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Speaker 2: It's the final hour, the Power Hour here on The

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Speaker 2: Herd on a glorious news packed Friday. It's me and

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Speaker 2: Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowherd, joined by Rachel Nichols.

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Speaker 2: We have had a just a spectacular week of news.

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Speaker 3: We've been so fortunate. How about this, Knny Dacy.

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Speaker 2: It was just the first time Taylor Swiftless ever upstaged

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Speaker 2: in her life.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Jerry Jones, man, you can do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, listen, nobody in Brazil who cares

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Speaker 2: about Michael Parson Well, actually Brazil, Mike care And let

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Speaker 2: me pivot to a different country, Romania. They love Taylor

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Speaker 2: swift there. I don't know if they know about Michael

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Speaker 2: Parsons there. Anyways, it was everyone that asked about the Star.

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Speaker 2: Actually good point, Dallas's Global former Ohio State quarterback Cardale

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Speaker 2: Jones Top five. We had to balance it. We got

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Speaker 2: Cole McCoy last hour. Now we get Cardale Jones here

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Speaker 2: in the final hour. But let's start with the trade

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Speaker 2: herd around Jerry World. Micah Parsons has been traded to

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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers, and if you ask me, Dallas

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Speaker 2: got completely robbed in this deal. I cannot believe that

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Speaker 2: this trade happened. I think obviously green Bay won the trade.

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Speaker 2: There's many angles to break down here. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: with the Packers angle first because I do think and

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen a lot of other takes on this.

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Speaker 2: I think the Packers are right there as one of

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Speaker 2: the best teams, not only in the NFC but in

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Speaker 2: the league. This puts them in the serious Super Bowl consideration.

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Speaker 2: I had them in my Tier two for Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: contenders earlier this week. They clearly vault to one. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't think people realize just how good Mikah Parsons is. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this move going from Dallas to Green Bay, I believe

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Speaker 2: is bigger than the Matt Stafford trade from a few

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Speaker 2: years ago. When the Rams got Matt Stafford. Everybody was excited. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: it led to a Super Bowl. But Michael Parsons is

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Speaker 2: in his prime. He's only played four seasons in the league.

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Speaker 2: Matt Stafford was thirty three, a little older. You know,

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Speaker 2: the Christian McCaffrey trade was big. Khalil Mack trade was big.

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Speaker 2: This is seismic. I mean, folks, Michael Parsons again, I

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Speaker 2: know he takes a lot of heat for inside the

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Speaker 2: locker room stuff his podcast. We will address that because

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Speaker 2: it bears some discussion. But let me just remind folks,

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Speaker 2: Michah Parsons in year one was runner up.

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Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, He's been an All Pro three times in four years.

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Speaker 2: He has twelve or more sacks in every season he's

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Speaker 2: played so far to start his career. It's not hyperbole

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Speaker 2: to say Michah Parsons is already on track to be

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Speaker 2: a first ballot Hall of Famer after four seasons. He's

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Speaker 2: in the discussion with the likes of Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White,

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett as one of the greatest pass rushers in

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Speaker 2: NFL history after four years now. We don't know what's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen, obviously, but Parsons is a terror coming off

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Speaker 2: the edge. And if you're the Green Bay Packers and you.

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Speaker 3: Look at your.

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Speaker 2: Defensive roster and you're like, oh, we got Gary, we

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Speaker 2: got some good linebackers. We got a good team, which

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Speaker 2: you didn't have with that blue chip superstar. Where you

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Speaker 2: the opponent looks at how we gonna how we gonna

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Speaker 2: block Michael Parsons? What are we gonna have to adjust stuff?

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Speaker 2: You have to scheme specifically for Parsons. Now, teams have

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Speaker 2: done that in the playoffs with some success. But you

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Speaker 2: Green Bay defense suddenly is a wrecking crew. And I

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Speaker 2: draft to win the Super Bowl were plus twenty two hundred. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that was after the draft, And I'll tell you why

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Speaker 2: We know what they don't do in the first round, right,

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Matthew Golden. It's not like he's

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Speaker 3: Golden is gonna be that guy, get him on your

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Speaker 2: Now you add Michael Parsons a massive trade. What did

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Speaker 2: we hear from NFL pundits all week? Guys, Packers they're

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Speaker 2: not gonna get Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 3: They don't do that. They don't make these huge, splashy trades.

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Speaker 3: Haven't done that forever.

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Speaker 2: Once again, the Packers break character, go out and get

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Speaker 3: How do we stop that guy coming off the edge.

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Speaker 2: And I believe the green Bay Packers probably will be

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Speaker 2: get the Trent Williams matchup against Michael Parsons. And boy,

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Speaker 2: green Bay fans, you've got to be absolutely geeked. I

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Speaker 2: got a buddy who is a Milwaukee Brewers fan, and

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Speaker 2: He's like Brewers baseball, Packers football.

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Speaker 3: It's a great day in Green Bay. And by the way, for.

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Speaker 2: Those who are saying, well, Packer's overpaid, and we'll address it,

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Speaker 2: Jordan loves contract. They got him early, guys, he is

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Speaker 2: only the thirteenth biggest cap hit at quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 2: You want to take a guess who's first this season,

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott biggest cap hit in the league, And let's

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Speaker 2: move to Dallas now and address that side of the trade.

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Speaker 2: I want to start positive because I want to ear

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Speaker 2: So there's this fun exercise that I've.

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Speaker 3: Been told to do. You know, you turn thirty years

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Speaker 3: old and you're supposed to look back at your younger.

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Speaker 2: Self and like write a little letter and say, man,

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Speaker 2: don't you wish you knew this at twenty? And then

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Speaker 2: you do it at you know, at thirty, you're like, oh, man,

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Speaker 2: hand it down to your kids relatives. So when you

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Speaker 2: do it at forty, it's most about you know, having kids,

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Speaker 2: buying a house, that next step of life. But when

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Speaker 2: you read about this, the one thing that it keeps

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Speaker 2: coming back to is you need to act with less

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Speaker 2: emotion and relationships and work. Just chill out, calm down

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Speaker 2: now if you couldn't tell I tend to get emotional

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Speaker 2: sometimes specifically about sports, and I think Jerry Jones got

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Speaker 2: really emotional here and made a horrific decision. He told

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Speaker 2: Jane Slater that after news broke this week that there

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Speaker 2: were trade talks for Michaeh Parsons. Micah and his agent

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Speaker 2: who his agent's really good, went to the Cowboys with

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Speaker 2: quote empathy, and they wanted to get a deal done,

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Speaker 2: and allegedly, according to Michael Parsons, Jerry Jones got very

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Speaker 2: fifth year or leave, folks. That is not how you

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Speaker 2: run a football team. That is amateur hour. Amateurs act

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Speaker 3: Pros.

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Speaker 2: They look at the numbers, and the numbers said, Jerry,

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Speaker 2: you bungled this badly.

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Speaker 3: And for those out there who.

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Speaker 6: Were screaming Jay Mac, wait a minute, they didn't overpay,

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Speaker 6: got Kenny Clark. Kenny Clark ain't very good, but that's

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Speaker 6: that's another story, guys.

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Speaker 2: The reason that this got this far was because Jerry

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Speaker 2: didn't do this last year. If he had gone last

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Speaker 2: year and said, you know what, we can't afford Ceedee, Lamb,

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Speaker 3: You do this last year.

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Speaker 2: You could have made the deal last year and got

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Speaker 2: more for Michah Parsons.

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Speaker 3: Why wait so long?

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Speaker 2: I mean, at worst, if he had done this at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the offseason, Jerry gets a bidding war

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Speaker 2: Raiders had called, but they were late to the game. Jerry, like,

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Speaker 2: I understand, he's a billionaire, and I understand he's had success,

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Speaker 2: you know, thirty years ago with Jimmy Johnson winning a

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Speaker 2: bunch of Super Bowls. But did Jerry just totally misplay

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Speaker 2: his hand here? Well, yeah, clearly he bungled this so badly.

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Speaker 2: Folks paying Dak and Lamb and knowing that you can't

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Speaker 2: pay Micah, you should have done this last year.

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Speaker 3: Now, Jerry Jones took in. It was in front of

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Speaker 2: Thursday after the trade, and guys, he claims he's been

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Speaker 2: thinking about this trade for a long time.

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Speaker 7: We did think it was in the best interest of

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Speaker 7: season as well.

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Speaker 3: We've gained a.

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Speaker 7: Pro Bowl player in an area that we had big

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Speaker 7: concern in our concerns in on the inside of our defense.

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Speaker 7: The facts are, specifically, we need to stop the run,

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Speaker 7: and we haven't been to stop the run at key

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Speaker 7: times for several years.

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Speaker 2: Boy, if I was allowed to use expletives on the show,

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Speaker 2: I would have come out of that quote and said,

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Speaker 2: what the are you talking about? We need to stop

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Speaker 2: the run? What kind of alternative universes? Jerry Jones living

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Speaker 2: in Folks? Okay, Fine, you knew you needed to stop

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Speaker 2: the run at the draft.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a look at the Cowboys draft.

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Speaker 5: Shall we.

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Speaker 2: They got an offensive lineman, an edge rusher, a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: a running back, a linebacker, an offensive lineman. Oh they're

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Speaker 2: at pick two hundred and seventeen, mister, We've got.

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Speaker 3: To stop the run. You waited two.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and seventeen picks to get a defensive tackle?

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Speaker 3: What like Jerry's saying stuff that doesn't even make sense?

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Speaker 2: Guys. I got a buddy who's a Cowboys fan. His

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Speaker 2: daughter plays on my daughter's volleyball team. You know, we've

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Speaker 2: known each other coach soccer together.

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Speaker 3: He texted me, I'm literally crying right now.

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Speaker 2: After the trade. He was like, what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: And you know this isn't just Jerry screwing up the

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Speaker 2: Mica deal and then trying to lie to everyone's face.

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Speaker 2: Radio guy in San Diego, Colt college football games really

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Speaker 5: Good morning to you, Jason. This yeah, this is true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you never stopped working. Hey, we

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Speaker 2: have it good. We're talking about sports. Let's start, obviously

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Speaker 2: with the big news. Micah Parsons shipped from Dallas. Now, listen,

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Speaker 2: we had several guests on the show this week, Rich

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Speaker 2: and all of them said the same thing. Oh, Jerry

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Speaker 2: o'cave at the last minute, Packers, they don't do these big.

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Speaker 3: Splashy moves.

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Speaker 2: Everybody. I don't think anybody called this. Everyone was wrong.

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Speaker 3: How shocked were you that Micah got shipped to Green Bay?

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Speaker 5: I was shocked like everybody else.

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Speaker 11: I thought exactly what you said would come true, that

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Speaker 11: unapproachable for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: I figured that this would go down where one.

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Speaker 11: Day they would be, you know, twenty twenty five years

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Speaker 11: stories about how I saw a stat today that in

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Speaker 11: the common draft era, there's only been twenty nine first

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Speaker 3: Wow, oh my, that's crazy. Nellison. You've been around the league.

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Speaker 2: Patriots, obviously you've seen a lot of things. Does this

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I think this is.

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Speaker 3: Bigger than this McCaffrey trade.

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Speaker 2: I think he's bigger than Stafford, bigger than Khalil Mackett's,

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Speaker 2: like Michael Parson's has been pretty damn dominant, and it's

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Speaker 11: It's not just franchise shifting for the Packers and the Cowboys, frankly,

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Speaker 11: potentially more impactful because this takes the Packers to a

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Speaker 11: plummets the Cowboys, already paltry chances and making themselves into

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Speaker 11: this year. This really was a poor move by the Cowboys,

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Speaker 11: and it was a head scratching move for Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 11: He's a guy who typically likes to make a show

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Speaker 11: and Micah Parsons would have been a good decision, a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Usually after these big trades happen of stars, whether

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Speaker 11: I'm never gonna say never. But from a character's standpoint,

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Speaker 11: I haven't heard anything negative about Micah Parsons. All you

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Speaker 11: And I think that attitude started to grow within Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 12: But as it.

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Speaker 11: Stands right now, all I've heard is that he was

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Speaker 3: All right, Rich, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: Were you surprised at that decision.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Look, some of those things, man, when you rewind back

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Speaker 11: But I think the further we get from there, I

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Speaker 5: Time in all of our lives.

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Speaker 11: I mean, that was almost an understanding between the union,

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Speaker 11: going to be a very different season. It's going to

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Speaker 11: be obviously accommodations made and many sacrifices made for those

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Speaker 11: then likewise, there are going to be certain people who

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Speaker 5: And then that got somehow.

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Speaker 11: Reconstituted in his mind I when he was reviewing Michael

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Speaker 11: I suppose I would believe you. But it would be

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Speaker 11: hard to believe that Jerry Jones would let something that

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Speaker 3: Right, let's go to college football.

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Speaker 2: So obviously you went to Penn State, played there before

437
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Speaker 2: getting drafted, and a lot of people like the Niley

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Speaker 2: Lions this year to win the national championship. I have

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Speaker 2: a ticket on Penn State. I got to ask the

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Speaker 2: James Franklin stat. You see it on the screen there,

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Speaker 2: one in sixteen against top five opponents.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I get it.

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Speaker 2: If you want to write off, hey, he's one in six,

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Speaker 2: you know he's two and seven.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about a seventeen game sample size of gagging

447
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Speaker 2: in the biggest spots in the sport. Is this the

448
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Speaker 2: year Franklin overcomes it? Or I don't know, Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: not that big of a deal to you.

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Speaker 5: Rich, Well, look, it certainly is a big deal.

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Speaker 11: As an alumni, you want to see your team have success.

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Speaker 11: But in terms of James Franklin, and I know him personally,

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Speaker 11: he's a great man. He's a really solid recruiter, and

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Speaker 11: obviously he's been able to create a culture and really

455
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Speaker 11: have a rebirth culturally there at Penn State after some

456
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Speaker 11: of the things that that program went through, and it's

457
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Speaker 11: been incredible the heights that he's brought the program too.

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Speaker 5: Now you can say one thing and also live in.

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Speaker 11: The reality that we're living in where he is one

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Speaker 11: in sixteen against top five opponents, and that does hurt

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Speaker 11: some of the conversation about the greatness that he has

462
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Speaker 11: exuded since taking this head coaching position at Penn State.

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Speaker 11: It's a problem, and I'm sure it's one that keeps

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Speaker 11: him up at night sometimes when he.

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Speaker 5: Sees that stat he's having a similar reaction.

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Speaker 11: I promise you to all the Penn State alumni who

467
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Speaker 11: would be proud if it was the inverse, if you

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Speaker 11: were sixteen and one against top five teams. Right, doesn't

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Speaker 11: mean he can't win a national title. Doesn't mean he

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Speaker 11: can't win against top five talent this season. Of course

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Speaker 11: it doesn't, because every single football season is a different year.

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Speaker 11: But does it mean that he has to change the

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Speaker 11: approach and continue to tweak this thing and not rely

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Speaker 11: that his way last year is going to be the

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Speaker 11: right way this year? Well, well, no, he has to

476
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Speaker 11: continue to evolve and work at this thing and make

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Speaker 11: sure that his teams are ready to play in the

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Speaker 11: biggest moments of the biggest games, where so many times

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Speaker 11: we've seen failures.

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Speaker 5: And I think he's I think he's up for that challenge.

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Speaker 11: Knowing his attitude and his effort on a daily basis

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Speaker 11: not only from getting to know him, but also through

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Speaker 11: other former colleagues and players that I was teammates with

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Speaker 11: who have been honor currently on his staff. I think

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Speaker 11: he's the type of coach who won't rest until he

486
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Speaker 11: fixes this problem, and that fix could be in for

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Last question, Rich real quick Ohio State. You know team

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Speaker 2: you're dimly familiar with Ben.

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Speaker 3: Sday big rival.

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Speaker 2: They are hosting a gentleman named arch Manning making his

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Speaker 2: official launch. I know he started a couple games, but

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Speaker 2: your best guess, Just to be clear, we're all guessing

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Speaker 2: as to whether Arts is going to be good, bad,

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Speaker 2: or at whatever. Your best guess as to how Arts

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Speaker 2: performs at the Shoe on Saturday.

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Speaker 5: My best guess is he's going to be prepared.

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Speaker 11: Obviously, coming from the great football lineage that he does.

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Speaker 5: You know, the family that he comes from.

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Speaker 11: He has access to some of the greatest football minds,

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Speaker 11: and he's a text messager or a phone call away.

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Speaker 5: And then he's been raised in.

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Speaker 11: This, He's been given the best avenue for success possible.

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Speaker 11: And then also I appreciate the way Texas handled him

505
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Speaker 11: last year, you know, leaving him a year to be

506
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Speaker 11: an understudy, learning the speed of the college game, more

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Speaker 11: away from the daylight and the bright lights of that

508
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Speaker 11: stadium down in Austin, as opposed to being thrust into

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Speaker 11: it and showcasing him at times and still having some success.

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Speaker 11: So my best guess is that Arch Manning is going

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Speaker 11: to live up to the billing, and I can't wait.

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Speaker 11: I think he's an explosive athlete, which is rare to

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Speaker 11: say about a Manning playing football. And I also think

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Speaker 11: that he's got a live arm. He can touch anywhere

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Speaker 11: on the football field, and he can do it with

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Speaker 11: the type of feathering and layering that you absolutely need

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Speaker 11: to have with the sort of athletes you're going to

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Speaker 11: see on the defensive side of the ball now in

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Speaker 11: college football.

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Speaker 3: So, Texas money line or what.

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Speaker 13: You know, I don't hate it, Honestly, I don't hate it,

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Speaker 13: all right, I don't hate I don't hate the money line.

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Speaker 13: I'll tell you what. That's where the value is. If

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Speaker 13: you believe in Arch Manning. That's the money line back, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Rich Ornberger, radio host, former NFL player, former Penn State Star.

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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, rich, have a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: Buddy, anytime, Jay Max, you too, all right, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: The Penn State side of him was coming out there.

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Speaker 2: Come on, going against Ohio State. Let's go to Rachel

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Speaker 2: Nichols with.

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Speaker 4: The news.

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Speaker 5: Turns this is the herd Line news.

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Speaker 4: Well, Jason, we've had someone else. Way in on the

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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts debate, Dominkin, Sue said it was disrespectful. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: ranking Hurts nineteenth on the NFL Top one hundred list. Remember,

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Speaker 4: Sue spent twenty twenty two on the Eagles, and to

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Speaker 4: back up his point, look the results of the results.

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Speaker 3: Jmack.

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Speaker 4: This guy has led Philadelphia to four consecutive playoff appearances

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Speaker 4: to NFC championships, and most importantly, he scored two touchdowns

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Speaker 4: to help them win the Super Bowl. But to the

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Speaker 4: point of those who don't rate Hurts is high, he

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Speaker 4: only threw twenty two passes in that Super Bowl win.

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Speaker 4: In fact, the Eagles are twenty one to nine when

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Speaker 4: Hurtz throws less than thirty times. But when he has

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Speaker 4: to air it out, it's not great. You can look

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Speaker 4: at the numbers here. Basically, it gets worse the more

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Speaker 4: that he throws. So Jmack is nineteenth too low, too high, just.

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Speaker 3: Right, way too low? Who's Sam bagging with those?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 2: I guess you know context is needed? Right? How many

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Speaker 2: of those were without Saquan?

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Speaker 3: I saw a.

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Speaker 2: Crazy stat where they basically barely trailed in the fourth

555
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Speaker 2: quarter last year. So you're not really throwing burrows, chucking

556
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Speaker 2: and duck in all games. I don't really, I don't

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Speaker 2: have an answer for that. I know that's sad that

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Speaker 2: you have to have a take on everything. As you

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Speaker 2: said earlier, I don't think it's a knock that he

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Speaker 2: doesn't throw a lot.

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Speaker 4: Like I mean, the idea is, if you have to

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Speaker 4: limit his part of the game plan, is he really

563
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Speaker 4: that great a quarterback compared to guys where the teams

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Speaker 4: where the quarterback makes the team. You know, Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 4: stand out obviously, heart and soul of your team.

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, Okay, that's good. Lamar's good.

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Speaker 2: So you mentioned Lamar So I remember when he came

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Speaker 2: in halfway through the season. He really couldn't throw the football.

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Speaker 2: It was just all running. So they cater to him.

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Speaker 2: They get to the playoffs. I'm fairly certain.

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Speaker 3: They lost to the Chargers, or they beat them. I

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Speaker 3: for whatever the result was. The bottom line is.

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Speaker 2: Like they catered to Lamar, So the Eagles are catering

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Speaker 2: to Hurts.

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Speaker 3: His strengths very good on.

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Speaker 2: The ground, good when he throws twenty five passes, and

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Speaker 2: great run game. I don't want my quarterbacks sitting back

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Speaker 2: there chuck in forty five times. What do you It's

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Speaker 2: more likely like you drop back to pass, you could

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Speaker 2: fumble the stab, quarterback gets sacked, quarterback gets injured. I

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Speaker 2: feel like running is a little more safe. I know

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Speaker 2: it's probably not as efficient.

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Speaker 4: Look you have Saquon Barkley, So that's the answer to me.

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Speaker 4: I think this is I get it. I do understand

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Speaker 4: the question. You know, Kevin Wilds, who will see in

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Speaker 4: the next hour, You know he is very determined to

587
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Speaker 4: not understand the question because to him, Jalen Hurts is

588
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Speaker 4: just way underrated. I get the question, but I don't

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Speaker 4: agree with a lot of people's answer. I'm with Kevin

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Speaker 4: on the fact that this guy is you are asking

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Speaker 4: someone to win you a Super Bowl, and he went

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Speaker 4: out and won a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: What else do you want from him? He's got nothing

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Speaker 3: left to prove. In my book, I love jim Ye. No,

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Speaker 3: there you go.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's talk a little h Commanders. I almost

597
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Speaker 4: said it.

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Speaker 2: Cost it right now, you're a Washington fan, I can't.

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Speaker 4: It's like years of conditioning, all right, Terry McLaurin, very

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Speaker 4: notable contract dispute. But unlike their division rival, the command

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys, So I got that in there, the Commanders

602
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Speaker 4: were able to get a deal done. Now that McLaurin

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Speaker 4: is back in camp, he says, getting back with secondyear

604
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Speaker 4: quarterback James Daniels has been like quote, riding a bike,

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Speaker 4: and the two haven't missed a step. Now you know

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Speaker 4: about how I feel about my hometown team offense, I'm

607
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Speaker 4: all in. I think there's gonna be a little regression

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Speaker 4: here and there, but I'm all in the defense. My

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Speaker 4: rule is the fight club rule. What's the first rule

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Speaker 4: of fight club? We don't talk about fight club. What's

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Speaker 4: the first rule of being a commander's fan? We don't

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Speaker 4: talk about the defense?

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Speaker 7: Bad?

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Speaker 4: They were in the middle. Well, look, they were in

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Speaker 4: the middle of the pack last season, but thirty five

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Speaker 4: percent of the quarterbacks they face were backups.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Their rushing defense was twenty ninth, not great, and they

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Speaker 4: got older, right, von Miller's thirty six. So where are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm the Commanders obviously NFC championship last year. I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna win their division. But where do you think they'll

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Speaker 4: be in the NFC picture? Considering the amazing offense and

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Speaker 4: the fight club defense.

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Speaker 2: So we'll go what I think we would agree, Packers, Eagles,

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Speaker 2: Niners or at.

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Speaker 3: The top in some orders.

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Speaker 2: And then I think Washington is probably in that second group,

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Speaker 2: right with whether you want the Lions, the Rams, Falcons

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Speaker 2: or you Bucks or Falcons, yeah or neither.

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Speaker 3: I think Washington is gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: I just you know, it was a charm season, you degree, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: of course, you know we deserve one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Darryl Green's not walking through that door, right, Actually he might.

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Speaker 2: He could probably start off Daryl.

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Speaker 3: Green the defense.

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Speaker 2: So I was in I grew up in d in

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Speaker 2: the DC area, and when we were walking to school,

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Speaker 2: the crossing guards would hand out I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you remember this, like Washington the time Redskins cards?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Darryl Green?

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Speaker 2: What's a card? Everyone?

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Speaker 3: I was a legend. Here're the fastest guy in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Garry Clark monk right, I wasn't a Washington fan,

645
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Speaker 2: But I hogs the hogs, Jacobe, the fun bunch, come on,

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Speaker 2: Washington had a good history, and now they're back.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, We're back, baby, kind of maybe not defensively. All right,

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Speaker 4: let's take one last look at the Michael Parsons trade.

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Speaker 4: Jerry said that they have been evaluating several teams and

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Speaker 4: deals for months, for months, Jason, but it's inarguable saying

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Speaker 4: Michah would have commanded much more had Jerry actually truly

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Speaker 4: held the public bidding war. When you look at some

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Speaker 4: of the notable trades that have happened in recent history,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to argue that he should not

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Speaker 4: have gotten more capital back. And look, you can look

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Speaker 4: here at some recent deals. I know Dallas also got

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Speaker 4: Kenny Clark, but it's not a good look right.

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Speaker 3: With Jamal Adams.

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Speaker 2: That's right to first and a third, Wow, that was

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Speaker 2: a heista, I think, yeah, that was crazy. I mean

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Speaker 2: Laramie Tunsel got more than home. Yeah, folks who was

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Speaker 2: arguing in the meeting this morning that that is Jerry

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Speaker 2: did an okay job.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, two days not good if you had

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Speaker 4: if you really I mean, of all the things that

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Speaker 4: Jerry said, in that press conference. We've been talking about

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Speaker 4: this since the spring. I'm sorry, in the spring, when

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Speaker 4: teams hadn't made their plans yet, hadn't committed money yet.

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Speaker 4: First of all, you traded him to the team that

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Speaker 4: has eliminated you the last three times you've been eliminated

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Speaker 4: from the playoffs. You could have gotten Hi out of

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Speaker 4: the division. How much would the Bills have given you

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Speaker 4: for Mike Parsons? How much would the Bengals have given you?

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Speaker 9: How much with the.

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Speaker 4: Raiders who already said, hey, what about us? Why didn't

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Speaker 4: we get a shot at this?

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Speaker 3: Would the Chiefs have given it a flyer?

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Speaker 14: Why not?

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Speaker 4: At least Green Bay would have had to pay more. Right,

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Speaker 4: even if you had traded to them.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Of all the comps to the Lucas situation, I think

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Speaker 4: this is actually the biggest pump because if the Mavericks

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Speaker 4: had made it known Luke of Nonchens was available, I mean,

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Speaker 4: they got that one first round pick Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 3: So don't forget super Max Christy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah today is.

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Speaker 4: Assive yet and so you know for Cowboys fans, to me,

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Speaker 4: this is the sort of the real ticker and the

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Speaker 4: knife twist is this is what she got back.

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Speaker 2: And Luca and Marka the same age when they were traded. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: are they're gonna have like a thirty for thirty?

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Speaker 3: Does anybody do that?

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Speaker 2: I mean anymore? Is that what I was done?

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Speaker 3: Anyways?

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Speaker 2: Rachel with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks

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Speaker 2: for stopping by the Herd.

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Speaker 5: Line news all right.

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Speaker 2: Earlier in the show, Colt McCoy made a bold prediction

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Speaker 2: Texas by ten. So we got Cardale Jones, the former

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Speaker 2: house Day quarterback, coming up. I'm gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 2: guess he's not backing the long Horns tomorrow.

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Speaker 9: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 9: at noon Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 3: Back here on the Herd final hour.

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Speaker 2: Nearly complete, we have such a great guest, Cardale Jones,

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Speaker 2: legendary Ohio state quarterback, joining us now on the Herd.

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Speaker 3: He obviously led.

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Speaker 2: Them to the national championship at twenty fourteen. A glorious game,

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Speaker 2: Cardelle man, how you doing. I know you're plot fired

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Speaker 2: up about the weekend, but I have to start. I

712
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Speaker 2: got to start with some NFL news. You did play

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. The Micah Parson's trade. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: wind you up. Go your thoughts on the Shaka out

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Speaker 2: of Dallas.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 14: I think this is a prime situation and another example

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Speaker 14: of Jerry Jonelson to get.

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Speaker 12: Out of his own way.

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Speaker 14: I don't know how you trade away such a dominant

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Speaker 14: pass rusher, dominant player not just a game changer, but

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Speaker 14: a game wrecker so early on in his career, and

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Speaker 14: who's continued to get better each and every year.

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Speaker 12: But you know, that's the business side of things.

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Speaker 14: For whatever reason, that's above my pay grades and even

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Speaker 14: understanding COMPREHENDI I'm just seeking as a fan, and I

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Speaker 14: wouldn't say a Dallas Cowboys fan, but just as a football.

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Speaker 12: Fan in general.

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Speaker 14: You see this guy right now making so many plays

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Speaker 14: versus these great quarterbacks in and Daniels right there. I'm

731
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Speaker 14: not getting rid of that until I want him to

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Speaker 14: be a part of my organization.

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Speaker 12: To the wheelis fallall and unfortunately they could come up.

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Speaker 14: To agreement, and now he's going to be a Packer

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Speaker 14: and hopefully Terry Jenson is I'll come back and bite you.

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Speaker 2: But Packers might win the Super Bowl. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: get to the game. Twenty four hours well that is

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Speaker 2: like twenty one hours from now, you get Ohio State

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Speaker 2: hosting the Texas Longhorns.

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Speaker 3: Texas has a new quarterback. His name is Arch Manning.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've heard a lot about him. You've probably

742
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Speaker 2: seen a lot of footage. But I'm just curious, Like,

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Speaker 2: the scene is going to be pretty wild in Ohio,

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Speaker 2: in Columbus. Do you think Arches rattled by this at all?

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Speaker 2: Or being like a veteran, you know, he sat for

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Speaker 2: a few years, he might not be in all of

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Speaker 2: the scene, you know, I don't.

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Speaker 14: I would say rattled, but this is an environment that

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Speaker 14: he never played in before. The few stars that he

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Speaker 14: had last year was definitely versus lesser opponents, was still

751
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Speaker 14: played at a high level, and then the limited actually

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Speaker 14: he saw going into games like A and M like

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Speaker 14: we see this great high I hear in some other

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Speaker 14: great environments.

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Speaker 12: But now you're the guy. You're not coming in for

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Speaker 12: a spark.

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Speaker 14: You're going to be the guy that's gonna take the

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Speaker 14: first snap to the very last nap of the game.

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Speaker 14: How are you going to ride that momentum? How is

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Speaker 14: the environment gonna have an impact on your game? Or

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Speaker 14: you're mentioning things like that, those are questions that steal

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Speaker 14: as un answered right now, so earlier in his career

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Speaker 14: when it comes to his starting taking over his teen

764
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Speaker 14: here at starting quarterback with Texas. I'm excited for both

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Speaker 14: of these young quarterbacks because it's so many unknowns for

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Speaker 14: both of these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's interesting Steve Spurry or Urban Meyer. Several

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Speaker 2: people have now said it like Arch hasn't done anything.

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Speaker 2: What's with this Heisman hype? Why is he the favorite

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Speaker 2: to within the Heisman? Why does every mock draft have

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Speaker 2: him first overall?

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Speaker 3: I don't know you. You're a former quarterback. You see

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Speaker 3: that stuff. Do you have a have a take on

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Speaker 3: on the Arch Maanning hype machine right now?

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Speaker 14: Well, I mean I'm not rijeped on anyone's heype machine

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Speaker 14: unless I can see it for consistently for at least

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Speaker 14: two years, and even if you're the last year. My

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Speaker 14: argument was some of the high bists and this is

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Speaker 14: no knock on RS for Goat. I do think he's

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Speaker 14: going to be a great player. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 14: be one of those caliber players. I don't think I'm

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Speaker 14: ready to crown him that yet. But if he was

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Speaker 14: this good, why did he start last year and that's

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Speaker 14: what all due respect to him and quen Ers and

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Speaker 14: everything Texas got going on. But let this guy grow

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Speaker 14: into that player that we all hope them to be,

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Speaker 14: not just self proclaimed and putting that crown on his head.

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Speaker 14: Already these things for themselves individually more than Arshmanni. But

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Speaker 14: let him go out there and kind of earn those

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Speaker 14: things before we start to kind of get him and

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Speaker 14: piscel him in as the greatest thing since slice bread.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, you were a really great quarterback on the run,

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Speaker 2: I mean from the pocket as well, but at your size,

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Speaker 2: you weren't taking hits that could, you know, knock you down.

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Speaker 2: Archie Manning is not six five, two fifty. He's a big,

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Speaker 2: big kid. But I'm just curious his biggest strength, everybody

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Speaker 2: says is his quickness and running ability. I don't, Ohio

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Speaker 2: State Scott Bumpers, I'm worried. I don't think he's going

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Speaker 2: to be running a lot tomorrow.

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Speaker 12: Right, you know, I don't think so.

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Speaker 14: I don't think you want to expose your quarterback to

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Speaker 14: too many hits, no matter how big or small.

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Speaker 12: They may be.

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Speaker 14: You go back to the playoff game last year, the

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Speaker 14: limited action arche Gott versus the Buckeyes and Cotton Bowl

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Speaker 14: dominant Dallas. He took a big hit in the play

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Speaker 14: that he was in and to me, you as they

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Speaker 14: was replanning to see if it was a fumble or not,

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Speaker 14: you just saw the eyes of Rshton and I'm like,

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Speaker 14: he's stinged up.

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Speaker 12: So I can only imagine that for you know, nine.

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Speaker 14: Or ten more plays if you want to continue to

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Speaker 14: expose him to running the ball.

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Speaker 12: But he's a playmaker though. He's a guy that takes it.

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Speaker 14: Haven't had in a lone time, who can really pull

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Speaker 14: the ball down and be a run threat. And also

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Speaker 14: Stee you'd like to dial up some design quarterback Ronstus

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Speaker 14: because they take advantage of his athletic A busy outside

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Speaker 14: that great army.

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Speaker 3: As all right, let me talk Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: So Jeremiah Smith won catch for three yards in last

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Speaker 2: year's meeting. They clearly would like, we got to shut

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Speaker 2: this guy down. Let's stop him. I think he had

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Speaker 2: just cooked Orgon in the last week prior. Do you

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Speaker 2: anticipate them doing something similar in saying, hey, beat us anyway,

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Speaker 2: except with Jeremisman.

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Speaker 12: I think that's a good way.

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Speaker 14: To start to plan for the buck guys, because if

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Speaker 14: you don't understand and know and have a plan for everywhere,

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Speaker 14: number four it's going to be. I think you're gonna

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Speaker 14: set yourself up to have a long, long day on

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Speaker 14: the back end and a long day on defense. They

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Speaker 14: even got him the ball a few times in the

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Speaker 14: run game last year. But I think you look at

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Speaker 14: Ohios taking places Lego Ohio State. Even if you find

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Speaker 14: a way to limit or eliminate their number one threat

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Speaker 14: when it comes to the offense or weapons, they got

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Speaker 14: other weapons that can beat you.

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Speaker 12: You look at the tight end.

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Speaker 14: Max Clayer who's coming over from Purdue protected the number

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Speaker 14: one tight end going into this year's upcoming NFL Draft.

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Speaker 14: After this season, then Cardinal Tate, Brandan Innis and the

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Speaker 14: list goes on as playmakers for Ohio State. So they're

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Speaker 14: in a great position if you want to try to

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Speaker 14: focus much of your energy on Jeremiah Smith. They got

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Speaker 14: other guys. You can look up and they be over

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Speaker 14: one hundred yards receiving and they clearly breaking.

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Speaker 12: There some new running backs.

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Speaker 2: That also all right, so Cardeal Earlier we had Colt

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Speaker 2: McCoy on the Texas Legend. He gave us a prediction

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Speaker 2: on the game and he's got this little video for you.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: We do have Cardale Jones on the show a little

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Speaker 2: later on Ohio State quarterback obviously won a national championship.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any message for him? Perhaps and we

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Speaker 2: could play it for him. Do you want to get

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Speaker 2: the trash talk started? The floor is yours?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Texas by sen how about that Cardell.

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Speaker 2: Surprise me Texas by that would be I think that

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Speaker 2: would be a stunner.

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Speaker 3: But go ahead, let's hear it.

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Speaker 14: You know what, Cole, I'm gonna say my trash talk

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Speaker 14: for later, and we got Vince Young actually on our

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Speaker 14: show d script OSU here.

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Speaker 12: In the Kila hours and back Brown.

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Speaker 14: So I'm gonna be talking to some crap, but come

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Speaker 14: letting you know right now, ain't no way at heck.

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Speaker 14: Texas leaving Columbus Ohio victorious, so I ain't too sure

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Speaker 14: about the score yet, but long as they leave with

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Speaker 14: the biggest.

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Speaker 2: Thing and that's that l Yeah, I mean it feels

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Speaker 2: like you're right, Ohio State should handle them.

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Speaker 7: I do.

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Speaker 2: Colacoy made a good point, though, you know, four new

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Speaker 2: offensive linemen for Texas not ideal protecting arch Man and

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Speaker 2: you're a huge investment.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I totally agree.

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Speaker 14: But you look on the other side of the ball

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Speaker 14: as well, Hobb State, you got a lot of guys

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Speaker 14: shuffled around and play some different positions and off with

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Speaker 14: a line position as well, potentially two new starting transferred tackles,

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Speaker 14: and then breaking in some young guys with some experience

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Speaker 14: from last year as well, going against Colin Simmons and

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Speaker 14: at great Front seven Texas has so I think that's

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Speaker 14: really more at a storyline for me personally. We talk

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Speaker 14: about arts, we talked about Julia Sanine and Jeremy Smith,

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Speaker 14: Caleb Downson rightfully so. But the battle is going to

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Speaker 14: be one I think up front for new office alignment

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Speaker 14: for Texas and Ohio State's breaking in a whole new

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Speaker 14: front seven with guys like Rvel recent Sunny Styles taking

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Speaker 14: over new starting roles predominantly at the linebacker position, and

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Speaker 14: new guys like C. J. Higgs taking over at a

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Speaker 14: completely new position at that rush.

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Speaker 2: The end of Cardale Jones National Championship winning quarterback also

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Speaker 2: quarterback for the Buffalo Bills. Thanks a lot, man and

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Speaker 2: good luck with Vince Young and keep up the good

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Speaker 2: work there, buddy.

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Speaker 12: Appreciate thanks for having me, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, Cardale jones A. I mean he'll never pay

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Speaker 2: for a drink, maybe not even a meal in Columbus

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Speaker 2: after winning that national championship, Rachel, do you.

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Speaker 3: Have a score prediction for the game yet? We need

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Speaker 3: exactly you said?

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Speaker 4: You said thirty twenty eight No.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I said twenty seven thirteen, twenty seven thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it must be more. I think there's gonna be

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Speaker 4: more scoring than that. Oh, yeah, we need I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to will it into existence.

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Speaker 3: We need it like an actual.

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Speaker 4: I don't gamble the way you do, so I don't

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Speaker 4: project score.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, all right, Hey, it was a

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Speaker 2: great week, Rachel's debut on the show, a major hit,

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Speaker 2: just outstanding content. You know, you willed the Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: engagement wearing red that ray color that day.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, we will be back next week.

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Speaker 12: See y