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Speaker 1: Welcome to OTP number nine, the Official Titans Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Mike Keith. As usual, Amy Wells is here.

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Speaker 1: Hey Mike, how are you fabulous? How are you well?

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Speaker 1: We're recording this on Wednesday afternoon, April the twenty fifth.

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Speaker 1: You were on your way to Dallas for the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: I am in a few short hours. I'm hitting the

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Speaker 1: sky and hopefully coming back with a new player. And

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Speaker 1: hopefully the Titans player will be in Dallas. Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: I hope so I have my fingers and toes crossed

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Speaker 1: that he will be there. Jim Wyatt does as well.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's a big show because the great

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Speaker 1: Jim Wyatt is back with us on the OTP. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the program. Appreciate you guys, have me on

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Speaker 1: here and you're on your way to Dallas. That's rod.

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Speaker 1: It's been great in the last couple of years. I know, Amy,

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Speaker 1: Ashley and I we're all there. You know, we saw

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Speaker 1: Jack Coughlin him across the stage talk to him after

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Speaker 1: he was off the stage first and then last year

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Speaker 1: obviously Corey Davis, then a Dory Jackson talking to him,

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Speaker 1: and you know, on the steps in Philadelphia and then

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Speaker 1: flying back with all three of those players was pretty cool. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, I know Amy and I've talked about

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Speaker 1: this that Now will the player be in Dallas that

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Speaker 1: the Titans pick, We'll see. There's a lot of uncertainty

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Speaker 1: head in this draft. Will will John Robinson move up?

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Speaker 1: Will he move back? Will he take a guy that's

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Speaker 1: It's it's uh, I don't think John Robinson knows at

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Speaker 1: this point because you just don't know when you're picking

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Speaker 1: at twenty five. How many drafts have you covered in person?

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Speaker 1: Just too Yeah, just the same Ralphia in Chicago since

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Speaker 1: you joined the team, right and uh and and to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I mean, I think you know

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Speaker 1: at the Tennessee And it's not that they were cheap

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Speaker 1: and didn't want to send you to the draft. It's

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Speaker 1: just so much happens here. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people assume that you know, John Robinson, you know Mike Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: you know the team is in Dallas. Reality is, those

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Speaker 1: guys are all here, this is headquarters. Most stuff happens here.

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Speaker 1: But it is a home run when you're working with

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Speaker 1: the team and you can't get access to these guys

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Speaker 1: before anybody else. Obviously the Marcus Mariota draft. He watched

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Speaker 1: the draft in Hawaii. They're being a lot of drafts

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Speaker 1: where players aren't there, and uh, you know, those guys

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Speaker 1: John Robbins will have press conferences after they're pick. There's

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Speaker 1: so there's a lot that happens here. But it's sure

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Speaker 1: it's nice to be there and get first access to

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Speaker 1: those guys, you know, if they are there after being picked.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't always happen. The Browns had was it,

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Speaker 1: three picks in the first round last year, No, none

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Speaker 1: of them were there. Yeah, so that can happen. Kind

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Speaker 1: They probably will not be o for three this year.

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Speaker 1: I think they're both of their first round picks are

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Speaker 1: the team. Joey Baranco from the equipment staff. Anthony Pastrana,

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Speaker 1: Puffer is there from media relations amy. Outside of that,

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Speaker 1: that's it from the team to Jim's point, everybody else

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Speaker 1: of fomo fear of missing out. You know, you feel

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Speaker 1: I mean that Dallas has been challenged. They've got a

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Speaker 1: All right, I want to ask you guys this draft question.

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Speaker 1: Player that is going to get picked a lot higher

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Speaker 1: the experts have down in the twenties, maybe even out

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Speaker 1: not sure what the final consensus is on where Baker

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Speaker 1: and which no one would have predicted. You know, when

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Speaker 1: be Baker Mayfield as well. I think that you're going

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Speaker 1: Yes or no? Does he go one to Cleveland? Yes

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. He's similar to Johnny

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the top five Jim Wyatt, Yes, No, really,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so. Yes or no. Quarterbacks go one, two,

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Speaker 1: ninety nine, Amy wells, Yes, no, No, I think Barkeley's

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Speaker 1: Barkeley goes two to the Giants, unless Baker Mayfield goes one.

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Speaker 1: Because at that point, do the Giants say, well, we

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Speaker 1: thought Sam Darnald was gonna go number one, and now

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Speaker 1: I think the Giants. I talked with someone who knows

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Speaker 1: Dave Getleman well, and he made very clear to me

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Speaker 1: that Gettelman values the surest thing in this position. The

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Speaker 1: last time the Giants picked number two in the NFL draft,

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Speaker 1: Jim Wyatt, any idea who they selected, I can't pull it.

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Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor nineteen eighty one. He played thirteen years, He

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Speaker 1: to be a home run. Well, and that's what they

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Speaker 1: during the team period, right yep, So so it's there's

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Speaker 1: a there's a different feel certainly, but we're just two

428
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Speaker 1: days in, so there'll be some other things that will

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Speaker 1: come to the surface between now and camp. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: Let me explain the music. They play music while the

431
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Speaker 1: number one offense is going against the number one defense

432
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Speaker 1: or the number two defense. Based on I guess they

433
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Speaker 1: want that noise to make communication hard also, I guess

434
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Speaker 1: to amp up the guys whatever, but it is a change,

435
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Speaker 1: all right, Amy, Well, same question to you. Anything immediately

436
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: different about a Mike Vrabel practice that has jumped out

437
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Speaker 1: to you so far. I noticed the tempo as well.

438
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Speaker 1: It seems as though they are very intentionally preparing for

439
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: the speed of a game. They are moving, moving, moving.

440
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: Everything is run, run to the sidelines, run to the

441
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, run to the huddle. They it's very

442
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Speaker 1: obvious that they are preparing for something. They are preparing

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Speaker 1: for the speed of a game. And I'm gonna say

444
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Speaker 1: one more. I mean, the obvious answer the difference between

445
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Speaker 1: last year's practice and this year is is Mike Vrabel.

446
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big, a different Mike. But he's

447
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he's very active, he's very you know, involved,

448
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna spread himself around. You know, he talked about

449
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Speaker 1: spending a lot of time with the linebackers in the

450
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Speaker 1: first day. But you can tell he's going to make

451
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Speaker 1: a big effort to be involved in practices. We've seen

452
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Speaker 1: him at these pro days. Grab a bag and get

453
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Speaker 1: in it. I think that's what he's gonna do here.

454
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Speaker 1: And I think he's going to you know, he's gonna

455
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Speaker 1: send messages, you know, during practice, you know when they

456
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Speaker 1: review practice on film. And I think, these guys, you

457
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: have to respect a guy like this. This guy was

458
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: just in the league, not that long ago. He can

459
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Speaker 1: relate to these guys and they and they know it.

460
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Speaker 1: Is there an assistant coach amy that has already gotten

461
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Speaker 1: your attention. Oh my gosh. I spent all of today

462
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Speaker 1: watching coach Combs, Kerry Combs secondary coach. He doesn't stop.

463
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Speaker 1: The man does not quit. We had heard all offseason

464
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Speaker 1: that he's a really animated coach. He's really excited and

465
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Speaker 1: he really gets into it with players. Holy smokes, he

466
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: was more animated than I even thought that he was

467
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Speaker 1: going to be. But not like crazy, Oh no, not crazy.

468
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: He's excited, right, He's passionate. He wants to help these guys.

469
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: He wants them to do something. He's very technique specific,

470
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: very very minute details. He'll stop a guy and then

471
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Speaker 1: he'll show them how to do it. And he's making

472
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Speaker 1: big gestures and he's yelling the entire time, not in

473
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Speaker 1: a scary, crazy way, in a helpful way. But wowsers.

474
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Speaker 1: He held my attention for easily fifteen minutes. He is

475
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Speaker 1: fun to watch it. He does get your attention, I

476
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Speaker 1: think more than anybody out there. I guess I'm gonna

477
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: say behind Kerry as far as and I will say

478
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Speaker 1: from a noise factor, I'm not really We obviously Knowneice

479
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: has seen Keith Carter work on a practice field, but

480
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Speaker 1: I have to say he's kind of got my attention

481
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Speaker 1: to just how vocal he is. And you know, I've

482
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Speaker 1: been around some offensive line coaches, whether it was Munchak

483
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 1: or Bruce Matthews, Russ Grimm last year, those guys are

484
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: usually pretty low key. And uh, you know, I heard

485
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: Quarter around his players teaching, getting involved, trying to get

486
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: his point across. He kind of jumped out out at

487
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Speaker 1: me a little bit. The coaching staff is made up

488
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Speaker 1: of men who were part of thirteen different football staffs

489
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Speaker 1: a year ago. That's NFL staffs, that's college staffs, that's

490
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Speaker 1: even a high school staff. And yet there appears to

491
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Speaker 1: be tremendous cohesion. It looks like the clean operation that

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel wanted. What jumps out to you, Jim as

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Speaker 1: a reason or reasons that there has already been so

494
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Speaker 1: much appearance of cohesion with this staff. I think Mike Vrabel,

495
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Speaker 1: you know, in searching to put his staff together, I

496
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: think he looked for guys with a similar mindset and

497
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Speaker 1: there was an understanding going in, this is a way

498
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. I mean, he interviewed a number

499
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Speaker 1: of players, I'm sorry, a number of coaches at each

500
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Speaker 1: position before he decided on guys. And I think he

501
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Speaker 1: decided on him because he did feel like they were

502
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: gonna be some cohesiveness there, that they would work well

503
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Speaker 1: with one another. And I think just to work, you know,

504
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: between that and just spending the last three months getting

505
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: on the same page, I think that's kind of what

506
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: has led us to where we are today. That's what

507
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: I was going to say. You have to realize from

508
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: the time that they were all hired as a coaching staff,

509
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: they have been grinding. It's not they have not taken

510
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 1: this offseason as a time to kind of ease into things,

511
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: and they started working full days right away, so they've

512
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: had a lot of time to get on the same

513
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: page and get to know one another. Whether it's at

514
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: the combine or a pro days on the road, or

515
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: just being in the office. They're putting in full days already,

516
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: and even Mike Vrabel has said he has to remind

517
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: himself and his staff that it's not football time yet.

518
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: We need to make sure that we don't go too

519
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: hard too soon. But they've still been going pretty hard,

520
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: and so I think we're starting to see that out

521
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: on the football field, that these guys are very clearly

522
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: on the same page. For Marcus Mariota, the one constant

523
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: in his three years with the Titans has been Jason Michael,

524
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Speaker 1: either as his offensive coordinator, his quarterback coach. He's always

525
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: sort of had his life revolve around Jason Michael. Jason

526
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: Michael is not here anymore, and now it's a quarterback

527
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: coach in Pat O'Hara who comes from Houston, and Matt Lafleur,

528
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator who also focuses heavily on quarterbacks. Matt

529
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Speaker 1: and Pat, as Mike Vrabel called them today, How have

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Speaker 1: you noticed Jim Marcus Mariota's interaction with Matt and Pat

531
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: so far, knowing that it's something very different for him, Yeah,

532
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: I think it's good. I mean, I think they've got

533
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: similar in. Matt's personality is a little bit more low key,

534
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: a little bit quieter. I think he's a good match

535
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: for Marcus Mariota. I think those guys have been able

536
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: to spend some time over the last couple of weeks

537
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: to get to know each other. It's a process. Marcus

538
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: said it himself and he said, Hey, you have to

539
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: learn new coaches. You're gonna have to learn new terminology,

540
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to learn new teammates. Are just enough

541
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: early stages of that happening. But I think both those

542
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: guys arrived with great credentials, good track record with working

543
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: with other quarterbacks in the past. I think it's gonna

544
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: be a great, you know, situation for the offense and

545
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: for Mariota moving forward. Amy Wells true or false, Marcus

546
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: Mariota looks better right now than he did at any

547
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: point during the twenty seventeen season. I would say true.

548
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: Talking physically, of course, yes, I would say true. He

549
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: looks he looks like he's had a healthy offseason to

550
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: actually focus on football it. He's moving around super well.

551
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: We've seen him do some things that we're like, oh, yeah, hey,

552
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: Marcus twenty sixteen Marcus, h Yeah, He's he's moving around

553
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: like a guy who is ready to go, and that's

554
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: really exciting to see this time of year. Yeah, and

555
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: he talked about that today and meeting with the reporters

556
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: after practice, just thinking about how far he's come in

557
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: the past year. This time last year, obviously there was

558
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: not a volunteering mini camp in April, but he was.

559
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have been able to be out here on

560
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: the field doing that. He was very limited in the

561
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: offseason work at the very beginning. Eased himself back into

562
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: it during the course of May and June, and it

563
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: was until training camp in August before we really saw

564
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Speaker 1: him turn it loose and run and and then even then,

565
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: you did it hold your breath a little bit, and

566
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Speaker 1: I think he probably was still testing it out physically

567
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: and in the back of his mind also realizing, Okay,

568
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: this is another hurdle of cross Now he has no limitations.

569
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: You can tell he's just kind of letting loose and playing.

570
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: And uh, he's gonna benefit from from Dion Lewis being

571
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: on this football team. He's gonna benefit from, you know,

572
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: from Corey Davis having another year under his belt, and uh,

573
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna benefit from a Matte Lafloor offense

574
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: is going to allow him to do more things himself.

575
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Speaker 1: Give me a thumbnail of what you think Corey Davis

576
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: looks like right now. And talking about guys look better

577
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: than they did all last year, He's definitely one of them.

578
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel bad for Cordy Dave last year.

579
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: He goes through the circuit of getting ready for the draft,

580
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: he was injured through that process. He finally gets here.

581
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, never really was quite himself, you know, hurt,

582
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: the hamstring, came back, got hurt again. I think he

583
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: was thinking too much when he was out there. Now

584
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: he looks like a guy who's who's healthy. He looks faster,

585
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: looks like he's not overwhelmed with what's going through his mind.

586
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: And you know, he looks really good to me. Let's

587
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: go through a few of the new guys. Dion Lewis

588
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: running back from the New England Patriots, sharing snaps with

589
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: Derek Henry in the minicamp. Baby, Wells, what do you see?

590
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: I knew he was fast. I'd seen him on tape,

591
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 1: we had played against him. He's faster than I even

592
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: remembered or had seen. It's bananas the things that he's

593
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: able to just make happen because he can use that

594
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: speed and he's so shifty. Guy can get through anywhere.

595
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: Were you surprised about his size, yes? Or lack thereof? Oh? Yeah,

596
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: he's a tiny guy. Yeah, I mean, which I think

597
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: is to our benefit. I saw him do some things

598
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: today where he just put his head down and duck

599
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: right under someone trying to make a tackle. I mean,

600
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: I think that size works in his favor and works

601
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: into his game and the way that he plays. But yeah,

602
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: he is not a tall man. Calfani Mohammad is listed

603
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: at five seven and Dion Lewis is listed at five eight.

604
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: No chance saw him side by side. I think Califani's

605
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: got him by Well, maybe Califani group got him by here.

606
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: Maybe that's true. Maybe he has grown a little bit,

607
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: but he's young. He could still be growing. But it's

608
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: funny last year at this time or after not this

609
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: time because we've not had the draft yet. But when

610
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Mohammad joined the team, I took a picture of Derrick

611
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: Henry standing extra Califani Mohammed and the size difference incredible.

612
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: I took one of those pictures today with Derrick Henry

613
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: standing next to Dean Lewis and tweeted out and the

614
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: comments off the charts, just on the difference in those

615
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: two guys that play the same position. But Lewis gets

616
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: lost in the rout and in the middle of the

617
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: fray and he you know, and he's talking about his

618
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: speed and how quick he is, and he is, but

619
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: he's also one of these guys that can bounce and

620
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: bounce out of trouble and bounce through a hole. And

621
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: he's a hard guy to handle, and especially when he's

622
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: in attained with Derrick Henry, who's gonna gonna lower the

623
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: boom on you. Let's talk about wide receiver. Michael Campagnero

624
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: comes from Baltimore. What have you seen from him so far? Jim, Yeah,

625
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: he's one of the guys I've been curious about because

626
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: he had some production in Baltimore. Obviously, comes here known

627
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: mostly as a return man. I think he's going to

628
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: give him more at the receiver position than Eric Williams did.

629
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: Eric Williams didn't get a lot of opportunity to do that, obviously,

630
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: but I think he gives you a little bit more

631
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: juice at that position. He's got really good hands. Just

632
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: watching him and some of the plays that he was

633
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: able to make happen, and obviously it's still incredibly early,

634
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: but he made some catches that were impressive to me,

635
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: and I think that he's going to, as Jim was saying,

636
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: contribute a little bit more at the receiver position than

637
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: Williams was able to do last year. But don't you think,

638
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: both of you that if he becomes the punt returner,

639
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: the primary punt returner, and then you could use a

640
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: Dory Jackson in certain situations. You could bring him in

641
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: to run back a kick at the end of a game,

642
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: or at the end of a half, or in just

643
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: a critical situation. Knowing how many snaps a Dory has

644
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: to play at corner, how many snaps you want him

645
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: to play at corner? Be great flexibility? Oh absolutely, it

646
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: opens things up a little bit so that there's not

647
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: I mean, because a Door's doing things on offense every

648
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: now and then too, So that's an incredible workload for him.

649
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: Someone who's able to come in take that initial workload

650
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: off of him with the return job is great. But

651
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: then someone who can get in for a couple of

652
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: offensive snaps too, you've been better. Yeah, I'm curiously how

653
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: that plays out. I mean, the whole returning game and

654
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: just and the numbers at receiver, because we're looking at

655
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: what seven right now on the rollster right that number

656
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: is going to grow? What's it gonna be up to

657
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen by the Tom Camp starts. Some of them

658
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: may come in the draft, some may come obviously, some

659
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: will come as undrafted free agents. Will there be another

660
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: secondary wave of uh, you know in free agency that

661
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: could bring a receiver. We'll see, but that number going

662
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: to come close to doubling. Malcolm Butler the big name

663
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: free agent because of all the controversy due to the

664
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and all that happened. What kind of versatility

665
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: can you also see that he is going to allow

666
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: the Titans in carrycomb secondary? Yeah, I mean he can

667
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: line up, you know, his presence can allow Logan Ryan

668
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: to do different things, can allow Dewey Jackson to do

669
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: different things. Malcolm Butler obviously can do different things himself.

670
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got good numbers at that position. I

671
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: look at those three and then I look at you know,

672
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: Lashawn Simms and Ty Smith, guys who were in the

673
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: phrase some last year. Now, those guys are pretty quality.

674
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: I think they're quality back up players. So his team

675
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: now is at a great and a great position at

676
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: that position. Malcolm Butler isn't. I feel like I'm saying

677
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: that everyone is really fast, So maybe I'm just exciting

678
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: that football is back. But Malcolm Butler can run, you

679
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: can really run. He has been able to stick with

680
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: every single person that I've seen him go up against,

681
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: and if not have a step on them, he's He's

682
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: doing a great job so far. I'm excited to see

683
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: him keep going. Has the battle at left guard started yet?

684
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: I think it started, but I don't think it's even

685
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: work close. I mean, you know, we're going to see

686
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: all those guys probably rotate in and it's you know,

687
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: it's a group that has Josh Klein resigned obviously, Quentin

688
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: Spain is back, Kevin Pamfield, uh, you know, Xavier Suaphilo.

689
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: All those guys are going to be working at a

690
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: number of positions and I think they'll have a chance

691
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: to impress during the course of the offseason. And I

692
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: don't think the real battle starts until the pads come

693
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: on and really just to see who has progressed further

694
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: by the time camp gets here. All right, So let's

695
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: have a little fun as we wind down this edition

696
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Speaker 1: of the OTP. Amy Wells your first, give me two

697
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: returning guys that the staff is looking to see improvement

698
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: from as the as these practices start. Kevin Dodd Number one. Oh,

699
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: that's a good one. I think, well, he looks the part.

700
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, He's just built so magnificently, and he

701
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: has the athleticism. You just want to see him put

702
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: it all together. And I think, I mean, Mike Rabel

703
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: has said that Kevin Dodd is his project, so I

704
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: think that he's going to be one to watch. And

705
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: I think Taywan Taylor's the other one. I think Taiwan

706
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: kind of got lost in the shuffle a little bit

707
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: towards the end of last season, and some things weren't

708
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: clicking for him. So I think that everyone's watching to

709
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: see where he makes the most improvement or if he does.

710
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: Two good ones. Jim, Yeah, I must see her too,

711
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: Kevin Dodd and Taywan Taylor. I'm a writer a John

712
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: ou Smith. I did have to Dodd and Taylor written

713
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: down his mind as well, So I'm just gonna add

714
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: John U to that list. I think he obviously overshadowed

715
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: by Delaney Walker at that position. But I thought when

716
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: he played, he played well, you know he's now he's

717
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: had an offseason to to work and concentrate, you know,

718
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: just on football. Uh you know that that's somebody who

719
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm anxious to see what his second year looks like.

720
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: I'll give you another one, Austin Johnson. Yes, in the

721
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: defensive line. We've seen de Quan Jones improved so much

722
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: through his career, and Austin has had the same sort

723
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: of arc and at the end of last year he

724
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: was playing good football. If he keeps going up in

725
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: the way that de Quon has, I think he could

726
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: give them a lot in the defensive line and would

727
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: be a very exciting player to be able to pair

728
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: with with dea Quon and with uh Skinny Jirell Casey.

729
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: His lower body is incredible, just how Finny is and uh,

730
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: you know he's still stout, you know above the waist,

731
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: but but you know below the waist, he's he's definitely

732
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't have much of a waste anymore. He doesn't,

733
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: but that allows to be explosive. You have a strong uptop,

734
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: but he's got the explosion and quickness from his from

735
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: his feet. He's always been quick though man Terrell Casey

736
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: can move weight around like I've never seen all Right,

737
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: Jim White, give me an underrated returnee. Well, Austin Johnson.

738
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I did have written written down there, so I've got

739
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: kind of high expectations for him. I've got two guys

740
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: on that list. I think Jonathan Cyprian is one, just

741
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: because I thought he ended the season so well after

742
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: missing a good chunk with an injury, and I thought

743
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: he obviously showed up with a big play against Kansas

744
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: City and made some big plays down the stretch. I

745
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: think Cyprian is underrated, should be better in year two. Here.

746
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: I've got Aaron Wallace written down to more. I will

747
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: say he's underrated because he really hasn't He's still got

748
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: a lot to proof because he hasn't been able to

749
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: stay healthy. But I think he has flashed. So I

750
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that I'm at least watching and

751
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: I think has the potential to make some noise just

752
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: because of his versatility. Did Jim take yours Aimy? He

753
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: didn't know? Um. One of mine is David Flewellen. I

754
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: think that he is going to give people a run

755
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: for their money because I think he's a run for

756
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: their money. Thanks for picking up on that. But I

757
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: think he's fighting for a spot in this offense, and

758
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: I think that he's going to rise to the occasion

759
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: as we've seen him do from time to time. And

760
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: I think that bringing back Josh Klein is huge for

761
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: this team. I think his versatility is not unnoticed by

762
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: me um and I think that that's going to be

763
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: a huge tool that we're going to be able to

764
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: use throughout the season. Minds Luke Stocker, Ah, he's yeah,

765
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: he's I think he's obviously rov Lat has a chance

766
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: to settle in and U and make an impact as well. Oh,

767
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: play fullback, play the h play the online tight end,

768
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: um catch the ball better than you think he does.

769
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: I just think he is a versatile, winning type player

770
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: in an offense that wants to be very versatile. And

771
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that this team is going to be

772
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: in a lot of three tight ends. Yeah, I don't

773
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: even know if they're going to be in a lot

774
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: of technical two tight ends because if Stocker lines up

775
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: in the backfield, he's obviously not a tight end, but

776
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: he is big, I mean, and the Titans missed that

777
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: until they got him having that big, nasty, almost third

778
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, tight blocking tight end. Yeah, I'm with you,

779
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: and I certainly think yeah, I think he is going

780
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: to benefit, no question, from having the entire offseason here,

781
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: getting on the same page with the coaches. It which

782
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: something he didn't have the benefit of last year. We've

783
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: got a lot more to do on the OTP coming

784
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: up in the next few weeks. Obviously, we're going to

785
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: review the draft. We're going to talk about a lot

786
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: of things that probably happened between now and next Wednesday,

787
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: when we're scheduled to record again. And both of you,

788
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: thanks for joining me, and enjoy your trip to Arlington, Texas.

789
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: Should you have been looking forward to it. I know

790
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: we got to get back to the war room here, uh,

791
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, before the day ends. I'm kidding there. Yeah,

792
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: there's a Doberman. It's ever been in the war room.

793
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: I've been in there when there's nothing, when it's when

794
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: it's a blank wall. I guess there's probably some point

795
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: after the draft when there's nothing. I got invited in

796
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: there for the first time last offseason and there was

797
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: nothing on the war but I had never actually even

798
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: been in the room. Okay, nineteen years being in this building.

799
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: I had never been in the room, but somebody said,

800
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: let's talk in here, and I'm like, am I allowed

801
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: to go in there? And there was nothing on the wall.

802
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: They were painting the wall. There's like nineteen different locks

803
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: to get through that door. It's really impressive. Yeah, it's funny.

804
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: I think I walked in there, like you said, when

805
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: there was nothing on the wall, and maybe right after

806
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: I had did you think I don't know what was

807
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: in there? But I know I walked in and a

808
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: couple of scouts in there right after I had been high,

809
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: and they were kind of showing me around. Obviously they

810
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: would have shown me that place if they had names

811
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: up there. But some scouts where they're like, what the

812
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: heck this guy doing in here? You know how we're

813
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: letting them in here, but uh, you know it's certainly

814
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: a place that's uh. When I walked by that area,

815
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: I don't even try to take a quick peek. You

816
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: don't want to know, No, you don't want to know.

817
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: And John, I mean John obviously asked us not to

818
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: reveal the pick here on the podcast. That's right, because

819
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: actually the draft was last week. They've already made the pick. Yeah,

820
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: the draft, all two hundred and fifty six picks have

821
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: already been made. What's gonna happen Thursday, Friday and Saturday prescripted?

822
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: Somebody will believe that if only that were true. Well,

823
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: we love Draft weekend, all of us do, and we're

824
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: gonna carry it for you on Titans Radio the first

825
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: in the second round throughout, and we're looking forward to

826
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: having that and looking forward to hearing what you guys

827
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: uncover in Dallas because I know they're always good stories,

828
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: especially with Titans fans, Titans season ticket members being able

829
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: to go, so good stuff. I'm glad that you'll be

830
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: able to be there and we'll have a great time

831
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: at the draft party in the Sun Stadium. I'm eating

832
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: barbecue the whole time. I might not even go to

833
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: the draft. I'm just eating. It's funny, though, you know,

834
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: there's so much build up for Thursday for the first round,

835
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: but when we get back here on Friday morning, that's

836
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: that's really when the when the draft started. That's the Fridays,

837
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, you've got more action and then Saturday's a grind.

838
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, the meat of the draft is

839
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: obviously Friday and Saturday. That's one. It'll be crazy here

840
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: going from pick uh, you know, to press conference to

841
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: conference call and then seeing how this thing comes together.

842
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: The first NFL draft was nineteen thirty six. Jay Berwanger

843
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: went number one from the University of Chicago. He was

844
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: a halfback. Since that time, thirty three quarterbacks have gone

845
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: number one overall. I think Thursday night we're gonna have

846
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: thirty four. I think that's a good bed. I think

847
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: it's I would have thought that number would have actually

848
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: been higher, but of course you did for many years.

849
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: I guess you didn't have a quarterback in every offense.

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Speaker 1: Some still use the half back in the single wing,

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Speaker 1: but it is It is a time where quarterbacks are

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Speaker 1: valued and people say, well you, why don't you find

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Speaker 1: a Tom Brady in the sixth round. Well, you'd sooner

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Speaker 1: find a needle in a haystack. If you're going to

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Speaker 1: find a quarterback, your best odds are in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Jim why, Amy Wells, Mike Keith, thanks for listening to

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