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Speaker 1: Pushkin. Brittany Howard has never really been the type to

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Speaker 1: personal directions. She's spent the last decade refusing to stay

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Speaker 1: band mate Zach Cockrell and Heath Fog for a new

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Speaker 1: Alabama Shake's album, I Must Be Dreaming, their first in

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Speaker 1: eleven years, and on today's episode, I sit down with

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Speaker 1: Brittany to talk about what it took to bring the

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Speaker 1: This is broken record, real musicians, real conversations. Here's my

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Speaker 1: conversation with Brittany Howard. All right, so LA two days

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: I feel good, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready to go home. I've been on the

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Speaker 2: road a little bit, not very much, but went to

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Speaker 2: Red Rocks immediately from like five hundred feet above sea

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Speaker 2: level felt great. The first day. Second day hit me.

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, all day nausea, coolest, do the show.

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Speaker 2: Let's roll it to the show. Awesome. Then we go

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Speaker 2: over to Reno and Reno, I didn't know the crowd

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the crowd was crazy. They're like standing up in

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah to one of the new.

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Speaker 2: Songs, nah to Gemini. I've never seen anybody slow dance

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Speaker 2: That was cooled. That was different. It was interesting. And

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Speaker 1: How was that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I love Degree. That's great. That's a beautiful Like

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Speaker 2: Well? Okay, So we have this buddy and he owns

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Speaker 2: Like I always told people, it's like, look, I never

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think our tastes have grown. I think we're

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Speaker 1: You know how shocked I was when I read to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would sneak out and go to these

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Speaker 2: and I never thought he would actually be in my group,

435
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 2: but that's how it worked out.

436
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,199
Speaker 1: That's great, man. I mean, you guys, this music was ever.

437
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 1: You guys were touring everywhere.

438
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it kind of happened like we became

439
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 2: this unit. We were writing songs, but we didn't have

440
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 2: anywhere to play the songs because in North Alabama they

441
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,239
Speaker 2: honestly wanted you to play four hours of covers. It

442
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 2: was kind of rare back then to find a place

443
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 2: where they wanted original music, like there's this one place

444
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 2: and never would call us back like it was. And

445
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,199
Speaker 2: I was the booking agent. I was the manager, like,

446
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 2: you know, I'm putting everything I had into it. And

447
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: then Heath was like, oh, you know, we should go

448
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: down to Tuscaloosa. They let bands play original music there. Cool.

449
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 2: So Tuchcalusa is probably like, I don't know, like two

450
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: or three hours away from where we're from. So we

451
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 2: all hop in the car, get our gear, go down

452
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 2: there and set up at this little bar called Egan's

453
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: and that's we started playing our songs and people loved it.

454
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 2: They responded to it. Went back again, went back again,

455
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 2: went back again. And we also started playing this place

456
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 2: called The Brick, which was in Decatur, Alabama, and we

457
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 2: have fans like we have fans, you know. People liked it,

458
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: and then we recorded a city. It all kind of

459
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: starts from actually recording your music and sharing it, like

460
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: it really does. Yeah, that's how everything starts. And so yeah,

461
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: we had this demo and we recorded, like I remember,

462
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: we went to this place called Pegasus Records, and it

463
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: was like during a festival called w C. Handy Festival

464
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: is in Florence, Alabama. It's gonna be recorded and we're

465
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 2: gonna get to keep the recordings and put them online

466
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: and this whole thing. And I'm like, awesome. We perform

467
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 2: and there's this fella there named Patterson Hood. He's just

468
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: sing or drop by truckers, and we looked up to

469
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: them because you know, some of them guys were from

470
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: North Alabama and they were able to get out and

471
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 2: tour y, and to us, that was the goal, like

472
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 2: if we could tour like we're made.

473
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: You know, they were really doing that.

474
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really doing it, of course, of course. Yeah.

475
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: And so he saw us and called his managers and

476
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 2: was like, you need to come check this band out.

477
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: And that's what happened. And I feel like from that

478
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: moment we were able to open up for them. I

479
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: quit my job, like, I quit my job like as

480
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: fast as I could.

481
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 1: Where were you at?

482
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: I was delivering mail for the United States Postal Service,

483
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: and you know at that job, they work you hard.

484
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: I only just discovered recently, like how crazy some of

485
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: the demands are. Ye, it's crazy, Like you have X

486
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 1: amount of seconds per house, like because you have to

487
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: get around the block and X amount of minutes and

488
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: if you don't then.

489
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: That's like, oh yeah, let's talk about it.

490
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know this. Yeah, that's real.

491
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: Yes, it's real. I was delivering mail and tornadoes, not

492
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: one tornado, but several tornadoes. They had me out there

493
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: and I called my supervisor, and I was like, hey,

494
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back, and she's like, no, no, no, no, no,

495
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 2: you can't come back. Go deliver the mail just faster,

496
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: and then come back faster before more tornado show up.

497
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: I was like, man, no.

498
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: That's not much Charlie rain Hell sleep snow tornado. Yeah,

499
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: that's not that's not in the slogan.

500
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 2: No, I was not trying to die for nobody's mail.

501
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: So that's wild.

502
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, And luckily, you know, we had that opportunity to

503
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: go tour open for the truckers, and then we started,

504
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: you know, more people started hearing about us, and then

505
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: we went in did the CMJ Festival, and then journalists

506
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: started writing about us, and we were on block. It

507
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: just kind of like built, you know. And we had

508
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: been around writing music and doing our things, especially me

509
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: as accents, like two thousand and five, two thousand and four,

510
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: and it kind of all just started happening, like the

511
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 2: dreams were happening. I couldn't believe it. It's like it's like

512
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: someone spoke into existence, you know, and yeah, started there.

513
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from the hour. It

514
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: sounds like you were the one who was motivated to

515
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, as the booker, et cetera, to get things

516
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: to the next level. But if you had really thought

517
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: about it, it's not like there was really a place

518
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: for an act like y'all at that point, you know

519
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: what I mean, like a like a at a fest

520
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: like you know, the Driver's Truckers, even as big as

521
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: they were, So I don't's my memory suris they weren't

522
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: getting booked at like a Coachella or you know, at

523
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: the big festivals like that, you know, because they don't

524
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: think there were thinking of roots music or music that

525
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: had that lilt to it as being like hip at

526
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: that time.

527
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I guess. You know, our heroes were

528
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: the things going on at depth tone and also the

529
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: music we grew up on, like Otis Redding and the Supremes,

530
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: you know, all led zepp On, all the stuff I

531
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: named before. It's like that was what was that was

532
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: our guiding light. We never imagined other people would respond

533
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 2: how they did when we kind of mixed these things together.

534
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: And and I don't know, I guess when I think

535
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: about it, I knew a lot of groups that were

536
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: kind of doing what we were doing. I think it

537
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: was just like everything had to line up like divine,

538
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 2: Like everything had to line up for it to work. Yeah,

539
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: you know, we had to have the right people behind

540
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 2: us too, Like anybody could have took our sound and

541
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: managed it incorrectly and none of this could have happened.

542
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: That's true.

543
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: We had to have the right booking agent that was

544
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 2: putting us in the right spots with the right people,

545
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: and those things worked. Yeah, But I mean I never

546
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: would have imagined like us from Athens, Alabama, which back

547
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: then was a small town. You know, we had a

548
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 2: we had like a sheriff's rodeo, That's kind of what

549
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: we had going on. And now we're like playing Coachella,

550
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: like we're headline in Coachella. Like you know, I'm still

551
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: like pinched me to this day because it's like I

552
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: can't believe the trajectory our lives took.

553
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: It's wild. I mean, your voice is a huge part

554
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: of it because in that time, when if I go

555
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: to if I went to a festival and you guys

556
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: were on the bill, there'd be a moment invariably happened

557
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: at least a few times where I'd be walking from

558
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: one stage to another hear your voice, like damn, just like,

559
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: let's just pull you in, like I'm gonna go that way.

560
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: I didn't even know they're playing right now, but here

561
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: I go. I'm following this sound, you know, because your

562
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: voice just goes.

563
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah as loud as fuck. Yeah, for sure, certainly.

564
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: Why why laughing?

565
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: I don't know it is. Yeah, you know, It's something

566
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: I didn't discover I could do until I got with

567
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: the guys because we were practicing in my house and

568
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: we didn't have one of m PA systems, so I

569
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: just had like this little practice hamp to sing out of.

570
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: So in order to sing over all the instruments, I

571
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 2: just had to really push yeah, And I didn't know

572
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: I could sing like that until I started playing with them.

573
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 2: It was kind of like a discovery and I was like, oh,

574
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 2: I'll just do this.

575
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

576
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

577
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: Have you ever wrecked your voice?

578
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: Not often really, No, it's just like it's just made

579
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: that way. Yeah. It happens like from overuse. And also

580
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't taking good care of it, so every once

581
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: in a while I will lose a voice, but most

582
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: most most of the time at my shows, like I could,

583
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: I could still do it.

584
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, Yeah, let's play something from the new album. Chres. Yeah,

585
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: let's just listen to a bit of the first track.

586
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: Time kind of struck me when I when I when

587
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: I first put it on, m m m hm.

588
00:27:52,720 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: Hm at all had much.

589
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 5: To the flow.

590
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 6: So f.

591
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: Scroll you like that drum roll. There's still there like

592
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: a still an analog feel to this where it still

593
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: feels like real, like you guys were in a space

594
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: moving air around and that. But there's something about that.

595
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: It almost feels like mad libbish J Dilla ish in

596
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: the like the.

597
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: There's a little there's there's a little hanging back from

598
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: the beat in order to make that baseline work. Okay, yeah,

599
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: that was that's hey, that's that's Zach. That's our best way,

600
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: that's Zach. He showed me that, and I was just like,

601
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: m this will do you know. I couldn't wait to

602
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: cook something on it. I couldn't wait to do something

603
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: with it, you know. And a lot of times on

604
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: this album, that's where it began, Zach Zach's base, and

605
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: he would just start playing something crazy that I've never

606
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: really heard anything like, you know, especially coming from him,

607
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: and I was just like, Wow, I'm very excited to

608
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: write something for this. There's a lot of moments like that, Oh.

609
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: If you had to speak for him, like where where

610
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: does his gene where does his genius lide? Like how

611
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: is he hearing these things?

612
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: I mean, if you know what I know about Zach

613
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: is he's like an encyclopedia. He doesn't forget things that

614
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: I feel like a normal person would just forget. Like

615
00:29:54,680 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: he remembers not only obscure albums, he also remembers everybody

616
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: who played on that obscure album. And then he'll go

617
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: find that bass player and then see everything else he

618
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: played on, and then he'd be like, oh, like this

619
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: guitar player. It's like a it's like a web, and

620
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: he can remember all that stuff. So his references go

621
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: so deep. And I think also, you know, he's a

622
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: he's a huge fan of mad Lib, M F. Doom,

623
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: he's a he's a friend, he's a fan of hip hop.

624
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: So he kind of puts it all together and you know,

625
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: there's something both he and I relate to. And it

626
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: was just another example of like, Okay, let's take something

627
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: like this and mix it with something like this. This

628
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: is something I've kind of never heard before. That's exciting,

629
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: And that's kind of how we got there.

630
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how early And was that one of the

631
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: songs that was going to be part of that initial

632
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: few records like the single.

633
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: Maybe it was kind of one of those things where

634
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: we're just going in and seeing what sticks, like what

635
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: can we complete? What's exciting to us? Yeah? Yeah, I'd

636
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: say it was one of the ones. It was like

637
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: early on.

638
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, and not a lot of guitar on it, just

639
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 7: a little bit, just a little bit where would there

640
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 7: be room for guitars, Like, there's a little guitar, it's

641
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 7: a little bit, but it's more like we could tell

642
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 7: that this song was gonna be like the melody, the bassline,

643
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 7: and the slack drums.

644
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what made it. That's what made it

645
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: stand out to me though it's being the first for

646
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: it being the first song back that you hear. I mean,

647
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: I guess I heard the singles first one. I'm like,

648
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the album on and listen to it.

649
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: For that to be the thing that I heard, I

650
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: was like, wow, it's just like this is It's what

651
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: made me feel like this is a little the same

652
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: but also pretty different. It was a bull move.

653
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like I do I am aware that there's

654
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: gonna be fans of hold On that are going to

655
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: hear them and be like, you know what I'm saying.

656
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: I'm like different now, but I'm I'm open to opening

657
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: people's minds. So let it be the first track.

658
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, do you think both those things bands can

659
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: exist together?

660
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: Oh for sure? Yeah, Oh for sure, still room for

661
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: that absolutely. I mean think about groups like Pink Floyd

662
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: and how much that music has changed. You didn't even

663
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: think about Led Zeppelin, and if you go from their

664
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: first album to their last album, how much has changed

665
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: and developed. It's like it touches on these things that

666
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: are the foundation of the group. But I feel like

667
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: they were still able to go into new territory and explore,

668
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: and I feel like that's why the group lasted so long.

669
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: It is striking because I don't. I tend to stick

670
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: to the early Zeppelin albums. Yeah, late I've been going

671
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: back to like the newer ones that were later in

672
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: their career, and I'm like, wow, yeah they really were,

673
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: because there's they're still so forward thinking or like early on,

674
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: it's still so like this is pretty out there. But yeah,

675
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: yeah they even take it, and they do take it

676
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: a Notch further, Yeah, which is.

677
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: Wild like black Dog compared to dancing days, it's kind

678
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: of different, you know, But I respect that, and I

679
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: can say it the same for like someone like David

680
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: Bowie or even Prince, someone who just kept exploring and

681
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: kept doing their thing, and they're very focused on what

682
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: They're very focused, not on what the public was going

683
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: to say. There are more just focused on like how

684
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: do I keep myself interested? And I think that's what's

685
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: special about those artists and why they're so iconic. I'd

686
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: say the same thing about Byork too. There's like all

687
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: this exploration and reinvention that I think always makes them

688
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: interesting and yeah, I just respect that.

689
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: Do you think about that for yourself? Is that a

690
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: part of your calculus? I guess you do. You think,

691
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: like how do I keep myself moving in interesting ways

692
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: and keeping myself interested and moving the audience along with

693
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: us and all that.

694
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely what pushes me forward and keeps me

695
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: interested in music. There's still so much I don't know,

696
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: There's still so much I haven't discovered. And also, like

697
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: music to me is such an important part of my expression.

698
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: I feel like as long as I'm living I'm going

699
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: to have something to say, something to express, and it's

700
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: not always going to be the same way. It's not

701
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: always going to be in the same genre. To me,

702
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be something that's cohesive. It's just expression.

703
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: I feel like that's one of our gifts as human beings,

704
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: is the ability to do that. And I feel grateful

705
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: that I have an audience for it, you know. Yeah,

706
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: And I got to keep it interesting for myself. You know,

707
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: I just don't think I could keep doing the same

708
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: thing over and over again. That doesn't sound fun.

709
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: A couple of years removed now from it, how did

710
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: it feel doing something out on your own with your

711
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: own name on it as opposed to the band name.

712
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: I feel different, awesome.

713
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was different of course, because, like you know,

714
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: all the mistakes were going to be my mistakes to make.

715
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: If the ship sailed, it's up to me. If it's sank,

716
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: that's on me. It's cool whatever happens, you know. It's

717
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: just something I had always wanted to try to make

718
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: what I'm hearing, what I'm feeling, just like that. And

719
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: for once, like like pretty selfishly, I just didn't want

720
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: any feedback. I just wanted to do it and whatever

721
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: happens happens, you know, and it felt great. Yeah, honestly

722
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: did very freeing in a way.

723
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: So you really were like the final You were the

724
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: lone voice. You would make something and you would be

725
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: the loan critic of whether or not it was gonna

726
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: oh for sure, and how it was gonna work and

727
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: why it was gonna work. Was like, was it did

728
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: it feel? I don't know, did it feel? Just got

729
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: to be hard coming from a group that I mean,

730
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: I guess it's either easy because or feels good because

731
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: you feel free, or it's hard because it's a whole

732
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: new thing way of working that relies solely on you.

733
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: It's a good scary. It's one of them good scaries

734
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: you know, you come across in life. It's just like,

735
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: this is something I've always wanted to try. Now it's here,

736
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: let's do it, and whatever happens happens. At least you

737
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: did it, you know, And I'm lucky that it worked out.

738
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: I'm lucky that I had a fan base that was

739
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: into it and interested and wanted to listen, wanted to

740
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 2: come back, and you know, we went on a grand

741
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: tour across the world, trying to introduce who Britney Howard is.

742
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you have to start. It was kind

743
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 1: of starting over in a way.

744
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was also a rocky start, you know,

745
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,959
Speaker 2: like a lot of artists who were trying to release

746
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: music around COVID. It was like, oh yeah, yeah, but

747
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: we didn't give up. We didn't give up. We went

748
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: back to the studio and we made another one. And

749
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: you know, I intend on still doing that.

750
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, why not, you know, I mean I'm assuming

751
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: also keep Alabama Shak's going, right.

752
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guys want to do it for sure.

753
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

754
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: Like to me, Albama Shaks is like, it's got to

755
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: be something that we're all having fun doing. It's got

756
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 2: to be something that's like we want to express ourselves

757
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: this way. My worst nightmare as a musician at all

758
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: is having to do this because it's my job. I

759
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: would really want to enjoy this. Once it starts stressing

760
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: me out too much, I'm just like, ooh no, Like

761
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: I'll go find something to them still makes me happy,

762
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Because at the end of

763
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: the day, it's like I want to come from my

764
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: honest place. I don't want to just do it to

765
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: make money, and you know, I don't want to do

766
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: it just to be someone who is famous. I think

767
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: like I have. I don't know. I think I got

768
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: an honest approach to it where I just want to

769
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 2: make stuff because I don't fully understand what I'm doing,

770
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: and that's exciting to me.

771
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Did you ever reach a point where you

772
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: were feeling a bit like this isn't fun anymore?

773
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I mean it was like it was like

774
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: one of them. It's one of the good problems. It's like, listen,

775
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: we could keep toring, we could keep doing this thing,

776
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: keep keep it going. But I was just feeling really,

777
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: really tired. And it's almost like sometimes when you're good

778
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: at something, the success can obviously have its downsides. And

779
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: the downsides like I miss my family. They're getting older

780
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: and I'm just gone. And time goes by so fast

781
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: when you're touring because your schedules laid out for you

782
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: for like, you know, a year to two years, and

783
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: I missed just doing normal stuff. I missed the changing

784
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: of seasons, I miss birds. And I'm not complaining because

785
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: I realized, like you know, I'm blessed at the end

786
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: of the day, and I'm grateful with the end of

787
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: the day, of course, but I did also realize, like,

788
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: you know, you can also steer the train, you know

789
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: what I mean. It doesn't have to be something that

790
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: gets away from you. And it's not something I regret either.

791
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: I think it was like a lifesaver. Honestly, you know.

792
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: I was able to take time and just like take

793
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: care of myself and also my life had changed so

794
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: much and I needed to reconnect to me, you know.

795
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: Talking about getting things getting getting away from you. Just

796
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: put out the second single, It's American Dream. Just listen

797
00:38:46,320 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: to quick, a little bit of this real quick spitch smitch,

798
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: listen to a lot and now it's I'm realizing. It

799
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: reminds me of like almost like if there's hell blow,

800
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: it's all gonna go where it's like fucking a hard bassline.

801
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah it's right, I guess, but it's still soulful oh yeah,

802
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and saying something at the same time.

803
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like Curtis but it's also like

804
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: sludge rock.

805
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Curtis meets Swans Hell Yeah. Yeah like that.

806
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: Zach is another thing Zach sent to me, and this

807
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: was we had we hit the basement. He actually sent

808
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: that to me years ago. That's something we did years ago,

809
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: and all those problems I'm talking about, they're still here,

810
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: except like now worse. So like part of me was like,

811
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: should I go re record my voices to reflect more

812
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: current times? But I was like, man, let what that

813
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: was be what that was, don't try to adapt it,

814
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: just just let it be. And it was impossible not

815
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: to react to the world around me. When he sent

816
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: me that, it felt like this heavy baseline that was

817
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: like kind of tugging at my heart. It's almost that

818
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: feeling you feel like it's grief, but it's ongoing because

819
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: you just kind of look at the world and you're

820
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: just like, damn, I just don't know where to begin,

821
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: you know, and putting those feelings somewhere was kind of

822
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: cathartic at the time, and you know, that's what that

823
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: baseline brought out of me.

824
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 5: Wow.

825
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: And so what that was that's songs how old?

826
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: Oh, maybe like five years or something?

827
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: Five years Okay, Yeah, it was that some of your

828
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: guys were going to do maybe like testing the waters

829
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: back then to get back to something or well, me.

830
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 2: And Zach would kind of just toss ideas back and forth,

831
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: just for fun. There was no promise on what was

832
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: going to happen. It was just like, it's just we

833
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: just do that because that's what we do.

834
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, after the break, we'll be back with Brittany Howard.

835
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 1: This moment is brought to you by Sarah Nevada's Hazy

836
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: Little Thing. You go to beer for good times?

837
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: Does it?

838
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: Just since sound to a great backyard barbecue Before we

839
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: even see it, you hear the grill sizzling, the pool splashing,

840
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: and that one mistakable laugh at a playlist's pack with

841
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: your favorite songs, and you've got everything you need. Just

842
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: good food, good company, and a hazy little thing in

843
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: hand while the afternoon rolls on. That's what we're building today.

844
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: Welcome to Part one of the Sierra Nevada Sounds of

845
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: Summer series. This playlist is made for the backyard hang

846
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: where nobody's in a rush to leave. Check it. I'll

847
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: walk you through a few of the tracks I'll be

848
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: queuing up at my next barbecue. First of all, what's

849
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: a backyard hang without a nineties banger? I want to

850
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: kick things off with Jermaine Duprieze money and a Thing

851
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: featuring Jay Z. This ninety eight classic keeps the energy high,

852
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: and of course after bringing energy up, you want to

853
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: cool things down. It's hot anyways, So let's play some

854
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: Running for Your Love by the Brothers Johnson from Right

855
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: On Time, George Johnson, Lewis Thunder Thumbs Johnson, The Tower

856
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: of Power brass section, Harvey Mason Senior on drums, Quincy

857
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: Jones on production. This thing is incredible. And then, just

858
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: because I love the air guitar while I'm cooking, I'm

859
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: gonna play how Soon Is Now? By the Smiths. Thing

860
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: about a barbecue playlist is that it should keep the

861
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: energy easy, the afternoon moving, and the conversation going. And

862
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: of course don't forget to keep the cooler stocked. If

863
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: you ever reached for cheers when your favorite song comes on,

864
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867
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868
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: when come in here, get in here, you will stop

869
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: by security. I feel like you know, maybe I was like, hey,

870
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: might be because of this.

871
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it past the administration to start singling

872
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: people out, you know, who knows.

873
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: Do you think about that? Because it does feel like

874
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: as bad as things were ten years ago, five years ago,

875
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: it does feel particularly bleak or dire or particularly the

876
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: stakes are higher, scarier, Like do you think about that or.

877
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: A, yeah, all that's true. I think I think like

878
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 2: everybody feels that it's very uncertain times, but not many

879
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: people saying much, you know, and I feel the same way.

880
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: I feel like there's not a lot of leadership. You know,

881
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: we don't have Martin Luther King in this day and

882
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: age that's saying like this is what we're gonna do.

883
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: Meet me here, We're gonna march on this, which may

884
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: be a good idea, honestly, because there's all kinds of

885
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: people starting, all kinds of acts of resistance around this

886
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: country and around the world. Really, and maybe that's the

887
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,479
Speaker 2: way it needs to be in this day and age,

888
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: because nowadays they could just shut you down so fast,

889
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: you know, and target you and whatever. I think. I

890
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: think now it's gonna be about community, It's gonna be

891
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: about small things that happen everywhere all the time. Maybe

892
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: that's it. I don't actually have the answers. I don't

893
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: know myself, but like all I can do is a

894
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 2: small part. And you know, everybody has a gift, and

895
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: I feel like now more than ever, it's a time

896
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: to share your gift because like you got it for

897
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: a reason. You know, if your gift is speaking to

898
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: people to make them feel stronger, more whole, more powerful,

899
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: do that lean into that. People need that right now

900
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: because just like I said, I'm not sure who to

901
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: look to or what to look towards. And you know,

902
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 2: our gift is making this music and making people feel

903
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: together in that way. I just feel like this is

904
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: the time of the great togetherness, Like we got to

905
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: get out of this individual mindset and start leaning on

906
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: community because like, who knows what's going to happen.

907
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: I have no idea, and you feel like it's a

908
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: great get you. I feel it's like the great sellout.

909
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: Or we're watching that happen and we're saying, like, oh,

910
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: they don't care about us. It looks like we got

911
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: to care about us. It's like the true power to

912
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: the people moment. You know, we you know, unfortunately we

913
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: did need somebody like this administration to show us how

914
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: fucked up it is. It's very fucked up, and I

915
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: think the people who are vo for them. I'm starting

916
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: to hear more and more people being like, whoops, you know,

917
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know it's gonna be that bad. You know

918
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: all that we did.

919
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: I mean, being from Alabama, do you feel like you

920
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: know a lot? I mean just being from California, mind you,

921
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in my circle and

922
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: my family, you know, I mean, like, yeah, how is

923
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: that in your I don't want you know, the circle

924
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: of people. You know.

925
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie like some people are cut out

926
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: because it kind of got down to morality. I don't think,

927
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: you know, invisible borders should make it reasonable to capture children,

928
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: tear them away from their parents, and just take them

929
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: to wherever. I don't think there's any part of politics

930
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: that would make that justifiable. I think that crosses a

931
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: line of humanity. I just don't fuck with it. I

932
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: don't fuck with that reasoning. It's it's senseless, it's immoral,

933
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: it's inhuman, and anybody who's for that is just not

934
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: for me, you know, and not using their reasoning. There's

935
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: something in them that is fucked up and broken. That's

936
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: what I think. How can you allow that? You know,

937
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: especially in America. We call ourselves the greatest country in

938
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 2: the world, but look what we're doing. You know, people

939
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: scared to get sick.

940
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

941
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: I can't tell tell you how many people I know

942
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 2: that just won't go to the doctor, you know, because

943
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: it can't afford it. Like the greatest country in the world, though,

944
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I think it's perfectly healthy to

945
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: criticize what's going on and to be outraged and to

946
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: want things to change. I think that's absolutely reasonable because

947
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: you know, they talk about social contracts and how we're

948
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 2: supposed to act, but what about when they break the

949
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: social contract?

950
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: There's no repercussions there.

951
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're paying y'all. So anyways, that's how I feel

952
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: about all that.

953
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: That's like when it's like when you owe the bank

954
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: money versus when they owe you money. We need it

955
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: now versus I will get that to you in six

956
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: What I need.

957
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 6: That now to.

958
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: Go down there? Got it if you go down there

959
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: in jail exactly. It's like that.

960
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: But you know, rules for thee not for me. It's

961
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: the you know, what I mean. But that's great. I mean,

962
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm just thanks for thanks for thanks for saying something,

963
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: because it's you know, it does feel like a particularly

964
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: quiet moment, even though things are ratcheted up. It's like,

965
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: damn man, it's kind of crickets.

966
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: People are scared.

967
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this isn't something else. Let's play a song,

968
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 8: come on, play garden. Oh yeah, let's do that some

969
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 8: nice nice reset.

970
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, a little reset at something. Just way to

971
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: you up your hand, No, you're standing.

972
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 4: The left wing.

973
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 6: Is what if sa should be.

974
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: Don't get to persave.

975
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 9: She's love love you true, don't thinking winter, that should

976
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 9: be waiting for come spring.

977
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 5: If you don't lot God love.

978
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 4: If you don't show you love, oh shame me so

979
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 4: much more to me than to you.

980
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 5: All. Yeah, I love that.

981
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful song.

982
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: Thank you God.

983
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: How was it working with Sean Everett? Again?

984
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: It was great?

985
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

986
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been working Sean. I've been working with Sean

987
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: for like, I don't know, ten years or something. I

988
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: love Sean. I feel like, uh, you know, if I

989
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: had a left hand and a right hand and then

990
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: another right hand, that would be.

991
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Sean, give you the second right hand.

992
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, even the second right hand. That's my guy. Yeah,

993
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: he's awesome. I love working with him. He's he's just

994
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: the kind of guy that's like says yes to everything,

995
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: which is so wonderful when you're trying to create something.

996
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, how'd you first meet him?

997
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: Met Himon Sound and color Blake Mills had brought him

998
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: in to do the engineering and we just hit it off.

999
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: Like I just love his personality is so positive and

1000
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: it's so like supportive. He's like, yeah, just do that,

1001
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 2: Just do that. If it sucks, we'll delete it. Just

1002
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: do it, you know. And that's great to have him studio.

1003
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: That's a pretty reasonable approach. It's awesome, you know.

1004
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: I admire him and I always say this, but I

1005
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: admire him the most for not being someone who's had

1006
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: so much success, for just not being someone who's like

1007
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna work. I think this is

1008
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: gonna work. He's always listening to what somebody wants to

1009
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: do and he just tries to support it.

1010
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not looking to insert himself and direct you

1011
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: in a way that's.

1012
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 2: Not usually. I mean, if he has a good idea,

1013
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, yeah, let me hear that good idea,

1014
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 2: you know. But he's the same way with me. It's

1015
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: just like, oh, you have an idea, let's go in

1016
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: there and do it whatever it may be. You know,

1017
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: we've done some crazy we don some silly stuff in

1018
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: the studio to try to get cool sounds, like on

1019
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 2: Stay High. You know, I have the great Nate Smith

1020
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: playing drums. He gave Nate some chopsticks to play drums

1021
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: on because he thought it would improve the tone, which

1022
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: I think it did. What was Nate's Oh, I think

1023
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: he recorded his reaction. He was just like what he laughed,

1024
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: but he played, he played well, Yeah, chopsticks are not

1025
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: Nate is always in pocket.

1026
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: Of course, but that's pretty wild. Yeah, that is pretty wild.

1027
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1028
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: And Zach played some drums on the new album too.

1029
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually played for that song Garden. Did he Yeah, yeah,

1030
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: we just didn't have a drummer that day and I

1031
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: was like, Zach, just do it.

1032
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: And he did it.

1033
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did great.

1034
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: He's not a great on that. Yeah, I'll tell him

1035
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: please do Okay, when does the I don't even know

1036
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: when is the album out.

1037
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: Like August, like late August, I think is when we're

1038
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: going to do it.

1039
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: So it'll be like a full by the time it

1040
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: comes out. You have sat with it for for a while. Wow. Yeah,

1041
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: do you feel like you've already moved on? How do you? Yeah,

1042
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: like that feels like a long time said or something.

1043
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: It does for us. I mean it feels like a

1044
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 2: year really some of these songs. I'm definitely like excited

1045
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: to play these songs to the public. I'm excited to

1046
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: let the fans have the songs, do what you will

1047
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: with them, and I'm excited to like maybe maybe write

1048
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: some new songs.

1049
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, would you ever write some new songs and

1050
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: try them out on the.

1051
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: Road, Yeah, if we had, if something was cooking and

1052
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: we've come up with it, yeah, of course absolutely. Like

1053
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: that's how hold On was made in the first place.

1054
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: I didn't have lyrics. I just went up there and

1055
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: did it, you know, like I knew I wanted to

1056
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: say hold on, and I just inserted it into this

1057
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: music the guys were doing, and we just like did

1058
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: it live, like at a show one night and I

1059
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: was like, oh, there it is, and then we recorded that.

1060
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: Where were you, Uh it's a place called the Brick

1061
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: and Decater, Alabama.

1062
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, And we just got on stage and did it, and.

1063
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: I noticed people in the audience in front of me

1064
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 2: were singing it like they thought we were doing a cover.

1065
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, this must be it. I'll

1066
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: do this and that's how that's how it was. That

1067
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: was an inception of it.

1068
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: Wow. So you just told the guys that let's do

1069
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: that song even though I don't really I don't really

1070
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: got to handle it yet.

1071
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 2: I thought the pressure would make me come up with something,

1072
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: which it did.

1073
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1074
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sometimes like you don't need to overthink it. You

1075
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: just need to like be thrown into the fire. And

1076
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: in that case, that worked.

1077
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: That's really crazy, I mean, and that's you mean, that

1078
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: was like, that's a that's a that's a real hit.

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Speaker 2: Changed our lives. Yeah, JESU, sure, it's a gift.

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Speaker 1: That's why maybe should try that again too.

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Speaker 2: It's like I would be trying that all the time,

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Speaker 2: kind of I got about that.

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Speaker 1: Let's just go try something live. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: come up with some words right.

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Speaker 2: Here, risky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be real bad man. Well, thanks for

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Speaker 1: talking about the album. It's a beautiful thing for having me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and of course, something you want to hear from it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, what's something y'all want to.

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 2: Over there on the couch? Easy?

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Speaker 1: All right, easy, let's go. Who's on this one?

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Speaker 2: Noamond Bay Easy?

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Speaker 5: Stay?

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Speaker 2: Maybe easy, Corb, Maggy.

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Speaker 6: Stay.

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Speaker 5: I think it is so quick love make car.

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Speaker 6: I been.

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Speaker 4: All this time.

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Speaker 5: I spent look at me, I was speaking the killer

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Speaker 5: and moody.

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Speaker 6: So made.

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Speaker 1: I love that part into da in the the acoustic

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Speaker 1: so nice, man?

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Speaker 2: Is that about Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, she did knock out about her?

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Speaker 2: That's easy? Played the one about me?

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Speaker 1: Do you have to show that to her before you play?

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Speaker 1: Or did you was that written for? Did you play

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Speaker 1: it for?

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Speaker 5: Or did you know?

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Speaker 2: I like wrote it at the studio and I came

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Speaker 2: home and played it for her, and you know it

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Speaker 2: was a keeper for sure?

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, Yeah it worked. I don't know if that

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Speaker 1: was intended effect for Yeah, it worked. It worked amazing.

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Speaker 1: It was great to great to hang with you, with

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Speaker 1: you so much. Uh and uh yeah, see you out

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Speaker 1: on the road.

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Speaker 2: I guess I see you out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In the episode of description, you'll find a link

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Speaker 1: to a playlist of our favorite songs from Brittany Howard

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