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Speaker 1: What are we even do? What are we even doing?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Hi, you found my YouTube channel. What the heck? It's

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Speaker 1: Kyle McLachlin. Come on, subscribe, Smash the button, hit it,

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Speaker 1: punch it, let's go. Hey, hi everybody, I'm Kyle, your

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Speaker 1: host for What are we even doing? This is a

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Speaker 1: this is our podcast where we get We sit down

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Speaker 1: with creatives basically actors, musician, podcast host writers, anyone who's

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Speaker 1: doing cool stuff as is my next guest, and we

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Speaker 1: get weird together in a good way, just have really

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Speaker 1: nice conversation. So, without further ado, today we have a podcaster, comedian, author, actress,

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Speaker 1: let's say, hey, hopeful actress crusader for women, which I loved.

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Speaker 1: Drew off Wallow, It's so nice to have you here.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to my little podcast. I've been on your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me as a guest.

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Speaker 3: He God, thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 4: I really enjoyed that.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people were very shocked to see you

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Speaker 2: with me. They were like, wow, this is how I

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Speaker 2: know you've made it.

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Speaker 1: I certainly know having you here is make me feel

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Speaker 1: that way.

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Speaker 4: So that's the main thing.

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Speaker 3: Period love that for us.

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Speaker 4: It's so cool to have you here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much for having me. It's

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Speaker 3: excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: This is this is very cool. So you you tell

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Speaker 1: me about the journey, because I know a little bit

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Speaker 1: about your story starting out working with the NFL and

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Speaker 1: some of the other things. But when did you know

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Speaker 1: that this kind of genre was something that was appealing

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Speaker 1: to you, Like, I need to tell my story, I

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Speaker 1: need to be out speaking, I need to Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I fell into the content creation thing accidentally,

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Speaker 2: mostly because I'm gonna know it all and I think

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Speaker 2: I'm funny, so like I think that's more than enough

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Speaker 2: reason for.

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Speaker 4: Me to be posting content.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, anyone's.

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Speaker 3: Validation, but my own. I was like, I'm hilarious. I'm

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Speaker 2: But I think I fell into the like misogyny specific pipeline,

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Speaker 2: like accidentally because I made a few videos talking about

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Speaker 2: like my own misfortunes while dating, like funny stories, because

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Speaker 2: I love to tell story.

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Speaker 3: I love to yap you.

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Speaker 4: Know, yes, yes, I love about you the most.

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Speaker 3: I do love to chatter.

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Speaker 2: So I was just telling stories at first, and then

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Speaker 2: I made one video specifically that went viral, which was

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Speaker 2: like a prompt from someone like someone was like, what

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Speaker 2: are some very specific red flags and men right that

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Speaker 2: you have? And so I did like a whole list

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Speaker 2: on my notesap, just like silly shit. Yeah yeah, And

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Speaker 2: then I did that and that was my very first

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Speaker 1: And then from that you struck a nerve.

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Speaker 2: Yes, obviously I struck record with many people like people

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Speaker 2: who hate men, people who love them, like people who

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Speaker 4: And everyone had an opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I sprayed the crowd hit it few, you know,

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Speaker 3: Like people being like, oh my god, that's so true,

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Speaker 2: And then I got a whole bunch of hate too,

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Speaker 2: which I because I just turned thirty, so I've I've

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Speaker 2: So I had never received like that kind of amount

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Speaker 2: So I thought it was fun because I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: so that's one thing I'm really good at I would say,

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Speaker 2: so I just started like turning out videos responding to

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Speaker 2: me on this path. Hey, I have a guy I'd

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Speaker 2: this guy said this awful thing. You should say something

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Speaker 2: about him. Okay, so they just started kind.

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Speaker 1: Of bringing you or sharing with their experiences yet.

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Speaker 3: Taking me in videos.

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Speaker 2: That was kind of like the start of my snowball

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Speaker 1: That is an interesting way in I have always, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to engage. Yeah, I mean I really,

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Speaker 1: I just say, you know what I've just I've decided

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Speaker 4: But I understand why when you.

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Speaker 1: Get this backlash as you did, that it would spark

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Speaker 1: something in you, right, And I'm wondering that reaction comes from.

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Speaker 2: I think what it comes from more so for me,

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Speaker 2: when I'm disrespected, I'm I'm, I am.

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Speaker 3: I bristle and react immediately. That's how I've always been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've always been like my older sister, her

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Speaker 2: and I are two years of part in age, but

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Speaker 2: the complete opposite of me in many ways. So she's

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Speaker 2: very reserved, very quiet, like very sweet, trusting like things

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Speaker 3: I'm we're like opposites of each other in that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so my sister was bullied a lot growing up,

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Speaker 2: so like when I started going to school with my sister,

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Speaker 2: I just really don't like bullies, Like that's my main thing.

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Speaker 3: I really don't like people picking on the vult advantage.

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Speaker 2: Right, so that's how I grew up. I grew up

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Speaker 2: protecting people like that. I think protective nature is something

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Speaker 2: that's very like obvious about me. I think now now

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Speaker 1: So that in your family was like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. I mean, my dad is.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because physically speaking, my mom and dad are

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Speaker 2: My dad's just like my sister gentle patient.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait your dad, but your dad played for the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's ironic, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Because I do think of this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're kind of going all over

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Speaker 4: The the players.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, and I love football. I watched football

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Speaker 1: and I and I really I love. I love linebackers

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Speaker 1: I don't know what position your.

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Speaker 3: Father plays, he's a lineman, he's left guard.

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Speaker 1: so you have to protect. But I always thinking these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, giants, very alignement, especially esctually o Linemen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but they access something that is primal, you

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Speaker 1: seems like and then and then they're out of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that was my dad's thing for the NFL,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, I think it was like my dad

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Speaker 2: lot of people don't look at an opportunity like that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also had two children already, so you already

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Speaker 2: like it was opportunistic more than anything, which I still

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Speaker 1: In choice to make it twenty eight years right, Well,

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Speaker 1: i think I'm gonna go play football, yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: Like my parents had us very young, so my mom

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Speaker 2: And my mom was also like very opposed to getting

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Speaker 3: Like women are held in very high regard in my culture.

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Speaker 2: And have been even still are even after having been colonized,

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Speaker 2: Like it's still a very matriarchal culture. So like we

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Speaker 2: like there I am not the only someone woman with

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Speaker 3: On her like at all, right exactly.

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Speaker 2: I come from a lineage of women like that, like

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Speaker 2: that's all of it kind of makes sense. I think

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Speaker 2: I fell into this specifically. But I think more than anything,

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Speaker 2: I just really don't like beliefs and so like when

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Speaker 2: because it's it feels like open game at that point

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Speaker 2: to start throwing insults.

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Speaker 3: Left, I got.

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Speaker 1: A ton of them, fair game.

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Speaker 2: That's how I feel, right, And you know too, like

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Speaker 2: I feel like, if you're going to be able to

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Speaker 2: like you have to. I think truly funny people can

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Speaker 1: I wonder in someone culture because I spent some time

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Speaker 1: transport guys from Maori. Okay, different culture altogether and very

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Speaker 1: very curious about that culture. And it's interesting you bring

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Speaker 2: But also, like I like to I think that people

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Speaker 2: Like I have been hit with insults that were pretty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got to give it up because I

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Speaker 1: were shooting Dune and they were coincided with the filming

443
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Speaker 1: of Conan, so they were doing the second Conan.

444
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Speaker 4: Down there at the same time.

445
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Speaker 1: Arnold with Arnold's Arnold and Arnold you know, I mean,

446
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Speaker 1: I was going to the gym a lot, and Arnold

447
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Speaker 1: was like, you know Arnold, right, yeah, and it's such

448
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Speaker 1: a nice guy. I gotta say in your medium. And

449
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Speaker 1: he was down training in Mexico City at one of

450
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Speaker 1: the hotels that time.

451
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Speaker 3: He probably looked insane.

452
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Speaker 1: It was insane, yeah, and I unders imagine, but I

453
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Speaker 1: understood because it's like he had a whole facility set up.

454
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Speaker 1: It was all during the Nautilus's craze and the nautilst machines. Yes,

455
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Speaker 1: so they had always set up in this in this

456
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Speaker 1: giant conference room, and he was training with his training

457
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Speaker 1: partner Sven. Now then Fenn was like twice the size

458
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Speaker 1: of Arnold, damn. And so they would go in and

459
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Speaker 1: he'd do like, you know, ten reps of ten squads

460
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Speaker 1: and then but had like the other four plates. Yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: he was crazy. And I realized that Arnold had Fenn.

462
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Speaker 1: I mean, they were friends as well, but he said,

463
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Speaker 1: because Fenn was stronger, Arnold had.

464
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Speaker 4: To you know, he had.

465
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Speaker 1: Right what it was. But the other but the other

466
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Speaker 1: thing that I loved about it was the fact that

467
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Speaker 1: I would watch them kind of because I was in

468
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Speaker 1: there kind of cay can I work out.

469
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Speaker 4: I'd be over like, you.

470
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Speaker 1: Know, doing my twenty pounds, you know, and and I

471
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Speaker 1: watched him and I said, there was no like you know,

472
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Speaker 1: oh god, I got and then now I'm doing ten sets.

473
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Speaker 1: It was him Arnold lift, no no loud, nothing, just

474
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Speaker 1: very quiet. That's kind of like meditative tatus.

475
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Speaker 3: Interesting.

476
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Speaker 1: And he'd walk around, he would do his set and

477
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Speaker 1: he kind of move and kind and I could see

478
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Speaker 1: him working through what next, but it came from the

479
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Speaker 1: previous set, and I never forgot. I just thought that

480
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Speaker 1: is such a So I've kind of I haven't adopted

481
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Speaker 1: that necessarily, but I try to, like go what my

482
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Speaker 1: body's saying, what's telling me.

483
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Speaker 2: There are so many men that would kill to have

484
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Speaker 2: had that seat that you had, like him and his

485
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Speaker 2: prime lifting, just that one like learning from it. Just

486
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Speaker 2: watch some men who just came in their pants.

487
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Speaker 1: Watching There you go and you know who you are,

488
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Speaker 1: you know, and you know who you are, and I

489
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Speaker 1: went off, I guess he was thinking about you.

490
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Speaker 3: Dad.

491
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Speaker 2: A lot of comments like that on our cutdown together

492
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Speaker 2: of our episode where they said the original polytrates.

493
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Speaker 3: Like I remember him from Dude.

494
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Speaker 1: Dude, God with my crazy hair, My god, oh my god.

495
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Speaker 1: This podcast Two Idiot Girls, Yes, I don't know this podcast.

496
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Speaker 1: Tell me what this is about hair that.

497
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Speaker 3: It's Like I said earlier, I do have a lot

498
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Speaker 3: of yap in me.

499
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Speaker 2: So I do have two podcasts I call like the

500
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Speaker 2: comment section I call my show. No, I have too

501
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 2: many things to say, you know me, I called the

502
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 2: comment section of my show because it's more guests driven.

503
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: And then Two Idiot Girls is my podcast with my

504
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 2: sister and we basically it. We like to describe it

505
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Speaker 2: as like sister cousin sleepover vibes, Like it's just a

506
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 2: completely different energy from the comment section because that's more

507
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 2: of like a hosting thing, whereas like, obviously I'm a

508
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: host of Twoit eight Girls too, but that's where we

509
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Speaker 2: get to like talk about like what books we're reading

510
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 2: and like what shows were loving, and tell silly funny

511
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Speaker 2: stories and like kind of just be like cousins sleepover vibes, right, you.

512
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Speaker 1: Go into the past and talk about stuff.

513
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, exactly, and so like we called it two

514
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Speaker 2: Idiot Girls. A lot of people are like, why did

515
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Speaker 2: you pick that name? And I was like, we've had

516
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: this inside joke forever. I don't remember where it came from,

517
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: like most of the jokes that we have, but we've

518
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 2: just been referenced as like the girls like forever, like

519
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Speaker 2: because we've just been together, doing everything together for our

520
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Speaker 2: entire lives. And so like we called ourselves too idiot girls.

521
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Speaker 1: Randomly, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How does

522
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: that go to?

523
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 4: That make you laugh? I'm like, yeah, I understand.

524
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Speaker 2: One time, my agent Alex, who's like one of our

525
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Speaker 2: best friends, she also told me, like one time I

526
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Speaker 2: was explaining a joke to her that my sister and

527
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: I were dying laughing at, and then she goes, your guys,

528
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Speaker 2: humor is like confusing. Sometimes I'm like, well, and I

529
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Speaker 2: think also me laughing at it makes other It's almost

530
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Speaker 2: like I'm pav loving people into laughing.

531
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Speaker 1: Too, right, laughing, yeah, laugh, I mean that.

532
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 3: Itself makes people giggle, and so it kind of works out.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

534
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just I love that we actually have

535
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Speaker 1: that in common.

536
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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is really fun.

537
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Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about it when I was

538
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Speaker 1: on on your pod, just your curiosity about getting into

539
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Speaker 1: the acting thing.

540
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Speaker 4: A little bit.

541
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Speaker 1: Yes, Do you are comfortable talking a little bit about that? Yeah, okay, okay,

542
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Speaker 1: because I was so intrigued about what your your process,

543
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Speaker 1: what you're thinking, how you might like to Well.

544
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Speaker 2: I have been doing actually lately, I've been doing a

545
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Speaker 2: lot of silver reads for cartoons.

546
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Speaker 4: Oh that's fun.

547
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty fun.

548
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Speaker 2: I think I'm trying, like I mostly am doing like

549
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Speaker 2: adult cartoons, which is fun. I'm trying to stay a

550
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Speaker 2: little bit away from kids ones. I just feel like,

551
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I just don't know if my voice

552
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Speaker 2: would lend towards the kids cartoon.

553
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Speaker 3: But I guess it depends.

554
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Speaker 2: Disney, if you ever see this, I'm I'm a liar,

555
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: so if you ask me, I'll do it.

556
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Speaker 1: But it just from my perspective, definitely, definitely or quickly.

557
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Speaker 2: Get Yeah, but I just did a read last night

558
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Speaker 2: for one that's like She's like a witch, which I

559
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Speaker 2: thought was kind of telling, but you know, it is

560
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Speaker 2: what it is.

561
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Speaker 4: Oh good.

562
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Speaker 1: Which there's a lot of different kinds of witches.

563
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Speaker 3: All the reads I get.

564
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Speaker 2: I joked about this with one of my other friends

565
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Speaker 2: too on the show, where like all the reads I

566
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Speaker 2: get it's like.

567
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Speaker 3: Huge bitch in the office.

568
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Speaker 2: Like that's like the byelines like for it are always like, oh,

569
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Speaker 2: she's she's a cut but also very nice.

570
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Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm playing a mean girl. But I

571
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Speaker 3: think I could do it.

572
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Speaker 1: I think you can do all of that easy. The

573
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Speaker 1: challenge will be doing something, you know, against that something.

574
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Speaker 2: I've been kind of slow pitch. I was like, give

575
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Speaker 2: us something mysterious. Yeah, but I'm so like not mysterious.

576
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: So maybe that's the problem. But I've been like slow

577
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: pitching this idea to Brittany and Caleb. I've been trying

578
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: to like explain to them. I was like, we should

579
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: do like The Hangover, but like the three of us

580
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Speaker 2: and then you could be our dad in it.

581
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Speaker 4: Yes, come in, I'm ready if.

582
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Speaker 3: Anyone wants to write that.

583
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Speaker 4: Let you know Caleb. Caleb is brilliant.

584
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Speaker 3: Yeah he is.

585
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Speaker 1: They're both They're fast, they are it is, yeah.

586
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Speaker 3: It is.

587
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Speaker 1: Well we have other skills, yes, they can have that.

588
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we have other things.

589
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, you and I fat asses. That's what we got.

590
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm gonna say I'm going to show you later.

591
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Speaker 4: I'm going to stand up.

592
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: They wish they had, I wish have that.

593
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: So we got the booty. So you are on New

594
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Speaker 1: York Times bestseller.

595
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Speaker 4: Was amazing. That is awesome.

596
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Speaker 1: That is awesome. What's the thinking is there? Do you

597
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: have something else here? Is there a follow up?

598
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Speaker 3: What's the line with that?

599
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Speaker 2: Well, I am writing another book, so that's exciting, but

600
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Speaker 2: it's actually not a follow up to loud, namely because I,

601
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Speaker 2: like I said earlier, I just turned thirty, so like,

602
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Speaker 2: I don't think I have any more advice.

603
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: I think I'm tapped. Honestly, I got to live a

604
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Speaker 3: little bit more life.

605
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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, yeah, I'm just saying the older. I mean,

606
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Speaker 1: I'm sixty six, Jesus, and you, like, you know, you

607
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Speaker 1: do learn some stuff.

608
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Speaker 4: The question is it is it? Is it relevant? That's

609
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 4: the that's the question point to make sure.

610
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

611
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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm thinking like maybe no more memoir stuff,

612
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Speaker 2: but I am writing another book.

613
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Speaker 3: But I'm actually writing fiction now, which is very exciting.

614
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: So what's the what's the I'm doing?

615
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Speaker 2: Like if you can share, yeah, what I can share

616
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Speaker 2: is Bill, I'm doing like a fantasy romance, like kind

617
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Speaker 2: of vibe Dune speaking of Dune.

618
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Speaker 3: Yes, kind of like that, but not obviously.

619
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Speaker 1: So I fin's fantasy more I would say, yeah, romanticy.

620
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's more like I would say, and that

621
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Speaker 2: kind of one of my other friends too on the

622
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: show where like all the reads I get it's like

623
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Speaker 2: huge bitch in the office. Like that's like the byelines

624
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: like for it are always like, oh, she's she's a

625
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: cut but also very nice.

626
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Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm playing a mean girl. But I

627
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Speaker 3: think I could do it.

628
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Speaker 1: I think you can do all of that easy. The

629
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Speaker 1: challenge will be doing something, you know, against that something.

630
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Speaker 2: I've been kind of slow pitching. I was like, give

631
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: us something mysterious. Yeah, but I'm so like not mysterious.

632
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: So maybe that's the problem. But I've been like slow

633
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: pitching this idea to Brittany and Caleb. I've been trying

634
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: to like explain to them. I was like, we should

635
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 2: do like the Hangover but like the three of us

636
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: and then you could be our.

637
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Speaker 3: Dad in it.

638
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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm ready.

639
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 3: If anyone wants to write that, let me know.

640
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Speaker 4: Is brilliant.

641
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is.

642
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Speaker 1: Him. They're both they're fast, they are it is yeah.

643
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Speaker 3: It is.

644
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Speaker 1: Well we have other skills, yes, I know they can

645
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: have that.

646
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have other things we do.

647
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you and I fat asses. That's what we got.

648
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: Bad Listen, take up. I'm gonna say I'm going to

649
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: show you later. I'm going to stand up.

650
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: They wish they had, I wish have that.

651
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: So you got the booty.

652
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: So you are on New York Times bestseller Loud.

653
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Speaker 4: It's amazing. That is awesome.

654
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: That is awesome. What's the thinking is there? Do you

655
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: have something else here? Is there a follow up?

656
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 4: What's the mine with that?

657
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: Well?

658
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: I am writing another book, so that's exciting. But it's

659
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: actually not a follow up to Loud, namely because I,

660
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: like I said earlier, I just turned thirty. So like,

661
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 2: I don't think I have any more advice. I think

662
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm tapped. Honestly, I got to live a little bit

663
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: more life.

664
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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, yeah, I'm just saying the older. I mean,

665
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm sixty six Jesus, and you're like, you know, you

666
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: do learn some stuff.

667
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 4: The question is it is it? Is it relevant? That's

668
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: the that's the question.

669
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: Good point, you know, I don't want to make sure.

670
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

671
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking like maybe no more memoir our stuff,

672
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: but I am writing another book.

673
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: But I'm actually writing fiction now, which is very exciting.

674
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: So what's the what's the I'm doing, like, if you can.

675
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: Share, Yeah, what I can share is I'm doing like

676
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: a fantasy romance like kind of vibe Dune speaking of Dune,

677
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: kind of like that.

678
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: But not obviously so far.

679
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: Fantasy more I would.

680
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: Say, yeah, romance to see Yeah, so it's more like

681
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: I would say in that kind of un So I'm

682
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: working on that now, which is very exciting. And I

683
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: just recently like really kicked up. So I got a

684
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: lot of work ahead of me the next few years. Okay, okay, yeah,

685
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: so I'm very excited though.

686
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be fun.

687
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: Do you set you said, Okay, I'm going to do this.

688
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: We've set a goal, we've set a date, we said

689
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: a time.

690
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: Yes, actually, yeah, so I got I got my work

691
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: cut out for me the next few years. I think

692
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: this is like my honestly one of my biggest projects

693
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: probably the next like five years of my life. So

694
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: there we go, get into work and I'm rolling out

695
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: a larger plan that I like to call my lin

696
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: Manuel Miranda plan. So as I roll it out, once

697
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: film rights come, I'm like, you know what, you can

698
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: have it, but I will.

699
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: Be principal casting.

700
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: Of course, I.

701
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: Got to cast myself. He's a genius.

702
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he mentor great.

703
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a genius.

704
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: So he's like, you can have it, but I'm the star.

705
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: That's okay.

706
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: So that's kind of my plan.

707
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: Right, that's very good. That's very good.

708
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing something sort of similar.

709
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: Right now for the podcast.

710
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: Well, I'm working on a memoir and I understand dates and.

711
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: Like, bang, oh, there's so much good stuff in there.

712
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff that's a cree looking back,

713
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: and you go, God, I've been around for a while,

714
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: I've done a few things. I got a few things

715
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: I can talk about.

716
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: Oh god, you're so successful and handsome for years.

717
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: Got me too. So I'm excited about that. But also

718
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: just a podcast that I did, and we're we're working

719
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: on generating that and turning that into into something that's

720
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: actually that we will have very cool to be able

721
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: to present like a in a sense, So it'll be love, yeah,

722
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: not animated, but it'll be real. So we'll see yeah,

723
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: and definitely want to be a part of that too.

724
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: So same idea, attach yourself to something that you've already created.

725
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely where you go.

726
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: I figured that's what I gotta do, you know what

727
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I got to go in a back door.

728
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: So I guess I'll just have to make it.

729
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: And honestly, with the amount of romancey books I've read,

730
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: I read so many in the last couple of years, like,

731
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: not nearly enough of them look like me.

732
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna make.

733
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 4: Them look good for you.

734
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I was like, well, if I want to

735
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: see it, I got to make it, I guess.

736
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. So and you lean into

737
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: sort of the medieval.

738
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's existing somewhere in between that kind of realm.

739
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: It's like there's a lot of magic to it.

740
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: But it's also like I'm drawing a lot of inspiration

741
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: from like Polynesian like mythological I was.

742
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: Going to ask you, yeah, are you gonna are you

743
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: going back a little heritage maybe a little bit?

744
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: Everybody looks like me, me and my family, which I

745
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: was like.

746
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know white people in my story. Sorry,

747
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: are there any romanticy books out there? That you like now,

748
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: like do you? Oh? Yeah?

749
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: I read so many romanticy books. I think The Hunger

750
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: Games has one of the best love triangles ever written

751
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: because it carries all the way to the end of

752
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: the story and then when she picks her like, yes,

753
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: that was the right choice. Yeah, me only liking when

754
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: she picks the one I want.

755
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you have to in that situation.

756
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: I think you have to create walls.

757
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: You have to put up like things that are so

758
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: difficult to get through to get past it are almost

759
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: almost insurmountable. No way this can possibly happen, and you

760
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: have to believe in whatever that is.

761
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna nail it, honestly.

762
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm very excited.

763
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 4: You're gonna do it. You're gonna do it.

764
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: I have a note here about you're one of the

765
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: queens of the roast.

766
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: But did the and the smash team you did give

767
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 4: them an opportunity to roast me? YEA two?

768
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: How was that experience where you did you prefer? Do

769
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: you prefer the roasting or a roaster or roast?

770
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: T e.

771
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm good better at roasting. I

772
00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: think being a roast.

773
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

774
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: I haven't really been hit like hard enough, I don't

775
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: think right, even like during the Smash I do love

776
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: the Smash team. They're very fun and like that was

777
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: a really fun like gag that they all did with me.

778
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: There was only a couple that were, honestly like really,

779
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, relaxed.

780
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there was only.

781
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: A couple, which I loved.

782
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: But honestly, they roasted someone else that was there way

783
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: harder than they roasted me, which I thought was funny

784
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: because I think it's a fear thing.

785
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: I think a healthy dose of fear really works.

786
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: Yes, but I think it's more fun to for me

787
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: to roast others because I like to make people laugh

788
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: and I like to entertain people.

789
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: But getting roasted, I love it. I mean, if they

790
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: can do it, do it.

791
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: There's a thing, right. It seems to me like there's

792
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: there's a there's like a roast meter, right.

793
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

794
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: And at a certain point, you know, some people, some

795
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: people don't get it. They go into the red and

796
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: you're like, no, no, no, it's not about going to

797
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: the red. You gotta just be just below it.

798
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

799
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, pressing, pushing, Yeah, how many barbs are on the sphere.

800
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's like one barb's like okay, I got that,

801
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: or but if there's a couple of barbs, that's.

802
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: When you pull it out. It's gonna be this is

803
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: really good, right.

804
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: I think that's why drag queens gravitate towards me.

805
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: Because I can take a fucking joke like drag queens

806
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: are mean as fuck, lucky, the funniest, like sweetest, meanest

807
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: people alive. So I think that's why drag queens really

808
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: vibe went well with me because I'm a bitch and

809
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: so are they.

810
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: So I think it works out.

811
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: And honestly, those are the only people that I'm friends

812
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: with that I really felt like have gotten me good

813
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: in a way that made me laugh really hard. But

814
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: like if I was a more like I thought it

815
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: was a little bit softer, that would have hurt my feelings. Yeah, much,

816
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: it might hurt my feelings.

817
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because I think in that case that

818
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: because they're there, they are characters. Yes, that they are there,

819
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: are a persona absolutely that I think you can relate to.

820
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: As an actor.

821
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: You step into a persona and you can become pretty mean. Period.

822
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: They get out of that persona, Yeah, I do the

823
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: same thing, gentle.

824
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: And yeah, when I'm on TikTok, I do the same thing.

825
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: I step into a different step, into a kind of

826
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: version of myself. But I think that's why people are

827
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: shocked when they meet me in person, because I think

828
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: sometimes they assume I'm going to be like ah, right

829
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: like when they meet me, but I'm a lot more chill,

830
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: I think when you meet me in person. I think

831
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 2: that's because they see that part of me on TikTok,

832
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: But like that's obviously.

833
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: Not my entire personality. It's just a facet of it.

834
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, like all roads lead

835
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: back to the same center point, which is that patriarchy,

836
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: white supremacy, all of it.

837
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: It goes hand in hand.

838
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: But it's also like centering male validation is like the

839
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: bane of every woman's existence, and anyone outside of the female.

840
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: Identity to bother me. It doesn't bother me. So like

841
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: I've let it go.

842
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: And so I think that's why my platform happened the

843
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: way it did at the time in my life it did,

844
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: because that's the gift I want to give everybody else.

845
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: Do you think the transition, because I feel what I

846
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: hear you're saying, is like, there's like that you became

847
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 1: a time when you said you didn't you didn't take

848
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: the bait, or you didn't you didn't allow yourself to

849
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: be activated in some way. You were activating, yes, but

850
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: you weren't like you're like, no, no is it was

851
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: there a turning point, there was anything, or I think.

852
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the turning point was honestly, like around

853
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: twenty one twenty two, around that age.

854
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: I think it's because I had a lot of.

855
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: Really who are still my really good friends in college,

856
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: like women. I had never been surrounded by so many

857
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: women who were so sexually free and confident, and also

858
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: you know, going through the same chapters of life I was,

859
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: which is like learning how to decenter men, learning how

860
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: to not care as much about what they think about us,

861
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: or what they say about us or whatever, whether or

862
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: not they're attracted to us, whether or not they want

863
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: to date us, marry us, all those things. I think

864
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: going through those stages of life at the same time

865
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: with the amount of women I did that I love

866
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: dearly and still do to this day, I think, and

867
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: having my own unfortunate experiences with men in that regard

868
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: is kind of just all of it combined together is

869
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: what helped me turn that leaf because I had a

870
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: really negative experience in dating my senior year of college

871
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: that altered my brain chemistry in a lot of ways,

872
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: but in a way that I because the long and

873
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 2: the short of it, I've told the story many times,

874
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: but the long and the short of it is, I

875
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: was like the other woman. I didn't know that, and

876
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: he lied about many things. The girlfriend was just the

877
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: tip of the ice perk. There was a lot of

878
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: other things he lied to me about that I did

879
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: not know. But I realized, like as I was sitting

880
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: and processing that awful traumatic experience, I realized through that

881
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: that like a lot of that was on me because

882
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: a lot of it. I'm not stupid. I saw everything.

883
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: I just chose to close my eyes, and that's on me, right.

884
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: So I think that kind of realization really unlocked something

885
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: for me, like it gave me freedom because I realized then, like,

886
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't have to subject myself to anything if I

887
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 2: don't want to, Which is why women are so smart

888
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: and women are so intuitive, and women are so powerful.

889
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: So women do know when they're being mistreated. Women do

890
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: know when they're being.

891
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: Disrespected, they just choose to act on certain things and not,

892
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: and that's permission they need to give themselves. So I

893
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: gave myself permission to not put up with this bullshit

894
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: if I didn't want to anymore. Even as strong willed

895
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 2: and confident and independent as I was at the time,

896
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: that still happened to me. And it was because I

897
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: chose to let it happen to me. To some extent,

898
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: I can't control whether or not he lies to me,

899
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: but I can't control if I eat the lie, because

900
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: a lot of the lies.

901
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: Were fucking obvious.

902
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, first one being he had no social media whatsoever.

903
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 3: Who are you, Jason Bourn? Who are you hiding from?

904
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: You're my age?

905
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: Also, he lied to me about his age the first

906
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: time he met me, which that was as I said,

907
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: you said you were twenty five? He said no, I

908
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: didn't because he's thirty one and I was twenty one.

909
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: And I said you said twenty five, and he goes,

910
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: you probably just thought I said that because you were drunk,

911
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: oh right, immediately, gaslighting me immediately, And am I stupid? No?

912
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: I knew that, yeah, but I was like, well, I

913
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: probably did mishear it.

914
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: That's me lying to myself because I'm smarter than him,

915
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: and I'm smarter than how I was acting. And I

916
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: think that experience, honestly is where I let go of

917
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: Once I get a man, everything's gonna be fixed. Once

918
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: I get a man, I'm gonna be happy. Once I

919
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: get a man. I'm gonna like once I have someone

920
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: at home with me, like everything's gonna work out for me.

921
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: That is where I truly let that go, because I could,

922
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: you could say it all at that of life at

923
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 2: the same time, with the amount of women I did

924
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: that I love dearly and still do to this day,

925
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 2: I think, and having my own unfortunate experiences with men

926
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: in that regard is kind of just all of it

927
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 2: combined together is what helped me turn that leaf.

928
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: Because I had a really.

929
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: Negative experience in dating my senior year of college that

930
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: altered my brain chemistry in a lot of ways, but

931
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: in a way that I because the long and the

932
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: short of it, I've told the story many times, but

933
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: the long and the short of it is I was

934
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: like the other woman. I didn't know that and he

935
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 2: lied about many things. The girlfriend was just the tip

936
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: of the ice perk. There was a lot of other

937
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: things he lied to me about that I did not know,

938
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: but I realized, like as I was sitting and processing

939
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: that awful traumatic experience, I realized through that that like

940
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 2: a lot of that was on me, because a lot

941
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: of it. I'm not stupid. I saw everything. I just

942
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: chose to close my eyes, and that's on me, right.

943
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: So I think that kind of realization really unlocked something

944
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 2: for me, like it gave me freedom because I realized then,

945
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 2: like I don't have to subject myself to anything if

946
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to, which is why women are so smart,

947
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: and women are so intuitive, and women are so powerful.

948
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: So women do know when they're being mistreated. Women do

949
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: know when they're being disrespected. They just choose to act

950
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: on certain things and not, and that's permission they need

951
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: to give themselves. So I gave myself permission to not

952
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: put up with this bullshit if I didn't want to anymore.

953
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: Even as strong willed and confident and independent as I

954
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: was at the time, that still happened to me. And

955
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: it was because I chose to let it happen to me.

956
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: To some extent, I can't control whether or not he

957
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: lies to me, but I can't control if I eat

958
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: the lie because a lot of the lies.

959
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: Were fucking obvious.

960
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, first one being he had no social media whatsoever.

961
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: Who are you, Jason Bourn? Who are you hiding from?

962
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: You're my age?

963
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: Also hed to me about his age the first time

964
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: he met me, which that was as I said, you

965
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: said you were twenty five. He said, no, I didn't

966
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: because he's thirty one and I was twenty one. And

967
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: I said, you said twenty five, and he goes, you

968
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: probably just thought I said that because you were drunk.

969
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: Oh, lighting right immediately, gaslighting me immediately? And am I stupid?

970
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: No?

971
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: I knew that, but I was like, well, I probably

972
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: did mishear it.

973
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: That's me lying to myself because I'm smarter than him,

974
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: and I'm smarter than how I was acting. And I

975
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: think that experience, honestly, is where I let go of.

976
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: Once I get a man, everything's gonna be fixed. Once

977
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: I get a man. I'm gonna be happy once I

978
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: get a man. I'm gonna like, once I have someone

979
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: at home with me, like, everything's gonna.

980
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: Work out for me.

981
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: That is where I truly let that go, because I

982
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: could you could say it all day long, but if

983
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: you don't believe it and like actually feel it, I

984
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: don't think you're gonna find your person first of all.

985
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 2: But I also don't think you're ever gonna get anything

986
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: you want out of life, because at the end of it,

987
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: it always comes down to does a man like this

988
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: does a man like me?

989
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: Does he appreciate me?

990
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: As I am, like constantly thinking about what they want

991
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 2: and what they need and what they're looking for. Where

992
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: is there any space for me if I'm always thinking

993
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: about them?

994
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: Where's me? And I love me? Do you have a

995
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: guess of his moon?

996
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: Give a sense?

997
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: Don't jump me? Astrology girls, like this is a very.

998
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: Crude explanation, but like moon is like your emotions, like

999
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: how your emotions are ruled. It's like the planet that

1000
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: rules your emotions, I think. And then you're rising is

1001
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: like what you project or portray to others.

1002
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: I think of Leo rising too, which is weird.

1003
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 3: Oh you're Leo rising, You're rising? I Leo moon interesting.

1004
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: Thank God for that, Pisces.

1005
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 4: But I said, I'm not letting that out.

1006
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 3: That's the Leo.

1007
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm not letting that out, and no one's going to

1008
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: see that. And then and then, but then I choose

1009
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: acting as I'm like, I guess I am going to.

1010
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: Let the leo because that Leo's love attention too.

1011
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I secretly do love attention, but I like,

1012
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: I like to pretend like I don't. That's like no, no, no, no,

1013
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: you know what's funny.

1014
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 3: I have like a theory I've said before.

1015
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: I was like, on one hand, I can count people

1016
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: who genuinely hate attention, and it's my dad's one of them,

1017
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: My man and my godfather. Those are the only men

1018
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: I know, like are people in general? Everyone else I

1019
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: know they love attention to some extent. You and I

1020
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: have to love attention to do this for a living.

1021
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: But totally Yeah, so it's natural for us, which I accept.

1022
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's why I said the Leo thing makes

1023
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: sense I think for you. But that's why I said,

1024
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: thank God for that piece is a bounced too. Yeah,

1025
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: you dodgeable at their God. Yeah, I was a I'm

1026
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: a Virgo sun cancer moon Sagittarius rising.

1027
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: Okay, sage is like my fire.

1028
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: So that's another reason why I think a lot of

1029
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, she's probably like a crazy because

1030
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm uh sag rising.

1031
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: So that's what people see first my fire.

1032
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: Your cancer is your sensitivity cancer.

1033
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why I'm so protective. My astrologer told

1034
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: me that once. And the virgo is why I'm so mean,

1035
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 2: because I'm very detail oriented and remember everything.

1036
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: I think I should have Virgo in there as well.

1037
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: Those they do say that I'm the opposite side of

1038
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: the thing because I am definitely OCD.

1039
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. Really the virgo. Yeah, it's very but it's meticulous.

1040
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: It's about esthetic. No, it's aesthetic. It's like I like,

1041
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: which I think maybe that's the piece thing. So I like,

1042
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: I like a lot of detail, but it has to

1043
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: be the aesthetic has to be just right or I'm thrown.

1044
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1045
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: Right, I'm very Type A. That's my virgo too, Okay,

1046
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: I'm very Type A, so I like. That's why I

1047
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: love when my because my agent and my assistance and

1048
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: carry they're both very Type A.

1049
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: So when they're here, I can be a Type B.

1050
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: I can be like, I can be whatever I want

1051
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 2: because they're here and they're in control of the ship.

1052
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: Otherwise I have to be steering. I've got what you're

1053
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: talking about. Type A. Type A women on the team,

1054
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: the need need.

1055
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: Them need My wife definitely agree. All right, so we're

1056
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna come back. We've got a cool game. Okay, it's

1057
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: just just just for you. I decided just for you.

1058
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: It's called deep Diving and it's an O to your.

1059
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: Podcast perfect with on staff.

1060
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: Yes, we're going to be diving deep into the world

1061
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: of our of our own comments. Okay, but we're gonna

1062
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna gamify it. So we're each going to read

1063
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: a comment from our socials and the other one we'll

1064
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: have to guess who it came from my new yours.

1065
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: But okay, we're back. So as I said before, we're

1066
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: going to do this section called.

1067
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 4: Just you deep dive in.

1068
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: Well, we're wearing snorkels, masks and snorkels because we're doing

1069
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: some deep dive.

1070
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 3: In and we're holding giant cell phone.

1071
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 4: We have giant cell phones.

1072
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: This is what it looks like when people take pictures that,

1073
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: like with an iPad, like they're like holding it up

1074
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: in front of everyone.

1075
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 3: No, it's cool.

1076
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: I didn't want to want you are hilarious. Who are

1077
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: you behind that iPad?

1078
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: I don't know? These are truly giant.

1079
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna read comments from each of

1080
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: our socials for each other, and we're gonna guess which

1081
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: person it was directed towards. Let's dive in first one,

1082
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: mother mothering again as usual.

1083
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna assume mine.

1084
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 4: You are correct, mother mothering again as usual. Imagine humiliated

1085
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 4: mother mothering again. But you know, sometimes it's it's they

1086
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 4: you never know, you never know.

1087
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: They call me daddy on mine too. So yeah, interchangeable.

1088
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 4: You can't be anyone's guess.

1089
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: Okay, Mine says, twin, this is so peak.

1090
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: Well that's yes, that's gotta be mine.

1091
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: Yes, obviously starting starting.

1092
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: The mister TikTok, get them in my office, stat.

1093
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: Mister TikTok, get them in my office. Stat.

1094
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess yours. Oh was I wrong?

1095
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: You are incorrect? It was mine, mister TikTok.

1096
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: I don't, but you know what it's it gave the

1097
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: mister TikTok, get them in my office, stat. Mister again,

1098
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Speaker 1: it sort of it's anywhere gender so.

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Speaker 4: We don't know. We can't. Yeah, we can't go with that.

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Speaker 2: It's not non gender specific exactly right. Okay, Mine says,

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Speaker 2: this is my super Bowl event. Y'all don't get it

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Speaker 2: like I do.

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Speaker 4: It's got to be you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you, because I was thinking about I was thinking

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Speaker 1: I just want your dad, But I was just like

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Speaker 1: your dad right, Probably not incorrect, but the logic.

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Speaker 3: Probably not, but it was a good guess. Context led

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Speaker 3: to it was.

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Speaker 1: A fifty to fifty Yes, okay, your use of free

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Speaker 1: will reigns supreme once again. Yes, yes you are yours.

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Speaker 4: Your use of free will reign supreme once again.

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Speaker 2: No, I think you're Yeah, your free will is more obvious.

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Speaker 2: I think I think the same things all the time

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Speaker 2: on mine.

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Speaker 1: Ah, No, I agree in your turn.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, it says this video captures such an interesting moment.

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Speaker 2: The details really draw you in and make you think

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Speaker 2: about everything happening in the background. I like how it

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Speaker 2: brings attention to aspects we don't always notice right away.

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Speaker 1: Me. Yes, okay, I was like, only one of my

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Speaker 1: fans would write such a right concentrated aware exactly like

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Speaker 1: thinking through all right. This collab has spawned a genre

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Speaker 1: of video that I call videos that make me feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm actually just actively dying in hospice. I'll read

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Speaker 1: that one more time. This collab has spawned a genre

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Speaker 1: of video that I call videos that make me feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm actually just actively dying. Actually, I love actually

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Speaker 1: just actively dying in hospice