1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. Good morning, I'm Nathan 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: following today. 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with a health scare at McDonald's and 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: a plunge in shares of the fast food giant. For 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: the latest, let's bring in Bloomberg's John Tucker, John and Nathan. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: The CDC says forty nine people from ten states have 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: contracted E coli traced to ingredients in McDonald's quarter pounders. 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: Ten people have been hospitalized. An elderly person in Colorado 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: has died. Every patient interviewed by the CDC said they 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: ate at McDonald's before falling ill. Most of the eight 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: quarter pounder hamburger specifically, McDonald's USA president is Joe Erlinger. 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 4: This is a temporary change as the investigation continues, and 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 4: we are working quickly to return our full menu in 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: these states as soon as possible. 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 3: Well, the company thinks it could be the youngions that 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: going to quarter pounders. Apparently the quarter pounders are the 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: only sandwiches that routinely take these particular onions. The true 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 3: number of people, in fact, it likely much higher than 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: is currently known, and may involve additional states. According to 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: the CDC, McDonald's is a member of the DELL also 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: has the thirty fifth biggest waiting of the S and 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 3: P five hundred. A major outbreak is going to haunt 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: restaurant chains for years. You'll recall back in twenty fifteen, 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: an E. Colian neurovirus outbreak across Chipotle locations in multiple 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: states led to a drastic drop in sales there. McDonald's 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: shares down six percent pre market in New York. I'm 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: All right, John, thank you. Now we want to turn 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: to geopolitics and the latest from the Middle East. Secretary 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: of State Anony blenk In is on his way to 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia after a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: nettan Yahoo in Jerusalem. He says they both agree that 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: the killing of Hamas leader Yaya Sinwar has opened new 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: possibilities for ending the war in Gaza. 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 5: You're resolute in our defense of Israel when it comes 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: to a tax it's receiving from Iran, from Iran's proxies, 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 5: and we stand with Israel, and we'll always stand with 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 5: Israel in its defense. It's also very important that Israel 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 5: respond in ways that do not create greater escalation and 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: do not risk breading the conflict. 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: Anthony Blenkin is on his eleventh trip to the Middle 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: East since the October seventh Hamas attack that sparked the 44 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: Gaza conflict. Overnight, Israel said it confirm the death of 45 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: cleric Haschem Safadin at an airstrike in Lebanon three weeks ago. 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: He was widely expected to become the next leader of 47 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: Hesbola after the killing of Hassan ISRAELA. 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: Now, Karen, let's head back to the US and get 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: the latest from the campaign trail. Kamala Harris says she 50 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: would work with Congress to raise the federal minimum wage 51 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: to at least fifteen dollars an hour if elected. The 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: Vice president discussed your economic proposals in an interview with 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: NBC News. 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 6: My plans are focused on working people, the middle class, 55 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 6: and what we must do is strengthen hardworking people to 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 6: be able to to do what they dream and aspire 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 6: to be able to do. His plans are about giving 58 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 6: tax cuts, massive tax cuts to billionaires in big corporations. 59 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: Vice President Harris has called for raising the minimum wage before, 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: but hasn't specified a dollar amount. Former President Trump sidestepped 61 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: a question about the issue during a campaign stop at 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: a McDonald's in Pennsylvania over the weekend. 63 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: Well Nathan Donald Trump was back in North Carolina last night, 64 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: outing his pledge to make it easier to buy a car. 65 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 4: I will make interest on car loans fully tax deductible, 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: because affording a car is essential to restoring the American. 67 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: At a rally in Greensboro, North Carolina, the former president 68 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: said the tax break would only apply to cars made 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: in the US. He did not say whether his plan 70 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: would apply to foreign owned automakers that manufacture in the US, 71 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: like Volkswagen, Toyota, and Hyundai. 72 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Well Karen Donald Trump's views on monetary policymakers in global 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: trade are being challenged by Christine Legard. In an interview 74 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: with Bloomberg, the European Central Bank president invited the Republican 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: nominee to ec he's headquarters in Frankfurt. 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 7: He should come and visit us, And you know I 77 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 7: have I have thousands of hard working people, economists, jurists, 78 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 7: a computer scientists, and I can assure you that they 79 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 7: work super hard every day, not just once a month. 80 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: ECB President Christine Legard made the comments to Bloomberg's Francine Lockwa. 81 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: Donald Trump told Bloomberg earlier this month, the FED share 82 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: has the greatest job in government. In his words, you 83 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: show up to the office once a month. 84 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: Well, turning to the markets now, Nathan, bonds are extending 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: to clients this morning. They have sold off significantly since 86 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: the Fed started cutting interest rates. Two year treasury yields 87 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: have climbed thirty four basis points in September. That's a 88 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: move not seen since nineteen ninety five. Bank of America 89 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: CEO Brian moyna has has urged Federal Reserve policymakers to 90 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: be measured. 91 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: We've got to get back in line. And so they're 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 4: on that path. They're late to the game. They've got 93 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: to make sure they don't go too hard now. And 94 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 4: that's what they are all trying to figure out. Watching 95 00:04:59,360 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: the data. 96 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Brian moynihan tells Bloomberg he expects the FED to cut 97 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: rates by fifty basis points by the end of the year. 98 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: Well, that differs Karen from the view of Apollo Management 99 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: chief economist Torsten Slock. He says the chances are rising 100 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: the Fed doesn't cut at all next month. 101 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you really do begin to ask the question, 102 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: where is the slowdown? 103 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: And as we've been debating before, so it's monetary policy 104 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: really restrictive. 105 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: If it is so restrictive, why is the economy. 106 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: Still doing so well? 107 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: Apollo Management chief economists Torsten Slocks says tailwinds from looser 108 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: financial conditions, higher government spending, and elevated stocks and GDP 109 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: growth are building well. 110 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: Nathan, is a busy day on the earnings front, with 111 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: nearly three dozen companies in the SNP five hundred reporting. 112 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: We'll hear from Coca Cola, IBM, and AT and T today. 113 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: We also have a couple of big reports out of Europe. 114 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: This morning, we go to London and get the latest 115 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg's Ewen Paus. Good morning, Ewen. 116 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 8: Karla Nathan Deeutsche Bank kaz apport today. Forty two percent 117 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 8: increase in profits in the third quarter are help by 118 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 8: gains at the investment bank, but Germany's biggest lender also 119 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 8: sounding a note of course and setting aside more money 120 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 8: to cover bad debt. Over at Heineken, it was bad 121 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 8: weather in Europe and slow consumer spending in the US 122 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 8: that saw bier volumes misestimates, but the Dutch brewer says 123 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 8: higher pricing means it will still hit its profit target 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 8: for the year and over at the world's biggest beauty company. 125 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 8: Another sales decline in China, the fifth straight quarter of 126 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 8: lower sales there for Laurel investors today asking if the 127 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 8: shares are still worth it? In London, I'm you Imports 128 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 8: Bloomberg Radio. 129 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 2: Thanks you, and Apple CEO Tim Cook is in China, 130 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: promising to keep investing in the country during a meeting 131 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: with Beijing's top technology official. China is the world's largest 132 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: smartphone market and remains Apple's most important market outside the US. 133 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: This is Tim Cook's second visit to the country this year. 134 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: And finally, Nathan, what would you like to hear about 135 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio? Help make shures like ours even better 136 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: by taking our Bloomberg Audience survey. 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The Georgia Supreme Court rejected a last minute 145 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 9: push by the Republican Party to reinstate a set of 146 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 9: new election rules that included, among other things, a requirement 147 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 9: that ballots be handcounted in the upcoming US presidential vote. 148 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 9: The Republican National Committee challenged a lower court's decision last 149 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 9: week to strike down the rules as unlawful. Scott Turner, 150 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 9: founder of the nonprofit Eternal Vigilance. 151 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: Action, that collective sigh of relief you heard was from 152 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: our election officials around the state. 153 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 9: The court's decision means the rules will remain blocked at 154 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 9: least heading into the November fifth election. Two Georgia election 155 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 9: workers to fame by former Trump attorney rudyja Gi are 156 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 9: getting some of his prized possessions. The ruling comes from 157 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 9: a federal judge, as Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss have 158 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 9: been trying to collect on a one hundred and forty 159 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 9: six million dollar defamation judgment. The possessions include his nineteen 160 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 9: eighty Mercedes Benz, signed photos of Yankees' legends, some luxury watches, 161 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 9: and his New York City apartment. We're learning more about 162 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 9: the arrest of the former CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch. 163 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 9: Michael Jeffries, along with two other co defendants, have been 164 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 9: indicted for allegedly running an international prostitution and sex trafficking 165 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 9: ring for decades. According to the Eastern District of New York, 166 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 9: they forced male models into participating in lude acts. US 167 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 9: Attorney Brion Peace to anyone who thinks they can exploit 168 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 9: and coerce others by using the so called casting couch system, 169 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 9: this case is served as a warning Jeffrey's attorney. He 170 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 9: says that they will respond in court, not in the media. 171 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 9: Los Angeles County District Attorney George Gasson says that he'll 172 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 9: have an announcement soon on his decision regarding a possible 173 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 9: re sentencing of the Menendez brothers. 174 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: As I said about it ten days ago, I said 175 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: I would make a decision within ten days or so. 176 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: I planned to have a decision by the end of 177 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: this week. 178 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 9: Lyell and Eric Menendez were sentenced to life in prison 179 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 9: for the nineteen eighty nine murders of their parents. Their 180 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 9: defense team says there is new evidence supporting the brothers 181 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 9: claims of sexual and physical abuse by their parents. New 182 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 9: York's MTA may face a six hundred and fifty two 183 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 9: million dollars budget shortfall in twenty twenty eight, as higher 184 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 9: overtime costs and lower fare box collections threatened to strain 185 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 9: the transit agency's finances. New York State Comptrollert Thomas Denopoli 186 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 9: warned in a report that about two hundred million dollars 187 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 9: larger than the MTA's own production projections for its budget 188 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 9: gap in twenty twenty eight. Global News twenty four hours 189 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 9: Day and Whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now. 190 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 9: Michael Barbs is Bloomberg hereing. 191 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: Sorry Michael Barr, thank you time now for the Bloomberg 192 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: Sports update. Bron to you by try State Outie. Here's 193 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: John Stashauer, John, good morning. 194 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 10: Good morning, Karen. The Knicks made a couple of big 195 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 10: offseason moves in hopes of catching the Celtics to the 196 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 10: Eastern Conference. They added Karl Anthony Towns and Mchal Bridges 197 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 10: for one night. Anyway, those moves didn't help open the 198 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 10: night in Boston, so the Celtics Oyster the championship ender 199 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 10: and then took a twenty four point lead in the 200 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 10: first half. Boston won won thirty two to one. 201 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 9: On nine. 202 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 10: Jason Tatum scored thirty seven. He made eight of the 203 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 10: Celtics twenty nine three pointers. Twenty nine threes ties the 204 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 10: NBA record. Then some NBA history in La Lebron James 205 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 10: sharing the court with his son Bronni. You only played 206 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 10: three minutes. The Lakers beat Minnesota. Good start for the Rangers, 207 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 10: good start to their season. They're five oho to one 208 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 10: in Montreal, two goals in the first two minutes. Rangers 209 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 10: won seven to two. Devils lost to Tampa Bay eight 210 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 10: to five. The Islanders lost to a t That's right, 211 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 10: one nothing. Capitol's won four one in Philadelphia. The Bruins 212 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 10: shut out in Nashville for nothing. No lack of star 213 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 10: power for the World Series against Friday in LA. But 214 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 10: there's no doubt who the biggest headliners are. And here's 215 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 10: Aaron Judge on shoe Hey Otani. 216 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 11: It's for average, it's for power, the speed, you know, 217 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 11: doing what he did this year with the fifty stolen bases. 218 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 11: That's it got talked about a lot I don't think 219 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 11: it got talked about enough. It's just he's an impressive, 220 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 11: impressive athlete, you know, the best player in the game 221 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 11: and order to ambassador for the sport. 222 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 10: Speaking of out Tony, the ball he hit for his 223 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 10: fiftieth home run was sold a option for four point 224 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 10: four million. Meanwhile, Dodger legend has passed away. Fernando Alezuela 225 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 10: was sixty three, had been ill, came from Mexico, burst 226 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 10: onto the scene as a twenty year old. In nineteen 227 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 10: eighty one, Fernando Mania was born. He won the Rookie 228 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 10: of the Year and the say Young John Stashey, We're 229 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 10: Bloomberg Sports Karen Ethan. 230 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 12: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 231 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 12: and around the world on Bloomberg and the Bloomberg Business app. 232 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 12: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 233 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager bringing you an exclusive conversation 234 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: with Bank of America's CEO Brian moynihan. Speaking with Bloomberg's 235 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: Heidi Stroud Watts in Sydney. They talked about interest rates, 236 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: his warning for the FED, and what the election could 237 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: mean for America's fiscal situation. Let's listen. 238 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: In you think about the US economy, you have great 239 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 4: insight on what's going on. If you look at that 240 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 4: consumer spending this year, the month of October so far 241 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 4: versus last year, or third quarter versus last year's third quarter, 242 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 4: it's up in a four to five percent range, which 243 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 4: is consistent with a low inflation, low growth economy. That's 244 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: across about a trillion and a quarter dollars to twenty 245 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 4: and a half dollars spent in a quarter, so it's 246 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: a big sample and the people moving around they spend 247 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 4: it each quarter on all different things, but generally growing 248 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: consistent where we were pre pandemic, when you had fed 249 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 4: funds rate at the two percent level, two and a 250 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: half percent level, you had inflation and control, and you 251 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 4: had growth in the two percent level. So that gives 252 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 4: us confidence that our experts to do all analysis are 253 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 4: backed up by the data we see our client, and 254 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: that's what we see for the consumer. 255 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 13: Is there of a degree of bifurcation the demographically. 256 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: It's less about bifurcation because I'd assume that the sort 257 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 4: of too it's look inflation hits people in the lower 258 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 4: brackets more than it does others. Because but the good 259 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: news is gas prices come down, food prices are tipped 260 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 4: over inflations, and controls down in the three percent range 261 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 4: as opposed it was running pretty hot, and so that helps. 262 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 4: But if you have auto debt, that debt and you 263 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: want to get a new car, that debt is higher. 264 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 4: If you have mortgage debt and you already had a 265 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: mortgage loan, it's very low. And so it really depends 266 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: on the consumer and really where they are. But the 267 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 4: average American consumer has more money than they did before 268 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: the pandemic, is in better credit quality before the pandemic, 269 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: still has the money and accounts from some of this 270 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: stimulus in the pandemic and is spending money. And that's 271 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: all good stuff for the US economy because we're such 272 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: a consumer. That's the unique thing about it's a consumer 273 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: driven economy. It's a consumer lot economy. 274 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 13: Are you thinking about making allocations or allowances with stress 275 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 13: at this point? 276 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: We always do that. So every quarter we run stressed 277 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: has thousands of them. Every day we run them into 278 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: market's business stuff. We always look at it and so 279 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 4: what's the case if it turns out the wrong way. 280 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 4: So even how we set our reserves. We have a 281 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 4: modeled series of cases we put in, so it's not 282 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: all base case based cases about half and the rest 283 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 4: are stress cases and the atom all together. We're actually 284 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: set our reserves as if unemployment was going to be 285 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: a five percent at the end of next year, not 286 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: what the market predicts at four point three. So there's 287 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 4: a conservatism built in to that, and then we look 288 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 4: beyond that. 289 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 13: Those those are some potential complications for the FED depending 290 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 13: on what happens in just under two weeks time. Right 291 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 13: does the fiscal scenario, particularly under another Trump administration, but 292 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 13: also certainly there are risks when it comes to the 293 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 13: Harris camp as well. Is that something that you're thinking about. 294 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 4: I would separate a very near term question of the 295 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: FED getting the trajectory. Our experts have them cutting again 296 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: a couple more times this year, one hundred basis points 297 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: this year, and another one hundred basis points more evenly 298 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: spread a quarter each quarter next year. It gets to 299 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: three to three point twenty five as a terminal rate, 300 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: and an inflation comes down to the two two point 301 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 4: three percent is a move in the twenty five and 302 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: the twenty six, and so that is a well engineered 303 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 4: fed change, and so the dangers that data or they 304 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: go too fast or too slow, and that risk is 305 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: higher now than it was six months ago. And so 306 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 4: as they move, everybody's going to watch them. And you 307 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: see the self in territories one day and you see 308 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 4: the rally the other day. Everybody's going to watch all that. 309 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: That is completely different from and I don't think that 310 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: will be impacted by the elections. All the fiscal problem 311 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: in the United States, And to give you the sound bite, 312 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: the US just finished the fiscal year. The budget deficit 313 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: for that year was equal to the entire economy of 314 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 4: the country of Australia one point eight trillion dollars. So 315 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 4: think about the size of that, and we've got to 316 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: get back in line. These are good times and we 317 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 4: should be managing more carefully. And frankly, we need to 318 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: have the politicians too, set those budgets, fund those budgets, 319 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: and run tax policy against those budgets to figure out 320 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: how to make this work. It's probably gonna be raising 321 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: revenue and cutting expense or some combination. It's not a 322 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: new problem. That's one we got to start to wrestle with. 323 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: Not that it's critical tomorrow morning, that it'll be critical 324 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: over the next few years. 325 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 13: But given that risk, do you think the FED went 326 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 13: too big too soon. 327 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: No, they were late to the game and they admit that. 328 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: So it's nothing that we're saying. It's they were late 329 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 4: and they had to move fast because inflation got ahead 330 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 4: of them and they and they've done a good job 331 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: of bringing it back down from probably a double digit 332 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: rate down to about three percent last quarter three and 333 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: a quarters. They're getting close to it. And it's never 334 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 4: the inflation average from if one of my teammates tolling 335 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: from nineteen ninety to twenty twenty four was two and 336 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: a half percent, the inflation average from nineteen from two 337 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 4: thousand twenty two and a half percent. It's four and 338 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: a half percent just in the last twenty twenty to 339 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: twenty four, and so we've got to get back in line. 340 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 4: And so they're on that path. They were late to 341 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: the game. They got to make sure they don't go 342 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 4: too hard now, and that's what they are all trying 343 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: to figure out watching the data. 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