WEBVTT - “I’M GIVING UP THE PARTY LIFE”

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<v Speaker 1>It was this.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>Ellis?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is this Ellie? Ellis Islands?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? How you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been to Ellis Islands?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is this?

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<v Speaker 2>It's what you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you imagined what your life might be like if

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<v Speaker 4>you asked less questions and went with the flow more often?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I think I know

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<v Speaker 3>who what it is? Actually?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you want? Bro?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait? You think you know who this is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I got a pretty good guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh you're probably my friend Vinnie. Bro, he's in a

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<v Speaker 3>different fucking number. Where'd that take with?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro?

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<v Speaker 2>Vinnie? Tell me more about your friend Vinnie.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a good dude.

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<v Speaker 3>He's funny as fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Where'd you and Vinnie meet? I'm calling him back?

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<v Speaker 6>Yo, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 3>Dude? Who the fuck is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro?

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's the Gecko guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh ship, it's Kyle.

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<v Speaker 2>H Lyle, But either way it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo Lyle.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry, Bro, I thought it was somebody cranking. Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's Vinnie? Tell me about Vinnie?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Bro, my friend Vinnie. He's a cool dude. Bro, He's

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<v Speaker 3>from South Florida like me, Dude. He likes to do

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<v Speaker 3>these things bro, where he like uses AI to like

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<v Speaker 3>uh train like where models and then he'll like he'll

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<v Speaker 3>like create ais for like different people and then he'll

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<v Speaker 3>do like crazy shit to them, bro. Like this one

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<v Speaker 3>that he had was of President Biden, and he like

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<v Speaker 3>kept Biden in like this like underground bunker and shit. Bro,

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<v Speaker 3>it was super weird.

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<v Speaker 4>He he AI trained a Joe Biden voice to like

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<v Speaker 4>pretend he was in a bunker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But he like he like kept him in a basement.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah bro, and he would like fuck with him and

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<v Speaker 3>be like, bro, do you want to get out of

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<v Speaker 3>the basement? And I and like all this stupid shit.

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<v Speaker 2>So wait, how do you know Vinnie H?

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<v Speaker 3>I know Vinnie from partying Delray.

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<v Speaker 2>Partying in del Rey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Bro, we have a good bar scene out here, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just met him one night do him Ustual?

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You seem like you've got an interesting life. Ellis. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>excited to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bro, I need to talk to you, man.

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<v Speaker 1>B bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, it's just been crazy in my life and I

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<v Speaker 3>need to get it off my chest.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, I have I actually have a few more questions

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<v Speaker 4>about that. He like, okay, so did you think I

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<v Speaker 4>was like an ai voice of some kind?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I thought that maybe he was messing with me,

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<v Speaker 3>because I remember I texted you earlier, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>realize that you could get back to me so quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like the second time I try to get on.

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<v Speaker 2>So, like, have you ever have you been the victim

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<v Speaker 2>of many prank calls?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, actually a couple of times?

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<v Speaker 4>And what what was the uh prank behind?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the prank behind the call?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean this time, bro, Okay, so I knew

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<v Speaker 3>these two chicks, bro, and I guess they didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>something who they were, but I must have known them

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<v Speaker 3>in real life. And so they called me and like sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>messing with me a ship And I seriously, like to

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<v Speaker 3>this day don't know who those two people were, because

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's like messing with me.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get into it. Why do you what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wait? Real quid? Hold on, man? Where are you

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<v Speaker 2>right now?

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm hearing like the whizzing of of cars and nots?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm I'm actually back on my way to back

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<v Speaker 3>to my crib right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I went yeah, So so what is your life problem?

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<v Speaker 4>You seem like you have a good life. I'm curious

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<v Speaker 4>what's going wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I do bro I thinks are pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Things have been like kind of weird recently for me,

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<v Speaker 3>So like, are you live right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Can I call you back?

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<v Speaker 2>I I mean, we can talk now if you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, because yeah, I'm going I'm like two minutes away

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<v Speaker 3>from my crib.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine, Okay, So okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I started into therapy right probably like two years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>This girl that I was seeing I really liked because

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<v Speaker 3>I thought she was really hot, and we ended up

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<v Speaker 3>hooking up and she got pregnant. So after that, I

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<v Speaker 3>got like really really upset by my life because I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of felt like, I don't know, like I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was a good opportunity for me to be like

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<v Speaker 3>I could definitely mature out of the situation, but she

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<v Speaker 3>definitely didn't want to have kids. So like that ended

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<v Speaker 3>up me leading to like drinking, and then eventually I

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<v Speaker 3>had to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to therapy.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I went to therapy, they got me to

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<v Speaker 3>quit smoking weed because I spoke sweet for like a

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<v Speaker 3>long time, man, Like I spoke sweet since I was

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<v Speaker 3>like thirteen years old fifteen, I started like chronically using

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<v Speaker 3>like every single day. So I quit at twenty six,

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<v Speaker 3>and like it's just been like a hell but a

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<v Speaker 3>transition because when I quit smoking weed, I got really

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<v Speaker 3>into night stocks like man, like real bad, and like

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<v Speaker 3>that shit has just ruined like my parts of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's been social weird experience because like it's ruined

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<v Speaker 3>parts of my life, but also it's like really enhanced

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<v Speaker 3>them because for a while there I was putting drugs

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<v Speaker 3>and like things were like going pretty well, and I

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<v Speaker 3>got to be, you know, be able to like reconnect

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<v Speaker 3>with a lot of old friends of mine, people that

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<v Speaker 3>I just really didn't even like consider were my friends

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't consider like reconnecting with them because like

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<v Speaker 3>I would just smoke weed every day, and like I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like when I smoke weed every day, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't really guilt fuck about anything, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, Like things just kind of have happened

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<v Speaker 3>to you, and like, you know, you really just don't

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<v Speaker 3>guilt fuck, Like you don't have like any ambition or

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<v Speaker 3>you're not like like trying to move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>And like, so all right, I got multiple questions.

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<v Speaker 4>One, So okay, So this all started when this girl

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<v Speaker 4>got pregnant and am I am I under to understand

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<v Speaker 4>correctly that she she terminated the pregnancy. Yeah, okay, and

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<v Speaker 4>so you and so it was this roller coaster where

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<v Speaker 4>you thought, but you got you guys got pregnant on accident,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you wanted to take it to like you Basically,

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<v Speaker 4>it was basically an emotional roller coaster, I'm sure for

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<v Speaker 4>both of you. Yeah, and then it was that like

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<v Speaker 4>the catalyst for the the the drugs stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was always kind of like into doing drugs,

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<v Speaker 3>but like not like this, Like my night's problem was.

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<v Speaker 1>So fucking bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm about like two months removed from it

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<v Speaker 3>right now, but like even now, it's like I still

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<v Speaker 3>feel like going back to it and shit, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just so fucking hard to like you all to quit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know. I think it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like a dissociation thing. Like even the girl I'm seeing now,

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<v Speaker 3>she's a stripper and I like her a lot as

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<v Speaker 3>a person, but like we kind of just do ketamine

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<v Speaker 3>together and it's not really like like I like it

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<v Speaker 3>and I enjoy and it's a good time, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, if I'm necessarily like living like a facility life,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so you're your two months clean off of nitrous yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and what are you are you like into anything now ketamine?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I do care with her right now. Technically I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on probation, so I got like a dui last year,

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<v Speaker 3>but I can't really like drink or do anything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're kind of in this is what you're seeing

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<v Speaker 4>this girl. But it's like it's like we you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we we hook up and we do drugs together, but

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<v Speaker 4>there's not really a connection or any anything kind of

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<v Speaker 4>meaningful being built.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm hearing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't really think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it could be, but like that's one of

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<v Speaker 3>those things I feel like you never really know, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with that sentiment. You never really know. It's

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<v Speaker 4>something that kind of unfolds naturally over time.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. Something's something a.

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<v Speaker 4>Relationship that is begins with just hooking up and doing

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<v Speaker 4>ketamine can evolve into something deeper.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think so. I think it's necessarily always a

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<v Speaker 3>bad thing. I feel like when I was in therapy,

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of told me like you know people, you

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<v Speaker 3>have good connections and bad connections. EF, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>like pursuing like more bad connections. Like it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think everything's good in moderation, but not like if

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<v Speaker 3>you're getting like super adictous to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, So are you trying to do less drugs?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I have to right now. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 3>am in the future. I guess like I like the party,

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<v Speaker 3>have a good time, but like you know, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to go to school right now, so I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>like really prioritize that over everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you going to school for?

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<v Speaker 3>I got to school for musical theater.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, hold on, I'm literally I'm only laughing because

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<v Speaker 4>that's the last thing I would have ever guessed you

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<v Speaker 4>would have said, really, yeah, that's I'm like, I'm still

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<v Speaker 4>like in shock that you said that you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>school for.

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<v Speaker 2>A musical theater.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, what tell me about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Bro?

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<v Speaker 3>I love it, man, It's like my biggest passion in life.

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<v Speaker 3>I started when I was really young, when I was

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<v Speaker 3>like eight, and then I just I lost it for

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<v Speaker 3>like ten years. After high school, I started to go

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<v Speaker 3>to school for like finance, and that's because my mom

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<v Speaker 3>wanted me to go for it, and I just didn't

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<v Speaker 3>like it. So then I tried to do an engineering

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<v Speaker 3>something that would make her happy, and I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>cut it. And so like down twenty eight, still going

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<v Speaker 3>to college, and I've been in college for like ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, I need to get something under my belt.

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<v Speaker 3>I need a degree. I don't want to leave here

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<v Speaker 3>with nothing, you know what I mean. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, let.

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<v Speaker 5>Me just go to school.

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<v Speaker 3>I had the grades to get into the school for

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<v Speaker 3>five a musical theater, and I was always deeply passionate

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<v Speaker 3>about it. So I was like, this is what I

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<v Speaker 3>want to do. I want to end up going to

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<v Speaker 3>school for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so wait, why did it take? Why have you

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<v Speaker 2>been in school for so long?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I started in finance and I didn't really like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I say, that's what it is. But then also I

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<v Speaker 3>went to school for engineering, and so I didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>all the like correct math prerequisites to really be able

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<v Speaker 3>to transfer my school. So like you have the transfer

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<v Speaker 3>process where you go from community college to like a

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<v Speaker 3>you university, university, and I just didn't have to prerequisites

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<v Speaker 3>to like transfer spara, like engineering or something that was

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<v Speaker 3>like not musical theater. My GPA was like a two

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<v Speaker 3>point three six when I transferred in, and I got

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<v Speaker 3>lucky because the transfer councilor told me that I only

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<v Speaker 3>needed a two point two five to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>get in. So once you're in Florida, how it works

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<v Speaker 3>is that if you get an AA in anything, you

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<v Speaker 3>automatically get accepted to whatever state school that you want

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<v Speaker 3>to go to.

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<v Speaker 4>So tell me about So tell me about you and

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<v Speaker 4>musical theater, because again this is not it's it's very

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<v Speaker 4>interesting to me that you're into musical theater. What tell

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<v Speaker 4>me about you and your history with tell me about

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<v Speaker 4>your love for musical theater.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean it's just one of those things, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I started when I was really young, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>when I was like eight, and then I did that

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<v Speaker 3>for five years at summer camp down here in South Florida,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I went to Arizona. I had a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>abrupt move because my mom moved for her job and

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<v Speaker 3>moved to Arizona for a couple of years, about four

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<v Speaker 3>or five. There, like musical theater out there in Arizona

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<v Speaker 3>doing community theater and doing high school theater. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I moved back to Florida for my senior year and

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<v Speaker 3>I did musical theater here as well. And yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 3>just always been really passionate about it. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Give me your roles throughout the years. I want to

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<v Speaker 4>hear some of the roles that you've undertaken.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I played the mad Hatter in Shrek once.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, I would absolutely pay money to see you be

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<v Speaker 4>the mad Hatter. What you said in Shrek?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Shrek the musical.

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<v Speaker 2>I did the Mad Hatters. I didn't know he was

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<v Speaker 2>in Shrek.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's part of the fairytale creatures.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got Okay, that makes sense. He's a fairy

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<v Speaker 2>tale guy. Do you do you have a crazy mad

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<v Speaker 2>Hatter voice that you do?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Mean, I would have to build up to you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to imagine that you play the mad Hatter,

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<v Speaker 4>just like exactly like yourself. You're like, hey man, you

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<v Speaker 4>want a cup of tea? You don't do any put on?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean what you don't do any put on?

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<v Speaker 2>Never mind? So what's your dream?

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<v Speaker 4>What's your what's your what? Do you ultimately want to

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<v Speaker 4>do with musical theater.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I've been acting here in South Florida for like

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<v Speaker 3>five years, and I do like a lot of movies,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of like, uh, smaller things, like like student films.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like some backstage stuff, and like really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I just didn't think that the movie career was really

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<v Speaker 3>going well for me, So I thought like, well, I

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<v Speaker 3>should go back to school and pursue what I really

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<v Speaker 3>am passionate about, which the musical theater. I've had any

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<v Speaker 3>hard time getting like an agent and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, Well I was gonna ask that is like,

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<v Speaker 4>is it set up so that if you get a degree,

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<v Speaker 4>is it easy to get work because of that?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so. I looked at a lot of my

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<v Speaker 3>friends in the industry, and I see that like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people who have degrees in this field end

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<v Speaker 3>up doing better than people who who don't have degrees

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<v Speaker 3>in it or just using national talent.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting, yeah, And is the drug stuff preventing you from

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<v Speaker 4>doing any of this?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it making any of it harder?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I would say so only because like when I

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<v Speaker 3>was on a nice OX side, I really really was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to fuck up my life. I mean, when I

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<v Speaker 3>went to therapy, they told me that I was diagnosed

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<v Speaker 3>with like BPD. So I already have like pretty hardcore

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<v Speaker 3>time like maintaining relationships and friendships. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like a really big thing that I haven't really gone

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<v Speaker 3>back to therapy to like really deal with that yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that like if I hadn't been doing so

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<v Speaker 3>much nice so ox size, like just messing with my

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<v Speaker 3>friends online on like on my Instagram and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 3>I probably would have had better connections, so like setting

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<v Speaker 3>it a little bit more, but I also still have

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of really good connections because there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people that I won't like fuck with, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, Like the people that like are

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<v Speaker 3>really important to me. I think I just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>had it in my head that like there are good

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<v Speaker 3>people and they're bad people, and I can't really tell

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<v Speaker 3>like who's going to be a fake friend to me

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<v Speaker 3>in the long term versus who's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>good friend to me in the long term, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean. At the end of the day, it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of hard to tell.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean by you were fucking with your

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<v Speaker 4>friends on Instagram?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and a couple of different things to do. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I was like posting a lot of like my feelings

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<v Speaker 3>and my emotions because I was in therapy, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like people maybe thought that, like I was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to talk to records to them on my Instagram story,

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<v Speaker 3>and I guess that maybe that kind of made them uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, your friends thought that you were subtweeting them, as

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<v Speaker 4>they say.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what that they call that sweet way?

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<v Speaker 4>They thought that you were alluding to them when you

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<v Speaker 4>were talking about your grievances.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think, so, okay, do you have.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of you seem like a social guy you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you got Vinnie right, you seem like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you seem like you're out and about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a community.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you say you have friends?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's kind of a hard thing to say,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I mean, like do I have friends, Yes, But

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<v Speaker 3>do I have any people know that I'm like really

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<v Speaker 3>close with that I'm actually like my true self around?

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to say, Like I mean maybe this girl,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, my mom for sure, but like friend friends,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there's certain people that like I couldn't beat

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<v Speaker 3>my real self around, you know, what I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>have to kind of put up a front.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you feel like you have to put up

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<v Speaker 2>a front around those people?

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<v Speaker 3>I just think that some of the things that I say,

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<v Speaker 3>like some of the jokes I might make, like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think they'll like really tolerate them. Like I have

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<v Speaker 3>friends at school who are very very keeping the theater,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, in theater, it's kind of like this

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<v Speaker 3>thing where it's like a lot of people have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of different opinions about a lot of things, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's very progressive, and so if you say the wrong thing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you might be steps pose. And then once

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<v Speaker 3>one person gets offended, that a lot of other people

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<v Speaker 3>are going to get depended on their behalf. And so

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't want to necessarily, like there's some relationships

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<v Speaker 3>that I just don't want to ruin.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, you're you you feel like

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<v Speaker 4>you are not woke enough for the musical theater crowd.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess you could say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, personally, I'm very progressive as a person, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe in hating anybody for any particular reason. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so in that way, like I'm very woke, but also

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time, like like doing drugs and drinking

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, like then shrinking and that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Like people aren't going to like really accept that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of behavior if you're being a problem, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you've you cad you want to clean up your

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<v Speaker 4>act before you start? Well, because theater is a very

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<v Speaker 4>it's a communal thing you're doing, Like you're you're always

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<v Speaker 4>going to be part of a team of people that

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<v Speaker 4>you have to play nice with and integrate with, and

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<v Speaker 4>so you don't want to be a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I don't, hm, And it's hard because

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<v Speaker 3>like I haven't been doing it for ten years, so

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<v Speaker 3>like coming back to it, it's like I have to

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<v Speaker 3>re learned a lot of things, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm also not I don't feel as good as

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<v Speaker 3>you know, some other people on around, but I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I've always kind of felt that way in the theater space.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, maybe it comes down to like

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<v Speaker 3>like a self worth thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I'm not obviously I'm not a real

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<v Speaker 4>therapist nor an addiction counselor or anything, but I will

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<v Speaker 4>ask I'm curious, like what do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Is driving the addiction and like the ketamine and shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I like to psych out, like I like to

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<v Speaker 3>have good like psychedelic experiences. I mean it comes from

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<v Speaker 3>like a long like history with my family and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that, Like my mom does drugs, my dad does drugs.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad likes to smoke a lot of weed. My

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<v Speaker 3>mom likes party. So I think that I'm just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like in some ways like I'm supposed to be,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I am who I'm supposed to be, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean. Like I think that like because of

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<v Speaker 3>my upbringing up, because I wasn't like taught.

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<v Speaker 5>I was taught through school that.

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<v Speaker 3>These things are bad. But I also like in the

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<v Speaker 3>home environment, I wasn't really taught that these things are bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I taught. I got pretty much taught at these things

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<v Speaker 3>for fun, you know what I mean. M which they

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<v Speaker 3>can be. There's like us responsible, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that drugs can definitely ruin people's lives, and

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<v Speaker 3>like even the word around it, it just has like

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<v Speaker 3>so much of a stigma to it. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you say drugs, you could be talking about any

0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 3>kind of drugs. There just like a huge difference between

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.720
<v Speaker 3>someone who's like smoking mess into an airway versus someone

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<v Speaker 3>who just does like LC every one so long, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you mentioned that you live in a place as

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<v Speaker 2>a good party. Yeah, are you out a lot?

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<v Speaker 3>I try to be when I can be, but like

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<v Speaker 3>recently I have did because I don't have like a

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<v Speaker 3>car or a ride.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm m hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what do you mean, like I'm just put the

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<v Speaker 3>dui and everything that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, yeah, but you have a uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Though, you're an interesting you're an interesting situation because you

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:39.720
<v Speaker 4>have like, uh, you have like multiple identities that you're

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<v Speaker 4>This is my armchair therapy read, is that you have

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<v Speaker 4>multiple identities that you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like trying to be between. Because you're a because you're you.

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<v Speaker 4>You like drugs and partying, and you're are you a

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<v Speaker 4>surfer or escape? I know you haven't mentioned it before

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<v Speaker 4>some reason. The whole time talking to you, I'm imagining

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<v Speaker 4>that you are like a you live in like a

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<v Speaker 4>surfing town or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I'm not into bigger into surfing. I mean

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:11.920
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of a surfing town. I mean Lake Whart

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Beach definitely people like to go out and desert. But

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<v Speaker 3>I just rided my scooter right now.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what you're Okay, So yeah, I read.

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<v Speaker 3>The bus, take the bus down to school, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're so, yeah, you're a you're a party boy,

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<v Speaker 4>you're doing drugs, you're living your life, but you also,

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<v Speaker 4>uh want to pursue this other thing that you feel

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<v Speaker 4>like will give you a higher sense of purpose. Because

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<v Speaker 4>you were telling me you're like hanging out and doing

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<v Speaker 4>kademy with with uh this lady is like you You're

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<v Speaker 4>like you're not feeling fulfilled and you're like trying. You're

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<v Speaker 4>like between these two like versions of yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I think that a lot of what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to do is transition out of being so crazy

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 3>and hectic like I was in my early twenties and

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.640
<v Speaker 3>like really set up my life to like be good

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 3>in my thirties, you know what I mean. Like I'm

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 3>trying to find ability to like have where I'm not

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 3>necessarily always just like not capable of, you know, doing

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 3>certain things or at least taking care of myself, you

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.640
<v Speaker 3>know what i mean. Like I have a firement, hey, Rent,

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 3>so like that's good, but I'm looking to like trying

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:27.959
<v Speaker 3>to have something in my life. That's also like make

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 3>me feel fulfilled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's exciting. That's a good I mean, that's

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 2>a good motive.

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 4>It because also like a lot of addiction, at least

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion and experience, comes from like a hopelessness

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 4>and like a cheap like just fucking uh. You know,

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 4>when you don't have any sort of like thing outside

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 4>of yourself for like something to be excited about or

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 4>move closer towards you, just like it's it's, it just

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 4>becomes easier to get addicted to it. So like to

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 4>have a north star of some kind of like I

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 4>want to get involved in musical theater.

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:10.919
<v Speaker 2>It's and I'm gonna not.

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<v Speaker 4>And the great thing about what you're trying to do

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:16.119
<v Speaker 4>is that it's a thing that is involved, heavily involved.

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 2>With other people.

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.879
<v Speaker 4>So you're gonna be in these environments where you really

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 4>have to set yourself aside so that you can integrate

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 4>with other groups of people and be helpful to them

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:34.440
<v Speaker 4>and be like kind of pull your weight on the team.

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 4>And those are all like motivating factors. They did, these

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 4>things outside of yourself that can get you where you

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:47.360
<v Speaker 4>want to be instead of like getting fucked up all

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 4>the time. Yeah, that's good, So you gotta get So

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 4>it's a good direction that you're heading in.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I ask you something?

0:25:57.760 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 5>Then?

0:25:58.440 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that like honesty is the best policy?

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 3>And then what I mean by that is like, do

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 3>you think that I should like open up to my

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 3>friends and tell them like about the stuff that I'm

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 3>going through? Or do you think that I should like

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 3>play my cards and hold it off and like not

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 3>really tell people about it.

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>When you say the stuff you're going through, do you

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 2>mean the drugs?

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, like, yeah, because I feel like some people probably

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 3>I wonder why I act weird and that's probably part

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 3>of it when I'm on drugs. And then like on

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 3>top of that, like I feel like people don't really

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 3>understand why, Like I was kind of going to do

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 3>that position, and I feel like telling people, like like

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 3>it's strange that I could tell you all this stuff,

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 3>but I can't tell someone who I'm close with all

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 3>this stuff, you know what I mean?

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I would.

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm still coming back to why you feel like because

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 4>you asked is honestly the best policy? And that's kind

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 4>of a blanket that's kind of a blanket statement. But

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 4>is that what in these in this particular. Let's assume

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 4>you have a relationship in mind that you're asking this about.

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 4>What is it about that particular RelA What is it

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 4>about that particular relationship that you're apprehensive about sharing stuff?

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, I just I think I'm just scared of the rejection,

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like, what if I tell

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 3>someone like about who I am and like what I

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 3>do and all of these things, and then they get

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 3>upset about it and they don't, like, you know, they

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 3>have their own purposes about these kinds of things, and

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 3>I think they're, like, they're just gonna want to place

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 3>me away.

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something.

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:41.719
<v Speaker 4>This is actually, this topic is something I actually struggle

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 4>with in my life a lot. And I'm I'm a

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 4>pretty open book about a lot of things. I'm like

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 4>I tell my friends and my family like everything I've

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 4>definitely shared.

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I've definitely overextended myself.

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 4>And shared things and like been as much of an

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.640
<v Speaker 4>open book as like I reasonably can. There's definitely things

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 4>that I still like keep to the chest, even among

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.920
<v Speaker 4>like friends and family and what not. But it's a question,

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of a question, is honestly the best policy.

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 4>It's it's really a question of like how do you

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 4>want to be right?

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 4>Like, how do you want to do you? And it's

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 4>hard because it's a it's a hard choice. I think

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.360
<v Speaker 4>about this all the time. Man, it's a hard choice.

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 4>Do you want to feel lighter and like you don't

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 4>have anything to hide and like you're.

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Comfortable sharing.

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 4>With people and that you're okay with who you are,

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 4>You're okay with expressing.

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Who you are.

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 4>You're like, you're really comfortable and okay with your truth

0:28:54.400 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 4>and accepting the whatever the consequences of that is. And

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't and is honestly the best policy.

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't believe that there is a best policy that's

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 4>up to you. Some days, some days I feel like

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 4>it's an empowering thing to be the most yourself as possible,

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 4>and in other days I'm like, no, I think that's

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 4>dumb and you should, uh, you know, be strategic and

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 4>intentional about it. But it's it's whatever philosophy you want

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 4>to add here to, and it's a very internal thing.

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>It's really not a thing to do based on like.

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 4>How other people will perceive you. It's like what kind

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 4>of relationships do you want to have? Do you feel

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 4>like it? Do you and your gut feel like this

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 4>will be a benefit to my life, this will deepen

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 4>my relationships, I'll feel better? Or are you like, let's

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 4>keep that on the wraps, Let's swallow that up into

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 4>my own black hole. Let's not tell anyone about that,

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 4>and let's just assume.

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's just.

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Dive deep into a different facet of my identity that

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 4>has nothing to do with that darker stuff.

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 2>And enjoy living in that.

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 4>And let me tell you something, my friend, that's not

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 4>a bad that's not a bad way to be at all.

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 2>But it's up to you.

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 4>It's a very like kind of personal and philosophical choice

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 4>of how you want to live.

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not against that.

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm not if you want to go like, if you

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 4>want to mentally be like, I'm gonna flip a switch

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 4>and I'm gonna again explore this other facade of myself

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 4>that I'm more proud of. And I'm gonna keep the

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 4>darkness to myself and process it alone and not let

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 4>it interfere with my life. Perfect legitimate. But if you

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 4>wanna in the load of your darkness to other people

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 4>and try to thrive in whatever sense you can as

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 4>as that that's okay too. I don't have a good

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't have a correct answer because my my my

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 4>personal feeling changes day to day.

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah hmm, well yeah, I mean I guess I just

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 3>gotta you know, to get day by day and like

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 3>kind of kind of make the choice of, like, you know,

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 3>what I do want to tell people, what I don't

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 3>want to tell people, because I think, like, especially when

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 3>I went to therapy, I do like PPT therapy, and

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 3>like what my therapist saw me was that like there's

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 3>a good like puniance square that you can do based

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 3>on like with the rewards, this is the consequences of

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 3>situation you're going to be and what decision you're going

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 3>to make interesting, And I think that that's like probably

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 3>gonna be prett helpful in that kind of case, because like,

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 3>there are friends that I definitely want to be closer

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 3>to because I think there's the things that I admired

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 3>about them that I also want to like have my

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 3>own life. But I don't see and I wonder if, like,

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't want to tell people too much

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 3>and then like have them worried. I mean obviously, right,

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 3>that's like obviously not a necessarily good thing to have,

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I am getting to a better place

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 3>for everything, So it's just kind of like maybe I

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 3>just can get to let time pass and just be

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 3>myself and just kind of like see how things go.

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 3>It is one of those things where it's kind of

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 3>a hard decision, Like I understand, like I kind of

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 3>did a lot of stuff that I'm not really super

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 3>proud of, but at the same time, it's like, you know,

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're going to do yourself at the end

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 3>of your day, and like being your most authentic self

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 3>is the most important thing, right So.

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 4>Due wouldn't it be crazy if I just started, like

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 4>if I just changed my voice into Joe Biden right now.

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>And I was like it was Vinny the whole time,

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>you bitch.

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bro, that'd be awesome.

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh uh what what? What's the dream role? What do

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>we do?

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 4>Are you Seymour from Little Shop? You seem too cool

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 4>to be Seymour? Oh what, you're the fucking dentist, dude,

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 4>I see that You're gonna You're gonna be the fuck

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 4>I totally see you being the dentist.

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bro, I just learned taps. So my friend was

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 3>to me, I can play squiight weeks from SpongeBob.

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 4>Dude, I've been this. I've been wanting to see the

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 4>SpongeBob musical for a while. I don't know where to

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 4>see it. Where is it playing? Do I have to

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 4>fly to Minnesota or something?

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 3>No, bro, I usually use like uh they call them

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 3>uh slime tutorials on YouTube. You can find almost anything

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 3>on YouTube. Yeah, any show you want to watch, they're

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 3>all on YouTube. YouTube has a pretty good program right now,

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 3>probably like and they're all still up and stuff like that.

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 3>I have to say up for a long time because's

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 3>a lot of shit shows on there.

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a favor Do you have a favorite musical?

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of going through like a Godspell phase.

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 3>I really like some of the scenes of Godsa Like

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 3>they just have good it's a good vibe. I think

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 3>it's like the way that they tell all these different

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 3>stories to different vendetta it's pretty good. But also like

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Into the Woods is the Great News, So I really

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 3>like Into the Woods.

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Ellis.

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything else you want to say to the

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 2>people of the computer.

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 6>Before we go, No, sweet, I appreciate you out, Yeah.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 4>Of course, man, good luck and uh I'll see you.

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 4>I'll see you on the big stage one day.

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 6>Keep doing great work, bro, Thank you all.

0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you. Man, have a good one.

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 6>But that was cool.

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 4>I was not expecting him to say musical theater, interesting, gentlemen.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 4>I hope he has a successful ARC.

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I believe in him.

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 5>Hey is this while?

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 6>Hey?

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 2>How's it going? Man?

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 5>It's going. I've been calling you for a while.

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 2>What's your name?

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Player?

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 5>H Oh, we're gonna go Gary Man.

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary. You got a good vibe. Gary.

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I like you already.

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Man, I like you too. I've been watching your

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>podcast at work almost like every day for the last

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 1>three months. It's been great. I really enjoy it.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, man.

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>What's sorry? What's that well?

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh, we're going camping right now.

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>We're in the car, so it's a little bumpy.

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's all right. I can actually hear you very well.

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh that's great.

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.359
<v Speaker 4>You texted me and you said I'd like to talk

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 4>about my dad's annoying girlfriends.

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, man, was actually okay.

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>So I was living with my dad for a while.

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>We just got a place not too long ago because

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>of her. But my brother's been going through it because

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>he moved back in with my dad and she is

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 1>just bullying them a whole lot.

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's in bullying her him a lot lately. And uh,

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>it sucks because I care about my brother a lot.

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 5>And they did the same thing to me.

0:36:52.440 --> 0:37:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Months before that. So my girlfriend right now, Oh the cows.

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>My girlfriend's she's going through it for a long time

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 1>with her as well. And they actually got into a

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>fight and one day and she pushed her and she

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>did like one of those things where it's like, oh,

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to act like I got pushed really hard,

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 1>but it really wasn't hard. And she fell on a cushion,

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and she acted like it hurt. But she fell on

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:34.719
<v Speaker 1>a cushion, right, It's a cushion. It can't hurt that much. Anyways,

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>she was like, you assaulted me. I'm going to call

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the police. And I was like, well, we're not going

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 1>to do that. We're just going to leave, right. So

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>after that happened, I was like homeless with her for

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>about two weeks, and I was traveling for work for

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 1>a while during this time, so I would travel and

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>then come back on the weekends and we would just

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>figure out a place to live, and she would come

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and travel with me. Anyways, so we found our own place,

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and so now I'm getting to the part where Okay,

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>so we got our own place, so she can't bully

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>us anymore. So then what does she do. She goes

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to my brother his girlfriend and starts pulling her. But

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:31.320
<v Speaker 1>she has a thing where it's like she just targets women.

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:35.399
<v Speaker 1>It's weird. She wouldn't be like really mean to us

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>or I'm not us but me and my brother, but

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>she would be mean to the women.

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 4>What exactly, what exactly did her and your girlfriend get

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 4>into a fight about.

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay, this was kind of funny. It's kind of off topic.

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 1>But I was doing community service, right and I had

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff in my car and I had to take some

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>people with me. So then I asked somebody from who

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I was doing the community service with. I was like, oh,

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>can I put my stuff in your car and so

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>you guys can rub me? Because he didn't have a license,

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not going to get in a

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 1>car somebody that doesn't have a license. I don't need

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that extra stuff. So I put my stuff in his car.

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>And then when we finished our community service, I kind

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>of forgot it. And after that, dude, I went back home.

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 1>And then halfway when I was going back home, I

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, I love my girlfriend. It

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 1>was my girlfriend stuff. It wasn't just my it was

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend stuff. And I was like, oh man. So

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 1>then afterwards I went over to my parents and I

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, can you guys help me find this guy?

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Can we like track him down? And so we're we're like,

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm basically freaking out. They're trying to come up with

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>an idea, and then we bring her down because it's

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>her stuff, and she was already pissed off because I

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>told her about before I told them, and we were

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to help her out, and she just started saying

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.919
<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of stuff that was like not on

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>topic about the deal that we were having beforehand, and

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 1>then that kind of sparked everything else where. They were

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>like calling each other names and this and that, and

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to get too vulgar with it,

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it was a fight.

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 4>Okay, how does your dad How long has your dad

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 4>and this lady been together?

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I would say about a year now. This is kind

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:44.240
<v Speaker 1>of so to kind of backtrack, my mom passed away

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:51.840
<v Speaker 1>back in twenty twenty one, and yeah, you know, it sucks,

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, but we're still here. You know, we're still surviving.

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>We're in this world. I miss her every day, you know,

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>but you know, we're here, so it's fun. Other than that,

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 1>then he was just going through a dark part in

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 1>his life, and you know, he found her and then

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>they started getting together and everything, and that's kind of

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>how they kind of, I guess, became together, if that

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:23.360
<v Speaker 1>makes sense.

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like your dad really likes her? Is

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.320
<v Speaker 2>he like in love with her? You think?

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, I think I think he does. And that's

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:39.799
<v Speaker 1>troubling too, because my grandparents don't even like like her

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot. Apparently my grandparents my grandma and specifically

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 1>she used to work with her. So that's kind of

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>how my dad and her also, I guess maybe knew

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>each other as well. And I also knew that my

0:41:55.320 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>mom hated her. She despises her, and she he says, oh,

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>but I loved your mom and this and that, and

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:03.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like.

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.919
<v Speaker 5>My mom hated you. What do you mean?

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Like it doesn't make any sense, it really doesn't.

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 4>So this lady is just kind of like picking fights

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 4>with your well not because she only picks fights with

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 4>the women, So she is picking fights with your girlfriend,

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 4>and now she's picking fights with your brother's girlfriend. But

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 4>you're out of there. You're not living with your dad anymore.

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 4>You're running around on your own.

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, I'm I'm doing real good for myself now.

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.919
<v Speaker 1>I got I got out of there. I'm twenty three currently. Man,

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta be twenty four.

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:41.399
<v Speaker 2>Cool man?

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 4>And what's and then what's your brother's deal? You're worried

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 4>about your brother because he's still back there.

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he can't get out because he just works

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>at a movie theater, man, which is a cool job.

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean I get free movies all the time, which

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>is great, but it just doesn't make him any money.

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 1>And his girlfriend never gets any job, so she can't

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>move about. I only live in a studio, so it's

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>not like I can take them under the wing or

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 1>anything either.

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 5>So they're just stuck in a pickle.

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Man. And I'm like, I'm there for him and everybody,

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>everybody else I have to be there for. But you know,

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I have think that I'm going through as well, and.

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I've what's happening in your life?

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:22.879
<v Speaker 6>Well?

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 4>I was sorry but what's going on in your life?

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, on a different note, I guess, uh something else

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to kind of talk to you about. Are

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 1>a kid passed away back in September, geez man last year.

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.919
<v Speaker 1>That's been something that's weighed me down a whole lot.

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 1>And you know, he he had a It's something that

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I think people could learn from too. He had a

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 1>basically limb body wall disease. And it's a point three, yes,

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:04.439
<v Speaker 1>zero point three percentile of this ever happening to any

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>new newborn child or anything. And it's a it's a

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 1>really rare thing. It happens to very little kids obviously,

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>But while he was in development, he just didn't grow

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:25.720
<v Speaker 1>the right way and it really it really affected his growth.

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:30.720
<v Speaker 1>And we went to many doctors and everything to figure

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>out what was going on. And the crazy thing is,

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I shouldn't really I can disclose my

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 1>state that I'm in, But in Kansas, the abortion is

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 1>somewhat legal, I would say, But man, I didn't bring cash, but.

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 5>They told us.

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.959
<v Speaker 1>To go to Colorado to get an abortion. Well that's

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars. I couldn't believe that. How does an

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>abortion cost two thousand dollars, but we didn't really want

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to do that anyway, so then we kept it full term.

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>We kept him his name was Declin, and we kept

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>him full term. I got to hold him for almost

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 1>two hours before he passed away.

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Man, damn and shit.

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And we figured out afterwards that it didn't have

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 1>to do anything with genetical It was just it was

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>just bad luck, man, Like it just happens to very

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 1>few people. And you know, I think it's it was

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of a learning curb. I guess for us as

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple as well, Like we learned a lot from

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:52.879
<v Speaker 1>each other and during that time, and it was it's

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 1>just it's just something to learn from. Man.

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 5>That's what life is.

0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Is all about experiences, and you know what to do

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:02.720
<v Speaker 1>after things like that happen.

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, bro, how long ago? How long ago did

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 2>this happen?

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, it was back in September, so I would say,

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that was. Oh I haven't right on my

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I just got a tattoo of his name in the day.

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's September of twenty five, so those last year.

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 4>Almost Damn dude, man, I gotta tell you, man, for

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 4>a guy who's had a lot of fucked up shit

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.919
<v Speaker 4>happened to him. You sound like you are maintaining quite

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 4>jovial spirits and respect it.

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure, man, Like that's how I like

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to take life. And you know, I do things with

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend all the time. I have very few friends.

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>I used to have a lot of friends, but nowadays

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I just have a few good friends. And I feel

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>like that's all you need is a few good friends

0:46:56.960 --> 0:47:01.359
<v Speaker 1>in life, and you know, family, as much family as

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you can get. I mean, what, right, here's fine?

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:08.799
<v Speaker 2>What do you got?

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:09.359
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 2>What are you? What are you and your girlfriend doing

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:11.359
<v Speaker 2>right now?

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:14.840
<v Speaker 1>We're trying to figure out a place to the park

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>currently for our little camp site.

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh right, yes, you're going camping. I forgot about that.

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, we just we just arrived over here.

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Damn.

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, how did your how did your fucking

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 4>how did your girlfriend take it? Because I mean for her,

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 4>it's like that's a I mean, that's it's a totally

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 4>different thing.

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well, I mean, you know, postpartum and everything.

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a whole different thing for sure, and

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the depression and everything. But we've been holding up pretty okay,

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I think, don't you think you've been doing pretty decent lately.

0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Lyle's asking See says no, how does she is?

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 4>How does she feel about you talking about this? By

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 4>the way, because I talked to her about it, but

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 4>it's a very deeply personal thing. You know, I don't

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 4>know what her you know, how she feels about it?

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:19.959
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about her baby pass?

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:20.399
<v Speaker 3>In a way?

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 7>It's unfair, it's stupid. Can you hear me?

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 3>She?

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if she wants, if she wants to talk

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 4>on the if you want to give her the fun,

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:31.240
<v Speaker 4>she can talk if she wants.

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 7>It's unfair. It's stupid. It makes me hate people a

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:40.760
<v Speaker 7>lot more.

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, what's your what's your name? What's your name?

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 2>I can if you want to handle the fucking talk

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 2>to her.

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 7>Oh you're on speaker, You're okay, okay?

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 4>Al said, wait, sorry, can you take me off of

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:04.200
<v Speaker 4>the speaker and handle the phone. It's kind of hard

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 4>to hear if we do the speakerphone thing. Sorry, Uh, no, worries.

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 4>What's what's your name?

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:12.839
<v Speaker 7>Alison?

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Alison?

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 7>Yes?

0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 2>How's how how you doing? Alison?

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm holding on, I'm vibing.

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 4>I guess how is it sounds like Gary has uh

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:35.160
<v Speaker 4>quite good spirits just in general.

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:36.879
<v Speaker 2>He seems like a well spirited man.

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he is. We try to keep positive about everything,

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 7>especially what's happened in the last year, because we can't

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 7>really do anything about it, so we don't really want

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 7>to just be sad all the time, so we try

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:56.800
<v Speaker 7>to keep our heads to end our best.

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:02.319
<v Speaker 2>How'd to go with So you're the one that got

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 2>into the fight with his dad's girlfriend.

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, fuck that bitch. I'm sorry. I don't know if

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 7>I can cuss. I gone. No, that bitch is so annoying.

0:50:16.719 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 7>When he got his like travel job, he was like

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 7>gone all the time, and it was just when our

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 7>kid passed, so I was like going through postpartum and

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:31.920
<v Speaker 7>like grieving and everything. And whenever he would leave this

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 7>whenever he was at home, everything was fine, but whenever

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 7>he'd leave, like she would literally attack me and give

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:43.760
<v Speaker 7>me so much attitude for no reason. I'd literally wake

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:46.359
<v Speaker 7>up some days and go downstairs and get something to

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:49.799
<v Speaker 7>eat or drink and she would just yell at me

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:53.720
<v Speaker 7>for no reason. And he literally had to start paying

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 7>his dad like money for rent so she would leave

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:02.320
<v Speaker 7>us alone. Case got about Yeah, because when we moved

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 7>back to his dad's. He wanted Gary to save the

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 7>most money he can and everything, but she just would

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 7>not stop bothering me. So we made a deal like, hey,

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 7>like if we pay you this money, she has to

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:21.839
<v Speaker 7>leave me alone because I don't do anything to her.

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 7>I don't know why she's all up my ass all

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 7>the time, like tm I. But she would literally ask

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:33.280
<v Speaker 7>him how my personal hygiene was. She'd always keep truck

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 7>on when I had my periods and everything. Anytime I'd

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 7>go into the bathroom to change, like my tampon, she

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:43.680
<v Speaker 7>would like go in the bathroom afterwards and check it

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:45.879
<v Speaker 7>out like whoa.

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 4>Wait wait wait wait wait wait right she would she

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:51.400
<v Speaker 4>would she would look at your tampon.

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, she would track every time I would change my tampon.

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:59.240
<v Speaker 7>She would always ask Gary, like about my personal hygiene

0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 7>or something like she wanted to be with me, Like

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:03.839
<v Speaker 7>she's always up my ass, like she did that weirdo shit.

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 7>And so when he like lost my stuff in that

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 7>guy's car. He just met him that day, and it

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 7>had like our babies, Like when we had our baby,

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.719
<v Speaker 7>we all had matching blankets. In my matching blanket was

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:23.160
<v Speaker 7>in that man's car. And I got pissed the fuck off,

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 7>and he told me like, let's go downstairs to talk

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 7>to my dad. I was like, okay, cool, I don't

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:31.400
<v Speaker 7>want to talk to you know, her about it because

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:33.399
<v Speaker 7>I have no reason to talk to her about it.

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 7>And when we get downstairs, she I was trying to

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:42.280
<v Speaker 7>talk to his dad and everything, and I was pissed

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 7>off obviously, like we don't know this guy, like he

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 7>could be a perr, like all my girl stuff is

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 7>in there, he could just say fuck it and sell it,

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:53.960
<v Speaker 7>like there's always these what ifs, like you never know,

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:57.240
<v Speaker 7>and we don't have a way to get in contact

0:52:57.320 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 7>with this guy or anything, and he would. She just

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:02.920
<v Speaker 7>kept on talking to me, and I just kept on

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 7>telling her, like getting louder every single time, like I

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:08.920
<v Speaker 7>don't want to talk to you, like I was promised

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:12.399
<v Speaker 7>to talk to his dad, not you. And she's like, well,

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:15.399
<v Speaker 7>we're a couple, so we're together, Like I'm a part

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:17.440
<v Speaker 7>of it no matter what. And I was like, he

0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 7>says on person like blah blah blah blah. And she

0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 7>was telling me I can always get new stuff. Girl

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 7>stuff is expensive. First of one, who's gonna be paying

0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 7>for that? Who got money to make me a new wardrobe,

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.440
<v Speaker 7>Like here's stuff, shower stuff, like that's a lot of money.

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.440
<v Speaker 7>And my baby's blanket, I can never get that back.

0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 7>Like I cuddled with him in that, like I slept

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:41.879
<v Speaker 7>with him in that because we got to keep him

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 7>in the hospital for a few days till we left.

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 7>And she's just over here talking about, oh, it's you

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:52.279
<v Speaker 7>can get new stuff. It's fine, it's fine. And I

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 7>was like, I don't know how you treat your stuff,

0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:57.480
<v Speaker 7>but I don't treat mine like garbage, like I don't

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 7>care about it like I care about my stuff. Like

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.920
<v Speaker 7>treat your stuff however you want it, forget it.

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Fuck it, whatever.

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 7>But that's not how I am. And she got pissy

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:10.719
<v Speaker 7>at me, and she like stepped all the way like

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:14.319
<v Speaker 7>to across the living room, and then we were like

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 7>yelling and screaming at each other. And then she stepped

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 7>to me, like she stomped and got into my face

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 7>and she was yelling at me, and I was like

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 7>up against a couch, so I pushed her off of me,

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 7>and then she like got up and tried to fight me,

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 7>and her dad had well, his dad had to hold

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 7>her back, and she kept on, claiming she had so

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:39.760
<v Speaker 7>many marks on her and she's gonna call the police

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 7>on me and all of this.

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad, Okay.

0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:48.759
<v Speaker 7>Did have to do me?

0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:53.400
<v Speaker 7>You guys were just staying in Wiland.

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:59.200
<v Speaker 2>All right? Well, do you guys have anything you're looking

0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 2>forward to? Talking about the camping trip? Well, I'm sorry,

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 2>sorry for what.

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:08.879
<v Speaker 7>Oh I didn't hear you all the way?

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh uh? Do you guys have stuff that you're looking

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:13.400
<v Speaker 2>forward to?

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:21.440
<v Speaker 7>To relax kind of just not have any stress or

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:26.040
<v Speaker 7>to rely on things or anything. We can just sit

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 7>back and relax and chill out. How far are you guys?

0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 2>How far are you guys?

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 6>Oh?

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 3>What's up?

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Hey?

0:55:41.400 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Gary?

0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 4>Do you do you guys have any Do you guys

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:45.759
<v Speaker 4>have anything that you're looking forward to?

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you have anything you're looking forward to?

0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:49.319
<v Speaker 4>We've got you know what, Gary, I appreciate you giving

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 4>me a nice little peek into your life.

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, give me a peak into your life.

0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 4>You got a lot going on, and yeah, I honestly,

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 4>what I'm me the most about this call is that

0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 4>you you you simply just maintain a high spirits.

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, man, you got to, I mean, with

0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:16.840
<v Speaker 1>everything that happens in life. I've always been able to

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:18.880
<v Speaker 1>move forward. That's what you got to do. You know,

0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:22.359
<v Speaker 1>you can't sit back and relook the past. You got

0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 1>to keep moving.

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:23.359
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 1>If you don't, then you're just going to stay in

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 1>a stagnant place. And you know, I wouldn't be where

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:31.839
<v Speaker 1>I am today if I just stayed in that stagnant place,

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:32.800
<v Speaker 1>stayed in my ways.

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:36.000
<v Speaker 2>So what's the future. So what's the future looking like

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 2>for you guys? What's on the horizon.

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm looking forward to I started a new

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:47.440
<v Speaker 1>business with my best friend and it's a landscaping company.

0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:49.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to shout it out or anything, there's

0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:54.080
<v Speaker 1>no need for that, but I'm looking forward to that,

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, staying staying in my place of where I

0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:02.400
<v Speaker 1>need to be in the universe, helping out anybody that

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I can. I mean, that's that's all you can do.

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if if I just didn't do anything to

0:57:10.040 --> 0:57:14.239
<v Speaker 1>support a community of where I'm at right now, I

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't I wouldn't feel like I I've had a purpose

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:21.080
<v Speaker 1>in life. And I'm I admit I've been very depressed

0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 1>for many months, but I feel like in this point

0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:28.120
<v Speaker 1>in my life right now, I'm the happiest that I've

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 1>been in a long time.

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 2>That's great, man, that's really really wonderful to hear. That's cool.

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Respect, deep, deep, deep respect to you, my brother.

0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:38.960
<v Speaker 4>I love Uh, I mean shit, dude, I mean that's

0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 4>one of the worst things that can ever happen to

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 4>a person, and the fact that you are able to

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 4>continue to still live and thrive through it is very Uh,

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 4>it's very cool. It's very inspiring, right.

0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:52.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's crazy.

0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:56.680
<v Speaker 1>How I keep a head on my shoulders a lot

0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 1>of time it amazes even me sometimes.

0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know how you doing.

0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.640
<v Speaker 2>So dude, some people, what you say.

0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Somebody's still in the fireplace that we were gonna have.

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:10.439
<v Speaker 1>But what a pap here?

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh fun? What was I gonna say? Oh? Uh oh?

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Some people are just built for life, you know. I mean,

0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 2>life is crazy. Some people are just built to handle it.

0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:28.800
<v Speaker 1>And some people aren't as well. Man. I've seen a

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of people that just stay stuck in their own ways.

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:35.200
<v Speaker 1>They never want to change. My dad's kind of that way.

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:37.760
<v Speaker 1>He just he's not a person of change. He stayed

0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the same job, the same thing, And I think that's

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:47.680
<v Speaker 1>why I live a life where I love change because

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I've seen my dad go through it for so long.

0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why I've been an electrician, I've been

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:59.400
<v Speaker 1>doing maintenance, I've I've always adapted to whatever environment I've

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 1>been through and whatever state I've been through, whether it's

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:07.960
<v Speaker 1>traveling or you know, even being back in my hometown.

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I always find a way to thrive, and

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that's important. I don't think you should just

0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 1>stay in your same ways all the time, but not

0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:20.480
<v Speaker 1>everybody can be like that either.

0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 4>Gary Man, is there anything else that you and your

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:27.960
<v Speaker 4>and your girl want to say to the people of

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:29.080
<v Speaker 4>the computer before we go?

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:36.720
<v Speaker 1>You know what, it was great talking to you. I've

0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:41.240
<v Speaker 1>been waiting for this moment for a while. Look your content.

0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>But I would say, love one another and always strive

0:59:47.080 --> 0:59:51.439
<v Speaker 1>for better, never strive for worse. And I think that's

0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:56.120
<v Speaker 1>very important for people to understand. If you stay by yourself,

0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:59.040
<v Speaker 1>if you don't ever have anything change in your life,

0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you live born life. Man, you need to spice it

1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:05.080
<v Speaker 1>up every now and then. That's why we're going camping.

1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:09.040
<v Speaker 1>That's why we try to spice things up, because fuck it,

1:00:09.160 --> 1:00:09.480
<v Speaker 1>why not?

1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:10.920
<v Speaker 5>You only get one life.

1:00:11.280 --> 1:00:13.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm pro doing things.

1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know you went to Iran, man, I would

1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:20.680
<v Speaker 1>never do it's.

1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Iraq, but you know, oh Iraq. But whatever, I'm cool.

1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Man.

1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:26.440
<v Speaker 2>A girl want to say anything.

1:00:27.120 --> 1:00:28.160
<v Speaker 5>You want to say anything.

1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:32.200
<v Speaker 7>No, I'm baby.

1:00:33.280 --> 1:00:35.440
<v Speaker 4>I heard her say no. She seems busy. She seems

1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:38.480
<v Speaker 4>like she's doing her own thing. But but thank you Gary,

1:00:39.160 --> 1:00:42.000
<v Speaker 4>good luck and have a have a nice weekend camping man.

1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, I'll come talk to you again in another

1:00:46.200 --> 1:00:47.880
<v Speaker 1>couple of months maybe.

1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:51.600
<v Speaker 2>No, take care Gary, All right, thanks you too, man.

1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:55.920
<v Speaker 1>See all right bye, man.

1:00:55.920 --> 1:01:00.840
<v Speaker 4>I gotta start. I gotta start fucking getting on the

1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:06.120
<v Speaker 4>Gary wave of life. Gary seems like Gary just figures

1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 4>out how to let the worst things imaginable right just

1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:10.440
<v Speaker 4>roll off his shoulders.

1:01:12.120 --> 1:01:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I respect it.

1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Be K goes on the line, taking your phone calls

1:01:16.920 --> 1:01:20.040
<v Speaker 4>every night, never becon, goes to and his ride. He's

1:01:20.080 --> 1:01:22.400
<v Speaker 4>teaching you about in the middle of your life, but

1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:24.520
<v Speaker 4>he's not really an expert.