1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Michael Very Show is on the air, and now a 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: totally random weekend review from the past. 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: Take a guess when this was. 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: I go into tax Mex restaurant and it blows my 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: mind and moon and they don't have chips and sauce 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: and you have to ask. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: For it, and I'm like, by God, the Russians have won. 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: A good tex Mex experience is to walk in and 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: there's some guy who doesn't wait table. 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: He's about four or eleven. 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: You sit down and he slides at basket of piping 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: hot tortilla chips in front of him. 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: Roahang Man was stabbed at a mortuary in southwest Houston. 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: He said, believe say that he went to look for 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: his mother's body, only to find several others lying in 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: the open. 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: To discover their deceased love. 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: One was left decomposing in a room with no. 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Ac He described conditions as deplorable. They have nets, they 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: are foxes. A confrontation broke out with a mortuary worker. 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: Tamara's brother was stabbed and rushed to the hospital. 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: Did he go in the back and get to night? 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you will fight me I'm gonna stab you. 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: I guess what when you die, your families punishment is, 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: We're going. 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: To do it a fewer No, not that too. 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 5: Gail King wipes away It's year as she rides along 29 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 5: with Katie Kerry. 30 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 6: And four other fellow astronauts to the launch pad for launch. 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, baby, go for launch my favorite words. 32 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 7: But I hear people say, oh, it's just a rich 33 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 7: people say you're not looking at the bigger picture of 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 7: what is happening here. 35 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: The concept of being an astronaut. These guys were the 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: best of the best. 37 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: They were mental giants, they were physical giants. And now 38 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: we've got this costplay of Gail King. 39 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: Do you think Gail King does is therefore necessarily not impressive. 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: We're the prize patrol of the publishers clearing now and 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: we could surprise you now Publisher's clearing House, it's filing 42 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 2: for chapter eleven banker see protection. 43 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: You know they were still around that whole setup. Man, 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm slogged in. My life's miserable. Maybe I'll win the 45 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: publisher's and the clear happy Eastern. 46 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: President Trump understands you've got to create an inflection point. 47 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: He's calling for an end to the filibuster so more 48 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: of his agenda will pass through the Senate. He's trying 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: to force votes. What the Senate likes to do, the 50 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: old boys club, including the Republicans, is say yeah, we're 51 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: for it, we just can't get it done for whatever reason. 52 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: His point is, no, I want it done. Force the issue. 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: We should knock out the filibuster. 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 8: And if you did that, we'd get a voter ID, 55 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 8: you'd have no mail in voting, all things that make 56 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 8: our elections dishonest, and you get a lot of other 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,559 Speaker 8: things having not even to do with voting. But Republicans 58 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 8: should knock out the philibus, and we should. 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: Approve a lot of things. 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 8: You wouldn't have January thirtieth looming because you know you 61 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 8: have the thirtieth of January looming, you know that, right, 62 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 8: And if we knocked out the philibus, it would be 63 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 8: just a simple approval. But you have some Republicans and 64 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 8: they're unable to explain why, you know they if you 65 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 8: ask them why, they're unable to explain, they cannot win 66 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 8: the debate. 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: But they should knock out the philibus, and. 68 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 8: Frankly, they should get rid of the blue slips. 69 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 4: Too well. 70 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: We've heard Democrats and Republicans talk about fentanyl. The President 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: has declared fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction. 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot that goes along with that. This is 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: a big deal. 74 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 8: With this historic executive order I will sign today, we're 75 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 8: formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction. 76 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: Which is what it is. No bomb does what this 77 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: is doing. 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 8: Two hundred to three hundred thousand people die every year 79 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 8: that we know of, So we're formally classifying fentanyl as 80 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 8: a weapon of mass destruction. 81 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Apparently, Kamala Harris and her team are preparing for a 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: presidential run in twenty twenty eight. That's why she's been 83 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: out calling Gavin Newsom and Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, 84 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: racist and sexist. Axios reporting that behind the scenes, she 85 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: is working very hard to lock up the Democrat nomination 86 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: and may I say, I hope she gets it because 87 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: it'll be fun to run against her again. This isn't 88 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: just happening in DC. This is the playbook in Democrat 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: run cities. It even happened where I live in Houston. 90 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: A House committee report found that DC's DEEI police Chief 91 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: Pamela Smith ordered the department to manipulate crime data to 92 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: make the city appear safer. So, hey, sorry about your 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: daughter being raped and you being held at gunpoint and 94 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: your son murdered. But we're not going to report that 95 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: data to the FBI because that'll make it seem like 96 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: it's unsafe. 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Here NBC four out of DC with the story. 98 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 9: The report is labeled Leadership Breakdown, How DC's police chief 99 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 9: undermined crime data accuracy. It specifically highlights a story from 100 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 9: News Force Paul Wagner, who reported in August about allegations 101 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 9: of crime data manipulation. The report is based on interviews 102 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 9: with DC police commanders who claim there are pressures on 103 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 9: personnel to lower the classifications of crimes to create the 104 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 9: impression that crime is low. It says in part that 105 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 9: testimony from commanders paints a troubling picture of department leadership 106 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 9: placing a higher priority on suppressing public reporting of crime 107 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 9: statistics than stopping crime itself. The report says there was 108 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 9: an emphasis on what's called the daily Crime Report, which 109 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 9: has nine categories of filling the offenses, and the chief 110 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 9: was so preoccupied with the statistics of the select crimes 111 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 9: that were made public that she incentivized her subordinates to 112 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 9: lower those crimes by whatever means necessary. Commanders told the 113 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 9: committee that they were pressured and at times directed to 114 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 9: lower crime stats to lesser offenses so they would not 115 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 9: be included in the public reporting. It says there are 116 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 9: concerning accounts about a toxic management culture created by the chief, 117 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 9: a culture of fear, intimidation, threats, and retaliation by Chief Smith, 118 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 9: and that Smith regularly took action against her subordinates who 119 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 9: failed to aid in the preservation of her public image. 120 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 9: For example, one of the commanders was asked, would you 121 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 9: say there was a pattern of retaliation? 122 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: Answer? 123 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 9: Yes, We've had commanders who have been moved out of 124 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 9: their commands for you know, legitimate questions or suggestions. 125 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: That was seen as disloyal. 126 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 9: Another question to a commander, how would you characterize the 127 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 9: culture at the Metropolitan Police Department? 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: Answer toxic. 129 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 9: On Monday, the chief announced she was stepping down at 130 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 9: the end of the year after just two years on 131 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 9: the job. 132 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: On Friday, News four was first. 133 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 9: To obtain a draft report from the US Attorney's Office, 134 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 9: which also criticized the chief and said it found evidence 135 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 9: of crime data manipulation and official report could be released 136 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 9: as soon as tomorrow. Now, the chief has said her 137 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 9: resignation had nothing to do with the investigations. 138 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 10: My decision was not factored into anything with respect other 139 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 10: than the fact that it's time. I've had twenty eight 140 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 10: years in law enforcement. I've had some time to think 141 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 10: with my family. This has really been a fast paced 142 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 10: role because it is in a major city. 143 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 9: House Overside Committee chair of James Comer said the chief 144 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 9: should resign today. Comerce at Chief Smith's decision to mislead 145 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 9: the public by manipulating crime statistics is dangerous and undermines 146 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 9: trust in both local leadership and law enforcement. 147 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: Very interesting to me how Marjorie Taylor Green was the 148 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: biggest Trump supporter and supposedly the most maga member of Congress, 149 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: and now she's part of the never Trump rifters. She's 150 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: hanging out with the communist code pink wackos. I think 151 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: she's angling to cash in. How does that work? 152 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: Well, only Nixon could go to China, as he would say, if. 153 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: You are a far writer and you'll come over and 154 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: say things that support the Left, that's very valuable cash 155 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: in your dignity. 156 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: Exactly Michael Berry's show, Let's talk about Islamophobia, shall we. 157 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: It's one of those names the left, one of those 158 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: words the left loves to throw around to control the conversation. 159 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Transphobia, climate science, denier. It's from that same. 160 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: Playbook, misogynist, homophobe, racist. It's used to isolate and humiliate 161 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 2: people into submission. And if you care what people think 162 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: about you, that's what you'll do, You'll shrink. It's such 163 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: a powerful tool that even in Providence, Rhode Island, the 164 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: police chief refused to acknowledge the reports that the Brown 165 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: University shooter yelled Allah akbar before started shoot starting shooting 166 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: because that might cause people to be angry with Muslims. 167 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 11: Now there's a report shooter yelled something right before he 168 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 11: shot came in. 169 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: Can you tell us what that? 170 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 10: What that was? 171 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 12: Yes, part of the investigation, John and wolf Jem. 172 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 11: The only reason I asked that though, is, for instance, 173 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 11: like with a uniformer, his brother recognized the writing. 174 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: So it's possible a. 175 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 11: Friend or faily member might recognize if the person said 176 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 11: something that was significant. 177 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: Correctly, why you don't other than the nine millimeter? 178 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 11: Is there anything else inside that aboratory that you would 179 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 11: tell us? 180 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 12: Now that's correctly listener, Like I said, earlier investigations will 181 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 12: bring us to evidence that we need to collect in 182 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 12: order to be able to prosecute that Look, with that 183 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 12: being said, with that being said, we're going to continue 184 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 12: to collect evidence and if it leads us to something 185 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 12: to that nature that's going to be extremely helpful for 186 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 12: us to identify. 187 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: Somebody will be the first ones to put it out 188 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 4: right now. 189 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 13: Hope John's question, did the suspect yell like has been 190 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 13: reported and some of Rody is reporting yelling to hear. 191 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: In the classroom. 192 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 13: And how valuable have business statements been from those who survived? 193 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 12: Listen, My heart goes out to the victims, It goes 194 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 12: out to the families, and I'll tell you that their 195 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 12: their their cooperation has been extremely helpful, and that, with 196 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 12: that being said, will continue and I'm going to respect 197 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 12: the fact that and I hope that they get better. 198 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: In my heart and sold goes out to them. 199 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 12: So that's something that's something that we're investigating. 200 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: We took statements and we have to confirm that. 201 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: Lydia moynihan is a financial correspondence correspondent for The New 202 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: York Post. She was on CNN with Abbie Phillips and 203 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 2: Abby Phillips panel of leftists. 204 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,479 Speaker 1: The angry cynical crowd. 205 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: Listen as the panel pushes back at her correct assertion 206 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: that some cultures aren't compatible with Western culture. 207 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: Oh yes they are, Let them kill you. 208 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 14: I think we should absolutely select the best of the best. 209 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 14: It should be an individual choice. But I think we 210 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 14: can also acknowledge there are certain cultures that are not compatible, 211 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 14: which ones with America ones Well, if we look at Europe. Actually, 212 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 14: there was a lawyer this week who argued that an 213 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 14: Afghan immigrant who raped a woman shouldn't be charged or 214 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 14: shouldn't have a penalty because his culture said that women 215 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 14: weren't free an equal. We're seeing seventy seven percent of 216 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 14: rapes in France are from migrants. So there is a 217 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 14: real question that people on the right have the culture 218 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 14: about certain cultures. 219 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: What are the cultures the cultures that are okay with. 220 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 14: That, the cultures that are okay with female genital mutilation? 221 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 15: So, I mean, is it is it Afghanistan, is it Africans? 222 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: Is it? 223 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 15: What is it? 224 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 8: Like? 225 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: Well, are we going to are we going. 226 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 14: To define women have female genital mutilates? 227 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 15: How are we going to define culture? What about the 228 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 15: people fleeing female general Mutani relation. Are you going to 229 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 15: allow them in? Are they allowed in? I mean, if 230 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 15: you are you are Somali. 231 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: If you are Somalia, you're a woman. 232 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 16: You're also we're actually. 233 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 14: Trying to bring the FBI is now arrested. 234 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 15: If you want to read, if you want to leave 235 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 15: another country Afghanistan, because you want to be able to read, 236 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 15: the United States says you are not allowed in because 237 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 15: culturally you're not compatible with this country. 238 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: How does that make sense? 239 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 13: Well that I mean, look, my grandparents came from Germany 240 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 13: and Poland to escape the Holocaust, and before they got here, 241 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 13: the whole USS Saint Louis was turned away because to 242 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 13: which culture was determined at that moment as non compatible. 243 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 14: This is why vetting matters, though, and this is why 244 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 14: what I'm just. 245 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 13: Saying like that, that was not okay then, and it's 246 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 13: not okay now. If people are fleeing, right and they 247 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 13: can and they can go through and they can go 248 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 13: through VET and they can go through that matter. 249 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 8: There is an o country that takes more immigrants than 250 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 8: the United States, in the most generous country. 251 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 3: Of the world. 252 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: We are a country of immigrants. Yes, of course, I 253 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: just want to. 254 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 5: Know what was compatible about white South Africans and not 255 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 5: the rest of them. 256 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: Right, If the argument is cultural compatibility, what would make 257 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: white South Africans culturally compatible the. 258 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: Black lives not? 259 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 14: I have not seen that specific memo. 260 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 2: You Remember when the Biden administration ruled out their new 261 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: anti Islamophobia policy less than a month after the October 262 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: seventh attack. 263 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 17: Remember, and today we take another important step forward in 264 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 17: our fight against hate. For years, Muslims in America and 265 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 17: those perceived to be Muslim have endured a disproportionate number 266 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 17: of hate fueled attacks. As a result of the Hamas 267 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 17: terrorist attack in Israel and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, 268 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 17: we have seen an uptick in anti Palestinian, anti Arab, 269 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 17: anti Semitic, and Islamophobic incidents across America, including the brutal 270 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 17: attack of a Palestinian American woman who is Muslim and 271 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 17: the killing of her sixty year old son, a senseless 272 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 17: act of violence that the Department of Justice is investigating 273 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 17: as a hate crime. For so many people in our nation, 274 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 17: the past few days and weeks have brought about all 275 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 17: too familiar fears, fears that they will be targeted profiled 276 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 17: or attacked simply because of who they are, how they. 277 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: Worship, or how they look. 278 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 17: And so today I am proud to announce the Biden 279 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 17: Harris Administration will develop our nation's first national strategy to 280 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 17: counter Islamophobia. This strategy will be a comprehensive and detailed 281 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 17: plan to protect Muslims and those perceived to be a 282 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 17: Muslim from hate, bigotry, and violence, and to address the 283 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 17: concern that some government policies may discriminate against Muslims, for example, 284 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 17: the so called Muslim ban, which President Biden revoked on 285 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 17: our first day in office. 286 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: They are so worried if someone's going to be upset 287 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: with Muslims after Muslims killed you. 288 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: And again we go back to the genius bit by 289 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Norm MacDonald. 290 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 18: Well, I can't say my friend's name, but he said 291 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 18: his biggest fear is that Isis or some terrorist group 292 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 18: like that will get a hold of a dirty bomb 293 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 18: and exploded over a major city within the United States 294 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 18: and kill tens of millions of people, because then the 295 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 18: blowback against innocent Muslims would be absolutely terrible. Yes, that's true, 296 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 18: that's true. 297 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: I've been good fun, Michael Berry. 298 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: I've been fighting acquisitions after acquisition. Another tactic that the 299 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: left loves to use is what's called. 300 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: What about ism. 301 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: In this case it's the brother lover ilhan Omar when 302 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: she was on MSNBC. 303 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 13: A lot of conservatives in particular would say that the 304 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 13: rise in Islamophobia is a result. 305 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Not of hate, but of fear. 306 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 16: A legitimate fear, they say, of quote unquote Jadis terrorism, 307 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 16: whether it's Fort Hood or Sam Bernardino or the recent 308 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 16: truck attack in New York. What do you say to them? 309 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 16: I would say, our country should be more fearful of 310 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 16: of weight man across our country because they are actually 311 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 16: crossing most of the deaths within this country. And so 312 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 16: if fear was the driving force of policies America Safe 313 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 16: American seat inside of this country, we should be profiling, 314 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 16: monitoring and uh and and creating policies to fight the 315 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 16: righticalization of weight men. 316 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: Terrible thing happened a few days ago in Australia. Sad 317 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: to watch their Prime Minister was addressing the media after 318 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: the Bondie Beach attack when he made sure to bring 319 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: up the one thing that caused it, right wing extremism. 320 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: Except that's not what caused it. 321 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 19: We take Aja's advice very seriously. We work closely with them. 322 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 19: We're se regular updates as well. The Director General of 323 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 19: Asia has warned about a range of threats, but it 324 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 19: any Semitism, the rise of right wing extremist groups as well, 325 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 19: and we continue to work closely with our security agencies. 326 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: And of course the left wants to take away your 327 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 2: guns because if they can take away your guns, they 328 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 2: can control you. Never forget this, folks. Some people don't 329 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: seem to understand it. The Second Amendment to the United 330 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: States Constitution was not the right to own guns to hunt. 331 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: So when someone says you don't need an AK forty 332 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: seven or an AR fifteen to hunt, the Second Amendment 333 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: is not a protection to hunt. It is a protection 334 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: to kill a tyrannical government, make no mistake about that. 335 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: MSNBC's Katie Turr praised the leader of Australia for vowing 336 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: to crack down on Muslim tear Oh sorry, on. 337 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: Guns because they want to take away your guns. 338 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 20: Why not? 339 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Why aren't we going to fix it? 340 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 20: They're trying to do something about it in Australia. Again, 341 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 20: on the issue of guns, it only took hours after 342 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 20: two gunmen open fire on and killed Jews celebrating Honkkah 343 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 20: at the beach, for Prime Minister Anthony Albinezi to promise reforms. 344 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 19: We are stronger than the klits who did this, and 345 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 19: I want to conclude finally by saying that the government 346 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 19: is prepared to take whatever action is necessary. Included in 347 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 19: that is the need for tougher gun laws. 348 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 20: Politicians there quickly realizing that the strict gun laws the 349 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 20: country enacted after a mass murder back in nineteen ninety 350 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 20: six needed updating. So why aren't we addressing anything here? 351 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: Why not here? 352 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, four members of a liberal group were arrested and 353 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: charged for planning a series of bomb attacks across southern 354 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: California on New Year's Eve coming up. Those four members 355 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: were part of a group known as the Turtle Island 356 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: Liberation Front, a far left pro Palestine, anti government, anti 357 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: capitalist group. Here's Bill Asaley, the Trump Administration's man on 358 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: the ground, the US attorney for the area. 359 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 5: The defendants are all radical anti government members of the 360 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 5: Turtle Island Liberation Front, which, according to their own social media, 361 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 5: is an anti capitalist, anti government movement that calls for 362 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 5: their associates to rise up and fight back against capitalism. 363 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 5: One of the leaders of the organization, defendant Audrey Carroll, 364 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 5: helped organize an even more radical faction of the group 365 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 5: called the Order of the Black Lotus. Each of the 366 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 5: defendants charged today was also a member of the Order 367 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 5: of the Black Lotus. Carroll described this group to her 368 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 5: co conspirators as everything radical. As detailed in the federal 369 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: complaint which we will now make public. In November twenty 370 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 5: twenty five, defendant Carroll created a d tailed bombing plot 371 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: to use explosive devices to attack five or more locations 372 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 5: across southern California on this upcoming. 373 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. 374 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 5: Carol and her co defendant Zachary Page led the effort 375 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 5: to obtain and build the bombs and to recruit others 376 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: to join in their plot. Carol's bomb plot was explicit. 377 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: It included a. 378 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 5: Step by step instructions to build IEDs or improvised explosive devices, 379 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 5: and listed multiple targets across Orange County and Los Angeles. 380 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 5: Carol also made clear her desires, She said, quote, what 381 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 5: we are doing will be considered a terrorist act. Carol 382 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 5: and Page also discussed plans for follow up attacks after 383 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 5: their bombings, which included plans to a target ice agents 384 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 5: and vehicles with pipe bombs. Carol stated that those plans 385 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 5: would quote take some of them out and scare the rest. 386 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: I really think we're just at the tip of the 387 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: iceberg with this Somali fraud story in Minnesota, and I 388 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: think I think we're going to get I think I 389 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: think Trump is determined to expose what exactly is happening there, 390 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: and I don't know who it's going to involve. 391 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: Will it involve Keith Ellison, Will. 392 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: It involve Illhan Omar, Will it involve Timmy Wats We'll 393 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: see Here is Senator John Kennedy from wisy in explaining 394 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: how this level of fraud was able to occur. 395 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 21: Feeding our futures went to the state and said, if 396 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 21: you stopped giving us this month, we're going to call 397 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 21: you racistem We're going to see you can. 398 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: You don't want to be in the news. 399 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 21: Now here's what you said, Well, why didn't the employees 400 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 21: do something? They did they told the people higher up, 401 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 21: the people with the flags in their office, and you 402 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 21: know what, they did nothing. You know why, Well, here's 403 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 21: what the legislative Aulifer in Minnesota said. He said that 404 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 21: the threat of litigation and the negative press affected how 405 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 21: the state politicians used their regulatory Powell and here's what 406 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 21: a fraud investor gator in the Attorney General's office set. 407 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 21: She said, there is a perception that I'm quoting now, 408 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 21: that forcefully tackling this issue would cause political backlash from 409 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 21: the Somali community, which is a core voting block for Democrat. 410 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: Let's look at this Minnesota Somali fraud ring for a moment. 411 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: CBS News obtained a photo of the lavish spending by 412 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: one of the Minnesota fraudsters who stole nearly forty eight 413 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: million dollars through the now infamous Feeding our Future fraud scheme. 414 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: Always has a pretty name, doesn't it. 415 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 7: A honeymoon in the Maldives, A fleet of luxury cars. 416 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 7: Here's a box with more than two hundred and seventy 417 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 7: thousand dollars in cash. This was all evidence from a 418 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 7: new Trova files obtained exclusively by CBS News showing how 419 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 7: a group of convicted Minnesota fraudsters spent taxpayer dollars. One 420 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 7: text message reads, you are going to be the richest 421 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 7: twenty five year old. 422 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 22: We're not even at the end of the beginning of 423 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 22: our pursuit of the stolen money and of the people 424 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 22: who stole it. 425 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 7: US Attorney Daniel Rosen leads the office digging into the 426 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 7: wave of COVID era fraud that hit Minnesota. So how 427 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 7: much money are we talking about stolen from the American taxpayer? 428 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 22: I can say with great comfort, well and excessive a 429 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 22: billion dollars. 430 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 7: In the past three years, eighty seven defendants have been charged, 431 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 7: sixty one convicted. The majority of them are Somali American 432 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 7: Minnesota has the nation's largest Somali population. The perpetrators are 433 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 7: accused of ripping off state run programs intended to feed 434 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 7: low income kids, house the disabled, and provide services to 435 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 7: autistic children. 436 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: This was a get rich scheme. 437 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 7: Andy Luger was the US attorney who first examined this fraud. 438 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 7: He left in January. 439 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 6: One of the things we discovered is that a number 440 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 6: of the people involved we're buying investment property resort property 441 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 6: in Kenya. 442 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 7: Wire transfers reviewed by CBS News also show more than 443 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 7: one million DAR dollars. 444 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: Went to Chinese banks. 445 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 7: The Trump administration has said it's investigating whether any of 446 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 7: the money fell into the hands of the air groups. 447 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Michael everybody hates lawyers. 448 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: They love to quote the line from Shakespeare, and I 449 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: remind them, well, I have two law degrees. It was 450 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 2: the best education I ever got. And I loved practicing law, 451 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: and I love studying law, and law is important. And oh, 452 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: by the way, the law is horrible until one of 453 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: those pharmaceutical companies injected you with poison, and now you 454 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: want to know if there's something you can do about it, 455 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: or a doctor botched a procedure on you, or Donald 456 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: Trump was wrongfully indicted and now you hope he gets 457 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: a good defense. Lawyers are advocates, nothing more, nothing less. 458 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: They are people who speak on our behalf. It's a 459 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 2: noble calling. The problem is bad people got into it 460 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: and ruined it for the rest of us. But we 461 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 2: here at the Michael Berry Show love lawyers, the good ones, 462 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: because they do good work. Just like a preacher, a teacher, 463 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: a police officer. Law can be very good people and 464 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: they're necessary, and we have a good one today. His 465 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: name is Anhella of Valencia. He's senior counsel of the 466 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: group called Liberty Justice Center, and Liberty Justice Center is 467 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: one of these things that we've had some of their 468 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 2: folks on before that do really good work as advocacy 469 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: for people who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford them. 470 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: Thank goodness that people like you put up money so 471 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: that these people can be paid to work. On behalf 472 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: of people who are in a situation that we really 473 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: want their case litigated because it's a message to the 474 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: rest of society. The case is Abraham versus Arizona Board 475 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: of Regents. On hell, why don't you start with what 476 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: this case is about and why it should matter to 477 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: every one of us. 478 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, it's good to be with you. 479 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 6: So essentially this case is with file on behalf of 480 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 6: doctor Matthew A. 481 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: Braham. 482 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 4: He is a. 483 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 6: Tenured English professor the University of Arizona. He is pursuing 484 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 6: the Arizona Board of Regents for unlawful retaliation and racist 485 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 6: discrimination under a federal statute we call Title seven. 486 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 4: Essentially, he alleges that the. 487 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 6: University blacklisted and excluded him from prestigious faculty committees like 488 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 6: one called the Committee on Academic Freedom and Tenure only 489 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 6: because he opposed what he believed were race based and 490 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 6: THEI driven hiring and selection practices, and for filing grievances 491 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 6: and losses about it. So essentially he was punished for 492 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 6: speaking out against policies he saw as discriminatory. 493 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 4: We have a situation here. 494 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 6: Where he was applying in the past, and this goes 495 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 6: back to twenty twenty two. He was applying to several 496 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 6: jobs within the the college and he noticed that he 497 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 6: was being consistently passed over in favor of lesser qualified 498 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 6: individuals that were of other races and other backgrounds. Once 499 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 6: he started asking questions about those hiring practices, he got blacklisted. 500 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 6: He filed grievances, He filed what we call a public 501 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 6: records suit, essentially requesting information about the hiring practices. He 502 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 6: then filed a grievance at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission 503 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 6: the EOC. Once he did all of that protected activity, 504 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 6: all of that lawful, legitimate questioning, he was blacklisted and 505 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 6: he was excluded from serving on a couple of faculty 506 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 6: committees for. 507 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 4: That reason and because he spoke up. 508 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: Right, So, what we're talking about to the layman who's 509 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: driving home from work right now is reverse discrimination. 510 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: Because this guy's white. 511 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 4: This guy is. 512 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 6: Actually he is, He's American, but because of Indian Indian 513 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 6: American descent, he was passed over in favor of people 514 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 6: that were of other races, mostly his back, okay, all right, 515 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 6: at the University of Arizona. 516 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: And so the theory or his assertion or what he 517 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: suspected was, well, they're looking for non white people. They're 518 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: trying to do a level up for Hispanics and blacks. 519 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: And because Indian Americans do so well here, they don't 520 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: feel like I deserve the promotion or need the promot 521 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: so they're keeping me down and lifting someone above me 522 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: who otherwise would not have been promoted. And that is, 523 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: in its purest sense, discrimination, regardless of what someone's skin 524 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: color is, right. 525 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 6: Right, right, absolutely, And the really bad thing about this 526 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 6: case is that he got punished, retaliated, retaliated against, or 527 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 6: speaking out for asking valid, lawful questions about hiring practices. 528 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: Which everyone should be able to do. Hey, I'm curious 529 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: why I was passed over. I've done everything that I 530 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: think I should, and you know what, maybe they have 531 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: a legitimate reason to pass him over. What they can't 532 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: do and what raises the red flags is when you 533 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: start punishing someone for asking a question as to what 534 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: is happening. Because I'm sure there are a thousand details 535 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: you could provide, and certainly he could provide as to 536 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: telltale signs that he was being looked over, whether it's 537 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: whispers in the hallway or group emails he's being removed from. 538 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: And this is his career. He has every right uh 539 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 2: to to and prerogative to be able to advocate on 540 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: his own behalf right, And so where are we now 541 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: in this case? 542 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 4: So the complaint, the complaint got filed just recently. 543 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 6: The Arizona Board of Regions has until late January. 544 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 4: To file their response. 545 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 6: They could answer the complaint or file what we call 546 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 6: in motion to the dismiss which means basically, they might 547 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 6: request the court to dismiss a case. 548 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 4: Obviously we would oppose that. So that's that's what's next 549 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: to next, uh next to this case. 550 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: And your hope in taking this case, as the Liberty 551 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: Justice Center, is that this is bigger than one individual. 552 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: What do you hope comes of this? 553 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: What do you want the world to see out of 554 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: this that changes behaviors in the future. 555 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 6: Right, So, while this case it's about doctor Matthew Abraham. 556 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 4: It's really about more than that. 557 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 6: It's about whether in secutions of higher education like universities 558 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 6: can punish faculty members for speaking truth to power, especially 559 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 6: when it comes to policies that undermine merit and fairness 560 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 6: in the name of DEI. In this case, when we 561 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 6: were talking about DEI and inclusion, this is a case 562 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 6: where literally the result was not an inclusion, it was 563 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 6: exclusion because doctor Matthew Abraham was excluded from serving on 564 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 6: these committees for asking questions. 565 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 8: It is. 566 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: It's an interesting practice you have because you don't have 567 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: to have people come through the door who have a reason, 568 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: no chance of monetary compensation, so that you can make 569 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: a living. People have put up their money behind the 570 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: Liberty Justice Center so that you could take cases like 571 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: this without regard to whether there is a financial windfall 572 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: at the end of the day. And that's what we 573 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: call standing on principle and we are always a fan 574 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: of that unheld Valencia. Well look forward to hearing how 575 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: the case turns out. It is known as Abraham versus 576 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: Arizona Border Regions. If you would like to check it out, 577 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: and I encourage you to support the Liberty Justice Center. 578 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: Keep up the good fight. Good sirs, good good, thank you, 579 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: and good night.