Speaker 1: It was this.
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 3: Ellis?
Speaker 2: Who is this Ellie? Ellis Islands?
Speaker 3: Yeah? How you.
Speaker 2: Have you been?
Speaker 1: Have you ever?
Speaker 2: Have you been to Ellis Islands?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 3: Who is this?
Speaker 2: It's what you know?
Speaker 4: Have you imagined what your life might be like if
Speaker 4: you asked less questions and went with the flow more often?
Speaker 3: You know? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I think I know
Speaker 3: who what it is? Actually?
Speaker 1: What do you want? Bro?
Speaker 2: Wait? You think you know who this is?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I got a pretty good guess.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Uh you're probably my friend Vinnie. Bro, he's in a
Speaker 3: different fucking number. Where'd that take with?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 2: Vinnie? Tell me more about your friend Vinnie.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: He's a good dude.
Speaker 3: He's funny as fuck.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Where'd you and Vinnie meet? I'm calling him back?
Speaker 6: Yo, what's up?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: Dude? Who the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 2: It's it's the Gecko guy.
Speaker 3: Oh ship, it's Kyle.
Speaker 2: H Lyle, But either way it is.
Speaker 1: Yo Lyle.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, Bro, I thought it was somebody cranking. Bro.
Speaker 2: Who's Vinnie? Tell me about Vinnie?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Bro, my friend Vinnie. He's a cool dude. Bro, He's
Speaker 3: from South Florida like me, Dude. He likes to do
Speaker 3: these things bro, where he like uses AI to like
Speaker 3: uh train like where models and then he'll like he'll
Speaker 3: like create ais for like different people and then he'll
Speaker 3: do like crazy shit to them, bro. Like this one
Speaker 3: that he had was of President Biden, and he like
Speaker 3: kept Biden in like this like underground bunker and shit. Bro,
Speaker 3: it was super weird.
Speaker 4: He he AI trained a Joe Biden voice to like
Speaker 4: pretend he was in a bunker.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But he like he like kept him in a basement.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah bro, and he would like fuck with him and
Speaker 3: be like, bro, do you want to get out of
Speaker 3: the basement? And I and like all this stupid shit.
Speaker 2: So wait, how do you know Vinnie H?
Speaker 3: I know Vinnie from partying Delray.
Speaker 2: Partying in del Rey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, we have a good bar scene out here, bro.
Speaker 3: And I just met him one night do him Ustual?
Speaker 6: I think that's cool.
Speaker 2: You seem like you've got an interesting life. Ellis. I'm
Speaker 2: excited to talk to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, I need to talk to you, man.
Speaker 1: B bro.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's just been crazy in my life and I
Speaker 3: need to get it off my chest.
Speaker 4: Wait, I have I actually have a few more questions
Speaker 4: about that. He like, okay, so did you think I
Speaker 4: was like an ai voice of some kind?
Speaker 3: Well, I thought that maybe he was messing with me,
Speaker 3: because I remember I texted you earlier, but I didn't
Speaker 3: realize that you could get back to me so quickly.
Speaker 3: This is like the second time I try to get on.
Speaker 2: So, like, have you ever have you been the victim
Speaker 2: of many prank calls?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually a couple of times?
Speaker 4: And what what was the uh prank behind?
Speaker 2: What was the prank behind the call?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean this time, bro, Okay, so I knew
Speaker 3: these two chicks, bro, and I guess they didn't want
Speaker 3: something who they were, but I must have known them
Speaker 3: in real life. And so they called me and like sorry,
Speaker 3: messing with me a ship And I seriously, like to
Speaker 3: this day don't know who those two people were, because
Speaker 3: I mean, there's like messing with me.
Speaker 2: So let's get into it. Why do you what kind
Speaker 2: of wait? Real quid? Hold on, man? Where are you
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 4: What I'm hearing like the whizzing of of cars and nots?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm actually back on my way to back
Speaker 3: to my crib right now.
Speaker 4: I went yeah, So so what is your life problem?
Speaker 4: You seem like you have a good life. I'm curious
Speaker 4: what's going wrong?
Speaker 3: I mean I do bro I thinks are pretty good.
Speaker 3: Things have been like kind of weird recently for me,
Speaker 3: So like, are you live right now?
Speaker 5: Can I call you back?
Speaker 2: I I mean, we can talk now if you want.
Speaker 3: Okay, because yeah, I'm going I'm like two minutes away
Speaker 3: from my crib.
Speaker 2: That's fine, Okay, So okay.
Speaker 3: I started into therapy right probably like two years ago.
Speaker 3: This girl that I was seeing I really liked because
Speaker 3: I thought she was really hot, and we ended up
Speaker 3: hooking up and she got pregnant. So after that, I
Speaker 3: got like really really upset by my life because I
Speaker 3: kind of felt like, I don't know, like I thought
Speaker 3: it was a good opportunity for me to be like
Speaker 3: I could definitely mature out of the situation, but she
Speaker 3: definitely didn't want to have kids. So like that ended
Speaker 3: up me leading to like drinking, and then eventually I
Speaker 3: had to.
Speaker 1: Go to therapy.
Speaker 3: And when I went to therapy, they got me to
Speaker 3: quit smoking weed because I spoke sweet for like a
Speaker 3: long time, man, Like I spoke sweet since I was
Speaker 3: like thirteen years old fifteen, I started like chronically using
Speaker 3: like every single day. So I quit at twenty six,
Speaker 3: and like it's just been like a hell but a
Speaker 3: transition because when I quit smoking weed, I got really
Speaker 3: into night stocks like man, like real bad, and like
Speaker 3: that shit has just ruined like my parts of my life.
Speaker 3: Like it's been social weird experience because like it's ruined
Speaker 3: parts of my life, but also it's like really enhanced
Speaker 3: them because for a while there I was putting drugs
Speaker 3: and like things were like going pretty well, and I
Speaker 3: got to be, you know, be able to like reconnect
Speaker 3: with a lot of old friends of mine, people that
Speaker 3: I just really didn't even like consider were my friends
Speaker 3: and I didn't consider like reconnecting with them because like
Speaker 3: I would just smoke weed every day, and like I
Speaker 3: feel like when I smoke weed every day, it's just
Speaker 3: like I don't really guilt fuck about anything, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like things just kind of have happened
Speaker 3: to you, and like, you know, you really just don't
Speaker 3: guilt fuck, Like you don't have like any ambition or
Speaker 3: you're not like like trying to move forward.
Speaker 2: And like, so all right, I got multiple questions.
Speaker 4: One, So okay, So this all started when this girl
Speaker 4: got pregnant and am I am I under to understand
Speaker 4: correctly that she she terminated the pregnancy. Yeah, okay, and
Speaker 4: so you and so it was this roller coaster where
Speaker 4: you thought, but you got you guys got pregnant on accident,
Speaker 4: and then you wanted to take it to like you Basically,
Speaker 4: it was basically an emotional roller coaster, I'm sure for
Speaker 4: both of you. Yeah, and then it was that like
Speaker 4: the catalyst for the the the drugs stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was always kind of like into doing drugs,
Speaker 3: but like not like this, Like my night's problem was.
Speaker 1: So fucking bad.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm about like two months removed from it
Speaker 3: right now, but like even now, it's like I still
Speaker 3: feel like going back to it and shit, and it's
Speaker 3: just so fucking hard to like you all to quit.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I think it's kind of
Speaker 3: like a dissociation thing. Like even the girl I'm seeing now,
Speaker 3: she's a stripper and I like her a lot as
Speaker 3: a person, but like we kind of just do ketamine
Speaker 3: together and it's not really like like I like it
Speaker 3: and I enjoy and it's a good time, but I
Speaker 3: don't know, if I'm necessarily like living like a facility life,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you're your two months clean off of nitrous yeah,
Speaker 4: and what are you are you like into anything now ketamine?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do care with her right now. Technically I'm
Speaker 3: on probation, so I got like a dui last year,
Speaker 3: but I can't really like drink or do anything like that.
Speaker 4: So you're kind of in this is what you're seeing
Speaker 4: this girl. But it's like it's like we you know,
Speaker 4: we we hook up and we do drugs together, but
Speaker 4: there's not really a connection or any anything kind of
Speaker 4: meaningful being built.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't really think so.
Speaker 3: I mean it could be, but like that's one of
Speaker 3: those things I feel like you never really know, right.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 4: I agree with that sentiment. You never really know. It's
Speaker 4: something that kind of unfolds naturally over time.
Speaker 2: I agree. Something's something a.
Speaker 4: Relationship that is begins with just hooking up and doing
Speaker 4: ketamine can evolve into something deeper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think it's necessarily always a
Speaker 3: bad thing. I feel like when I was in therapy,
Speaker 3: the kind of told me like you know people, you
Speaker 3: have good connections and bad connections. EF, I want to
Speaker 3: like pursuing like more bad connections. Like it's you know,
Speaker 3: I think everything's good in moderation, but not like if
Speaker 3: you're getting like super adictous to it.
Speaker 2: You know, So are you trying to do less drugs?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 3: I have to right now. I don't know if I
Speaker 3: am in the future. I guess like I like the party,
Speaker 3: have a good time, but like you know, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to go to school right now, so I'm trying to
Speaker 3: like really prioritize that over everything else.
Speaker 2: What are you going to school for?
Speaker 3: I got to school for musical theater.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, hold on, I'm literally I'm only laughing because
Speaker 4: that's the last thing I would have ever guessed you
Speaker 4: would have said, really, yeah, that's I'm like, I'm still
Speaker 4: like in shock that you said that you're going to
Speaker 4: school for.
Speaker 2: A musical theater.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what tell me about that?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 3: I love it, man, It's like my biggest passion in life.
Speaker 3: I started when I was really young, when I was
Speaker 3: like eight, and then I just I lost it for
Speaker 3: like ten years. After high school, I started to go
Speaker 3: to school for like finance, and that's because my mom
Speaker 3: wanted me to go for it, and I just didn't
Speaker 3: like it. So then I tried to do an engineering
Speaker 3: something that would make her happy, and I just couldn't
Speaker 3: cut it. And so like down twenty eight, still going
Speaker 3: to college, and I've been in college for like ten years.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I need to get something under my belt.
Speaker 3: I need a degree. I don't want to leave here
Speaker 3: with nothing, you know what I mean. So I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, let.
Speaker 5: Me just go to school.
Speaker 3: I had the grades to get into the school for
Speaker 3: five a musical theater, and I was always deeply passionate
Speaker 3: about it. So I was like, this is what I
Speaker 3: want to do. I want to end up going to
Speaker 3: school for this.
Speaker 2: Okay, so wait, why did it take? Why have you
Speaker 2: been in school for so long?
Speaker 3: Well, I started in finance and I didn't really like it.
Speaker 3: I say, that's what it is. But then also I
Speaker 3: went to school for engineering, and so I didn't have
Speaker 3: all the like correct math prerequisites to really be able
Speaker 3: to transfer my school. So like you have the transfer
Speaker 3: process where you go from community college to like a
Speaker 3: you university, university, and I just didn't have to prerequisites
Speaker 3: to like transfer spara, like engineering or something that was
Speaker 3: like not musical theater. My GPA was like a two
Speaker 3: point three six when I transferred in, and I got
Speaker 3: lucky because the transfer councilor told me that I only
Speaker 3: needed a two point two five to be able to
Speaker 3: get in. So once you're in Florida, how it works
Speaker 3: is that if you get an AA in anything, you
Speaker 3: automatically get accepted to whatever state school that you want
Speaker 3: to go to.
Speaker 4: So tell me about So tell me about you and
Speaker 4: musical theater, because again this is not it's it's very
Speaker 4: interesting to me that you're into musical theater. What tell
Speaker 4: me about you and your history with tell me about
Speaker 4: your love for musical theater.
Speaker 2: Let's get into that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it's just one of those things, right.
Speaker 3: I started when I was really young, like I said,
Speaker 3: when I was like eight, and then I did that
Speaker 3: for five years at summer camp down here in South Florida,
Speaker 3: and then I went to Arizona. I had a pretty
Speaker 3: abrupt move because my mom moved for her job and
Speaker 3: moved to Arizona for a couple of years, about four
Speaker 3: or five. There, like musical theater out there in Arizona
Speaker 3: doing community theater and doing high school theater. And then
Speaker 3: I moved back to Florida for my senior year and
Speaker 3: I did musical theater here as well. And yeah, I've
Speaker 3: just always been really passionate about it. I mean, I
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 4: Give me your roles throughout the years. I want to
Speaker 4: hear some of the roles that you've undertaken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I played the mad Hatter in Shrek once.
Speaker 4: Dude, I would absolutely pay money to see you be
Speaker 4: the mad Hatter. What you said in Shrek?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shrek the musical.
Speaker 2: I did the Mad Hatters. I didn't know he was
Speaker 2: in Shrek.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's part of the fairytale creatures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Okay, that makes sense. He's a fairy
Speaker 2: tale guy. Do you do you have a crazy mad
Speaker 2: Hatter voice that you do?
Speaker 3: No? Mean, I would have to build up to you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I like to imagine that you play the mad Hatter,
Speaker 4: just like exactly like yourself. You're like, hey man, you
Speaker 4: want a cup of tea? You don't do any put on?
Speaker 3: What do you mean what you don't do any put on?
Speaker 2: Never mind? So what's your dream?
Speaker 4: What's your what's your what? Do you ultimately want to
Speaker 4: do with musical theater.
Speaker 3: Well, I've been acting here in South Florida for like
Speaker 3: five years, and I do like a lot of movies,
Speaker 3: a lot of like, uh, smaller things, like like student films.
Speaker 3: I do like some backstage stuff, and like really, I mean,
Speaker 3: I just didn't think that the movie career was really
Speaker 3: going well for me, So I thought like, well, I
Speaker 3: should go back to school and pursue what I really
Speaker 3: am passionate about, which the musical theater. I've had any
Speaker 3: hard time getting like an agent and stuff.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Well I was gonna ask that is like,
Speaker 4: is it set up so that if you get a degree,
Speaker 4: is it easy to get work because of that?
Speaker 3: I think so. I looked at a lot of my
Speaker 3: friends in the industry, and I see that like a
Speaker 3: lot of people who have degrees in this field end
Speaker 3: up doing better than people who who don't have degrees
Speaker 3: in it or just using national talent.
Speaker 4: Interesting, yeah, And is the drug stuff preventing you from
Speaker 4: doing any of this?
Speaker 2: Is it making any of it harder?
Speaker 3: Well? I would say so only because like when I
Speaker 3: was on a nice OX side, I really really was
Speaker 3: trying to fuck up my life. I mean, when I
Speaker 3: went to therapy, they told me that I was diagnosed
Speaker 3: with like BPD. So I already have like pretty hardcore
Speaker 3: time like maintaining relationships and friendships. So that's kind of
Speaker 3: like a really big thing that I haven't really gone
Speaker 3: back to therapy to like really deal with that yet.
Speaker 3: I think that like if I hadn't been doing so
Speaker 3: much nice so ox size, like just messing with my
Speaker 3: friends online on like on my Instagram and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: I probably would have had better connections, so like setting
Speaker 3: it a little bit more, but I also still have
Speaker 3: like a lot of really good connections because there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people that I won't like fuck with, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like the people that like are
Speaker 3: really important to me. I think I just kind of
Speaker 3: had it in my head that like there are good
Speaker 3: people and they're bad people, and I can't really tell
Speaker 3: like who's going to be a fake friend to me
Speaker 3: in the long term versus who's going to be a
Speaker 3: good friend to me in the long term, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. At the end of the day, it's
Speaker 3: kind of hard to tell.
Speaker 4: What do you mean by you were fucking with your
Speaker 4: friends on Instagram?
Speaker 3: Well, and a couple of different things to do. Like
Speaker 3: I was like posting a lot of like my feelings
Speaker 3: and my emotions because I was in therapy, and sometimes
Speaker 3: I felt like people maybe thought that, like I was
Speaker 3: trying to talk to records to them on my Instagram story,
Speaker 3: and I guess that maybe that kind of made them uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Mmm.
Speaker 4: Oh, your friends thought that you were subtweeting them, as
Speaker 4: they say.
Speaker 1: Is that what that they call that sweet way?
Speaker 4: They thought that you were alluding to them when you
Speaker 4: were talking about your grievances.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, so, okay, do you have.
Speaker 4: A lot of you seem like a social guy you mentioned.
Speaker 4: I mean, you got Vinnie right, you seem like, you know,
Speaker 4: you seem like you're out and about that.
Speaker 2: You have a community.
Speaker 1: Do you do?
Speaker 2: Would you say you have friends?
Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of a hard thing to say,
Speaker 3: Like I mean, like do I have friends, Yes, But
Speaker 3: do I have any people know that I'm like really
Speaker 3: close with that I'm actually like my true self around?
Speaker 3: It's hard to say, Like I mean maybe this girl,
Speaker 3: I mean, my mom for sure, but like friend friends,
Speaker 3: I mean there's certain people that like I couldn't beat
Speaker 3: my real self around, you know, what I mean, I
Speaker 3: have to kind of put up a front.
Speaker 2: Why do you feel like you have to put up
Speaker 2: a front around those people?
Speaker 3: I just think that some of the things that I say,
Speaker 3: like some of the jokes I might make, like I
Speaker 3: don't think they'll like really tolerate them. Like I have
Speaker 3: friends at school who are very very keeping the theater,
Speaker 3: and you know, in theater, it's kind of like this
Speaker 3: thing where it's like a lot of people have a
Speaker 3: lot of different opinions about a lot of things, but
Speaker 3: it's very progressive, and so if you say the wrong thing,
Speaker 3: you know, you might be steps pose. And then once
Speaker 3: one person gets offended, that a lot of other people
Speaker 3: are going to get depended on their behalf. And so
Speaker 3: like I don't want to necessarily, like there's some relationships
Speaker 3: that I just don't want to ruin.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, you're you you feel like
Speaker 4: you are not woke enough for the musical theater crowd.
Speaker 5: I guess you could say that.
Speaker 3: I mean, personally, I'm very progressive as a person, Like
Speaker 3: I don't believe in hating anybody for any particular reason. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so in that way, like I'm very woke, but also
Speaker 3: at the same time, like like doing drugs and drinking
Speaker 3: a lot, like then shrinking and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Like people aren't going to like really accept that kind
Speaker 3: of behavior if you're being a problem, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Do you've you cad you want to clean up your
Speaker 4: act before you start? Well, because theater is a very
Speaker 4: it's a communal thing you're doing, Like you're you're always
Speaker 4: going to be part of a team of people that
Speaker 4: you have to play nice with and integrate with, and
Speaker 4: so you don't want to be a problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't, hm, And it's hard because
Speaker 3: like I haven't been doing it for ten years, so
Speaker 3: like coming back to it, it's like I have to
Speaker 3: re learned a lot of things, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And I'm also not I don't feel as good as
Speaker 3: you know, some other people on around, but I mean
Speaker 3: I've always kind of felt that way in the theater space.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, maybe it comes down to like
Speaker 3: like a self worth thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm not obviously I'm not a real
Speaker 4: therapist nor an addiction counselor or anything, but I will
Speaker 4: ask I'm curious, like what do you think.
Speaker 2: Is driving the addiction and like the ketamine and shit.
Speaker 3: Well, I like to psych out, like I like to
Speaker 3: have good like psychedelic experiences. I mean it comes from
Speaker 3: like a long like history with my family and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, Like my mom does drugs, my dad does drugs.
Speaker 3: My dad likes to smoke a lot of weed. My
Speaker 3: mom likes party. So I think that I'm just kind
Speaker 3: of like in some ways like I'm supposed to be,
Speaker 3: Like I am who I'm supposed to be, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like I think that like because of
Speaker 3: my upbringing up, because I wasn't like taught.
Speaker 5: I was taught through school that.
Speaker 3: These things are bad. But I also like in the
Speaker 3: home environment, I wasn't really taught that these things are bad.
Speaker 3: I taught. I got pretty much taught at these things
Speaker 3: for fun, you know what I mean. M which they
Speaker 3: can be. There's like us responsible, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I understand that drugs can definitely ruin people's lives, and
Speaker 3: like even the word around it, it just has like
Speaker 3: so much of a stigma to it. Like you know,
Speaker 3: if you say drugs, you could be talking about any
Speaker 3: kind of drugs. There just like a huge difference between
Speaker 3: someone who's like smoking mess into an airway versus someone
Speaker 3: who just does like LC every one so long, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned that you live in a place as
Speaker 2: a good party. Yeah, are you out a lot?
Speaker 3: I try to be when I can be, but like
Speaker 3: recently I have did because I don't have like a
Speaker 3: car or a ride.
Speaker 2: Mm hm m hmm.
Speaker 1: That's my fault.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you mean, like I'm just put the
Speaker 3: dui and everything that's.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, but you have a uh.
Speaker 4: Though, you're an interesting you're an interesting situation because you
Speaker 4: have like, uh, you have like multiple identities that you're
Speaker 4: This is my armchair therapy read, is that you have
Speaker 4: multiple identities that you're.
Speaker 2: Like trying to be between. Because you're a because you're you.
Speaker 4: You like drugs and partying, and you're are you a
Speaker 4: surfer or escape? I know you haven't mentioned it before
Speaker 4: some reason. The whole time talking to you, I'm imagining
Speaker 4: that you are like a you live in like a
Speaker 4: surfing town or something like that.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not into bigger into surfing. I mean
Speaker 3: it's kind of a surfing town. I mean Lake Whart
Speaker 3: Beach definitely people like to go out and desert. But
Speaker 3: I just rided my scooter right now.
Speaker 6: That's what you're Okay, So yeah, I read.
Speaker 3: The bus, take the bus down to school, Okay.
Speaker 4: But you're so, yeah, you're a you're a party boy,
Speaker 4: you're doing drugs, you're living your life, but you also,
Speaker 4: uh want to pursue this other thing that you feel
Speaker 4: like will give you a higher sense of purpose. Because
Speaker 4: you were telling me you're like hanging out and doing
Speaker 4: kademy with with uh this lady is like you You're
Speaker 4: like you're not feeling fulfilled and you're like trying. You're
Speaker 4: like between these two like versions of yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think that a lot of what I'm
Speaker 3: trying to do is transition out of being so crazy
Speaker 3: and hectic like I was in my early twenties and
Speaker 3: like really set up my life to like be good
Speaker 3: in my thirties, you know what I mean. Like I'm
Speaker 3: trying to find ability to like have where I'm not
Speaker 3: necessarily always just like not capable of, you know, doing
Speaker 3: certain things or at least taking care of myself, you
Speaker 3: know what i mean. Like I have a firement, hey, Rent,
Speaker 3: so like that's good, but I'm looking to like trying
Speaker 3: to have something in my life. That's also like make
Speaker 3: me feel fulfilled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's exciting. That's a good I mean, that's
Speaker 2: a good motive.
Speaker 4: It because also like a lot of addiction, at least
Speaker 4: in my opinion and experience, comes from like a hopelessness
Speaker 4: and like a cheap like just fucking uh. You know,
Speaker 4: when you don't have any sort of like thing outside
Speaker 4: of yourself for like something to be excited about or
Speaker 4: move closer towards you, just like it's it's, it just
Speaker 4: becomes easier to get addicted to it. So like to
Speaker 4: have a north star of some kind of like I
Speaker 4: want to get involved in musical theater.
Speaker 2: It's and I'm gonna not.
Speaker 4: And the great thing about what you're trying to do
Speaker 4: is that it's a thing that is involved, heavily involved.
Speaker 2: With other people.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna be in these environments where you really
Speaker 4: have to set yourself aside so that you can integrate
Speaker 4: with other groups of people and be helpful to them
Speaker 4: and be like kind of pull your weight on the team.
Speaker 4: And those are all like motivating factors. They did, these
Speaker 4: things outside of yourself that can get you where you
Speaker 4: want to be instead of like getting fucked up all
Speaker 4: the time. Yeah, that's good, So you gotta get So
Speaker 4: it's a good direction that you're heading in.
Speaker 3: Can I ask you something?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: Do you think that like honesty is the best policy?
Speaker 3: And then what I mean by that is like, do
Speaker 3: you think that I should like open up to my
Speaker 3: friends and tell them like about the stuff that I'm
Speaker 3: going through? Or do you think that I should like
Speaker 3: play my cards and hold it off and like not
Speaker 3: really tell people about it.
Speaker 2: When you say the stuff you're going through, do you
Speaker 2: mean the drugs?
Speaker 3: Well, like, yeah, because I feel like some people probably
Speaker 3: I wonder why I act weird and that's probably part
Speaker 3: of it when I'm on drugs. And then like on
Speaker 3: top of that, like I feel like people don't really
Speaker 3: understand why, Like I was kind of going to do
Speaker 3: that position, and I feel like telling people, like like
Speaker 3: it's strange that I could tell you all this stuff,
Speaker 3: but I can't tell someone who I'm close with all
Speaker 3: this stuff, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 4: I'm still coming back to why you feel like because
Speaker 4: you asked is honestly the best policy? And that's kind
Speaker 4: of a blanket that's kind of a blanket statement. But
Speaker 4: is that what in these in this particular. Let's assume
Speaker 4: you have a relationship in mind that you're asking this about.
Speaker 4: What is it about that particular RelA What is it
Speaker 4: about that particular relationship that you're apprehensive about sharing stuff?
Speaker 3: Well, I just I think I'm just scared of the rejection,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, what if I tell
Speaker 3: someone like about who I am and like what I
Speaker 3: do and all of these things, and then they get
Speaker 3: upset about it and they don't, like, you know, they
Speaker 3: have their own purposes about these kinds of things, and
Speaker 3: I think they're, like, they're just gonna want to place
Speaker 3: me away.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 4: This is actually, this topic is something I actually struggle
Speaker 4: with in my life a lot. And I'm I'm a
Speaker 4: pretty open book about a lot of things. I'm like
Speaker 4: I tell my friends and my family like everything I've
Speaker 4: definitely shared.
Speaker 2: I've definitely overextended myself.
Speaker 4: And shared things and like been as much of an
Speaker 4: open book as like I reasonably can. There's definitely things
Speaker 4: that I still like keep to the chest, even among
Speaker 4: like friends and family and what not. But it's a question,
Speaker 4: it's kind of a question, is honestly the best policy.
Speaker 4: It's it's really a question of like how do you
Speaker 4: want to be right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Like, how do you want to do you? And it's
Speaker 4: hard because it's a it's a hard choice. I think
Speaker 4: about this all the time. Man, it's a hard choice.
Speaker 4: Do you want to feel lighter and like you don't
Speaker 4: have anything to hide and like you're.
Speaker 2: Comfortable sharing.
Speaker 4: With people and that you're okay with who you are,
Speaker 4: You're okay with expressing.
Speaker 2: Who you are.
Speaker 4: You're like, you're really comfortable and okay with your truth
Speaker 4: and accepting the whatever the consequences of that is. And
Speaker 4: I don't and is honestly the best policy.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that there is a best policy that's
Speaker 4: up to you. Some days, some days I feel like
Speaker 4: it's an empowering thing to be the most yourself as possible,
Speaker 4: and in other days I'm like, no, I think that's
Speaker 4: dumb and you should, uh, you know, be strategic and
Speaker 4: intentional about it. But it's it's whatever philosophy you want
Speaker 4: to add here to, and it's a very internal thing.
Speaker 2: It's really not a thing to do based on like.
Speaker 4: How other people will perceive you. It's like what kind
Speaker 4: of relationships do you want to have? Do you feel
Speaker 4: like it? Do you and your gut feel like this
Speaker 4: will be a benefit to my life, this will deepen
Speaker 4: my relationships, I'll feel better? Or are you like, let's
Speaker 4: keep that on the wraps, Let's swallow that up into
Speaker 4: my own black hole. Let's not tell anyone about that,
Speaker 4: and let's just assume.
Speaker 1: Let's just.
Speaker 4: Dive deep into a different facet of my identity that
Speaker 4: has nothing to do with that darker stuff.
Speaker 2: And enjoy living in that.
Speaker 4: And let me tell you something, my friend, that's not
Speaker 4: a bad that's not a bad way to be at all.
Speaker 2: But it's up to you.
Speaker 4: It's a very like kind of personal and philosophical choice
Speaker 4: of how you want to live.
Speaker 2: I'm not against that.
Speaker 4: I'm not if you want to go like, if you
Speaker 4: want to mentally be like, I'm gonna flip a switch
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna again explore this other facade of myself
Speaker 4: that I'm more proud of. And I'm gonna keep the
Speaker 4: darkness to myself and process it alone and not let
Speaker 4: it interfere with my life. Perfect legitimate. But if you
Speaker 4: wanna in the load of your darkness to other people
Speaker 4: and try to thrive in whatever sense you can as
Speaker 4: as that that's okay too. I don't have a good
Speaker 4: I don't have a correct answer because my my my
Speaker 4: personal feeling changes day to day.
Speaker 3: Yeah hmm, well yeah, I mean I guess I just
Speaker 3: gotta you know, to get day by day and like
Speaker 3: kind of kind of make the choice of, like, you know,
Speaker 3: what I do want to tell people, what I don't
Speaker 3: want to tell people, because I think, like, especially when
Speaker 3: I went to therapy, I do like PPT therapy, and
Speaker 3: like what my therapist saw me was that like there's
Speaker 3: a good like puniance square that you can do based
Speaker 3: on like with the rewards, this is the consequences of
Speaker 3: situation you're going to be and what decision you're going
Speaker 3: to make interesting, And I think that that's like probably
Speaker 3: gonna be prett helpful in that kind of case, because like,
Speaker 3: there are friends that I definitely want to be closer
Speaker 3: to because I think there's the things that I admired
Speaker 3: about them that I also want to like have my
Speaker 3: own life. But I don't see and I wonder if, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to tell people too much
Speaker 3: and then like have them worried. I mean obviously, right,
Speaker 3: that's like obviously not a necessarily good thing to have,
Speaker 3: and you know, I am getting to a better place
Speaker 3: for everything, So it's just kind of like maybe I
Speaker 3: just can get to let time pass and just be
Speaker 3: myself and just kind of like see how things go.
Speaker 3: It is one of those things where it's kind of
Speaker 3: a hard decision, Like I understand, like I kind of
Speaker 3: did a lot of stuff that I'm not really super
Speaker 3: proud of, but at the same time, it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, you're going to do yourself at the end
Speaker 3: of your day, and like being your most authentic self
Speaker 3: is the most important thing, right So.
Speaker 4: Due wouldn't it be crazy if I just started, like
Speaker 4: if I just changed my voice into Joe Biden right now.
Speaker 2: And I was like it was Vinny the whole time,
Speaker 2: you bitch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 2: Uh uh what what? What's the dream role? What do
Speaker 2: we do?
Speaker 4: Are you Seymour from Little Shop? You seem too cool
Speaker 4: to be Seymour? Oh what, you're the fucking dentist, dude,
Speaker 4: I see that You're gonna You're gonna be the fuck
Speaker 4: I totally see you being the dentist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, I just learned taps. So my friend was
Speaker 3: to me, I can play squiight weeks from SpongeBob.
Speaker 4: Dude, I've been this. I've been wanting to see the
Speaker 4: SpongeBob musical for a while. I don't know where to
Speaker 4: see it. Where is it playing? Do I have to
Speaker 4: fly to Minnesota or something?
Speaker 3: No, bro, I usually use like uh they call them
Speaker 3: uh slime tutorials on YouTube. You can find almost anything
Speaker 3: on YouTube. Yeah, any show you want to watch, they're
Speaker 3: all on YouTube. YouTube has a pretty good program right now,
Speaker 3: probably like and they're all still up and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I have to say up for a long time because's
Speaker 3: a lot of shit shows on there.
Speaker 2: Do you have a favor Do you have a favorite musical?
Speaker 3: I was kind of going through like a Godspell phase.
Speaker 3: I really like some of the scenes of Godsa Like
Speaker 3: they just have good it's a good vibe. I think
Speaker 3: it's like the way that they tell all these different
Speaker 3: stories to different vendetta it's pretty good. But also like
Speaker 3: Into the Woods is the Great News, So I really
Speaker 3: like Into the Woods.
Speaker 2: Ellis.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer.
Speaker 6: Before we go, No, sweet, I appreciate you out, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Of course, man, good luck and uh I'll see you.
Speaker 4: I'll see you on the big stage one day.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Keep doing great work, bro, Thank you all.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Man, have a good one.
Speaker 6: But that was cool.
Speaker 4: I was not expecting him to say musical theater, interesting, gentlemen.
Speaker 4: I hope he has a successful ARC.
Speaker 2: I believe in him.
Speaker 5: Hey is this while?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 2: How's it going? Man?
Speaker 5: It's going. I've been calling you for a while.
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 1: Player?
Speaker 5: H Oh, we're gonna go Gary Man.
Speaker 2: Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary. You got a good vibe. Gary.
Speaker 2: I like you already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, I like you too. I've been watching your
Speaker 1: podcast at work almost like every day for the last
Speaker 1: three months. It's been great. I really enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, man.
Speaker 1: What's sorry? What's that well?
Speaker 5: Oh, we're going camping right now.
Speaker 1: We're in the car, so it's a little bumpy.
Speaker 2: Oh it's all right. I can actually hear you very well.
Speaker 5: Oh that's great.
Speaker 4: You texted me and you said I'd like to talk
Speaker 4: about my dad's annoying girlfriends.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, was actually okay.
Speaker 1: So I was living with my dad for a while.
Speaker 1: We just got a place not too long ago because
Speaker 1: of her. But my brother's been going through it because
Speaker 1: he moved back in with my dad and she is
Speaker 1: just bullying them a whole lot.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's in bullying her him a lot lately. And uh,
Speaker 1: it sucks because I care about my brother a lot.
Speaker 5: And they did the same thing to me.
Speaker 1: Months before that. So my girlfriend right now, Oh the cows.
Speaker 1: My girlfriend's she's going through it for a long time
Speaker 1: with her as well. And they actually got into a
Speaker 1: fight and one day and she pushed her and she
Speaker 1: did like one of those things where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to act like I got pushed really hard,
Speaker 1: but it really wasn't hard. And she fell on a cushion,
Speaker 1: and she acted like it hurt. But she fell on
Speaker 1: a cushion, right, It's a cushion. It can't hurt that much. Anyways,
Speaker 1: she was like, you assaulted me. I'm going to call
Speaker 1: the police. And I was like, well, we're not going
Speaker 1: to do that. We're just going to leave, right. So
Speaker 1: after that happened, I was like homeless with her for
Speaker 1: about two weeks, and I was traveling for work for
Speaker 1: a while during this time, so I would travel and
Speaker 1: then come back on the weekends and we would just
Speaker 1: figure out a place to live, and she would come
Speaker 1: and travel with me. Anyways, so we found our own place,
Speaker 1: and so now I'm getting to the part where Okay,
Speaker 1: so we got our own place, so she can't bully
Speaker 1: us anymore. So then what does she do. She goes
Speaker 1: to my brother his girlfriend and starts pulling her. But
Speaker 1: she has a thing where it's like she just targets women.
Speaker 1: It's weird. She wouldn't be like really mean to us
Speaker 1: or I'm not us but me and my brother, but
Speaker 1: she would be mean to the women.
Speaker 4: What exactly, what exactly did her and your girlfriend get
Speaker 4: into a fight about.
Speaker 5: Okay, this was kind of funny. It's kind of off topic.
Speaker 1: But I was doing community service, right and I had
Speaker 1: stuff in my car and I had to take some
Speaker 1: people with me. So then I asked somebody from who
Speaker 1: I was doing the community service with. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: can I put my stuff in your car and so
Speaker 1: you guys can rub me? Because he didn't have a license,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to get in a
Speaker 1: car somebody that doesn't have a license. I don't need
Speaker 1: that extra stuff. So I put my stuff in his car.
Speaker 1: And then when we finished our community service, I kind
Speaker 1: of forgot it. And after that, dude, I went back home.
Speaker 1: And then halfway when I was going back home, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I love my girlfriend. It
Speaker 1: was my girlfriend stuff. It wasn't just my it was
Speaker 1: my girlfriend stuff. And I was like, oh man. So
Speaker 1: then afterwards I went over to my parents and I
Speaker 1: was like, can you guys help me find this guy?
Speaker 1: Can we like track him down? And so we're we're like,
Speaker 1: I'm basically freaking out. They're trying to come up with
Speaker 1: an idea, and then we bring her down because it's
Speaker 1: her stuff, and she was already pissed off because I
Speaker 1: told her about before I told them, and we were
Speaker 1: trying to help her out, and she just started saying
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff that was like not on
Speaker 1: topic about the deal that we were having beforehand, and
Speaker 1: then that kind of sparked everything else where. They were
Speaker 1: like calling each other names and this and that, and
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to get too vulgar with it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was a fight.
Speaker 4: Okay, how does your dad How long has your dad
Speaker 4: and this lady been together?
Speaker 1: I would say about a year now. This is kind
Speaker 1: of so to kind of backtrack, my mom passed away
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty one, and yeah, you know, it sucks,
Speaker 1: you know, but we're still here. You know, we're still surviving.
Speaker 1: We're in this world. I miss her every day, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know, we're here, so it's fun. Other than that,
Speaker 1: then he was just going through a dark part in
Speaker 1: his life, and you know, he found her and then
Speaker 1: they started getting together and everything, and that's kind of
Speaker 1: how they kind of, I guess, became together, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like your dad really likes her? Is
Speaker 2: he like in love with her? You think?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think I think he does. And that's
Speaker 1: troubling too, because my grandparents don't even like like her
Speaker 1: a whole lot. Apparently my grandparents my grandma and specifically
Speaker 1: she used to work with her. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: how my dad and her also, I guess maybe knew
Speaker 1: each other as well. And I also knew that my
Speaker 1: mom hated her. She despises her, and she he says, oh,
Speaker 1: but I loved your mom and this and that, and
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 5: My mom hated you. What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't make any sense, it really doesn't.
Speaker 4: So this lady is just kind of like picking fights
Speaker 4: with your well not because she only picks fights with
Speaker 4: the women, So she is picking fights with your girlfriend,
Speaker 4: and now she's picking fights with your brother's girlfriend. But
Speaker 4: you're out of there. You're not living with your dad anymore.
Speaker 4: You're running around on your own.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm I'm doing real good for myself now.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: I got I got out of there. I'm twenty three currently. Man,
Speaker 1: gotta be twenty four.
Speaker 2: Cool man?
Speaker 4: And what's and then what's your brother's deal? You're worried
Speaker 4: about your brother because he's still back there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he can't get out because he just works
Speaker 1: at a movie theater, man, which is a cool job.
Speaker 1: I mean I get free movies all the time, which
Speaker 1: is great, but it just doesn't make him any money.
Speaker 1: And his girlfriend never gets any job, so she can't
Speaker 1: move about. I only live in a studio, so it's
Speaker 1: not like I can take them under the wing or
Speaker 1: anything either.
Speaker 5: So they're just stuck in a pickle.
Speaker 1: Man. And I'm like, I'm there for him and everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody else I have to be there for. But you know,
Speaker 1: I have think that I'm going through as well, and.
Speaker 2: I've what's happening in your life?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 4: I was sorry but what's going on in your life?
Speaker 1: Well, on a different note, I guess, uh something else
Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of talk to you about. Are
Speaker 1: a kid passed away back in September, geez man last year.
Speaker 1: That's been something that's weighed me down a whole lot.
Speaker 1: And you know, he he had a It's something that
Speaker 1: I think people could learn from too. He had a
Speaker 1: basically limb body wall disease. And it's a point three, yes,
Speaker 1: zero point three percentile of this ever happening to any
Speaker 1: new newborn child or anything. And it's a it's a
Speaker 1: really rare thing. It happens to very little kids obviously,
Speaker 1: But while he was in development, he just didn't grow
Speaker 1: the right way and it really it really affected his growth.
Speaker 1: And we went to many doctors and everything to figure
Speaker 1: out what was going on. And the crazy thing is,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I shouldn't really I can disclose my
Speaker 1: state that I'm in, But in Kansas, the abortion is
Speaker 1: somewhat legal, I would say, But man, I didn't bring cash, but.
Speaker 5: They told us.
Speaker 1: To go to Colorado to get an abortion. Well that's
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars. I couldn't believe that. How does an
Speaker 1: abortion cost two thousand dollars, but we didn't really want
Speaker 1: to do that anyway, so then we kept it full term.
Speaker 1: We kept him his name was Declin, and we kept
Speaker 1: him full term. I got to hold him for almost
Speaker 1: two hours before he passed away.
Speaker 2: Man, damn and shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we figured out afterwards that it didn't have
Speaker 1: to do anything with genetical It was just it was
Speaker 1: just bad luck, man, Like it just happens to very
Speaker 1: few people. And you know, I think it's it was
Speaker 1: kind of a learning curb. I guess for us as
Speaker 1: a couple as well, Like we learned a lot from
Speaker 1: each other and during that time, and it was it's
Speaker 1: just it's just something to learn from. Man.
Speaker 5: That's what life is.
Speaker 1: Is all about experiences, and you know what to do
Speaker 1: after things like that happen.
Speaker 2: You know, bro, how long ago? How long ago did
Speaker 2: this happen?
Speaker 1: Well, it was back in September, so I would say,
Speaker 1: I think that was. Oh I haven't right on my
Speaker 1: I just got a tattoo of his name in the day.
Speaker 1: So it's September of twenty five, so those last year.
Speaker 4: Almost Damn dude, man, I gotta tell you, man, for
Speaker 4: a guy who's had a lot of fucked up shit
Speaker 4: happened to him. You sound like you are maintaining quite
Speaker 4: jovial spirits and respect it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, man, Like that's how I like
Speaker 1: to take life. And you know, I do things with
Speaker 1: my girlfriend all the time. I have very few friends.
Speaker 1: I used to have a lot of friends, but nowadays
Speaker 1: I just have a few good friends. And I feel
Speaker 1: like that's all you need is a few good friends
Speaker 1: in life, and you know, family, as much family as
Speaker 1: you can get. I mean, what, right, here's fine?
Speaker 2: What do you got?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What are you? What are you and your girlfriend doing
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 1: We're trying to figure out a place to the park
Speaker 1: currently for our little camp site.
Speaker 2: Oh oh right, yes, you're going camping. I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, we just we just arrived over here.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: So I mean, how did your how did your fucking
Speaker 4: how did your girlfriend take it? Because I mean for her,
Speaker 4: it's like that's a I mean, that's it's a totally
Speaker 4: different thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean, you know, postpartum and everything.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a whole different thing for sure, and
Speaker 1: the depression and everything. But we've been holding up pretty okay,
Speaker 1: I think, don't you think you've been doing pretty decent lately.
Speaker 1: Lyle's asking See says no, how does she is?
Speaker 4: How does she feel about you talking about this? By
Speaker 4: the way, because I talked to her about it, but
Speaker 4: it's a very deeply personal thing. You know, I don't
Speaker 4: know what her you know, how she feels about it?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about her baby pass?
Speaker 3: In a way?
Speaker 7: It's unfair, it's stupid. Can you hear me?
Speaker 3: She?
Speaker 4: I mean, if she wants, if she wants to talk
Speaker 4: on the if you want to give her the fun,
Speaker 4: she can talk if she wants.
Speaker 7: It's unfair. It's stupid. It makes me hate people a
Speaker 7: lot more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what's your what's your name? What's your name?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I can if you want to handle the fucking talk
Speaker 2: to her.
Speaker 7: Oh you're on speaker, You're okay, okay?
Speaker 4: Al said, wait, sorry, can you take me off of
Speaker 4: the speaker and handle the phone. It's kind of hard
Speaker 4: to hear if we do the speakerphone thing. Sorry, Uh, no, worries.
Speaker 4: What's what's your name?
Speaker 7: Alison?
Speaker 2: Alison?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 2: How's how how you doing? Alison?
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm holding on, I'm vibing.
Speaker 4: I guess how is it sounds like Gary has uh
Speaker 4: quite good spirits just in general.
Speaker 2: He seems like a well spirited man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he is. We try to keep positive about everything,
Speaker 7: especially what's happened in the last year, because we can't
Speaker 7: really do anything about it, so we don't really want
Speaker 7: to just be sad all the time, so we try
Speaker 7: to keep our heads to end our best.
Speaker 2: How'd to go with So you're the one that got
Speaker 2: into the fight with his dad's girlfriend.
Speaker 7: Yeah, fuck that bitch. I'm sorry. I don't know if
Speaker 7: I can cuss. I gone. No, that bitch is so annoying.
Speaker 7: When he got his like travel job, he was like
Speaker 7: gone all the time, and it was just when our
Speaker 7: kid passed, so I was like going through postpartum and
Speaker 7: like grieving and everything. And whenever he would leave this
Speaker 7: whenever he was at home, everything was fine, but whenever
Speaker 7: he'd leave, like she would literally attack me and give
Speaker 7: me so much attitude for no reason. I'd literally wake
Speaker 7: up some days and go downstairs and get something to
Speaker 7: eat or drink and she would just yell at me
Speaker 7: for no reason. And he literally had to start paying
Speaker 7: his dad like money for rent so she would leave
Speaker 7: us alone. Case got about Yeah, because when we moved
Speaker 7: back to his dad's. He wanted Gary to save the
Speaker 7: most money he can and everything, but she just would
Speaker 7: not stop bothering me. So we made a deal like, hey,
Speaker 7: like if we pay you this money, she has to
Speaker 7: leave me alone because I don't do anything to her.
Speaker 7: I don't know why she's all up my ass all
Speaker 7: the time, like tm I. But she would literally ask
Speaker 7: him how my personal hygiene was. She'd always keep truck
Speaker 7: on when I had my periods and everything. Anytime I'd
Speaker 7: go into the bathroom to change, like my tampon, she
Speaker 7: would like go in the bathroom afterwards and check it
Speaker 7: out like whoa.
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait wait wait right she would she
Speaker 4: would she would look at your tampon.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she would track every time I would change my tampon.
Speaker 7: She would always ask Gary, like about my personal hygiene
Speaker 7: or something like she wanted to be with me, Like
Speaker 7: she's always up my ass, like she did that weirdo shit.
Speaker 7: And so when he like lost my stuff in that
Speaker 7: guy's car. He just met him that day, and it
Speaker 7: had like our babies, Like when we had our baby,
Speaker 7: we all had matching blankets. In my matching blanket was
Speaker 7: in that man's car. And I got pissed the fuck off,
Speaker 7: and he told me like, let's go downstairs to talk
Speaker 7: to my dad. I was like, okay, cool, I don't
Speaker 7: want to talk to you know, her about it because
Speaker 7: I have no reason to talk to her about it.
Speaker 7: And when we get downstairs, she I was trying to
Speaker 7: talk to his dad and everything, and I was pissed
Speaker 7: off obviously, like we don't know this guy, like he
Speaker 7: could be a perr, like all my girl stuff is
Speaker 7: in there, he could just say fuck it and sell it,
Speaker 7: like there's always these what ifs, like you never know,
Speaker 7: and we don't have a way to get in contact
Speaker 7: with this guy or anything, and he would. She just
Speaker 7: kept on talking to me, and I just kept on
Speaker 7: telling her, like getting louder every single time, like I
Speaker 7: don't want to talk to you, like I was promised
Speaker 7: to talk to his dad, not you. And she's like, well,
Speaker 7: we're a couple, so we're together, Like I'm a part
Speaker 7: of it no matter what. And I was like, he
Speaker 7: says on person like blah blah blah blah. And she
Speaker 7: was telling me I can always get new stuff. Girl
Speaker 7: stuff is expensive. First of one, who's gonna be paying
Speaker 7: for that? Who got money to make me a new wardrobe,
Speaker 7: Like here's stuff, shower stuff, like that's a lot of money.
Speaker 7: And my baby's blanket, I can never get that back.
Speaker 7: Like I cuddled with him in that, like I slept
Speaker 7: with him in that because we got to keep him
Speaker 7: in the hospital for a few days till we left.
Speaker 7: And she's just over here talking about, oh, it's you
Speaker 7: can get new stuff. It's fine, it's fine. And I
Speaker 7: was like, I don't know how you treat your stuff,
Speaker 7: but I don't treat mine like garbage, like I don't
Speaker 7: care about it like I care about my stuff. Like
Speaker 7: treat your stuff however you want it, forget it.
Speaker 1: Fuck it, whatever.
Speaker 7: But that's not how I am. And she got pissy
Speaker 7: at me, and she like stepped all the way like
Speaker 7: to across the living room, and then we were like
Speaker 7: yelling and screaming at each other. And then she stepped
Speaker 7: to me, like she stomped and got into my face
Speaker 7: and she was yelling at me, and I was like
Speaker 7: up against a couch, so I pushed her off of me,
Speaker 7: and then she like got up and tried to fight me,
Speaker 7: and her dad had well, his dad had to hold
Speaker 7: her back, and she kept on, claiming she had so
Speaker 7: many marks on her and she's gonna call the police
Speaker 7: on me and all of this.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad, Okay.
Speaker 7: Did have to do me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: You guys were just staying in Wiland.
Speaker 2: All right? Well, do you guys have anything you're looking
Speaker 2: forward to? Talking about the camping trip? Well, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: sorry for what.
Speaker 7: Oh I didn't hear you all the way?
Speaker 2: Oh uh? Do you guys have stuff that you're looking
Speaker 2: forward to?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: To relax kind of just not have any stress or
Speaker 7: to rely on things or anything. We can just sit
Speaker 7: back and relax and chill out. How far are you guys?
Speaker 2: How far are you guys?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 1: Gary?
Speaker 4: Do you do you guys have any Do you guys
Speaker 4: have anything that you're looking forward to?
Speaker 2: Do you have anything you're looking forward to?
Speaker 4: We've got you know what, Gary, I appreciate you giving
Speaker 4: me a nice little peek into your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, give me a peak into your life.
Speaker 4: You got a lot going on, and yeah, I honestly,
Speaker 4: what I'm me the most about this call is that
Speaker 4: you you you simply just maintain a high spirits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, man, you got to, I mean, with
Speaker 1: everything that happens in life. I've always been able to
Speaker 1: move forward. That's what you got to do. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't sit back and relook the past. You got
Speaker 1: to keep moving.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: If you don't, then you're just going to stay in
Speaker 1: a stagnant place. And you know, I wouldn't be where
Speaker 1: I am today if I just stayed in that stagnant place,
Speaker 1: stayed in my ways.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: So what's the future. So what's the future looking like
Speaker 2: for you guys? What's on the horizon.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking forward to I started a new
Speaker 1: business with my best friend and it's a landscaping company.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to shout it out or anything, there's
Speaker 1: no need for that, but I'm looking forward to that,
Speaker 1: you know, staying staying in my place of where I
Speaker 1: need to be in the universe, helping out anybody that
Speaker 1: I can. I mean, that's that's all you can do.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if I just didn't do anything to
Speaker 1: support a community of where I'm at right now, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't feel like I I've had a purpose
Speaker 1: in life. And I'm I admit I've been very depressed
Speaker 1: for many months, but I feel like in this point
Speaker 1: in my life right now, I'm the happiest that I've
Speaker 1: been in a long time.
Speaker 2: That's great, man, that's really really wonderful to hear. That's cool.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Respect, deep, deep, deep respect to you, my brother.
Speaker 4: I love Uh, I mean shit, dude, I mean that's
Speaker 4: one of the worst things that can ever happen to
Speaker 4: a person, and the fact that you are able to
Speaker 4: continue to still live and thrive through it is very Uh,
Speaker 4: it's very cool. It's very inspiring, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: How I keep a head on my shoulders a lot
Speaker 1: of time it amazes even me sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you doing.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: So dude, some people, what you say.
Speaker 1: Somebody's still in the fireplace that we were gonna have.
Speaker 1: But what a pap here?
Speaker 2: Oh fun? What was I gonna say? Oh? Uh oh?
Speaker 2: Some people are just built for life, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: life is crazy. Some people are just built to handle it.
Speaker 1: And some people aren't as well. Man. I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of people that just stay stuck in their own ways.
Speaker 1: They never want to change. My dad's kind of that way.
Speaker 1: He just he's not a person of change. He stayed
Speaker 1: the same job, the same thing, And I think that's
Speaker 1: why I live a life where I love change because
Speaker 1: I've seen my dad go through it for so long.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I've been an electrician, I've been
Speaker 1: doing maintenance, I've I've always adapted to whatever environment I've
Speaker 1: been through and whatever state I've been through, whether it's
Speaker 1: traveling or you know, even being back in my hometown.
Speaker 1: I mean, I always find a way to thrive, and
Speaker 1: I think that's important. I don't think you should just
Speaker 1: stay in your same ways all the time, but not
Speaker 1: everybody can be like that either.
Speaker 4: Gary Man, is there anything else that you and your
Speaker 4: and your girl want to say to the people of
Speaker 4: the computer before we go?
Speaker 1: You know what, it was great talking to you. I've
Speaker 1: been waiting for this moment for a while. Look your content.
Speaker 1: But I would say, love one another and always strive
Speaker 1: for better, never strive for worse. And I think that's
Speaker 1: very important for people to understand. If you stay by yourself,
Speaker 1: if you don't ever have anything change in your life,
Speaker 1: you live born life. Man, you need to spice it
Speaker 1: up every now and then. That's why we're going camping.
Speaker 1: That's why we try to spice things up, because fuck it,
Speaker 1: why not?
Speaker 5: You only get one life.
Speaker 2: I'm pro doing things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you went to Iran, man, I would
Speaker 1: never do it's.
Speaker 2: Iraq, but you know, oh Iraq. But whatever, I'm cool.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: A girl want to say anything.
Speaker 5: You want to say anything.
Speaker 7: No, I'm baby.
Speaker 4: I heard her say no. She seems busy. She seems
Speaker 4: like she's doing her own thing. But but thank you Gary,
Speaker 4: good luck and have a have a nice weekend camping man.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, I'll come talk to you again in another
Speaker 1: couple of months maybe.
Speaker 2: No, take care Gary, All right, thanks you too, man.
Speaker 1: See all right bye, man.
Speaker 4: I gotta start. I gotta start fucking getting on the
Speaker 4: Gary wave of life. Gary seems like Gary just figures
Speaker 4: out how to let the worst things imaginable right just
Speaker 4: roll off his shoulders.
Speaker 2: I respect it.
Speaker 4: Be K goes on the line, taking your phone calls
Speaker 4: every night, never becon, goes to and his ride. He's
Speaker 4: teaching you about in the middle of your life, but
Speaker 4: he's not really an expert.