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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Stephane.

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Speaker 1: Never told you but actually I Heeart Radio. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Activists Around the World. Um,

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Speaker 1: and today we're gonna We're gonna go to the oceans. Annie,

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Speaker 1: We're going to like it's warm and tropical here, rainy

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Speaker 1: and disgusting. Right, this is finally kind of sunshining, but

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Speaker 1: it's been rain and disgusting in Atlanta in the past

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Speaker 1: few weeks. Yeah, weeks actually. Um, so we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: and travel the ocean maybe. Actually, have you ever been sailing? Annie,

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Speaker 1: I have been sailing. Um, yes, yes I have. It

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Speaker 1: was kind of a disastrous, which is probably because we

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Speaker 1: didn't I went with some of my cousins who were

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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, ten or something, and

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Speaker 1: something wasn't attached correctly, and the big, the big you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, pole thing. Any sailors are

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Speaker 1: listening or like gritting their teeth. I'm sorry, but it

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Speaker 1: me into water. That is only in common and somehow

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Speaker 1: it happened to you, like I see this, like what

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Speaker 1: about Bob Classic? But I'm like what of course? Of course, well,

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask, do you have any interest

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's a strong interest, but I have

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Speaker 1: an interest in the university I went to had a

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Speaker 1: my motivation to do it. I'm interested in it, but

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Speaker 1: then you show me like all the things that it requires,

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Speaker 1: and like, okay, yeah. I actually had a good friend Hayley,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, we you live in Atlanta, where are

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Speaker 1: you going in Lake Laniar? Yes, The Haunted lake. Laniar

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Speaker 1: apparently has offerings um, and she's been going and she

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Speaker 1: so we're about to talk about our activists and there's

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Speaker 1: and apparently a skipper. I didn't like, that's one of

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Speaker 1: began her her very exciting career, first organizing community cleanups

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Speaker 1: sailing research Expeditions UM and according to the website expedition

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Speaker 1: quote we empower multi disciplinary all women crews on voyages

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Speaker 1: environmental awareness, and cultural and societal shifts UM. And since

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Speaker 1: And Penn talked about her experience on the initial voyage

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Speaker 1: People did question in all women crew, but they weren't

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Speaker 1: were definitely some comments, won't everyone just be at each

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Speaker 1: And she has since added more programs to help with

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Speaker 1: Shift is a program PIN started in twenty nineteen. It

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