WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Hold the Staff 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:04.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:06.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:14.480 Cowboys Let's go. 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:16.120 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:16.639 Yes? 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:18.520 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:19.320 Absolutely? 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.680 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:28.120 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:34.560 Were with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:35.760 Derek Eagleton. 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.120 It is Wednesday, February twelfth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty, 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.200 episode number one oh two. Welcome to the latest edition 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.960 Over the Break, Live from s WBC Mortgage Studios at 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.600 the Star, presented by LG. LG's the world's number one 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:50.640 O lead TV brand for eleven years in counting See 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.240 why LG dot Com Ford slash O lead EVO. We 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.200 got the crew back together. We did not have a 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.240 show last week because so many people just decided they 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.720 didn't want to come to work. Everybody stay what except 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.440 for me, and but now we got you guys back. Happy, 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.280 everybody's back. I'm sure you got some great stories from 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.840 your uh, your trips to the super Bowl and Amber 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:11.039 had a little family trip. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:12.679 Yeah, so everybody had. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.520 Very cool land or world World. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.120 It's fun Diego's first time. So you know, that was. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.319 Great, awesome, you know, it's magical. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:23.640 But you guys coming back from the Super Bowl, and 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.679 actually I wanted to start the conversation there. Obviously, the 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.280 Eagles get their win, they get their second UH championship 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.680 in the history of their franchise. As you watch that game, 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:35.760 and I found myself doing this, I thought it'd be 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.639 an interesting question just to go around the table. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:40.000 What do you think was. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.039 The biggest takeaway you had as you put it in 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:46.039 Cowboys world and you watch the Eagles do what they did, 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.000 and obviously, knowing this is a league where it's a 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.320 copycat league, people typically look for things that are successful 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.400 when they try to do some of them, not all 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.640 of them, but some of them. What was the biggest 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.800 takeaway that you grab from that Eagles game? You're like, 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.880 that's what the Cowboys need, That's what the Cowboys need 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:03.120 to do. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.520 Can I can I look at it from a totality 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:09.080 rather than the game. You know, Stephen Jones has said 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.600 that the Eagles eventually their payday is gonna come as 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.200 far as all the investments that they've made into into 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.160 their roster, and he's right, But how much do you 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.880 balance that with sacrificing it for the now and trying 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.400 to push for a Super Bowl for the now? And 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.520 Jerry Jones said last offseason, and he said again on 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.639 the NFL Honors Red Carpet and New Orleans last Thursday night, 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.519 Is said, we're not building for the future. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:32.440 We're trying to win now. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.040 And I think if that's truly the case, then they 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:36.960 can look at what the Eagles have done as far 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.200 as Okay, hey, we we're gonna shorten our window by 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.920 about two years by investing so much on both sides 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.640 of the wall here, but it's gonna give us a 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.120 better chance during that window. And obviously it worked out 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.400 for Howie Roseman. He gets to put a ring on 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.200 his hand and you know, whenever those whenever the cap 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.920 hell is coming around the corner, then he can wipe 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:57.160 it with a ring on his hand, you know. And 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.639 I think you have to balance that, and that's the 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.440 balance act of a GM. It's what makes this league 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.720 difficult from a GM's perspective. But I think that's one 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.280 thing I look at and saying, like, hey, the Rams 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:09.919 sacrificed it, they got to ring out of it. The 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.160 Buccaneers sacrifice it, they got to ring out of it, 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.080 and now the Eagles have done the same thing. So 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.959 you wonder maybe that's maybe that's the bread and butter 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:18.080 figuring this thing out. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:22.080 It's about really the ability to navigate the draft and 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.760 then free agency. How important both of them are. If 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.520 you look at the key player, even though he didn't 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:30.200 play the key role in that game with Barkley and 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:31.840 going out and getting they made the commitment to go 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.400 out and get him, spend eleven million dollars to get 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.880 that particular player, even though there's like you know, the 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.520 injury history and all that, the draft was outstanding for him. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.000 Cooper Degene, you know, you look at Quintin Mitchell. You 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.640 look at those guys and the way that they played 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.400 with with that, with those guys and the secondary, the 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.400 draft picks that they made throughout the Georgia kids are 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.040 starting to show up now. I mean there was you know, 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.720 that was something they had multiple first round picks, they 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.760 moved around, you know, they they the earmarked players and 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.320 were able to get them. Some players fell right to them. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.480 They made the picks. It just showed me how important 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:11.960 is they balance between the free agency and the draft 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.080 is the building the football team. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.440 I wanted to ask you something and this is not 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.279 U because I completely agree with your point, and this 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.800 is not to argue with it, but me with someone 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:28.120 that's not one hundred percent super knowledgeable with the cap 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.720 and the money and all of that. But right, it's 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.200 so complicated. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:33.440 Even the people that work. 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:40.760 But at what point do you get to that because 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:45.640 we keep hearing, okay, your your hands are so tied, right, 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.760 but when when do you get to a point that 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.960 you can actually make those moves or have the ability 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.679 to put that kind of money and invest in that way. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.560 Let's we can put it from the Cowboys perspective. Yes, easy, Yes, 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:05.440 this offseason specifically, and you go on spow Track or 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.200 you go on over the Cap, and yes, there are 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.599 things you can do with the current cap number that 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.880 the Cowboys have available going into this offseason. However, it's 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.440 not as easy as just clicking a button on Spowtrack 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.920 or over the CAAP dot com. Yes, you could restructure 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.680 Terrance Steal this offseason. Yes, you could restructure Trayvon Dix. Yes, 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.359 if you got a Michael Parsons deal done today, that 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.279 could allow you to push some of that money down 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.359 the line and maximize the two to three year window 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.279 that you have right now. Yes, and I think that 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.919 should be priority number one when you go into this 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.080 offseason and saying like, hey, we need to get Michael 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.400 Parsons done before March twelfth, when the new league year hits, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.120 so we know what we're spending in free agency. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.160 If I were the Cowboys, that's what I would be saying. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.039 But you can move some of those things along to 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.719 create more money for now, and that's you look at 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.000 what Philadelphia did last year as far as getting Jalen 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.960 Hurts done early, DeVante Smith done early. It allowed them 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:53.479 to kind of figure out what they want to do 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.320 as far as pushing that money down the line. They 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.240 were able to bring in Saquon Barkley, they were able 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.000 to bring in Zach Bond, who's a Defensive Player of 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.920 the Year candidate. And granted, they're going to have to 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:03.760 pay that bill when that time comes because they push 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.039 that money down the line, so that that ninety million 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.320 dollars cap hit or whatever for Jalen Hurts, it's coming 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:09.200 in twenty seven. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:10.800 I think that's coming, and that's going to. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.720 Be really difficult to get out of but they got 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.839 a ring out of it, So it's it's from the 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.159 Cowboys perspective. I think they don't want to be in 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.640 that situation at any point in time, so they don't 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.240 create that. And part of that's respectable. But I think 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.000 also you also have to look at, Okay, some a 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.520 lot of these teams that are winning rings and have 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.000 rings on their hand they've sacrificed. Does there come up 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:35.919 points where you eventually have to sacrifice? 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.200 But I also think part of it is I think 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.160 they did it, they did it a different way, but 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.560 the amount of money that they spent primarily on their 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.160 own players in that two thousand to two thousand and 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.839 three window, that was really their window. Like they had 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:56.080 a team that they built that was on paper good enough. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:57.040 To do some stuff. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.640 They just missed their window, in my opinion, now they're 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.880 having then they had to pay the piper last year, 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.720 Like it was like, Okay, now you got to pay 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.080 the bill on what you've had the last three years, 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.720 and you didn't get to that promised land with the 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.520 strategy you took the players you decided to pay. Now 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.480 they never went all in like the Eagles. From the 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.200 standpoint of we're gonna go out and free agency and 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.280 spend that kind of money. But they certainly were spending 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.520 money on their own guys and resigning their own guys, 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.640 and so I just believe like they had a window. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.600 They just didn't achieve what they wanted to achieve in 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:29.160 that window. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:30.400 Yeah, I think that's fair. 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.520 I was just curious because I was looking up Jalen 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.280 Hurts because he doesn't he never makes more than fifty 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.240 million dollars a year, and that and to the void 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.960 the the cap pit you're talking about the ninety seven 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:46.080 million that comes in twenty twenty nine. Yeah, I mean 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.960 he makes his cap number this year. 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:50.000 How long is this deal? 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.240 His deal, his deal actually goes through, He's got they've 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.840 got voidable years going through this thing all the way through. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.600 It looks like twenty thirty two. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:00.800 Wow. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:02.680 So when he did it, it was like a Yeah, 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.120 they got him for They got him on his rookie deal. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:06.960 They got him to sign it on his rookie deal. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.920 His cap number this year was thirteen and a half 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.360 million dollars. His cap number next year is twenty one eight. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.160 The following year is thirty one nine. Very manageable for 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.800 the cap the cap year in twenty twenty seven, forty 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.920 two to one, twenty twenty eight, forty seven to five, 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.080 and then you get the and then you get the 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:25.640 ninety seven million dollars. 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.000 Now, of course they're gonna have to do something with that. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.080 You would have to, but they might be thinking about it, like, 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.080 but he's signed be at thirty one mins old. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.920 Yeah, he'll be thirty one years old in twenty twenty nine, 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.079 so they'll they'll figure out some other way and then 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.600 that's probably where they'll have to pay him, if you know. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.000 But think about that. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.679 I mean they've got him from from from well this 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.960 year until twenty twenty nine, and he's there, he's not 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.200 making more than fifty million dollars a year. 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.120 Yeah, you look at aj Brown in twenty thirty his 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:54.960 cap number is fifty three and a half million. 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.880 I mean that there's there's a lot of Steven Joones 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.000 is right. The bill is going to have to be paid. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.720 But they got but they got a window of what 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:03.720 four or five years where they can. 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.400 Just kind of twenty twenty eight to really run this 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.000 thing up. So I mean that's a hell of a window. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:11.080 And they got a ton of talent. 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.000 Window they got a talent. And I'll put. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.480 It to you like this, And this is what jumped 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.800 out to me as I was watching that game that 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.160 I think every team in the NFL. You hear it 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.880 said all the time, but everybody doesn't really invest in. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.920 It the same way. The trenches matter. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.760 If you've got the better offensive and defensive line, you 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.440 will win. And we saw it play out in that game. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.200 They were playing the best quarterback on the planet and 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.360 he couldn't be the best quarterback on the planet because 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.560 their defensive line was too ferocious. They just couldn't be 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.880 And by the way, they have the best offensive line, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.440 so they were able to protect their quarterback and they 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.160 weren't able to get the kind of pressure on him. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.040 The trenches were where that game was won and lost. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.000 And I think that's that was the takeaway for me. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.280 And then you want to apply it to the Cowboys 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.080 and I'm like, Okay, look at the offensive line. Man, 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.280 there's a bunch of question marks on that offensive line 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.280 right now. Other than Tyler Smith. You don't have another 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.280 guy that you say, yes, that is he is where 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.000 he needs to be. There a lot of guy. 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:10.400 What we know about. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.000 BB is he looked pretty good as a rookie. He's 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.080 got a lot of development to do. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.480 So if he keeps developing, great, that's still a question mark, right, Yeah. 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.800 I mean so guid In same thing. Like Guiden had 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.160 some moments that were pretty good. He's got some developing 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.640 to do. You know, still had a better second half 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:25.400 than the first half. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.720 But is he like is that is that a sign 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.640 of things to come that he's going to have more 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.880 of the bad games and the good games the time 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:32.240 goes on? 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.440 You know, are you going to have Zach Martin back? 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.040 And is so is he going to be healthy? 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.440 Like you have all these question marks on that side 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.200 of the ball, On the defensive side of the ball, 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.079 you got just as many, if not more questions about 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.520 where you are right now. So I think just looking 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.280 at the trenches, just looking at the trenches alone, I 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.600 think the Cowboys have a lot of questions answered. If 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.800 everything works out and everybody meets the standard of what 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.160 they're of those questions, great it works. There are a 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.640 lot of questions there, and I think that's the part 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.160 where I'm like, if I'm going into this offseason and 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.000 you start talking about draft as you guys are doing 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.200 on the Draft show, I would be looking at this 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.280 thing saying, man, build my lines. 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:09.120 Build my lines. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.160 That's why that's what I got out at Super Bowl. 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.760 Build my offense and build my defensive line. I can 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:14.920 make everything else work. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:16.160 It's tough. It's a discussion. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:17.599 I know we've had a couple of times already on 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.760 the draft shows the offensive line. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.280 When do you start investing on the end. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:22.880 Do you want to go three out of four years 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.880 picking in the first round on offensive line? 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.080 And they did it when it worked for them back 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:28.480 with that that last crew they had. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.040 Right, certainly, certainly there's a case to be made for it. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:36.720 There was those guys though, were collegiately. They played a 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.360 lot more than what you had with Geyton. Yeah, you 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.960 know guys, Frederick Martin, you know those guys. They they've 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.240 played they yeah, they played you know Smith, They've played 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.280 a lot of football in college. 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:50.800 The problem is Smith. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.280 Came out after eleven. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.360 He came out after his junior year. Right, did all 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:56.720 of them come out after their junior year? 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.960 I think I think I think the scene I think, uh, 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.800 I think Frederick and Martin were seniors because they Yeah, 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:05.679 I mean they played a ton, They played a ton 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.200 of football. The thing about is you caught Geyiton on 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.880 the tail end of the tackles in the draft last year. 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.040 You know you you caught him on the tail end, 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.160 and that's that's you know you're picking. You're picking twenty 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.440 eighth and you're looking at a tackle and you you 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.480 know you picked him, and that's you know, he has 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.240 not played a lot of football. Bbe played a lot 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.520 of football and didn't look the learning curve for him 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.360 didn't look as steep as what it looked for Guiton, 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.720 you know. And I think that's you know, the problem 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.400 that I have with this draft. And I'm not going 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.079 to speak for Nick. If you're told me to fix 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.679 the trent, to fix the trenches, I feel better about 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.400 fixing it with defensive linemen than I do offensive lineman 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.120 right now. It's because of the talent pool and the 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.960 talent pool and then and I think there's a I 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.520 think there's a really big unknown for a lot of 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:55.680 these offensive. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:56.600 Linemen and you want to see a playout. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.800 I you know what, it scares the f out of 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:01.360 me right now, to be honest, if. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:02.800 You were the personnel guy in there, you'd be like, 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:03.560 I don't know. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:05.280 I mean, I I have, I have. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.600 I have really good feelings about I feel have really 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.199 good feelings about the defensive tackle group. I have really 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.120 good feelings about the running back group. I have good 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:18.920 feelings about the wide receiver group. In a way, I 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.360 actually have a good feeling about the corners in this draft, 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.439 I don't I'm gonna have to go into free agency, 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.800 you know, I'm gonna have to figure out do I 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.760 want to? And I was looking at over the cap 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.400 on this. You know, when you talk, we're not allowed 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.000 to talk about guys that are contracting on the orion teams. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.320 Okay, unless they're gonna be a free agent. 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:41.160 Okay, O our linebacker Kansas City, right, Okay, is he 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.200 he's I think he's a I think he's a free agent. 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:43.400 For it. 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:44.720 Let's make sure he's a free agent. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.880 Yeah, I know, But I'm just saying. We got your 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.920 point though, we get okay, But I would rather, I 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.600 would rather. I would rather spend money on that than 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.760 I would spend money on what I what I know 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.079 right now, what I what I know. I think I'm 0:13:59.120 --> 0:13:59.720 right about. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.560 What you know right now? On the on the on 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:02.079 the Guy. 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.840 Osa, Golston, Lewis, those kinds of guys. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.199 Yeah, Nick Bolton will be a free agent. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.800 Thank you. Okay, Nick Bolton, I just I thought I 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:16.080 was right about that. But Nick Bolton, Okay, I don't 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.320 have a linebacker that. I don't have linebackers that I 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.520 could just say that's my guy, that's my guy, that's 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.880 my guy. It's just not a deep position. And if 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.800 you look at the valuation of Nick Bolden as a player, 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.920 he's basically he's on a rookie deal, but he's like 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.560 a nine million dollar player. So you're probably going to 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.760 have to spend twelve million dollars to get Nick Bolton 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.120 is here. But then, but if you look at the 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.440 valuations of guys like Golston nine million dollar player or 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.880 or Osa, which might be a twelve to thirteen million 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:52.080 dollar player, give me the linebacker over what I know 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:56.000 with with Osa and what I know with with Golston. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.040 In that kind of situation, I would rather I think 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:03.160 I could I could draft, I can draft the defensive line. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.520 I don't know if I could find the linebackers for you. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.160 So if I get a guy, it's a stud linebacker. 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.200 And these scouts, right, now are gonna, you know, they're 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:12.960 starting to meet with the coaches because they got the 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.840 staff together, and now Flus will be able to tell them, hey, 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.720 I like this type or I like that type, and 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.840 the linebacker I like this type and I like you know, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.520 they'll be able to kind of map that out. But 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.720 I just feel that to me, if I have to 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.360 spend thirteen million dollars on os, I would rather spend 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.120 nine to ten million dollars on Bolton, the linebacker from 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.280 Kansas City. That's what I would rather do. 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:34.720 All right, let's take our first break. 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.400 When we come back, I want to talk about some 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.280 of the hires that we have not talked about for 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.440 this coaching staff, particular offensive coordinator and what he could 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:42.720 potentially bring to the table. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.480 Do that when we come right back. This is Dallascowboys 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:45.200 dot Com Radio. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.360 Todd thought it would be secure to jog and the 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.080 cheat of Savannah. 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I think there's 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.600 an emphasis being taken right now to running the ball 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.720 that they want to. They want to run the ball 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.639 with this new system Schottenheimer talked about in the presser. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.320 Dak mentioned it yesterday at the Children's Cancer Fund event, 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.400 and you look at the hires that they've made. They 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.719 are trying to emphasize marrying what Schottenheimer can do from 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.000 a West Coast passing perspective with an efficient run game, 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.960 and the Clayton Adams hires a big, big key of 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.920 that coming from the Cardinals as their offensive line coach. Obviously, 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:34.560 I'm going to throw some numbers at you and let 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:36.919 me know if it starts getting too confusing, Derek, But 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.480 this is the splits that Arizona had last year when 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.200 it came to run concepts, and I'm going to compare 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.600 those numbers with the Cowboys numbers from last year. So 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:50.679 inside zone runs Arizona ran nineteen point six percent of 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.680 the time last year compared to the Cowboys thirty one 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.879 point one percent, so a lean, heavy on not a 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:00.000 lot of creativity. Same could be said with outside zone. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.280 When it came to inside zone and outside zone, the 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.040 two most common runs that you'll see in the NFL. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.879 The Cowboys ran one of those two fifty three point 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.479 seven percent of the time. You compare that with the 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.360 Cardinals from last year. I'm trying to do quick math 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.920 in my head, thirty nine point one percent last year. 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.000 But the one that really sticks out to me and 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.200 the one that I think will really help benefit this 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.800 not only this running game, but this offensive line group 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.719 is the poll lead run that is getting an offensive 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.440 lineman out in space, having him run down field and 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:34.000 and you know, pull guys from across the angle blocks 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:38.320 angles than line scrimmage one on one blocks. And Arizona 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.080 ran that fourteen point two percent of the time last 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.800 year on one hundred and twenty three carries. Compare that 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.920 to the Cowboys eleven point nine percent on ninety nine 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:48.920 carries last year. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:50.440 So there's going to be. 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.439 A lot of different things that you see with with 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.600 this run game, and the Clayton Adams hire is a 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.040 big part of that. I think you marry that with 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:02.080 offensive line coach Connor and what Kansas State has done 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.960 from a creative running perspective with goos Vaughan, with DJ 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.560 Giddens over the course of the last three years. You 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.119 were going to have a creative run game finally, and 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.040 I am so happy to say that right here. 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:14.040 So here's my question. 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.920 You talk about that, do you have the offensive line 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:20.040 personnel to be able to do those things. 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:21.080 You hope you will? 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.080 At right tackle you do, yes, I agree, At center 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.760 you do, At left guard you do. Now we'll see 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.240 with what happens who's the left tackle, if it's Guiden 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.919 or if it's somebody else. But the one thing some 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:35.320 of the better plays that Geiiton did have if you 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.520 watch Oklahoma tape, was him getting out in space. So 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:40.760 the pind and pull stuff is really. 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.639 Just that's actually easier blocks. 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.280 So simple because you just and the the you said 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:50.080 eleven percent Dallas on the that's cracked toss. That's you know, 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.240 we saw how they get the ball to the outside. 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.600 It's take the receiver, crack the edge, then kind of 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.520 pull guys on the outside and and Dallas had some 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:02.720 success doing that. So, uh, yeah, the center got better 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:07.320 second level during the season. The right tackle is clearly 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.280 athletic enough to play pen and poll, I agree, and 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.520 then the and then but in the left guard is 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.240 athletic enough to play pen and pool. So you're gonna 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.480 have to kind of figure out though the other spots, 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:20.000 if that's what I think. The thing that tells me 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.879 that I look at those numbers is that people that 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.600 that Arizona got to a point where they were like, listen, 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.520 you try and stop us doing this. We're going to 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.879 do this. They're able to kind of adjust. And and 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.040 the thing that I heard about Adams as a coach 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:36.000 from talking to people with the Cardinals is that he 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:39.480 is a guy that will coach veterans and rookies the same. 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.400 He'll cook, he'll coach them hard, but not to the point. 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:44.200 I mean, he's more of a teacher kind of a guy, 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.359 not a yellow screamer guy. But he this is where 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:51.639 guys like needs Godon needs a reset, you know, Goidon 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:56.240 needs a reset on. Okay, maybe a different voice. We saw, 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.720 you know, we saw what happened with with Steele when 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.320 Philbin left. It kind of you know, that was Philbin 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:04.200 was his guy. So I think that if you tell 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.439 me that I have a coach that will work with 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.359 rookies and veterans the same way and teach them the 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.200 same way. That gives me some hope for guiding and 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:13.240 going in the future. 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:15.879 I'm glad you mentioned Steel because I think these hires 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:19.000 that they have made that benefit the offensive line benefit 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:20.000 Terrence Steel more than. 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:21.399 Any five of those guys up front. 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.800 When you when you can maximize his athleticism, get him 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.040 active in the run game once again rather than just 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:29.960 point of attack blocking, you know, front, I think it's 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.000 going to really help Terrence Steele moving forward. 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:38.439 Well, I what I like the best is obviously the 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:42.840 running aspect of it. But the point that the Cowboys 0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:47.640 and Schottenheimer, they all decided to go and hire somebody 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:51.720 that has exactly the qualities and the skills where you're 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:56.040 lacking that they and that doesn't always happens when the 0:23:56.080 --> 0:24:00.760 Cowboys go out and hire somebody that you're like familiar, yeah, 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:04.760 like okay, what else are they bringing to the table. 0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:08.640 But this is someone that is clearly bringing something that 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.080 you have been struggling with and we're unable to truly 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.879 find the answers to it. Got better at the end 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:18.560 of the season, but you clearly needed a change there. 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.359 So that's the biggest thing that I like is the 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:26.200 fact that it's refreshing to finally be able to feel 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:30.040 like you addressed an issue, and that isn't always the 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:33.640 case when the Cowboys do hiring or get somebody in here. 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:35.440 Kind Of to that same point, I got to give 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:39.040 Brian Schottenheimer credit because twenty five years as an assistant, 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.200 you run into a lot of coaches, you run into 0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.560 a lot of relationships, you build a lot of relationships. 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.040 Obviously he's a relationships guy. 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.359 I got to give him credit for stepping outside of 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.160 his comfort zone and building the staff and bringing in 0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:52.960 the right guys. And you know, Clayton Adams isn't a 0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.680 guy that he has experienced with. Then Connor Riley is 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.160 not a guy he has experienced with. There's multiple guys 0:24:58.200 --> 0:24:59.720 you could say that about on the offensive side of 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.119 the ball. Granted, they retained two guys that were on 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.080 staff already, but I think you ask anybody, those are 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.920 two staffer retentions that you would have wanted. So I 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.240 gotta got a credit Shotenheimer for doing that. 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.320 Yep, all right, let's talk about. 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:16.280 Excuse me a couple of the other position coaches who 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.040 have been hired Connor Riley. You mentioned offensive line coach 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.280 from k State, Junior Adams coming from Oregon as wide 0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:24.480 receivers coach, and Derek Foster as a running back coach 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:25.360 running backs coach. 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.160 Tell what you like about some of those guys. 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.920 The first thing that popped in my mind is running backs, 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:32.760 so we can start there, just because it's going to 0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.240 be a position group that gets a lot of conversation 0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.240 this offseason, whether we're talking about the draft, when do 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:40.800 you take one? Do you take one early? Do you 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:41.440 take one late? 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:42.080 Uh? 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.280 Free agency? Do you do you grab one then or 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:46.960 do you wait and grab two in the draft? There's 0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:49.080 gonna be a lot of free running back discussions that 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:50.240 we have, not only in this show, but on the 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:53.800 Draft Show. Derek Foster when you when you factor in 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:58.399 his evaluation of running backs, He's drafted three running backs 0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.000 as a running backs coach in his time over the 0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:03.399 course of the last five or so years. Have not 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.919 loved the resume as far as who he's brought in. 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:07.880 The best running back that he has drafted, the only 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.320 one that is still in the NFL is Isaiah Spiller 0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.960 and hasn't done a whole lot obviously, so I wonder 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.159 how much he will get when it comes to the 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.800 evaluation of these guys. But you look at how Derek 0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.280 Foster has maximized what he has gotten at the running 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.040 back position, I think there's a lot to like there. 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.439 You could look at Austin Eckler when he was kind 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.080 of overseeing his rise for the Chargers. You could look 0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.480 at Kamara this last year when Kamara was healthy and 0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.400 we were talking earlier in the year about Kamara being 0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.560 an Offensive Player of the Year candidate before the Saints 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.800 fell off a cliff. So I think I think as 0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:41.200 far as marrying the run with the receiving game out 0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.280 of the backfield, Derek Foster is a good higher there. 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.560 Yeah, you know, you start to talk about with Adams 0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.840 the wide receivers coach, you know, that's gonna that's a 0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.320 really that's a big hire. That's a that's a group 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.639 of you know, Dallas has got to figure out some 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.919 things at the at the receiver room, whether that's you know, 0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:01.399 with Tolbert and you know players currently behind Lamb. You know, 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.639 this is a pretty deep group that Nick and I 0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.120 are talking about with you know, the guys that can 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.720 play the exposition, play on the line, allow CD to 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.560 kind of have some of the movement stuff that he needs. 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:15.840 But uh, it's interesting that they went the collegiate route here. Uh, 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.560 you know, because usually it's a group. It's kind of 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.560 a that wide receiver room usually has a lot of 0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:24.359 egos and usually so you just wonder, maybe you have 0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:26.679 to have a player that relates or excuse me, a 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:29.520 coach that relates to the players, and you know, hopefully 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.520 he can get the maximum out of these guys. I 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.320 do think they're going to have to address this thing 0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.720 through the draft, you know, I think they're going to 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.640 have to get better at that position, so you know, hopefully, 0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.040 I mean, you know, we'll connect the dots here on 0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.520 the show because you know, Tess Johnson, who is a 0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.440 wide receiver from Oregon, is a very talented receiver. People 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.439 will probably connect the dots here that you have an 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.600 Oregon coach that maybe if you go and get a receiver, 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:53.800 but he's very similar to some of the guys you have, 0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.840 so it might you know, we'll see how that all 0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.800 plays out. But that the fact that they've gone after 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.960 these collegiate coaches is an interesting way of navigating things. 0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:06.560 All right, let's take our final break. 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.000 When we come back, we will talk about Actually, we'll 0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.440 do our season and review. We've been wanting to get 0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:12.919 to this for a few weeks now, but now the 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.480 Super Bowl is over and we are clearly into the 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:19.159 offseason and it's time to start evaluating players and looking forward. 0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.600 I'll take one more look back at the twenty twenty 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:25.560 four season and get some bigger overall thoughts on what 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:27.640 we saw and what we think it means going into 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.760 twenty twenty five. 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Let's start 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.640 our season in review. I'm going to start this with 0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.680 this big picture question. If you had one word that 0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:24.040 would describe the twenty twenty four season for the Dallas Cowboys, 0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:30.920 which of these three best describes Disappointing, frustrating or predictable? 0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:37.640 Disappointing, disappointing in the fact of injuries, in the fact 0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:42.000 of team performance, and the fact of offensive performance too. 0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.000 You can factor it in before the injuries even got involved. 0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.240 Look at Dak Prescott's play. He was on pace to 0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.360 set his career high in interceptions at a certain point, 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:53.640 you look at any facet of the game. 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.120 The run game was disappointing. That was a little bit 0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:57.280 more predictable, but. 0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:02.000 The overall offense success was disappoint The pass rush before 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:04.120 Michael Parsons was able to come back into the equation 0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.360 was disappointing. UH seven to ten overall is disappointing. 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:14.160 I would say expected because to me, you look at 0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.000 the situation with the with the you know, the coach 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.040 on a one year deal, the you know, the staff 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:22.600 on a one year deal. I mean, what were you 0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.600 really expecting here, you know? I mean you, yeah, the 0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:29.040 injuries and all that. You had some of the same problems, 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.720 and there are things you saw during training camp that 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.560 that bothered you. You know, as the season was, you know, 0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.400 you're like, well, man, this is not going to be good. 0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:39.600 So in a way, it's you kind of got what 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.000 you You kind of got what you were expecting, that 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:46.120 that this was going to be a struggle because of 0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.280 the front office saying, hey, the coach is on this, 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.280 the coaches are on this, got a new coordinator here. 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.200 You know, it just seemed to me that there was 0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.480 it just never was going in the right direction once 0:32:58.520 --> 0:32:59.520 we left Oxnard. 0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:05.479 I would say predictable because even though there are times 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:10.560 that you're hoping and you get into the emotions and 0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:15.680 you think, oh, they're gonna do better than it's that 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:20.000 hard over logic type of battle there. But when you 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.240 go back to the beginning of training camp and when 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.720 you go back to how the year the game ended 0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.840 against Green Bay and you talk Derek about missing that window. 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.720 You missed that window. You knew the struggles you were 0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:36.440 heading into training camp with. And then even at training camp, 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:42.600 you start having those practices with the Rams and you 0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:46.520 see these battles and you see them getting beat and 0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.960 you're like, Okay, am I really seeing what am I seeing? 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.560 And you're not really wanting to believe it. But if 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.720 you look at that like that, it reflected back to 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.120 all the way back to training camp and those battles 0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:01.480 where they kept getting beat. So it's just a lot 0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:05.680 of it pointed to that season being bad. That was 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:09.280 gonna be bad in a lot of different ways because 0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:13.640 of the resources that you no longer had prior because 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:18.880 of the previous year. So but also I didn't predict 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:22.759 the defense to have players that would play as well 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.799 as they did, So that's another thing. There were a 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.440 lot of players that played a lot better than I 0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.560 expected them to in the second half of the season. 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:37.120 So I don't know, it was disappointing, frustrating, and predictable 0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.440 because you already knew you you were heading into a 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.040 season with a lot of struggles. 0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:46.080 You know, I actually said frustrating because I think going 0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.680 back to even training camp, I think we all agreed 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.440 there were things that they needed to do in order 0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.480 to have success, and the big one was the running game, 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.200 and I think we I think we. 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:57.120 Said it over and over. 0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.279 You got to give them an opportunity to s show 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.120 you that they can run the ball, and they were 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.280 not willing to do it at the part of the season. 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:06.799 And so for me, it was frustrating because I think 0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.520 there were things they could have done throughout this year 0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.600 that would have made this season better. I don't think 0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:14.160 they did them, or I think they did them too late. 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.319 And Mike Zimmer talked about how he felt like he 0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.600 had regrets because there were things he should have been 0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.480 doing earlier that he just didn't do it, and then 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.520 later he decided I'm gonna do it and things changed, right, 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.480 And so that was what was frustrating is I think 0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.640 this team was better as far as their talent is concerned. 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.440 I think they were better than what the result was. 0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.879 And I think some of that could have changed if 0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.240 they'd handled things a little bit differently from the standpoint 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.399 of how they were being coached. Yeah, all right, let's 0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.799 go to the next question, which injury do you think 0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:47.040 most impacted Dallas this season Deron Bland, Tank, Lawrence, Dak Prescott, 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.680 or Zach Martin. And you can talk about Zach Martin 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:51.799 from the standpoint of him being out there playing even 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:52.640 though he was injured. 0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:55.680 I would have to take Dak. 0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.920 Granted, this team was three and five coming out of 0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.440 that Atlanta game, if correctly, so they were already heading downward. 0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.600 But I think that ship gets corrected a lot sooner 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.120 than it did if Dak was still in the equation. 0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.600 I think that the Zach Martin one really really hurt them. 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:16.520 Uh well, I should take that back because I feel 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.440 like that, you know, some of the reasons with you 0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:21.560 know that you struggling outfits, but think about what happened 0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:25.040 when Bland didn't play and you had like seven dudes 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:29.799 having to play that position. So Zach Martin was not great, 0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:37.279 not ideal, but the cornerback rotation at there that that 0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:39.799 that just was not good enough and it not where 0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.560 it needed to be. And Bland was a big part 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:41.759 of that. 0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:46.879 Yeah, I was gonna say Bland because he has been 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.840 a big part in the secondary and I'm blank, you 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:56.480 know what was the rookie guyon Carson Paling? Carson. 0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:58.359 He poor guy. 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.440 He was thrown into the fire and it was it 0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.759 was a lot for him right off the bat. I 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.240 think that defense right out the beginning, the secondary definitely 0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.959 needed to have a durn Bland healthy again and being 0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:13.839 able to play alongside Trevon Diggs who was healthy at 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.200 the time, So I think that was a big hit 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:18.879 for the start of the year. 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:23.120 As we sit today, which player do you think which 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:27.120 player are you most concerned about their health moving forward? 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:31.520 The Barbion Overshown, Dak Prescott or Trayvon Diggs. 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.160 You said more concerned about, more concerned about. Ooh, this 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:36.920 is kind of as we sit here today, Yeah, that's 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:38.759 kind of a two way tie for me. I would 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.719 have to say Trayvon Diggs just because he's coming off 0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.479 of these back to back knees and there's more money 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.280 invested in the Trayvon Diggs than there isn't a Marvine Overshown. 0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.400 When you compare that they both had back to back 0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.680 knee injuries. That's a tough one because you have one 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:54.200 hundred million dollars price tag on Trayvon Diggs and you 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.360 need him to not only be on the field, you 0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:59.040 need him to perform, and I think there were times 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.359 last year after he's really started battling with that knee 0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:04.000 around the Atlanta game, that the performance was starting to 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:08.279 dip alongside the health, So that one hurts a lot. 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.719 I think there's ways you can work around Dak. You 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:13.880 can run the ball more, you can keep him in 0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.680 the pocket more, you can emphasize, you know, trying to 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.120 make him a different quarterback in some ways. There's some 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.640 ways you can get around making him not as a 0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.160 mobile moving forward, which sucks, but it might be the 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:25.960 reality that they're facing if they want to keep him 0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:27.839 around for four years. There's not a lot you can 0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:29.200 do with Trayvon Diggs and his knees. 0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:33.040 I think it's Dak, and I think it's Dak because 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.320 of the reasons you were talking about Nick and the 0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.040 fact that you're going to have to read and maybe 0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:40.759 this is why Briton Schottenheimro's name the head coach is 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:44.320 because he has an understanding of Dak's limitations and what 0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.879 he can and cannot do. And so to me, it's 0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.160 going to be about can you find the running game, 0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.720 can you find the ability to make him a pocket passer? 0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.640 You know how much mobility is he going to have? 0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.360 Are there things you're going to have to completely eliminate 0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.760 from the offense that we've seen other NFL teams implement 0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.239 and play well with them. So, uh, the Dak the 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:09.320 Dak injury is to me is really really big and 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.520 how that I think it's going to affect the offense 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:15.799 going forward because if they don't tailor things to him, 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:18.719 I'm curious of how productive he can really be. 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.759 I would have to agree with the Trevon Dicks one 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.319 as well, because you look, initially I wanted to say 0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:30.239 the Mario overshawn, but with him, I think he's gonna 0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.480 be fine. He has so much working in his favor 0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:39.080 as far as like his youth. Then also his personality 0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:43.399 and how much positivism he has. I think that really 0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:48.120 affects when you're recovering from anything. His positive outlook at things. 0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:52.480 It's a very different personality than Trevon Diggs. And there 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:56.200 are things that I've heard about him when it comes 0:39:56.280 --> 0:40:02.360 to what he's doing in let's say rehabbing or a practice. 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:06.600 There's a certain lack of discipline discipline that I've heard 0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.680 there that it's gonna be challenging. He's gonna have to 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:12.440 give it a one hundred percent and if it doesn't, 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:16.440 then that's gonna go into the season. You're gonna see 0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:18.799 him just on to the side. We're gonna see him 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.719 walking around at training camp, just watching from the sideline. 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.000 So I think that's the biggest one because, just like 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:29.920 we talked about prior, the cornerback. 0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:30.239 Position is a. 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.640 Sorry there, the way you're standing right now because of 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:37.680 our new layout is freaking me out. 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:44.319 I'm not looking at you. Yeah, okay, somebody who's over here. 0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:49.560 Yeah, yeah, it is freaking me out. Guys, we have, yeah, 0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.319 we have a new layout on the show. So it's 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:53.640 just yeah, it's. 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:56.799 Yes, but Chris. 0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.799 But my point being, that's a position just like you said, 0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:01.920 you you paid the guy, you're gonna need him, and 0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:05.680 you don't have time to uh because of all the 0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:09.000 cap salary and blah blah blah. That's gonna be a 0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.640 key position of a guy that's a veteran guy that 0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.200 you need him to be able to perform, you don't 0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.200 have time to waste. And I think that's a that's 0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:18.880 one to keep an eye on because I know de 0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.680 Marvin Wovershown he's gonna give it a one hundred percent, Dak, 0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:23.600 He's gonna give it a one hundred percent. As far 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.719 as the recovery and the everything that they need to do. 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:30.120 I don't feel one hundred percent on Trevon Dicks and 0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:31.440 the way he handles things. 0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:34.000 There's there's no way this front office could have known 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:35.880 what they had ahead of them when they signed Treyvon 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.879 Dicks to that contract in the off season of twenty 0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:40.920 twenty three or training camp of twenty twenty three. But 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.120 there's gonna be a lot of internal knee slapping if 0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:44.919 they have to let a guy like Deron Bland walk 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.840 because of that contract. And it's it's it's it's a 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:49.680 tough one because I feel like you really can only 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:53.200 pay one or the other. And unless there's some major 0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:56.640 restructuring that can be worked out with Treyvon Diggs, uh, Yeah, 0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:58.400 Deron Blaine's gonna be a tough one to keep the 0:41:58.560 --> 0:41:59.120 keeping the fold. 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:02.680 Yeah, that's That's also one where you wonder, if you know, 0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.279 the traditional wisdom in the NFL says, go with the 0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.200 young guy right, no matter what, if they're equal, go 0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.440 with the young guy right. And so it does make 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.800 you wonder when they get to that decision. Does that 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:17.239 affect the decision as well, that he's the younger guy 0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:19.640 and they try to figure out some way if they 0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:21.520 can't keep both, to keep the younger guy, because I 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.560 think that happens a lot in the NFL, because it's 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.279 just typically it's better to have the younger guy, you know. 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:29.480 All right, let's move on the next question, which would 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.360 he performed at a level farthest from your expectation? And 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:33.959 this is a little bit of a tricky question because 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:37.399 when I say farthest from your expectation, your expectation could 0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.919 have been really high and they underachieve. Your expectation could 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:44.120 have been lower and they overachieved. So who was farthest 0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.600 from what you expected from them? Of these five candidates, Cooper, 0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:52.760 Beb Tyler, Geiden Kaylem Carson, Marris Lefoul or Marshawn Neeland. 0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.120 Kind of a two way tie again for me with 0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:00.319 BB and lea Foul. BB. 0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:01.880 Whenever we were looking at him at camp, I know 0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:03.840 we've talked about it on this show before, but we 0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:05.640 were two weeks into camp and this guy was still 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:08.800 snapping it all the way to a Ventura and we 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.719 were like, man, this is gonna be Yeah, it was. 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.160 It was nowhere close, and I was like, man, this 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.200 guy might need a year of seasoning before we can 0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.160 throw him in at the center position. And he ended 0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.879 up being fantastic, so uh, And I'd have to give 0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.400 the same for Lea Foul. I just didn't see him 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:25.680 being as major of a contributor that he ended up 0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.200 being by the end of the year. So credit to 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:31.880 Lea Foul. I don't mention Geyton just because I had 0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:33.400 an expectation that there were going to be a lot 0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.640 of learning cars. Were there more than I expected, Yes, 0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.840 but I I think I think there was. There should 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:40.360 have been an expectation that he was going to have 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.120 some growing pains in his first year. 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:44.799 Felt like I was wrong about Carson in a way 0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.680 of being this higher level, and I was wrong about 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:50.719 Leah Foul because I didn't know that he was going 0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:52.960 to play the way he did. And those are the 0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.480 two that to me. The Carson one bothers me a 0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:57.520 lot because I really felt like that he was going 0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:01.480 to come in and really compete in the outside corner spot. 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:03.640 You know the fact that they had to run through 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.680 all those guys and he was part of that, and 0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.120 you know, him not being a training camp some as 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.120 far as you know, missing with injury and time and 0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:13.320 stuff like that. Then he got hurt, you know, and 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.040 then it probably was a big whirlwind for him. But 0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:18.879 unfortunately he did not play at the level that I've 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:21.040 seen him play at Wake Force, and that bothered me 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:23.520 a lot. And Leah foul I questioned that pick right 0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:27.239 off the jump if that really was the right pick 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.480 with running backs on the board and stuff like that. 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.600 But he played at a much higher level than I 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.040 even was willing to give him credit for. 0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:36.920 Yeah, Leo fou he. 0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:43.400 Surpassed my expectations because the moment he stepped on that 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:51.239 feel he there was no like misbeat, There was not confusion, 0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.800 and that's something that takes a lot for a rookie 0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:58.680 guy like the feeld awareness, your ability to react in 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.439 the time that you need to, and he didn't miss 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.880 a beat. He was on there as soon as he 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.239 was giving the green light. He went on out there 0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:12.320 and started making place, tackling, hard tackler, just being aggressive 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.759 in that way. So that was impressive for a guy 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:18.920 like him to be to have so much focus and 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:22.480 being able to take advantage of the opportunity that appear 0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:25.960 and how quickly he did it, that was impressive. 0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:27.839 I know we're running over time, but I had one 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:29.239 more question, so we're going to try to get this 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.120 one in quickly. Which which rookie do you expect to 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:37.320 take the bigger jump in year two? Cooper Beebe, Tyler Guiden, Kln, Carson, Marris, 0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:39.000 Lea Foul, Marshawn Nelon. 0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.320 I would go Marshaw Neeland. I think he's gonna have 0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:46.520 an increased opportunity here. Granted with the free agent set 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.400 are here at the defensive end position, with Chauncey Golston, 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:51.799 Carl Lawston to Marcus Lawrence, there's going to be an 0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.560 increased availability for Marshawn Neeland. I think he takes advantage 0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:56.359 of it now that he's healthy. 0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:58.440 Thank Carson. I'm going to bet on him once again. 0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.560 I think the talent's there. I think he got caught 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:03.120 in a situation with him being injured, him missing time. 0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:05.239 You know he's going to come back with a much 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.960 better understanding. He gets kind of a fresh start too 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.320 with the with the new secondary coach there, so hopefully 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:12.960 he will be able to show the things. Like I 0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.239 said that wake Forest he was an outstanding player for 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:18.000 the Demon Deakins, and hopefully he'll be an outstanding player 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.040 for the Dallas cow which He's got that kind of ability. 0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:22.320 You know what. 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.960 I'm gonna go with Carson as well. He's a guy 0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.080 we've seen him. I just think it got It was 0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.600 a lot. It was a lot for him for someone 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.560 as young as him. You could see how offenses they 0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:37.000 they were attacking him over and over and over, and 0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:39.000 that's a lot to handle for a guy like him. 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:44.520 Uh So, But going back to things that we even 0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:48.640 saw at training camp that he he the plays he 0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:52.040 was making. I mean, you you've seen the talent, You've 0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:55.840 seen him. He has it in him. So hopefully he 0:46:55.920 --> 0:47:01.680 can come back this year refreshed, renewed, got some self 0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.000 evaluation to do, and then now he can put it 0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:05.839 back into action because I think he is a very 0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:10.040 talented player. It just the situation wasn't a good one 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:11.319 for him this past year. 0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:13.719 All right, that's a wrap. We appreciate you guys joining us. 0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:16.200 We'll be back next week. We'll get a little deeper 0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:18.400 into this offseason. 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