WEBVTT - Dope Floats: The Uncrashable Gary Betzner

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Dunton Zaren Brunette. I got a question for you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what is ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>I do know what is ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>Lay it on me.

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<v Speaker 3>Lick what lick what? Lick?

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<v Speaker 2>Stop saying that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember when I was Remember when I was

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<v Speaker 3>telling you about people getting the Hines fifty seven tattoos.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and it was oddly in Brazil. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 3>they've taken their craziness Hines over to another continent.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't be stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they cannot. So Hines has partnered with a company

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<v Speaker 3>called Lick.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay go on, and it's so sure this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a ton of these. This is forwarded to

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<v Speaker 3>us by a ton of people.

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<v Speaker 2>The Elizabeth Army was marching, Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We rise up. Lick Paint. It's a paint company and

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<v Speaker 3>so they have a matte.

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<v Speaker 2>Paint I know, Blick Art supply the Yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 3>Dropped the bee because they're not their crips and so

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<v Speaker 3>they they it's Lick and they're out of the UK.

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<v Speaker 3>So they spelled color COO l O U R.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, they have this matte paint red HTK fifty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the Hinds Tomato ketchup color and so you can

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<v Speaker 3>paint your walls like that and that's that's ridiculous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you know, ridiculous, gross, what have you? But

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<v Speaker 3>I have another I knew there was more non mashup.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this a really good message that we got on

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram that was forwarded over to me from Helen w.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, you know, in a past episode, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was when we were talking about that male heights

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<v Speaker 3>to the planmeth mail highs crime Watch the show in

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<v Speaker 3>the UK. She said, I know someone will have said,

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<v Speaker 3>but sorry, Elizabeth. Crime Watch was canceled by the BBC

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<v Speaker 3>and half of the UK true crime podcasters are still

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<v Speaker 3>not over it. It is sad I loved a good

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<v Speaker 3>crime watch. Sadly it isn't murder free, but it is

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<v Speaker 3>ridiculous that one of the presenters of crime Watch, Jill Dando,

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<v Speaker 3>was murdered on her doorstep. I know a man was

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<v Speaker 3>tried and jailed for it, but then it was overturned

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<v Speaker 3>and her killer has never been caught.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I just make light of this, but was

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<v Speaker 2>her murder then presented on the show that she.

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<v Speaker 3>That begs the question and we're not making light. I don't,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just stole your one percent, so you're not

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<v Speaker 3>allowed anything in there. Okay, but yeah, So I just

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<v Speaker 3>thought that was like one of the greatest dms, like

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<v Speaker 3>the two parters.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally well structured. Yeah, way to miss your opportunity in

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<v Speaker 2>your moment like crime Stoppers, Crime Watch watchers, crime watch Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>crime like, way to miss your moment Like now, true

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<v Speaker 2>crime is bigger, let's cancel this right, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that people be into it whatever. So in summary,

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<v Speaker 3>those two things are ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Ridiculous. Yep, well I got one for you. If you

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<v Speaker 2>got a second, sit back down. This one has everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. This man's life is in a movie, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an oscar just waiting to happen. Brad Pitt's people

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<v Speaker 2>call me no for real. First, seriously, I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>When I read through this guy's life. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>page after a page. I was like it was reported

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<v Speaker 2>the newspapers, there was stuff in senate testimony. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just just shocked, Elizabeth. Over the course of this show,

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<v Speaker 2>we have talked drug smugglers. Yeah, we've talked hippie drug

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<v Speaker 2>dealers in Hawaii. We've talked dudes who faked their own deaths,

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<v Speaker 2>who talked about hypnosis. We talked about Pablo Escobar, who

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the CIA. We've never talked about the Iaron

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<v Speaker 2>Contra affair.

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<v Speaker 3>Have we No? But it's right for the picking.

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<v Speaker 2>Mix all of that together and you get this story.

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<v Speaker 3>You're kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>This is ridiculous crime. A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers.

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<v Speaker 2>I sincds. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>You are damn right.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Barren in his own words, this guy I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell you about it. He described himself as quote well, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just a farm boy from Arkansas. There is a

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<v Speaker 2>story here that is much deeper than it presents itself

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<v Speaker 2>on the surface.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh he says that, and he ain't lying.

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<v Speaker 2>Meet Gary Betzner.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Gary, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary had a rather all American upbringing. He was raised

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<v Speaker 2>in the Heartland. He born in the early forties, during

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<v Speaker 2>the war years, his formative years. This makes it be

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen fifties, one of those kids raised, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've talked before, Blue jeans Westerns on TV the

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<v Speaker 2>whole bit, right, Milkman. By the late nineteen sixties, he

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<v Speaker 2>was in his mid twenties, and so at this point

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<v Speaker 2>he's joined the military. He's become a pilot in the military.

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<v Speaker 2>He was one hell of a pilot while he was

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<v Speaker 2>in the military. The head of the top Gun program

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<v Speaker 2>reportedly told Gary that he was the best pilot he'd

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<v Speaker 2>ever known. You know, the top Gun program, right, that's

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<v Speaker 2>like the best pilots in the Navy. Yes, exactly. So

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<v Speaker 2>back home in Hayes in Arkansas, population fourteen hundred, Gary,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was what you might call a local celebrity,

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<v Speaker 2>colorful character. Now to pay his bills. What did he do?

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<v Speaker 2>What told you he'd become a pilot in the military,

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<v Speaker 2>comes back home, becomes a crop duster. He loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>He had thrills and chills and for you know, exhibitions

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<v Speaker 2>on the weekends. He would be a stunt flier occasionally.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so he's like a crop duster. Did he want

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<v Speaker 3>like did he walk around Walmart farting and then leaving

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<v Speaker 3>the aisle? Like did you do that professional.

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<v Speaker 2>High passes that the airplane kind airplane? Yeah, agricultural fields

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<v Speaker 2>coming in low and fast and or low and slow. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, this guy, he was such a good pilot.

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<v Speaker 2>He could skim the like watering holes and lakes around

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<v Speaker 2>his hometown of Hazen. And what I mean skim is

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<v Speaker 2>he put his waters right on the wheel and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just kissed the water with his wheel. That's real

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<v Speaker 2>difficult because if you catch it'll pull your right out right.

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<v Speaker 3>He makes me think of that Stephen Stills song Tree

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<v Speaker 3>Top Flyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I love that song very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Mainly because of the line don't do business that don't

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<v Speaker 3>make me smile.

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<v Speaker 2>Such a good, good one. Well, this dude is good

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<v Speaker 2>as the pilot dis he was. He also had his

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<v Speaker 2>fair share near death experiences. He crashed eleven planes. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Ever he walked away without a scratch, every single kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean it's like a low flying slow crop

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<v Speaker 3>duster just like jumps out and runs next.

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<v Speaker 2>To it, races it to the ground. So in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty nine, he's out there, you know, single guy moving

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<v Speaker 2>around in Hays in Arkansas summer totally Well, you girl,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't even know. We're two years out of the

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<v Speaker 2>summer love, and you know we're basically in the Oki

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<v Speaker 2>from Muskogee era of this part of.

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<v Speaker 3>The country took a while to flow out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're still like hanging on to like buzz cuts

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<v Speaker 2>and like rolled up blue jeans. But oh yeah they

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<v Speaker 2>did have The moon landing happened in nineteen sixty nine

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<v Speaker 2>in July. Everyone's all excited. So these people they have

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<v Speaker 2>a moon party. He goes to attend it. This is

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<v Speaker 2>meeting was fortuitous because this night it becomes the night

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<v Speaker 2>he beats the love of his life, or at least

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<v Speaker 2>for the woman he met, he was the love of

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<v Speaker 2>her life. I'll just say that. She says that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want words in his mouth. Anyway. Neil Armstrong took

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<v Speaker 2>one small step from man one giant leap for mankind,

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<v Speaker 2>and Sally met Gary. They were just like right there saying. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>when she was telling the story, she said, and I quote,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a boom in the universe. It just shook.

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<v Speaker 2>So apparently two universal things happened that night. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>fell in love like Muhammad A. Lee boxed Elizabeth shook

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<v Speaker 2>up the world. Anyway, There's one problem. Gary was already married.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he his wife was seven months pregnant. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>so that didn't stop married Gary from starting a family

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<v Speaker 2>with Sally. Sally, Someone's universe got shook, I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 2>So his first wife, Claudia. Soon their daughter Pauli was

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<v Speaker 2>born and then married Gary got a divorce, and he

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<v Speaker 2>got right with Sally and he made an honest woman

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<v Speaker 2>out of her, and they started a second family. So

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<v Speaker 2>Polly had a brother and sister joined their number. They

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<v Speaker 2>named the boy Travis named the girl Sarah Lee. Just

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<v Speaker 2>like the Dutch bakery known for it's delicious frozen.

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<v Speaker 3>Cakes, you know that, Like there's that jingle. Is it

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<v Speaker 3>nobody doesn't like Sarah Lee? Or nobody does it like

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah Lee?

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<v Speaker 2>So glad you asked. I looked this up, the Mandel

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<v Speaker 2>effect on this. I couldn't remember which it was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was certain I was right, so I wanted to look

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<v Speaker 2>it up. So yeah, so the question is on the

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<v Speaker 2>line you'll find it's debate. Is it nobody does it

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<v Speaker 2>like Sarah Lee? Or nobody doesn't like Sarah Lee?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, hold on which one do you think it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Which one do I think it is? How did you

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought it was nobody does it like.

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah That's what I always thought. Like and also like

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<v Speaker 3>the bond. Nobody does it better. It makes it. It

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<v Speaker 3>makes pound cake so sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, right, it's like surely Bassi's thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Walking down the freezer out crop dusting so sexy?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, why do you do this to me? So I

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<v Speaker 2>did as I told you. I looked at the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>I found that the according to the Frozen cake maker themselves. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>when you hear the full phrasing, the jingle catch race

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<v Speaker 2>makes way more sense. Right, So the full actual phrase

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<v Speaker 2>is everybody doesn't like something, but nobody doesn't like Sarah Lee.

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<v Speaker 3>That's stupid, right, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't care about all that because I'm like, dude, it's

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<v Speaker 2>nobody doesn't like Sarah Lee. That's Steve McQueen of clean phrasing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like, it's not some weird double negative contradiction.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody doesn't like something, but nobody doesn't like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell's cake? Anyway? Sarah Lee is the name

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<v Speaker 2>of gary second daughter. So what is this now? Twice

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<v Speaker 2>married father of three makes his way as a stunt

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<v Speaker 2>pilot and a crop duster. What does he do next?

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<v Speaker 2>To Elizabeth? He goes into business for himself. He started

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<v Speaker 2>a company called bettsnerch Flying Service. The company does well,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, does so well Elizabeth in nineteen seventy six,

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<v Speaker 2>he's able to sell his company.

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<v Speaker 3>Is flying service.

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<v Speaker 2>He does a crop dusting charter flights mostly crop dusting, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So he takes the profits from that and he moves

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<v Speaker 2>his family north. They relocate from Arkansas to Alaska, North Alaska.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've both been to Arkansas. Yeah, you've been to Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not. For my edification, Elizabeth, how different Arkansas

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<v Speaker 2>from Alaska? I mean, other than the weather that I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be similar at all? A culture shop.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it depends on where in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. This is also by the way, Peak Hippie Commune, Alaska,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I would imagine that there's not too much of a difference, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think rural it's a lot of the same people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, same types of people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean there's like logging and fishing and so

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, hard work.

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<v Speaker 2>At a lot of hard scrabble labor.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a much higher percentage of men than women,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But so, I mean I've only been to the tourist spots,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if I watched TV. Yes, I may have

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<v Speaker 3>watched some sort of Alaskan cop show at some point, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>and really learned a lot about you know, life and anchorage.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I just know northern exposure, which is really fictional,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that is not accurate, very true. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary takes his family to Alaska for an opportunity working

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<v Speaker 2>the oil pipeline business because it was huge. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So he went up there and he tries to go

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<v Speaker 2>and like bid on like an oil reclamation business. But

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<v Speaker 2>he he loses that because he doesn't now to like

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<v Speaker 2>who to like the base. He claims bribe, he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know how to like work the permit process. He loses

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<v Speaker 2>his bid, loses a ton of money. So he goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to what is he he knows, Elizabeth, what does

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<v Speaker 2>he know? Flying right? But he can't crop dust up there.

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<v Speaker 2>So meanwhile, also at the same time, I told you

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<v Speaker 2>it's nineteen seventy six peak hippie commune, Alaska. So he

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<v Speaker 2>starts smoking pot. He then starts realizing, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>could help out with this, so he starts flying in

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<v Speaker 2>loads of whiskey to the rural villagers and then picking

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<v Speaker 2>up like you know, other stuff in trade money. Then

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, oh, I could take out a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a pound of pot to those guys. Does that becomes

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<v Speaker 2>a pot smuggler?

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<v Speaker 3>I would imagine that there's tons of work taking supplies out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, definitely, definitely. But there's also a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>bush pilot's doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you had to differentiate himself. Yeah, so he's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, more costly load exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So meanwhile he turns his wife Sally onto pot. So

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<v Speaker 2>now she loves it too, a little girl from Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wow, this is not I love this cosmic,

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<v Speaker 2>wacky tebacy. But after this, you know, some time passes.

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<v Speaker 2>His business starts to go bad with the pot smuggling

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<v Speaker 2>because he loses his potcat and Gary finds it. He

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<v Speaker 2>can only fly up there for about six months of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, so he's really not able to make money.

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<v Speaker 2>So they have to go back home. Family moves back

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<v Speaker 2>down to the lower forty eight. Their return somewhat defeated

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<v Speaker 2>to Arkansas. Right, they just keep wanting to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of Hazen that they can't. But then fate played a hand. Elizabeth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary was brought low by gout the pain from the

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<v Speaker 2>condition was so debilitating he could no longer fly runs

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<v Speaker 2>for his drug smuggling clients and people that he would

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<v Speaker 2>like totally. So Fate played his second hand, Elizabeth, because

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<v Speaker 2>Gary heard about a treatment for his gout, something miraculous,

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<v Speaker 2>something that would alleviate the pain to just comfort and

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<v Speaker 2>let him work PCP. The treatment was cocaine.

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<v Speaker 3>Close.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very close. Not angel does. Yeah, apparently it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>he used because built it breaks up the uric acids

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<v Speaker 2>and apparently the chemistry makes some sense. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never had gout.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never used COCD, nor have I. I used to

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<v Speaker 3>work with a guy who had gout.

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<v Speaker 2>My father's got I hear about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why he had to wear flip flop to work,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that was a cover for possibly. But anyway, So

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<v Speaker 2>Garry also like to drink his cocaine. He didn't start it,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd just drop it in some gatorades.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait what you can drink cocaine?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, as long as you get into the body.

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<v Speaker 2>So he would like just drink it and then boom,

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<v Speaker 2>as he said, you're on your way, So send it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary found he also enjoyed cocaine recreationally. He's like, this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't just good for my gout, it's good for the Gary.

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<v Speaker 2>So that he starts to go to you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to get more cocaine. It's hard to find in Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 2>Where can I go to get myself more cocaine? I

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<v Speaker 2>got a plane. I'm gonna fly down to Miami. So

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<v Speaker 2>he roes down to Miami to looking to buy cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a smart young man. He goes right to the source.

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<v Speaker 2>He flies down. He decides, maybe I can get into

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<v Speaker 2>business with the smugglers in Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>Scratch a little off for garytop flying exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Y're this point in nineteen seventy seven. This is peak

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<v Speaker 2>cocaine cowboys era of Miami. Right. So Gary Wesner wants

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<v Speaker 2>to find himself a place inside that white lined world. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So Garry's like, how could I, a simple country boy

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<v Speaker 2>from Arkansas climb the ladder of this year import export business.

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<v Speaker 3>Pardon me, cocaine man.

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<v Speaker 2>So he somebody who has cocaine, lots of cocaine, And

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<v Speaker 2>Gary's like, you know what, let me get a little

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<v Speaker 2>off that next kilo flocko and uh at this he

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<v Speaker 2>arranges a coke by right, and so he's not supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to go over and they pick up some kilos at

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<v Speaker 2>his arranged coke buy. Gary feels that the vibe is

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<v Speaker 2>off right, so he's like, hey, why don't you test

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<v Speaker 2>that coke for me? Try it out muchacho, let me

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<v Speaker 2>see if it's any good. The coke dealer he won't

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Gary's it what? And this is the reason

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<v Speaker 2>is for it? This is the guy is no drug smuggler.

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<v Speaker 2>So Gary realizes this when he won't do the coke,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the DEA rushes in and Gary gets busted

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<v Speaker 2>at his first big coke by oh my god, they're

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<v Speaker 2>all he was popped with seven pounds of cocaine.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven pounds, yes, but it was a huge raid.

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<v Speaker 2>That night in Miami, they also busted two Miami Dolphins

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<v Speaker 2>players who were also caught selling cocaine. They were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to sell a pound of cocaine. It was a mood

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<v Speaker 2>a little.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a different time. Now, is that why now? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>do they encourage undercovered DEA officers to tune it up

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<v Speaker 3>and take drugs?

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<v Speaker 2>No they do not. They this point, Gary's facing twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years behind bars. So Gary gets let out on bail.

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<v Speaker 2>What's he doing now? He skidaddles back to Arkansas. He

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<v Speaker 2>goes back to his family, Sally, the two to three kids.

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<v Speaker 2>He has Polly with his first wife. It's like Daddy's

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<v Speaker 2>home kids. So back in Arkansas, Gerry needs to work.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got to pay for his lawyers or whatever. He

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<v Speaker 2>goes back to doing what he knows best. He starts

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<v Speaker 2>smuggling and he gets busted again.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So out on bail. Gary's now facing mandatory sentences, decades

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<v Speaker 2>in prison, possibly life. So time to get wicked with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary thinks. Garry's like kids, load up, We're going for

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<v Speaker 2>a drive.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there are there no crops to dust?

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<v Speaker 2>No? At this point, that won't pay for everything. September eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy seven, Besterner and his family left the town

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<v Speaker 2>of Hazen, Arkansas. They planned to take an outing, just

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<v Speaker 2>a family excursion. It's Gary, his wife, his daughter, Sarah Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary's behind the wheel of their family El Camino. Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh your kid, are you free? Car?

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<v Speaker 3>It's car, it's a truck. It's an el Comane.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an el Camino. So they are headed to a

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<v Speaker 2>Darry bar. Think Gary queen. Okay, Gary said he was

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<v Speaker 2>having car trouble. He pulls over the family el Camene

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<v Speaker 2>on the middle of a country bridge, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>matter like iron bridge, right right right, So he popped

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<v Speaker 2>the hood, checks the engine. Then, as if possessed by

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<v Speaker 2>a spirit or commanded by some unseen force, Gary walked

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<v Speaker 2>away from the car over to the side of the bridge,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he leapt over the side and plunged down

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<v Speaker 2>to the rushing waters of the White River. Elizabeth seeing

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<v Speaker 2>their husband, Cinema, who just ended his own life, his wife, Sally,

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<v Speaker 2>burst into tears. And I don't mean like the wetwork.

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<v Speaker 2>She erupted into hysterics. She's rending at garments, tearing hair.

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<v Speaker 2>The daughter Sarah Lee, equally shocked.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, hey, nobody does it Like Sarah Lee, I

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<v Speaker 3>would have survived that chump.

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<v Speaker 2>Spoiler alert. He had not leapt to his death, nor

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<v Speaker 2>had he intentionally ended his life. No, And now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you were wondering, was this one? Is this like

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<v Speaker 2>a sneaky self one percent? No, it was not, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 2>You should know better than that. Anyway, Just so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't end his own life, all right, So I

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<v Speaker 2>will proceed now to make fun of what he did do. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Betsner had just faked his own death and he

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<v Speaker 2>went the extra mile. His wife was in on it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait and then she went through the hole? Oh no, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They planned the moment, the bridge, the country drive, all

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<v Speaker 2>of it. In fact, they've been preparing for months. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how long Gary had been working on hypnotizing his wife.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, wait, wait, so she was hypnotized hypnotized? Yes, and

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<v Speaker 3>so was she aware? Okay, I gotta listen to some

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<v Speaker 3>ads and get my head right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's these ads? Hypnotized?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, one say back in a flash. All right, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're back. Yes, are you cool? Your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Oh yeah? I think well yeah, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So now let's get to the story the convincing widow.

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<v Speaker 2>So they told you they took no chances on her

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<v Speaker 2>having to be convincing to the law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the pair the couple, Gary and his wife Sally,

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<v Speaker 2>they practiced for months of hypnotism so that way she

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<v Speaker 2>would be believably acting. She would have to actually believe

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<v Speaker 2>her husband was dead. So to do that super intensive

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<v Speaker 2>hypnotism course, they work out their program. This is for

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<v Speaker 2>three weeks, twice a day, they're doing all this hypnotism stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>She's now primed to believe her husband's dead. The way

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<v Speaker 2>it worked out like this, Gary would put Sally under

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<v Speaker 2>Then he would tell her he'd jumped from a bridge

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<v Speaker 2>near Hazen, Arkansas. Then he planted a hypnotic suggestion. Sally

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<v Speaker 2>would believe Gary was dead at the sound of shoes

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<v Speaker 2>hitting the water. When she heard the shoes hit the water,

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<v Speaker 2>Sally would be triggered to sob uncontrollably because now her

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<v Speaker 2>husband was dead. The hypnotism worked so beautifully, so well

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<v Speaker 2>that Sally was the one who went and threw Gary's

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<v Speaker 2>shoes off of the bridge that day she was on it.

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<v Speaker 3>She takes self trick, knowing her.

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<v Speaker 2>Own part in it. When the shoes hit the water,

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<v Speaker 2>the hypnotism kicked in. When Sally heard gary shoes hit

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<v Speaker 2>that water from the bridge, she burst into tears, sobs uncontrollably,

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<v Speaker 2>her grief so profound that she was eventually checked into

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<v Speaker 2>a psychiatric hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh nice, Yes, so he never actually jumped, She just

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<v Speaker 3>threw the shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, Gary never went into the White River. He'd said

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<v Speaker 2>he climbed into a coordinated getaway truck driven by his

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<v Speaker 2>good buddy, and he took off for his new life

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<v Speaker 2>on the lamb. He was now dead and loving it.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, when he was doing the hypnotism course,

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the documentary about this as an HBO documentary

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<v Speaker 2>called The Ghost Pilot, and in it, his wife mentions

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<v Speaker 2>how he also added one other hypnotic suggestion he would

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<v Speaker 2>be the only man to ever give her really satisfying orgasms.

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<v Speaker 2>He put that in there, so for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>her time.

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<v Speaker 3>She wasn't ready abandons.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's telling the story, she laughs. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what.

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<v Speaker 3>To do with that. What are you going to do?

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<v Speaker 3>But like, honestly like the fact that she she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe in you so much. I want you to

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<v Speaker 3>abandon me with these children so you can run off.

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<v Speaker 2>So, after a while, believing her husband's dead, Gary contacted Sally.

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<v Speaker 2>He contacted her by payphone board. No, it's part of

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<v Speaker 2>the plan they'd worked out. It was a payphone one

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<v Speaker 2>town away, so she would go there once a month.

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<v Speaker 2>She'd drive over to that town at this pre arranged

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<v Speaker 2>time and he would call. So kind of guess that

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<v Speaker 2>on that first time he must have had like a

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<v Speaker 2>post hypnotic suggestion that he like said on the phone

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<v Speaker 2>and also like undid everything. I don't know, because otherwise

0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.600
<v Speaker 2>she'd be shocked. All her phone and her husband's on

0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:11.080
<v Speaker 2>the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>She still likes zombieing around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. She pretty much was because she believed he

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<v Speaker 2>was dead. That part of her was still gone, so

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<v Speaker 2>he had to undo it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming he talked about Oh my god, I have

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<v Speaker 3>a really hard time believing.

0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I do too, but this story made me much more

0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 2>of a believer anyway. In The Visible Pilot, Sally said,

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<v Speaker 2>quote being in love with a smuggler, it gets complicated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an understatement. So so Gary, where is he and

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<v Speaker 2>all of this? Where did he run off onto the

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<v Speaker 2>when he was on the way? Are you Gary was

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<v Speaker 2>in Hawaii?

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<v Speaker 3>Nice?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean if you're going to run Oh totally.

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<v Speaker 2>He changed his name to Lucas Nol Harmony like Noel. No.

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<v Speaker 2>He picked his last name. I thought you'd like this, Elizabeth.

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 2>He picked his last name from a road sign for Harmony, Californy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he says, Lucas it means light, Noel means peace

0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and harmony. Well, harmony means harmony, so his name means

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<v Speaker 2>peace harmony.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, by this point, thanks to a stint in

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<v Speaker 2>California where he got into acid, Gary had switched up

0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 2>his persona and he was now a drug advocating hippie

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<v Speaker 2>guru type living in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Gary wage behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>On the run. So he contacts his wife and uh,

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, Gary says, hey, bring Trap and Sarah Lee.

0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, don't not Polly. I didn't tell her I'm alive,

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<v Speaker 2>so don't bring her, but bring Travis and Saraly and

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<v Speaker 2>fly out. Uh you know. And oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>tell the kid, Hey, good news dad's not dead. So

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<v Speaker 2>you got to tell them that to kids like at

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<v Speaker 2>this point. Yeah, So he invites them at five and three,

0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 2>so invites them to join them in Hawaii. Sally picks

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<v Speaker 2>up the kids, flees Arkansas. They relocate to go be

0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Gary and they go become like become Buddhists. Right, I'm sorry,

0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 2>that's the type of nudists. They became nudists. Yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say, just said Hawaii didn't. I don't know.

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 2>They joined their hippie drug daddy, right, as I told you,

0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.359
<v Speaker 2>quasi nudist bearded guru guy. So the family they all

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<v Speaker 2>stripped down and like, okay, Dad, this is the new lifestyle.

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you're alive and not dead. Gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a mind bender. So from Arkansas

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<v Speaker 2>to Alaska, back to Arkansas and now of Hawaii, Dad's undead.

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<v Speaker 3>Tomb dade to the Naked Duster.

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<v Speaker 2>Interestingly, Travis the Sun, he said that these are the

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<v Speaker 2>happiest years of their lives. A pot growing, nudist hippie

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:21.919
<v Speaker 2>family on the lamb in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean it sounds like I do. Like

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<v Speaker 3>most little boys like little boys.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's just perfect exactly. It's warm enough they can

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<v Speaker 2>at all time.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So things eventually don't work out well for the family

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<v Speaker 2>in Hawaii because yet again Gary gets busted on drugs.

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.679
<v Speaker 2>This time they've been growing pot. He was actually growing it,

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.000
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't just smuggling. This time, you have big plants.

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Cops show up the house. They've got plants. Yeah, they're nudists, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So like, could you put some clothes on you're coming

0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:49.760
<v Speaker 2>with us? He gets brought in. He's fingerprinted when he's arrested.

0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.840
<v Speaker 2>That's bad. He gets bailed out because it's just a misdemeanor.

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 2>So before anything can come of the fingerprinting, Gerry's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out. Ye remember the last time you saw Gary

0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 2>it was So he goes back on the No more

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<v Speaker 2>Hawaii for Sally and the family. She has to take

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<v Speaker 2>the kids back state side to Hazen and Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 3>Why couldn't she stay in Hawaiian.

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she can make a go of it,

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:10.239
<v Speaker 2>So she has her family backside, So she goes back

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 2>to her family. Meanwhile, I mean this is where you know,

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.400
<v Speaker 2>we're only a couple of years past women being able

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<v Speaker 2>to have credit cards for the first time legally. So true,

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 2>you have to understand the options were not the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know they're an unconventional bunch.

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, totally. She could go go unconventional, but she is,

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you know. Anyway, she's just a girl from a small

0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 2>town Arkansas with her smugglerr husband just got it. No

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 2>sisters shoes. Anyway. Meanwhile, Gary, he gets back into drug

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 2>smuggling and he goes international with it, and he's loving it,

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 2>and right he gets back to his stunt flying days.

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.879
<v Speaker 2>They're all rolling around with heavy loads of pot, flying

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 2>low between trees to avoid DA agents and radar. Loving

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 2>it right, it's everything he loves. He's crop dustin, but

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:49.399
<v Speaker 2>more fun his hand he would have this handheld radar.

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 2>He could see where the spots of radar were and

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 2>would fly between the bubbles. You're kidding, Yeah, amazing fun failiar.

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Just he's down there, just inches from splashes of waves.

0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean for a guy who's basically a grown up

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 2>boy with a drug problem. Anyway, nineteen eighty two rolls around,

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<v Speaker 2>he meets up with a speedboat racer similar mentality named

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 2>George Morales.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, okay, what's your job, oh, speedboat international.

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Speedboat racers, so all around, good time, guy Morales.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, but there are fewer international speedboat racers than

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<v Speaker 3>there are marine biologists.

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 2>That's probably an even Yeah, so Morales. He was connected

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 2>to the Metayan Cartel. The Median Cartel is aka Pablo

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Escobar's Cartel Hippo man So boom. Just like that, Gary

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 2>is suddenly moving heavyweight for the Narco version of the

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Capo de Tute Cappo. Yeah. Being the pilot he is,

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Gary gets in good with the Medaian cartel. He becomes

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 2>a smuggler, daredevil that they love. He starts flying bigger

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 2>and bigger loads of drugs between Colombia and Florida. Things

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 2>are going really well for Gary. He's made it to

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the top of the heat for smugglers. So he contacts Sally.

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 2>He's like, baby, I got good news. I'm Morgan from

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Pablo Escobar. He has the family locate to Coconut Grove, Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>According to Sally, at this point, Gary now lived like Scarface.

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Now what do I mean by he lived like Starface? Well,

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Sally and her two kids, Travis and Sara Lee. They

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 2>show up in Florida and Gary attempts to fold them

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:09.400
<v Speaker 2>into his new lifestyle. Elizabeth, this would be difficult because

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm talking about the cocaine or the drug cartel.

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.679
<v Speaker 2>That would make it difficult for most. But Sally arrived

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:16.440
<v Speaker 2>with her kids. She found that Gary was living with

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 2>another woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, okay, a pattern with Gary. Gary, Gary did this

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 3>for you, he will do it for another woman exactly.

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Can't stress that enough.

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 2>He wanted them to start a polyamorous relationship. She's like, Hey,

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 2>there's ward hasn't been coined yet, but do you want

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 2>to become a thrupple, and so you know, she was like, eh, no,

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm from Hayes in Arkansas. I'm not into this. And

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Gary's like, okay, cool, cool, Then we'll stay here in

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the master suite. You and the kids can be down

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.199
<v Speaker 2>there in the kids room and he put them in

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 2>these little room anyway, terrible guy. Okay, right, fun moment

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 2>for Sally. So she's like, she stays in Florida. She stays,

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't leave. She stays with Lucas Noel, Harmony.

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 3>She leaves Harmony, yes, and instead.

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<v Speaker 2>She's going to go like coconut grow Florida. Oh my god,

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.880
<v Speaker 2>in a non functioning thropple, Like we keep it.

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<v Speaker 3>Clean on this show language wise. But I just like

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 3>what I would say to him in that moment, or

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 3>if I could insert myself in that scene, say to her, yes,

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 3>like smack some sense into her.

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Show up with a cab fully paid for here, get

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 2>you back to the airport. Well, I got good news.

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 2>By nineteen eighty three, Sally had enough. She took Travis

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 2>and Sarah Lee and she bounced out of Miami. She

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 2>even said, I have had enough. Okay direct quote the

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 2>wild part is that. Sally still says that Gary is

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 2>the love of her life to this day. No matter

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 2>all of this.

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 3>If you ask her the hypnosis, she says, you just

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 3>got to hypnotize. She'll never know pleasure again.

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 2>But she's still hypnotized exactly. Poor woman night. Oh yeah.

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Pabloar soar and the Mediine cartel to hear him tell it.

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Gary Besner and Pablo Escobar, they became tight homies, like

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.160
<v Speaker 2>real tight. They had like sympatico views of the world.

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I am number one, everybody number two. Right, So Pablo

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>basically he knew all about his Gary's real life, his family.

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>No at this point, remember he's going by Lucas Harmony, right,

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Lucas Noel Harmony. Yeah. So Pablo often asked him how Sally,

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Travis and Sarah Lee were doing. Yeah. So those poor kids, right,

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>they have the most famous cocaine smuggler. He is asking

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>about them now he knows them by name. The reason

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 2>he's like, are they doing their homework? Are they good kids?

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>You know? But he did this because their dad had

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 2>been killing it in the cocaine game. So he'd sent

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 2>people to find out about this guy, and he discovered

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 2>that he faked his death. He found the real family,

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 2>and then he had the people go up and talk

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 2>to his family in public, take pictures of him, and

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 2>come back and go and show him the photo.

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, because then now you'll never step out of line.

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, sure, Gary. He's at Gary. At this point,

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 2>he's got five different identities. He's working with Pablo Escobar.

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 2>He's making two hundred thousand dollars per load that he's

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 2>flying into the US, right, so five loads million dollars

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>he's smuggling. Loads are usually about four hundred pounds of cocaine,

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 2>so he keeps wanting to push the loads. It's right.

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 2>He's like, Oh, Pablo, we gotta go bigger, bigger. It

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.199
<v Speaker 2>was going to seven forty seven. He's like, Gary, are

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 2>you sure? Right. The director of the documentary The Invisible Pilot, right,

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>phill Lot, He told the New York Post, Gary tells

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 2>this great story of purchasing planes, and he created Pablo

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Escobar's air force. And it was several planes, big planes,

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>not just single injured and twin engines. These were jets,

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 2>so all moral judgments inside and that's a huge mountain.

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 2>We're moving to the side right now. Plane shopping with

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Pablo Escobar in.

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 3>The idea that he has like the all this whole fleet.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, can you imagine it? It's just you

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 2>and Pablo and you go on a test flight with

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 2>like a possible new coke smuggling beauty, and you're like, now,

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 2>rather than to talk about this, Elizabs, let's just be

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>about it. I'd like you to.

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Close your eyes as a close.

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 2>And picture it. You are ten thousand feet off the

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>you're flying. You're not like Superman though, more like Wonder Woman,

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 2>as in, you are inside of a plane, but not

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>an invisible plane like Wonder Woman. You are aboard a

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 2>private plane. There is a pilot and a co pilot,

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 2>and you are in the passenger section of this part plane,

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 2>seated on a couch, sipping on a cocktail. Is Pablo Escobar.

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>You are the private flight attendant. Oh god, the small

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>plane is leerjetic, comfortable, wellbow pointed. You have just prepared

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>a fresh round of drinks served on a silver tray.

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>You hate your new job. You promised yourself you'd stop

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 2>taking these random jobs. But you're doing a favor for

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>our friend. They said, one charter flight.

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Cool.

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Cool, and you said, sure, sounds fun. Now you're in it.

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>And anyway, the pilot of the plane, he gets up

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 2>from the controls, he turns it over to the co pilot.

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 2>He comes back and joins you in. Pablo Escobar. You

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 2>offer a drink to the pilot, Gary Bettzner.

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 3>He takes it almost to the pilot.

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 2>He asked you like the view. You assume he's being flirtatious,

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 2>but he means it literally. And also he's talking to Pablo,

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.719
<v Speaker 2>and so Pablo is focused on he's looking out the window.

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 2>So you look to below you is this beautiful, lush

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>green valley in the Colombian landscape. It's like a wrinkle

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>between the mountains. It looks kind of like Hawaii, just

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 2>more of everything, more leaves, more bushes, more trees. The

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>valley is just a chaos of shades of green. The

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 2>sky above christ in blue clouds above you, and then

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>in in the distance they are thick, puffy, looks like

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 2>rain's coming. Pablo says, stes Colombia, my friend. Now. Gary

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 2>nods and he agrees Columbia. And Pablo looks back from

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>the window. You hand him his refreshed drink. The ice

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>clanks in the cut crystal glass. Go sit, Pablo tells you.

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 2>He pats the seat next to him on the couch.

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 2>You're a little leery, but you put down the silver

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 2>tray and you sit with Pablo on the couch across

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the tiny coffee table on his own love seat. Gary

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 2>takes the sip and says, this is a great man.

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Do you know who he is? Is who's flying the.

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<v Speaker 2>Plane the copo? Okay, you do not know who this is.

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 2>This is Pablo Escobar. He will be the next president

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 2>of Colombia. He is a great humanitarian. Bablo smiles at

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 2>the praise. You wonder what the point is. Gary continues,

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 2>This man he gives the world cocaine. Give is a

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 2>generous word for what Pablo Escobar does. But you pertly nod.

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 2>You're polite. Gary goes on what he does is a

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>holy thing, the service he has performed for mankind and gout.

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Gary sniffs a little, and that's when it all clicks

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 2>into place. He's zooted on the coca Yes, hello, nods.

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 2>He's seemingly understanding what's being said about him. He interrupts

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 2>to talk more about planes Lucas. He says, because he

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 2>knows him as Lucas. You have convinced me the leriget

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>this is the way to go for us my business.

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to buy five of these now, Gary is key,

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm talking about, Pablo. He turns back to you.

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 2>This man, my friend here, he is a legend, and

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>rightly so, I would sing his praises to anyone, to you,

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>not only as a smuggler, but as a human being. Now, Pablo,

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>He winces at the word smuggler. Pablo looks at you

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 2>for reaction. You tell him that pays well, I imagine.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Now Gary has brought out a small glass vial of cocaine.

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 2>It attempts to discreetly do a little bit more. Pablo

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>looks disappointed. He asks, can the co pilots land these

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 2>plane now? Gary snorts a bump of coke off his

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 2>hand and promise, Oh sure, yeah, no problem. He's crashed

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>more planes and you've bought Pablo. This does not make

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Pablo Escobar feel better, doesn't make you feel better. You

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>just wonder how do I end up in these situations?

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 3>How do I up in these situations?

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Now? As fun as that all was for you and

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>for him, right, Arry eventually grew tired of his cocaine

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>smuggling days, Elizabeth, and probably that was as a result,

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>as they told you, the Colombians showing up at Sally's

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 2>house unannounced and taking pictures of his children, yeah, and

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 2>showing them to him. So old Lucas, Noel Harmon. He's like,

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I need to get out, and I probably need to

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 2>save my family too. So Gary plans his exit from

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>the cartel. That's not easy. It's a little bit tricky

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 2>because the problem is you know too much.

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>He still thought he could pull this off. I can

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>get I'm Gary Betzner or Lucas with the lid off.

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Now he's like, I'll just tell Pablo. I want two

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 2>weeks notice. No, wait, I'll tell Pablo a month. He's

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:37.239
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what does he tell Pablo. So

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 2>his retirement plans were hastened when Florida cops busted a

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 2>runner who was picking up a load from him at

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>a local airport. Gary lost a whole plane load of

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Pablo Escobar's drugs, all right, So he's lucky to survive

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 2>and stay free. So he's like, I gotta get out.

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 2>He sees the riding on the wall. Yeah, and like quote,

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 2>it was too risky. I packed my bags and locked

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 2>the door and left. He cuts and runs right. He

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>went back to where he felt safe, Hawaii. He's out

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>there among the nudists, which you think about, it's pretty smart.

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Really damn hard to hide a gun if you're naked. True,

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 2>So you see Pablo's men coming for you, then be

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>the one sounds exactly, look all clean. So Gary at

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.959
<v Speaker 2>this point escaped cartel successfully, he'd escape the Florida police,

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 2>escaped the US government. He's free. He's in a true

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.959
<v Speaker 2>paradise on Earth. Why what does Gary Betzner do next, Elizabeth?

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 2>He goes back to Miami. Why three months after he

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 2>escaped Florida with his life, Why why would he do that?

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 2>He was out Well, the answer is very simple. His

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>old boss and buddy, George Morales, after.

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<v Speaker 3>From the speedboatboat Racer.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, he owned an aviation firm and he had hired

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Gary to be one of his pilots. His friend gets busted,

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Morales contacted Gary and begged him to fly one last level.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always it's always one Morales.

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 2>He didn't want Gary to fly coc into America. Not

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 2>this time, not this time Elizabeth. This time he wanted

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Gary to fly load into El Salvador. He was running

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 2>weapons for a group called the contrast Us. Morow said

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 2>it had to be Gary because he was the best

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 2>pilot of the thirty pilots he had worked in his fleet.

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Gary called, I didn't want to do it, but I

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 2>love and trusted George. He took me in when I

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 2>was well, like an orphan. So he thinks about the

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 2>bonds between men who called themselves outlaws, and he makes

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 2>up his mind. Gary, He's explained it, he said, in

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 2>our business, your word is your bond. Not to his wife,

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 2>but to his business partners. His word is his bond. No,

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Gary Betzner, He's at this point working for Pablo Escobar,

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 2>soon to be working for the CIA, running guns to

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 2>the Contrasts. He's a conspiracy theorist, wet.

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Dream completely, so Morales.

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:40.479
<v Speaker 2>He promises, old buddy. Then, even if he got caught

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>this time, he could lean onto CIA context to get

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Gary out of his legal trouble with any Feds or

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 2>any smuggling issues, whatever came up. He was confident because

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>by working with the CIA, Morales had been able to

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 2>give about four million to five million dollars to the

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.760
<v Speaker 2>contrerass from drug profits now the Contras in the Narcos.

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 2>They were natural allies, Elizabeth because in the world, the

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 2>flow of world events, they were both virulent anti communists.

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 2>That wasn't enough for them to have a bond and

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 2>with Reagan, so they all just became a triangle. And

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 2>so Gary's in business with Pablo Escobar, the Contras, the CIA,

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 2>as he would later testify in the US Senate, it's

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 2>strictly a capitalist movement, this drug business.

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh god.

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, setting history aside for just one moment. In nineteen

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>eighty four, Gary Betsner was busted yet again. He was

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 2>flying coke for Pablo Escobar's cartel and he got caught

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>in Florida. Oooh yeah, Sadly, Gary Betster is no longer dead.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 2>He's now alive. He's all over the news. He's also

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>in federal custody. His family now has to deal with

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 2>the fact that Gary's been suddenly found alive. His wife

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 2>lied about this. She's still in the small town. So

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 2>everybody in the town now knows the truth. You know

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 2>what hell that would be?

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that small of a town.

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And Gary is still at this point counting on

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>his CIA connections to keep him out of trouble, and

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 2>he was wrong. Oh no, there was no such immunity

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 2>in place. Gary Besner was tried, convicted, and sentenced to

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven years and two months in federal prison on

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 2>charges of cocaine importation. It didn't take long for Gay

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 2>to realize I do not like it in here a

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 2>little bit. So he wanted out. What's he gonna do?

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 2>He had a plant's take a break, do little ads,

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 2>and next up, I'll tell you a helicopter escape attempt

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 2>from federal prison and inter Senator John Kerry. Okay, Elizabeth,

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 2>where were we?

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 3>That's right?

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Federal prison, the maghouse, the slammer, Yes, the Who's goal?

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the FC Yes?

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 2>What was it? Was it? Felony? Felony? University? No? Anyway,

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Bestner's inside, he doesn't like it. He gets his wife

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 2>to work on the outside to help get him free. Baby, baby,

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 2>if you just help me break out of prison this time,

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.479
<v Speaker 2>I swear I'll make it right for us.

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 3>He's hypnotizing her.

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<v Speaker 2>October ninth, nineteen eighty six, the UPI headline reads, FBI

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:18.280
<v Speaker 2>foils escape attempt. Oh boy, As the story reports, Dateline, Miami.

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Two convicts who chartered a helicopter to pluck them from

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 2>a prison yard were surprised when the choppers passengers included

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 2>three FBI agents. The FBI said Thursday. The choppers intended

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 2>passages were Gary Morales and his new prison by the

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 2>thirty year old fellow smuggler named Terry g. Brisino. Terry Yeah. Now,

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the story goes, quote, the two men ran to the

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>middle of the football field at MCC and stood beneath

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 2>the helicopter, which was hovering twenty feet above the field. Now,

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 2>these two men, Gary and his buddy Terry, Gary and Terry, Yeah,

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>they gaze up at the underside of the chopper like

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 2>it's the face of freedom, right, And all of a

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>sudden the face grimaces at them because Gary noticed, and

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I quote, they both suddenly realized the helicopter was occupied

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.839
<v Speaker 2>by three FBI agents and they were immediately taking into

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 2>custody by other FBI agents and prison personnel on the ground.

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Wait, how did he know they were FBI? Looking at

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 3>the moon, they were like dark suit.

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.320
<v Speaker 2>They had the FBI I had. They looked like the FBI.

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>So according to the EPI, the two were arrested quote

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.919
<v Speaker 2>at seven thirty five pm Wednesday, on the football field

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 2>at Metropolitan Correctional Center. In charge with attempted escape and conspiracy,

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 2>said William E. Walls, special FBI Agent in charge of

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 2>the Miami office. Anyway, my favorite detail about all this story, yeah,

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 2>quote on Monday, Betsner's wife in Chapel Hill in North

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Carolina gave undercover FBI agents in nineteen eighty four BMW

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 2>worth about forty thousand dollars as a down payment for

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the escape. The complaint said, if you wanted to know

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>the BMW six thirty three oh prison officials had been

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 2>listening in on the phone calls. The pilot was also

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 2>completely connected to the FBI. He was a sheriff.

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 3>So they were just like flipping through the paper the

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 3>new helicopter tour service and they're like, people.

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they tried to you have a

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 2>collect call. Somebody contacted them. They're like, I'm trying to

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.760
<v Speaker 2>get out, and they talked to somebody, and then somebody

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 2>was like, I think whoever. The first person they talked

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 2>to in prison ratted them out, and then they connected

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 2>him with like a sheriff, and the triffs like, yeah,

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm your guy, right, but.

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.839
<v Speaker 3>I like to imagine it that they called collect from

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 3>the prison to the charter service. Yeah, and then we're like, yeah,

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 3>my wife's gonna pay you. And she shows up and

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.319
<v Speaker 3>is like here will you take? Do you take car?

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 2>He take silver Bullion?

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 3>You except car?

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 2>How about eighty four BMW's.

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Have a collect call from He gets.

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Busted, And this is at this point, we're in nineteen

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 2>eighty six. A year later, nineteen eighty seven, Sally goes

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 2>to visit Gary in prison, after presumably helping him try

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 2>to escape. She discovers that Gary was married to a

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 2>new woman, a woman named Cynthia, and they had a son,

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 2>a boy named William. Now the news story's only ever

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>said his wife. I don't know which wife the love

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 2>of his life, wife Sally or his new wife Cynthia.

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 2>They don't mention by name. Huh yeah, So anyway, bad

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 2>way do.

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 3>You pick up this new wife? I don't know, I

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 3>don't even know how real quick on this way?

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Like he was like he saw her, like on the

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 2>prison bus. He was on his way anyway, but up

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:59.479
<v Speaker 2>the number. Yeah, anyway. The next year, eighty seven, Gary

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Bestner find himself to be the star of one of

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 2>the most bizarre moments in US political history, a time

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 2>known as the Iran Contra affair. Now the Iran Contra affair,

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 2>if you remember that loads of guns that Gary had

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 2>been running to El Salvador for George Morales, that one

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 2>last load. There are other loads. Apparently that wasn't the

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>only load. And during the one run of contraband, Gary

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:19.720
<v Speaker 2>was met at a rural out of the way airport

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 2>by an American named Chris, whom he understood to be

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 2>a CIA agent. Right now, to make sense of all

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:26.359
<v Speaker 2>this for the let's turn to the Congressional record and

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 2>inter Senator John Kerrey. But actually know what before that,

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 2>a quick little history? Who were the Contras? And what

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 2>was the Iran Contra affair? Before I dive into it,

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 2>like I'll just tell you, I'll keep it very mercifully brief.

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 2>The Contras they were counter revolutionaries in Nicaragua. The Contras

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 2>were less on a singular organized rebel army energy. They

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 2>are more like an umbrella term that referred to all

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 2>of the disparate groups who wanted to undo the Sandinistas.

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Now turning to Brown University, quote the contras were disparate

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 2>groups comprised former National guardsmen, ex Sandinista soldiers critical of

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 2>the new regime, peasants, farmers upset with intrusive Sandinista land policies.

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Nicaragua and exiles including former guardsmen and members of the

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Conservative Party gathered in El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Miami

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and discussed the prospect of both unarmed and armed opposition

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:17.439
<v Speaker 2>to the Sandinistas. Now, the Sandinistas were the socialists, their revolutionaries. Yeah,

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 2>they had been closely aligned with Cuba, Panama, Venezuela and

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 2>then via them, the Soviet Union. So they took ower

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 2>in January nineteen seventy nine, and that scared the hell

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 2>out of the anti communists in the US. Meanwhile, what

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 2>else was going on in nineteen seventy eight and nineteen

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 2>seventy nine in the world Elizabeth in the Middle East region,

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 2>the little thing called the Iranian Revolution That also scared

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>the hell out of many of the same people back

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 2>in the West. So they said, how do we get

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.799
<v Speaker 2>this chocolate in this peanut butter together. CIA is like, oh,

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 2>we got a plan. So the Theia they get involved

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 2>in thwarting both of these growing threats to the American hegemony. CIA,

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 2>they just kind of swirled it together like a chocolate

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 2>and vanilla ice cream, and they mixed their black book

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 2>funds together and they started sending missiles to Iranian revolutionaries

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 2>that were paid for with cocaine profits from Columbia. They

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.800
<v Speaker 2>were then circulated to the Nicaraguan counter revolutionaries, usually his

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Arms and Weapons. Okay, weird triangle. So nineteen eighty Ronald

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Reagan gets elected, things start getting anti communists real quick. Yeah,

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 2>he loved to talk about the evil umpires. You probably recall.

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 2>He was damn sure it wasn't gonna let any communism

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 2>spread in Central America. So he says, CIA have at it.

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 2>He gives them the green flag money whatever they need.

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 2>CIA starts spending the beginning half of the eighties working

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.400
<v Speaker 2>with narco traffickers to fund the concert They're going to

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 2>win this war with cocayen, so they use the drug

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:32.320
<v Speaker 2>profits from the concerts. They send that over to Israel

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 2>to buy basically their own missiles, but to pay Israel

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 2>to give them to Iran through second party vendors. It's

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 2>a whole thing, right. October fifth, nineteen eighty six, A

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 2>plane load to the contraband for the Concres gets shot

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 2>down and Americanism on board. This becomes undeniable physical evidence

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 2>of American involvement. Who Meanwhile, Congress had passed a law

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 2>we could not be involved in this. President Reagan's like, nah, Son,

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 2>you got your facts mixed up. I don't even know

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 2>this dude, He don't know me. What are you talking about?

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Nothing comes of this shot down American but the conscious

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.720
<v Speaker 2>story it won't go away. Later the same month, another

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:05.280
<v Speaker 2>shipment of American missiles transported, once again via Israeli channels.

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 2>It gets sent to Iran, intended for Iran's war against

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:09.720
<v Speaker 2>the Soviet backed neighbor Iraq.

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Now, Iran had paid three point six million dollars to

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 2>a CIA front company. The money was turned over to

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 2>CIA officials who supplied the missiles. The CIA took their

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 2>money from the Iran missile deal and diverted it through

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 2>black market funds to the contras in Nicaragua. Presumably this

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 2>money would be used to fight communists, all right, but

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 2>it usually went to the aid of narco traffickers, folks

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.880
<v Speaker 2>like Pablo Escobar. So November nineteen eighty six, two Lebanese

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 2>newspapers break this story and then that was it. It's

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 2>all over. American TV investigative reporters jump on it. It's

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 2>the new Watergate. The Washington Post finds George Morales, who's

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 2>in prison. They hear the story about this guy, so

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.959
<v Speaker 2>they find him, and then George Morales tells him about

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:48.959
<v Speaker 2>his pilot, Gary Bester. You's got to talk to Gary.

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 2>He'll corroborate what I say. Suddenly, this whole new Watergate

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 2>has all these threads to pull on, and people started

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 2>yanking Elizabeth. Oh, yeah, do you remember Iran Contra hearing?

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 3>I do? I was, you know, I was young?

0:43:58.239 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I just remember it took forever.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 3>It took forever, and I remember being very convoluted.

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 2>At the time, forever like four hours, and I didn't.

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Quite follow it, you know, Like you said, I was

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 3>very young and like very convoluted. Nor had I do

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 3>remember too, like I used to have when I was young.

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 3>I had a pin on like my jacket or whatever

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 3>that said. I survived a Reagan administration. If you're wondering

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 3>how obnoxious I was, yes, too, probably, but like honestly,

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:28.479
<v Speaker 3>like what what was I doing?

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Who knows.

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 2>It was probably came with one of your tope eggs

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 2>from your subscriptions to the New Yorker.

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Legit I did so.

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Also, there was another big name in this. Uh, there's

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Colonel Oliver North.

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:39.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Senator John Kerrey really made his name during this, other

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 2>than obviously what he'd done with the My Life masker

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 2>stuff as a soldier, but as a senator, this is

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:47.439
<v Speaker 2>what he makes his name in a lot of ways.

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 2>He's on the national news all the time. And at

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 2>the center of all of this is Gary Bestner. Now

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about Gary Besner. Imagine adding this figure to.

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 3>This, this little naked cropped us You.

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Ready to talk Gary, This is the last thing that

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 2>the CIA wanted, all all right. Somehow Gary makes it

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 2>safely to the Capitol and he's able to testify before

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 2>the Senate on April seventh, nineteen eighty eight. Other witnesses

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 2>are disappearing throughout this time. People are dropping deck and overdoses.

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:10.879
<v Speaker 2>It's bad.

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:11.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 2>So at one point Gary recalled force. Senator carried the

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 2>excitement of his smuggling days and how he'd once had

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 2>to employ evasive maneuvers to avoid two DA planes chasing him.

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I went between the condominiums and flew down

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 2>along the waterway and Gary managed to sneak in like

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 2>a landing at a nearby airport. John Carrey is loving this, right,

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 2>she had another one. He's telling him a similar like

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 2>hard luck story at the other end of a smuggling run.

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:33.879
<v Speaker 2>One time, he was flying a plane that had been

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 2>painted military green. He was flying it low to avoid radar.

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 2>He was low on fuel and he was loaded down

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 2>with cocaine. He took a zigzag path over Cuban airspace

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 2>that triggered a response from the Cuban Air Force. They

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 2>sent up two MiG nineteens to shoot him down. He

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.959
<v Speaker 2>had to perform epic barrel rolls, disappeared behind a cloud bank,

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 2>and he emerged from the thick cloud bank and dropped

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 2>into this mountain valley and used the high valley walls

0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:00.720
<v Speaker 2>as cover. He's literally doing like you know, the gun type.

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Why if we just saw yeah, so that scrape for

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>the Cuban Air Force. It convinces him to get a

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 2>transpotter code so he could alert the Cubans and who's

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be flying over their airspace? As he just

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.359
<v Speaker 2>makes a little change, like, hey, guys, ca I buy

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.880
<v Speaker 2>one of those transponders. Here's a million dollars. They're like okay.

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 2>So so now I don't know if you know this,

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 2>but Senator John Kerry is a pilot, so he was

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:20.840
<v Speaker 2>loving all. He keeps asking questions after a question, and

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.240
<v Speaker 2>people are like, Senators, should we talk about the Iran Contra.

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 3>He's like, moral issues, Yeah, let's get.

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Back to the Iran contrace. So in an LA Time

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 2>story from April eighth, nineteen eighty eight, with the headline

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 2>gave Contras four million dollar drug smuggler testifies, it detailed

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Morales and Gary Betzner's stunning testimony before Senator John Kerrey subcommittee,

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.280
<v Speaker 2>and I quote Senator John Kerrey said that the testimony

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 2>before the Foreign Relations sub Committee he heads quote makes

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 2>it very clear that narcotics dollars were involved in the

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Contra support process. He also said the testimony indicates that

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 2>the Reagan administration officials turned their back on drug trafficking

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:56.320
<v Speaker 2>and the interest of pressing their support of the Contra's

0:46:56.440 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 2>guerrilla war against Nicaragua's San Denista government. So he basically

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 2>connected that the CIA was doing all this stuff. Yeah,

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:04.839
<v Speaker 2>you hear about. He's the one who's like, oh, yeah,

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:08.240
<v Speaker 2>here it is Awaa doing the cocaine with the Contras

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 2>and the Iran and the missiles. Yeah here it is. Yeah,

0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm at the center of all of it. I flew

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 2>that stuff.

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm Gary, exactly.

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Call me Gary. This is by buddy George. So they

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 2>both testified, George and Gary. They testified before the Senate Commissions.

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Morales testified the using his fleet of planes his pilots

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 2>delivered contraband. From nineteen eighty four through eighty five, he

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 2>ranged six flights to landing strips in remote locations in

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Costa Rica, in particular, this one landing strip that was

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 2>adjacent to a ranch owned by this mystery American farmer

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 2>named John Hull. Now the details were like a real

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 2>life spy movie. You got Iranian Iranian missile deals and

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 2>narco traffickers and a mysterious American farmer. Totally right. So

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 2>his best pilot, Gary Betzner, he corroborated his old buddy's testimony.

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 2>He testified he indeed flew in loads of weapons to

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>John Hall's landing strip in Costa Rica. In exchange, he'd

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 2>fly at with Duffel bags of cocaine. So Morales is

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:00.720
<v Speaker 2>brought in by the CIA and the contrass he brings

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 2>in his hippie pilot, Gary Bessner. Gary, I was operating

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:06.319
<v Speaker 2>under the assumption he was protected by CIA handlers. So

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:09.320
<v Speaker 2>he tells that to John Carrey. In senate testimony. Gary

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 2>tells Senator Carry that he believed Morales quote had made

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 2>a deal with the CIA to supply the contrast. He

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 2>wanted me to fly guns in ammunition to the contrast

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 2>and bring some contra band back. So he's like, this

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 2>is what I was told. So Gary tells, you know,

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Senator Carry, that he'd also met the CIA mystery American

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 2>John Hall on multiple occasions. He'd personally given him guns.

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 2>He gave them some M sixteen machine guns, those big daddies.

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 2>He gave him some M sixteen rifles as well a

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 2>C four explosives. Land mines. The land mines were particular

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 2>interests because they used them to mine the harbors and

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 2>it became a big story and the nose and ships

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 2>were going down. So he's like, oh, yeah, I delivered

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:45.280
<v Speaker 2>those exact mines, all of it for exchange for cocaine.

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 2>It was great and they were like what he's like. Yeah,

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.400
<v Speaker 2>and over small arms. They gave me fifteen to seventeen

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:53.320
<v Speaker 2>buffel bags of cocaine. Now, Elizabeth, the nineteen eighties, America,

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 2>the nation was shocked, shocked to hear this. So we

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.760
<v Speaker 2>may not be so shocked now, but they were shocked.

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 2>So Gary told Sandra Carry with a straight face, he'd

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:06.240
<v Speaker 2>smuggled cocaine to safeguard the future of America. And I quote,

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 2>somewhere inside of me, I have a deep appreciation of

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:12.399
<v Speaker 2>my country, It's history, the constitution, and what it stands for.

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:17.240
<v Speaker 2>It still moves my soul. Now, none of his testimony

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.439
<v Speaker 2>helped lessen his sentence. Perhaps he was telling the truth.

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that. Gary Betsner never got any protection

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:24.720
<v Speaker 2>from the CIA. He served at his full prison sentence.

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 2>He was finally set free in twenty eleven. He's still

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 2>alive today. As I said, he recently starred in the

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 2>HBO documentary The Invisible Pilot. I recommend it if you

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:35.799
<v Speaker 2>actually a three part series. Now, Gary has remarried, in

0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 2>case you were wondering how his love life is doing.

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 2>He has a fifth wife. Her name is Julie. They

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 2>live in what seems to be her mother's basement. A

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:45.600
<v Speaker 2>typical night for them, according to Gary, is I usually

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 2>sit there, Julie sits over here. She smokes cigarettes and

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:53.240
<v Speaker 2>I smoke weed. Oh so eighty year old Gary smoking

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 2>weed the basement in Arkansas?

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Does he have a new child named Marie Calendar?

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 2>If like me, you were still thinking about Gary's poor kids, Yeah,

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Sally spoke to this. She said in the documentary The Mother.

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's so many stories about crazy smugglers, but

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 2>they never talk about the women in the family. They

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 2>never talked about those that were left behind, who really

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 2>carried the weight. Okay, now she only alluded to the kids.

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 2>She didn't actually mentioned them. I guess there's your answer.

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 2>The kids still came second, even.

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 3>In her right always.

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll say this, if you ever hear this, Travis and

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Sarah Lee, I feel for y'all. I got a raw deal.

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I just hope you can laugh at this with us,

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 2>because you can. Okay, Look, I'll put it this way.

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 2>You can pick your nose, you can pick guitar, but

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 2>you can't pick your family. So you just have to

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.839
<v Speaker 2>endure them gracefully. They're the heroes in Yes, I hope

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 2>you're all in a good place. I really do. Honestly,

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 2>there you go, Elizabeth the outlaw folk bower. Did the

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 2>story have everything? I mean, do you remember when Gary

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 2>hypnotized his wife to fake her own death?

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:51.240
<v Speaker 3>That was so long ago, it's like four years ago. Takeaway,

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 3>my ridiculous takeaway is one if you if you wind

0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:57.760
<v Speaker 3>up having to go to Hawaii, just stay in Hawaii,

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:04.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, although don't don't you know, impose on local culture.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, come on, like you're there.

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<v Speaker 2>I got there.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think, too, I still don't believe the

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<v Speaker 3>hypnosis thing, and is she still hypnotized? You'd have to ask, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>what's your ridiculous take Oh my god, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for asking. No, mine was actually yours. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna take it back. Hypnotism, that's wild, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up with that? What's up with that? So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it really works. I mean, this is, like iose,

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<v Speaker 2>for those who believe.

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<v Speaker 3>It works, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that's the key aspect. When I was doing research,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like seeing different people do hypnotism, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that they can get people to like put

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<v Speaker 2>their like bodies on chairs and then they go up

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<v Speaker 2>and stand on people and stuff to prove that they're

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<v Speaker 2>like stiff as a board or you know, stiff a

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<v Speaker 2>steel or whatever. So I've seen I saw a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of people just some wild stuff and they were just convinced.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's just purely if you can convince

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<v Speaker 2>a person, they can go a lot further than they

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<v Speaker 2>would ever think possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but even if I believe it, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>my body would be like, yeah, let's go planking. Like No.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my point is that I think that it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>you may break something, you may have written, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like you may never walk again. But I think for

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<v Speaker 2>those seven seconds you would do it doing it and

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<v Speaker 2>then your body would collapse or whatever. But yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I was blown away by some power suggestion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't do benefits, Gary Betzner. Anyway, that's all I

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