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Speaker 1: All right, hi everybody, and welcome to the Renee Stubbs

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Speaker 1: Tennis Podcast. We have a even better guest today. We

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Speaker 1: told Caitlin you know what, Caitlyn, you went to Italy.

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Speaker 1: You have a day off. Actually the reason she's not

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Speaker 1: here is because she has to get a kid from school.

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Speaker 1: And so we have an even better guest. We have

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Speaker 1: Eliza Westcoat. Am I saying that right? Waistcoat?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I nailed it. Eliza. If anyone out there

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Speaker 1: in the tennis world follows tennis, they know Eliza because

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Speaker 1: she does a great a great I mean your Instagram, feed,

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Speaker 1: your TikTok, feed your also Eliza, I've had you on

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Speaker 1: I had you on my Amazon show last year, and

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Speaker 1: it's great to have you on the pod this week

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Speaker 1: because we've got a lot to talk about. So thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Mate, Oh thanks so much for having me. It's an

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Speaker 2: absolute pleasure.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's get into it because we've got

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Speaker 1: so much to talk about, and you know we can

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Speaker 1: waffle the two of us, so so let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Let's start. I want to start first of all, because

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Speaker 1: we didn't get a chance to talk about the sinner

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Speaker 1: Alcoraz final from not that long ago. You, of course

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Speaker 1: watched it, like all of us did. We were at

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Speaker 1: I think Caitlin and I did the podcast maybe a

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Speaker 1: day or two before the final, and I was so

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Speaker 1: pumped for this final. And what is it about these

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Speaker 1: two that is so bloody great to watch? They're just

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Speaker 1: two great guys. The tennis is unbelievable. What were your

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Speaker 1: thoughts about that final?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sort of reminiscent of those early days when

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Speaker 2: Federer and Nadal Raverry was heating up, and even though

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Speaker 2: there were rivals, their relationship between one another was just

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Speaker 2: so amicable and like relatable in some ways and also

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Speaker 2: unique in sport to see competitive people have a positive

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Speaker 2: relationship with one another. But I think just the level

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Speaker 2: of tennis for tennis fans has just been such a

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Speaker 2: pleasure to watch, and the speed that they can generate

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Speaker 2: up with the alias from the very first point is

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Speaker 2: just it's I'm in awe when I'm watching the two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had that conversation the other day. I was

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Speaker 1: talking to some friends that went to the US Open

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Speaker 1: first for the first time, and they're more involved in basketball,

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Speaker 1: and I said to them, you guys don't understand how

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Speaker 1: good this tennis is. Like for someone like me who's

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Speaker 1: been sitting and watching professional tennis, is someone who played professionally.

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Speaker 1: I watched these players now and I am in absolute

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Speaker 1: or like I'm I do the oh my god, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, oh my god, ah oh watching the match

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Speaker 1: like me, I'm like, I cannot get over how good

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Speaker 1: the tennis is. The surprising thing for me was three

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Speaker 1: love up in the third set tiebreak Sinner and two

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Speaker 1: kind of i'd say, throwing shit against the wall. Al Chirez.

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Speaker 1: He just sort of went for it. He started rushing

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Speaker 1: a little bit lucky on one or two shots, but

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Speaker 1: overall it was surprising when you when when Sinner got

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Speaker 1: up three love in the third set tiebreak, you thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna win another tiebreak. He is eighteen and one

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Speaker 1: in the last nineteen tie breaks. So for him, if

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Speaker 1: you had said to me at three love too mini breaks,

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Speaker 1: he's losing this set, I would be like, no chance.

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Speaker 1: I mean, were you shocked that that ended up happening.

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Speaker 2: I want to say I am, because, as you say,

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Speaker 2: the record is what it is. But then it's it's

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Speaker 2: al Karaz and the magic that he's able to bring.

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Speaker 2: And I think there's two shots where he's kind of

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Speaker 2: to execute that. It's you can't defend against that. There's

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Speaker 2: nothing Sinner can can do. He didn't play a bad

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Speaker 2: Alcaraz and just to see that audacities only, yeah, amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has that amazing touch at the net with

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Speaker 1: fact that Sinner even got them back was pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: I think Sinner would be upset. And it's my rule

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Speaker 1: change that I want to make in tennis of taking

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Speaker 1: away the let cord because at three Love he hit

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Speaker 1: on a serve is a great serve that's called just

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Speaker 1: by the net machine, but overall a great tournament. And

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Speaker 1: wasn't it nice to see them, you know at the

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Speaker 1: nice they are to one another in the respect and

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Speaker 1: we clearly know what's going on again with Sinner. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that? Because Caitlin and I have

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Speaker 1: talked about it a lot. Now Wide is looking at whatever,

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on it overall?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, at this point it feels like a

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Speaker 2: to be kind of like a due diligence process where

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Speaker 2: WADA doesn't you know, want to be seen as an

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Speaker 2: by a governing body that's quote unquote underneath them. So

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Speaker 2: to me, it seems like it's all just kind of

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Speaker 2: part of the process, and I hope that it's resolved quickly.

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Speaker 2: I don't wish for a long and drawn out process here,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully some kind of transparency in more conversations around

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Speaker 2: how these processes can be more fair for everybody in

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Speaker 2: the future and kind of you know, I hope everybody

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Speaker 3: What Sinner experience.

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Speaker 2: That seemed like it went the right way, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and as we talked about last week, Caitlin and I,

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Speaker 1: a show. And good for Coco Gough. What an effort

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Speaker 1: and I just feel like Bedoza, I don't know about you,

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Speaker 1: And look, she's won some great matches. I don't want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, perhaps it is kind of that last like one

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Speaker 3: I mean, I remember watching the match she played against.

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Speaker 1: But do you think do you think that's do you

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Speaker 1: just that's what I mean. I just want to see

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Speaker 1: don't know. And Coco always looks the same. And I

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Speaker 1: loved when Coco won, kept winning the game to stay

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Speaker 1: I was like, Yeah, that's the difference. She's letting you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's ready to fight and she's gonna you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that's something that's unique about Coco, that's special

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Speaker 2: Slam winner versus somebody who's who's not been there in

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Speaker 2: And it felt like Badusa was like there was too

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Speaker 3: Her in the end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Someone who didn't get overwhelmed certainly through the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny how I think that Muhova loves the

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Speaker 2: I think she didn't, yeah, necessarily execute on her best

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just think, you know, you just talked

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Now we're going to get to the eagers

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about Eager then, but before

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Speaker 3: And I just sort of thought.

433
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,800
Speaker 1: No, dude, you're making like twenty million dollars a year.

434
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 1: Fuck off. I would say that if I was the umpire.

435
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think you're fine, Like, yeah, it's just

436
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,640
Speaker 2: the winging and the moaning from him.

437
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,719
Speaker 3: It's it's so consistent throughout his career. It's it's funny

438
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,120
Speaker 3: at this point and to sit.

439
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 2: There and say, you know, you're the reason why I've

440
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 2: lost Grand Slam finals.

441
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 3: I think it's such a nugget into.

442
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,239
Speaker 1: What a great point, Yeah, what a great point. If

443
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 1: I'd walk on the court with him in a Grand

444
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 1: Slam final, I'll be like, hey, don't forget those umpires.

445
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,479
Speaker 1: You know, are they going to screw you?

446
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 3: They'll get you. I mean, it's such victim mentality.

447
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 2: It reminds me of that episode in Breakpoint where he

448
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,399
Speaker 2: talked about you know Medvedev and I'll come, it's going

449
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 2: to get him, and you know that Medvedev was the

450
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 2: one who had all the problems.

451
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 3: And you just sort of.

452
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: Continue to have these seeds throughout Zareeb's career where you

453
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,119
Speaker 2: sort of think, take the responsibility on yourself, like you

454
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 2: are responsible for these losses, these matches that haven't gone

455
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: your way. You had opportunities, certainly this year at the

456
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 2: French Open, and you can't tell me that the umpire,

457
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 2: you know, robbed you so badly that you lost the

458
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: slam final. And I think it's it's why he probably

459
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: will never they're not winning one.

460
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: You're making a good point then, I mean, and if

461
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: he doesn't, will we be upset? I don't think so. Okay,

462
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: So speaking of someone who doesn't usually lose his mind

463
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: with the umpires, is usually pretty nice guy on the court,

464
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: sometimes gets a little bit heated, but not his Francis Tiafo.

465
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: Now yeah, okay, So I have two thoughts on this.

466
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: And you know that I'm usually an umpire basher because

467
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: just that's how I was as a player as well.

468
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: So I'm not usually on the side of the umpires

469
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 1: on this one. I'm gonna go a bit fifty to fifty.

470
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: First of all, Francis was wrong. Okay, we all know

471
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: he wasn't throwing the ball toss up to you to serve.

472
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: He was never in intention to throw the ball toss up.

473
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: But give me a fucking break, umpire. It is five

474
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 1: all in the third set tie break, and the guy

475
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: is clearly at the line about to serve maybe with

476
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: the second over. Okay, I know everyone's gonna be like,

477
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 1: no rules are rules? Are they? Because let me tell

478
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: you why a rule is not a rule before I

479
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: let Eliza take over here. You, as an umpire, get

480
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: to decide when you push the button, okay, to start

481
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: the clock. I see it all the time at the

482
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: US Open. Don't even start the clock until the players

483
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 1: at the towel. Okay, So don't tell me there's a

484
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: blanket statement of twenty five seconds or twenty seconds in

485
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: between points, because that is horseshit. Okay, it is when

486
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: the umpire chooses to push the button. So you cannot

487
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: tell me that. You also don't have the discretion to

488
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: be like, you know what, I'm going to start this

489
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: one a little bit later. Eh, he's at the line,

490
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: he's clearly about to serve. It's one second. Is it

491
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: really gonna matter? It's five all in the third set tiebreak,

492
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: A first serve is unbelievably important at that point, and

493
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: you took that away from him. So let me tell

494
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: you something. If I'm Francis, I'm also really fucking angry. Okay,

495
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: Now what he did after the match by saying, you're

496
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: by swearing at the umpire the way he did and

497
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: going after him not appropriate. He he apologized, He wrote

498
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 1: a really sincere and I know Francis very well well

499
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: he would have meant that because he would have felt

500
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: really badly because, let me tell you something, his mum

501
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: would have been the first one to say, Francis, that

502
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: was not a good thing. But I can understand why

503
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: he was angry and that could have cost him the

504
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: match because if he hits a first serve and wins

505
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: the point, he has match point. Instead he has to

506
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: second serve. It was an incredible point and he lost it.

507
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: So I would have been I would have been ropeable

508
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: as well. But the so what he'd said was wrong,

509
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: But how the umpire handled that, I don't give a shit.

510
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: You can tweet at me all you want and tell

511
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: me that Renee rules are rules, but you have the

512
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: discretion there as an umpire to not be a complete

513
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: I didn't even want to say the word, but you

514
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: had the discretion there to not open your mouth and

515
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: let that match go on. And his opponent would not

516
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: have said a word, trust me, at that moment. All right,

517
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: your turn, because you're English and you're going to be

518
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: nicer than me, but I am not happy about it.

519
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 3: Well, it's so challenging because it is subjective.

520
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: You know, we saw Carlos Alkaaz complaining about same thing,

521
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: that automatic and how he basically had no time to

522
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: go through his routine. Now, I do think so France

523
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: has got the warning earlier in the match as well

524
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: and lost his first serve because he said he was coughing,

525
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 2: and I think as unfair. Like I agree with you,

526
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: it's like there's discretion is all of these things. But

527
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: I think Frances probably could have recognized like this umpire

528
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: is like there's no leniency here right, like it already

529
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: happened to me once I've already got the time violation,

530
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: once I've already lost the first serve once, like, let's

531
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: not push it, especially at five ball in the tiebreak,

532
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: to like leave the possibility of that type of distraction

533
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 2: or that type of call coming in. I think it's

534
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 2: maybe just like a mental lapse from Tierfa or sort

535
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: of not recognizing that hey if he if he didn't

536
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: give you the extra time because you coughed the first

537
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: time around, and now you you know, blatantly throw the

538
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: toss up, which is not a task.

539
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 3: It was kind of clear where the umpire was going

540
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: and like what.

541
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: His mood was was gonna be there, So I think

542
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: he had an opportunity to recognize it a little bit

543
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: ahead of time and sort of make better decisions. But

544
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: having said that, you know, it's a grueling.

545
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: Stage of the match. They're playing at night, it's.

546
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: It's five people there, there's literally twenty five people there.

547
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no reason to call it that tight.

548
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: I also, I also don't get the impression that the

549
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: players themselves, unless it's egregious like that person's taking ten

550
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 2: twenty more seconds than they need. I don't think players

551
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: are feeling upset by like, okay's an extra couple seconds here.

552
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: They just want to play good tennis or you know,

553
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: play and execute at five all on the tiebreak. So

554
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: it just seemed like an unnecessary involvement from the umpire.

555
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: And there's been instances like that peppered throughout the whole season.

556
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: So yeah, the lack of consistency amongst the tournaments and

557
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: when the shot clock is started or not, I think

558
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: is what makes this issue contentious. But agreed, Francis will

559
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: probably see all the posts on social media and be

560
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: pretty embarrassed by the outbursts, but we all know, you know,

561
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: you snap sometimes it's sport like these things happen, and

562
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll see his apologies and move on from it.

563
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I read his apology. It sounded very sincere.

564
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, you're out there almost three hours,

565
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: it's hot, it's five people watching, you know, you just

566
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: if five or you understand you're getting to line. He

567
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: obviously knew because that's way through the ball in there,

568
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: But come, like, just have just a little bit of

569
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: an idea what it's like to be out there as

570
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: a player. And yeahs, does Francis take a long time

571
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: between points? No? Not usually, same as al Crez. I

572
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: mean that one that was given to Alcrez was absolutely

573
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: ridiculous as well, Like give me a break. So you know,

574
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: just as a former player, I know what it's like

575
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: and sometimes you just want to just climb up the

576
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: umpire chair and just do a Zverev on them.

577
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: You know, the rules are just yeah, as you say,

578
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: it feels like the umpire doesn't understand what it's like

579
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: to be there to get but.

580
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: It also I'm not kidding you, I really watched doing

581
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: the US Open when they would start the timer. So

582
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's it's up to you anyway when you

583
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: start the timer, have a little bit of an idea

584
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: of discretion at five all and the third set time break,

585
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: maybe give the guy curdistic.

586
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: That's all that umpire. You know, he was having fun

587
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: implementing the rules. Renee some some some of them are

588
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: like that, And yeah, it's I don't think it adds

589
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: to the to the value of the game at all.

590
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: That's the That's exactly right. That's the best line that

591
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: we could say. That does not add to the to

592
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: the greatness of this game. That subtracts from it. And

593
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: you took away an opportunity there for whoever it was.

594
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: I think not Francis because I'm friends with him, not

595
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: not Alcarez because I love him, or the That's just dumb.

596
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: That's just a dumb decision. All right, Well we'll get

597
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: off of that one. Speaking of people that have kind

598
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: of made some dumb mistakes, let's let's not take away

599
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: from the fact that the men aren't the only one.

600
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: Magdalinette saying what she said being in Wuhan, Listen, what

601
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: are you doing you know, and then she you know,

602
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: tried to apologize just don't do it in the first place,

603
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: But DOZ are the coach putting the photo up? What

604
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: are you guys doing? Like, come, You've got to have

605
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: better sense than this to go into a country and

606
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: to essentially, you know, make fun of the country you're in,

607
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: the people that you know. It's bad enough you're doing

608
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: it in public, but to put it out on a

609
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: social media what are you doing?

610
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really ignorant and sort of like raises this

611
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: question of like does the WT like have to educate

612
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: you before you come out to these countries and you know,

613
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: represent women's tennis as a larger, you know game, it's

614
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: not just yourself as an individual. And I think it's

615
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: it's really poor. I think the apologies were like, oh,

616
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: I didn't know, I didn't know.

617
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was offending somebody.

618
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: What are you kidding by that?

619
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: It's like, it's it's pretty clear. You know, we're all

620
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: on the internet, we know these things. And it felt

621
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: like like childish, you know, high school kind of behavior.

622
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: And yeah, I.

623
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Really expect better from the both of them, but you know,

624
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what their culture is or kind of

625
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: how they grew up and saw Asia or China and

626
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: what their experiences are like.

627
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: But to me, and you know, growing up in the

628
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: UK and the US, I feel like.

629
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: This is such basic knowledge and as you say, just

630
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: to put it out on the internet shamelessly and then

631
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: try to like backtrack, you sort of think, yeah, I

632
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: hope they learn a lesson in terms of what their

633
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: filter is for stuff getting posted online.

634
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: In the future, girls would be more like Cocoa Gov. Okay,

635
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean this twenty year old was she twenty one yet?

636
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: It's just you know, the ultimate in class. The way

637
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: she spoke about Muhova in the final about how you

638
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: know it's great to have a there, just Coco Gov

639
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: is just the epitome of just knowing how to do

640
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: things right at such a young age. She is just

641
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: a credit to sport. And you know, I don't think

642
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if I said it enough, but what

643
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: she did and winning that tournament with you know, the

644
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: breakup with coach Gilbert and then hiring a new person

645
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: who seems very quiet and down to earth, I think

646
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: is probably more her, more her vibe. I don't know,

647
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: because she's pretty you know, She's a really kind of

648
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: just good kid, and I think she takes everything really

649
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: to heart. And look, she even says stuff even after

650
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: when she wins finals. Listen, I read what you say

651
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: about me, and it's just all receipts. So anyway, all right,

652
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: let's let's also a little shout out to my buddy

653
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: who lost today. But Isla tom Lanovitch winning a tournament

654
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: after what she's gone through with her own injuries with

655
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: her knee. Spoke to her at the US Open, and

656
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, she's still like a little bit doubtful about

657
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: her movement and stuff. But that way to go Eiler.

658
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Hong Kong one twenty five.

659
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, you know, another kind of one

660
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: twenty five tasle under her belt. I think it's really

661
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: awesome to see her kind of continue to fight, keep competing.

662
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: And that was a tough draw.

663
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: You know, there were good players in the mix there

664
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: and I don't think I would have picked her to

665
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 2: win this week, So it was great to kind of

666
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: to see her story and her continue to keep fighting

667
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: at a good level.

668
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, we just we love, we love Eiler,

669
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: and you know, she's gone through a lot of injuries

670
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: and her doubting. Doubting herself was something that was really

671
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: tough for her, So it was just nice to see

672
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: her sort of come through and winning that tournament. So

673
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: I was really really pleased to see Ila win that one.

674
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: But listen, let's get to some questions, because you can

675
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: help me answer some of these. But I put it

676
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: out a couple of days ago, so we've got we've

677
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: got a bunch one. Karen Gainey was very upset because

678
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: she thought she'd missed the pod by getting me this question.

679
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: So she would like to know the difference between fast

680
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: versus slow hard courts isn't concrete question mark. I would

681
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: think whether plays a factor as well. How's the back?

682
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, Eliza, if you heard, but I fell

683
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: down my stairs quite significantly, and Karen, thanks for asking.

684
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: Back's doing much better, Okay. So the difference between fast

685
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: and slow hard courts, it's essentially just the mixture that's

686
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: put into the into the hard court. You know, whether

687
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: how much they put sand, how much sand do they

688
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: put in it? So you'll hear a player say, oh,

689
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: that's for example, Cincinnati was like an ice drink, and

690
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: if you looked at it, it looks shiny, and when

691
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: it's shiny, as a player, you go holy shit. Like

692
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: when I saw shine, I was licking my lips. I

693
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: was so happy. Because it's the faster the court is,

694
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: the shiner it gets, and the more grit more sand

695
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: in it makes it slower Indian Wells, for example, because

696
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: of the desert. It doesn't help either, because I'm sure

697
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: when they're laying that court there's so much shit gone

698
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: in the air the sand ends up in the mixture.

699
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 1: So that's the difference between fast and hard court. All right,

700
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess perhaps the answer that one, Eliza,

701
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: here's another one from tomorrow. Do you know or think

702
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: wit Korowski will be right back to coaching someone or

703
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: will he take a break? I'll give that one to you, Eliza.

704
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: Wit Keowski.

705
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Thomas, I didn't know he went by wit.

706
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: I think.

707
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a little bit

708
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: of a break. I mean, the coaching mary.

709
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: Around is so we call it the carousel.

710
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: The carousel, especially on the WT tour, it never fails

711
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: to surprise me. The kind of coach stealing that goes on.

712
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a little bit

713
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: of a break. I mean, it seems like they had

714
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: such a unique relationship, and in terms of like how

715
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: that team functioned and the seriousness of Eager Treonte's camp

716
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: and kind of how they conduct each other, I don't

717
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: get the impression that there's many girls on the tour

718
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 2: who are like that and want that type of environment,

719
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: which is why I also think it's interesting to talk

720
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: about who will be Eager's coach because it's such an

721
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: intense atmosphere that they seem to create.

722
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: So I wonder if.

723
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: He, you know, will kind of be on the lookout

724
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: for a similar type of player who's looking for that

725
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: level of intensity, or whether he would switch things up.

726
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't be surprised if he sits on the

727
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: sidelines for a little bit.

728
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, we'll see. You know, we've

729
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: spoken about it coaching carousel. If you're a man, you'll

730
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: get a job in a week. If you're a woman,

731
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: start begging, Okay, So I don't know, we'll see. Would

732
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: you can well, as somebody who's asked me in these questions,

733
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: if I'm going to coach Eager and I am not

734
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: going to coach Eager. If she called me to coach her,

735
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: I would be very happy to do it, But I

736
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: do think that she needs someone as a little bit

737
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more fun, to be honest, a little

738
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: bit more relaxing. People probably think I'm a very intense coach.

739
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm not. I think the most important thing for a

740
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: coach is actually to understand your player is to actually

741
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: understand their personality. If they are a person that likes

742
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: to be quiet and not be told too much, then

743
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: you have to adhere to that. If you want if

744
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: you feel like they need to get up a little

745
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: bit more, you've got to get them up. You've got

746
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: to know what their optimum is. And so a great

747
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: coach is understanding that and not just going in with

748
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: your ideas. That's what's key. All right, all right? Pole asked,

749
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: would you consider to coach a promising young player not

750
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: exactly a contemporary superstar of top ten, like living the

751
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: process with growing from nothing or is it too much

752
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: work time, not financially viable for both parties? Well, pol Yeah,

753
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: of course I would consider working with somebody not a

754
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: superstar or not in the top ten, top hundred. But yes,

755
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: it I cost money, So that's how much money are

756
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: you going to give me? And I'm not going to

757
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: do it for peanuts. I have rent to pay in

758
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: New York, So you know, those are certainly conditions that

759
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: we have. All right, let's get to Willie G. This one's

760
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: for you, allis. I'll lask you this one. Are there

761
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: any science writers of voice as you recommend, who have

762
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: experience covering Italy eagle doping in sports? I feel like

763
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: every time a new athlete is implicated, there are so

764
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: many varying opinions it's hard to know which voice to trust.

765
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: Great question, Willie G. All Right, Eliza, what do you

766
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: think of that one?

767
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: That's a tough question.

768
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: And I usually refer to the athletic and Matthew Futtterman

769
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: for the.

770
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: Men, Matt Fotamon.

771
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that type of coverage that is a little bit

772
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: more kind of impartial and just like dissects what the

773
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: hearing like outcome or the key's outcome.

774
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: Has actually been.

775
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: So for me, I guess I don't know, like a

776
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: scientific writer, like someone who kind of gets that, but

777
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: I think also that knowledge would probably go over my

778
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: head anyway.

779
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: I looked for someone who can kind of help me digest.

780
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: That's why we rely on Caitlin, because you know, she's

781
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: bringing back steroids from Italy and we're I'm going to

782
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: put them on my shoulder. I'm gonna put them on

783
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: my body, and I'm gonna make a comeback at fifty

784
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: four at least drain open. I'm just kidding all the difference, Yeah, exactly,

785
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: All right. Stephen Kennedy asks, do you think that too

786
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: many of their WTA players spend too much time on groundstrokes,

787
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: returns and non half time in the serve. Can only

788
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: think of Bakina Plishkova, Samsonova, Mukhova with nice serves. Now

789
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: that Barty and Serena are gone, all right, Stephen, First

790
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: of all, I agree with you. I think that not

791
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: enough players on tour or juniors, and I think it

792
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 1: starts with juniors. So all the coaches out there, make

793
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: sure your player at thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, the really developing years,

794
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: make sure that they have a good service motion. Now

795
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: break it down now. For example, Coco Goff's service motion

796
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: and her forehand should have been broken down more as

797
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: a kid, Now, how bloody good is she considering her

798
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: technical flaws? On her serve, this motion and her grip

799
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: and her forehand. How good is she? So if you

800
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: have to take a year off at fourteen to break

801
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: that down, do it. Do it, absolutely do it, And

802
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't I don't care how small you are. People like, well,

803
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: she's short as Mampaulini short. She has a beautiful service motion.

804
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: My old doubles partner Lisa Raymond had a was five

805
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: to five beautiful service motion and she could pop it

806
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: in at about one twelve, you know, and Ash Barty's

807
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: a perfect example. Ash was maybe five seven maybe beautiful

808
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: service motion. So don't allow your kid, no matter who

809
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: you're working with, to have bad technique as a as

810
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: a young junior, because it's only going to get more

811
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: it's only going to get worse as you get older,

812
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: and it's only going to get more picked on. So

813
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: I think they've spend too much time on groundstrokes. You

814
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: can spend tons of time on ground strokes. Just make

815
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: sure you're doing the same amount on your volleys and

816
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: you serve, because that's when you're going to be a

817
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: great player, when you get all of that really good.

818
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: Because guess what, bad technique breaks down under pressure and

819
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: we see it all the time. All right, I answered

820
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: that one. All right, Jay Rube who always writes to

821
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: us before indoor season starts, what are differences from outdoor

822
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: hard court to indoors to consider? Thanks? What do you

823
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: think on that one?

824
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: Whether you claim it?

825
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, what are the differences from outdoor hard court

826
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: to indoors to consider? It's usually speed? Yeah, Usually the

827
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: speed of the court indoors tends to be a bit quicker,

828
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: although you can slow it down to depends on how

829
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: you lay the court down. All right, Stephen Kennedy ass again.

830
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: I also was wondering does TA make a huge profit

831
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: like Wimbledon and the money goes straight to funding a

832
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: lot of Australian players seems to be a lot of

833
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: Aussies around at the moment. Do you generally receive a

834
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: lot of funding? Do you know anything on that?

835
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's not my special all right.

836
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: Well then I guess I got to answer this one

837
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah. Basically, the reason why the Brits and

838
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: the Aussies and you know, the Americans get a lot

839
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: of funding is because they make a lot of money

840
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: at their Grand Slams. And so now why are they're

841
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: more Aussies doing better are there? Because I don't think

842
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: they are, but but yeah, they get to, you know,

843
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: be able to fund their players a lot better than

844
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: some player from to Jikistan or something like that because

845
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: they have the money. So there you go. All right,

846
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: do you think Steven you're getting I'm going to have

847
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: to skip over you, Stephen, because you've asked a lot

848
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: of questions. Christine Christian Monteney Munteney. I'm sorry, I just

849
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: really fucked that up. What do you think about Samona

850
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: Hallup's matches from the WTA one twenty five Hong Kong?

851
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: Thank you? Now, I'm sure you watched some of them,

852
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: so what are your thoughts?

853
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's she she came back

854
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: a little earlier than she had expected to with the

855
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: knee injury. I think she originally was only going to

856
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: play the two fifty. Then she came back a bit

857
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: earlier for one twenty five. So I'm not sure where

858
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: she was with her like fitness journey, but great to

859
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 2: see her battle in one match, come you know, play

860
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 2: three tough sets, and we saw glimpses of og Hallap

861
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: in that in that match in terms of how she's

862
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: able to execute and play her tennis, But to me,

863
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: it would always be a doubt against you know, Blenkov's

864
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: who's been on tour all season and has had some

865
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: good wins. To string two matches back to back when

866
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: you when you've not played and he done us really

867
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: for a long time, I think that was always going

868
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: to be a tough ask. And yeah, I know people

869
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 2: are split on you know, on her and her story,

870
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: but for me, I think she was a player that

871
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: I watched a lot growing up and enjoyed her game

872
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: and kind of what she brought to the table.

873
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 3: So I'm hopeful that she's.

874
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: Able to string a couple of matches together and have

875
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: a good season in twenty twenty five, But it also

876
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if she sort of has a goodbye

877
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: season and it doesn't have a lot left in her legs.

878
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: I reckon this amount of time off must be really

879
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: hard to navigate a comeback from yep, But just ultimately

880
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: happy for her that she's getting a chance to play.

881
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, We'll see. I guess we'll see what

882
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: happens next year, all right, Vamos Rougher asked Rebackina what's

883
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: going on with her? Will she come back? She's such

884
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: a great player and so young, surely she won't be

885
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: a one slam wonder too. Why is no one cringing

886
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: about playing in China? Again? Well, I certain players like

887
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: one net they are, especially women. Will Saudi Arabia be

888
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: the end to ethical pro tennis? I'm going to give

889
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: that to you wise Saudi question. Well, let's talk Rebekna first,

890
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: and what do you think was going on there? And

891
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: just the cringiness of playing in China, I guess, and

892
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: then Saudi Arabia.

893
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Rebeccna question is really troublesome. I'm worried

894
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: for her. I think not just from like the string

895
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: of injuries and illnesses that we've seen all year, but

896
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: this sort of quiet letting go of Vukov and perhaps

897
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: being removed from the WT coaching list and why that

898
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: might have happened, and some stories kind of coming out

899
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: from native journalists about him, you know, being quite an

900
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: aggressive presence and that kind of sucking the love out

901
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: of tennis for Rebeccna.

902
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: I see that she seems to be spending some time

903
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: with family and friends.

904
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: And kind of taking a bit of a break, and

905
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: I heard today that maybe she's looking for a temporary

906
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: solution until the end of the year, just to kind

907
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: of finish things out.

908
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: But it's hard to get a sense of, like, you know,

909
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: how much of this is the.

910
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: Physical aspect and everything she's got going on with injuries

911
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: and illness, and how much is like kind of behind

912
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: the scenes more of a potentially sad personal story that's

913
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 2: that's going on. So I think it's a fan concerned

914
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: and just really hope that she's able to make a

915
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 2: return this year and play some good tennis and enjoy herself.

916
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: Well, just to let you know I'm available, Yeah, because

917
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: I would. She's a great player and a really great girl,

918
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: and I just everybody knows how I felt about her

919
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: previous coach. I don't need to even need to go

920
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: into it. If you listen to my pod, you know, okay,

921
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: monkey Bread, who's the best? All around?

922
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: Adela didn't answer. We didn't ask oh.

923
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, what do you think about going to Saudi?

924
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: Seeh I know, sorry, so many questions in one Well, there.

925
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: Was a question on Cringe about playing in China, and

926
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: I do think the question of whereas PUNKSHUEI is still

927
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: relevant and they think we can still beat that drum

928
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 2: in terms of you know, could she present a trophy,

929
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: could she be present, could she just like be around?

930
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: Could we know that she's okay. I think that whole

931
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: situation is just feels like a nounanswered question. And we made,

932
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: you know, big statements and big gestures and that financially

933
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: impacted the WTA, and now it feels like now we're

934
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: not talking about it at all. So I think it

935
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: could be cringe from that perspective. And then, as you

936
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: alluded to, it's like Wuhan and everything in the news

937
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: about the potential lab leak.

938
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: And is that where coronavirus came from? So I mean

939
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: there's so many like.

940
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: Topics here that need to be sensitively handled, and it

941
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: feels like we're just not talking about them at all.

942
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's crazy, Yeah, Saudi. I mean, people

943
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: know how I feel about that. So there you go.

944
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's look at this jpeg. Hits flat

945
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: who always writes to us, looks like a lot of

946
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: WTA play stat the same hotel in Beijing. Is accommodation

947
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: usually discounted for players? How does paying for accommodation usually

948
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: work for players and teams. Also saw your courtside on

949
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: TV at the Liberty Aces game. But go links. Okay, well, firstly,

950
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: go Liberty. Second of all, yes, So what happens is

951
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: players enter the tournament. If they're in the main draw

952
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: or qualifying, they get free accommodation for a certain amount

953
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: of days. If they stay in the tournament, they get

954
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: that hotel paid for throughout the whole time. If they lose,

955
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: they get a day or two paid for as well,

956
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: because you can't just kick them out. But yes, the tournament.

957
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: While you're in the tournament, you do get accommodation paid for.

958
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: You have to pay for your coach though. There are

959
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: some tournaments that pay for both player and coach, but

960
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: that is rare. It is usually only the player that

961
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: gets the tournament to pay for their accommodation. In that

962
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: singles and double So there you go. Okay, here we go,

963
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: ray Pod. What's with all the coach swaps? Would female

964
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: coaches be better? What do you think, Eliza?

965
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: As someone who's played sports, I always had female coaches

966
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: growing up and I appreciate having that, and even now

967
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 2: as someone who trains, I look for a female trainer.

968
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: I just think there's an understanding and a connection between

969
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: women and our bodies and how we function and kind

970
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: of what's going on in our cycles and everything else,

971
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: and it's something that men can try to understand but

972
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 2: inherently don't. And I just would love to see more

973
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: opportunities for women at the top level of the game

974
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 2: when it comes to coaching, and it's why I always

975
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 2: root for the players who.

976
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: Have female coaches as well.

977
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: Had a great win today, so I always, you know,

978
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: trying to trying to cheer them on and show that

979
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: women are capable of coaching at a high level. And

980
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: I think probably that the hardest barriers across will be

981
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: getting a man to have a female coach. Obviously we

982
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: had Andy Murray with Maresmo, but that seems to be

983
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: an even harder hurdle to cross. But I think first

984
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: and foremost just looking at you know, the WTA toor

985
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: doing more to help women get into the coaching game.

986
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: I agree, Yes, no comment from me, because I've made enough. Okay,

987
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: here's a great question from Lauren S. What do you

988
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: think we're both going to answer this one? What do

989
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: you think about singles players in doubles after Bodoz and

990
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: Mahova Withdrew Krummacheva said singles players don't care about doubles,

991
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: but several analysts have noticed singles players bring more attention

992
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 1: to doubles. Should there be rules for these types of withdrawals? Okay,

993
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: first of all, Lauren, I think I may have answered

994
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: this question when it was put out on Twitter, and

995
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: my reaction was just beat them. Yeah, if you're going

996
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: to play doubles, Okay. So I'm going to get a

997
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: little bit of a rant going here, because everybody knows. Listen,

998
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: I played singles up until I was thirty years of age,

999
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: and then I concentrated only on doubles because I was

1000
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: getting a lot of injuries and it was hurting my

1001
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: doubles actually, because then I was getting wasn't able to

1002
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: actually play doubles. So I was in sammi's and finals

1003
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: of doubles tournaments and I couldn't make the qualifying of

1004
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: the next tournament because I had to make money. So

1005
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: for me, I had to win doubles tournaments to make

1006
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: money to keep going, right, you have to. You don't

1007
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: just travel and play on the tennis tour, you know,

1008
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: on the goodness of people paying for your shit. You

1009
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: gotta win money, right, Yes, they pay for your hotels.

1010
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: If you're in the main draw. You've got to be

1011
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: in the main drawer. And then you've got to get there.

1012
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: They're not paying for you to get there. You gotta

1013
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: pay for the coach. Yeah, and your coach and your

1014
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: trainer and blah blah blah. So you know these doubles

1015
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: players that say, well, you know these singles players they

1016
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: beat me and then they pulled out, Well, then win

1017
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: beat them. The only thing I can say, you guys

1018
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: are lucky playing these days. And I'm gonna get some

1019
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: players that are gonna give you so much shit about this.

1020
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: But you're playing doubles only, and you can't beat these

1021
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: singles players. You shouldn't be playing. And if you lose

1022
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: to them, it's because you're not as good as them. Okay,

1023
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: when I was playing, I'm having to play Bloody Venus

1024
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: and Serena Amalie Moresmo. Uh, you know, Kim Kleisters, Lindsay Davenport,

1025
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: my Tina Navradlov. I mean we were playing the best

1026
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: singles players in the world. If you look at my

1027
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: Grand Slam doubles finals, I mean everyone I played was

1028
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: probably top ten and singles I Stuga Yama, Kim kleisters

1029
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: by Tina Hingis, Mary Pierce, Torzia Kim Po. These are

1030
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: all other than Kim Poe. I believe everyone I played

1031
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: against was a top ten, if not a top one,

1032
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: in the world singles player. So you guys should appreciate

1033
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: the fact that you don't have to play against the

1034
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: great singles players these days because they make so much

1035
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: money in singles, they're not even playing doubles, and when

1036
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: they do, they usually win the fucking Grand Slams, like

1037
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: Saba Lenka and these players. So as far as I'm concerned,

1038
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: if you cannot beat them, then don't play. If they

1039
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: pull out in the next draw, in the next round,

1040
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: it sucks. Yeah, it's happened to me as well. But

1041
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: guess what, they won the match. They get to choose

1042
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: what they want to do, So if you want to,

1043
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: if you want a bitch about it, then get better

1044
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: your thoughts.

1045
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: I love that they don't make them like you anymore. Rennee,

1046
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: I I think I am ninety nine agreement.

1047
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: I think the only thing I would add is if

1048
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 2: singles players are entering the draw, there should be a

1049
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: level of commitment there to a great tenue play. I

1050
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: think it's a shame both, you know, for the next round,

1051
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 2: for the fans you want to watch, for everybody involved,

1052
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: if you're not seriously entering this tournament to try to

1053
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 2: win it. And I understand that, you know, at Grand

1054
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: Slams and stuff, maybe there's mixed doubles pairings or things

1055
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: that are for a little bit of fun, but I

1056
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: also think it can be disrespectful towards you know, professionals

1057
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: who are doing their best and you're kind of coming

1058
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: in and not taking the opportunity seriously. And I, yeah,

1059
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: the only answer is to beat them, but I would

1060
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: hope you know, I think with Bidosa it was like

1061
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: there's kind of been a consistent thread of her doing

1062
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: this where she enters, plays, wins around, and then with draws,

1063
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: and that I don't like to see.

1064
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that that is I'm in agreement with

1065
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: you on that. The difference in my day is the

1066
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: top players would usually it right to the end unless

1067
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: they truly had a little bit of an injury and

1068
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: they were in singles and doubles. But you know, we

1069
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: had multiple players that were number one and singles and doubles,

1070
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Speaker 1: Lindsay Davenport, Kim Cleisters, Martina Hingis, Martina Navlova, a lot

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00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: of people, and people are like, well, you know, the

1072
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: tennis is more difficult now. Yes, it's more physical in

1073
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. But I do agree if you're

1074
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: going to enter the tournament, then play it out. But again,

1075
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 1: don't winge if you lose to them. If you lose,

1076
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: you're out. You have no rights to tell anyone else

1077
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: what to do. So that's my round on that. And

1078
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: as I said, if you're playing doubles only, then you

1079
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: better figure out a way to beat them because if

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00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: you can't, you're just not as good. So stop whining

1081
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: about it, all right, all right, all right, right? Stalin Lobo, Ken,

1082
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: Paula Bados and alex Verev winn a Grand Slam soon.

1083
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 3: I'm going to say no on both of them.

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00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: Fair Yeah.

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00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: I think for Zverev, I mean don't think he plays

1086
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: the aggressive tennis that you would need to play in

1087
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: order to grab the title with both hands and win it.

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00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 3: I think he's far too passive.

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00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: I think Federer put it well during the Laver Cup

1090
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: in terms of his criticism on rival constructive feedback there

1091
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: and with Badosa, I mean I think, Yeah, it's been

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00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 2: such a long time now since she was world number two,

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00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: the top ten has changed a lot. There's so much

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00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: variety and fire power within the top five even, and

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00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: I'm just not convinced from what I've seen so far

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00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: over the last six months that she has the physical

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00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: stamina to last second matches. Yeah, that little ledge, firepower

1098
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 2: to sorry the yeah, as you say, the hutzpa to

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00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: get it done when the going gets tough.

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00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, she has the game, but I think

1101
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: she needs to get a bit quicker around the court.

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00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: And for me, it's more about that X factor that

1103
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: digging in the Coca Golf has. You know, the Eagish

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00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: Fiantex has, the Sablenca have, the Rabakina has, you know

1105
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: those that you've got to have that little All right,

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00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: We're going to answer a couple more because we got

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00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: so many sent to us and everyone that I didn't

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00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: get to answer your questions. I will answer them back

1109
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: to you on the X Okay, So so don't don't worry,

1110
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: all right, Why this is La Mike? I like this question.

1111
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: Why isn't Martina considered the greatest female tennis player? Her

1112
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: whole body of work is insane. Singles, doubles, mixed slams

1113
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: fifty nine, Serena thirty nine. Okay, well, I don't like

1114
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: to compare Serena and Martina as far as all of

1115
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, because Serena, you know, it's Martina

1116
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: would probably be the first to say that she Serena

1117
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: did have a little bit more competition. It was a

1118
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: bit easier for Martina to get through in those you know,

1119
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: tournaments and win singles. But if you've had listened to me,

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00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: I did say even this year at Wimbledon, when we

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00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: were doing the Jason and I were doing the doubles

1122
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: or mixed doubles final, I said that because we showed

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00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: Martina on the TV. I said, Martina to me is

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00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: the greatest tennis player of all time when it comes

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00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: to her entire body of work. La Mike, So, I

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00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: agree with you, but I hate comparing greatness because they're

1127
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 1: great in their own rights. And when you think about

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00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: the fact that Serena never lost a doubles Grand Slam final,

1129
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: I think it was fourteen to zero. Trust me, I

1130
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: was one of those victims. It's like, it's just phenomenal

1131
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, STEFFI barely played doubles. She played from time

1132
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: to time one of Wembledon doubles title. So I just

1133
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: hate comparing greatness as far as I'm concerned. They're all

1134
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: great in their own rights. But yes, my Tina for

1135
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: me and singles, doubles and mix is probably the greatest

1136
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: of all time. You don't need to answer that question.

1137
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: All right, Let's do one more. Um, let's see. Let's see,

1138
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: let's go to one that was asked of me today,

1139
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: actually because I like this one. It's from Jpeg again

1140
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: because Jpeg asked some fun questions. In your opinion, do

1141
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: you think it's harder to win a Grand Slam or

1142
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: stay in the top ten? Now, it depends on how

1143
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: long you're talking about inside the top ten. What are

1144
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that?

1145
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 3: Oh, such a good question.

1146
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: It is a good question.

1147
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: Maria Sakari immediately comes to mind because she was inside

1148
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: the top ten for many, many years without have ever

1149
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 2: having a good Grand Slam run.

1150
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: Yep, And it just makes you've already answered the question.

1151
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I think it's way harder to

1152
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: win a Grand.

1153
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: Slam, yeah than Yeah, listen, it's very rare. That we

1154
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: have an Emma Ratakanu situation happened that is a lightning

1155
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: and a bottle situation with her and fully deserved a

1156
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: win from her to win ten matches to win a

1157
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: Grand Slam. So if anyone says that the one hit

1158
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: wonder and she's so lucky, there's no such thing as

1159
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: luck in winning a Grand Slam. It is, in my opinion,

1160
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: very difficult to win a Grand Slam. It is also

1161
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: very difficult to stay inside of the top ten for

1162
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: a number of years. So Maria Sakari did a great

1163
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: job in that she came very close and probably should

1164
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: have won the French Open the year that Barbara kujik

1165
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: of A one that was where I think she fucked up.

1166
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: And also against Radakanu when Radakanu won the US Open,

1167
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: that was her semi final victory over her. So anyway,

1168
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to answer all of those other

1169
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: questions either today on the X or maybe in the

1170
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: next pod that I do. But for this one, Eliza,

1171
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: is anything else that you would like people to know

1172
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: about the upcoming tournaments, what you're enjoying. I know that

1173
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: you liked Cocoa Goth's outfits. They're doing great. New Balance

1174
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: is doing really good with her.

1175
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 3: They are doing really good with her.

1176
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: It's awesome to see that she also seems to have

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00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: some involvement with the New Balance brand.

1178
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: I love that it's an American Eagle, like she's yeah.

1179
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 2: She's doing great. She has a signature shoe line. No

1180
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 2: other active female player has a signature shoe line. And

1181
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: I would absolutely love it if Tommy Paul would wear

1182
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:37,959
Speaker 2: the cg ones.

1183
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 3: That would make me so happy.

1184
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: I'd love to see a guy wearing Coco's shoes. I

1185
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 2: think that would be my ultimate triumph for the year.

1186
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: Well, I have to say, and I was watching her

1187
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: in the final the other day. I was like, oh,

1188
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: those those shoes are freeing cool. That whole outfit was cool,

1189
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: and she posted it on her Instagram. I love the

1190
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: little interaction between her and Carlos Alcarez after they did

1191
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: their little thing in Beijing and then they both won

1192
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: the tournament and they said, let's do this again. And

1193
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they're both so great for the game, just

1194
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: amazing competitors, amazingly fun. I think if one thing that

1195
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: Mukhova can learn from is that she's pretty quiet person.

1196
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: Carolina and she's a little bit unsure of her own

1197
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: talents and ability, just because I've had so many conversations

1198
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: with her about it. But I would love to see

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Speaker 1: her get a little bit more sort of like fired

1200
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: up and like, you know, have a bit of fun.

1201
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: I think that she might even be a better Yeah.

1202
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, because I think online she comes

1203
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: across as someone who's like really cool, really at ease

1204
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: with themselves, Like her play looks so effortless. I wouldn't

1205
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: have thought that she would kind of have those doubts

1206
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: about her own ability.

1207
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: So it's always the quiet ones usually are a little bit.

1208
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'd love to see her get a little

1209
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: bit more fired up. But anyway, all right, well, Eliza,

1210
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on the show today. I'm just

1211
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: going to add towards the end here, I am very

1212
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: excited about my New York Liberty. Everyone knows how much

1213
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: I love the WNBA, and I am there on Thursday night.

1214
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: And for people that don't know, my very good friend

1215
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: Sandy Brondelo is the coach of the Liberty. She is

1216
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: the Australian national coach of the basketball team, and we

1217
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: have known each other over thirty years. We went to

1218
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: the austrain Institute of Sport together. She was on a

1219
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: basketball scholarship. I was on a tennis scholarship. So the

1220
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: fact that she lives in New York and coaches this team,

1221
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 1: I am fully. I was on the team charter flight

1222
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: back from Vegas. I am in Thursday night. We don't

1223
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: know who they play because tonight is the playoff game

1224
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: between Game five of Connecticut versus the Minnesota Links. As

1225
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: everyone's already heard from me, I'm barracking for the Liberty,

1226
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: so it's going to be a great It's on ESPN

1227
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. But tonight is also ESPN's Game five.

1228
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: Are you into the WNBA? Are you watching it at all?

1229
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: I'm getting in?

1230
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: Am I getting you into it?

1231
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 2: Your posts are helping me stay informed and knowledgeable about

1232
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: the WNBA.

1233
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: I wish I grew up with basketball.

1234
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: I didn't. You can do it, but.

1235
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: Commonwealth girls, I'm a netball girl to follow my England

1236
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: Vitality roses who did really well over the weekend and

1237
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: they won their little trophy or their cup.

1238
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 3: So I still plugged into the netball game. And of course,

1239
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: growing up in the UK, what was your position? I

1240
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 3: was a golf shoot. I had a good Oh.

1241
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: I was center. See, I was the poast.

1242
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: You like to run.

1243
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: I like to run, and I like to be in

1244
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: control of the ball most of the time. And then

1245
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: I gave it to someone like you to say you

1246
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: better score. Now, I'm just kidding.

1247
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 3: That was great at that job.

1248
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: I would love to find a netball rec league in

1249
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: the US and bring the sport here, because if you

1250
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: guys don't know netball, you should look it up on YouTube.

1251
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 3: There's some It's a great sport and a lot of

1252
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: fun to play.

1253
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: It is a great sport, and you are right, and

1254
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of fun to play. And I loved

1255
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: growing up playing it so and it helped my tennis

1256
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: because it's great footwork and quick, quick reaction, so that

1257
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: helped me at the net But anyway, all right, Eliza,

1258
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: thanks for joining me today. Everyone, thanks for your questions.

1259
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: We just love that you interact with us. As I said,

1260
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: the ones that I didn't get to answer, I will

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00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: answer on in on the on the Ald Socials until

1262
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: next week. Thanks for joining me and Eliza today and

1263
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: catch her because trust me when I tell you, spell

1264
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: spell your name so everyone can find you.

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01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: On the internet, the may handle is It's Eliza as well.

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01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: There you go, it's Eliza's weld. Follow her and she's

1267
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to follow and she really does

1268
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: critique all the shitty outfits on the tennis tour. So

1269
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: for now, thanks for joining us today everyone. We'll see

1270
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:25,959
Speaker 1: you next week. Baye