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Speaker 2: and JAVVD.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, look at it. How
Speaker 3: she showed up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she showed up. That's why I freaking frag right there.
Speaker 5: Back back again, Ready for the country club Kentucky Derby
Speaker 5: jack y'all our barbecue, Memorial Day celebration.
Speaker 3: All and fascinating and a fascinator.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Porsche.
Speaker 2: So Porscha decided to go see a house that had
Speaker 2: eight bid rooms. It cost four point two million dollars.
Speaker 2: She's with her sister Lauren. She's with her mother, Diane,
Speaker 2: and she is trying to figure out whether or not
Speaker 2: per the divorce proceeding. She's trying to get a hit
Speaker 2: of things, so she is out there looking just in
Speaker 2: case Simon in the court divorce proceedings if he is
Speaker 2: allowed an award of the house in the end. So
Speaker 2: just to update you guys, I believe this is public knowledge.
Speaker 2: It may be alleged, so I'll say allegedly just to
Speaker 2: be safe, but allegedly in the prenup of Porsche and
Speaker 2: Simon when Porsche a file for divorce. According I believe
Speaker 2: Simon revealed this, if I'm not mistaken, but Simon alleged
Speaker 2: that because of the prenup, Porscha is able to have
Speaker 2: the house, and I believe she's able to have it
Speaker 2: for a few years.
Speaker 1: There's all things Simon revealed.
Speaker 2: She's able to have the house for a couple of
Speaker 2: years or made when when the divorce is final. So
Speaker 2: that's why she is still in the house. And I
Speaker 2: think based on the prenup, Simon still has to pay
Speaker 2: the mortgage although he's not in the house. That's all alleged,
Speaker 2: but just in case the judge does say Porscha get out.
Speaker 2: She wants to be able to figure things out because
Speaker 2: when she was with Cordell, she left with nothing.
Speaker 1: This is what she said.
Speaker 2: So she was smart in her second divorce to make
Speaker 2: sure she had all of her ducks in the row.
Speaker 2: And in this case, her house is in a row.
Speaker 2: So Dustin and Das, let's start with jass Man, what
Speaker 2: did you think about that?
Speaker 5: I think the house is beautiful. I want to rent
Speaker 5: the guest house from her if she purchases that home.
Speaker 5: Her mom looks amazing. Her mom always looks like she
Speaker 5: has been looking so good the last couple of seasons.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think Porsia is doing the smart thing.
Speaker 5: She did an even smarter thing if it is true
Speaker 5: with the prenup that Simon has to pay the mortgage
Speaker 5: on the house that she's currently in and she can
Speaker 5: stay there for a couple of years. So if that
Speaker 5: is true, she just was looking at this house for
Speaker 5: to have something to have as a storyline because we
Speaker 5: know that she can't film in that current home. But
Speaker 5: you know, Porscha learned from that first marriage with Cordell,
Speaker 5: who was not perfect by far. Gorde's not perfect by far.
Speaker 5: That was some of her best acting right there. But yeah, no,
Speaker 5: she said, I'm leaving here with something, And you know,
Speaker 5: it's the smart thing to do women. You know, women
Speaker 5: like Porsia is not gonna get burned twice, no matter
Speaker 5: how I might feel about her overall this season.
Speaker 6: That is the right thing to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, as a motherfucker that just moved myself.
Speaker 4: You always look at properties, whether you can afford them
Speaker 4: or now, whether you want them or not. You look
Speaker 4: at some things that are aspirational. You know, you have
Speaker 4: to be in certain spaces sometimes to manifest certain realities
Speaker 4: in your life and your future.
Speaker 3: And so maybe that's what we saw. To me.
Speaker 4: I don't like that whole court game they playing back
Speaker 4: and forth with that beautiful home that her and Simon
Speaker 4: was living in, because let's be clear, that was a
Speaker 4: badass house, right, but that game that was playing about
Speaker 4: who can occupy who can't? Being caught all up in
Speaker 4: that courtshit way to play it for that. And plus,
Speaker 4: your home is somewhere that you need to feel stability
Speaker 4: and comfort. There needs to be a place of certainty
Speaker 4: for you. You need to know you living there and not
Speaker 4: have a looming threat of being kicked the fuck out
Speaker 4: at wheel Er at any time, so I understand her looking.
Speaker 4: I wish we could have seen her buying. I wish
Speaker 4: Porscha's moo this season was yeah, I know, I can't
Speaker 4: talk about him, want me the film in the house,
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna let y'all and him and all his
Speaker 4: damn family because we've seen all them weddings. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: let all of them know. I'm buying my own house,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I wish that that is
Speaker 4: what we saw. We saw her closing the deal on
Speaker 4: the crib. Obviously, Porscha has an incredible deal to come
Speaker 4: back and be a part of the Real.
Speaker 3: Housewives of Atlanta.
Speaker 4: We've seen all the headlines of that dropped in all
Speaker 4: the trades and Variety and deadline and all that shit
Speaker 4: when she first got the deal to come back. There's
Speaker 4: more to her situation over there at Bravo and NBC
Speaker 4: Universal than just her participation in the Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Speaker 4: There's some unscripted opportunities. She's a great host. I personally
Speaker 4: will never forget what she did that slow motion gland
Speaker 4: back cam on the People's.
Speaker 3: Choice Carpet and tore it the fuck up in that
Speaker 3: black dress.
Speaker 4: That was a highlight for me, and that was a
Speaker 4: moment where I was like, you know, there's space for
Speaker 4: Porscha outside of just the things we've seen her do,
Speaker 4: so hopefully we see that. But her looking at the
Speaker 4: house wasn't shit to me. Porscha, we don't care about that.
Speaker 4: We need some actual, factual shit from you because you
Speaker 4: haven't been able to talk about the realities of your
Speaker 4: life that are so prominently occupying media space otherwise, so
Speaker 4: we haven't seen that from you.
Speaker 3: You need to have as many.
Speaker 4: Actual direct, you know, situations, tangible moments as you can
Speaker 4: since you can't film in the house that we all
Speaker 4: want to see you in that makes this and you
Speaker 4: can't even talk about Simon. You got to do something real,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Everything in your life can't
Speaker 4: be in question.
Speaker 6: So yeah, Carlos, I have a question for you.
Speaker 5: Is there any reason why we can't see the behind
Speaker 5: the scenes of her like working on developing some shows
Speaker 5: for NBC Universe, So like, why can't we see more
Speaker 5: of professional Porsche since she can't really talk about personal Porsche.
Speaker 4: Oh I miss you, Jass, Jasmine Henley Brown.
Speaker 2: So I've said this before, but I'll say it again.
Speaker 2: We don't talk about before we become live. We're going
Speaker 2: to talk about all of this is fresh and it's new,
Speaker 2: and that's the beauty of month in my live.
Speaker 1: So that's a good question.
Speaker 2: So to update the audience in case you guys don't know,
Speaker 2: Porsche decided not to return to The Real Housewives Atlanta
Speaker 2: after her spin off, Porsche's Family Matters, I think that.
Speaker 1: Was the name of it.
Speaker 2: She took three years off to be a wife, a
Speaker 2: Real housewife, and when she got back to the Royal
Speaker 2: House Sports of Atlanta, it, like Dustin said, it wasn't
Speaker 2: all the trades that Porsche had a She secured a
Speaker 2: scripted development deal with NBC Universal so that she was
Speaker 2: able to develop projects not only in.
Speaker 1: The unscripted space, but in the scripted space.
Speaker 2: And at that time, Porsche was definitely the first black
Speaker 2: woman on Bravo to achieve such merit.
Speaker 1: She was the first. So shout out to Porsche for that.
Speaker 2: To answer Jazz's question, which is a very good, solid question,
Speaker 2: because Porsche is unable to talk about signing for legal reasons,
Speaker 2: he sent cease and desist not only to the production
Speaker 2: company and the network in regards to not allowing cameras
Speaker 2: in the house, he also does not want to be
Speaker 2: mentioned as well. And I think in order to prevent
Speaker 2: anybody from getting some sort of legal notice, I would
Speaker 2: have done it with my shows as a company owner. Two,
Speaker 2: I think that deep there's certain people in my shows
Speaker 2: whose name don't get mentioned that y'all be asking me about,
Speaker 2: and I can't mention their names, nor can the cas
Speaker 2: because that happened. I do think one of the reasons, Jazz,
Speaker 2: why you aren't able to see Porsche develop shows for
Speaker 2: the network, which to me would be a great scene,
Speaker 2: is because oftentimes it's sort of it sort of puts
Speaker 2: the audience in this weird space to where they're taken
Speaker 2: out of her living her normal life. Does that make
Speaker 2: any sense, It's sort of like it's highlighting once again,
Speaker 2: you are a housewife.
Speaker 1: You have a deal with the network.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like when Kim Fields when I work
Speaker 2: with her, and Kenya grabbed her chair and I said,
Speaker 2: who would you like to talk to about what happened?
Speaker 2: And she said Andy Cohen And I said, mss Mama.
Speaker 2: Andy Cohen does not exist in this world, and she said, yes,
Speaker 2: he does. I speak to him all the time. I said,
Speaker 2: my love in this TV show right right, And Andy
Speaker 2: Cohen was able to receive phone calls.
Speaker 1: The entire franchise would do it.
Speaker 2: So I personally, Jasna would have love to see Portsiche
Speaker 2: develop stuff. What I what I do know is Porsche
Speaker 2: is developing things. Porsche is involved in a lot of projects,
Speaker 2: and I think, to your point, it would have been nice.
Speaker 5: To see that, yeah, because she's not She's not having
Speaker 5: a good season, and I think being able to see
Speaker 5: that part of her would at least give us a
Speaker 5: little more dimension because right now she's just giving yeah
Speaker 5: mean bad friends, all the negative things that people who know.
Speaker 5: I don't know her personally, you know, I executive produced
Speaker 5: her podcast with her her mom, like in the later stages,
Speaker 5: so I never even actually met Porsche. I just oversaw
Speaker 5: their own podcasts, So I don't know her personally. But
Speaker 5: what I do know from like people that work with her.
Speaker 6: That this isn't who she is.
Speaker 5: And I hate that this is the rap that she's
Speaker 5: getting this season because I've always only heard really good
Speaker 5: things about her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and it's a stain. It's a stain.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Carlos, but it's a bad stain because these
Speaker 4: are things that these aren't new, you know, determinations that
Speaker 4: are being made about Porscha's character or her willingness to
Speaker 4: participate or be transparent. Shamiah threw us that ali real
Speaker 4: quick when the scene when they had to sit down
Speaker 4: last week, and she said, I want you to be
Speaker 4: the Porsche that we see off cameron when we were
Speaker 4: off camera kicking it, and I told you that this
Speaker 4: is what I wanted to see on camera. What did
Speaker 4: you say? You said, they got to pay me my
Speaker 4: money for that. Shamia saying that on camera was not
Speaker 4: by chance. Let's be clear, because that's a very direct implication.
Speaker 4: It's a very clear picture painted of a person's intention
Speaker 4: and of how a person is showing up and answering
Speaker 4: the call, right, And so I just, you know, let's
Speaker 4: just say that.
Speaker 3: But we want to see the real Porscha.
Speaker 4: We love seeing the off camera Porsche on Instagram and
Speaker 4: on her great YouTube channel that don't make me called
Speaker 4: Porsche Show, and her and Dennis and all this shit
Speaker 4: we see in that damn badass house, that.
Speaker 3: Beautiful fucking house that we can see everywhere but the
Speaker 3: real house. I was of Atlanta.
Speaker 4: We see it on Amazon Live, we see it on YouTube,
Speaker 4: we see it everywhere at butt there.
Speaker 3: But you know, for whatever reason, she can't we get that.
Speaker 4: We're just saying a little bit more of something to
Speaker 4: work with from her would be great because me personally,
Speaker 4: I don't dislike Porsche. I enjoy what she brings to
Speaker 4: the show, and you need somebody that's edgy and sharp.
Speaker 4: If she's not carrying the villain blade this season, who
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to her next, so I think it's
Speaker 2: playing the fill and play before we move on. I
Speaker 2: will say this about Porsche and what you guys are
Speaker 2: seeing this season. I said this before Jasmine obviously wasn't
Speaker 2: here for that, and Dustins making a good point too,
Speaker 2: I do think is this what we saw in season six?
Speaker 2: And I was there season six. I didn't work with
Speaker 2: portsche on season five, that was her debut season, and
Speaker 2: I remember watching her at home being like, this girl
Speaker 2: is a star. Like I just I thought she had
Speaker 2: the eye and the tee because the way her and
Speaker 2: Kenya would have their back and forth was so delicious
Speaker 2: to watch, and she was so quick on her feet
Speaker 2: but whole like by Ashy and how she was just
Speaker 2: quick to like whatever Kenya gave her, she picked it
Speaker 2: up and threw it back at her.
Speaker 1: It was an amazing sport between the two.
Speaker 2: And when there were conversations about whether or not to
Speaker 2: bring her back, I was one of the people like,
Speaker 2: I'm unbiased. I didn't work on last season. As I'm
Speaker 2: entering season six, I want her to come back. I'm
Speaker 2: obsessed with this girl and I feel like you guys
Speaker 2: haven't seen the best of her yet, so I'm advocating
Speaker 2: for Porsche to come back. When she came back season six,
Speaker 2: Kenya said this already, talk about saying anything new. Kenya
Speaker 2: did not work for two weeks because Kenya decided Kenya
Speaker 2: had a hard time coming back, So we spent the
Speaker 2: first two weeks filming tons of scenes with Porschechot because
Speaker 2: Porsche understood the assignment and when she was going through
Speaker 2: the divorce with the Cordell What y'all saw season six
Speaker 2: was Porsche being able to talk about her divorce, talk
Speaker 2: about what she was going through with Cordele. You saw
Speaker 2: her emote with her mom and her sister. When the
Speaker 2: boxes came to the house and she put the knife
Speaker 2: to the cake. The cake or no the photo album, sorry,
Speaker 2: the photo album. You saw Porsche being able to talk
Speaker 2: about her divorce, being distraught about it, and when she
Speaker 2: did move to Duluth and she moved in Nini's neighborhood
Speaker 2: and Nini was like, you're in my neighborhood. After Favor
Speaker 2: told Nini like, yeah, she lives in your neighborhood. And
Speaker 2: Needa called Porsia a bad friend. What we, meaning the
Speaker 2: producers and the audience knew at that time and Porsche's
Speaker 2: life was she is not herself because she's going through
Speaker 2: this massive divorce and Porsche was losing lots of weight.
Speaker 2: Porscha was in a horrible place during season six, but
Speaker 2: she was able to talk about it. And when Nini
Speaker 2: said she was a bad friend, the reason why they
Speaker 2: were able to get past this because Porsche said, I.
Speaker 1: Need you to understand when I'm going through my divorce.
Speaker 2: So when people are talking about Porcha this season, I
Speaker 2: think what I would like for everyone to understand is
Speaker 2: unfortunately she's not able to give us the level of
Speaker 2: reality the way that she was with Cordell, and when
Speaker 2: you're seeing her do things and Porscha said this on
Speaker 2: her on YouTube channel make sure y'all subscribe to it,
Speaker 2: that she was just like all over the place this
Speaker 2: season because she was she wasn't mentally in the right
Speaker 2: space now making excuse this, I think if you guys
Speaker 2: who are the historians of housewives, if you look at
Speaker 2: Porscha's season six going through shit and being called the
Speaker 2: bad friend, we all gave her a pass.
Speaker 1: Because she was going through something so tumultuous.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we're not able to see that because Simon wanted
Speaker 2: to prevent her from having great season allegedly and not
Speaker 2: being able.
Speaker 1: To talk about him filming the house.
Speaker 2: So all she's able to do is show up and
Speaker 2: be distracted.
Speaker 4: So there's another note there, though, Los There's another note there.
Speaker 4: Part of what endeared and hooked the viewers into porsa
Speaker 4: historian between seasons five and six, and actually from season
Speaker 4: five more going forward, was there was a freedom, right,
Speaker 4: there was a breaking of the chains and unshackling that
Speaker 4: took place. Porscha was very much submissive and very much
Speaker 4: docile in her role as a wife to Cordell, right
Speaker 4: when a lot of people felt like it was undeserved
Speaker 4: and it's so much so that she remember, you know,
Speaker 4: you were there. She didn't want to go to the
Speaker 4: strip club when they were in Vegas. She didn't want
Speaker 4: to do all these things. There was that big kerfuffle
Speaker 4: on the bus, right, Okay, So after that, Porsia's story
Speaker 4: became Now that I'm free from this controlling husband or
Speaker 4: this husband who call them control and call them you know,
Speaker 4: restrictive whatever. Yeah, right, Jasmine, Now I can exist in
Speaker 4: the fullness of my womanhood.
Speaker 3: She got her titties done. She started you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: She showed up more, She was more vocal and much
Speaker 4: more like Okay, yes I am a single, beautiful black woman,
Speaker 4: and yes I do have sex appeala natural charisma, and
Speaker 4: she stepped into it, right. But you really only have
Speaker 4: one opportunity to make that pivot or go through that
Speaker 4: portal once you're there.
Speaker 3: You there.
Speaker 4: So seeing Porsche in this iteration of a divorce, right, which,
Speaker 4: of course we have empathy and fellow feeling for her,
Speaker 4: But that combined with the history and the track record
Speaker 4: that we've seen that is less than ethical, We'll say, right,
Speaker 4: depending on where you stand on the side of those things,
Speaker 4: there's questions that can be asked. So it has waned
Speaker 4: the amount of grace that she's been given this go round.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's a different it's a different divorce arc for Porsia
Speaker 4: this time because it's a completely different portra and I
Speaker 4: think people are struggling with finding empathy and finding fellow
Speaker 4: feeling for something that we all understand to be a
Speaker 4: difficult circumstance when you think about what she has imposed
Speaker 4: on others throughout her own actions, and I think that's
Speaker 4: the bridge that people are kind of having difficulty finding
Speaker 4: this time around.
Speaker 3: That's the difference you feel me.
Speaker 5: That's such a good point to bring up, Dustin because
Speaker 5: as much as people who are close to her such
Speaker 5: as Carlos right not throwing you under the bus, but
Speaker 5: like Carlo, people who work closely with Porsche, she is
Speaker 5: a good person to you guys, But for the audience
Speaker 5: she has shown on multiple occasions that she has the
Speaker 5: capacity to not be that good of a person, Like
Speaker 5: the whole thing with Bald and Simon that rubbed a
Speaker 5: lot of people the wrong way, and we don't have
Speaker 5: an excuse for that, Like what was she going through then?
Speaker 5: That would make her make a choice like that, right, Like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we can give her grace for going through a divorce,
Speaker 5: and yes, that can make a person really nasty. We've
Speaker 5: also seen Porsia grow up a lot on this show.
Speaker 5: She was very young when she started. Any woman watching
Speaker 5: Porsha knows this is like kind of the natural evolution
Speaker 5: of women. We all go through this as we get older,
Speaker 5: if you become more comfortable with ourselves. But the flip
Speaker 5: side of that is that she's had so many other
Speaker 5: instances where it's like, we cannot make an excuse for
Speaker 5: this behavior. And once you do that type of behavior
Speaker 5: on multiple occasions, it's like, is that just who you are?
Speaker 5: And you know, people have multiple sides to them. She
Speaker 5: can be multiple things.
Speaker 6: Everybody is layered.
Speaker 5: But I think think the argument for people, you know,
Speaker 5: as Doeston mentioned not having a lot of grace for her,
Speaker 5: it's just like, how much grace can I give a
Speaker 5: person that has shown on more than one occasion that
Speaker 5: they have the propensity to not really be the most
Speaker 5: klosher person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think listen, I definitely think when it
Speaker 2: comes to everything you're saying, there is room for that
Speaker 2: to be discussed, and they sit down over long interview.
Speaker 4: So I'm a person who likes Porsche, so her in
Speaker 4: conversation with you, I welcome it.
Speaker 3: I like Porsche.
Speaker 4: I like when she's bringing I just recognize certain shit
Speaker 4: for what it is, and I wish she just stand
Speaker 4: in it, just stand in it. I don't like them.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 3: I'm mad and Drew.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go to dinner with her. Say she
Speaker 4: want to film with my baby daddy. Now I'm gonna
Speaker 4: film with her, nigga on camera.
Speaker 3: Just say it and then people can receive it.
Speaker 4: That's why people love Kenya, because when Kenya was on
Speaker 4: some bullshit, she would to say it's like, oh no,
Speaker 4: I'm absolutely gonna, and then you would have it. I
Speaker 4: think that's the difference, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the world can respect a villain that stands in
Speaker 5: their villainaire.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I love a villain. I love a villain.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, I want to get to Brett, who
Speaker 2: some people are calling the villain of the season. Jasmine,
Speaker 2: I have no idea how you feel about Bread. This
Speaker 2: is by this episode is so thrilling to me. So
Speaker 2: in this episode, hints hints Jasmin's costume, it's the old
Speaker 2: to bread.
Speaker 4: Not give up fascinator, give it up for Jazz's fascinator
Speaker 4: and gloves, yes, okay and glove.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if she plays golf in this outfit,
Speaker 2: but we will ask for that later.
Speaker 1: So not do I pay people. I like to feed them.
Speaker 2: To this Jasmine mnf penough and TUTSI rolls on me
Speaker 2: now with that being.
Speaker 5: Baby, I'm so sorry. I am not I'm not impoverished.
Speaker 5: I'm not eating row.
Speaker 6: But I will take a word. There's caramel. I will
Speaker 6: take a word. There's caramel.
Speaker 4: Take awa, there's original. You can call me old as
Speaker 4: you want. The motherfuckers is good. And anybody grandmama's great
Speaker 4: auntee friends, special friend, if your grandma's in that life whatever,
Speaker 4: I want one at the bottom of your purse. I
Speaker 4: love words, and I love them. Strawberry candies. It's in
Speaker 4: that strawberry Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So in this episode, this episode backdrop in
Speaker 2: terms of an event, hey, tsha, in terms of an event,
Speaker 2: this I miss her episode.
Speaker 3: I missed them.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Carlos, Okay, I will okay, this is so
Speaker 2: much fun. Brit said that she has this shape wear
Speaker 2: line and the shape were line is called Bear Naked,
Speaker 2: not to be confused with Porscha's multimillion dollars Go Naked Hair.
Speaker 2: That it's off the shells and gets Tramundo's from go
Speaker 2: Naked here dot com.
Speaker 5: Now she clear, Carlos, it's not bear naked, it's Bear
Speaker 5: and naked.
Speaker 1: Thank you journalist, Jack, Bear and Naked.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is not Bear and Naked.
Speaker 1: In case you guys from wondering.
Speaker 6: No, that is not from Ali Express. It doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's from Express.
Speaker 2: So Britt did say in this episode that her insurance
Speaker 2: license is on hold and now she gets to focus
Speaker 2: on her shapewear mine.
Speaker 1: Now, have you guys been watching the show?
Speaker 2: Britt did say that after ken Getmore displayed those images
Speaker 2: of her, she said that allegedly there was an investigation
Speaker 2: in terms of her insurance license. Claudia and Jordan spoke
Speaker 2: to a insurance licensed her who.
Speaker 1: That story step that's not true, but that's a legend.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm not so Claudia.
Speaker 2: Claudia spoke to not only one sort, she spoke to too,
Speaker 2: and they both said the live detective test said that
Speaker 2: was a lie. Claudia sources said, we do practice journalism
Speaker 2: on Monday Night Live, so I want to touch on
Speaker 2: that before we get to the event. I thought it
Speaker 2: was carefully If I'm being honest, I thought I was
Speaker 2: carefully crafted to make that statement in terms of why
Speaker 2: we are now going to focus on the shape or line,
Speaker 2: because we haven't seen brit at work, and that is
Speaker 2: something that I think when your new housewife, we want
Speaker 2: to see you at work. We see Angela Oakley in
Speaker 2: her rental properties, we see Shmia at the radio station.
Speaker 2: We saw maybe one scene I think of Kelly at work.
Speaker 2: I would love to see work Kelly at work, but
Speaker 2: we haven't seen Britt do anything in terms of work.
Speaker 2: When that timent was made, did you think it was
Speaker 2: used as a way to dispel the rumor that her
Speaker 2: insurance license did in fact get canceled.
Speaker 5: I don't know that it did much to dispel anywhere.
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody was like cared about it anymore. Honestly,
Speaker 5: I think by the time this is introduced, like we're
Speaker 5: kind of over it, Angela had already called her out
Speaker 5: about the story that she started to tell about her
Speaker 5: insurance license at the forgiveness brunch or whatever.
Speaker 6: So I think we as.
Speaker 5: An audience er, you know, I'll speak for myself. I
Speaker 5: stopped caring at that moment. I was like this, something
Speaker 5: in the milk isn't clean. With this, she's probably lying.
Speaker 5: I'm ready to move on. I'm ready to move on
Speaker 5: from Britain just in general. So I think that also
Speaker 5: might be why I just like, I don't, I don't
Speaker 5: really care, you know what I mean. She is a
Speaker 5: villain this season. Anytime you starve people, that's a villain.
Speaker 5: This behavior it's very really very mean, very nasty.
Speaker 6: But maybe she was starving us so that they could
Speaker 6: fit into her shapewear.
Speaker 5: That's question happy food. So yeah, just to answer your question,
Speaker 5: I didn't care either way. Like girl, all these ladies
Speaker 5: have these businesses. One season, next season they have another business.
Speaker 5: She's going to be a rapper next season and working
Speaker 5: on her album.
Speaker 6: It is what it is. It wasn't a big deal.
Speaker 6: It didn't even stand out to me. Honestly. It stood
Speaker 6: out more to me that she couldn't.
Speaker 5: Afford to pay her entire party, or to pay for
Speaker 5: her entire party to eat.
Speaker 6: That's what stood out to me the most.
Speaker 3: Okay, so two things, So thank you, my love. Two
Speaker 3: things right.
Speaker 4: Number one, let's get on the food issue. That food thing,
Speaker 4: for me, I look at it the same way I
Speaker 4: look at like if I was black China and Tokyo
Speaker 4: Tony was my mama, nobody would know about it. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I would lie to the bitter
Speaker 4: end about that. Not lie, but I just would never
Speaker 4: put it out there. If she said she was my mom,
Speaker 4: I'd be like, I've never seen that woman in my life,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Certain things the audience did
Speaker 4: not even have to know, brit exposing that faux paw
Speaker 4: with the food or whatever. You should have threw that
Speaker 4: card down on that table so fast and been like
Speaker 4: feed everybody in the room will take care of it,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, So that you don't look
Speaker 4: inadequate in that way when you're on a show that
Speaker 4: it's all about optics and all about how presentation, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. On the show where your cash
Speaker 4: Mae was gifted a five hundred thousand dollars SUV in
Speaker 4: the first fucking episode, like that kind of stuff matters.
Speaker 4: In addition to who in the fuck wants to have
Speaker 4: an event where you not feeding motherfuckers? Were people out
Speaker 4: in there with that plate and an expectation and no
Speaker 4: return on that. I just don't think it was cool
Speaker 4: to me, like her husband should have stepped in and
Speaker 4: been like and.
Speaker 3: Who knows if he did or did not.
Speaker 4: We don't know what took place, but based on what
Speaker 4: we saw on the screen, it would have been nice
Speaker 4: to see somebody fix that or us not even know
Speaker 4: that that happened, because unfortunately it made people look like
Speaker 4: brit is not taking care of her business when it
Speaker 4: comes to bill.
Speaker 3: Shit like that, You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: The classic things that they love to throw at housewives,
Speaker 4: especially Black Housewives, they do this. And when I say they,
Speaker 4: I mean the critics of the show and people who
Speaker 4: speak negatively about the show. They love throwing the accusation
Speaker 4: of a person living beyond their means or not really
Speaker 4: having access to means and resources like they do. They
Speaker 4: love throwing that shit at the Black Housewives. And so
Speaker 4: you know that that exists.
Speaker 3: Britt. You're a person who was looking at Ferraris the
Speaker 3: week before.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You live in this beautiful
Speaker 4: home with this Rose Royce, suv pay the money to
Speaker 4: feed the damn people. When you see them sitting there,
Speaker 4: there's no way that people should have been sitting there hungry,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So there's that second of all.
Speaker 4: The reason that her having that conversation about the bare
Speaker 4: naked launched in Land is because we don't know brit
Speaker 4: as a person.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: We've seen brit in what two scenes with her family,
Speaker 4: and then we've seen the totality of what we've been
Speaker 4: present presented to on behalf of brit in the shows,
Speaker 4: her in conflict with Kenya and her in conflict with
Speaker 4: the women as a residual element.
Speaker 3: Of her conflict with Kenya. That's all we got.
Speaker 4: So when she said when she offered the intention of
Speaker 4: the event over verbally to Kelly and them, I believe
Speaker 4: it was Kelly and Shemiah at that point in the show,
Speaker 4: it didn't land because we don't know her tone when
Speaker 4: she's being sincere.
Speaker 3: We don't know her tone when she's being fake.
Speaker 4: We just know her arguing or defending herself against whatever odds, right,
Speaker 4: And so I think that's why it didn't land. Right
Speaker 4: on top of her simply not having her shit together
Speaker 4: with that event, it's really that sible.
Speaker 3: She just didn't have her shit together, so we don't
Speaker 3: know her. You don't have your shit together. That's not
Speaker 3: landing well with us.
Speaker 4: This is episode twelve and we saw Brit tail her castmates. Well,
Speaker 4: I just feel like, you guys haven't got a chance
Speaker 4: to really get to know me yet, and so I
Speaker 4: wanted to.
Speaker 3: Have this event.
Speaker 4: That's a problem if we twelve episodes in and reintroducing
Speaker 4: a new housewife to the series, that's a problem with
Speaker 4: the deliverables from brit You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think she got what it takes. I'm not hating
Speaker 3: on her.
Speaker 4: I don't want to see necessarily her not come back
Speaker 4: or whatever. I would just love to see her dig
Speaker 4: deeper at least lean your loubutin all the way into
Speaker 4: the villain role. If you're gonna be a villain and
Speaker 4: you're really gonna be on here giving these women hell,
Speaker 4: give them hell. You know what I'm saying, like, do it,
Speaker 4: Just be upfront with it, because the act is not
Speaker 4: landing well with the viewers based on.
Speaker 3: What I see.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's she's a hard one to connect with. I
Speaker 5: made a YouTube video just recapping like the first couple
Speaker 5: of episodes of Real Housewives of Atlanta, and Britt is
Speaker 5: very familiar to me, Like, I know a person just
Speaker 5: like Brit.
Speaker 6: They've had some.
Speaker 5: Really bad experiences with women. She's a beautiful girl, and
Speaker 5: people try to eat me up about this because, like
Speaker 5: I said, Britt is a beautiful girl. She's probably used
Speaker 5: to women treating her badly because they're jealous of her.
Speaker 5: And everybody was like, well, you're acting like everybody else
Speaker 5: on the cast is ugly. I'm not saying that, but
Speaker 5: some people internalize that jealousy, like really really deeply, and
Speaker 5: Brit seems like one of those people. She wanted to
Speaker 5: be liked in this group, and then she she wasn't
Speaker 5: by the person that I think she really wanted approval from,
Speaker 5: which was Kenya.
Speaker 6: She didn't have that right away, and so.
Speaker 5: That soured her for the rest, you know, the rest
Speaker 5: of the time there. I talked about how she is
Speaker 5: coming off really unlikable, but that I didn't want to
Speaker 5: see her go because she actually drove a lot of
Speaker 5: the big drama at the beginning of the season. Now
Speaker 5: that didn't really go anywhere. It's you know, there's another
Speaker 5: story going on. We've kind of gotten away from that,
Speaker 5: but she was a talk of the town before this aired,
Speaker 5: and for the first few episodes. That is that is
Speaker 5: a good housewife. Whether you like her as a person
Speaker 5: or not, that's somebody that deserves a spot on the show.
Speaker 5: And to your point, though, Dustin, sorry, we are not
Speaker 5: getting to know her personally, right so on top of
Speaker 5: it already just being hard to connect with her, she's
Speaker 5: very embraceive immediately you say something to her. I think
Speaker 5: people like have called on she doesn't know how to read,
Speaker 5: so she just is like glow. She goes yeah, she
Speaker 5: goes for the jugular, similar to Marlowe. Right, Like Marlowe's
Speaker 5: very nasty because she didn't know how to read. Brit
Speaker 5: does the same thing. And I think showing her when
Speaker 5: we see her with her family, those are actually the
Speaker 5: moments when I'm like, this girl isn't bad, Like I
Speaker 5: can see where there's some likability there, but there isn't
Speaker 5: enough of that. And so to your point with us
Speaker 5: like having to be reintroduced to her or getting to
Speaker 5: know her this far in, people have already made up
Speaker 5: their minds unfortunately, and like, I don't know that she
Speaker 5: has enough time to turn to change the tide of
Speaker 5: public opinion.
Speaker 4: One more point before we move on. I'm sorry those
Speaker 4: that's my second time jumping on your feet.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, bro, but section of the stories.
Speaker 4: Right, My thing is people can look at brit being
Speaker 4: the victor in the her versus Kenya situation, right, because
Speaker 4: let's be clear, Kenya is off the show and britt
Speaker 4: Edie is forever gonna be known as a person that
Speaker 4: got Kenya. Some people might say ran Kenya off the show,
Speaker 4: anthy at its best, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 4: but she is that the problem with that, right, those
Speaker 4: are the biggest shoes you can possibly have to feel
Speaker 4: as a person who is joining a cast of a
Speaker 4: show at season sixteen and responsible for the termination of
Speaker 4: a character as relevant, as impactful, and as multifaceted and
Speaker 4: as fruitful as Kenya Moore was, because now you got
Speaker 4: to show and prove okay, you won that battle, but
Speaker 4: now what's up? What else you got? And unfortunately Bridge
Speaker 4: Sparkler fizzle right on out. So when it's ken your
Speaker 4: left and we all been sitting there with our poems up,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, like what is this?
Speaker 4: And so I think that that's it, get the motherfucker
Speaker 4: off the show if that's what you're on.
Speaker 3: But you have to be able to deliver on the
Speaker 3: other side of that in order to.
Speaker 4: Justify such a huge movement within the show and within
Speaker 4: the makings of the show.
Speaker 3: And I just don't feel like we've gotten that yet.
Speaker 1: Child.
Speaker 2: We are just getting started. This is Reality Team with
Speaker 2: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
Speaker 2: the show. All good points. I'm gonna pick up where
Speaker 2: you left off and then go back to Jackson's point
Speaker 2: when you talked about brit situation, and the situation obviously
Speaker 2: was Kenya showed images of Brit at her hair salon
Speaker 2: SPA event, and it was the network's decision to remove
Speaker 2: Kenya for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: I said this the moment I learned this happened.
Speaker 2: So similar to any industry, right, the reality industry is
Speaker 2: very small.
Speaker 1: I hear everything, I know everything before.
Speaker 2: You guys know about it. I don't talk about it
Speaker 2: because I'm not messy like y'all think.
Speaker 1: I am. Okay, I kill myself, I'm fun for shame.
Speaker 1: It's the difference. Hilarious girl by I will say this.
Speaker 1: I will say this.
Speaker 2: The moment I learned what happened at Kenya's Harris SPA situation,
Speaker 2: I obviously was like, that wasn't great.
Speaker 1: I think anybody breathing said that wasn't great.
Speaker 2: When I learned that Kenya Moore was not allowed to
Speaker 2: continue filming, I said this, if I was britt Edie,
Speaker 2: I would have fought for Kenya to stay because I
Speaker 2: would have set to Brit you will be known as
Speaker 2: the girl that got Kenya off the show.
Speaker 1: And because Kenya is a lover hater.
Speaker 2: Kenya is such a polarizing legend in this field that
Speaker 2: you don't want your legacy, Britt to be the girl
Speaker 2: that got Kenya.
Speaker 1: Off the show.
Speaker 2: Because the audience love them or hate them, the audience
Speaker 2: is only going.
Speaker 1: To ride for those they are familiar with.
Speaker 2: And when it comes to Kenya, you are right, Dustin,
Speaker 2: those are no one Listen. No one can fill Kenya
Speaker 2: moore shoes.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. No one can.
Speaker 2: So the unfortunate thing about what's going on with Britt
Speaker 2: and I do feel bad for Britt. I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 2: I feel bad for brit because unfortunately she will forever
Speaker 2: be known as the girl that got Kenya off the show,
Speaker 2: not that it was her decision. It was not her decision.
Speaker 1: It was not not not not not not her.
Speaker 2: Decision, Right, Claudia, if you're able to hop on hop
Speaker 2: on land when you land. So the thing is this,
Speaker 2: We're all looking at Britt and Carlos are king concluded,
Speaker 2: We're all looking at Britt, like, okay, they show us something.
Speaker 2: Kenya's off the show. You know, she got removed. It
Speaker 2: was not BRIT's choice.
Speaker 1: Don't blame her. It was not her choice. Suck, But
Speaker 1: it's sort of the.
Speaker 2: It's sort of the world in which she now has
Speaker 2: to live in. And as I'm watching the season, I said,
Speaker 2: in episode one in the premiere, y'all can watch it,
Speaker 2: I said, I love Britt, I love Kelly.
Speaker 1: Those are the two I got my eyes on.
Speaker 2: And then as I start to watch this season, I said,
Speaker 2: hopefully is the top dog now And I'm being very honest,
Speaker 2: and this is this is, this is what it is Brit. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: it's not living up to the expectations that I think
Speaker 2: everybody have for her.
Speaker 1: And I think.
Speaker 2: Britt should have really did a reset and focused on, like,
Speaker 2: what is my narrative moving forward? I feel bad for
Speaker 2: brit And I'm gonna say this for real, for re
Speaker 2: for real, because at the end of the day, you
Speaker 2: like Brittain, you don't like her.
Speaker 3: She's new.
Speaker 1: She has no idea how this ship works.
Speaker 2: And she unfortunately has to live with the fact that
Speaker 2: that will forever be her identity. And I think in
Speaker 2: the bubble of this show, she is trying to live
Speaker 2: up to the old days of Atlanta shopping for a car,
Speaker 2: the differences, Baby Kim Zosiak drove off the lot with it,
Speaker 2: about drove off the lot with it, my girls on
Speaker 2: none of my seasons when car shopping, and then then
Speaker 2: zero out the worst of Ninny Leeks.
Speaker 1: Live up the garage. It's the motherfucking clubs I got
Speaker 1: look up the garage.
Speaker 2: Don't talk about of us, talk about now sell that
Speaker 2: to say. And then when I see her event at
Speaker 2: the country club, I live in a country club.
Speaker 5: And do your neighbors know you?
Speaker 1: Biglove, absolutely absolute? They know who I am.
Speaker 2: I got my golf cart and I drived down the
Speaker 2: neighborhood and do the Miss America wave because I want
Speaker 2: them to know there's a black man in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: And y'all gonna know it's me. It's not real conversation.
Speaker 2: My neighbors know who I am, the community knows who
Speaker 2: I am, the hoa knows who I am.
Speaker 1: I live my view.
Speaker 2: I can walk to the golf course in my backyard.
Speaker 2: I know how this works. So when Britt is showing
Speaker 2: this off, it's hard to digest because it's sort of like,
Speaker 2: is this your reality? And that's where Britt. Now, this
Speaker 2: is where BRIT's gonna have to take the onus. I
Speaker 2: gave her a pass. Now, Britt, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: take the onus for this if you're going to talk
Speaker 2: about your shape where follow the life of Kimberlee, Noel
Speaker 2: Kardashian and I would have had gift gifts for everybody,
Speaker 2: not just food. I wouldna have food for sure. If
Speaker 2: you can't afford the chicken and all that. Do charcuterie board,
Speaker 2: do meatballs? Do sliders? Do something?
Speaker 1: Have shapewear for everybody in there.
Speaker 2: I would have war shape where you've Kim Kardashian had
Speaker 2: a skims event in Miami, and she wore skims as
Speaker 2: she was parading around the party.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the polka dot dress with
Speaker 1: the feathers.
Speaker 2: I don't care to see you guys play golf in
Speaker 2: in dresses.
Speaker 1: I wanted to.
Speaker 2: See you be the model of your company. And that's
Speaker 2: where Britt, You're gonna have to take my onus for that.
Speaker 2: You talking to your team about the girls was supposed
Speaker 2: to eat it. I'm gonna tell you what I got
Speaker 2: from it. BRIT's focus was feeding the cast and not
Speaker 2: anyone else, because she knew that if I don't feed
Speaker 2: the cast or reading the confessionals. But girl, they read
Speaker 2: you anyway.
Speaker 4: They haven't event just for the cast, like Porsche deal
Speaker 4: with her pamper by Porscha launch.
Speaker 3: Don't invite others to the event.
Speaker 4: If the if you have to sacrifice an element or
Speaker 4: you know, an element of the event or the celebration,
Speaker 4: something that's critically important as fucking food.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You see each one of the housewives, even Cynthia, my girl,
Speaker 4: we love you Cynthia.
Speaker 3: Even Cynthia was like, well I can split my salmon
Speaker 3: with somebody.
Speaker 4: They started talking shit when they found out that she
Speaker 4: only had food for them and not everybody else, which
Speaker 4: as they should, right. So you just have to be
Speaker 4: a little bit more strategic and preventative, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, when you're planning out what you do, You're
Speaker 4: absolutely right. Her dress was just as tight as the shape.
Speaker 4: Where while you ain't have the bear make it on,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, you could have just had
Speaker 4: it on, you know what I mean, and done something
Speaker 4: totally different. I will give her credit for wanting to
Speaker 4: have an over the top event, you know, we associate
Speaker 4: that with the housewives of any city, you know.
Speaker 3: Big deal events or whatever.
Speaker 4: So there was something charmingly misaligned about them.
Speaker 3: Golfing and stilettos and.
Speaker 4: You know all this, you know, all this fan fare, right,
Speaker 4: but that can only work when there are real deal,
Speaker 4: substantive elements in the rest of the situation, and they
Speaker 4: just something weren't there.
Speaker 3: So Britt, you missed the mark, baby, you missed it.
Speaker 5: Have some prototypes next time, Like she gave the cast
Speaker 5: those you know, she went to Macy to the missing section,
Speaker 5: got some shape where took the tags off, and then
Speaker 5: gifted that. Why not have prototypes of the rest of
Speaker 5: your line at your events, like we need to see
Speaker 5: that you're selling to an audience.
Speaker 6: But that's what I mean.
Speaker 5: I feel like sometimes these girls, they come up with
Speaker 5: these business ideas and it feels like it's almost on
Speaker 5: the fly, just so that they can have an excuse
Speaker 5: to like have an extravagant event, because that doesn't that
Speaker 5: doesn't track a woman who was like really successful allegedly
Speaker 5: with an insurance company, and he've been thinking about this
Speaker 5: business since you started that insurance company. You should have
Speaker 5: prototypes by now.
Speaker 6: We would have been able to.
Speaker 5: Forgive the golfing and to letos. We wouldn't have been
Speaker 5: able to forgive the food. I'll never forgive that, but
Speaker 5: we would have been able to forgive something. How do
Speaker 5: you have prototypes there, or like a fashion show or
Speaker 5: something like show us the product line.
Speaker 6: It was just yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a miss No, it was. It was a
Speaker 1: missed opportunity. And and you're right, listen. The sad part.
Speaker 2: About reality TV stars nowadays, not all, but some. It's
Speaker 2: exactly what Jasmine Destina pointing out. Some of these new
Speaker 2: girls are just trying so hard to be the moment
Speaker 2: instead of allowing the moment to be down. And that's
Speaker 2: why the greatest new reality star of twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: goals to Angela Oakley because she really is herself. And
Speaker 2: Angela could sell cheese on a fucking hot dog and
Speaker 2: I'm buying it at Costco. I Angela can sell me
Speaker 2: anything that I have, I would just buying support.
Speaker 3: Her any book. I'm glad you said Costco because a
Speaker 3: lot of it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll have an event at at my country club
Speaker 2: and make sure all my neighbors have something to walk
Speaker 2: away with.
Speaker 1: Job selling it seriously.
Speaker 2: It's the reason why Porscha has a multi million dollar
Speaker 2: business because you support people, you feel like you have
Speaker 2: a connection with right. And it's the reason why Candy
Speaker 2: Burrs is hugely successful in everything she does, because when
Speaker 2: you like.
Speaker 1: Somebody, you support it.
Speaker 2: And when it comes to these new girls, you gotta
Speaker 2: stop trying to follow the leader and instead be your
Speaker 2: own person. Just I tell all new girls this, be yourself,
Speaker 2: but also be honest about what you're going through.
Speaker 1: The fact that a Isela Oakley.
Speaker 2: Admit it, she is two million dollars in that, no
Speaker 2: one will ever talk about that nowadays from riality television.
Speaker 1: No one will the fact that she's honest about it.
Speaker 2: She's out of the fact that I have this realtor
Speaker 2: is my house is now slashed back to the what
Speaker 2: I paid for and she's walking away without a profit.
Speaker 2: That is normal this climate of selling homes and whatever
Speaker 2: the market value is low.
Speaker 1: We're all suffering through that. But she's honest about it.
Speaker 2: So again, you guys got to stop being stop trying
Speaker 2: to like be what the show used to be, and
Speaker 2: just be yourself. And all of you girls need to
Speaker 2: study Angela Oakley if you're going to dring reality TV
Speaker 2: starting today moving forward, because she did it right and
Speaker 2: that's exactly why she is now the fan favorite.
Speaker 5: I say, don't study her too hard, though, because then
Speaker 5: we're gonna get carbon copies of Angela.
Speaker 6: Everybody an't able, right, Like I.
Speaker 5: Think Angela you hit the nail on the head sheets
Speaker 5: so much herself, and that's why it's working for her.
Speaker 5: I think with Britt, Britt wants to belong so badly
Speaker 5: that she's over doing it. She's over selling it, and
Speaker 5: that's why it's not landing with people. Angela fantastic and
Speaker 5: being two million dollars in debt, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's not anything anybody can like make as a dig because.
Speaker 6: In the words of Karen Huger, you have to well,
Speaker 6: she said, you have.
Speaker 3: To make oh millions, absolutely.
Speaker 5: So I do like that she was really open with that.
Speaker 5: She was open about her husband being faithful in the past,
Speaker 5: like she's she's happy to put a lot of things
Speaker 5: on the table. I said at the beginning of the
Speaker 5: season though, that I do think that Angela wasn't being
Speaker 5: as upfront with some of her familial issues because her
Speaker 5: not knowing that her daughter got married and kind of
Speaker 5: having to hear from other family members. That seemed to me,
Speaker 5: I was like, something about that doesn't sit right. And
Speaker 5: then even that conversation that she had with her mom,
Speaker 5: who I just learned today passed away, so rest in
Speaker 5: peace to her mother.
Speaker 6: So sorry to hear that.
Speaker 5: Leaven the conversation with her mom, I'm like, there's some
Speaker 5: other kind of deeper issues within her family that she's
Speaker 5: she's not talking about on the show, So when we're
Speaker 5: hearing these conversations with her family members, it's like something
Speaker 5: is missing. But other than that, I have no no
Speaker 5: issues with Angela and Carlos. You said something earlier about
Speaker 5: like with britt getting Kenya off the show, and like
Speaker 5: the audience will write who they are familiar with. I
Speaker 5: think the audience is going to ride with who they like,
Speaker 5: right because Pat the table has been turned and it
Speaker 5: had been Angela that got Kenya.
Speaker 6: Kicked off the show.
Speaker 5: I don't think people would like people would still care.
Speaker 5: I mean, people would still like her.
Speaker 1: She's just what she's right, But it's because he's delivering exactly.
Speaker 2: So No, I think the mistake that Britt made because
Speaker 2: even when so Jazz, when when Britt was talking to
Speaker 2: her mom about the images King and displayed me, Dustin
Speaker 2: and Claudia talked about it, and none of us felt
Speaker 2: felt any any none of us felt the connection there
Speaker 2: because even in the conversation she had but her mom,
Speaker 2: it was like, I need to understand from you and
Speaker 2: your mother what you're what what you were going through
Speaker 2: at that time to make that decision of being a
Speaker 2: webcam girl and your mom being somebody in your life, Like,
Speaker 2: let's really talk about it. So I do agree with you,
Speaker 2: You're gonna ride for who you like. And that's why
Speaker 2: I'm saying Britt has to take responsibility for what she's
Speaker 2: not giving because I don't fill any connection with her
Speaker 2: right now. I started this season off being like, Oh, Britt,
Speaker 2: is that girl? Watch my, watch my recaps. I would Sayrit,
Speaker 2: and then I'm like, Okay, Britt, I gotta see more.
Speaker 2: I gotta see more. And this episode should have been
Speaker 2: BRIT's redemption episode because to the producer's credit, they actually
Speaker 2: followed your business. And if Brit doesn't have a website
Speaker 2: that's up today where I can buy the shapewear.
Speaker 4: Because you don't have to have a product. It's smart
Speaker 4: to but you don't have to. You don't have to
Speaker 4: have an event for that. Brick could have had a
Speaker 4: big event just for the cast. Like, listen, shit's been
Speaker 4: fucked up. I want you to get to know me.
Speaker 4: So here's an event we're gonna do X, Y Z
Speaker 4: or whatever. The point of this event it is for
Speaker 4: us to connect. I want to get to know you.
Speaker 4: That each more, shit was fucked up before, let's do
Speaker 4: it. It didn't have to be an event for a thing
Speaker 4: she's launching, you know.
Speaker 6: What I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it don't have there's no formula as to how
Speaker 4: to be a great real housewife.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: There are things that we've seen and we appreciating other
Speaker 4: people who are performed well in that capacity, right, but
Speaker 4: there is no true formula. Originality is the only thing
Speaker 4: that we see as a through line in success in
Speaker 4: a housewives space, So just be original. We didn't need
Speaker 4: to see her have an event ricky mistake maybe, but like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just think if you're the person
Speaker 4: who I just think you should have understood the assignment
Speaker 4: a little bit more, you know. And I don't think
Speaker 4: people are unfairly judging her. I think that if you're
Speaker 4: going to step into those shoes as the who got
Speaker 4: this big person off the show, you need to deliver
Speaker 4: with something else.
Speaker 3: On the other end of that. That's simple.
Speaker 5: If she comes back for enough oh sorry, go ahead, Carlos.
Speaker 5: Now if she comes back for another season, though, I
Speaker 5: think she's smart enough to take some notes and look
Speaker 5: at what she did wrong this season and come back
Speaker 5: with something different.
Speaker 6: Now are we gonna like that something different next season?
Speaker 5: Jerry still out, But I think Britt is if nothing else,
Speaker 5: I think that she will be able to see what
Speaker 5: she did wrong this season and try to do something
Speaker 5: else next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because at the end of the day, she has
Speaker 2: she's a beautiful woman, and she has she has the
Speaker 2: personality to make you want her and listen. It's okay
Speaker 2: to not know how to read there's a couple of
Speaker 2: girls who survive a long time that did not know
Speaker 2: how to read. It's a bonus if you do, but
Speaker 2: if you don't, that's fine, but you have to be
Speaker 2: able to give the audience something. I did love. So Brett,
Speaker 2: hear me out. I did love it. You admitted to
Speaker 2: have a BBL. And these are things that I, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna move on what I
Speaker 2: was expecting of Brit this season.
Speaker 1: I wanted Brit to.
Speaker 2: Be that that beautiful new girl to Atlanta that admit
Speaker 2: on her own, like, look back.
Speaker 1: In the day, your girl had a BBL.
Speaker 2: I got it because I was around these girls with
Speaker 2: big booties and I wanted one. I did webcam because
Speaker 2: x Y and Z reason. Because the thing is everybody
Speaker 2: roots for the underdog. And if Brit would have come
Speaker 2: forward with all of her past mistakes and learned from
Speaker 2: them and told us about it and said look at me, Navich,
Speaker 2: we all would be on her side. So I did
Speaker 2: like the admits of her admitting the BBL, but I
Speaker 2: do want to see more from her now.
Speaker 1: I want to move on.
Speaker 2: To Shmia versus Drew so Drew, Soadora confront of Shmia
Speaker 2: for remixing the story to Portia about Drew telling Angela
Speaker 2: and Shmia that the music she's making with Dennis would
Speaker 2: pay for Polar's college tuition. By the way, Juice of
Speaker 2: Door album it's a ten out of ten. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say this and I take it back. It's his second
Speaker 2: best R and B album off this year, next to
Speaker 2: Coco Jones rain Drops No Jazmine rain Drop. Do yourself
Speaker 2: a favor, download the album. There's this song on her album,
Speaker 2: call I did It for Me. I played it twenty
Speaker 2: seven times on Friday because and Dennis McKinley wrote the lyrics.
Speaker 1: He wrote the.
Speaker 2: Song, Oh shut off to Dennis, it's great.
Speaker 1: I like good Girl Turned Babbage something like whatever. It's
Speaker 1: all that jazz. It's a great album, Okay. I like
Speaker 1: Shamia versus Drew.
Speaker 2: To me, I've seen better reads between Monique, Monique and
Speaker 2: and Porsche. I mean shut up notice. So yeah, if
Speaker 2: y'all haves today, y'all gonna get this.
Speaker 1: Series six. It's Amana, episode nine. Thank you Monique, my Nique.
Speaker 2: I know it's all in here, babies, all in the brain.
Speaker 2: Season six, episode nine, The Savannah Trip watch it.
Speaker 1: So Monique my Nique was Niini's.
Speaker 2: Friend who got read by Phedra and she said, on
Speaker 2: Phil Red and then she tried to read She tried
Speaker 2: to read Porsche at this bar because Porsche was like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, your husband was dating Candy and Pedra
Speaker 2: and the Monique Nique said, we're about your husband. It
Speaker 2: was a week read. I'd of liked to read Patree Jewishubia.
Speaker 2: I thought it was lackluster. It did nothing for me.
Speaker 2: I love you, Drew, I love I thought it was
Speaker 2: blackluster flat.
Speaker 6: It felt flat. And you want to know what's interesting
Speaker 6: about Drew.
Speaker 5: I have notoriously been very very hard on Drew, especially
Speaker 5: on her late one.
Speaker 6: I did call her late and she is, you know,
Speaker 6: she's getting better. Yeah, but she's still a couple of
Speaker 6: minutes past.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jasmine, ladies and gentlemen, okay.
Speaker 6: But I have been enjoying her a little bit more.
Speaker 5: And she looked phenomenal on your interview, Like, but I've
Speaker 5: never I've never not said that she was like, she's
Speaker 5: a beautiful bro. And I've always maintained that she just
Speaker 5: gives actor all the time, and she does have very
Speaker 5: whack reads, very rehearsed, but.
Speaker 6: Shamia is they're on the same level, because what what Shamia?
Speaker 1: Like, what was that? It?
Speaker 6: Shi? She has so much potential, Like I'm.
Speaker 5: Very disappointed in how her balloon is just deflating. Like
Speaker 5: she has every component to be like the Queen Bee
Speaker 5: of Atlanta. I thought this is we were setting her
Speaker 5: up to be that, but she is so comfortable playing
Speaker 5: the back, like she's so comfortable like not taking charge.
Speaker 6: Like if she had more of.
Speaker 5: If she even acted a little bit more like Britt,
Speaker 5: Like if Brit had what Shamia had, Britt would be it,
Speaker 5: Brit would be it. Shamiah has every component, but she
Speaker 5: doesn't have the right attitude to really take over the
Speaker 5: franchise and be like the Queen Bee.
Speaker 6: And yeah, her read she's.
Speaker 5: Just so crass to me sometimes, like I'm not I like,
Speaker 5: I think Shamia is a sweet girl. She's fallen flat
Speaker 5: from me though on this season. I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 5: to you, I'm not.
Speaker 4: The problem is what we saw from Shamiah at BRIT's
Speaker 4: bearing negative event was such a sharp contrast from what
Speaker 4: we saw at Shamia during her birthday when all the
Speaker 4: women had on white and she brought them up to
Speaker 4: that sitting conversational room in her house upstairs, and they
Speaker 4: sat down and she kind of led and guided that conversation.
Speaker 4: That's the Shmiah that felt good we were watching the show, right,
Speaker 4: that was the Shemir that felt as if there had
Speaker 4: been in advancement or some progression in confidence and in
Speaker 4: showing ship.
Speaker 3: As a housewife.
Speaker 4: That's the Shemir that we were enjoying what we saw
Speaker 4: at Bridge bearing Nekeadi event, the barking, and honestly, even
Speaker 4: if they did have good reads quote unquote, in this conversation,
Speaker 4: it was a conversation about fucking nothing. They don't have
Speaker 4: a reason to be mad at each other, okay, And
Speaker 4: so that's why we're all grasping for Strawson. I try
Speaker 4: to make that shit work makes sense, or find something
Speaker 4: to be attracted to or to enjoying that conversation.
Speaker 3: They don't need to be arguing. It's that simple.
Speaker 4: Drew did not say that she was paying for Pj's
Speaker 4: college in a nasty way.
Speaker 3: She threw a jab, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 3: was not well intentioned, but it was a jab.
Speaker 4: Nonetheless, and Porsa's daughter was mentioned in this space anytime
Speaker 4: you even say a child's name.
Speaker 3: You are quote unquote talking about my child, and now
Speaker 3: it's fucking up, and so it's on. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I think that's kind of what they took after that,
Speaker 4: But they just don't have a reason to be arguing,
Speaker 4: and that's why it fell flat for us. Shemiah, run
Speaker 4: the show, hold court, be the girl, the woman that
Speaker 4: you are everything like Jasmine, you just beautifully illustrated how
Speaker 4: Shamiyah has all the tools.
Speaker 3: You got everything it takes. Arguing with Drew, turning your back, yelling,
Speaker 3: not being.
Speaker 4: Composed and poised like all of those things kind of
Speaker 4: lessen your score essentially, right, because we're keeping scorering that
Speaker 4: conversation of who's ahead of who? It lessn't our score.
Speaker 4: I just think it was beneath what we were initially
Speaker 4: presented with from her. Take us back to that season,
Speaker 4: get these ladies back together and that room at your
Speaker 4: house and sit down up there and talk about some
Speaker 4: real shit and run the show.
Speaker 3: That's what we want to see from Shemiah.
Speaker 2: So I want to say this, and I said it
Speaker 2: before y'all tried to read me. Not you does some
Speaker 2: jazza meaning some of the people in the chat. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say this and I take it back. The reason
Speaker 2: why everybody's find of love with Shamia the first episode
Speaker 2: is because there is nothing like seeing the full life
Speaker 2: of a housewife, the fullness of their lives. To see Shamillah,
Speaker 2: who is strikingly beautiful, has an amazing body, We had
Speaker 2: no idea share all this wealth, and but most importantly
Speaker 2: we saw her husband. We saw her husband, and we
Speaker 2: were enthralled with like, oh my gosh, we get to
Speaker 2: see Gerald.
Speaker 1: He does what hvac. Oh my gosh. These are the.
Speaker 2: Aspirational things that the audience of three of us included,
Speaker 2: we want to see as we're sitting out watching people
Speaker 2: that arguably oftentimes have a better life than us in
Speaker 2: terms of like the showmanship of it all. Right, I
Speaker 2: think what's missing is this is that was episode twelve.
Speaker 2: We just watched this past Sunday. We have to seen
Speaker 2: Gerald since the first episode. And that's a huge disappointment
Speaker 2: in Shemiah's storyline because when she and Porsche were going
Speaker 2: through it, Porsche, her ex husband soon to be ex husband, Gerald,
Speaker 2: and Shemiah would go on a couple of trips singing.
Speaker 4: In the jewelry store and ship remembers, and Porscha was crying.
Speaker 3: Her and Simon both.
Speaker 4: Simon was crying, just like when Esther Rowe had dropped
Speaker 4: that punch bowl and she said, damn, damn, damn.
Speaker 3: He was crying right up.
Speaker 4: There, same tears, same tear stains, same one, same tear
Speaker 4: drops on his pillow, same one.
Speaker 1: With the point is he was there.
Speaker 3: He was crying. That's the point. That's the point.
Speaker 1: He was there.
Speaker 5: He did.
Speaker 1: Michael Evans and I'm going to shift.
Speaker 3: Here when your young.
Speaker 5: I I personally, I don't mind not seeing her husband. Honestly,
Speaker 5: I think seeing him in the first episode wasn't enough.
Speaker 5: We know he exists, he's a real person. The rumor
Speaker 5: is that she didn't join the show for a while
Speaker 5: because he didn't want to film. So I think, knowing
Speaker 5: that going in, I'm okay with not seeing him super often.
Speaker 5: That might be a personal preference.
Speaker 1: No, so I was gonna say this with it too.
Speaker 1: So they were going couple of trips together.
Speaker 2: I would have loved to have seen Smia go home
Speaker 2: and talk to Gerald about what she and Portsche are
Speaker 2: going through as a friendship.
Speaker 1: Because he's privy to it. No, so, because it's not so.
Speaker 1: I want to be clear.
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with Jerald's personal story. I
Speaker 2: can give you shits about that. But when it comes
Speaker 2: to the real hospitals at Atlanta, a lot of us
Speaker 2: love Nini day Wine, but we love Nini with extra
Speaker 2: credit on her report card because of Greg Leagus. It
Speaker 2: was something to bounce off of. We love Cynthia, but baby,
Speaker 2: the extra credit was Peter Thomas up Pedra.
Speaker 1: The extra credit was Apollo. We love Candy.
Speaker 2: When time came on, Mama Joyce came up, we were like,
Speaker 2: Okayndy is the start of the season, let's have her conversation.
Speaker 1: Porsche.
Speaker 2: The same thing when it came to like to seeing
Speaker 2: her and Cordela first season. You understood Porscha Moore by
Speaker 2: what we sent at the top of this lie based
Speaker 2: on her treatment with you and vice versa. So the
Speaker 2: thing with Shamiah, I will I think Joel would have said, hey,
Speaker 2: when you go to BRIT's shape or a party, do
Speaker 2: this or I woulted to have done that, and I
Speaker 2: think that would have helped Shamilla more. But to not
Speaker 2: see the fullness of someone's story, it will be the
Speaker 2: deficit of how people view you.
Speaker 1: But I do agree I don't care to see well, no,
Speaker 1: I'm lying. I do want to see Jerald s h back.
Speaker 1: I would love to see that. I would love to
Speaker 1: see that.
Speaker 2: But we then I get that the moment we did
Speaker 2: get that people have been waited on is the return
Speaker 2: of the mac okay.
Speaker 6: So she definitely be lyon. You lied to me Lyon.
Speaker 1: So let's get into the return of Phaedra parts.
Speaker 2: I want you to the start first, and I'll save
Speaker 2: my opinion of Pha's return. So Phaedra is now back
Speaker 2: as a full time housewife on the Real Houseworks in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: This is episode twelve. She came in with Porsche in this.
Speaker 2: Episode, Gucci down to the socks and I would love
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on it.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Dustin.
Speaker 3: I was gonna be a gentleman and give it to
Speaker 3: my girl Jasmine, which.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Yeah, sure, I don't have much.
Speaker 5: I wasn't excited about seeing Fedra return, but I'm gonna
Speaker 5: say my mind was changed actually seeing her on the
Speaker 5: screen because something happened with Porsche that I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: this is kind of entertaining.
Speaker 6: Like I had said before, like I didn't.
Speaker 5: When they show Faedra in the mid season trailer, I
Speaker 5: was just like, she's gonna bring live, She's gonna bring chaos,
Speaker 5: Like it's just gonna be a bunch of like smoke
Speaker 5: and mirrors, and so I wasn't really excited. But then
Speaker 5: seeing her on screen with Porsche, I was like, wait
Speaker 5: a minute, they are entertaining together, and I forgot about
Speaker 5: that part, Like I hadn't seen them together in so
Speaker 5: long that I forgot that they actually are really entertaining together.
Speaker 5: And so I quite enjoyed the scene with her and Porsche.
Speaker 5: I was kind of curious about her verbiage when she
Speaker 5: was talking about how she left the show. I was like,
Speaker 5: why not just say you were fired versus saying you
Speaker 5: left as if it was, you know, a choice that
Speaker 5: you made.
Speaker 6: But other than that, that was my one critique. I
Speaker 6: didn't mind.
Speaker 5: Seeing her with Porsche, and I am very happy to
Speaker 5: say my mind was changed because going into this episode,
Speaker 5: I was just like, YAN didn't care about it, but
Speaker 5: I left it and I said, Okay, I want to
Speaker 5: watch the next episode.
Speaker 3: So on a.
Speaker 4: Positive note, right number one black, you know, good living.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, it's something that I want
Speaker 4: to see, black wealth, black opulence. Seeing her, you know,
Speaker 4: walking that shoe and see that pee on that rug
Speaker 4: when she opened the door. That was great production, great
Speaker 4: shot work from the producers, the camera crew. That's how
Speaker 4: you reintroduce a character as storied, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: as Phaedra to the show.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: As far as her addressing her exit from season nine
Speaker 4: after the reunion, that wasn't nothing but a bunch of syntax,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It was just her her
Speaker 4: choosing and picking and arranging words in a way to
Speaker 4: convince certain message without being direct. So again, wordplay. I
Speaker 4: use language for a living. I saw thee the dice,
Speaker 4: I saw what the do. I could call them dice
Speaker 4: before they stopped rolling, right, I already knew what she
Speaker 4: was doing. So she never said, Hey, I told a
Speaker 4: nasty lie with terrible implications, and I feel bad for
Speaker 4: telling it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. She didn't get that kind
Speaker 3: of accountability. But I will say it was refreshing to
Speaker 3: see her at least address it.
Speaker 4: For years now, we've seen Phaser skate by and do
Speaker 4: everything except addressing what caused her exit. And I think
Speaker 4: that's kind of what felt misaligned. On a positive note,
Speaker 4: the scene with her and Ports her only scene this
Speaker 4: week in the episode, I thought it was so potent, right,
Speaker 4: it was full of energy, full of conversation, full of dialogue.
Speaker 4: But what was she speaking about in that dialogue? You
Speaker 4: already calling somebody a lesbian. You're making lesbian accusations that drew,
Speaker 4: which is exactly what got you in that shit in
Speaker 4: the first place.
Speaker 3: In season nine. You know what I'm saying, you come in.
Speaker 3: What makes the conversation interesting is you being negative?
Speaker 4: You talking shit reading the cast quote unquote, and even
Speaker 4: the fact that the conversation was predicated upon your assessment
Speaker 4: of the players, although it did set things up give
Speaker 4: it to the bones of something to work with, which
Speaker 4: I'm appreciative for, But you have to have value beyond
Speaker 4: that in order to really make your marking this game.
Speaker 3: She sat on married to medicine and didn't do nothing.
Speaker 4: So seeing her now back on the Real Housewives of
Speaker 4: Atlanta felt good because she was much more alive, alert
Speaker 4: for Leavinergy has something to say. It just felt misaligned
Speaker 4: for people like me who watch the show and remember everything,
Speaker 4: because as soon as she.
Speaker 3: Got a guest spot on the Real Housewives of Dubai.
Speaker 4: She was in the president and interview saying how the
Speaker 4: Real Housewives of Atlanta was the Titanic and the sinking
Speaker 4: ship and all these other things. But now she's right
Speaker 4: back over there in her interview saying I'm happy to
Speaker 4: be home where I belong and so pro Real Housewives
Speaker 4: of Atlanta. When things did not go as she thought,
Speaker 4: I'm assuming that she had planned on her extent at
Speaker 4: married to medicine.
Speaker 3: I don't hate Fador. I don't know her personally.
Speaker 4: I never was a fan of what she brought to
Speaker 4: the show, but it felt familiar and that felt good,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. The familiarity of her on
Speaker 4: the show felt good, and we did see more energy
Speaker 4: from her and from Portia in that scene than we
Speaker 4: have seen all seasons.
Speaker 3: So let's see what happens.
Speaker 4: But again, I want to stress as far as her
Speaker 4: addressing what happened with season nine, which we all can
Speaker 4: now collectively move forward from, right, because there was some
Speaker 4: sort of I'm not even gonna say, addressing her acknowledging
Speaker 4: the end of her performance on the Real Housewives of
Speaker 4: Atlanta from seasons three to season nine, it was syntax. Literally,
Speaker 4: it was just syntax, her moving words around to create
Speaker 4: a certain statement and acknowledge it.
Speaker 3: But let's just move on. That's how I feel we can.
Speaker 4: Just move on from it and just experience her in
Speaker 4: season sixteen. That's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 5: You said something about like she has to be something
Speaker 5: more than just like bringing romors and stuff, more.
Speaker 3: Than countenance, more than this. You got to do more
Speaker 3: than that.
Speaker 5: I think that's what audiences are looking for from Phaedria. Like,
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone was wanting her to come back
Speaker 5: on the show so that we can get a whole
Speaker 5: bunch of her personal life, because I feel like at
Speaker 5: this point, we know we're not getting that she was
Speaker 5: all married to medicine.
Speaker 6: She had that, you know, the little stint with the guy.
Speaker 5: That's that's as much as we're gonna get from phaedr.
Speaker 5: I think people look for her for the mess, for
Speaker 5: the shadiness, to be a bone carrier or bone collector,
Speaker 5: if you will. So I think that's like when when
Speaker 5: she was on the screen and she was giving her
Speaker 5: assessment of everybody, I was like, this, now, depending on.
Speaker 6: How you are as a person, this is what a
Speaker 6: lot of the audience is.
Speaker 5: Looking for somebody to come in and have, Like, you know,
Speaker 5: she has a rumor about all of the ladies on
Speaker 5: the cast.
Speaker 6: But that's the chaos that I said.
Speaker 5: I wasn't excited to see her bring because I knew
Speaker 5: that's all she was gonna come with, right, But for
Speaker 5: a lot of people, that is entertainment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I'll say this the moment.
Speaker 2: Let me go backwards a bit. When Phedro was on
Speaker 2: marri to Medicine, her first scene on that show. I
Speaker 2: said on My Life with Doctor Heavenly that at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, you could love Faedra hate hear
Speaker 2: you can't deny that when the camera's on, she pops.
Speaker 2: Fadre's meant to be on television. That's why she was
Speaker 2: amazing a trader. She she's a gold star when it
Speaker 2: comes to a television personality. And when she came on
Speaker 2: Married to Medicine, it was her. It was a showroom
Speaker 2: and doctor Jackie was there in Heavenly and she popped.
Speaker 1: She was everything.
Speaker 2: It was like, this woman just deserves to be back
Speaker 2: on television. I did say the same breath that she
Speaker 2: does not belong here. Though love seeing her back on TV,
Speaker 2: Pajia does not belong to Mariti Medicine.
Speaker 1: She doesn't belong on there.
Speaker 2: It was sort of like when you have to go
Speaker 2: to summer camp in order to get to the next level.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, summer school whatever, Yeah, summer school,
Speaker 2: and you have to do this in order to get
Speaker 2: the passing grade. Marrit To medicine was Phaedra Park's summer school. Okay,
Speaker 2: she did not belong there. It didn't work. And the
Speaker 2: words of Johnny Popper and may you rest in peace,
Speaker 2: if love don't fit, you must have quit, right, and
Speaker 2: Phedra didn't fit American medicine. That's why she quit child
Speaker 2: Now the moment Phedra Parks Night of removed, the moment
Speaker 2: Fedra Parks opened that door and her and Porsche had
Speaker 2: that scene, it was one thousand percent the highlight of
Speaker 2: the episode.
Speaker 1: I thoroughly I'm a Jasmine. I did not know what to.
Speaker 2: Expect from Fedra because unfortunately, I didn't see much of
Speaker 2: American medicine from Pedra, right, and we all know that
Speaker 2: Faeda did not fit American medicine. So, as a fan
Speaker 2: of Marathi medicine, when I was watching the episode. I
Speaker 2: was want to like, get to Phedra because I don't
Speaker 2: care about nothing happening in this episode.
Speaker 1: No sha, no shay, y'all.
Speaker 2: Nothing was there until Fadri and Porsche popped up. I
Speaker 2: was sitting on my couch watching the scene. I laughed
Speaker 2: out loud multiple times during this four minute scene when
Speaker 2: she called Kelly a guardian gnome. When she said, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, I don't know Drew like hot dogs. I
Speaker 2: heard she likes tacos.
Speaker 1: When she spoke about brit being.
Speaker 2: Outside, a girl about town, a girl about the country.
Speaker 2: She's hurt thinks I'm with jazzmine the sense of that's
Speaker 2: the sort of level of fun shade depending on the
Speaker 2: person she's talking about, because I'm sure those girls did.
Speaker 1: I think it was fun, and I get it.
Speaker 3: Okay, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm fun to hear that. If I'm a girl, it's
Speaker 1: not fun to hear.
Speaker 2: But what I will say, I walked in with no
Speaker 2: expectations from Adra and Portia scene, and I walked away saying,
Speaker 2: I'm happy she's back on the show.
Speaker 6: I am.
Speaker 2: I am curious to see the rest of the season
Speaker 2: with her. But if I am going to base Phaedria's
Speaker 2: comeback performance. It was an a fucking plus. She she
Speaker 2: looked great and it showed. It's one of those things
Speaker 2: like this, when you are a reality star. Sometimes you
Speaker 2: could be a star, but you're on the wrong platform.
Speaker 2: You're on the wrong platform. That's why when some when
Speaker 2: some girls audition propelled collective, I'm like, you'll be better
Speaker 2: off on Baddy's Africa.
Speaker 6: Now, why specifically Africa.
Speaker 1: Because that's the that's their latest destination.
Speaker 6: So I've never seen I've never seen anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as of today, Battie's there's a Baddies Africa show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like all Stars.
Speaker 4: If my grandmama and my mama and them could watch
Speaker 4: Guiding Light and Young and the Restless and One Life
Speaker 4: to Live, I can watch Jews.
Speaker 6: So more power to you guys.
Speaker 1: I listen.
Speaker 2: I don't watch baddies, but I see the clips on
Speaker 2: Twitter and I'm like, you not a bell, you a baddie.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So Pedra belongs on the real hospitals of Atlanta. I
Speaker 2: she did more in that five minute scene than she
Speaker 2: did the.
Speaker 1: Two seasons of American Medicine.
Speaker 3: Hello, it was I just.
Speaker 1: Gotta be honest, it was. It was a joy to watch.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, I.
Speaker 2: I did see some lightness from Porsche, some Jasmins right
Speaker 2: YouTube Dustin, there was there was there was some lightness
Speaker 2: from Porsches, some comfortability from Porsche because what they I
Speaker 2: don't think people talk about. We have it and I
Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts before we before we end this.
Speaker 2: When the season started, it was obviously Porsche and Kenya.
Speaker 1: You two are the leads of this season.
Speaker 2: Y'all both started same day, same bat channel, season five
Speaker 2: and you two have to run this season.
Speaker 1: And I think Porscha and Kenya understood that that that
Speaker 1: was their assignment.
Speaker 2: And I think when Kenya got removed, I think Porscha
Speaker 2: was like, mm hmm, I got to do all this
Speaker 2: by myself and and that just hit me for some reason.
Speaker 2: I think Porta was like, I got to do this
Speaker 2: all by myself because Kenya is good, great TV and
Speaker 2: Kenya get the party started.
Speaker 3: Especially when she couldn't film the way she wanted to.
Speaker 3: I'm sure she felt that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So when Faifer came in, I think it was
Speaker 2: a huge relief. And you you you saw it in
Speaker 2: the scene if you don't like freaking I understand it.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2: If you don't like Phaedra, I get it. I get it,
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. I am only basing
Speaker 2: this off of the scene. We're gonna base fagers come
Speaker 2: back solely off of the scene.
Speaker 1: We all have to admit it was a ten out
Speaker 1: of a ten.
Speaker 3: It was a good scene. I agree.
Speaker 4: I want to know how you feel about freaking fract
Speaker 4: because I love the analysis that you gave and compare
Speaker 4: in regarding sudden in our sales friendship. Right, what do
Speaker 4: you think about Porsche and Phaser's friendship considering.
Speaker 3: What we know about like off the show, on the show,
Speaker 3: what do you.
Speaker 4: Think about that injusticaeposition to the scene that we got
Speaker 4: this week with Phadri's retiring.
Speaker 1: No, that's a great question. I think this.
Speaker 2: Phaedra and Porsche off camera had their own healing process
Speaker 2: that they decided not to share publicly what that conversation was.
Speaker 2: They did talk about what happened season nine amongst themselves,
Speaker 2: So whatever they decided to go through and heal, that's
Speaker 2: between I mean, listen, that's always tell people. It's one
Speaker 2: of those things where I don't judge people's marriages because
Speaker 2: if that works for your marriage, who the fuck am
Speaker 2: I to tell you to leave your home. If that
Speaker 2: works for y'all, that works for y'all. I look at
Speaker 2: friendships that way. I'm never the one to tell me
Speaker 2: and Porscha don't be friends with her. Girl like if
Speaker 2: y'all like, I love it. I think when it comes
Speaker 2: to Phedra and and Porsche, I think because they did
Speaker 2: talk about it, and if there was no cameras around,
Speaker 2: I think they were able to have an honest conversation
Speaker 2: about what happened.
Speaker 1: And I think they were able to move forward.
Speaker 2: But I definitely think the break did the best for
Speaker 2: the bulk of them to find a place of reconciliation.
Speaker 1: They did travel together.
Speaker 2: I saw somebody in the comments saying Faedia wasn't at
Speaker 2: Porscha's wedding.
Speaker 1: That's because Pedro was out the country. She has something
Speaker 1: to do with her kids.
Speaker 2: She was in Paris with her sons because she was
Speaker 2: celebrating I believe mister President's birthday, so that's the reason
Speaker 2: why it was. I think it was a birthday, but
Speaker 2: she was out of the country. That's why she was
Speaker 2: at portious wedding. So look, I definitely think their friends
Speaker 2: in real life. You can't fake chemistry. You just can't
Speaker 2: fake it. You can't fake it.
Speaker 1: Now, what I did think was interesting.
Speaker 2: Bedra never shaded Shamiyah, and that to me was a
Speaker 2: choice and thought that was very interesting. I thought that
Speaker 2: was very interesting because I did say to myself, I
Speaker 2: wonder if again off camera not not before the season started,
Speaker 2: in their healing process, I do wonder, and Shamila, let's
Speaker 2: hear from you. Did they all have a conversation, because
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting that she shaded all the girls,
Speaker 2: but she didn't shave Shamiya.
Speaker 4: I can answer that because I've been keeping up. Okay,
Speaker 4: I've been watching all the press runs. I've been watching
Speaker 4: people are saying when they're talking to these outlets about
Speaker 4: the Shamia just did a second press run, like a
Speaker 4: mid season press run, and she talked about the fact
Speaker 4: that her and Phedro have not had to come to
Speaker 4: Jesus conversation. But she went into Phaedra's joining the cast
Speaker 4: as if she was gonna meet Fhaedro with whatever energy
Speaker 4: Faedra met her with.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So she said Faedra showed up with good energy, being
Speaker 4: pleasant and fun, and so Shemia said that's where she
Speaker 4: met her and they were able to have a pleasant season.
Speaker 3: So they have not had a conversation.
Speaker 4: In fact, Shemiah then went on to say in these
Speaker 4: interviews that her relationship with her husband Gerald, they were
Speaker 4: engaged at the time, and that that rumor that Faedra
Speaker 4: started about Smia and Candy per the show, she said
Speaker 4: that kind of jeopardized, like the story of you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, jeopardize the strength of her relationship at
Speaker 4: the time, and that's why she was so angry with Faedra.
Speaker 3: So they never talked about it.
Speaker 4: However, it's been so many years collectively, even me as
Speaker 4: someone who was never really a fan of Phaedra on
Speaker 4: the show, I'm ready to move on from all that
Speaker 4: that season nine shit, I'm just ready to move forward.
Speaker 3: And I think that's where Shamia was at with it.
Speaker 4: So, but to answer your question, per Waich, Shamiah has
Speaker 4: said in the press, they have not had that conversation.
Speaker 5: I totally forgot that, Like when you were saying, like
Speaker 5: you're surprised that Faedra didn't sha Shi in my mind.
Speaker 5: I was like, why would she do that? I forgot
Speaker 5: they had a whole kerfuffle many many moons ago. But
Speaker 5: that's what I mean as an audience member, we all
Speaker 5: have moved on, like we're all.
Speaker 6: Kind of ready to move on.
Speaker 5: I think your question about like Sudden and Garcel versus
Speaker 5: Porsicha and Fedra was interesting to me because I think
Speaker 5: Sudden Garcel they needed to be friends out of survival,
Speaker 5: like they nobody else really liked them.
Speaker 6: So they needed to come together.
Speaker 5: They have to form some type of alliance in the
Speaker 5: form of this fake, fake friendship.
Speaker 6: I think we're Portia and Fedra. It's like they don't
Speaker 6: have to do it, but it's better to.
Speaker 5: They're better together, right, They don't have to be freaking
Speaker 5: frat in order for either of them to have like
Speaker 5: a run on the show, but the two of them
Speaker 5: together just elevate, like it's another level. So I think
Speaker 5: they recognize that and like, for that reason, you know,
Speaker 5: they I think they are willing to be like really
Speaker 5: good friends on and off camera.
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like I said, that's some old shit. I'm not mad
Speaker 4: at it. And as a person again. I just want
Speaker 4: to stress this. I'm able to move forward because we
Speaker 4: had some sort of acknowledgment in the episode. There was
Speaker 4: no way that could bring her back without addressing the
Speaker 4: elephant in the moon in the room, whether in some.
Speaker 3: Way, and we got a little swipe at it. That
Speaker 3: was enough. I'm ready to move on, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think so to listen, I'm not listening.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's not our decision
Speaker 2: to bring people back. When it comes to that particular show.
Speaker 2: She's back on the show.
Speaker 3: She is what it is.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was a stellar introduction.
Speaker 2: The real test would be again how we said about
Speaker 2: Shemiah starting to see them I'm strong, And then a
Speaker 2: lot of people are feeling like Shemia is teetering off.
Speaker 2: Angela Oakley starting the season off okay, but now she's
Speaker 2: rising to be the top dog of the season.
Speaker 1: So we just have to wait and see.
Speaker 2: But if I'm judging that scene, it was a ten
Speaker 2: a ten and the girls are in Grenada next week,
Speaker 2: so we get to see what happens there.
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