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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, February twelfth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty,
Speaker 6: episode number one oh two. Welcome to the latest edition
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Speaker 6: got the crew back together. We did not have a
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Speaker 6: didn't want to come to work. Everybody stay what except
Speaker 6: for me, and but now we got you guys back. Happy,
Speaker 6: everybody's back. I'm sure you got some great stories from
Speaker 6: your uh, your trips to the super Bowl and Amber
Speaker 6: had a little family trip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so everybody had.
Speaker 7: Very cool land or world World.
Speaker 3: It's fun Diego's first time. So you know, that was.
Speaker 7: Great, awesome, you know, it's magical.
Speaker 6: But you guys coming back from the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 6: actually I wanted to start the conversation there. Obviously, the
Speaker 6: Eagles get their win, they get their second UH championship
Speaker 6: in the history of their franchise. As you watch that game,
Speaker 6: and I found myself doing this, I thought it'd be
Speaker 6: an interesting question just to go around the table.
Speaker 3: What do you think was.
Speaker 6: The biggest takeaway you had as you put it in
Speaker 6: Cowboys world and you watch the Eagles do what they did,
Speaker 6: and obviously, knowing this is a league where it's a
Speaker 6: copycat league, people typically look for things that are successful
Speaker 6: when they try to do some of them, not all
Speaker 6: of them, but some of them. What was the biggest
Speaker 6: takeaway that you grab from that Eagles game? You're like,
Speaker 6: that's what the Cowboys need, That's what the Cowboys need
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 8: Can I can I look at it from a totality
Speaker 8: rather than the game. You know, Stephen Jones has said
Speaker 8: that the Eagles eventually their payday is gonna come as
Speaker 8: far as all the investments that they've made into into
Speaker 8: their roster, and he's right, But how much do you
Speaker 8: balance that with sacrificing it for the now and trying
Speaker 8: to push for a Super Bowl for the now? And
Speaker 8: Jerry Jones said last offseason, and he said again on
Speaker 8: the NFL Honors Red Carpet and New Orleans last Thursday night,
Speaker 8: Is said, we're not building for the future.
Speaker 7: We're trying to win now.
Speaker 8: And I think if that's truly the case, then they
Speaker 8: can look at what the Eagles have done as far
Speaker 8: as Okay, hey, we we're gonna shorten our window by
Speaker 8: about two years by investing so much on both sides
Speaker 8: of the wall here, but it's gonna give us a
Speaker 8: better chance during that window. And obviously it worked out
Speaker 8: for Howie Roseman. He gets to put a ring on
Speaker 8: his hand and you know, whenever those whenever the cap
Speaker 8: hell is coming around the corner, then he can wipe
Speaker 8: it with a ring on his hand, you know. And
Speaker 8: I think you have to balance that, and that's the
Speaker 8: balance act of a GM. It's what makes this league
Speaker 8: difficult from a GM's perspective. But I think that's one
Speaker 8: thing I look at and saying, like, hey, the Rams
Speaker 8: sacrificed it, they got to ring out of it. The
Speaker 8: Buccaneers sacrifice it, they got to ring out of it,
Speaker 8: and now the Eagles have done the same thing. So
Speaker 8: you wonder maybe that's maybe that's the bread and butter
Speaker 8: figuring this thing out.
Speaker 9: It's about really the ability to navigate the draft and
Speaker 9: then free agency. How important both of them are. If
Speaker 9: you look at the key player, even though he didn't
Speaker 9: play the key role in that game with Barkley and
Speaker 9: going out and getting they made the commitment to go
Speaker 9: out and get him, spend eleven million dollars to get
Speaker 9: that particular player, even though there's like you know, the
Speaker 9: injury history and all that, the draft was outstanding for him.
Speaker 9: Cooper Degene, you know, you look at Quintin Mitchell. You
Speaker 9: look at those guys and the way that they played
Speaker 9: with with that, with those guys and the secondary, the
Speaker 9: draft picks that they made throughout the Georgia kids are
Speaker 9: starting to show up now. I mean there was you know,
Speaker 9: that was something they had multiple first round picks, they
Speaker 9: moved around, you know, they they the earmarked players and
Speaker 9: were able to get them. Some players fell right to them.
Speaker 9: They made the picks. It just showed me how important
Speaker 9: is they balance between the free agency and the draft
Speaker 9: is the building the football team.
Speaker 10: I wanted to ask you something and this is not
Speaker 10: U because I completely agree with your point, and this
Speaker 10: is not to argue with it, but me with someone
Speaker 10: that's not one hundred percent super knowledgeable with the cap
Speaker 10: and the money and all of that. But right, it's
Speaker 10: so complicated.
Speaker 9: Even the people that work.
Speaker 10: But at what point do you get to that because
Speaker 10: we keep hearing, okay, your your hands are so tied, right,
Speaker 10: but when when do you get to a point that
Speaker 10: you can actually make those moves or have the ability
Speaker 10: to put that kind of money and invest in that way.
Speaker 8: Let's we can put it from the Cowboys perspective. Yes, easy, Yes,
Speaker 8: this offseason specifically, and you go on spow Track or
Speaker 8: you go on over the Cap, and yes, there are
Speaker 8: things you can do with the current cap number that
Speaker 8: the Cowboys have available going into this offseason. However, it's
Speaker 8: not as easy as just clicking a button on Spowtrack
Speaker 8: or over the CAAP dot com. Yes, you could restructure
Speaker 8: Terrance Steal this offseason. Yes, you could restructure Trayvon Dix. Yes,
Speaker 8: if you got a Michael Parsons deal done today, that
Speaker 8: could allow you to push some of that money down
Speaker 8: the line and maximize the two to three year window
Speaker 8: that you have right now. Yes, and I think that
Speaker 8: should be priority number one when you go into this
Speaker 8: offseason and saying like, hey, we need to get Michael
Speaker 8: Parsons done before March twelfth, when the new league year hits,
Speaker 8: so we know what we're spending in free agency.
Speaker 7: If I were the Cowboys, that's what I would be saying.
Speaker 8: But you can move some of those things along to
Speaker 8: create more money for now, and that's you look at
Speaker 8: what Philadelphia did last year as far as getting Jalen
Speaker 8: Hurts done early, DeVante Smith done early. It allowed them
Speaker 8: to kind of figure out what they want to do
Speaker 8: as far as pushing that money down the line. They
Speaker 8: were able to bring in Saquon Barkley, they were able
Speaker 8: to bring in Zach Bond, who's a Defensive Player of
Speaker 8: the Year candidate. And granted, they're going to have to
Speaker 8: pay that bill when that time comes because they push
Speaker 8: that money down the line, so that that ninety million
Speaker 8: dollars cap hit or whatever for Jalen Hurts, it's coming
Speaker 8: in twenty seven.
Speaker 7: I think that's coming, and that's going to.
Speaker 8: Be really difficult to get out of but they got
Speaker 8: a ring out of it, So it's it's from the
Speaker 8: Cowboys perspective. I think they don't want to be in
Speaker 8: that situation at any point in time, so they don't
Speaker 8: create that. And part of that's respectable. But I think
Speaker 8: also you also have to look at, Okay, some a
Speaker 8: lot of these teams that are winning rings and have
Speaker 8: rings on their hand they've sacrificed. Does there come up
Speaker 8: points where you eventually have to sacrifice?
Speaker 6: But I also think part of it is I think
Speaker 6: they did it, they did it a different way, but
Speaker 6: the amount of money that they spent primarily on their
Speaker 6: own players in that two thousand to two thousand and
Speaker 6: three window, that was really their window. Like they had
Speaker 6: a team that they built that was on paper good enough.
Speaker 3: To do some stuff.
Speaker 6: They just missed their window, in my opinion, now they're
Speaker 6: having then they had to pay the piper last year,
Speaker 6: Like it was like, Okay, now you got to pay
Speaker 6: the bill on what you've had the last three years,
Speaker 6: and you didn't get to that promised land with the
Speaker 6: strategy you took the players you decided to pay. Now
Speaker 6: they never went all in like the Eagles. From the
Speaker 6: standpoint of we're gonna go out and free agency and
Speaker 6: spend that kind of money. But they certainly were spending
Speaker 6: money on their own guys and resigning their own guys,
Speaker 6: and so I just believe like they had a window.
Speaker 6: They just didn't achieve what they wanted to achieve in
Speaker 6: that window.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 9: I was just curious because I was looking up Jalen
Speaker 9: Hurts because he doesn't he never makes more than fifty
Speaker 9: million dollars a year, and that and to the void
Speaker 9: the the cap pit you're talking about the ninety seven
Speaker 9: million that comes in twenty twenty nine. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 9: he makes his cap number this year.
Speaker 3: How long is this deal?
Speaker 9: His deal, his deal actually goes through, He's got they've
Speaker 9: got voidable years going through this thing all the way through.
Speaker 9: It looks like twenty thirty two.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 9: So when he did it, it was like a Yeah,
Speaker 9: they got him for They got him on his rookie deal.
Speaker 9: They got him to sign it on his rookie deal.
Speaker 9: His cap number this year was thirteen and a half
Speaker 9: million dollars. His cap number next year is twenty one eight.
Speaker 9: The following year is thirty one nine. Very manageable for
Speaker 9: the cap the cap year in twenty twenty seven, forty
Speaker 9: two to one, twenty twenty eight, forty seven to five,
Speaker 9: and then you get the and then you get the
Speaker 9: ninety seven million dollars.
Speaker 3: Now, of course they're gonna have to do something with that.
Speaker 6: You would have to, but they might be thinking about it, like,
Speaker 6: but he's signed be at thirty one mins old.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he'll be thirty one years old in twenty twenty nine,
Speaker 9: so they'll they'll figure out some other way and then
Speaker 9: that's probably where they'll have to pay him, if you know.
Speaker 3: But think about that.
Speaker 9: I mean they've got him from from from well this
Speaker 9: year until twenty twenty nine, and he's there, he's not
Speaker 9: making more than fifty million dollars a year.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you look at aj Brown in twenty thirty his
Speaker 8: cap number is fifty three and a half million.
Speaker 7: I mean that there's there's a lot of Steven Joones
Speaker 7: is right. The bill is going to have to be paid.
Speaker 6: But they got but they got a window of what
Speaker 6: four or five years where they can.
Speaker 8: Just kind of twenty twenty eight to really run this
Speaker 8: thing up. So I mean that's a hell of a window.
Speaker 3: And they got a ton of talent.
Speaker 7: Window they got a talent. And I'll put.
Speaker 6: It to you like this, And this is what jumped
Speaker 6: out to me as I was watching that game that
Speaker 6: I think every team in the NFL. You hear it
Speaker 6: said all the time, but everybody doesn't really invest in.
Speaker 3: It the same way. The trenches matter.
Speaker 6: If you've got the better offensive and defensive line, you
Speaker 6: will win. And we saw it play out in that game.
Speaker 6: They were playing the best quarterback on the planet and
Speaker 6: he couldn't be the best quarterback on the planet because
Speaker 6: their defensive line was too ferocious. They just couldn't be
Speaker 6: And by the way, they have the best offensive line,
Speaker 6: so they were able to protect their quarterback and they
Speaker 6: weren't able to get the kind of pressure on him.
Speaker 6: The trenches were where that game was won and lost.
Speaker 6: And I think that's that was the takeaway for me.
Speaker 6: And then you want to apply it to the Cowboys
Speaker 6: and I'm like, Okay, look at the offensive line. Man,
Speaker 6: there's a bunch of question marks on that offensive line
Speaker 6: right now. Other than Tyler Smith. You don't have another
Speaker 6: guy that you say, yes, that is he is where
Speaker 6: he needs to be. There a lot of guy.
Speaker 7: What we know about.
Speaker 3: BB is he looked pretty good as a rookie. He's
Speaker 3: got a lot of development to do.
Speaker 6: So if he keeps developing, great, that's still a question mark, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean so guid In same thing. Like Guiden had
Speaker 3: some moments that were pretty good. He's got some developing
Speaker 3: to do. You know, still had a better second half
Speaker 3: than the first half.
Speaker 6: But is he like is that is that a sign
Speaker 6: of things to come that he's going to have more
Speaker 6: of the bad games and the good games the time
Speaker 6: goes on?
Speaker 3: You know, are you going to have Zach Martin back?
Speaker 3: And is so is he going to be healthy?
Speaker 6: Like you have all these question marks on that side
Speaker 6: of the ball, On the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 6: you got just as many, if not more questions about
Speaker 6: where you are right now. So I think just looking
Speaker 6: at the trenches, just looking at the trenches alone, I
Speaker 6: think the Cowboys have a lot of questions answered. If
Speaker 6: everything works out and everybody meets the standard of what
Speaker 6: they're of those questions, great it works. There are a
Speaker 6: lot of questions there, and I think that's the part
Speaker 6: where I'm like, if I'm going into this offseason and
Speaker 6: you start talking about draft as you guys are doing
Speaker 6: on the Draft show, I would be looking at this
Speaker 6: thing saying, man, build my lines.
Speaker 3: Build my lines.
Speaker 6: That's why that's what I got out at Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Build my offense and build my defensive line. I can
Speaker 6: make everything else work.
Speaker 7: It's tough. It's a discussion.
Speaker 8: I know we've had a couple of times already on
Speaker 8: the draft shows the offensive line.
Speaker 7: When do you start investing on the end.
Speaker 8: Do you want to go three out of four years
Speaker 8: picking in the first round on offensive line?
Speaker 6: And they did it when it worked for them back
Speaker 6: with that that last crew they had.
Speaker 7: Right, certainly, certainly there's a case to be made for it.
Speaker 9: There was those guys though, were collegiately. They played a
Speaker 9: lot more than what you had with Geyton. Yeah, you
Speaker 9: know guys, Frederick Martin, you know those guys. They they've
Speaker 9: played they yeah, they played you know Smith, They've played
Speaker 9: a lot of football in college.
Speaker 3: The problem is Smith.
Speaker 6: Came out after eleven. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: He came out after his junior year. Right, did all
Speaker 6: of them come out after their junior year?
Speaker 9: I think I think I think the scene I think, uh,
Speaker 9: I think Frederick and Martin were seniors because they Yeah,
Speaker 9: I mean they played a ton, They played a ton
Speaker 9: of football. The thing about is you caught Geyiton on
Speaker 9: the tail end of the tackles in the draft last year.
Speaker 9: You know you you caught him on the tail end,
Speaker 9: and that's that's you know you're picking. You're picking twenty
Speaker 9: eighth and you're looking at a tackle and you you
Speaker 9: know you picked him, and that's you know, he has
Speaker 9: not played a lot of football. Bbe played a lot
Speaker 9: of football and didn't look the learning curve for him
Speaker 9: didn't look as steep as what it looked for Guiton,
Speaker 9: you know. And I think that's you know, the problem
Speaker 9: that I have with this draft. And I'm not going
Speaker 9: to speak for Nick. If you're told me to fix
Speaker 9: the trent, to fix the trenches, I feel better about
Speaker 9: fixing it with defensive linemen than I do offensive lineman
Speaker 9: right now. It's because of the talent pool and the
Speaker 9: talent pool and then and I think there's a I
Speaker 9: think there's a really big unknown for a lot of
Speaker 9: these offensive.
Speaker 3: Linemen and you want to see a playout.
Speaker 9: I you know what, it scares the f out of
Speaker 9: me right now, to be honest, if.
Speaker 3: You were the personnel guy in there, you'd be like,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean, I I have, I have.
Speaker 9: I have really good feelings about I feel have really
Speaker 9: good feelings about the defensive tackle group. I have really
Speaker 9: good feelings about the running back group. I have good
Speaker 9: feelings about the wide receiver group. In a way, I
Speaker 9: actually have a good feeling about the corners in this draft,
Speaker 9: I don't I'm gonna have to go into free agency,
Speaker 9: you know, I'm gonna have to figure out do I
Speaker 9: want to? And I was looking at over the cap
Speaker 9: on this. You know, when you talk, we're not allowed
Speaker 9: to talk about guys that are contracting on the orion teams.
Speaker 3: Okay, unless they're gonna be a free agent.
Speaker 9: Okay, O our linebacker Kansas City, right, Okay, is he
Speaker 9: he's I think he's a I think he's a free agent.
Speaker 11: For it.
Speaker 3: Let's make sure he's a free agent.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, But I'm just saying. We got your
Speaker 9: point though, we get okay, But I would rather, I
Speaker 9: would rather. I would rather spend money on that than
Speaker 9: I would spend money on what I what I know
Speaker 9: right now, what I what I know. I think I'm
Speaker 9: right about.
Speaker 3: What you know right now? On the on the on
Speaker 3: the Guy.
Speaker 9: Osa, Golston, Lewis, those kinds of guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Nick Bolton will be a free agent.
Speaker 9: Thank you. Okay, Nick Bolton, I just I thought I
Speaker 9: was right about that. But Nick Bolton, Okay, I don't
Speaker 9: have a linebacker that. I don't have linebackers that I
Speaker 9: could just say that's my guy, that's my guy, that's
Speaker 9: my guy. It's just not a deep position. And if
Speaker 9: you look at the valuation of Nick Bolden as a player,
Speaker 9: he's basically he's on a rookie deal, but he's like
Speaker 9: a nine million dollar player. So you're probably going to
Speaker 9: have to spend twelve million dollars to get Nick Bolton
Speaker 9: is here. But then, but if you look at the
Speaker 9: valuations of guys like Golston nine million dollar player or
Speaker 9: or Osa, which might be a twelve to thirteen million
Speaker 9: dollar player, give me the linebacker over what I know
Speaker 9: with with Osa and what I know with with Golston.
Speaker 9: In that kind of situation, I would rather I think
Speaker 9: I could I could draft, I can draft the defensive line.
Speaker 9: I don't know if I could find the linebackers for you.
Speaker 9: So if I get a guy, it's a stud linebacker.
Speaker 9: And these scouts, right, now are gonna, you know, they're
Speaker 9: starting to meet with the coaches because they got the
Speaker 9: staff together, and now Flus will be able to tell them, hey,
Speaker 9: I like this type or I like that type, and
Speaker 9: the linebacker I like this type and I like you know,
Speaker 9: they'll be able to kind of map that out. But
Speaker 9: I just feel that to me, if I have to
Speaker 9: spend thirteen million dollars on os, I would rather spend
Speaker 9: nine to ten million dollars on Bolton, the linebacker from
Speaker 9: Kansas City. That's what I would rather do.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take our first break.
Speaker 6: When we come back, I want to talk about some
Speaker 6: of the hires that we have not talked about for
Speaker 6: this coaching staff, particular offensive coordinator and what he could
Speaker 6: potentially bring to the table.
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Speaker 6: Let's let's talk about some of the hires that this
Speaker 6: coaching staff has made let's start first to the offensive
Speaker 6: coordinator Clayton and Clayton Adams. What are your thoughts on
Speaker 6: that hire as an offensive coordinator coming from Arizona.
Speaker 8: I think it's a strong hire personally. I think there's
Speaker 8: an emphasis being taken right now to running the ball
Speaker 8: that they want to. They want to run the ball
Speaker 8: with this new system Schottenheimer talked about in the presser.
Speaker 8: Dak mentioned it yesterday at the Children's Cancer Fund event,
Speaker 8: and you look at the hires that they've made. They
Speaker 8: are trying to emphasize marrying what Schottenheimer can do from
Speaker 8: a West Coast passing perspective with an efficient run game,
Speaker 8: and the Clayton Adams hires a big, big key of
Speaker 8: that coming from the Cardinals as their offensive line coach. Obviously,
Speaker 8: I'm going to throw some numbers at you and let
Speaker 8: me know if it starts getting too confusing, Derek, But
Speaker 8: this is the splits that Arizona had last year when
Speaker 8: it came to run concepts, and I'm going to compare
Speaker 8: those numbers with the Cowboys numbers from last year. So
Speaker 8: inside zone runs Arizona ran nineteen point six percent of
Speaker 8: the time last year compared to the Cowboys thirty one
Speaker 8: point one percent, so a lean, heavy on not a
Speaker 8: lot of creativity. Same could be said with outside zone.
Speaker 8: When it came to inside zone and outside zone, the
Speaker 8: two most common runs that you'll see in the NFL.
Speaker 8: The Cowboys ran one of those two fifty three point
Speaker 8: seven percent of the time. You compare that with the
Speaker 8: Cardinals from last year. I'm trying to do quick math
Speaker 8: in my head, thirty nine point one percent last year.
Speaker 8: But the one that really sticks out to me and
Speaker 8: the one that I think will really help benefit this
Speaker 8: not only this running game, but this offensive line group
Speaker 8: is the poll lead run that is getting an offensive
Speaker 8: lineman out in space, having him run down field and
Speaker 8: and you know, pull guys from across the angle blocks
Speaker 8: angles than line scrimmage one on one blocks. And Arizona
Speaker 8: ran that fourteen point two percent of the time last
Speaker 8: year on one hundred and twenty three carries. Compare that
Speaker 8: to the Cowboys eleven point nine percent on ninety nine
Speaker 8: carries last year.
Speaker 7: So there's going to be.
Speaker 8: A lot of different things that you see with with
Speaker 8: this run game, and the Clayton Adams hire is a
Speaker 8: big part of that. I think you marry that with
Speaker 8: offensive line coach Connor and what Kansas State has done
Speaker 8: from a creative running perspective with goos Vaughan, with DJ
Speaker 8: Giddens over the course of the last three years. You
Speaker 8: were going to have a creative run game finally, and
Speaker 8: I am so happy to say that right here.
Speaker 3: So here's my question.
Speaker 6: You talk about that, do you have the offensive line
Speaker 6: personnel to be able to do those things.
Speaker 7: You hope you will?
Speaker 9: At right tackle you do, yes, I agree, At center
Speaker 9: you do, At left guard you do. Now we'll see
Speaker 9: with what happens who's the left tackle, if it's Guiden
Speaker 9: or if it's somebody else. But the one thing some
Speaker 9: of the better plays that Geiiton did have if you
Speaker 9: watch Oklahoma tape, was him getting out in space. So
Speaker 9: the pind and pull stuff is really.
Speaker 3: Just that's actually easier blocks.
Speaker 9: So simple because you just and the the you said
Speaker 9: eleven percent Dallas on the that's cracked toss. That's you know,
Speaker 9: we saw how they get the ball to the outside.
Speaker 9: It's take the receiver, crack the edge, then kind of
Speaker 9: pull guys on the outside and and Dallas had some
Speaker 9: success doing that. So, uh, yeah, the center got better
Speaker 9: second level during the season. The right tackle is clearly
Speaker 9: athletic enough to play pen and poll, I agree, and
Speaker 9: then the and then but in the left guard is
Speaker 9: athletic enough to play pen and pool. So you're gonna
Speaker 9: have to kind of figure out though the other spots,
Speaker 9: if that's what I think. The thing that tells me
Speaker 9: that I look at those numbers is that people that
Speaker 9: that Arizona got to a point where they were like, listen,
Speaker 9: you try and stop us doing this. We're going to
Speaker 9: do this. They're able to kind of adjust. And and
Speaker 9: the thing that I heard about Adams as a coach
Speaker 9: from talking to people with the Cardinals is that he
Speaker 9: is a guy that will coach veterans and rookies the same.
Speaker 9: He'll cook, he'll coach them hard, but not to the point.
Speaker 9: I mean, he's more of a teacher kind of a guy,
Speaker 9: not a yellow screamer guy. But he this is where
Speaker 9: guys like needs Godon needs a reset, you know, Goidon
Speaker 9: needs a reset on. Okay, maybe a different voice. We saw,
Speaker 9: you know, we saw what happened with with Steele when
Speaker 9: Philbin left. It kind of you know, that was Philbin
Speaker 9: was his guy. So I think that if you tell
Speaker 9: me that I have a coach that will work with
Speaker 9: rookies and veterans the same way and teach them the
Speaker 9: same way. That gives me some hope for guiding and
Speaker 9: going in the future.
Speaker 8: I'm glad you mentioned Steel because I think these hires
Speaker 8: that they have made that benefit the offensive line benefit
Speaker 8: Terrence Steel more than.
Speaker 7: Any five of those guys up front.
Speaker 8: When you when you can maximize his athleticism, get him
Speaker 8: active in the run game once again rather than just
Speaker 8: point of attack blocking, you know, front, I think it's
Speaker 8: going to really help Terrence Steele moving forward.
Speaker 10: Well, I what I like the best is obviously the
Speaker 10: running aspect of it. But the point that the Cowboys
Speaker 10: and Schottenheimer, they all decided to go and hire somebody
Speaker 10: that has exactly the qualities and the skills where you're
Speaker 10: lacking that they and that doesn't always happens when the
Speaker 10: Cowboys go out and hire somebody that you're like familiar, yeah,
Speaker 10: like okay, what else are they bringing to the table.
Speaker 10: But this is someone that is clearly bringing something that
Speaker 10: you have been struggling with and we're unable to truly
Speaker 10: find the answers to it. Got better at the end
Speaker 10: of the season, but you clearly needed a change there.
Speaker 10: So that's the biggest thing that I like is the
Speaker 10: fact that it's refreshing to finally be able to feel
Speaker 10: like you addressed an issue, and that isn't always the
Speaker 10: case when the Cowboys do hiring or get somebody in here.
Speaker 8: Kind Of to that same point, I got to give
Speaker 8: Brian Schottenheimer credit because twenty five years as an assistant,
Speaker 8: you run into a lot of coaches, you run into
Speaker 8: a lot of relationships, you build a lot of relationships.
Speaker 7: Obviously he's a relationships guy.
Speaker 8: I got to give him credit for stepping outside of
Speaker 8: his comfort zone and building the staff and bringing in
Speaker 8: the right guys. And you know, Clayton Adams isn't a
Speaker 8: guy that he has experienced with. Then Connor Riley is
Speaker 8: not a guy he has experienced with. There's multiple guys
Speaker 8: you could say that about on the offensive side of
Speaker 8: the ball. Granted, they retained two guys that were on
Speaker 8: staff already, but I think you ask anybody, those are
Speaker 8: two staffer retentions that you would have wanted. So I
Speaker 8: gotta got a credit Shotenheimer for doing that.
Speaker 3: Yep, all right, let's talk about.
Speaker 6: Excuse me a couple of the other position coaches who
Speaker 6: have been hired Connor Riley. You mentioned offensive line coach
Speaker 6: from k State, Junior Adams coming from Oregon as wide
Speaker 6: receivers coach, and Derek Foster as a running back coach
Speaker 6: running backs coach.
Speaker 3: Tell what you like about some of those guys.
Speaker 8: The first thing that popped in my mind is running backs,
Speaker 8: so we can start there, just because it's going to
Speaker 8: be a position group that gets a lot of conversation
Speaker 8: this offseason, whether we're talking about the draft, when do
Speaker 8: you take one? Do you take one early? Do you
Speaker 8: take one late?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 8: Free agency? Do you do you grab one then or
Speaker 8: do you wait and grab two in the draft? There's
Speaker 8: gonna be a lot of free running back discussions that
Speaker 8: we have, not only in this show, but on the
Speaker 8: Draft Show. Derek Foster when you when you factor in
Speaker 8: his evaluation of running backs, He's drafted three running backs
Speaker 8: as a running backs coach in his time over the
Speaker 8: course of the last five or so years. Have not
Speaker 8: loved the resume as far as who he's brought in.
Speaker 8: The best running back that he has drafted, the only
Speaker 8: one that is still in the NFL is Isaiah Spiller
Speaker 8: and hasn't done a whole lot obviously, so I wonder
Speaker 8: how much he will get when it comes to the
Speaker 8: evaluation of these guys. But you look at how Derek
Speaker 8: Foster has maximized what he has gotten at the running
Speaker 8: back position, I think there's a lot to like there.
Speaker 8: You could look at Austin Eckler when he was kind
Speaker 8: of overseeing his rise for the Chargers. You could look
Speaker 8: at Kamara this last year when Kamara was healthy and
Speaker 8: we were talking earlier in the year about Kamara being
Speaker 8: an Offensive Player of the Year candidate before the Saints
Speaker 8: fell off a cliff. So I think I think as
Speaker 8: far as marrying the run with the receiving game out
Speaker 8: of the backfield, Derek Foster is a good higher there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, you start to talk about with Adams
Speaker 9: the wide receivers coach, you know, that's gonna that's a
Speaker 9: really that's a big hire. That's a that's a group
Speaker 9: of you know, Dallas has got to figure out some
Speaker 9: things at the at the receiver room, whether that's you know,
Speaker 9: with Tolbert and you know players currently behind Lamb. You know,
Speaker 9: this is a pretty deep group that Nick and I
Speaker 9: are talking about with you know, the guys that can
Speaker 9: play the exposition, play on the line, allow CD to
Speaker 9: kind of have some of the movement stuff that he needs.
Speaker 9: But uh, it's interesting that they went the collegiate route here. Uh,
Speaker 9: you know, because usually it's a group. It's kind of
Speaker 9: a that wide receiver room usually has a lot of
Speaker 9: egos and usually so you just wonder, maybe you have
Speaker 9: to have a player that relates or excuse me, a
Speaker 9: coach that relates to the players, and you know, hopefully
Speaker 9: he can get the maximum out of these guys. I
Speaker 9: do think they're going to have to address this thing
Speaker 9: through the draft, you know, I think they're going to
Speaker 9: have to get better at that position, so you know, hopefully,
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, we'll connect the dots here on
Speaker 9: the show because you know, Tess Johnson, who is a
Speaker 9: wide receiver from Oregon, is a very talented receiver. People
Speaker 9: will probably connect the dots here that you have an
Speaker 9: Oregon coach that maybe if you go and get a receiver,
Speaker 9: but he's very similar to some of the guys you have,
Speaker 9: so it might you know, we'll see how that all
Speaker 9: plays out. But that the fact that they've gone after
Speaker 9: these collegiate coaches is an interesting way of navigating things.
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Speaker 6: It is the final segment of The Break Live from
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Speaker 6: our season in review. I'm going to start this with
Speaker 6: this big picture question. If you had one word that
Speaker 6: would describe the twenty twenty four season for the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 6: which of these three best describes Disappointing, frustrating or predictable?
Speaker 8: Disappointing, disappointing in the fact of injuries, in the fact
Speaker 8: of team performance, and the fact of offensive performance too.
Speaker 8: You can factor it in before the injuries even got involved.
Speaker 8: Look at Dak Prescott's play. He was on pace to
Speaker 8: set his career high in interceptions at a certain point,
Speaker 8: you look at any facet of the game.
Speaker 7: The run game was disappointing. That was a little bit
Speaker 7: more predictable, but.
Speaker 8: The overall offense success was disappoint The pass rush before
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons was able to come back into the equation
Speaker 8: was disappointing. UH seven to ten overall is disappointing.
Speaker 9: I would say expected because to me, you look at
Speaker 9: the situation with the with the you know, the coach
Speaker 9: on a one year deal, the you know, the staff
Speaker 9: on a one year deal. I mean, what were you
Speaker 9: really expecting here, you know? I mean you, yeah, the
Speaker 9: injuries and all that. You had some of the same problems,
Speaker 9: and there are things you saw during training camp that
Speaker 9: that bothered you. You know, as the season was, you know,
Speaker 9: you're like, well, man, this is not going to be good.
Speaker 9: So in a way, it's you kind of got what
Speaker 9: you You kind of got what you were expecting, that
Speaker 9: that this was going to be a struggle because of
Speaker 9: the front office saying, hey, the coach is on this,
Speaker 9: the coaches are on this, got a new coordinator here.
Speaker 9: You know, it just seemed to me that there was
Speaker 9: it just never was going in the right direction once
Speaker 9: we left Oxnard.
Speaker 10: I would say predictable because even though there are times
Speaker 10: that you're hoping and you get into the emotions and
Speaker 10: you think, oh, they're gonna do better than it's that
Speaker 10: hard over logic type of battle there. But when you
Speaker 10: go back to the beginning of training camp and when
Speaker 10: you go back to how the year the game ended
Speaker 10: against Green Bay and you talk Derek about missing that window.
Speaker 10: You missed that window. You knew the struggles you were
Speaker 10: heading into training camp with. And then even at training camp,
Speaker 10: you start having those practices with the Rams and you
Speaker 10: see these battles and you see them getting beat and
Speaker 10: you're like, Okay, am I really seeing what am I seeing?
Speaker 10: And you're not really wanting to believe it. But if
Speaker 10: you look at that like that, it reflected back to
Speaker 10: all the way back to training camp and those battles
Speaker 10: where they kept getting beat. So it's just a lot
Speaker 10: of it pointed to that season being bad. That was
Speaker 10: gonna be bad in a lot of different ways because
Speaker 10: of the resources that you no longer had prior because
Speaker 10: of the previous year. So but also I didn't predict
Speaker 10: the defense to have players that would play as well
Speaker 10: as they did, So that's another thing. There were a
Speaker 10: lot of players that played a lot better than I
Speaker 10: expected them to in the second half of the season.
Speaker 10: So I don't know, it was disappointing, frustrating, and predictable
Speaker 10: because you already knew you you were heading into a
Speaker 10: season with a lot of struggles.
Speaker 6: You know, I actually said frustrating because I think going
Speaker 6: back to even training camp, I think we all agreed
Speaker 6: there were things that they needed to do in order
Speaker 6: to have success, and the big one was the running game,
Speaker 6: and I think we I think we.
Speaker 3: Said it over and over.
Speaker 6: You got to give them an opportunity to s show
Speaker 6: you that they can run the ball, and they were
Speaker 6: not willing to do it at the part of the season.
Speaker 6: And so for me, it was frustrating because I think
Speaker 6: there were things they could have done throughout this year
Speaker 6: that would have made this season better. I don't think
Speaker 6: they did them, or I think they did them too late.
Speaker 6: And Mike Zimmer talked about how he felt like he
Speaker 6: had regrets because there were things he should have been
Speaker 6: doing earlier that he just didn't do it, and then
Speaker 6: later he decided I'm gonna do it and things changed, right,
Speaker 6: And so that was what was frustrating is I think
Speaker 6: this team was better as far as their talent is concerned.
Speaker 6: I think they were better than what the result was.
Speaker 6: And I think some of that could have changed if
Speaker 6: they'd handled things a little bit differently from the standpoint
Speaker 6: of how they were being coached. Yeah, all right, let's
Speaker 6: go to the next question, which injury do you think
Speaker 6: most impacted Dallas this season Deron Bland, Tank, Lawrence, Dak Prescott,
Speaker 6: or Zach Martin. And you can talk about Zach Martin
Speaker 6: from the standpoint of him being out there playing even
Speaker 6: though he was injured.
Speaker 7: I would have to take Dak.
Speaker 8: Granted, this team was three and five coming out of
Speaker 8: that Atlanta game, if correctly, so they were already heading downward.
Speaker 8: But I think that ship gets corrected a lot sooner
Speaker 8: than it did if Dak was still in the equation.
Speaker 9: I think that the Zach Martin one really really hurt them.
Speaker 9: Uh well, I should take that back because I feel
Speaker 9: like that, you know, some of the reasons with you
Speaker 9: know that you struggling outfits, but think about what happened
Speaker 9: when Bland didn't play and you had like seven dudes
Speaker 9: having to play that position. So Zach Martin was not great,
Speaker 9: not ideal, but the cornerback rotation at there that that
Speaker 9: that just was not good enough and it not where
Speaker 9: it needed to be. And Bland was a big part
Speaker 9: of that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I was gonna say Bland because he has been
Speaker 10: a big part in the secondary and I'm blank, you
Speaker 10: know what was the rookie guyon Carson Paling? Carson.
Speaker 7: He poor guy.
Speaker 10: He was thrown into the fire and it was it
Speaker 10: was a lot for him right off the bat. I
Speaker 10: think that defense right out the beginning, the secondary definitely
Speaker 10: needed to have a durn Bland healthy again and being
Speaker 10: able to play alongside Trevon Diggs who was healthy at
Speaker 10: the time, So I think that was a big hit
Speaker 10: for the start of the year.
Speaker 6: As we sit today, which player do you think which
Speaker 6: player are you most concerned about their health moving forward?
Speaker 6: The Barbion Overshown, Dak Prescott or Trayvon Diggs.
Speaker 8: You said more concerned about, more concerned about. Ooh, this
Speaker 8: is kind of as we sit here today, Yeah, that's
Speaker 8: kind of a two way tie for me. I would
Speaker 8: have to say Trayvon Diggs just because he's coming off
Speaker 8: of these back to back knees and there's more money
Speaker 8: invested in the Trayvon Diggs than there isn't a Marvine Overshown.
Speaker 8: When you compare that they both had back to back
Speaker 8: knee injuries. That's a tough one because you have one
Speaker 8: hundred million dollars price tag on Trayvon Diggs and you
Speaker 8: need him to not only be on the field, you
Speaker 8: need him to perform, and I think there were times
Speaker 8: last year after he's really started battling with that knee
Speaker 8: around the Atlanta game, that the performance was starting to
Speaker 8: dip alongside the health, So that one hurts a lot.
Speaker 8: I think there's ways you can work around Dak. You
Speaker 8: can run the ball more, you can keep him in
Speaker 8: the pocket more, you can emphasize, you know, trying to
Speaker 8: make him a different quarterback in some ways. There's some
Speaker 8: ways you can get around making him not as a
Speaker 8: mobile moving forward, which sucks, but it might be the
Speaker 8: reality that they're facing if they want to keep him
Speaker 8: around for four years. There's not a lot you can
Speaker 8: do with Trayvon Diggs and his knees.
Speaker 9: I think it's Dak, and I think it's Dak because
Speaker 9: of the reasons you were talking about Nick and the
Speaker 9: fact that you're going to have to read and maybe
Speaker 9: this is why Briton Schottenheimro's name the head coach is
Speaker 9: because he has an understanding of Dak's limitations and what
Speaker 9: he can and cannot do. And so to me, it's
Speaker 9: going to be about can you find the running game,
Speaker 9: can you find the ability to make him a pocket passer?
Speaker 9: You know how much mobility is he going to have?
Speaker 9: Are there things you're going to have to completely eliminate
Speaker 9: from the offense that we've seen other NFL teams implement
Speaker 9: and play well with them. So, uh, the Dak the
Speaker 9: Dak injury is to me is really really big and
Speaker 9: how that I think it's going to affect the offense
Speaker 9: going forward because if they don't tailor things to him,
Speaker 9: I'm curious of how productive he can really be.
Speaker 10: I would have to agree with the Trevon Dicks one
Speaker 10: as well, because you look, initially I wanted to say
Speaker 10: the Mario overshawn, but with him, I think he's gonna
Speaker 10: be fine. He has so much working in his favor
Speaker 10: as far as like his youth. Then also his personality
Speaker 10: and how much positivism he has. I think that really
Speaker 10: affects when you're recovering from anything. His positive outlook at things.
Speaker 10: It's a very different personality than Trevon Diggs. And there
Speaker 10: are things that I've heard about him when it comes
Speaker 10: to what he's doing in let's say rehabbing or a practice.
Speaker 10: There's a certain lack of discipline discipline that I've heard
Speaker 10: there that it's gonna be challenging. He's gonna have to
Speaker 10: give it a one hundred percent and if it doesn't,
Speaker 10: then that's gonna go into the season. You're gonna see
Speaker 10: him just on to the side. We're gonna see him
Speaker 10: walking around at training camp, just watching from the sideline.
Speaker 10: So I think that's the biggest one because, just like
Speaker 10: we talked about prior, the cornerback.
Speaker 7: Position is a.
Speaker 10: Sorry there, the way you're standing right now because of
Speaker 10: our new layout is freaking me out.
Speaker 3: I'm not looking at you. Yeah, okay, somebody who's over here.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, it is freaking me out. Guys, we have, yeah,
Speaker 10: we have a new layout on the show. So it's
Speaker 10: just yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Yes, but Chris.
Speaker 10: But my point being, that's a position just like you said,
Speaker 10: you you paid the guy, you're gonna need him, and
Speaker 10: you don't have time to uh because of all the
Speaker 10: cap salary and blah blah blah. That's gonna be a
Speaker 10: key position of a guy that's a veteran guy that
Speaker 10: you need him to be able to perform, you don't
Speaker 10: have time to waste. And I think that's a that's
Speaker 10: one to keep an eye on because I know de
Speaker 10: Marvin Wovershown he's gonna give it a one hundred percent, Dak,
Speaker 10: He's gonna give it a one hundred percent. As far
Speaker 10: as the recovery and the everything that they need to do.
Speaker 10: I don't feel one hundred percent on Trevon Dicks and
Speaker 10: the way he handles things.
Speaker 8: There's there's no way this front office could have known
Speaker 8: what they had ahead of them when they signed Treyvon
Speaker 8: Dicks to that contract in the off season of twenty
Speaker 8: twenty three or training camp of twenty twenty three. But
Speaker 8: there's gonna be a lot of internal knee slapping if
Speaker 8: they have to let a guy like Deron Bland walk
Speaker 8: because of that contract. And it's it's it's it's a
Speaker 8: tough one because I feel like you really can only
Speaker 8: pay one or the other. And unless there's some major
Speaker 8: restructuring that can be worked out with Treyvon Diggs, uh, Yeah,
Speaker 8: Deron Blaine's gonna be a tough one to keep the
Speaker 8: keeping the fold.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's That's also one where you wonder, if you know,
Speaker 6: the traditional wisdom in the NFL says, go with the
Speaker 6: young guy right, no matter what, if they're equal, go
Speaker 6: with the young guy right. And so it does make
Speaker 6: you wonder when they get to that decision. Does that
Speaker 6: affect the decision as well, that he's the younger guy
Speaker 6: and they try to figure out some way if they
Speaker 6: can't keep both, to keep the younger guy, because I
Speaker 6: think that happens a lot in the NFL, because it's
Speaker 6: just typically it's better to have the younger guy, you know.
Speaker 6: All right, let's move on the next question, which would
Speaker 6: he performed at a level farthest from your expectation? And
Speaker 6: this is a little bit of a tricky question because
Speaker 6: when I say farthest from your expectation, your expectation could
Speaker 6: have been really high and they underachieve. Your expectation could
Speaker 6: have been lower and they overachieved. So who was farthest
Speaker 6: from what you expected from them? Of these five candidates, Cooper,
Speaker 6: Beb Tyler, Geiden Kaylem Carson, Marris Lefoul or Marshawn Neeland.
Speaker 7: Kind of a two way tie again for me with
Speaker 7: BB and lea Foul. BB.
Speaker 8: Whenever we were looking at him at camp, I know
Speaker 8: we've talked about it on this show before, but we
Speaker 8: were two weeks into camp and this guy was still
Speaker 8: snapping it all the way to a Ventura and we
Speaker 8: were like, man, this is gonna be Yeah, it was.
Speaker 8: It was nowhere close, and I was like, man, this
Speaker 8: guy might need a year of seasoning before we can
Speaker 8: throw him in at the center position. And he ended
Speaker 8: up being fantastic, so uh, And I'd have to give
Speaker 8: the same for Lea Foul. I just didn't see him
Speaker 8: being as major of a contributor that he ended up
Speaker 8: being by the end of the year. So credit to
Speaker 8: Lea Foul. I don't mention Geyton just because I had
Speaker 8: an expectation that there were going to be a lot
Speaker 8: of learning cars. Were there more than I expected, Yes,
Speaker 8: but I I think I think there was. There should
Speaker 8: have been an expectation that he was going to have
Speaker 8: some growing pains in his first year.
Speaker 9: Felt like I was wrong about Carson in a way
Speaker 9: of being this higher level, and I was wrong about
Speaker 9: Leah Foul because I didn't know that he was going
Speaker 9: to play the way he did. And those are the
Speaker 9: two that to me. The Carson one bothers me a
Speaker 9: lot because I really felt like that he was going
Speaker 9: to come in and really compete in the outside corner spot.
Speaker 9: You know the fact that they had to run through
Speaker 9: all those guys and he was part of that, and
Speaker 9: you know, him not being a training camp some as
Speaker 9: far as you know, missing with injury and time and
Speaker 9: stuff like that. Then he got hurt, you know, and
Speaker 9: then it probably was a big whirlwind for him. But
Speaker 9: unfortunately he did not play at the level that I've
Speaker 9: seen him play at Wake Force, and that bothered me
Speaker 9: a lot. And Leah foul I questioned that pick right
Speaker 9: off the jump if that really was the right pick
Speaker 9: with running backs on the board and stuff like that.
Speaker 9: But he played at a much higher level than I
Speaker 9: even was willing to give him credit for.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Leo fou he.
Speaker 10: Surpassed my expectations because the moment he stepped on that
Speaker 10: feel he there was no like misbeat, There was not confusion,
Speaker 10: and that's something that takes a lot for a rookie
Speaker 10: guy like the feeld awareness, your ability to react in
Speaker 10: the time that you need to, and he didn't miss
Speaker 10: a beat. He was on there as soon as he
Speaker 10: was giving the green light. He went on out there
Speaker 10: and started making place, tackling, hard tackler, just being aggressive
Speaker 10: in that way. So that was impressive for a guy
Speaker 10: like him to be to have so much focus and
Speaker 10: being able to take advantage of the opportunity that appear
Speaker 10: and how quickly he did it, that was impressive.
Speaker 6: I know we're running over time, but I had one
Speaker 6: more question, so we're going to try to get this
Speaker 6: one in quickly. Which which rookie do you expect to
Speaker 6: take the bigger jump in year two? Cooper Beebe, Tyler Guiden, Kln, Carson, Marris,
Speaker 6: Lea Foul, Marshawn Nelon.
Speaker 8: I would go Marshaw Neeland. I think he's gonna have
Speaker 8: an increased opportunity here. Granted with the free agent set
Speaker 8: are here at the defensive end position, with Chauncey Golston,
Speaker 8: Carl Lawston to Marcus Lawrence, there's going to be an
Speaker 8: increased availability for Marshawn Neeland. I think he takes advantage
Speaker 8: of it now that he's healthy.
Speaker 9: Thank Carson. I'm going to bet on him once again.
Speaker 9: I think the talent's there. I think he got caught
Speaker 9: in a situation with him being injured, him missing time.
Speaker 9: You know he's going to come back with a much
Speaker 9: better understanding. He gets kind of a fresh start too
Speaker 9: with the with the new secondary coach there, so hopefully
Speaker 9: he will be able to show the things. Like I
Speaker 9: said that wake Forest he was an outstanding player for
Speaker 9: the Demon Deakins, and hopefully he'll be an outstanding player
Speaker 9: for the Dallas cow which He's got that kind of ability.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with Carson as well. He's a guy
Speaker 10: we've seen him. I just think it got It was
Speaker 10: a lot. It was a lot for him for someone
Speaker 10: as young as him. You could see how offenses they
Speaker 10: they were attacking him over and over and over, and
Speaker 10: that's a lot to handle for a guy like him.
Speaker 10: Uh So, But going back to things that we even
Speaker 10: saw at training camp that he he the plays he
Speaker 10: was making. I mean, you you've seen the talent, You've
Speaker 10: seen him. He has it in him. So hopefully he
Speaker 10: can come back this year refreshed, renewed, got some self
Speaker 10: evaluation to do, and then now he can put it
Speaker 10: back into action because I think he is a very
Speaker 10: talented player. It just the situation wasn't a good one
Speaker 10: for him this past year.
Speaker 6: All right, that's a wrap. We appreciate you guys joining us.
Speaker 6: We'll be back next week. We'll get a little deeper
Speaker 6: into this offseason. We'll try to add a little flavor
Speaker 6: to this thing, maybe get a little draft some little
Speaker 6: draft talk going with our guys from the Draft Show.
Speaker 6: I think every might even have a little game for
Speaker 6: us next week. We'll see until then. For Nick Harris,
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