonna have kids. Nigga, what are you doing?

814
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: H let's just talk say, well, imagine your kid. Think

815
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: that's my daddy, my daddy.

816
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: That's how my dad, my daddy supposed to be a superhero.

817
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: Scared for nigga learning kindergarten? Talk it out.

818
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: But that's my look at it.

819
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 5: What was that feeling like when you thought you had

820
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 5: to do fifteen and it ended up, you know, just

821
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 5: having to.

822
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 3: Serve serve to three. So I didn't make that clear.

823
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: I never thought I had to do fifteen. I had fifteen,

824
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: I got fifteen. Yeah, but it got suspended to three

825
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: as you were a minor or.

826
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: I think that helped played a part.

827
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: I think they would have fried me and if I

828
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: was if I was eighteen, they considered it, but they

829
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 3: charged me as an adult, so it's like it's a consideration,

830
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: but it's not. It doesn't legally make them not do

831
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: or not do something. I think. I didn't have no

832
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: record prior to that. I was seventeen when it happened.

833
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 3: They didn't find said gun. There was a lot of

834
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: little shit that was like in my favor. So then

835
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 3: the judge is like, all right, man, let excuse you

836
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: three boom. You could do it on private home detention,

837
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: which is a trick bag because it's like it sounds

838
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: sweet and it's better than going to prison. Let me

839
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: make sure that's clear. But private home detention you got

840
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: paid for. It's not state, so it's a little more strict.

841
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: It's a little different. And then to be eighteen living

842
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: your life as a eighteen year old at that time,

843
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to have that level of responsibility

844
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: for that long of a time. So I went in

845
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: back in for violations and shit like that, you know

846
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and ended up having to do the

847
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 3: rest of my bid what they call up the road

848
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: in state prison, where they basically it's sweeter, it's fun

849
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 3: more fun and more livable than jail. But that's where

850
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: the real hyenas be at. That's where the real extortion happens.

851
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: That's where the Aryan Brotherhood and all that type of

852
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: shit is over there. And you have to know how

853
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: to navigate gang culture. That's why this music industry is

854
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: a piece of cake to me. These niggas ain't you

855
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like I really had to be

856
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: in that situation and navigate that as a nineteen twenty

857
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: year old my niggas, like I had to be. I

858
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 3: was a tutor, so I help people get their ged.

859
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: So every off bucks, everybody fuck with me, yeah, like

860
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: off that. And I used to cut niggas here. I

861
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 3: used to have a blade and a comb. Imagine they

862
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 3: catch me with it, you know what I'm saying, Like

863
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: I'm in the back cutting niggas here for two dollars

864
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 3: soups like nigga two packs of noodles, hitting niggas with

865
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: the shape up like all that. You know what I'm saying, Like,

866
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: that's what that was where I was at with it.

867
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: I hustled, I did what I had to do, got

868
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: to fuck out that joint man like. So that's why

869
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: I say this shit. I could see niggas when they

870
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: really that, when they're really not that, like when they

871
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: are scared, you learn how to sense fear, Like you

872
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 3: could see a nigga heart being like you know what

873
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying, You could feel it. And and one thing

874
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: I definitely never do is take.

875
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: Advantage of people's fear. I just try to.

876
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 3: Make niggas, you know, call niggas down, like, Yo, I'm

877
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: not a bad person.

878
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: We good, We can get through certain shit.

879
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: It's just when niggas trying to act like they you know,

880
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 3: act like I'm scared because I'm being nice.

881
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, just that something that happens parton of the Vlad question.

882
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: But just since you you know, you mentioned it on

883
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 5: the mixtape, what was the Christmas Eve body that they

884
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 5: try to put on you? O?

885
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 2: God, you did not commit that.

886
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: Has a whole other thing.

887
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: That's you wrapped about it.

888
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: The only reason why?

889
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no fair And and you know that's come

890
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: up quite a few times that particular conversation of what

891
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: I was saying. I want to make sure it's very

892
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: clear a lot of that was based off of imagination

893
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: and exaggerating whatever the scenario is to explain the effects

894
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: of karma, right, like going through all this shit, getting

895
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: away with everything thinking I'm and then come back and

896
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: now I got charged with shit I didn't even do.

897
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: I did have a situation where some charges came up.

898
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: We don't even talk about the charges, but they came up. Bro,

899
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: I was in my cell and they're like, yo, you're

900
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: getting moved to Virginia. Like Virginia. They put me in

901
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: a bullpen. I'm like, in a bullpen? Like, what did

902
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: I do in Virginia. I don't even be in Virginia

903
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: like that. It's the DMV.

904
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: And so they said I had my niggas.

905
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: So they said I had some charges, and I thought about,

906
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: what the fuck? And I remember the only time in

907
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: my life I ever got robbed. I was fucking wrong

908
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: with these niggas and them niggas was.

909
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. That was the day I realized I

910
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: didn't have.

911
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: A certain level of fear, meaning I want to get

912
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: a little bit into the story, like I'm chilling.

913
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: You know. In the DMV, niggas wear ski masks. That's

914
00:44:59,080 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: like a thing.

915
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 3: So I see a nigga the ski mask and I'm

916
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: with somebody who's supposed to beat him, right, And I

917
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: remember seeing a nigga, but I ain't really think much

918
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: of it. And I remember nigga came up to the car.

919
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, bro, I got a gun to

920
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: my neck and they're like, what a coke at with

921
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: a coke at? And I'm like, I don't got nothing

922
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 3: to do with none of that, bro, But I know

923
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: the nigga that I'm around. They certain shit.

924
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 4: You said, I'm a K two guy.

925
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: They into shit, They into certain shit. I had have

926
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: got out with my first bid. This was me trying

927
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: to figure out my life. I sold a like in

928
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: pala ss, so I had like six bands on me.

929
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: I remember feeling that money in the moment. The first

930
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: thing I thought is whatever this nigga needs, I'm gonna

931
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: just give him to him.

932
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: It's not worth my life.

933
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: So he's got the gun with a coke at that

934
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: it does so and then he proceeds to try to

935
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: rob me.

936
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: Right.

937
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: I do this thing where I get on the ground

938
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: and this is a car right here, and I start

939
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 3: feeling in my pockets and my nigga when I said

940
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: I think the six bands was right here. I have

941
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: a couple of dollars right here, and I have my

942
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 3: wallet right here. I was about to give him everything,

943
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: and then I realized, Man, I felt them six that

944
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: six bands. I'm like, I'm not giving this nigga this money, bro.

945
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: So what I did was fast, right, So I'm like this,

946
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 3: I'm moving my body underneath the car a little bit

947
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: right here, and I'm like giving them money out of here.

948
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: Boom, and I'm.

949
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: Throwing the other pocket, changing some more shit, and I'm

950
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 3: like the wallet two, like the wallet two nigga all

951
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: except meanwhile, I'm pulling this money out of here and

952
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: I'm doing this and I pull it, put it into

953
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: the car and I shi me out and I'm like,

954
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: I ain't got nothing else. And he goes over to

955
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: the other nigga and this nigga crying and some more

956
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: ship like this nigga I got kid like it, but

957
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: the ugly cry like and I remember in that moment,

958
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 3: like looking at this nigga supposed to be not that. Listen, man,

959
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: you can cry if you're getting right, you might lose

960
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 3: your life. I'm not gonna but I just ain't expect

961
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 3: we're gonna live.

962
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: So you could do it in the moment.

963
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: You could cry, but nah, So that that shit happened

964
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: and ship and dumb and uh. And that's why I

965
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: realized I didn't have a certain level of fear. I

966
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: was like, I got I still had that money, nigga,

967
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 3: I still got there. That's what you focused on that

968
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: which bands on the car so boom. So that's the

969
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: segway to that story. But back to what the original thing.

970
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: So myne social security was in that wallet. So when

971
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 3: that ship came up, I'm like, man, what if they

972
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: got me for my social and diss and wild ship?

973
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 3: And oh okay, now I'm getting hit for that. And

974
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: it was a serious ass charge. It was a very serious.

975
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: Charge, luckily more serious than the ship.

976
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: I was in there for it. Luckily they never moved me.

977
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: They were like, it's there's a mishap, blah blah blah.

978
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: Man.

979
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: I was like, shore relieved.

980
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 3: Bro, I'm like, I'm never getting out like at this

981
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: point because even if you because if you get a body,

982
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: you still got to being in court for like a

983
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: year fighting that year.

984
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah hell yeah. And I'm like that's what this sucks about.

985
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: It even if you ain't do the shit, if they

986
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: got enough evidence or believe they have enough evidence I

987
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: being there four minutes.

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00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,279
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00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: I liked that. I liked that that that that term.

1018
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: How did you come up with creating that name or

1019
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: that sound?

1020
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1021
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: Trap.

1022
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: So it's interesting when I first got out the well,

1023
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 3: when I got out the last time from actual prison,

1024
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: there was this thing in my mind where I just

1025
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: wanted to just be like a normal guy, normal scenario,

1026
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: like like I did whatever was in my past. I

1027
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: wanted that so far away from me. I was like,

1028
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come out rapping, but I don't want to

1029
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: talk about nothing about being locked up, none of that shit,

1030
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: And I just want to separate myself from anything that

1031
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 3: could be considered street. So I grew up in the

1032
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: suburbs the way PG County is set up Maryland. If

1033
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 3: you don't go to a private school, you still go

1034
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 3: to school in the hood with the hood. That's mostly

1035
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 3: the scenario. Or if you go to a school like

1036
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: in like let's say Booh for instance, it's a lot

1037
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 3: of niggas who come from certain areas that end up

1038
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 3: going to that school. So it's like, weirdly still bad.

1039
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 3: You know, I'm saying, like, shit just still go down.

1040
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: So I was like, I wanted to create this thing

1041
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: that made it very clear that I come from this

1042
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: and at this time, I'm not trying to talk about

1043
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 3: anything that I did, going to jail all that shit.

1044
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 3: I was just talking about, Look, man, I'm just this

1045
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: nigga that's hustling, songing, we trying to make music work.

1046
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 3: And that was what the suburban trap thing came from.

1047
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 3: And I created these little characters, like all these different

1048
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 3: people that represented people that I did meet along the way,

1049
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 3: being behind bars, things like that. But I wanted to

1050
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: make sure that my story was very clearly not that,

1051
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: And so I talked about college a lot, trying to

1052
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: go to college. I barely went, but like that's what

1053
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 3: I put like, you know, more in the music. And

1054
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 3: that's that's how subject that actually changed my life. That

1055
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: project when it came out.

1056
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 5: You mentioned your plan A and plan B written down.

1057
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 5: What did you want to do INSTEADY plan performing.

1058
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 3: But Plan B was like a registered nurse and plan A.

1059
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: You can't just say registered no, no, they do. But

1060
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting like not registered nurse.

1061
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to do because my mom was

1062
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: saying ship like that and you can make a lot

1063
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 3: of money.

1064
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: And the other thing was she was talking about it.

1065
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: So I was planning a trunk to get in I

1066
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: t When I went back to school at PG Community,

1067
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: I was trying to do computer science and learned that

1068
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 3: aspect and and that was my planning and my plan

1069
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 3: B RAP was in the plan in the diagram I drew.

1070
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: But it wasn't the end all be all. I was

1071
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: just trying to I was just trying.

1072
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: To get a good job, man, knowing that I got felting,

1073
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: and I was just trying to like figure it out,

1074
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, That's really all it was.

1075
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: Now I was texting Rory about this this this project,

1076
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: and and listening to it, uh the last two days

1077
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: like just on repeat. I haven't. I don't think I've

1078
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: enjoyed a rap project like this in a very long

1079
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: time like this, this had. This reminds me of how

1080
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: I felt when when Mock dropped Pray for Haiti. M hm,

1081
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 2: obviously you got conducted on this, so that DNA is

1082
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: is there. I'm a I was. I came up in

1083
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: the in the in the in the nineties. I'm an

1084
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: eighties baby god. So this is this reminds me of

1085
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: I felt the Far Side. I felt Tribe got you,

1086
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: I felt you know that whole era of nineties rap

1087
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: hip hop was that like making this album? Was that

1088
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 2: the intent was that the feeling, the vibe, the energy

1089
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: that you was aiming for or was this something that

1090
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: just happened, Because this is definitely like real rap hip

1091
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: hop every level, the music, the bars. You set a

1092
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: line in there, like I love when rappers say a

1093
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: line that I never heard. You say, cutting corners like

1094
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: a picnic sandwich. I've never heard I've never heard rap

1095
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: like that. So when I heard that, I was like,

1096
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: hold on. Not only is the music incredible, but whenever

1097
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: a rapper says things that I never heard any other

1098
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: rappers say, I'm impressed you know, it's hard to create

1099
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: new things and new sounds and things like that. So

1100
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: just the music and the rapping and the bars, and

1101
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: then the intention and then just everything all together. I

1102
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: was really impressed with this, and I told Ry, I

1103
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: was like, I can't believe that this album has not

1104
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: been in my rotation. It's a mixtape. Yeah, it's a mixtape.

1105
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: Like and again, you know, mixtape is just a name, right,

1106
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: But there is something that is a difference in as

1107
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: far as in creation with artists that it's a different

1108
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: type of freedom when you're creating an album versus the mixtape.

1109
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: But this, this, this, this is like some of the

1110
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 2: best rapping, one of the best projects that I think

1111
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: we've had in a very long man. So I had

1112
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: to I had to come in here and salute you

1113
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: for that. But like, what was the intention of did

1114
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: you feel like I want to I want to go

1115
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: for this energy, this vibe, golden era of rap hip

1116
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: hop or you just being I DK.

1117
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: I think I was being I d K.

1118
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: More than anything, I let production dictate what I do,

1119
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: and I think I was this I d K the

1120
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: artist and this IDKA the producer. And I think that

1121
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: when I put the records together. Then that started coming out.

1122
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: I was thinking, especially the first half of the record

1123
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: the project, I was thinking more like like fifty cent

1124
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: fifty cent and g unit. Reason being, I'm by myself

1125
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: for the most part. I got my peoples and that's it.

1126
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1127
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: I don't belong to no subculture, no community or rap.

1128
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm cool with everybody, but I'm like a loaner. Sometimes

1129
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 3: people even think I think I'm better than them. I

1130
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 3: could tell the energy. I've heard people say that and

1131
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: they ain't even like that. It's just it's like went

1132
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: back to just being being locked up when I would

1133
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: At first people didn't know how to read me, and

1134
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: I actually actually liked that. I like when people can't

1135
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: read me. I remember Og came up to me. I

1136
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: had to be here all that shit, and he's like, man,

1137
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 3: I still can't put my finger on you. Man, I

1138
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 3: can't read you. And the reason why he said that

1139
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 3: is because I will be quiet and then next thing

1140
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: you know, I'm cooking somebody or making fun of somebody

1141
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: how they dress or whatever the like.

1142
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: Whatever it is.

1143
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: So they he was like he came up to me

1144
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: because after that he was like, I thought she was

1145
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: the quiet nigga. Now you get brows the niggas and shit.

1146
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: He was like, I can't put my figure on you.

1147
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 3: And I always move with that because I always like

1148
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 3: to look at the room, see what everybody on.

1149
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: See who's who.

1150
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: That's the loud nigga right there, that's the quiet dude

1151
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 3: over there, This nigga I'm not really sure about.

1152
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 1: Let me see.

1153
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 3: And I think in the rap industry, I inherently just

1154
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 3: do that. So if someone's really quiet, I'm more loud.

1155
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 3: If someone's really loud, I'm really quiet. I'm just paying attention.

1156
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. This is like interesting. So

1157
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: I think because of that, I felt like I was

1158
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 3: a loner. And then it's just like bro, it's just

1159
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 3: certain niggas be trying to style on niggas like say that,

1160
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: and I'm like, bro, listen, man, I asked you for

1161
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,959
Speaker 3: this whatever record or whatever whatever we're doing. Don't try

1162
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 3: to act like you better than me or cooler than me.

1163
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 3: Like I understand you where you at.

1164
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 2: That's industry, though, Yeah, that's just industry.

1165
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: It's like, but I think about this shit. All this

1166
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: shit is like high school.

1167
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 3: I know the type of nigga I was in high school,

1168
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 3: but I was a certain type of nigga. I got

1169
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 3: niggas from high school with me.

1170
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: Right, ain't now.

1171
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: I wasn't the type of nigga like you do that

1172
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: kind of ship too. I wasn't the type of nigga

1173
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: that wasn't cool. They didn't get no hold none of

1174
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 3: that ship. Like I was a certain type of nigga

1175
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: in high school. And I look at certain niggas, I

1176
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: know what type of niggas they was in high school,

1177
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 3: but they got a little bit of you know what

1178
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and they move like that's who they are.

1179
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: I could tell, and I'm like, I get offended by that.

1180
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: Nah bro' this you that were cool, but you don't

1181
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: got a style on me. I'm good at what I

1182
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: do and for my resources and never being a part

1183
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: of a big community that catapulted me. I figured it out.

1184
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: So listen the features on this, but let's just run.

1185
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 5: Through it real quick before you while you're looking them up.

1186
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 5: I had said to mol earlier today, I think you

1187
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 5: outshine the features, which are kind of a very difficult

1188
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 5: thing to do with the type of features.

1189
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: That you are.

1190
00:57:53,720 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: I appreciate I mean, black Thought did go, Yeah, I thought.

1191
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 5: But to still have the presence that you have next

1192
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 5: to a Push or next to a Black Thought takes

1193
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 5: a different level of talent because usually when people suspect

1194
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 5: these types of features, you end up kind of like

1195
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 5: that's the highlight of the project, which I feel like

1196
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 5: you're the star on every song even with the features,

1197
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 5: which to me is very difficult to do.

1198
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: Nah, I appreciate that.

1199
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 5: That's where a lot of I think rappers fuck up,

1200
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 5: especially if they signed to a major and now get

1201
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 5: the opportunity to have all these crazy features, like well,

1202
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 5: now your album is feature presentation, Like now this album

1203
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 5: is dictated based off other people.

1204
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 4: No one's really gonna connect with you.

1205
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what, to that point, it is interesting,

1206
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: you know, I look at like odd Future.

1207
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: For instance, I remember when I first heard about the.

1208
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: Future from a Double Xcel magazine in the South, and

1209
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, these niggas look as weird as shit. Tyler

1210
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 3: are created, these niggas on some demonic shit, Like I

1211
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 3: don't really like you know what I'm saying, Like when

1212
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: you like, when you're around like certain people, that shit

1213
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: is weird to you. I didn't grow up really on that.

1214
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: So when I seen it, I thought it was weird.

1215
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 3: But then when I started seeing them like afterwards, and

1216
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: obviously Tyler's has done stuff on albums and shit like that.

1217
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: For me, like I started to get it more when

1218
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: I got out more, you know what I'm saying. I

1219
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 3: went to school, there's like two white people. The whole

1220
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: school was like all black, you know what I'm saying.

1221
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 3: Like I only knew one thing. So the interesting part

1222
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: of that is I see that they had a movement

1223
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: and they did their thing. I realized I thought I

1224
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 3: needed a co sign up until like twenty seventeen, I'm like, damn,

1225
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 3: you know j I d is with JJ, Cole and them,

1226
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 3: and they stamping them. And then you see Kendrick came

1227
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: in with Dre when he really came in. He came

1228
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 3: in with Dre, and then Cole came in with Hole.

1229
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 3: I lay a little bit of ho Kanye with Hole.

1230
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: Then Big Sean came from Kanye, and I was like, man,

1231
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 3: Nikki Wayne.

1232
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: All that shit Dwayne.

1233
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: So I'm like, man, there's always been people passionate torture,

1234
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, I had gotten a deal from

1235
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 3: Good Music at some point but I didn't want to

1236
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: do it because I'm like, is Kanye going to be

1237
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 3: back at me? And it didn't sound like he was

1238
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: gonna be too deep into the you know what I mean?

1239
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: So I'm just like And then it got to a

1240
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: point where I had to just go back to the

1241
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 3: mentality I always had. It's like, I can't make that happen.

1242
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: I have to do what I can on my own.

1243
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 3: That's when I went to Adult Swim with an idea.

1244
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, I got this project, but I

1245
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 3: want all the songs to sound like they could be

1246
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: on Adult Swim. The only reason why that worked out

1247
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: is because when I dropped a project called empty Bank.

1248
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: Bro.

1249
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 3: When I say Crickets, it was a second. It was

1250
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 3: right after Subtrat. I dropped Empty Bank, and I'm like, Yo,

1251
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: that's going to change my life, and it was Crickets.

1252
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: Nobody was really fucking with it like that.

1253
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 3: Nobody I experienced, Oh, this thing doesn't just keep going

1254
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 3: up because you consistently put out music or even better music.

1255
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 3: That's not how that works. It's about attention. And I

1256
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: was crushed by that. And one thing happened that was

1257
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: probably the most important thing. One of the most immotant

1258
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 3: things in my career. The guy who created, directed and

1259
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: created Tunami and Cartoon and Adults Swim. He tweeted about

1260
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 3: the album how much he loved it. So we had

1261
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 3: a relationship and that's why when I had the idea,

1262
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: I was like, hey man, I got this idea, and

1263
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: then he was like, I'm gonna get behind you. That's

1264
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: when I started realizing that's the coast signs I gotta

1265
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't be waiting on no other rapper

1266
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 3: to come fuck with me this and then give me

1267
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 3: a bad deal on top of that and it may

1268
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 3: not work.

1269
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, fuck it, I'm gonna fuck

1270
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: with Adult Swim.

1271
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fuck with this brand that makes sense for

1272
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 3: what I And then they helped market my ship to

1273
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 3: an audience, and Adult Swim is the kind of what

1274
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 3: kicked off me having like a cult following, Like they

1275
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 3: were the ones that really like did that for me.

1276
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, that far, No, those those I completely agree.

1277
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 5: Those coat signs are more important for your solo because

1278
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 5: even like I mean, of course Sean did just fine,

1279
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 5: but he just signed the good music. When Yea's coming off,

1280
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 5: Ada waits and heartbreaks going into My Beautiful arguably his peak,

1281
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 5: You're not going to be the biggest part. You'll get

1282
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 5: a look like he's on the bonus track on uh

1283
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 5: might be darks with a Fantasy, which I'm sure helped,

1284
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 5: but his real co signs because I was in the

1285
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 5: building at Deaf Jam at that time. That was him

1286
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 5: networking with the building. That wasn't a Kanye thing like

1287
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 5: he really put in. He had to go put the

1288
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 5: working Kanye rightfully, so it is focused on his career world.

1289
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 5: I can't sit here and put together the entire like

1290
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 5: Yay took a break for a second to do the

1291
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 5: push Tiana nas like. That's when he's like, I'm stopping

1292
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 5: what I'm doing, right and I can focus on producing

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01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 5: other other people ship. But at that time, now you

1294
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 5: signed good music though those guys at the height of

1295
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 5: his career, right right, yeah, I mean, how many Kanye

1296
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 5: beats are even on Finally Famous.

1297
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: Right right? Right?

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Speaker 5: No, that's one right, First of all, Marvin Gay and

1299
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 5: I was in the office Sean had I think it

1300
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 5: was the bait store. Sean had shut down the entire

1301
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 5: street and soho, and that's when Kanye and it's not

1302
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 5: a slight to Kanye. I'm just telling the truth or whatever.

1303
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 5: Kanye in the building took notice, like wait, wait, Big

1304
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 5: Sean booked the bag store by himself, shut the whole blockdown.

1305
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 5: Cops had to come, like there was too many kids

1306
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 5: out there. That was the day that Ya was like,

1307
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 5: I'll get on Marvin game shortener.

1308
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: This kid got something hit somebody. It's a certain respect

1309
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: that you got to demand for yourself.

1310
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 5: And yeah, and again it's not a slight to Yeah,

1311
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 5: he's got his own ship going on. That's why it's

1312
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 5: just tough for artists, which Maul always makes a great

1313
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 5: point with Wayne. Wayne at the peak of his career

1314
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 5: stepping aside, putting his ego to the side to help

1315
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 5: Nicky and Drake and Tiger and everyone was that's the

1316
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 5: rarest thing that does not have ever like.

1317
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got that's self confidence though, Yeah,

1318
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 3: that's I was getting pussy since high school confidence right right,

1319
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: Like he had start he was, yeah, nah, real ship though,

1320
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 3: like that ship rubs off on you in a certain

1321
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 3: way when you move a certain way, Like I could

1322
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 3: do shit like that where my eyes closed if I

1323
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 3: ever had an artist like you know what I'm saying,

1324
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 3: and the other thing is you just explained something that's

1325
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 3: really important that a lot of people don't understand how

1326
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 3: to maximize opportunity. Niggas be playing games out here like nigga,

1327
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 3: I don't play with this shit like I do this shit.

1328
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: I love this shit, man, I'm about this life I made.

1329
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 3: I made myself focus on this thing to get where

1330
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 3: I needed to get to, like Bro like same, that

1331
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: same album that kind of flopped for me, my nigga.

1332
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 3: The one thing another thing that happened Dave Free. Dave

1333
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 3: Free was like, that shit is fire. I'm gonna put

1334
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 3: you on tour with Isaiah Shad. I think Peter Rosenberg

1335
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 3: sent it to him and he was like, I can't lie.

1336
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 3: That's that's I confront that's fire, and he put me

1337
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 3: on tour with isaiahs Shod. I got like a bunch

1338
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 3: of bro. I had no money. My mom had just

1339
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: passed away. I used the life insurance money bro to

1340
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 3: pay for that my last ten thousand mile my only time.

1341
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 3: That's the most money I've ever got in my life

1342
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 3: at that time, and dollars I got from that shit.

1343
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 3: I fucking I was about to try to get a

1344
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 3: little van with it, and shit, They're like, no, I

1345
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 3: just rant a spriinner, you know. And I think it

1346
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 3: was a rush card that gave me a little bit

1347
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: of money to do.

1348
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: Remember Rush Card, It's crazy they gave me writing.

1349
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 4: I had to have people sign up every great idea

1350
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 4: in theory, yeah, I had to.

1351
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: Have people sign up.

1352
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 3: But that's the dedication, Like my last you know what

1353
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying for my mom my blessing, like you know

1354
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: what I mean?

1355
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's that's something that people that

1356
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 5: separates what I've seen.

1357
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 4: In the fifteen years I've been doing this shit.

1358
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 5: When shot Money allowed me in the building, I was

1359
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 5: not expecting Shot Money to then guide me to every

1360
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 5: next pillar. You allowed me in the building, I'm going

1361
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 5: to maximize every last thing that since you gave me

1362
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 5: a key card. I'm talking to everybody in this fucking building.

1363
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 5: I'm going to get to know everyone. I'm gonna try

1364
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 5: to figure out how I can help with everyone. I

1365
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 5: think rappers lose that mentality too sometimes when you get

1366
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 5: signed to say a jay Z all right, go get

1367
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 5: to know Sherry, go get to know the entire team.

1368
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 5: Someone's giving you opportunity that doesn't mean they're going to

1369
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 5: lead you to the fucking water. They just allowed you

1370
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 5: in the building. Now it is your time to go

1371
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 5: do something. I watched Sean talk to everybody in marketing.

1372
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 5: He was asking assistance to help him out with stuff

1373
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 5: like people that were twenty years old making forty five

1374
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 5: thousand dollars Big Sean was nobody. Oh, some of those

1375
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 5: people are stilling his team to this day. Like, that's

1376
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 5: what you need to do. When you're giving a small opportunity,

1377
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 5: how can you maximize it for yourself? That work across

1378
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 5: with everybody. That's where rappers fuck up too. There's still

1379
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 5: a business at the end of the day. I'm still

1380
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 5: of the belief that creative should be able to be

1381
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 5: left alone and be creatives. But it's twenty twenty six, Like,

1382
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 5: you have to be able to manage yourself to some

1383
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 5: degree as well, because no one's gonna get your creativity

1384
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 5: better than you are. You need to explain that to

1385
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 5: pr you need to explain that to marketing. Your manager

1386
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 5: can only do so much in that repard. You got

1387
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 5: to have those relationships. And let's not act like, especially

1388
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 5: people that work in music don't have some type of

1389
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 5: vain star mentality as well.

1390
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they want to talk to the artists.

1391
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 5: They'll work harder for you if you get to know them. Yeah,

1392
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 5: Like they want to talk to artists. That's why they

1393
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 5: got in the businesses to work with artists. So if

1394
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 5: manager's cool, I get it. But if you're not putting

1395
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 5: in a thousand hours the way you did with the

1396
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 5: guy from Adult Swim, like that means something he liked

1397
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 5: your project. He ain't like your pr agent's project through you, right,

1398
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 5: Like you got to talk to these people.

1399
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 4: And I think that's where artists suck up a lot.

1400
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1401
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 3: I think niggas just be just man so used to

1402
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 3: getting they dick suck and they just don't know nah

1403
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 3: and just be like bro, they forget that they're human

1404
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 3: and sometimes so they just be trying to like they

1405
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 3: expect to.

1406
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: Have everybody.

1407
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 3: It's like, listen, look, I think Gay said this, the

1408
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: day you become famous, you stop growing. So you're whatever

1409
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 3: age you are, that's you're going to be the rest

1410
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 3: of your life until you're not famous anymore or whatever.

1411
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 3: And that's stuck with me because it's like the niggas

1412
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 3: like babies and ship like like crying about certain ship.

1413
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 3: Like it's like even like reviews and stuff like niggas

1414
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 3: hear a reviewer like Charlomagne said something about he said,

1415
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 3: black thought bodied you bro body. He was saying this

1416
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 3: ship on on Breakfast Club about the Yeah yeah, but

1417
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: you know what's funny, he thought the nigga singing was me.

1418
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 3: So he said, I ain't gonna cut it. He didn't

1419
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 3: hear my verse, hear the peece so so, so he's

1420
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 3: saying this and I just said, man, thank you for

1421
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 3: even reacting to the joint like I DMN. He just

1422
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 3: DM me yesterday like on some like Yo, it's all

1423
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 3: up like but you know that wasn't me that you

1424
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: you thought that was me singing. That wasn't me singing,

1425
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 3: Like but see how that like that could have been, like.

1426
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: Oh man, I could have missed that.

1427
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,799
Speaker 5: Also on top of that, like you brought up Peter Rosenberg.

1428
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 5: I remember when jay Z was on want Epstein and

1429
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 5: they brought up the the nas line Eminem killed you

1430
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 5: on your own ship, and Hoe was like, while I

1431
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 5: don't don't agree with that, would I not want that's

1432
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 5: my album?

1433
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 2: I'd want an amazing Eminem.

1434
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying at the end of the day.

1435
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 5: Of course, but like you don't think I want a

1436
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 5: good verse from my album?

1437
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: And you know.

1438
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 3: What what I did say? What also is great about that?

1439
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 3: I talked to Tari Black thought we was in the studio,

1440
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 3: me and him, Erica and pause from Daylight sou and

1441
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 3: he literally I was like, man, I did that verse,

1442
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 3: but man, you came with George, like you really because

1443
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 3: I was biging him up.

1444
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 4: He's like, no, but you dropped a bunch of names

1445
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 4: down there.

1446
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: With yeah. But I mean.

1447
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 3: Be around that that type of energy, it's amazing. We

1448
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: were talking about eight tracks. I was trying to understand

1449
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 3: how shi it was when they was growing up. They

1450
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 3: never understood the h fact that's what he's talking about.

1451
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: I was talking about guy.

1452
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,560
Speaker 3: Had beefing anybody before and they had some crazy interesting stories.

1453
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: Erica was amazing. She played a.

1454
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 3: Very amazing project that I can't wait for that ship

1455
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 3: to come out.

1456
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 5: If it's the one I think talking about this the one.

1457
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 4: I don't understand why it's not.

1458
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: It's really good, it's.

1459
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 4: Incredible, it's almost too it's really actually like, yeah, this

1460
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 4: even the.

1461
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: Devil Smiles e TDS Mixtape by I d K listen, man,

1462
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 2: I just want to thank you for this project, because

1463
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 2: this is like such a refreshing just vibe energy to

1464
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: here raps in music like this. Man, It's like we

1465
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: don't like we were sold off mic like they don't.

1466
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: People don't put the effort into music as much as

1467
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: they use it. They don't have the intention, the attention

1468
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,879
Speaker 2: to detail as much. People just want to get an album

1469
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 2: done and get it out. But this this, this this

1470
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: project from top to bottom. Bro, I mean, push your

1471
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 2: t black thought, no I d conduct, which we don't

1472
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: even dmx.

1473
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: Bro.

1474
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 2: This is just I don't I just I can't stop

1475
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 2: talking about I started listening to this. Definitely one of

1476
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 2: my favorite projects in the last time in many years.

1477
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: And this is the type of album that we should

1478
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 2: be talking about Roy, Like everybody want talk about these

1479
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 2: other artists and shout out to other though I don't

1480
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 2: want to hurt Bravado. Yeah, I'm gonna say, but this

1481
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: to me is like to have this now, you know,

1482
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: Like and we said this year twenty twenty six, We've

1483
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: gotten a lot of good music so far, but this

1484
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 2: is one of the albums or problem mixtapes that I

1485
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: think everybody should be playing it because it's that incredible.

1486
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 5: Before we let you go, I'm not sure if there's

1487
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 5: something you want to advertise.

1488
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 4: But I thought I thought it was great.

1489
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 5: So by the time they hear this, your event in

1490
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 5: New York would have already passed.

1491
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 4: It is tonight.

1492
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 5: You were mentioning that there are fans that may not

1493
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 5: have the means to come to your show. You can

1494
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 5: write in letters to get free tickets. I thought that

1495
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 5: was like a really cool that you were doing. How

1496
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 5: long you been doing that?

1497
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 3: I think I did it before one other time, the

1498
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 3: last time I went and did a couple of shows.

1499
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,799
Speaker 1: I just think, like a lot of people, I think.

1500
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 3: The world is an interesting place, and I think that

1501
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 3: a lot of people are trying to figure out how

1502
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 3: to escape where we're at. And I like for my

1503
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: shows to be and my music to be an aid

1504
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: to that. But then some people just ain't got it

1505
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 3: like that right now, I've heard I saw people talking

1506
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 3: about they lost their family and financially since then they

1507
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 3: ain't been good. They had to cover the funeral, and

1508
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 3: they just asking for tickets. They just asking for tickets, gee, Like,

1509
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 3: so I give them the ticket and a meeting and

1510
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: greet for free.

1511
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's.

1512
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 3: Just like if you if it's if you're willing to

1513
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 3: write a letter about it, you care.

1514
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If I can do that,

1515
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: I can do that.

1516
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 3: And I have great fans to where some of them

1517
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: are buying tickets for other people. You know what I'm saying,

1518
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 3: which I thought was really special as well. Yeah, that's

1519
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: just really that. It's really that, but hopefully nobody abuses it.

1520
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1521
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, right, let me get some tickets And

1522
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 5: I got you right, That's why, Like I mean, I

1523
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 5: guess we could say now since we're on the topic

1524
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 5: ball and I have done that a lot with people

1525
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,839
Speaker 5: that have DMed us or even people on our discord

1526
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 5: that just buy regular tickets get great no matter what.

1527
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 5: We just haven't advertised it because I just don't want

1528
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 5: my dms to be all eight hundred people at the

1529
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 5: show say.

1530
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: Right, right, right, right, right right right.

1531
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's definitely a special thing that I admire.

1532
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: Thank you that I appreciate it.

1533
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 4: Is there anything we can expect for?

1534
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 1: Again?

1535
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 5: This is this will be out by the time the

1536
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 5: show is over. But yeah, what's the show look like tonight?

1537
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: This one.

1538
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do strictly what's on this record, So

1539
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 3: it's like, it's the show you would have normally done

1540
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 3: right when the record comes out for fans, but you know,

1541
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 3: we wasn't expecting certain things or whatever, so we ended

1542
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 3: up putting it together fairly last minute and putting it

1543
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 3: this at the time, and that made sense. I was

1544
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 3: gonna be out here for fouling and all that stuff,

1545
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 3: so that's what happened. But but the great part of

1546
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 3: it is, I'm just gonna give them this record.

1547
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: Now.

1548
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 3: There could be something later on where I do this

1549
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 3: and all the other stuff and and probably something new,

1550
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 3: but for this, what to expect is learn them words,

1551
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 3: say them words. Put that you know. That's that's what

1552
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 3: we're gonna do in New York and l a fire.

1553
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, well, I DK man, We thank you

1554
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 2: for giving us some of your time.

1555
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: Man, we know you got a.

1556
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:34,520
Speaker 2: Busy Thank you for this mixtape and incredible project fam

1557
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: And if you haven't heard it, I don't know what

1558
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: you're listening to, but turn that ship off, turned on

1559
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 2: E T d S. This ship is incredible We're gonna

1560
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: hopefully see you soon next time when you're running New York.

1561
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1562
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm that nigga. He's just Jinger. That's I. D K

1563
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 2: E T D is available now.

1564
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: Yes,