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That Deshaun Watson situation 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: as we sit here now, still not been Uh, there's 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: been nothing new has come to light on this other 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: than the fact that well the Cleveland Browns, how about 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: this have made they they talked with they met with 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's people in Deshaun Watson on Tuesday. Later in 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: the evening, Baker Mayfield puts out what is essentially a 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: goodbye letter to Cleveland. And the word is now that 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: if even if the Browns don't get to Shawn Watson, 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: they will be moving on from Baker Mayfield. They'll trade him. Presumably. 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: I would think Matt maybe to Indianapolis, indian Seattle or 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: the two i've heard. Yeah, and they both would make 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: some sense. I mean, I would have interested were those teams. 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: But what does that leave the Browns That I don't get. 30 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think DeShawn Watson is going to 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: wind up being a Brown All right, here, give me 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: a minute, because I really dug into this heavy on 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: today's podcast, and there's a lot of information I didn't 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: know until that point. And I guess it's been confirmed 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: that if you if you're one of the teams, I 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: guess that's Carolina, Atlanta, New Orleans, and now the Browns, 37 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: if you've been approved by Houston to quote meet with 38 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: Watson in Atlanta's Atlanta's meeting with them today as well. Yeah, okay, 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: that means that you sent the Texans an offer and 40 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: the Texans think it's a reasonable one, so they will 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: now give you the opportunity to quote meet with Watson. 42 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: So that means the Browns have made them some sort 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: of substantial offer. I don't know what that could be, 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, Like this was our Steeler problem with the 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: with the Watson deal. Like, Okay, I definitely want your 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: first round pick, which is sort of early. Um, I 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: went next years. What you think would go get higher 48 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: by giving them Watson? And I want two or three 49 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: players like they reportedly won five or six strong assets 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: war Watson, which I think is the going rate, and 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: that might mean second round picks. That might mean Shelby 52 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: Harris level players or no offense type players that we 53 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: saw with the Wilson deal. But like I don't want, 54 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, Kareem Hunt. I don't want, you know, I 55 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: want I want Jeremiah Koo Cormoa, and I want Greg Newsom. 56 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: You know that those are the players that I want. 57 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: Maybe I would take one of your offensive lineman that's 58 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: making big bucks, you know, but I mean it still 59 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: makes Cleveland better and they would get something back for Mayfield. 60 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: But like I don't want Mayfield if I'm Houston well 61 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: and The problem then becomes DeShawn Watson is making thirty 62 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: five million dollars this year. Um, that's his base salary. 63 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: So you know, to to make that deal for him, 64 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: he almost have to extend him and trade one of 65 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: those guys is making money or a copy because that 66 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: as we sit here right now, I just looked this up, 67 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: the Browns are currently and this will change at four 68 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: o'clock today, but they have twelve point eight million dollars 69 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: in cap space available or twelve point six million dollars 70 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: in cap space available. Okay, well you can't take on 71 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: thirty thirty five million dollar contract. You PJ guys can 72 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: figure that math out. Yeah, I mean that took just 73 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: looking at it. Here your twenty two point four million dollars. 74 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: You have to you have to clear that space. And 75 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: if you're trading young players, which is what Houston is 76 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: going to want, the offsets, the offsets be enough to 77 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: make that happen, you're gonna have to do something else 78 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: like they did yesterday cutting J. C. Trader the Trader. 79 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: They cut Tracy Trader yesterday. You didn't see you know, 80 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: they cut Hooper? They see that? Wow, I did not 81 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: see that. News boy, boy is he gonna be hot 82 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: on the market, I mean, because you don't have to 83 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: give him complex to get him. Yeah right, I mean 84 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: they we've talked about this a million times. I mean, 85 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: the Browns offense is just littered with big contract guys. 86 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: Even their backup running back and now they're third spring 87 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: running back is making two or three million a year, 88 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, let alone two tight ends, and you know 89 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: all their starters pick up a Mari's deal. I mean, 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how they make Watson work. I'd be 91 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: interested to see how it goes, but it would convince 92 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: him that there's still gonna be a good enough team 93 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: like people people are saying, well, the Falcons can't afford 94 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: to do that. Well he, first of all, Watson's from Atlanta, 95 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: and you would be think of the interested in Carolina 96 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: as well, right right? Um, you know, but obviously, you know, 97 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: part of the selling point for that would be, well 98 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: to Shaun, you know, Matt Ryan's gonna be off the 99 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: books after this year, and you know we'll have money 100 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: going into next year to make things better for you 101 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: down the road. You know. But I guess he hasn't. 102 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: He has a relationship as well with Arthur Blank. Deshaun 103 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: Watson was a ball boy in Atlanta. Oh, I didn't 104 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: know that part for a couple of years. So he 105 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: knows Arthur Blank personally from his days as being a 106 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: ball boy there and things of that nature. So they've 107 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: got a little bit of relationship there. So he may 108 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: be willing to say, Okay, I trust that you're going 109 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: to maybe we're gonna have a rough year this year, 110 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: and hey, he's gonna get suspended this year as well. 111 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: By the way, that's the thing too, As you trade 112 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: for him, maybe the next year's first round pick isn't 113 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: gonna be as high as you think, especially if he's 114 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: suspended for seventeen games or even four or six or whatever. 115 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Like if Carolina or Atlanta trades for him, that's something 116 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: you're thinking about the next decade, not winning right now. 117 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: But if Cleveland or New Orleans trades for him, I 118 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: think you're gonna look at it like, this makes us 119 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: a super Bowl contender. But not if you're losing you know, 120 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: valuable pieces and you don't have the cash phase. It's 121 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: it's an odd situation and I don't know, I don't 122 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: know that it makes you a super Bowl contender. This 123 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: year because of the suspension, right right, right exactly. You 124 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: don't know how I mean, what if it's eight games, 125 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: were nine games, you know, whatever, you know, whatever it be. 126 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: What if it's ten at least four? I think Antonia enough. 127 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown was suspended for ten games last year, correct, 128 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, he came back a little after Thanksgiving. Kid. 129 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: I can't imagine it being less than that, right, right, 130 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's got to be at least six, and 131 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: it could be the whole year. So you know, you 132 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: may trade for him, oh him thirty five million dollars, uh, 133 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, against your salary cap, and then you don't 134 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: have the player and you gave up he gave up 135 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: valuable pieces and Baker anymore, and you gave up draft picks, 136 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: and you're gonna get rid of Baker because you can't. 137 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: You know, it just doesn't make any sense to me. 138 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: Watson a side where a team that that was built 139 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: to win. Now this was their quote unquote window because 140 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: Myles Garrett's contract in future years starts to kick in 141 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: big time. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I could see this 142 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: logic for Cleveland though, Like, Okay, we can't get Watson 143 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: or that's not a smart move for us, or he's 144 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: going here. He's been going to Carolina all along, and 145 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: we would ever were in it. But it's put up 146 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: our shut up time for Baker contractually. And I could 147 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: see Cleveland saying we're not gonna give him the money, 148 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: you know where We've decided, after that awful year, all 149 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: the over injuries, that we are not going to extend him. 150 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: So if I can flip him for a fourth round 151 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: pick the Seattle or Indie and get him off the 152 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: books and not extend them, then maybe a draft Kenny 153 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: Picket and start over for the hundredth time in the organization. 154 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: Just when you thought you might have a quarterback, right, 155 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: just when you thought, you know, you had the number 156 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: one overall pick and you passed on the March action 157 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen you could have, you know, and I 158 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: get it, nobody had those two guys ranked as an 159 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: art quarterback that year. But they had the number one 160 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: overall pick, right, and he wasn't slam dunk. It wasn't 161 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: like they took Lawrence and Boy and somehow it didn't 162 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: work out. It just they didn't pick the right guy. 163 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt about that. Get a little 164 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: breaking news. You're the Raiders just like Chandler Jones. Really. Yes, 165 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: they let go of Ryan the Sebe earlier today for 166 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: cap reasons. Now they have the Chandler Jones Yeah right, 167 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: but they extended Crosby and they have the Dockway too. 168 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: You know, so their pass rushers not a problem for 169 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: them last year, it won't be again this year. I 170 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: think they're pretty set. Yeah. So yeah, you know, and 171 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: next thing, that division is just loaded with a lot 172 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: of high end talent going to be really interesting. And 173 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: the thing about that, you know, with with that just 174 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: one team now getting the buy yeah, playoffs? Are you 175 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: are you gonna bet that the Buffalo Bills have to 176 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: be looking at this and going, huh, we're gonna you know, 177 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: we're the team that has the best shot at getting 178 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: the buy. Yeah, especially in their division, those teams are 179 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: all gonna beat up on each other. I mean, is 180 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: somebody gonna go six and oh in the in the 181 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: a f C West this year? I don't think so. No, 182 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: it would be blown away if they do. Yeah. So 183 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, if you're the Bills and you okay, we 184 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: can we can get the thirteen fourteen wins um there's 185 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: a good chance we get to buy and those teams 186 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: gotta go beat up on each other in the first 187 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. Whoever makes it out of that division. Yeah, no, 188 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: I hear you. Um, where was I going with that? Oh, 189 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: there's one. Not just because you mentioned that breaking news. 190 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting and maybe this opens the floodgate. 191 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: But there's five six, seven older Edge guys, you know, 192 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: ingram And and von Miller and Jerry Hughes and you know, 193 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones was in that conversation. I wonder if all 194 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden they're gonna start falling is rotational players, 195 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't look like they're gonna play Jones every snap. 196 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean just just curious about that 197 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: because there's obviously trends in free agency, and one of them, 198 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: so far as the older Edge guys, just haven't gotten 199 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: sucked up yet. Yeah, along with many of the cornerbacks. 200 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: So then you know, a couple of top the top 201 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: name guys, and that's been it. Uh, you know that 202 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: a buyer market for corners. But I just think, you know, 203 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: I think the draft is pretty solid with them. Yeah, 204 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: and and I think maybe some of these guys overpriced 205 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: the market a little bit. And you know, I think 206 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: that's why when again we jumped back to the what 207 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: we talked about in the previous second with with Levi Wallace. Um, 208 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers put that that contract offer out 209 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: there and said, okay, here it is two years, eight 210 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: million dollars. Maybe they offered that same contract to Witherspoon 211 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: and he said that I'm not gonna take it. Well, 212 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: Levi Wallace did, I was thinking that as well. Yeah, 213 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: I think that's a distinct possibility. We've seen them do 214 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: that in the past. Like whoever takes a first grab it, ye, 215 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: doesn't mean the other one's out. But you know, right, 216 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: you're not out of the market. But that guy may 217 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: end up signing because of everything is happening here for 218 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: less than that, it's all said and done. Because the 219 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: money is the money that's being spent, especially by the 220 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. They don't know what they're doing. I saw 221 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: they spent two undred fifty nine million dollars in free 222 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: agency this year. That's more than the salary cap is 223 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I've do they look any better than a 224 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: four or five win team? No, No, not at all. 225 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: Even if you throw in the first round pick, the 226 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: touching sit or Neil or whatever, they're still a handful 227 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: of win team. Yeah, I don't. I just don't get it. 228 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: I mean I just look at that and say, you're 229 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: trying to sell tickets. I think they have problems that 230 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: others don't, of course, and I mean they have they 231 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: have some pirate issues where nobody wants to play for 232 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: them too. Yeah. Man, if we were gonna look at 233 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: who the biggest winners have been in the first few 234 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: days of free agency and who are I think the 235 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars to me, would be the one of the losers. No. 236 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers have done a nice job with 237 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: some of their moves. I think I think the Chargers 238 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: are stacked. Yeah, I think they're all in. And you know, 239 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: they got a rookie quarterback and who's stud that's the 240 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: beauty of that. I think the Bengals have done a 241 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: nice job. They had to fix that offensive line. They've 242 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: done that. They got b J. Hill back, so they've 243 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, they've done what they needed to do. And 244 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are in that conversation especially. I mean, again, 245 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: this is the way you and I Drew up free 246 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: agency for the Steelers, and it kind of went to 247 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: play at a ridiculous hard first to argue hard first, 248 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: to argue with what we argued for, right right, right. 249 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: So I don't think we're the best critics here for that, 250 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: but considering the money they spent and the stability and 251 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: upside they have at all these positions, and I have 252 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: to go back and double check, but they have to 253 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: be one of the youngest teams in the whole league 254 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: right now. I mean they have to be without that. 255 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Cam and Lou Alue are the only older 256 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: guys on the team. Yeah, I think that's not a 257 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: bad spot to be at. I wouldn't mind, you know, 258 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: maybe seeing again, maybe you bring back at Joe Hayden, 259 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: maybe you maybe maybe you had a Bobby Wagner. Yeah, 260 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean I prefer an offensive leader, but offense is 261 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: starting to dry up pretty quick. I mean, do you 262 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: agree that the only thing needed on offensive right now 263 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: is needed is receiver wide receiver And wouldn't mind saying 264 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: again a veteran running back two, you know, kind of 265 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: be the mentor to Naji Harris on that side of 266 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: the football and also provide a little stable you know 267 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: stability there behind him. You know, I think I think 268 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: there's guys available. We haven't seen a lot of the 269 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: running backs signed yet in this offseason. A market for yes, 270 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: So I think I think you can get that guy 271 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: at some point for you know, two and a half 272 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: million dollars. I even have a cheaper option. There's one 273 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: name I like that you could get for nothing, that's 274 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: bounce around the league like crazy, but every time they 275 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: give him the ball he does well. I'd like to 276 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: see Duke Johnson in his backfield. I mean he's a 277 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: veteran minimum guy, but I mean I don't even know 278 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: what kind of leader he is, but just add something 279 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: like that where the one guy I mentioned in my 280 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: free agency article was Carlos Hyde, who was released by 281 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: by the Jaguars last week. And again like a little 282 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: more juice, to be honest with you, but every time 283 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: he stepped into play he's done well. Um, he's right, 284 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: right right. He's a guy that caught the ball better 285 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: I thought last year than anybody thought he could. And 286 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's a guy that a former 287 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: thousand yard back that carries a little bit of weight 288 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: there when he's talking to Nagia. But well, here's what 289 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: I did, or here's how I handle this. This is 290 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: how I pick up this blitz that kind of stuff that. No, 291 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: I think there's value in that for sure. But I 292 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: mean that's down the line in terms see what running 293 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: backs are around in a couple of weeks or whatever. 294 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: But you could do that before training camp for that matter, 295 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: because those guys will still be available. Those guys are 296 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: always available. Even better, who gets cut somebody drafted a 297 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: running back in you know, or you know, and all 298 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden, now they well, we don't need to 299 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: pay this guy, you know, four million dollars this year. 300 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: We can we can move on from him. Yeah. Yeah, 301 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: so that's always a possible bit. Wide receiver to me, 302 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver and safety are the two big big ones 303 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: right now. They do need to safety. I think another 304 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: corners still in order, yeah, and I think receivers in order. Yeah. 305 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: Uh um. So we'll see if that happens here as 306 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: we continue to uh to drive into free agency. As 307 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: we sit here now, spot Track estimating the Steelers are 308 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars under the cap. I don't believe that 309 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: includes though any of the new signings that was gonna ask. 310 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean that that obviously does not include um, Shobert 311 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: or Banner either. Well, that doesn't include they've they've they've 312 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: got James Daniels numbers in there. Um, so they are 313 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: including that one even though it hasn't been signed yet 314 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: because the numbers are out there. I don't believe that 315 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: includes Rabinsky. Let me see here, that does not That 316 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: does not include Rabinski, but Shobert and Banner or Steelers 317 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, yeah, you could easily make more 318 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: in a heartbeat with structure for somebody. Just yeah, just 319 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: a restructure of of you know, cam Heywards contract or 320 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: t J Watt J wats is the big ones they 321 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: could really I think I think they could create like 322 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: I want to say, like and team million dollars in 323 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: cap space just by restructuring TAJ. Obviously you'd be pushing 324 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: money down the road with him and his he's already 325 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: making a big number down the road. But that's one 326 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: that you could certainly do something with. And you could 327 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: still you know, I know a lot of people are 328 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: the Steeler is gonna get make a Fitzpatrick a new contract, folks. 329 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: That's not going to happen until after the draft, make 330 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: a Fitzpatrick is under contract for two season. I think 331 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: there's a I think there's uh some some people out 332 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: there that don't realize. They think that his contract is 333 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: now up and they need to get a new deal 334 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: done with him. He's under contract for next year. No, 335 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: he's the typical You've had ten days of practice and 336 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: everyone's sweaty and starting to not enjoy themselves at St. Vincent, 337 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: So you cheer them up by reward and MAKA one 338 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: day like they have done walked or whoever in the past. 339 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: Same thing with the Aunte Johnson, like, well, they need 340 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: to get the Aunte Johnson and make a Fitzpatrick new contracts. 341 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: Those things will take care of themselves down the road. 342 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: There's no rush. There's no rush that they're they're both 343 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: under contract. You know, you don't you don't have to 344 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: do something right now with those guys. Okay, Yeah, I mean, 345 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: why would you rush it with those guys if you 346 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: don't have to get the time sensitive stuff out of 347 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: the way first. Yeah, I mean, you gotta handle free agency, 348 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: you gotta handle the draft first, and then you can 349 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: take a step take a step back and say, Okay, 350 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: we have this much money available, Uh, you know, signing 351 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: make it make accounts ten point uh ten point six 352 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: million against their salary cap this year. Any new deal 353 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,239 Speaker 1: that they signed him to is probably gonna come in 354 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: a little bit less than that, or maybe slightly more. Uh. 355 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: You know, if you look at wattsteal last year, I 356 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: think I think it saved him like two d thousand 357 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: dollars against the cap last year because the sign they 358 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: may not need it this year. I mean, I'm not 359 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: sure how much more they plan on spending outside the organization, 360 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: especially if Showbird and Banner are let go or you know, 361 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: I think they will be. I mean, you could get 362 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: a Wagner, you could get a Hayden, you can get 363 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, got those guys. But they're not gonna be 364 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: crazy expensive. No, I wouldn't think so. Uh, you know. 365 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: And obviously Deonte Johnson's deal, he's he counts this year 366 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: just over three million dollars against the cap um. You know, 367 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: you're you're gonna do that deal. He's gonna get a rate. 368 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, people saying, well, KNT paid Deonte Johnson fifteen 369 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Folks, have you seen what some 370 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: of these free agent wide receivers are signing for. I know, 371 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to be in that market at all. 372 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean maybe juju if if it's 373 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: similar to last year, but that's about it. Yeah, I 374 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: just can't see, you know. But that's the going rate 375 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: for a star wide receiver. And whether people like it 376 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: or not, Deonte Johnson is a star wide receiver. Yeah, 377 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna be expensive. Expensive, He's gonna be fifty plus 378 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: million real quick. You broke that news on Chandler Jones. 379 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: Well there was another shoe that just dropped after is 380 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: Yawnick and Doc Way got traded to the Colts WO 381 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: including Rocky sin in the that's like that's like eight teams. 382 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, he's just he's with this guy, 383 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, the Ravens, the Vikings. Uh see a bad breath, rash. 384 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: Don't want to be around this guy. I don't get it. 385 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: He sacks quarterbacks everywhere he goes and then they get 386 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: rid of him in like a month. Yeah, I don't 387 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: get it. I don't know, um but certainly but him 388 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: with Quitty Pay I mean and Buckner and that's not 389 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: a bad front. Yeah, they still have a quarterback. But 390 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: you know, no, maybe Baker ends up there, Maybe Baker 391 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: Mayfield ends up there. Maybe it's uh, maybe it's maybe 392 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: they move up and draft Kenny Pickett. I don't know, 393 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: or you know, some one of these guys that um 394 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: also the first round pick. Though. I don't think they 395 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: can rely on the draft at all. I think, Jimmy, 396 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: you're a Baker or maybe a Winston. Yeah, that doesn't 397 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: you know. And if it's Winston, is he going to 398 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: be ready to play at the beginning of the season 399 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: because he's not getting any attention. I think his injury 400 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: might be worse than I had hoped when I was, 401 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, lobbying for It's much Watson. I mentioned earlier 402 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: in the week that you know, if you remember, Bud 403 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: Dupree put out video of him right around this time 404 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: last year, right before, right before the free agency period started, 405 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: of him working out, running on a treadmill, things of 406 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: that nature. Jamis Winston did the same thing while we 407 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: were at the combine, put out a video of him 408 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: running on the on the treadmill. There's a difference between 409 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: running on the treadmill and sacking quarterbacks. Sacking quarterbacks were 410 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: escaping right, escaping guys were trying to stackt the quarterback. 411 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta you gotta be able to pivot 412 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: and move. Um, you know. So yeah, that that kind 413 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: of stuff needs to be resolved. And I'll say it 414 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: again with the Jimmy Garoppolo situation. Stuff to trade for 415 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: when when he when he's when he's not healthy and 416 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: he's not healthy, he's not close to healthy right now. 417 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: So if you're the Colts and that's what you're banking 418 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: on one of those guys, um, you may not have 419 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: your quarterback. He may not take a snap for you 420 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: into a couple of weeks into training camp. I'm not 421 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: suggesting that they trade Roodolph there, but like they would 422 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: kill for even somebody like that, then at least they 423 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: could field, you know, a starter on day one. I mean, 424 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: they don't have that guy at all. And Melager isn't 425 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: that guy, you know, unless they go out and sign 426 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: a Mariotta and then and then maybe move something like that, 427 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: They've got cap space. I don't know what they're sitting 428 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: around waiting for. They got a ton of cap space, 429 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, and they don't apparently aren't in on the 430 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: Watson deal. I don't know. Well, again, they don't. I 431 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: feel like Watson's a huge domino that after that happens, 432 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: we'll kind of have the musical chairs settled. Yeah. I 433 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: think so as well. But we're going to take another break. 434 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lully. You're listening 435 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 436 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: back with more right after this. Life and Adventure and 437 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: it's waiting. Hi. 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