WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Lack of Buzz Before the Draft 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:04.400 Sports Radio. 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:08.360 It is a Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar, 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:13.200 Ben Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you filling in for 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:23.439 Dan and the guys here on this Thursday morning, Brady 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:30.760 LeVar found his AMMO. He was a little slow so 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:40.760 far we've seen have we seen like nine millimeters shotguns? 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:47.120 No blow dart yet he's currently pulling out. He's like, 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:56.960 job moran, Now he just detonated a bomb. There's all 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.320 sorts of stuff that does make me, what by have 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.640 a rooting interest. I would like to see Memphis get 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.760 into the postseason because hopefully John Morant is one hundred 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:09.119 percent ready to go. Because man, when the playoffs hit, 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.520 who knows what he's gonna pull out. I mean, he 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:16.000 might go he might go well wow wow, like he 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:20.880 might go musket, he might go none shucks. Like you 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.000 never know what Jamran is is working with. It's going 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.800 to have some violence connected to it though. That's that's 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.039 There's going to be a casualty at the end of 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.160 one of his celebrations. Sure will. Yeah. 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But 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:12.120 Joe Shane spoke with the media yesterday and not only 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:16.200 talked about the quarterback position as they sit at number three, 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.760 but also apparently they're getting some interest from other teams 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.040 as well too when it comes to their pick. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.160 With the signing of those two players, I think we 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.679 put our position ourselves in a position where you know, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.560 I don't think that's mandatory or something that we're our 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.320 feet of the fire and we have to do. You know, 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.079 I think the two guys we signed have played a 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.040 lot of ball, They've got a lot of skins on 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.880 the wall, and I do think we've upgraded that room, 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:39.760 you know, compared to where it was a year ago. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:40.960 I like the two guys that we have. 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:42.840 And you know, Tommy's still in there and he's won 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.200 games for us too, and we're happy with the makeup 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:45.919 of the room right now. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:47.320 We'll be open to all options. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.480 I mean those as strategy sessions have been ongoing and 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.399 you know, talking through different scenarios. So yeah, well we're 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.480 always going to be open to, you know, either or 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:56.560 of those scenarios. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.240 A lot of interests around teams looking to train up. 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:00.840 We received some calls. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.840 We receive calls, all right. Abdul Carter call. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.040 Abdul Carter is a three to one favorite to be 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.840 selected number three overall to the Giants. 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.800 So well, that doesn't mean he'll be selected by the Giants. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.640 It just means he's going to go number three overall. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.480 Yeah. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.079 I think what you said while Jonas was off that 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.200 he can't respond to because he wasn't here to hear 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:32.360 what you said, certainly, uh, certainly is more relevant and 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.000 in today's conversation than it was yesterday. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:37.280 Boy. 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.360 Professional co signing is always the best, especially when you 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:46.960 have supporters, you know, the league. Then you get Q 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.160 doing what he's doing with your You're just. 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:50.920 Laughing at it because I didn't think he was going 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:52.640 to go there. And if we really want to be honest, 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:58.840 get out of the central Cubs really struggled h only 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.279 one of two versus the podere. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:05.600 You know what, let me tell you something shown you 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:10.400 worry about staying out away of those dolphin statues that 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:11.800 you walk by that you see. 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:15.240 All right, buddy, I'm married exactly. 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:22.240 Yeah, yeah, avoid avoid them breathing holes them blow the 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:26.960 hole anyway. So the point I'm making here you asked 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.640 the question on the show, Q, does this mean they're 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:35.120 trying to drive up the value of Shador Sanders to 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:40.520 entice a team to want want him at three where 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:44.040 they can trade down because they could still possibly get 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.920 the player that they would want without using that three pick. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:50.560 I think, if I sit it correct. 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.600 I actually don't think I said any of them. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.320 Okay, well trade back at least right trade now. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.719 My thing was is there might be someone interested in 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.480 Abdul Carter because they don't have a need for Abdull Carter. 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.719 They've got On Thibeau, they've got Brian Burrce. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.920 So we want to trade back because we feel like 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.200 we could still get a quarterback or get someone else 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.320 and an exchange get more draft. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:14.120 Cap the Giants, that being the Giants in this situation, right, Okay, 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.719 So I think that's more relevant now after hearing that 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:24.279 explanation from the GM than it ever has been. Honestly, 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.120 if I'm if I'm I'm being realistic, I'm calling Cap 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.800 on some of this stuff that's coming Shador Sanders way, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.320 I'm calling Cap on that. I think people know his 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.960 talent level. I think they know what he brings to 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:41.839 the table, but in order to keep people off balance 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.920 on what it is that you would really like to do, 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.839 I think things like this happen sometimes, and it just 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:51.000 happens to be a little bit more coverage towards Shador 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.040 Sanders than what it would be maybe possibly for other 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.479 prospects in years past. But as it applies to the 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:02.040 New York Giants looking at that number three picky, if 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.520 they had no other recourse, nobody wants to offer them 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:10.400 what they want. They can't miss on this pick. They 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.200 really can't miss on this pick. And I think it's 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.400 just based upon the conversation that we had with Prisco, 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:21.040 is that they're facing losing their jobs, whether it's the GM, 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.599 whether it's the head coach, and whether they're able to 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.520 save themselves or not, it still seems to be a 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:34.839 pick that may give them some type of ammunition to 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:40.400 be able to make maybe a legitimate argument that they 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.000 should be able to retain their jobs and continue to 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.760 build this team out. I don't know how realistic that is, 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:51.200 but in listening to this, it might be way better 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.159 for the New York Giants to trade out of that 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:58.560 number three pick and hope that they can get more 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.320 draft capital and still be able to get a player 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.880 that they would really want with one of the high 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.520 draft picks that they would swap out with with the 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.560 team that would take that number three overall. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.520 Because if you got if we were looking at the 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.000 top prospects and everyone says, well, it's Travis Hunter and 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.280 Abdul Carter and you can swap either one of those, 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.240 there's going to be a team who's going to look 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.040 at the Giants if if the point is listen, they 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.040 don't need abdul Carter, they've already got that position addressed. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.040 That's going to be willing to give up a significant 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:33.280 amount for one of the top overall prospects in the draft. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.520 So if you're Joe Shane, the Giants like, why would 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.600 you like, why would you take a quarterback? Why would 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.560 you go If it's too high to take an Ashton 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.160 gent team, maybe you could drop back and and and. 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.480 But is it is it too high? I mean, didn't 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.880 they take say Quon at number two? Yeah, but it 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.720 was it was that hit. Clearly they weren't fans of his. 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.200 Clearly they made a tremendous mistake, is what they did 0:07:58.320 --> 0:07:59.720 that the draft pick. 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:03.120 Was doing different general manager right, that was David Gettleman. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.720 And then you had Joe Shander came in and you 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.840 know he didn't prioritize paying that position the same way 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:10.920 the Eagles did. 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.920 I guess, well, that didn't look good. Doesn't look good. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.400 But it was a hit. The pick was a hit. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.040 So I don't think. I don't feel Ashton Genty should 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:22.200 be talked about more. 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.960 I just I've said it. I feel it. You know, 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:29.480 I've talked about him the entire I've been talking about 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.920 Ashton Genty for at least. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.840 Two or three years now, you know what I mean. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.280 I've been really committed to talking about how really talented 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:41.280 this dude, is I've said to people, we haven't seen 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.160 him back like this since you know, Barry Sanders and 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.360 Eric Dickerson and the Pony Express and you know what, 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.600 and now people want to get on the bandwagon with 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:52.679 Ashton Genty. 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:54.600 He's not being discussed. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.520 You say it enough, people will think it's true. Right, Yeah, 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:58.920 I mean that's what. That's the point. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.559 And now what I said, you could shoot it out 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.840 there like you really meant it. Oh yeah, I'm shooting 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.040 this like I really mean it. I mean, I didn't 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.160 hear this from one Braden Quinn. I just I just 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.440 figured that this is people are starting to catch on 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.160 to Ashton Genty and I'm here to tell you seriously though, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.720 that isn't mine. I am a fan after seeing him play, 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.360 and I do think that it would be interesting to 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:27.600 see him go, you know, in top five picks top six, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.319 which is very realistic. I don't think he gets past 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:36.840 Las Vegas. I don't. Now the question becomes who would 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.920 want to make that trade with New York? Who do 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.840 we think are the teams that have shown interest that 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.319 would possibly want If it's Abdul Carter or if it's 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.720 Travis Hunter, that happened to fall to number three. Who 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.320 would those do we have beton nods on who those 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.240 teams would be? No, but I've got you know, I've 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.360 got one that can make some sense. Who go on, 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:02.400 what do you got John's the Bears? 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.480 Oh god, it does make sense now, because here's why? 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:07.760 Is that? Because hold on? 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.280 Is that because the new head coach made you know, 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:13.800 not like DeAndre Swift quite as much? 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.640 Well, I mean I think, yeah, he doesn't appear to 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.320 be a huge fan. But if it's a deep running 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.880 back draft class and you think you could get a 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.760 running back that could be quality at the next level 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.520 later on, maybe the Bears called the Giants. I'm talking 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.679 from the standpoint of Abdul Carter. Maybe they call up 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.800 and say, you can take the tenth pick, and we've 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.840 got the thirty ninth and the forty first pick as 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.720 well too. I mean, those are three picks in the 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:47.240 top forty plus. Why not if you're that interested or 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.160 you believe that you need help. From a pass rushing standpoint, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:54.640 they haven't gotten great production from Montes Sweat, especially last year, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.960 and they gave him a whole bunch of money. You know, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.160 maybe they could hit up the Giants and be like, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.920 are you would you be willing to drop back to 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.920 ten or is that too far to fall out to 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.920 still get a quality player? That's what is it? 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.120 What does it look like if you're in the top 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.040 ten to trade a pick like say, for instance, the 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:19.840 news surfacing on vverybel wanting TJ. Watt in New England, 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.440 that means you want to edge rusher. And if you're 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.440 trying to get a TJ. Watt at the type of 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.720 dollar that you were trying to you're going to have 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.760 to pay to get them. Would it make sense to 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.640 try to swap out with swap out with New York 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.400 at that at that four pick and get somebody else 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.280 That way, you'd only drop one pick back and and 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.160 then you get you know, you get the differences. 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.520 The difference is about four hundred points, which would essentially 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.199 be a second round pick. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:52.920 If you're looking at the traffic value chart. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.520 So that's typically what you would look at and say, 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.480 it's about fair compensation to be able to move up 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:00.400 or move back one pick. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:01.800 That's what you're looking for. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.640 So what that makes sense or not makes sense? If 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:09.120 you're New England, does that make sense to ensure that like, say, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:14.080 for instance, there's another team that's like in I guess 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.800 range that wants to try to slip into that third space. 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:22.959 If Travis Hunter, or more specifically, in this particular moment, 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.040 based upon New England showing interest in TJ Watt, would 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.960 you try to get that number three pick so that 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.000 somebody doesn't swipe it from you if it were to 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.320 fall through with TJ Watt in trying to get this 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.240 trade done. Possibly, I mean, it just seems like it 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.320 would make sense. If I want a defense and the 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.400 edge rusher of the caliber or TJ Watt, and there's 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.280 somebody that could possibly trade up and take abdual Carter 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.240 before we get them, maybe it's like, okay, let's swap 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.160 this pick so we can make sure we. 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.240 Get Abdul Carter at three? Does that make sense? 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.199 When's yes? When was the last time you heard anything 0:12:58.200 --> 0:12:59.680 about vrabel? 0:12:59.679 --> 0:12:59.719 And? 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:04.439 I think I read that yesterday? I'm if I'm not mistaken. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.400 Do is that fake news? I believe I read that 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.439 though that there was interest. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.840 I remember seeing a while back. I don't remember seeing 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.840 it recently. I read it yesterday. Actually, that's that's why 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.680 I even brought it up just now because I was. 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.440 I saw a headline where it was like Vrabel is 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.960 interested the New England Patriots are interested in possibly because 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.400 I guess it doesn't seem like the negotiations are going 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.160 well in Pittsburgh, doesn't. I mean, from what I read, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.680 it doesn't sound like it's maybe going to get done. 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:41.520 This draft really needs something to happen. We need an advantage. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:43.319 Well, what does it need? 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.240 I don't look, I don't condone this, I've never personally 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.720 done it. But if we could get somebody, like a 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.520 top pick to smoke weed a get out of a 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.000 gas mask, I think it would help everybody in their house. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.520 It make it that much more interesting. There's not enough trades, 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:02.599 there's not enough trade scenarios, there's not enough positive feedback 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:06.360 on quarterbacks. So and so is moving uh soaring up 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.720 the draft charts. Everything's just negative doom and gloom. If 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.760 we could really put a smile on everybody's face and 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.120 just get somebody to you know, hit the hippie lettice 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:18.480 out of a gas mask on video, and that's anymore. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:19.240 Okay, that's fine. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.080 Listen. It worked out well for him. He's made one 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.360 hundred million dollars plus in his career. I don't even 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.360 think he has an agent, Laromie Tonsel. I think he's 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.160 represented himself for what is worth. 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.040 I mean we went his weed guy helping him out. 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:32.880 We had one of the most. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:41.240 Sadly, insanely bad happenings take place based upon the draft 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.040 this year. I mean bad, super bad. I mean, that's polarizing, 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.800 sad as hell that it happened. But I mean we 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:51.360 did have something crazy that that is being talked about. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:52.200 Yeah, I know, I was. 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.440 I was kind of hoping we could, uh, you know. 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.080 Not as deep as that, because that's super deep real, 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.800 that's like all the ways submerged. Yeah, okay, I'm just saying, 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:04.400 don't don't you gonna pick and choose where we're supposed 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:05.640 to stop on the spectrum. 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.920 I mean, there's just not a lot of I'm telling you, man, 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.720 I've mentioned this before. Brady made the best point a 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:14.400 couple of weeks ago when we talked about it on 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:18.960 our show. This draft really has no buzz outside of 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.000 and that's that's the thing is. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.760 It's one of the reasons why that Shador Sanders is 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.120 getting so much buzz. I mean, he's a bit of 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.040 a polarizing figure. But there's also the element of there's 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:34.560 nothing really else around it. And outside of these three, 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:38.720 I would say four prospects outside of Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.360 Will Campbell, and Ashton Genty, if you're looking at like 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.880 top overall prospects, there's a bit of a drop off. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.560 And even with Will Campbell, people have you know, questioned 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.760 his arm length? I mean, outside of maybe Booker, for 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:54.360 a lot of the tackles, the ear least guys who 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.840 played tackle in college in this draft class, a lot 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:58.400 of these guys might get moved inside. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.880 The guard because of arm length. I'm not sure why 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:01.280 that is. 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.680 I'm not sure if guys just popping out being three 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.720 hundred plus pounds with short arms now, but something's happening. 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.600 But anyway, the general point is there's just not as 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.960 much buzz around it, surrounding it. I actually think the 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.680 most fascinating thing to me, And I don't know why 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.120 I didn't know this, and I'm a little disappointed in 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.560 you two for not knowing this. Do you guys know 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.680 that the LA rams never invite any of the top 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.600 thirty prospects in for a visit. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.920 I don't know how you would be disappointed in me 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:31.680 for not knowing that, and I don't. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.800 Because you guys are out in LA and you guys 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.600 are a little bit of like the like, Hey, what's up, man, 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.560 Let's go to Nobu over there in Melbu do our 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.800 whole like trendy thing here in the West coast. 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:43.400 What's up? Bro? 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.880 But I learned this because the new general manager, James 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.480 Gladstone with the Jacksonville Jaguars, who's you know him and 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.000 you know the rest of the scouting staff. They've implemented 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.640 the same exact strategies that the Rams would use. And 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:04.520 the reason why they don't invite in prospects at least 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.159 the top thirties because they don't want to tip their 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.639 hand to any of their team what they're going to 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.520 do in the first round. Now, they still are able 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.720 to meet with the teams or may excuse me, the 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:17.800 prospects via zoom. But that's all confidential, right. There's no 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.760 one really is saying like who the Jacksonville Jaguars are 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.800 zooming with. And when you do those visits, when you 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.919 bring players in, your medical staff is going to take 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.320 another look at them after the combine, for example. But 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.679 the combine is a pretty thorough physical evaluation, so you 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.600 don't really need much more unless there might be a 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.520 medical checkup, which again the NFL is going to handle 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.800 with the follow up checkup from the combine for those 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:43.760 guys who are still injured. So they basically you go 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.920 in on these visits, you meet some of the coaches, 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.000 you sit down and talk more. They test you on something, 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.840 you meet maybe some of the players other people who 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.160 are out there, but that's really it. They can't work 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.720 you out. So the strategy that they're implementing in Jacksonville, 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.280 the same that they have with the Rams, is something 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.520 that kind of fasts. It's me about this draft that 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.760 I don't recall ever hearing about in regards to the Rams, 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.200 Like I was not aware of that, and look, maybe 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.280 it doesn't matter. I would feel like from the prospect perspective, 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:13.919 not that you get a choice and who drafts you, 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.560 but I would want to go see like the facility, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.280 I'd want to go meet some of the players. I'd 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:19.760 want to go get a vibe for the locker room 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.240 and the organization and getting a sense of all that. Right, Like, 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.359 it's kind of weird that from the Jaguars perspective, it 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.280 might be good for them at least in regards to 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.119 how they see the first round maybe the top end 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:31.679 of the second. 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.280 But for the prospects, it doesn't help. 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:34.520 You know. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.000 I mean you're literally getting drafted, had shipped off to 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.800 a place you've maybe never been to before. It's kind 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:40.920 of crazy when you think about it. 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.560 Maybe they think, if these guys see this place, they 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.000 won't want to be here, so let's just keep it quiet, 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:47.760 you know, like if they don't know how messy the 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:51.520 situation is. And I think the RAMS isn't the RAMS 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:52.280 stuff nice? Now? 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:54.919 I mean, I guess. 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.480 The Rams get most of their attention because they were 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:02.560 doing that thing that member Cliff Kingsbury had that real 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.760 nice house. Yeah, the Rams, I guess rent like some 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.440 beach house to where they do is their Manhattan beach 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.000 or whatever? I think. I think it was in Malibu, 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.080 and I'm almost positive there was like a COVID outbreak 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.320 one year and so they couldn't even like really partake 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.560 in it. It was her Mosa Beachley at whatever Malibu, 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.000 hermos so there's water nearby. 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:24.280 I thought it was more of a South Bay, you know, 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.720 like down were like lighter and Robstone and those boys 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:28.879 are at South Bay Bros. I thought it was more 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.480 of that area only because they had like a public 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:33.480 area too, where there's like the. 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.800 Fans were involved and they could bring through some Yeah. 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.879 Which again, you you could do that in Jacksonville, like 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:42.840 you could remember that lady you know. 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:44.360 Oh they interviewed. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.719 Oh yeah, we we have that that lady. 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:50.280 Uh, she should have this. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:57.280 iHeart Jacks fan. H Yeah, we're we're exorting. We're going 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:58.480 to take it to the limit. 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:01.560 Yeah, talked about her beach house that well it's not 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.359 quite a beach house. It's well walk for the beach. 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:10.400 But yeah, she she's a big, diehard Jags fan. We're 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.800 efforting that. That sound by Uh So, let's see how 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.480 we're working behind the scenes here, a little vamped, little vamp, 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:22.800 little vamp Lee's working. Don't have it, dance Jonas. We 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.040 got nothing being I'm being shook off. We've got nothing. 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.600 I was calling for fast behind this and Lisha just 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:31.320 just give me thirty seconds. I'll send it to him. 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.159 They can turn this out. Well listen, all I know 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.840 is this is somebody's got to do something to spice 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:37.960 up this draft, all right, And and I don't know 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:39.920 what it's going to take. I don't know if it's 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:43.399