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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with America, now join the conversation called Buck

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Speaker 1: toll free at eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's

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Speaker 1: my friends, welcome to the Freedom. Much great to have

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Speaker 1: But first, the tale of two witch haunts. So you

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Speaker 1: a sharp price in anti semitic um and anti Semitic

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Speaker 1: incident across the United States. And I wonder what do

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Speaker 1: you say to those among the Jewish community in the

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Speaker 1: States and in Israel and maybe around the world who

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Speaker 1: believe and feel that your administration is playing with xenophobia

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Speaker 1: and maybe racist Jones. We're talking about a rise in

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Speaker 1: anti sentitism around the country, some of it by supporters

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Speaker 1: in your name? What you and can I be honest

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Speaker 1: with you? And this has to do with racism and

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Speaker 1: horrible things that are put up, some of it written

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Speaker 1: by our opponents. You do know that do you understand

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Speaker 1: that you don't think anybody would do a thing like that.

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Speaker 1: Some of the signs you'll see are not put up

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Speaker 1: by the people that love or like Donald Trump. They

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Speaker 1: put up by the other side. You've got people that

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Speaker 1: are essentially mocking the administration and mocking Trump when he

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Speaker 1: says that that there are false flags, that there are

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Speaker 1: people that are at the rally that are not Trump

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Speaker 1: supporters with signs. I believe that that is that that

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Speaker 1: has happened, But I also know that it was far

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Speaker 1: too convenient for the anti Trump opposition that all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden there are these threats to Jewish centers across

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Speaker 1: the country, and they're immediately by the media tied to

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Speaker 1: Trump and the climate, and we find out Juan Thompson

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Speaker 1: is the first person to be arrested for making multiple

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Speaker 1: threats to Jewish centers, and he is a former writer

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Speaker 1: for a far left, far left wing website. He's a

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders supporter. He's African American, he is a communist.

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Speaker 1: What am I missing? Oh, he's not a Trump supporter

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Speaker 1: that I do know. Yeah, he's right at Central testing

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Speaker 1: actually for Trump supporters. I'm oh, of course not. And

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Speaker 1: I you know, we've seen a time and time again

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Speaker 1: hoax is perpetrated in order to make like a like

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Speaker 1: supposed right lingers look bad and attend to be left

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Speaker 1: wingers who are are advocated I committing you know, these

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Speaker 1: forms of violence, these threats and um and just happened

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Speaker 1: far too often, by the way. I just think that

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Speaker 1: this adds to the further evidence I heard somebody else

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Speaker 1: say this today further evidence that Donald Trump on the

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Speaker 1: time machine, because he's like constantly able to like see

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Speaker 1: these things before that actually happened, and then they happen.

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Speaker 1: I just had I don't know if you have, if

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Speaker 1: you know, David, if fun, if you don't, I should

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Speaker 1: you guys should should grab a coffee. He's a great guy.

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Speaker 1: He's the editor in chief of the Alga Minor, which

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Speaker 1: is the largest, uh Jewish newspaper, fastest growing Jewish newspaper,

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Speaker 1: I should say, in this country. And he, uh, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about this issue. He follows it very closely, and

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Speaker 1: we're both like, look, there's there's nothing to tie these

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Speaker 1: threats to Trump. And the fact that the media before

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Speaker 1: there's anything to tie to Trump just automatically jumps to

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Speaker 1: that conclusion, in fact, makes the whole thing more suspicious.

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Speaker 1: That it makes me less inclined to believe that it

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Speaker 1: was Trump supporters. This is a great case study in

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Speaker 1: the way the press trees everything, which is the press

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Speaker 1: and you and I have talked about the lights has

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Speaker 1: a responsibility to be critical of people who are in power.

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Speaker 1: But the presumption on the part of Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: always a presumption of guilt, not a present of just

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Speaker 1: needing to be vetted. Right. So for the France, Ulist

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Speaker 1: was in jilt when it comes to Nonald Trump and Trump.

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Speaker 1: The only thing he could have said, um that that

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Speaker 1: would have satisfied his local critics would be, my own

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Speaker 1: supporters are anti Semites, and I disavow my own support.

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Speaker 1: That's what they were looking for. And of course he's

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Speaker 1: not going to say anything like that. He was especially

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Speaker 1: and but the press just has this seper dream where

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Speaker 1: they think that there's all this like anti Semitism emanating

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Speaker 1: out of that Donald Trump is responsible for, by the way,

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Speaker 1: in their eyes, and yet time and again we're seeing

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Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with Donald Trump supporters at all.

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Speaker 1: On in this case, it was the fursest thing from one.

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Speaker 1: It was an anti Trump communist who worked for the

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Speaker 1: Intercepts and um who got fired actually saprocating stories. So

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Speaker 1: it couldn't be any more perfect for Donald Trump. Literally,

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Speaker 1: a reporter who was anti Trump, who manufactured fake news,

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Speaker 1: was a person who was threatening Jewish centers with bomb threats.

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Speaker 1: I mean really, And I also want to point out

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Speaker 1: even after this has come out. Now they're saying, well,

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Speaker 1: he's not responsible for all the threats. Okay, so there

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Speaker 1: are there are other bad people out there. But given

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Speaker 1: that the first one here and actually when when you're

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Speaker 1: reading this guy's story, it seems like it seems like

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Speaker 1: he's actually, uh might might be mentally ill. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it seems like this guy has had a break with

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Speaker 1: with reality. But there are other bad people out there

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Speaker 1: doing bad things. Can we just not assume that they're

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Speaker 1: necessarily Trump supporters and until we know something about them

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Speaker 1: other than the fact that there are threats to Jewish centers.

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Speaker 1: I don't, I think, but the press won't do that.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's still well the other ones. That tone

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Speaker 1: you get now is well, the other ones are clearly

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Speaker 1: Trump supporters. Oh okay, there's no confirmation bias that work

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Speaker 1: here at all. No, we're gonna spend more time on

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Speaker 1: president from culpability here than we are in the actual suspect.

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Speaker 1: So I don't. I mean, that's just the way that

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Speaker 1: the press is treated something most racing, and I don't

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Speaker 1: expect that. Yeah, definitely not. Vince Coloniese is the Daily

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Speaker 1: Callers editor in chief. Daily Caller dot Com is where

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Speaker 1: you want to go for all of their stories. They

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Speaker 1: do great stuff. Vin, I need you to walk us

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Speaker 1: through because one of your guys, one of your investigative reporters,

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Speaker 1: broke this UM Pakistani suspects and House I T probe

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Speaker 1: received four million from dem reps. What you tell what

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Speaker 1: is this story? Because I even I was reading, I

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Speaker 1: was like, how does this happen? And what is going on? Well,

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Speaker 1: first off, thank you for mentioning Luke Rosiak, who has

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Speaker 1: done this tremendous work at the Daily Call our News

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Speaker 1: Foundation and this investigation has written some half dozen stories

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Speaker 1: already on the subject, and all of them are neatly

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Speaker 1: found at the bottom of each piece, so you can

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Speaker 1: go and read all of them. But the core concept

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Speaker 1: is this house democratics all sort of hired the same

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Speaker 1: I T family literally family of brothers to manage U

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Speaker 1: these Pakistani the Pakistani family full access to all of

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Speaker 1: their emails and their I T for success, and they're

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Speaker 1: now under the family is now under a criminal investigation

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Speaker 1: by Capitol police for UM in part removing hardware from

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Speaker 1: the Capital that they shouldn't have and in rapid success,

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Speaker 1: and all of these Democratic had to fire these i

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Speaker 1: T guys to whom they've paid um over four million

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Speaker 1: dollars Luke discovered, which is, you know, a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: And uh so there's all the specisms involved, including information vulnerability,

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Speaker 1: especially among Democrats, the fact that they just gave that

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Speaker 1: these people full access to their information and yet now

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Speaker 1: they're under criminal investigation. I think there's a lot more

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Speaker 1: to be developed there. Um Luke of course is following

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Speaker 1: it very closely. But as we continue to debate whether

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Speaker 1: or not Russia had some impacts on an election by

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Speaker 1: sending up phishing emails and tricking gun pats into giving

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Speaker 1: up this password inside the Democrats own offices in the

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Speaker 1: U s. House of Representatives, they had an entire family

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Speaker 1: of guys that they were paying who were take or

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Speaker 1: using their information in a way that has now gotten

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Speaker 1: them in trouble to the point that they're under criminal investigation.

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Speaker 1: This would seem to be a much more interesting and

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Speaker 1: important story to me, and I would think to anybody then,

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Speaker 1: say Mike Pence's email getting fished and there being the

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Speaker 1: exposure of that email about a rogue squirrel up in

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Speaker 1: the Capitol building attic or something that was bothering him

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Speaker 1: in Indiana, like who cares the the email of the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star was running. I couldn't believe it. There was

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Speaker 1: literally one about the fence that the governor's mansion there

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Speaker 1: like a security matter. Oh wow, you know I was

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Speaker 1: was was bobbed the security guard five minutes late to

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Speaker 1: his post at the governor's mansion, Like this is a

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Speaker 1: national security issue. It's crazy. Well, Buck, have you noticed

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Speaker 1: how many like half baked stories where we discussed now

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Speaker 1: in the age of Trump versus when we what we

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Speaker 1: did in the age of Obama. So during the Obama administration,

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Speaker 1: any stories that was semi critical as the president or

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Speaker 1: semi steptical as the president is it didn't include like

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Speaker 1: the full completion of every single known detail that could

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Speaker 1: possibly come to fruition, then the story was always called

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Speaker 1: into question as well. This is just circumstantial association because

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Speaker 1: represent anything to hold against President Obama. With President Trump,

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Speaker 1: every single story, no matter how developed it is, if

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Speaker 1: it even has an inkling of information that that should

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Speaker 1: be perceived as damaging him, it's taken through the full

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Speaker 1: When I was when I was over at CNN, Vince

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Speaker 1: talking about Hillary's emails, and I'm somebody would who had

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Speaker 1: spent years handling classified information, and I had a t

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Speaker 1: S clearance, and I would say things like, there's no

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Speaker 1: way if that was her main and only email system,

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Speaker 1: there's no way she doesn't have classified on there, and

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Speaker 1: if she does, it's a crime. And they'd bring on

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Speaker 1: other commentators who had never had a clearance, would say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't know that, and the your anger

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Speaker 1: will be like, yeah, Buck, you don't know, Actually I do.

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Speaker 1: But that that was how set in the in the

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Speaker 1: Hillary camp things were. With Trump, They're running out with

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Speaker 1: these as you as you, as you point out these

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Speaker 1: embarrassing stories, and I mean the Pen's email, there's no

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Speaker 1: compared there is no comparison whatsoever, and that anybody would

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Speaker 1: even try is a joke. But Vince, we're gonna run

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Speaker 1: into the next hour if I don't break it here.

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Speaker 1: Vince Colonies is the Daily Callers editor in chief Daily

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Speaker 1: callr dot com for all of their latest Vince, have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend. Thanks for hanging out in the Hut,

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Speaker 1: you too, Thanks Team Hey A break eight to five

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Speaker 1: Freestyle Friday continues. Just a few I got a lot

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Speaker 1: of calls lighten it up here in the freedom Hunt

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Speaker 1: team Buck, thank you for that. Let's uh, let's knock

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Speaker 1: them down. Michael in North Carolina, w p T I,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Michael? All right? Not much fuck love listening

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Speaker 1: to you. By the way, You're doing a good job,

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Speaker 1: good work, appreciate. I want to say something for I

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Speaker 1: get started, and that's this. Diplomacy doesn't start without communication.

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Speaker 1: So at some point or another Trump doesn't need to

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Speaker 1: speak to Russia. At some point another the media needs

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Speaker 1: to lose their fascination with him speaking to Russia. I

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Speaker 1: understand their whole conspiracy through, but I didn't hear them

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Speaker 1: at one time back inn when there was the audio

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Speaker 1: recording of video and audio recording of Obama sitting with

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was a diplomat, ambassador, prime minister,

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Speaker 1: but it was a Russian official. I will, I will,

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Speaker 1: let I will transmit this to Vladimir. I'm a one

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Speaker 1: man audio player. Oh yeah, yeah, But you know, I

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Speaker 1: didn't hear and I still don't hear the media bringing

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Speaker 1: that up very much. I mean, that was massive and

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Speaker 1: I thought, I thought for sure back then there would

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Speaker 1: be a story of that because you know, the whole

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Speaker 1: crimea thing that happened shortly after that, it's almost like

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Speaker 1: he was complicit in it. But yet there's no there's

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Speaker 1: no substance with that. It's like, okay, well him and

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Speaker 1: Hillary with her whole deal with what was it a

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Speaker 1: uranium wine or or whichever, with of our uranium that

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Speaker 1: was contracted to Russia. You know, all these all these

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Speaker 1: democratic Russian connections aren't really being mentioned. Oh you mean,

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Speaker 1: you mean like when Hillary was Secretary of State and

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Speaker 1: her husband got paid five hundred thousand dollars for one

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Speaker 1: speech by a Russian bank, which means the Russian state

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Speaker 1: more or less because Russian states own the Russian banks,

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Speaker 1: that must have been one heck of a speech. Must

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Speaker 1: have been good. Oh yeah, not not not to mention,

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Speaker 1: and and there's still some some information to be gathered

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Speaker 1: on this. There was a Senate Congressions hearing all this.

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind that that that Democrat Democrat federal prosecutors

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Speaker 1: wanted to lock up Bob McDonald and his wife because

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Speaker 1: loans and gifts from a businessman in Virginia and no

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Speaker 1: official favor was done. Meanwhile, Hillary is Secretary of State

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Speaker 1: and her husband is getting paid a half a million

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Speaker 1: dollars of speech by foreign countries, including Russia, which is

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Speaker 1: a foreign adversary in geopolitics, and nobody even bats an eyelash.

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Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, Bill speeches are just great. Who wouldn't

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Speaker 1: pay a half million dollars for him? I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get a half million bucks anymore, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you that, no. And it's bribery at the highest level

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Speaker 1: for that, you know, Michael. It all ties into right.

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Speaker 1: People look at this now and they say, oh, so

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Speaker 1: we're supposed to be so outraged over Jeff Session speaking

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Speaker 1: twice to the Russian ambassador once in a completely off

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Speaker 1: the cuff kind of, you know, chance setting, and we're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be so outraged, but that meanwhile, their candidate

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Speaker 1: global bribery scheme, selling influence at the very highest level

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Speaker 1: to foreign governments while she was Secretary of State full stop.

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Speaker 1: And they want us to be outraged about Jeff Sessions

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Speaker 1: being like, you know, hey, what's up Casel. Yeah, let's chat.

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Speaker 1: I mean just not gonna happen. It's just we're just

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Speaker 1: I just can't I can't summon the outrage. I can't

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Speaker 1: do it. Michael Shields time, and thank you for calling

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Speaker 1: in from North Okay. Quick, we got what when the

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court justice would be elected? And just Sessions

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Speaker 1: is one stand I listened to that man for a

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Speaker 1: few weeks there, and I had actually hoped that he

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Speaker 1: would be running for president under this last election. But

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Speaker 1: I'm glad Trump did win. I think it's ridiculous that

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Speaker 1: they're going out from Okay. Thanks Michael appreciated. Uh, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's freestyle Friday, which means that we're gonna be bouncing

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Speaker 1: around from current events to just interesting topics that are

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Speaker 1: in the news. Uh. And I want to give you

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Speaker 1: a taste of some different things this uh, this afternoon,

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Speaker 1: this evening. So we're gonna talk about space coming up

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Speaker 1: and space exploration, the space X program, the private sector

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Speaker 1: taking people into outer space, the Moon, all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: So Team Buck, we're gonna boldly go where the team

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Speaker 1: has never gone before. Stay with me, Buck Sexton, with

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Speaker 1: America now where there is always something to talk about

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Speaker 1: where you can trade opinions with Buck. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: you'll win though. Just call eight four four Buck. That's

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Speaker 1: eight four four read two eight to five. All right, Buck,

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Speaker 1: you're on Welcome back team. Space is in the news,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about it for Freestyle Friday or three.

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Speaker 1: The report out of Fox News space X could beat

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Speaker 1: NASA back to the Moon. Well, this sounds interesting. We

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Speaker 1: should have somebody who's an expert on the subject join us. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we've got one. Phil Larson. He was a Senior Advisor

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Speaker 1: for Space and Innovation at the White House. He's previously

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Speaker 1: worked for Elon Musk's space X team, where he collaborated

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Speaker 1: with the f A, NASA, d O, d U, S, industry,

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Speaker 1: and foreign entities on space X launch campaigns. He also

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Speaker 1: helped roll out of Mars partnership with NASA. Fantastic stuff, Phil,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for calling in. Super happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me Buck. All right, so let's talk

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Speaker 1: about it. Space X is planning to do what and

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Speaker 1: it could get to get to the Moon faster than NASA.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. Well, it's important to point out, of course,

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Speaker 1: NASA has already been there a bunch of times in

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Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies. So what's unique about this mission

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Speaker 1: And it's a particularly opportune moment, I think for SpaceX

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Speaker 1: to announce something like this as a new administration, you know,

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Speaker 1: grapples with their plans for NASA. What's exciting about it

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Speaker 1: is it's a new way of doing business. You know,

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Speaker 1: SpaceX has grown much doing part because of their partnership

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Speaker 1: with NASA. One of the things we worked on, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the in the Obama administration, was partnering NASA with

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Speaker 1: these private companies basically to get more bang for the

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Speaker 1: taxpayer buck. Uh. And that's what we're seeing with SpaceX,

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Speaker 1: with other companies like Boeing, Jeff Bezos, is Blue Origin, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Virgin Glack take with Richard Branson. You know,

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Speaker 1: the private sector is awesome at taking the ball and

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Speaker 1: running with it and innovating and and doing things you know,

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Speaker 1: faster and better, uh and more cost effectively. And so

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Speaker 1: that's that's what this announcement kind of you know shows

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Speaker 1: ABC News reporting that SpaceX might fly to paying customers

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Speaker 1: to the Moon next year. Yeah, that's right. That's the

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Speaker 1: announcement is the goal is to launch to privately paying

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Speaker 1: customers on a privately funded rocket in space. Do we

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Speaker 1: know what that will cost? By the way, is that publicized?

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Speaker 1: It's it's not publicized, you know, Ellen, I think talked

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Speaker 1: about um, you know that two folks aren't ready to

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Speaker 1: talk about who's going they're gonna start training soon. I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing it's very expensive and what kind of training is involved? Well,

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Speaker 1: you'll have to you know, you're gonna be in a

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Speaker 1: and basically an suv size spacecraft for five to ten

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Speaker 1: days as you swing around the Moon. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: like the Apollo eight mission that happened in in nineteen eight.

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Speaker 1: You're basically launching traversing you know, three or four days

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Speaker 1: swinging around the Moon coming back. And if you look

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Speaker 1: at the launch prices on SpaceX's website, you know, a

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Speaker 1: launch of a Falcon Heavy rocket, which is the big

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Speaker 1: version of their Falcon nine that will be used for

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Speaker 1: this mission, is about ninety you know, dred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Add on to that the cost of the spacecraft I

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Speaker 1: think you're looking at, you know, about a hundred million,

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Speaker 1: hundred fifty million dollars per seat. Wow, that is that

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Speaker 1: is an expensive ticket for sure. Okay, so they might

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Speaker 1: get people as soon as next year up to the Moon.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will you probably deal

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Speaker 1: with this question and you deal with in your former

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Speaker 1: capacity as a White House advisor on on space travel. Um,

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Speaker 1: what do we get out of this? I mean, we

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Speaker 1: talked about NASA and federal funding for the space program.

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Speaker 1: It obviously was a huge accomplishment, as you put it out.

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Speaker 1: We've been to the Moon numerous times, We've got rovers

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Speaker 1: going to Mars. People are talking about having long term

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Speaker 1: colonies on Mars or at least some sort of space

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Speaker 1: station where people could live often off in the future.

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Speaker 1: What do we get from all of this? I mean,

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Speaker 1: should we be spending billions and billions of dollars on

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Speaker 1: space traveler should we leave it all the private sector?

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Speaker 1: I think it's the common it's a combination of both.

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Speaker 1: I think we definitely need to spend taxpayer money on

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Speaker 1: something that other countries are doing, including you know, Russia

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Speaker 1: and China and others, and that's you know, NASA was

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Speaker 1: born out of the Cold War and it was definitely

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Speaker 1: a race to the Moon to show we could do it.

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Speaker 1: But it was because we wanted to show we have

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Speaker 1: the technological capabilities that no other nation had, and so

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Speaker 1: I think it's still for surely in the nation's strategic

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Speaker 1: interests to have great skills and capabilities and flexibility in space.

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Speaker 1: You know, you and I and everybody listening are so

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Speaker 1: dependent upon space today and we don't even know it.

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Speaker 1: You know, communications satellites, environmental weather satellite also national security

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Speaker 1: assets in space. So I think it's critical that we

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Speaker 1: continue to do stuff in space. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: there's economic benefits. If you like jobs like hot attracting

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Speaker 1: high quality, good pain jobs in the United States, you

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Speaker 1: should care about space and aerospace and technological uh, you

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Speaker 1: know jobs, And that's what this that's what the space

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Speaker 1: program does. And you know, now we're in this new

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Speaker 1: era where like NASA can act as kind of a

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Speaker 1: venture capitalist to not spend as much money maybe as

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Speaker 1: they did before on building and owning rockets and space

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Speaker 1: shuttles themselves, but really seating private industry to do that,

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Speaker 1: and then you're getting more bang for the buck you

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Speaker 1: expand your capabilities in space. How far are we from

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Speaker 1: from something like the movie The Martian with Matt Damon

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Speaker 1: where you can live for at least a time on Mars.

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Speaker 1: How many years out is that I'd say it's it's

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Speaker 1: definitely within our lifetime. Let's say, you know, fifty years

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Speaker 1: is not a stretch to say that's possible and that

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Speaker 1: and it will will be a combination of commercial, government

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Speaker 1: and I think international partners to do that favorite space

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Speaker 1: movie all time, Phil, is what it's gotta be. Independence

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Speaker 1: Day is not wow okay that just you know, the

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Speaker 1: crew here is cheering you. Independence Day. Okay, the first

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Speaker 1: one obviously not the second one. I don't think anyone

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Speaker 1: saw the second one. The second one was okay, just okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, fair enough. Phil Larsons was a Senior Advisor

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Speaker 1: for Space and Innovation at the White House. He is

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Speaker 1: at Philip Larson on Twitter. U, Phil, appreciate you joining

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Speaker 1: a teacher a bit about space. Thanks for calling in

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Speaker 1: my pleasure. Buck. Thanks alright, team Buck, gett a hit

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Speaker 1: a break, take your calls on the flip side, and

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Speaker 1: talk about a whole lot more. Stay with me to

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Speaker 1: get a little worried about these Republicans and the Obamacare repeal.

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Speaker 1: It's funny the second I say this to you, I

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Speaker 1: see on the monitors Rand Paul popping up on Fox News.

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Speaker 1: But he's making some very worthwhile points in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of days on this Why is this not, first

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Speaker 1: of all, already happening. They're working out the details. What

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Speaker 1: have we been paying these Republicans in the House and

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Speaker 1: the Senate to do for the last oh four or

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Speaker 1: five years or so? What is going on here? And

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Speaker 1: Rand Paul, Senator Ran Paul is asking that very question. Clip.

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Speaker 1: We did compromise about a year ago. We all came

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Speaker 1: together and we voted for about as complete a repeal

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Speaker 1: as you can kind of get under those rules that

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Speaker 1: we have to deal with. So we were unified. Every

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Speaker 1: and I think a Republican of the House voted for it.

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Speaker 1: So the simple way to get this done, we can

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Speaker 1: get this done today. And I've told the President this,

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Speaker 1: I've told the Vice President this, I've told everybody at

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Speaker 1: the White House this. You want to get it done.

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Speaker 1: Vote on what we've already voted on, and vote on

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Speaker 1: replacements separately, and we can have a debate over what

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Speaker 1: goes into replacement. But the thing is repeal needs to

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Speaker 1: be complete repeal, because if you do partial repeal, I

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Speaker 1: think the situation gets worse. Why did they vote. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's just take a step back here for a second.

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Speaker 1: This is healthcare. This matters to all of us. Why

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Speaker 1: did they vote on repeal? And now we're being told,

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Speaker 1: well that that was just that was just for show.

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Speaker 1: They weren't serious. It wasn't well, this is if we

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Speaker 1: could get this through today, we would do it. They

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Speaker 1: voted for repeal, they knew it couldn't get through, and

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Speaker 1: now they have an opportunity to get it through and

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Speaker 1: they're saying, well, hold hold on, now we've got it.

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Speaker 1: Now we've got to take this seriously. Uh, not good, everybody.

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Speaker 1: This this is not confidence inspiring about this Republican Congress.

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Speaker 1: And they, you know, it's like a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: we've seen in recent years where Republicans are, you know,

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Speaker 1: whether it's you know, telling us that they're going to

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Speaker 1: repeal Obamacare, they're gonna cracked down an immigration, they say

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Speaker 1: these things that appeal to the base. Obamacare has been

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Speaker 1: a huge one though. And you know, you got remember

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Speaker 1: years ago, John McCain build a dang fence. Uh, I

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Speaker 1: don't think he'd be talking about building the dang fence now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's what he's I don't think that's

852
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: his position, but he was trying to win, so that

853
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: was the ad he was running back in two thousand

854
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: and eight. I know he was a senator running for president.

855
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: But these senators who are running for senate, they play games.

856
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: They realize what's popular with the base, and so they

857
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: say it to get elected. Now they're in a place

858
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: where they can actually do something, and we're getting a

859
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: lot of like, or are you are I don't all.

860
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure her. I don't know about that. You're like, wait,

861
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: hold on a second, what do you mean you know? Yeah,

862
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: well it's really complicated, you know, it's all of moving pieces.

863
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: It's complicated. I thought you guys have been working out

864
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: these complicated moving pieces for years now. So if they've

865
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: been running on repeal, heel shouldn't be that hard. Replaced

866
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: maybe more difficult, but they can repeat. They could sign it,

867
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: and they could sign in or the present signs and obviously,

868
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: but they could pass a repeal that is phased over

869
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: time and then put the replacement in. But this is

870
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: not There's something not right here um and and it's

871
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: tough for me to put my finger on exactly what

872
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: it is because they're hiding this thing, ran Paul. This

873
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: is reported up on CNN. Senator Paul was running around

874
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: the Capitol building saying, quote, this should be an open

875
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: and transparent process about about the Obamacare bill. This is

876
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: being presented as if it were a national secret, as

877
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: if it were the plot to invade another country, as

878
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: if this were national security. That's wrong. Um, So he

879
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: is demanding, he's been demanding to see the Obamacare repeal bill,

880
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: and I can understand why he would want to, and

881
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: especially senators who have been making a big case about

882
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: this for a long time. Now, they're gonna look really

883
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: silly if all of a sudden we're being told, well,

884
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: we're just repealing parts of it. That was not the promise.

885
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't repeal a little bit and then replace one day,

886
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: and then maybe repeal a little more and then replace

887
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: a little more. It was repeal and replace. Make it

888
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: as if Obamacare never existed. That's what we were told. Now,

889
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: as part of repeal, maybe they expand or rather they

890
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: keep the Medicaid expansions in place. But as we talked

891
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: to o vic Roy about last night, that's just a

892
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: political concession. That's you don't want to take away, or

893
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: people that are running for office in certain states don't

894
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: want to take away what it's just an expansion of

895
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: a welfare program because of the votes that they will

896
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: likely lose. That's what that is that has that's nothing

897
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: to do with Oh, repeal in a place is so complicated. Well,

898
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: it's complicated depending on what your goal is. If your

899
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: goal is to just get rid of this law, this

900
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: multiple thousand pages of law, whatever the final tally ended

901
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: up being, I and then come up with a new

902
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: healthcare for you know, I read a I think it

903
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: was a Washington Post reporter in a a snarky little

904
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: exchange out there for the world to see, saying that, well,

905
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, the states already there already is interstate competition

906
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: between the states. It's allowed under Obamacare. And and I

907
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: read into this, and I read the relevant sections of

908
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: the of the bill because I was like, a hold

909
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: on a second, well, what is this out of How

910
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: is that supposed to work? Uh? And the way that

911
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: works is that states could theoretically allow you to buy

912
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: like New York State could allow you to buy insurance

913
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: from Texas, but no state has yet done that. And

914
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: that's in part because the states all set their own

915
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: baseline of what has to be covered, and they're not

916
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: doing it. But the purpose of allowing interstate competition for

917
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: healthcare purchases is not so that states can work with

918
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: each other and so that people can just buy what

919
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: they want to buy. And if states have to allow,

920
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: how you to do that and make agreements with other states?

921
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: That is not interesting. That is not interstate commerce. That

922
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: is state to state commerce. That that's not the individual

923
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: being in charge of where the dollars go. So there's

924
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: a lot of misinformation out there about what the bill

925
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: currently is and what the realities of it are. And

926
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Speaker 1: I thought the most interesting part of our discussion last

927
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: night on Obamacare was that if you reform the individual

928
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: market and make it see right now, the way it's

929
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: set up is it the individual market is the forgotten

930
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: step child of the healthcare market because everyone's so used

931
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: to getting it because the tax benefits through their employer.

932
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: That's how most of us get our insurance. But then

933
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: when you lose your job or you have a gap

934
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: in coverage and then your prexisting conditions, big problems can

935
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: result from this, and so the individual market, you have

936
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: very few options they're overpriced and bad plans. They're also

937
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: not subsidized as your employer provided plan would be, and

938
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: the tax treatment is different. But if you were to

939
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: make and I was thinking about this as we're telling

940
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: talking about it last night with Oi vic Roy, if

941
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: you were to make the individual market really competitive and

942
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: solid and good, and you could just read the same

943
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: way that those you have home insurance or renters insurance

944
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: or car insurance, any of that. You look at your contract,

945
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: what's covered, what's not, what do you pay, and that's it.

946
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: As you limited all these games. You know right now

947
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: the system is intentionally opaque because insurers are constantly trying

948
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: to find ways to protect their bottom line. People all

949
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: want to believe someone else is going to pay for

950
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: their health care, and it's just as it's just this

951
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: big merry go round of cost shifting. If you were

952
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: able to buy a plan that was a good plan

953
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: that covered you and that you didn't have to worry

954
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: when you went on to your next job, or if

955
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: you went through a period of unemployment because you knew

956
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: what your plan was, you could budget for your expenses,

957
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: you had an understanding of what you're in and you

958
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: had access to doctors that you wanted to see. This

959
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: would make everything better. Maybe you want to keep your

960
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: insured provided or your employer provided plan. Maybe you don't.

961
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you decide you're going to become one of those

962
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: people that's in a much better, much more competitive individual

963
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: healthcare marketplace. Right now, the healthcare in the individual marketplace

964
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: is small and bad. And if you have Obamacare, maybe

965
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: if you had nothing before, maybe you think this is good.

966
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: But if you are somebody who now has to buy

967
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: insurance who didn't want to buy it before, you are

968
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: most likely very unhappy because you're paying a lot of

969
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: money for very narrow networks and substandard care, and you're

970
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: stuck because the government's saying you have to buy. You

971
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: don't even have a choice. Let stay Kendall in Virginia

972
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: on w p T I Candall, thanks for calling in.

973
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: Hey buck up, I like the show. I appreciate all

974
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: you've been owning and enlightening people. UM, thank you, sir.

975
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get I just wanted to go

976
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: only in on this before Obamacare. UM. I work in Carolina.

977
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: Before Obamacare here, UM, I had group insurance to my

978
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: employer and for family coverage, I paid about one sixty

979
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: a week, which seemed high, but I had good insurance.

980
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: But since Obamacare UM last year, I got fine because

981
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have all my kids covered on the insurance,

982
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: so I added them this year. And I'm a single parent.

983
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: My insurance when I added the kids went from one

984
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: fifty a week on myself and I had the kids.

985
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: I now pay five hundred a week insurance eight hundred

986
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: all deductible before they'll pay a co pay or anything,

987
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: medicine or anything. And you're you're paying, You're paying two

988
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. You're paying two thousand dollars a month kendall,

989
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: and you have an eighteen hundred dollar deductible on top

990
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: of that before you start to see any benefits from

991
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: this this plan. And this is an Obamacare plan. No,

992
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: this is a group okay, which my employer is a

993
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: big company and works in over a hundred fifty countries

994
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: in the world. It's a big company. So you think

995
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: you have, you know, pretty good group insurance. But my sister,

996
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: she got an Obamacare policy this year, and I don't

997
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: know which one it is, but she's paying uh less.

998
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: She pays um somewhere around a week or somewhere around

999
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: every but she has a sixty nine hundle dollar deductible

1000
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: before anything is paid on hers, So I'm just wondering.

1001
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: They keep talking about all these people that had gotten

1002
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: insurance that couldn't get it before, and how it's helping everybody,

1003
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: But between me barely making it because I have pile

1004
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: dollar the insurance a week and her having insurance, she's

1005
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: paying four that she pretty much cannot use, I don't

1006
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: see how who is it benefiting benefit? But I can

1007
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: tell you Kendall it be, and I totally understand your frustrations,

1008
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: and and it's it's very uh, it's very difficult when

1009
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: when there's these costs keep going up all the time

1010
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: and you're getting less and less care for the money

1011
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: you're paying, because you know, access coverage is not the

1012
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: same as care, which is very important to keep in mind.

1013
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: The people who are benefiting from Obamacare are either those

1014
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: who are part of the Medicaid expansion, which just means

1015
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: that they are now covered under what is a it's

1016
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: health care welfare, or those who are able to get

1017
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: a plan now who weren't before because of the pre

1018
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: existing conditions clause was removed, and they are either very

1019
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: sick or got very sick and their catastrophic coverage kicked in.

1020
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: But for people that are reasonably healthy and that have

1021
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: been paying their own healthcare bills and that are in

1022
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: the individual market to disaster, and that's and that's going

1023
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: to be what it is for everybody else to when

1024
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: it expands beyond the individual market. Candall in Virginia Shields,

1025
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: I thank you for a calling in sharing your story.

1026
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So team. We got another Freestyle Friday

1027
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: guests coming up here. It's going to be a bit

1028
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: of a surprise surprise if you want to call in

1029
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: eight four four nine to eight to five, eight four

1030
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: four nine hundred buck background. After this break, Buck is back.

1031
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: Everybody bucks back. It's more of America. Now throw in

1032
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: your two cents one eight four four nine hundred buck.

1033
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: That's one eight four four nine hundred to eight to five.

1034
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: Today is World Wildlife Day, everybody, and well, I'd love

1035
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: to sit here and talk to you about how my

1036
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: favorite animal at the zoo in d C was not,

1037
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: in fact the panda, but I was more of a

1038
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: pygmy hippo guy. I always thought the pygmy hippo was

1039
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: the coolest I want to talk to you about an

1040
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: article that I saw earlier in the week about the

1041
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: quote terrifying prognant prognosis for life on Earth, so that

1042
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: half of all animals on Earth will be ext by

1043
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: the end of the century. Is this alarmist or are

1044
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: we actually heading for major species die off? We are

1045
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: joined by somebody who can answer that question for us

1046
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: in detail, Dr Tony Varnowski. He's the executive director of

1047
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: Stanford University's Jasper Ridge Biological Preserve and he's the author

1048
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: of Dodging Extinction, Power, Food, Money, and the Future of

1049
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: Life on Earth. Dr Barnowski, thank you for calling in. Yeah,

1050
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: my pleasure. Thank you for having me. All right, So

1051
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: this article says half of all animals on Earth will

1052
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: be extinct by the end of the century. One in

1053
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: five are already at risk. Is that at the more

1054
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: alarming end of the spectrum? Or is that really where

1055
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: we're heading? That is really where we're heading, and it's

1056
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: very alarming. We actually know that of the world's wildlife

1057
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: has already disappeared in the last forty years, and if

1058
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: we keep up that pace, that is where the number

1059
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: that you head comes from. I've heard that I've read,

1060
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: I should say that that if you were to look

1061
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: though at all species throughout our planets existence, that the

1062
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: current number of species is a tiny fraction of all

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Speaker 1: that have existed in the past. People try to say

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Speaker 1: that there are species that are still being discovered. Uh,

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Speaker 1: is something remarkably different. I mean, I'm assuming this is

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Speaker 1: going to be where I hear about how human beings

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Speaker 1: habitat loss. Is that what's called hunting over fishing? What's

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Speaker 1: causing this? Yeah, So if we compare the rates of

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00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: extinction going on now to what the normal birth death

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Speaker 1: rate of species is, it's about fifty two times too fast.

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Speaker 1: And extinction rates haven't been that fast since the dinosaurs

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Speaker 1: went extinct. And what's causing it is exactly what you said.

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Speaker 1: We've converted fifty or more of the planet's land for

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Speaker 1: our use rather than for other species. We've been um

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Speaker 1: poaching elephants, rhinos, big cats, and so on for monetary gain, UM,

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01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: international markets for illegal wildlife trade. Um. And then the

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Speaker 1: third thing going on is climate change, which is at

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01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: a pace into a place where living species today have

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Speaker 1: never never witnessed. And you wrote a book also called

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Speaker 1: Tipping Point for Planet Earth how close are we to

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Speaker 1: the edge? Is that? What? What's what is the thesis

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Speaker 1: that I just see that here in your on your bio.

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Speaker 1: What is the what is the tipping point? What are

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Speaker 1: we approaching? Yeah? So, so the tipping point we're writing

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Speaker 1: about in that Part of it had to do with

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Speaker 1: the uh, the harm we're doing to Earth's natural resources

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Speaker 1: that we depend upon. Part of it had to do

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Speaker 1: with the way societies operate today. And sort of the

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01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: bottom line of that book is if we keep thinking,

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01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: keep doing things exactly as we have in the past,

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Speaker 1: the things that we don't like on the planet are

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Speaker 1: going to get much more frequent, i e. Conflicts, migration, crisis,

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Speaker 1: loss of speech, these Uh. If we take a step

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Speaker 1: back and say, um, while these things really are on

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01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: the horizon, this plan for the future, we can actually

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Speaker 1: make a very nice world. Is this a rallying cry

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Speaker 1: then for sustainability? What? What is the what are the

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Speaker 1: answers then? I mean you're telling me that half of

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Speaker 1: your you agree that half of all animals on Earth

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Speaker 1: by the end of this century, which is not that

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Speaker 1: far away, could be extinct. We do what if we

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Speaker 1: want to turn that around? I mean, aren't there some

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Speaker 1: examples of conservation efforts. You mentioned specifically some large, large

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Speaker 1: animals in Africa that have been poached almost out of existence.

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Speaker 1: But haven't they done a pretty good job of bringing

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Speaker 1: some of them back? And there there is hope here.

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Speaker 1: I would think that there absolutely is hoping. And the

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Speaker 1: key caveat as I said, if we keep doing things

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Speaker 1: exactly as we have now. Now, when we say half

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Speaker 1: the animals on Earth will be gone in the next

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Speaker 1: fifty years or or so, we don't mean that half

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Speaker 1: the species on Earth will be dead. We mean that

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Speaker 1: the uh numbers of individuals within those species will be

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Speaker 1: cut by half. Again, compete over and above the half

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01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: that's already been cut, and you can see if you

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01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: keep going into the future cutting half every fifty years,

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: it's not very long before you do see a lot

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Speaker 1: of extinctions. So the point is, most of the species

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Speaker 1: we want to save are still out here on the

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Speaker 1: planet um. In order to save them, we have to

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Speaker 1: think about nature in a different way, and we have

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Speaker 1: to use the planet in a different way than we have,

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Speaker 1: which is a percent possible to do. I can give

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Speaker 1: you three things that would help a lot. Sure, give

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Speaker 1: me the three sure, So so So the first thing

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Speaker 1: is we've got seven point four billion people on the planet.

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Speaker 1: Now we know we're going to have a minimum of

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Speaker 1: uh excuse me on that, We're going to have a

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Speaker 1: minimum of about nine to ten billion by fifty by

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Speaker 1: any demographic projection. So that's the reality we have to

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Speaker 1: deal with. UM. If we shoot much past that point,

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01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: then things really are dire and we can look at

1133
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: the sixth mass extinction UM. So UH solving that population

1134
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: growth problem, which actually comes down to something that's very

1135
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: good economically and boils down to providing educational opportunities for

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01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: particularly for women in parts of the world where they

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01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: don't have them. Second thing, treating treating nature right now

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01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: as this inexhaustible UM checking account. So that's why we

1139
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: have over exploitation of elephants, rhinos, so on illegal wildlife trade. UM.

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01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: There are policies we can put in place that will

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01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: treat nature more as a long term investment account where

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01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: we're living off the interest. And then the third thing

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Speaker 1: is mitigating climate change is really really important because UH

1144
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: species are just getting crunched out of existence because they're

1145
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: the climate that they are adapted to live in its disappearing.

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01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: But wouldn't that wouldn't some species be better off if

1147
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean if it gets warmer in some places or

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01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: colder in some places. Don't animals have different preferences for

1149
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: why would that necessarily affect them? Yeah, so that's a

1150
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: very good point. And uh, we know that what's happened

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Speaker 1: in the past when climate has changed, although it hasn't

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01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: changed this fast or to the place it's going. Um,

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01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: but we know when we have seen climate change in

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01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: the past that animals adapt primarily by moving around. They

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Speaker 1: can't do that now because, as I said, we have

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Speaker 1: turned fifty of the planet into human dominated landscapes. So

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Speaker 1: you know, if they try to move from point A

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01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: to point B, even if they can move that fast,

1159
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: a city gets in the way. Dr Tony Bernofsky is

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Speaker 1: executive director of Stanford University's Jasper Ridge Biological Preserve. He's

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01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: also an author. You can check out his books up

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01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: on Amazon and doctor appreciate you're calling in okay, very much,

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01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: appreciate the conversation. Thank you, sir. Uh. Team phone lines

1164
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: are open eight four to eight to five. I I

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01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: know some of you probably like he's talking about climate change.

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into cli. It's a Friday.

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01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: I want to get a climate change fight. I just

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Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't you know, and you

1169
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: know it's just not you know, the doctor is gonna

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01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: say I'm a scientist, you're not. I'm gonna say, yeah,

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01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: but you guys are always wrong with your climate change predictions,

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01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: and things will get contentious. And also on the species

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Speaker 1: die off issue, I want to say, well, you know,

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01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: we're a tiny fraction, a tiny tiny fraction of species

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Speaker 1: that have ever existed exists right now, so you know

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01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: what what does that mean? And but I'm really more

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Speaker 1: on the climate change issue. I don't understand. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so if you have, well I'm not gonna I'm not

1179
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna argue with the air now. But anyway, I invite

1180
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: guests on here, I try to be polite to them.

1181
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: When you have an expertise, you're not a political commentator.

1182
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: You're given a wider berth on this show than when

1183
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: you're just somebody you're spouting off. But some times I'll

1184
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Speaker 1: fight with people that are called doctor too. I just

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: it's Friday and it's World Wildlife Day, everybody, I want

1186
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: to talk about saving the pandas and stuff. Um, there

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Speaker 1: are some examples. By the way, I believe I think

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Speaker 1: it's black rhinos. I've made a tremendous comeback. Um black

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Speaker 1: rhinos are I think it's a black I forget it

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Speaker 1: might be the white rhino. I don't know, it's one

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Speaker 1: of the rhinos. And actually hunting has played a large

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Speaker 1: role in it. License hunting because the uh, the people

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Speaker 1: that actually are paying for those hunts, that then pays

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01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: for the preserves for the rest of the animals and

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01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: very expensive to get it. And then then you get

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Speaker 1: into the whole thing if you're hunting big game, and

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Speaker 1: I know that becomes uh, that becomes a big virtue

1198
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Speaker 1: signaling issue, very contentious. So there are success stories with

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Speaker 1: conservation around the world, and uh, I would want to

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Speaker 1: know more. We're gonna mitigate climate I don't know, mitigate

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Speaker 1: climate change because all the animals are dying. I mean, well,

1202
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Speaker 1: if the if the ice caps are melting and there's

1203
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Speaker 1: more water, isn't that good for the fish? Not to

1204
01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 1: be that guy, but it just strikes me that that's possible. Um. Now,

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Speaker 1: I know that there are some problems that you've got

1206
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,959
Speaker 1: the Patagonian toothfish, for example, which many of you would

1207
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: be familiar with as Chilean sea bass, but it's originally

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Speaker 1: called Patagonian toothfish. It's say fish found in the southern Ocean,

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Speaker 1: and it is a species of cod. Uh. That's I

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Speaker 1: think it's now a billion dollars or it has been

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Speaker 1: as much as a billion dollar fishing industry, And a

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Speaker 1: huge part of it is that in fancy restaurants, nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to order Patagonian toothfish, but Chilean sea bass sounds

1214
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Speaker 1: quite fancy, so people will order that. Just that little

1215
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: name change, big switch in how much people want to

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Speaker 1: eat it. But if you ever see a monk fish,

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01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: I feel like you'll probably never want to eat monkfish again.

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Speaker 1: Monkfish is quite tasty too. Monkfishes look scary. It looks scary. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But Patagonian toothfish has been over for whatever. Chilean sea bass,

1220
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Speaker 1: if you want to be that guy, has been over fished,

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Speaker 1: and now they're saying there's far fewer of them to get,

1222
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: so you know, you can definitely make it. You know,

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Speaker 1: the dodo bird, we can sit here. You can make

1224
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: species go away entire early if you go after them

1225
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: too much. But if you're a small flightless bird that

1226
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: tastes good. You know, Darwin, I mean tough, tough things

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01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: happened in the world. Uh gotta hit. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Peter got upset. I saw this because they used live

1229
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Speaker 1: penguins for an ad recently. I just think it's amazing.

1230
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: They weren't like mean to the penguins. They just used penguins.

1231
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: And Peter doesn't like that. But Peter is a little crazy.

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Speaker 1: Phone lines are open if you have any thoughts either

1233
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: about these sessions or Pence witch hunts, or even any

1234
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: of our guests so far day in the program. We're

1235
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Speaker 1: wide open here, team. We're gonna hit a break and

1236
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Speaker 1: we'll be right back. We got calls flying in left

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Speaker 1: and right. Let's take them cause on w p T I,

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Speaker 1: what's up cause, hey Buck, one listener here enjoying your show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, sir Shield tie um. I just

1240
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Speaker 1: a curious question. Why don't the Republicans go on the offense.

1241
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: They're just sitting there waiting for the Democrats to charge

1242
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: him with some name charge left and right? Why don't

1243
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: they invite the are set up across the special prosecutor

1244
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: to look into the Clinton crime syndicate? Uh? Fund or

1245
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: whatever it was, or you know, I'll say this cause

1246
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this because I mentioned this last night.

1247
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Speaker 1: The Obama administration was obviously concerned about wanting to leave

1248
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: behind information they thought would be damaging about the incoming

1249
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: Trump administration. So it stands to reason they also would

1250
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: want to do what they could to hide and uh

1251
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: possibly destroy any information left over that would be useful

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: for the Trump administration if they wanted to enforce some

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: accountability with the Obama administration. That's just a thought. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't have any specifics on that, but it is

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01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: it has been crossing my mind recently. Usually administrations don't

1256
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: want to go back and relitigate the previous administ ration

1257
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. We don't want this to turn into

1258
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: one of those third world countries where nobody ever wants

1259
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: to give up power because when you do, you know

1260
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: you and your whole family end up going to prison,

1261
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: and and that that just raises the stakes all around.

1262
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: But by the same token, that's already that seems to

1263
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: be happening, or it has happened with the Obama administration

1264
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: trying to make things so difficult for the incoming Trump

1265
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: administration so I don't have an answer to you is

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01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 1: why they don't go on offense. But I agree with

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01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: you that that would be another way that they could

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Speaker 1: approach this, because this is this is a siege against

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01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: this White House. This is uh, this is an all

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Speaker 1: hands on deck situation, or at least open a probe

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Speaker 1: into who made the Leak's an official investigation. I think

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Speaker 1: they are doing that. I think they are doing that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the FBI. But the problem is that the

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Speaker 1: people who have access to t s at the top

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Speaker 1: secret information are generally unless theyre Hillary Clinton, and I

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01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: think the rules don't apply generally, not so stupid that

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Speaker 1: they leave a trail of their leaks. So and think

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Speaker 1: about it this way. If it's a phone convert if

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Speaker 1: it's a phone converse station between a former White House

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Speaker 1: employee and member of the media saying, look, we got

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Speaker 1: Flynn on tape. This is what he said. Unless somebody

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Speaker 1: made a recording of that it, you can't prove anything, right,

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Speaker 1: So it's lead investigations are not easy. Well, all right,

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Speaker 1: I understand the political consequences of pursuing a former candidate

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Speaker 1: or political person. What then if the Trump administration simply

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Speaker 1: speeds up there, um like the travel band or they.

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Speaker 1: I definitely think they should resend that presidential order that

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Speaker 1: allowed the information to be spread amongst all the departments

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Speaker 1: or other agencies. I just think they they're sitting back

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Speaker 1: waiting and taking it. I just like to see him

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Speaker 1: get more offensive. Well you know Trump, Yeah, Trump. Trump

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Speaker 1: is definitely willing to be offensive. He's will to go

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Speaker 1: on offense. So I think that it's just a question of,

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Speaker 1: you know, if he spends all his time fighting against

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Speaker 1: the media, nothing's ever gonna get done right, So there's

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Speaker 1: there's gotta be a balance struck here. I'm hoping that

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Speaker 1: there'll be some policy initiatives that are enacted in the

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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks that will breathe a little other

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Speaker 1: We'll we'll put a little wind in the sales of

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Speaker 1: the administration. But again, we'll we'll have to see. But

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Speaker 1: cost Thanks for calling him, man, I appreciate it. Matt

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Speaker 1: in Alabama, w d a K. What's up, Matt? Hey,

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Speaker 1: how's it going good? Good? Thanks? Matt? What's up? School

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01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: coach basics video some of the healthcare stuff and and

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01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: why it's so important to Americans and people that actually

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: understand I'm a self employed person. Uh why went part

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01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 1: time where you were dropped? Group went to individual plans

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01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: and like you said, it is a train wreck. Uh

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01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: started out right before they passed the Affordable Health Care Act,

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Speaker 1: and we had our own instruments in individual Alabama Blue Rowlson,

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Speaker 1: Blue Shield, and UH had their best plan pay poor

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Speaker 1: sixty four for wife a child, myself dental helped the

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Speaker 1: whole nine yards. Great, great plan for an individual at

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Speaker 1: that time. We lost that through the process of quadrupled UH.

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Speaker 1: Deductibles Uh quadrupled UH premiums Uh. Just the host of

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Speaker 1: stuff Uh, cope is going up double uh, specialists going

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Speaker 1: up triple. Uh. Told we had the loser doctor in

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Speaker 1: Georgia had come to Alabama because it was an Alabama plan. Man,

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Speaker 1: did this get worse after after the passage of Obamacare

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Speaker 1: or is this just cumulative over many years? As absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I mean it just it progressively got worse, two increases

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01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: every year, waiting to get letters from our insurance carriers.

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Speaker 1: You know, drop this because they sent out over thirty

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Speaker 1: thousand letters across the people of Alabama, and drop those plans.

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Speaker 1: And this is how to expects people like me that

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Speaker 1: ourselves in void that try to do the right thing,

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Speaker 1: provide their own health insurance and not live off of

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Speaker 1: the system. That is, you know, right, So you're one

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01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: of them, Matt, You're you're one of the people that

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01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: is getting the short end of the stick here, right

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01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: because you're working and trying to pay your bills and

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Speaker 1: trying to do this the right way. People have asked

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Speaker 1: me just before, even on this show, who benefits from this? Well,

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Speaker 1: if you're completely if you are a fall within the

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Speaker 1: guidelines for Medicaid, meaning you make below a certain income,

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Speaker 1: I forget what it is, it's some percentage of the

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Speaker 1: poverty line, then you're on a welfare program for your healthcare,

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Speaker 1: and sure if Obamacare gives that to you, people tend

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01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: to say, well, I've got something for free, which is good.

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Speaker 1: And if you're at the lower end of the scale

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Speaker 1: and you're getting subsidized care, maybe you think that's better too,

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Speaker 1: if you just barely are in the exchanges. But for

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Speaker 1: most people like you who are self employed, I'm sorry, Mac,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, We've only got about a minute, though, Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Who pays for the subsidies? That's what people do on

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Speaker 1: you do you do? That's the point you you, as

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01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: somebody in that marketplace, you are absidizing other people who

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Speaker 1: are not paying full freight, and you're getting less care,

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01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: and your family is getting less care, and you're paying

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01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: more money for it because you are subsidizing. And in fact,

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Speaker 1: that is what it's going on. That's why, well how

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01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: how do people see that that's not gonna bankrupt this country?

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01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: Well that's why we hopefully they're gonna repeal and replace

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01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: this thing, right, But I agree with you that this

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01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 1: is it's gonna get bad. But mattch she'll tie. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for calling in. Wow already third hours here, Freestyle Friday,

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01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: so much fun. It goes by so fast. Um eight four,

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Speaker 1: eight to five, some spots are opening the lines back

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Speaker 1: in a minute, Buck sexty with America now where there

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01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: is always something to talk about, where you can trade

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Speaker 1: opinions with Buck. I'm not sure you'll win, though, Just

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Speaker 1: call eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four

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Speaker 1: four nine hundred two eight to five. Alright, Buck, you're on.

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Speaker 1: It is fascinating to watch the media try to re

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01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: abilitate their treatment of their former treatment of George W. Bush.

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Speaker 1: He was on The Ellen Show, which I do not watch.

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Speaker 1: I do not have cable, so I do not watch

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Speaker 1: these daytime cable shows like Ellen and Oprah. I guess

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Speaker 1: she's not on anymore. I don't know, or she's on

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Speaker 1: a different channel. But Ellen had Bush on, and of

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Speaker 1: course they I mean she she started out by saying

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Speaker 1: that she doesn't want to make this political. And anytime

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Speaker 1: somebody who's on TV says I don't want to make

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01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: this political, you can bet that there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a very political statement that follows that. And she was

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01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: talking to Bush about Trump and the press, and this

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Speaker 1: is what George W. H said, play sixty seven. Please

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Speaker 1: obviously the media was not, you know, great to you.

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01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: They're not great to most presidents. The media is tough,

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Speaker 1: you expect. But Trump is raging an outright just a

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Speaker 1: war against all press and not allowing press to do

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Speaker 1: their job, which I think is a very dangerous thing.

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Speaker 1: Well here I said something the other day, and of

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Speaker 1: course the headlines were Bush criticizes Trump. Here's what I believed.

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Speaker 1: Can we pause that for one second? Pause? We just

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Speaker 1: paused it for a second. So not letting the press

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Speaker 1: do their job? How is that the case? In what way?

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Speaker 1: Has and look she's not a political analyst or elected

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Speaker 1: member of Congress or something. I get that, but she's

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Speaker 1: got a huge following. I mean, people listen to Ellen.

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Speaker 1: And this is the kind of sloppy thinking that I

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01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: do think we should push back on not allowing the

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Speaker 1: press to do their job. How I just I just

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Speaker 1: want one instance. Are we going to really talk about

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Speaker 1: the press gaggle that ABC, NBCCBS, Fox and a bunch

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Speaker 1: of others were in, but there were a couple of

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Speaker 1: news organizations that weren't. And that was that was last Friday.

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Speaker 1: Remember that was Media def Con wand oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: what are we going to do? It's terrible destroying the

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Speaker 1: First Amendment? Using the First Amendment is paper for the

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Speaker 1: floor while he trains his puppy with it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just people were freaking out about that. It wasn't

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01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: that big a deal, But here we are. I just

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01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: want an example of where the press hasn't been allowed

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01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 1: to do their job. This is that an amazing and

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01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: uh consistent occurrence on the left is that they do

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01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: things that they're going to get nothing but a claim for.

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01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 1: They take positions that are gonna make them feel good

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01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: about themselves. And that all their friends and everyone around

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01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: them and every in the media in Hollywood and everywhere

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01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: else is going to tell them they're smart for taking

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01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: and they think they're brave for doing it, and members

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01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: of the press seem to want to pad on the

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01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: back for being so anti Trump, when being anti Trump

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01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: is what people in the press for the most part

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01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: do now, and it's career enhancing and they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: big paychecks for doing it if they're in a position

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Speaker 1: to get big paychecks, and there's no there's really no

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01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: risk of them at all. But they speak about this

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Speaker 1: like the long dark night of authoritarianism is upon us,

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01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: and it's just it's just nonsense. It gets so frustrating,

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01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 1: it's so annoying, and they're they're really deluded on this issue.

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01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: But that's where we are, so anyway, So she says

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Speaker 1: that they're not letting me their job. And then Bush,

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Speaker 1: whom it is a nice guy, not a brilliant uh strategist,

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01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: but a nice guy and and a lot smarter than

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Speaker 1: the media said he was. We'll get to that in

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Speaker 1: a second. This is his response to her, which of

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Speaker 1: course now is going to be used against Trump. Here's

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Speaker 1: what he said play it. Sorry. Continuation needs a free

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01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: and independent press, and the reason why is is that

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01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 1: power can be very corrupting, and we need a press

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01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: corps to hold politicians to account, including me. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't like it sometimes when people said things that

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Speaker 1: you know about me, but you know that's the job.

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Speaker 1: I always view the relate I'm gonna drop a big

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01:19:49,640 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: word on you, uh, symbiotic relationship. Yeah yeah, yeah. Now

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Speaker 1: he's trying to he's having a nice he's having a

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01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: nice chat with Alan, and what he said, I think,

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Speaker 1: and I give a lot of respect to the former

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Speaker 1: president for not doing what we're about to see president

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Speaker 1: former President Obama do, which is jumped right into politics,

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01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: criticize his successor and just refused to allow the new

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01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: administration to get comfortable, to take root and to do

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01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: its thing. Um so so Bush deserves a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit for that. But I do think it's it's fascinating

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01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: to watch the headlines now coming out pouring out from

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Speaker 1: all these different media outlets that are suggesting that, you know,

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Speaker 1: they really just want Bush back, that they missed the

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01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: the kinder, gentler days of the Bush administration. We all

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01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: remember what that was like. I was working for the

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Speaker 1: CIA during the Bush administration, not all of it, but

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Speaker 1: a good portion of it. And they hated Bush. They

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: were calling granted, they weren't calling him Hitler, but they

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Speaker 1: might as well have been calling him Paul Pot or

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01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: something else, because they did say that he was a

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01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: war criminal. That was a common refrain. You would hear

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Speaker 1: people on the left so that Bush was a war

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Speaker 1: criminal and that he should be tried in the Hague,

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Speaker 1: and that there should be repercussions for him. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: Dick Cheney of course as well, Dick Cheney, who was

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Speaker 1: running everything from behind the scenes all for the benefit

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Speaker 1: of Halliburton. It's it's it's always a bit jarring to

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Speaker 1: me to hear the far fetched motivations the Democrats come

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Speaker 1: up with for the most insidious and evil Republican actions.

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Speaker 1: Why why would they Why would they do that? What

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Speaker 1: would the purpose of that? B Um? They don't really

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Speaker 1: ask that question. They certainly don't ask it when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Trump and Russia. Um, But they're pretending not to.

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Speaker 1: You know what, though I do. There was kind of

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Speaker 1: a funny exchange here. This is just I just want

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Speaker 1: to play with you because it was amusing where Bush

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Speaker 1: recounted what it was like when Putin met his dog,

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Speaker 1: and then he met Putin's dog. So I introduced Puttin too, Barney.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember Barney, the little Scottish terrier, the little

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Speaker 1: guy with legs, And he kind of dissed him. He

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Speaker 1: looked at him like, you think that's a dog anyway.

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Speaker 1: So a year later, a year later, Puttin says, would

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Speaker 1: you like to meet my dog? Lor and I were

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Speaker 1: with Puttin in his Dotcha outside of Moscow. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like to meet meet him. And out comes a

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Speaker 1: giant hound kind of loping across the birch Line yard

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01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: and Putin looks at me and says, bigger, stronger, and

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01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: faster than Barney. And uh, you know it speaks volumes

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Speaker 1: when you listen to what somebody says. And yeah, man,

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01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: when someone calls out your dog, that's that is no good.

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Speaker 1: That would not fly. That would not fly with my family.

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01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, people are very attached to their dogs.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm gonna say this. I'm not a

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Speaker 1: Scotty person. Just it's just not my wouldn't be my choice.

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01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: But Scotty's are fine. I don't know what kind of

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01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: hound it was that that Putin had. But but clearly

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01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: a lot of what's been said about Putin that he

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01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: is this machismo, machismo fueled cult of personality enhanced megalomaniac

1495
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: is true. I mean, that's he can't even uh I'm

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Speaker 1: not just basically on that one comment, but it seems

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01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: like the personality profile of this de facto dictator now

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01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: in Russia is pretty clear. Um. But we should also

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Speaker 1: keep in mind that under the eight years of the

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01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: Obama administration, how much how much more caving could be

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01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: done to Russian interests abroad by an administration than what

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01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 1: happened when Obama was in office. I do think that

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01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: is a fair a fair issue to to bring into

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01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: the discussion about how Trump is supposed to be so

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01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: in the pocket of the Russians. But back to back

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01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: to Bush. I know, I'm jumping around here, but it's

1507
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 1: freestyle Friday, so things are gonna happen. They are saying

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01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 1: that now they're taking this this perspective that um Bush

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01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: was not so bad and they kind of miss him,

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01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 1: and they thought that, you know, he wasn't a terrible guy.

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01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: They were years ago saying that he was a war

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01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 1: criminal though, so we should remember that. And when you

1513
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 1: have the kind of rhetoric that you're hearing these days

1514
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump, it's so overheated and so nasty and hyperbolic,

1515
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: over the line, out of bounds and just insane that

1516
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: they have to pretend that they don't do this with

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01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 1: every Republican although they pretty much do. That's what That's

1518
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: what I wanted to get to here with you. Uh.

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01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 1: They made Romney, who was as clean cut and nice

1520
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: and honest and respectable a guy as I think you'd

1521
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: find in politics, they made him seem like a monster

1522
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: that took away people's health care after he gave them

1523
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: cancer and drove around with his dog freezing on the

1524
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: roof of his car, and you know, gave somebody a

1525
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: weggy and high school or something. I mean, they just

1526
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They'll find some way to engage in character

1527
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: assassination with with the Trump though. I think I mentioned

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01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: it earlier the week in the show, and I didn't

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01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: get to and I wanted to. Now, there was a

1530
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,440
Speaker 1: Washington Post piece explicitly and it was under news analysis,

1531
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: so not opinion really. It was news analysis, which is

1532
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: this blend of actual newspaper News and Opinion, and you know,

1533
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: saying that Trump is borrowing from by exposing the crimes

1534
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:37,839
Speaker 1: committed by illegal immigrants, Trump is borrowing from the Hitler playbook.

1535
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: Explicitly says this. I mean, I'm not I'm not going

1536
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: beyond what was in the headline here at all. I'm

1537
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: not going beyond was in the piece. And this writer

1538
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: for the Washington Post goes into the details about how

1539
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 1: during the leading up to the Holocaust there was all

1540
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,560
Speaker 1: this anti Jewish propaganda put up by the Nazis, and

1541
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: they talked about the crimes committed by by Jews as

1542
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: as though it were inheritable or inherited and this was

1543
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: just a genetic feature of being one of the Jewish people.

1544
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: With the crimes committed, I mean, the most vile, untrue

1545
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: and horrific propaganda imaginable, leading to an extermination of eleven

1546
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: million people, six million of them Jews. There are serious newspapers,

1547
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: the probably the second most beloved newspaper in the country

1548
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: by liberals after the New York Times, that are comparing

1549
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: Trump listing crimes committed by illegal immigrants or telling his

1550
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: executive branch to do that to Nazi German this is

1551
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: so indefensible, intellectually sloppy, and out honestly outrageous, But it's

1552
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: becoming normalized. Trump Hitler comparisons aren't a fringe thing. There

1553
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: were Bush Hitler comparisons. There were people that were and

1554
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: actually I remember there were speeches at my school when

1555
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: I was in college, given by some professors about how

1556
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: we were descending into fascism and Nazism under the Bush administration.

1557
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 1: But that's college professors. I mean, their their their loons,

1558
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: um not all of them, and a lot of them.

1559
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: But the reality here is when you line these two

1560
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: things up, not only, of course, do you not have

1561
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: the mass extermination of a group of people in the

1562
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: most horrific circumstances imaginable at all, at all, at all. Right,

1563
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: that's that's not occurring now. But just this notion that

1564
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: Trump is borrowing from the Nazi playbook, which is now

1565
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: a talking point that self satisfied and supposedly serious journalists

1566
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 1: will spew out there. They'll say it on TV, they'll

1567
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: write it on Twitter. Oh, he's taking from the Nuther.

1568
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 1: I saw a piece of Rolling Stone about this, Not

1569
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 1: that anybody should take Rolling Stone seriously. I hope that

1570
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: uv a fraternity's moving its location to wherever the owner

1571
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 1: of rolling Stone, Jan Winner has his beach house. Um,

1572
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 1: but they wrote about in rolling Stone. Oh it's barred

1573
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: out of the Nazi playbook. Well, if listing the first

1574
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: of all, illegal immigrants are not a race, so you

1575
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: have to start there. So to say that this is

1576
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 1: inherently a racist act is to ignore that there are

1577
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 1: people who are illegal immigrants, who are legal aliens, who

1578
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: are in the country from countries all over the world.

1579
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, the FBI already gives

1580
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 1: breakdowns of crime by race. This is you can statistically,

1581
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: you can go see this online the FBI and have

1582
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: been doing this for decades. But that that, I guess

1583
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: we've just gotten used to as a way of their

1584
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: trying to look at crime data and they want to

1585
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: know what's going on, and you can go look at

1586
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: it FBI dot gov. But illegal aliens, that's that's too far.

1587
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: That's Nazism to publish those that information. Uh, And I

1588
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: just wanted to show you that. You know, now they're

1589
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, well, it's we're just saying this about Trump.

1590
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 1: We didn't do this before. That's a lie. They were

1591
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: making Bush Nazi comparisons and Bush as Hitler compared. But

1592
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: it was a little more or fringe, I will say that,

1593
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: but they were. There was bushed arrangement syndrome. That was

1594
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: a very real thing that existed for years and years

1595
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: under the Bush administration. But now with Trump it has

1596
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 1: become as as the left like to say about things normalized.

1597
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: It's not just the left progressive fringe that makes these

1598
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: Nazi comparisons. It is major newspapers. And this is really

1599
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: damaging to any political discourse that we could have. How

1600
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: can how am I supposed to take the same people

1601
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 1: that are saying that Bushes, I'm sorry that Trump will

1602
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: they said it probably then too. Trump is borrowing from

1603
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: Hitler's playbook by public by having his administration published the

1604
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: Crimes of Illegal Aliens. Those same people then turn around

1605
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: and want to tell me that I should believe them

1606
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: that there's some grand conspiracy involving the Russians, that there's

1607
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: some terrible national security vulnerability that we have been exposed

1608
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: to because of the Trump administration. And I'm and I'm

1609
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: supposed to take this on faith. They have no evidence,

1610
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 1: but I'm supposed to take this on faith? Why Why

1611
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: do I do that? Oh? Because if I don't, I

1612
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 1: must be part of the hit Larry In plot to

1613
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: destroy America that Donald Trump is running. It's just how

1614
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 1: am I supposed to take these people seriously? Well? I don't.

1615
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't. We've got Don in Delaware on w I

1616
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: l M. What's up? Don? Hey? How you don buck good?

1617
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 1: I've got a little different perceptive on this craziness was

1618
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: the Russians. I think while all this is going on,

1619
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is meant to scare

1620
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: the average person as far as this big bear coming

1621
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,560
Speaker 1: down and war and all that kind of stuff. And

1622
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: I think the Chinese and the maniac leader in North

1623
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: Korea laughing because meanwhile we were paying a little attention

1624
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: to them. They're building up their military, as is evidence

1625
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 1: of the news about China putting artificial islands out there

1626
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: with silos and building up their navy, and the Kuk

1627
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: in North Korea using gases to kill his opponents and

1628
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. So my predictions this that's

1629
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 1: somewhere down the OD. I predicted the United States of

1630
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: Russia will be allies against China and North Korea in

1631
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 1: a war. Huh. Well, it's quite a quite a prediction.

1632
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 1: By the way, the it's not just Kim Jong on

1633
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 1: ordering the execution of his half brother with VX gas

1634
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: that was in the headlines recently. Also some some senior

1635
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: North Korean officials were executed with anti aircraft guns just

1636
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: just for effect. They decided to use anti aircraft guns.

1637
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: So Kim Jong on is is a straight up, straight

1638
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: up psycho um and he has nuclear missiles, and they

1639
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 1: have chemical weapons and lots of ways of of hurting

1640
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: the international community and and hurting us. And as to

1641
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:46,879
Speaker 1: your your point about what's going to happen going forward

1642
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: with these countries, China is expanding out. I mean, China

1643
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: wants to go. China is already a regional power, wants

1644
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: to be a global power. But to do that they

1645
01:31:55,520 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 1: have to punch through the literal states that are are

1646
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 1: on its periphery that we currently use. We don't really

1647
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: say it this way, but we use as a means

1648
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: of boxing China in. So the Japanese uh are Japan

1649
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 1: rather the Philippines, South Korea, these are all states that

1650
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: we look to be a buffer against Chinese ambitions. But

1651
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 1: that's why the South China Sea is so important obviously

1652
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: also for trade, and there's a lot that there's a

1653
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of things that are happening there.

1654
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,719
Speaker 1: But by by expanding their by pushing their military footprint

1655
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 1: out onto those islands, it's just moving the goalposts a

1656
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: little further for them, and it's going to they're going

1657
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: to be bumping up into these other states, and it's

1658
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 1: it's not a conceived why the things could get really

1659
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: could get really ugly very quickly. I don't know when

1660
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 1: or how fast. But China's China's got a big military

1661
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 1: in search of some you know, nationalistic winds. That's that

1662
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,600
Speaker 1: much is for sure. And they their buffer states so

1663
01:32:56,760 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: have very little military power. Oh yeah, well I think

1664
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 1: that's man Philippines. I mean, uh, you know, we found

1665
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: out in Korea that wouldn't take long to wipe them out.

1666
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We found where in Korea, we found out

1667
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: how the Chinese can use master come over the border

1668
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 1: and whatever, so forth, so and so forth. You know,

1669
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Japan has stuff been allowed to rebuild and Philippines never

1670
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 1: have had really strong military and so there's not too

1671
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,560
Speaker 1: much of a buffer around for it is. Interally, we

1672
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 1: sell we we talked about a one China policy with Taiwan,

1673
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: and that call to the Taiwanese premier by Trump early

1674
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: on got a lot of people's attention. But we've been

1675
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 1: selling the Chinese, I mean sorry, that Taiwanese advanced missile

1676
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 1: systems to deal with Chinese aggressions. So you know, we're

1677
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 1: we're we're got a lot of stuff going on there. Dom.

1678
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta hit it into a break now.

1679
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 1: But thank you for calling in from Delaware. Um, if

1680
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,519
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1681
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Speaker 1: every one of you who does it, you are giving

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01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 1: me a high five from wherever you are. So please

1689
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 1: do me that favor and give that a shot. Uh, team,

1690
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 1: We've got another freestyle Friday guests coming up. It's going

1691
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 1: to be a surprise because we keep it spicy on

1692
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: Friday in the Freedom Hunt. Be right back We've already

1693
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: had a specialist in space travel and expert in species

1694
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 1: die off. Now it's time to talk a bit about robotics.

1695
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen the Terminator movies. Lots of other

1696
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 1: movies out there, including the I Think Pretty terrible I

1697
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: Am Robot with Will Smith. Isn't that what it's called?

1698
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 1: I Am? Yeah, there's also I Am Legender, I Robot,

1699
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 1: I Robots. Sorry, gosh, come on, old man sex and

1700
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: get it right. Um, that movie was not good, But

1701
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of movies about robots and the future

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01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 1: and what's going to happen, and it is get pretty

1703
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: interesting to see what they can do. I don't know

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01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: how many of you have already seen the video of

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01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 1: you haven't, I recommend it to you. Boston Dynamics, which

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01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: is a subsidiary of Google, put out a video of

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01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 1: a robot called Handle stands over six ft tall, can

1708
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 1: go nine miles an hour and jump four ft vertically,

1709
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 1: and uh, it's pretty amazing what this thing can do.

1710
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 1: How far are we from the T one hundred or

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01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 1: the T one thousand or T eight hundred. I forget

1712
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: what the models are from the Triminator movies. Let's talk

1713
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 1: to somebody who actually works with this stuff. We got

1714
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Dr Scott Coziel. He's assistant professor of electrical and Computer

1715
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 1: engineering at Baylor University. Doctor Coziel, great to have you. Hey,

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01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 1: thanks for my pleasure. So this Boston Dynamics robot was

1717
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: called by the CEO and anyone who hasn't seen and

1718
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, go home check out on YouTube. You'd

1719
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 1: be like, whoa, uh, nightmare inducing. That was a quote

1720
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: and unlike anything we've seen in robotics before. What is

1721
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 1: so different about this and what is it telling us

1722
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 1: about capabilities for robots right now? Yeah, Well, what's kind

1723
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 1: of interesting about this robot is it's got feet that

1724
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: are made out of wheels, so it's got wheels for feet,

1725
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 1: and it can it can bend its legs and it

1726
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 1: can also bend its waist, so it's kind of a

1727
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: unique thing. I mean, what's what's special about that is

1728
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 1: it can use these bending moments to to throw its

1729
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,600
Speaker 1: weight around and still maintain balance. So that's kind of

1730
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 1: a unique thing that you don't see a lot of

1731
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 1: HumanID robots that can, uh, they can do this and

1732
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 1: also do it really quickly. It's what's moving fast, it's

1733
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 1: always stabilizing itself. Now, Dr Cozy, how far are we

1734
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: from robot because right now we we've gotten used to

1735
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 1: drones being a a part of a part of modern warfare.

1736
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 1: Lethal drones are flying in dis guys over any or

1737
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: any number of places, and and I'm assuming people don't

1738
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 1: often think about this, but the world is going to

1739
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 1: be very interesting when these get cheaper, easier to build,

1740
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 1: easier to control, and other countries begin using them too,

1741
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 1: because it changes the calculation for kinetic strikes when a

1742
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 1: country doesn't have to risk a pilot and can just

1743
01:36:58,160 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: put a drone up in this guy and shoot a

1744
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 1: missile at some We haven't yet seen though, land based

1745
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 1: drones used in warfare in the same way or with

1746
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: the same frequency. How far are we from that kind

1747
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: of an application here. Yeah, that's a good question. So, yeah,

1748
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I think we're still a ways off. So there's a

1749
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: lot of things that robots can do, and certainly you're

1750
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,759
Speaker 1: right that they're becoming more ubiquitous, especially with cheaper censors,

1751
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: um gyroscopes, accelerometers. We can make these um mems they

1752
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,560
Speaker 1: call it, some microelectrical mechanical systems that can sense and

1753
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,839
Speaker 1: so that's that's been a really big driver in robotics

1754
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: as far as keeping the cost down and some amazing

1755
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: things we can do. But we're still kind of a

1756
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 1: long ways from from from my robot from from the

1757
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: terminator actually being able to outwit humans at this point.

1758
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: I know, I know that's the ways off. But how

1759
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 1: we've got drones that can run alongside I mean that drones,

1760
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: robots that can run alongside human beings if you put

1761
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,560
Speaker 1: a if you put a camera system on it, and

1762
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 1: some sort of offensive weapon uh uh, you know, machine gun,

1763
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: some sort of missile launcher. The technology, it seems already

1764
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: exists for land based drone warfare. We just don't see

1765
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 1: it used yet. I mean they sure, I've seen it

1766
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 1: used in for bomb disposal teams. They use robots that

1767
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 1: aren't particularly advanced, but they can do some pretty interesting stuff,

1768
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 1: right Yeah, yep, that's definitely one benefit. Like the pack

1769
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: bots and things that I Robot is making and helping

1770
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 1: the troops, it's definitely a great thing. Um yeah, I

1771
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 1: think we're still kind of long ways from. For one thing,

1772
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 1: you have to power a robot, so you have to

1773
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 1: think about how am I what kind of power source?

1774
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 1: Am I going to use to put these things out

1775
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 1: in the field. So that's something you always have to

1776
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 1: think about. Um. And then there's just sensing and thinking

1777
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: and acting. Um. All those have to kind of work

1778
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:49,560
Speaker 1: together and to make something that's sort of feelable. So

1779
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 1: when am I When am I gonna have my own

1780
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,759
Speaker 1: little personal like you know, Jeeves the butler as a robot.

1781
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 1: You know, when when does that happen for me? I'm

1782
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 1: thinking about the Jetsons now whereright? You got somebody you know,

1783
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:01,719
Speaker 1: I I need to clean up more after myself. Would

1784
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: be great if there was a little dude I could

1785
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:05,839
Speaker 1: just say, hey, go vacuum, and like if if Syrie

1786
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 1: combined with one of these Boston Dynamics robots and all

1787
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I've got somebody making flapjacks for me

1788
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: and you know, vacuuming and doing fun stuff. Well you

1789
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: you are in luck because they do have robot vacuum

1790
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 1: so that you can buy anywhere from I don't wait,

1791
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 1: like I mean like a little more than I'm talking about.

1792
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 1: We're talking about cleaning some windows, lifted up, the lifted

1793
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 1: up the mattress, you know, a little more ornate than

1794
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 1: just a little light dusting. I'm not sold yet. Dr Cozi. Well,

1795
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: it's really you know, you have to keep me in

1796
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 1: my career, so we don't want to like, you know,

1797
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 1: get it too fast. But um yeah, and we're still

1798
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 1: a little ways. But you know, the thing is like

1799
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 1: that we can do with localization. Um. Some of these

1800
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 1: more expensive robots, for example, can can use this thing

1801
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: called SLAM, so it's simultaneously mapping your house and figuring

1802
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 1: out where it is within your house at the same time,

1803
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: so you can figure out where it's man and what

1804
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 1: it's cleaned and um, so that you know the step

1805
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 1: by step we're kind of getting to that place. Are

1806
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 1: there other medical applications by the way, for you know,

1807
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 1: the kind of technology we're seeing, uh used by Boston

1808
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: Dynamics here. I mean I've seen some at least mock

1809
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,640
Speaker 1: ups of how surgeons might be able to use mechanical

1810
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 1: arms and it's all controlled through AI. And is that

1811
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 1: already happening or is that going to be happening soon? Right? Yeah,

1812
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 1: So there's the Vinci Surgical Systems, so it's sort of

1813
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 1: this robotic um as system device for doctors. Now, when

1814
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 1: you start talking about telemedicine, and you're have a doctor

1815
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: maybe in the States and operating overseas, you have a

1816
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 1: delay to think about as well. So the extreme cases,

1817
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 1: if you send a message to a Mars rover, right,

1818
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a long time to get that message

1819
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: back there and back. So in a in a smaller

1820
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 1: scaled version, there is some delay with UM TRANSMITTETO signals

1821
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 1: and sort of the speedback the doctor's need. So I

1822
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: know people are working on that and so hopefully they'll

1823
01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 1: have that figured out UM in the future, probably more

1824
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 1: than your future. Best robot movie, Doc, We've been asking

1825
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 1: all the experts tonight what their favorite movie in their

1826
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 1: area of expertise is. So best robot movies, what best

1827
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 1: true you know, I'm a big fan of Iron Man.

1828
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of more about AI, but you can

1829
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: kind of still think about it as a robot movie.

1830
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: Solid choice, DOC, High five on that one. It's Dr

1831
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 1: Scott Cozie's assistant professor of Electric and Computer engineering at

1832
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 1: Baylor University. Doc, thanks for calling in, great to have you. Oh,

1833
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,719
Speaker 1: thanks for having tonight. I have a great night. Uh, team,

1834
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit a break and we're just gonna close

1835
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: out with a whole bunch of fun stories that I

1836
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about. So stay where you are,

1837
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 1: be right back. I just saw this come in team

1838
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 1: from our friend Guy Benson, town Hall dot com politics editor,

1839
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: who was on the show earlier this week, and we're

1840
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 1: definitely on last week. Um. He has an exerpt here

1841
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 1: from a story that of the two meetings that Jeff

1842
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 1: Sessions have with the Russian ambassador, the first came at

1843
01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: a conference on global partners in Diplomacy, where Sessions was

1844
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 1: the keynote speaker. It was sponsored by the U. S.

1845
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: State Department, the Heritage Foundation, and several other organizations. It

1846
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: was held in Cleveland during the Republican National Convention. The

1847
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: conference was an educational program for ambassadors invited by the

1848
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 1: Obama State Department to observe the convention. The Obama State

1849
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 1: Department handled all the coordination with ambassadors and their staff,

1850
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:26,520
Speaker 1: of which they are about a hundred attendees at the conference. Apparently,

1851
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,759
Speaker 1: after Sessions finished speaking, a small group of ambassadors, including

1852
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 1: the Russian ambassador, approached the Senator as he left the

1853
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: stage and thanked him for his remarks. That's the first meeting,

1854
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 1: and it's hardly an occasion, much less a venue when

1855
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:42,719
Speaker 1: a conspiracy to interfere with the November election could be hatched.

1856
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: That's all a quote from Guy's Twitter account. Here's posting

1857
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: this new story. An exerpt from it. I just want

1858
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 1: to note that as we find out more about these

1859
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 1: Russia contacts with Session, and as we find that they

1860
01:42:55,040 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 1: are innocuous or understandable justifiable, you're not gonna get in.

1861
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: There's never any way to unring the bell here. All

1862
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 1: the stories about how the Kremlin is controlling the Trump

1863
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: administration and there's this massive conspiracy that goes to the

1864
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 1: very very top. They won't stop. They're not going to

1865
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:20,959
Speaker 1: say that that's they're going to rethink that. They're completely

1866
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 1: invested in that narrative. So just wait for next week.

1867
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 1: There'll be more fights over this, and I'm sure they'll

1868
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: find that somebody who once worked for Trump somewhere also

1869
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 1: had a friend who went to Russia. And you know,

1870
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 1: they're just gonna be dredging up whatever contacts they can,

1871
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: anything that they can find in order to keep They

1872
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 1: just gotta keep the narrative alive at this point, because

1873
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 1: people come to their conclusions, if you don't like Trump,

1874
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:52,679
Speaker 1: you think he is a Kremlin agent or a Kremlin stooge,

1875
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 1: or working alongside the Kremlin. Whatever. If you don't like him,

1876
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: there's a high likelihood you will believe that story if

1877
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 1: you hate this administrate and you're looking for a reason

1878
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: to hate the administration beyond all the ones they've already

1879
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 1: given you, I might add, because they've already been saying

1880
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:09,520
Speaker 1: that he's a sexist, or racist, a big at, a homophobe,

1881
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 1: all that, But now on top of that, it has

1882
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 1: to be that he's a he's a trader. They've gone

1883
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 1: for the ultimate. I mean, they haven't called him a

1884
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:19,600
Speaker 1: a murderer yet, and I think it's interesting that we

1885
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,719
Speaker 1: should note that they were calling Bush a murderer before Trump.

1886
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: Bush lied babies died. You will recall that, Um, you

1887
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 1: will call that sound. I mean that phrase, I'm sure

1888
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 1: and all the stupid left wing protesters out there that

1889
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 1: was one of their favorites. All right. I wanted to

1890
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 1: get off the political topic because it is Friday, and

1891
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you're getting ready for your weekendemy,

1892
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: your weekends already already gotten started. Here. Um, there are

1893
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 1: some subjects that I have very strong opinions about that

1894
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 1: I just can't keep to myself, and one of them

1895
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 1: is over the food fight that the f d A

1896
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: is involved in. Right now, When somebody says to me

1897
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: that they drink milk, I assume that they're referring to

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Speaker 1: at least a a a fluid that comes from the

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01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 1: utter of an animal. Right That's that's how you. For me,

1900
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:15,600
Speaker 1: that's milk and dairy farmers, whether it's goat, cow or

1901
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Speaker 1: any of the others. I will say I drink goat

1902
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 1: milk sometimes it's actually quite nice, little tart, but dairy

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Speaker 1: farmers are This is a federal government issue. The f

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01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 1: d A has to weigh in on this because dairy

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01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:32,640
Speaker 1: farmers don't want all the other quote milks to be

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01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 1: able to call their drinks milk. Now, I don't know

1907
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 1: how many of you have strong opinions on this, but

1908
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I think that almond milk, which

1909
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: I also have had sometimes, should be called almond drink

1910
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 1: or almond juice. I remember learning as a kid that

1911
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 1: what was it you who was not, in fact chocolate milk,

1912
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 1: it was chocolate drink. Almond milk should be called almond

1913
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: drink or if you want to call it almond water

1914
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 1: because you have coconut water. To me, you can't you

1915
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 1: can't be milk unless it's it can't be milking less

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01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 1: it's from an animal. And once again second Ron Swanson

1917
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Speaker 1: quote from Parks and Wreck on the show today, Uh,

1918
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:11,639
Speaker 1: skim milk is water that is lying about being milk,

1919
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:13,719
Speaker 1: which I think is also true. I drink whole milk.

1920
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 1: That's the way to go. But this is a big

1921
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,640
Speaker 1: fight that the FDA has to get involved in. And

1922
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 1: this it's fascinating when you read a little bit of

1923
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 1: the history of this because it extends beyond milk. They're

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01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:27,760
Speaker 1: all these different foods now that people want. They want

1925
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 1: the association for the substitute kind of food, but they

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01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 1: don't want or there or they're not serving the actual food.

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01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 1: So milk and sausage or where a lot of these

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Speaker 1: fights have happened. And if sausage can be something that

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01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,879
Speaker 1: is not meat based, nothing is sacred in this world anymore.

1930
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 1: Sausage is first of all, a much maligned meat by

1931
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 1: the people as all you learn how to make the sausage,

1932
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 1: and sausage is all the leftover good. Sausage is fantastic,

1933
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 1: but it has to be meat based. You can't give

1934
01:46:56,080 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 1: me a sausage that's made out of tofu or what's

1935
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 1: the other I am trying to remember the other kind

1936
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 1: of thing that they put. I can't even I can't

1937
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 1: remember now that what. Oh, no chicken sausages sausage. Oh,

1938
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm being told chicken sausage is not sausage. Has nonsense, jay,

1939
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 1: if it's from an animal. Look, obviously the gold standard

1940
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,160
Speaker 1: is is some sort of red meat based product for

1941
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: your sausage. But I think chicken sausage is okay. Um,

1942
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,639
Speaker 1: there's some O, there's some other substitutes that they try

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01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 1: to get going. But they they had a big fight

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Speaker 1: with the FDA over a product called wings, which was

1945
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 1: spelled w y n g Z wings and they were

1946
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 1: made to look like chicken wings, but there was in

1947
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:49,719
Speaker 1: fact no chicken in them. So if you were eating

1948
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 1: these wings, I don't know, I don't know what some

1949
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 1: sort of substitute product. And and there are fights over

1950
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 1: this because there's real money at stake. I mean, this

1951
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 1: is the whole industry. And I gotta say, if I'm

1952
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 1: an old, cool dairy farmer and I'm out there milk

1953
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 1: and the cows in the morning. I don't think somebody

1954
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: gets to have their fancy processing machine with their almonds

1955
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,719
Speaker 1: and call that milk. I think it's juice or water.

1956
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 1: So and this this turns into them that where does

1957
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 1: the federal government get involved? How do they come down

1958
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 1: on this? So of course the feds get in on

1959
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 1: this action. How can you call yourself mayo if you

1960
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 1: are eggless? Because everyone knows mayo is delicious, and there's

1961
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 1: a brand value in calling something that is not egg based,

1962
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 1: that is a substitute of something called mayo. You're not

1963
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Speaker 1: allowed to in fact, and in the eight eight this

1964
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Speaker 1: is this fight has been going on forever. By the way,

1965
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Speaker 1: I know we're talking about patagody and toothfish earlier in

1966
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Speaker 1: the show. Um, I'm pretty sure. Also is it canola

1967
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 1: oil used to be called rape seed oil and they change,

1968
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 1: you know, because it doesn't sound that sounds bad, um,

1969
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 1: and they change the name to canola. I think it

1970
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:57,679
Speaker 1: was canola oil. But there used to be an oil

1971
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 1: you cooked with called rape seed oil and they got

1972
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 1: rid of it, um because of the name saying, and

1973
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 1: much more effective product after that. And the same thing

1974
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: of course with the patagony toothfish what you call your

1975
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 1: food matters to people. It brings up certain You know,

1976
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: when somebody says buck applewood smoked bacon, I just start

1977
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 1: to I start to say, that's a fantastic I don't

1978
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 1: even know what we're talking about. It's a fantastic idea.

1979
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 1: It's exciting and we should all get behind it. Um.

1980
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Speaker 1: But back in the eighteen eighties, this is because of

1981
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 1: some of these fights that have broken out recently. There's

1982
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 1: been some news reports on this. CBS has done one

1983
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:33,680
Speaker 1: here back in the eighteen eighties in Wisconsin the what

1984
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 1: is it the the cheese State, right, isn't it? That?

1985
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: Is it known as the cheese state? Or am? I

1986
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:40,719
Speaker 1: just yeah? And if you like the Green Bay Packers,

1987
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 1: you are a cheese head, right, Yeah? That's I know

1988
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: some things about some stuff. But there were fights over

1989
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: whether you could over margarine. They wanted to call margarine

1990
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 1: counterfeit butter. Them is fighting words. I gotta say I

1991
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 1: totally agree with that though Margarine gross not not a

1992
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 1: margarine guy, never have been. If you're gonna eat something

1993
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 1: that looks like butter, it's got to be butter. I

1994
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:04,720
Speaker 1: don't even go with that. I can't believe it's not

1995
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: butter stuff. I like butter um. So you have a

1996
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 1: cow milk, there's a fight over that. That's out there.

1997
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Speaker 1: Eggs you've got to have. I think you've got to

1998
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 1: have eggs for it to be mayo. And even whether

1999
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 1: you can even whether you can call something yogurt or

2000
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:24,520
Speaker 1: not based on whether it has a milk protein concentrate

2001
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 1: or actually yogurt. These are all the fights, the fights

2002
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 1: that break out, the fights that happen everybody. So I

2003
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: think of the the nut based milks that one can have,

2004
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:36,560
Speaker 1: brazil nut milk is probably my favorite, but that's a

2005
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 1: little that's a little fancy. Almond milk is also quite good.

2006
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 1: So the federal government gets involved here and they tell

2007
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 1: you what you can and cannot say about your food.

2008
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm somebody who just always tries to fall on the

2009
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 1: side of I kick at old school the way that

2010
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: it has been. All the stuff that we have been

2011
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,879
Speaker 1: eating for a long time, and I'm not strictly paleo.

2012
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure many of know what I'm talking about. All

2013
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: the stuff that we can grow or that comes from

2014
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 1: an animal, that's what we want to be eating. This

2015
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,560
Speaker 1: chemical based stuff for me is I just have. I

2016
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 1: have misgivings about it, and I do not like the

2017
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 1: association of things that are tofu based, pretending that that

2018
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 1: is somehow a meat patty. No, it is not. It

2019
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: is perhaps better used as a sporting implement, like a

2020
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 1: hockey puck, than for human consumption. I've just never people

2021
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 1: have tried to sell me on veggie burgers. I have

2022
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 1: tried many of veggie burger. Let me tell you, there's

2023
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 1: nothing burger about that, compressed whatever it is. I just

2024
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,960
Speaker 1: that's not how I get down veggets. You know, I'm Celiac,

2025
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 1: so I can't eat gluten. I already get very sick,

2026
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,719
Speaker 1: so I'm sensitive to people having allergies about different foods

2027
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 1: and food groups. But my food talk here that they've

2028
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 1: thrown the team's throwing the music on early. This is

2029
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 1: what happens when I go off the rails. Um. But

2030
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 1: I just the whole vegetarian thing. I don't know. I

2031
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 1: don't I don't get I don't know how people do it.

2032
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not judging. I mean maybe I'm judging,

2033
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 1: but I'm not judging. I don't know anybody goes that

2034
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 1: route though, because meat is delicious, and you know, how

2035
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 1: fired up I got about Trump ordering a steak well

2036
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 1: done and eating it with ketchup. That's like sacrilege. Alright, team,

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Speaker 1: that's it for my little food lecture today of eight four.

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Speaker 1: Wait now you can't call him at the end of

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01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: the show. Download the podcast though, please iTunes. Uh. Type

2040
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Speaker 1: in Buck sexing with American out, click subscribe, Share with

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Speaker 1: a friend. I'll be back with you obviously every day

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Speaker 1: next week, same time, same place here in the Freedom Hunt.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Everybody shields hi