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Speaker 2: the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, December fifth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: because we got a special guest joining us this morning.

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Speaker 2: He's a senior columnist for The Athletic, having worked for

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Speaker 2: at least thirty years covering the NBA. He's also the

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Speaker 2: co author of the new NBA book, The Basketball one hundred,

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Speaker 2: available everywhere. That link is in the show notes. He's

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Speaker 2: one of our favorites to always have on the show.

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Speaker 2: It's Hall of Famer David Aldridge.

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Speaker 4: DA.

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Speaker 2: What's up, my guy?

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, what's happening? Good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on. Really excited to talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about this book. And I guess the first

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Speaker 2: question the Basketball one hundred. It is the definitive ranking

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Speaker 2: of the one hundred greatest NBA players of all time.

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Speaker 2: I want to know, like, what was the idea behind

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Speaker 2: this and the process of spinning this into a book.

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Speaker 2: Take us through that.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure you guys remember back in twenty one,

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Speaker 5: the NBA had the seventy fifth anniversary, right, so they

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Speaker 5: did their seventy five greatest players. They had everybody come

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Speaker 5: So we did the top seventy five in twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: one at the Athletic and it was, you know, we

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Speaker 5: five and then I don't know about like eighteen months ago,

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Speaker 5: our book people came to us and they had done

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Speaker 5: a Baseball one hundred with Joe pez Nanski that had

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Speaker 5: we would if we could expand the seventy five into

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Speaker 5: Rob Peterson was our point person, great editor that we

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Speaker 5: twenty five. We didn't take anybody out of the original

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Speaker 5: When we did our series, because I just thought it

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Speaker 5: Mean there were the two that jumped to mind were

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Speaker 6: I think a book like this can be so valuable

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Speaker 6: because of what you're mentioning. DA like Will has kind

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Speaker 6: of been reduced in today's basketball fandom to the numbers, right,

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Speaker 6: You mentioned adding twenty five new players. Here, is there

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Speaker 5: You know, it's funny, guys, I, John and I and

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Speaker 5: I think as you may think, like we had, Like

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Speaker 5: John felt very strongly. I don't think this is a secret.

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Speaker 1: Went okay, yeah, that makes sense. What you're saying makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But you know, when I made my case, they said, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Klay Thompson is not in the hundred. Was he close?

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Speaker 5: You know, and what it came down to is somebody's

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Speaker 5: I respect John a great deal for what he's done

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Speaker 1: We both respect Robin great deal.

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Speaker 2: So this book does go Magic at number five, Bill

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Speaker 2: heard you talking a lot about MJ is your goat, DA,

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Speaker 5: No, I've said this many times, guy. I mean, Lebron's

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Speaker 1: He's got a case. Like it's a legit case too.

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Speaker 5: But just his look, he was in was it nine

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Speaker 5: straight finals? You know, that's that's that's Russell territory, right, Like,

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Speaker 5: Hey bird Magic didn't weren't in nine straight finals. Michael

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Speaker 1: So he's got a case. Kareem's got a case.

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Speaker 1: Of one move.

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Speaker 5: You know, you have one shot, one thing that he

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Speaker 1: You know, So that he's got a case.

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Speaker 5: He's got six MVPs. Nobody else, including Michael Jordan, has

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Speaker 1: He's got a case, right, Bill Russell won eleven. He's

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I've heard you say before. If Michael Jordan were

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Speaker 2: the greatest serial killer in a Yeah, because he's psychotic.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic. Well, this book is awesome. I'm making my

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Speaker 2: So congrats on the book. DA, really appreciate you jumping

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Point is you read a chapter, you put the book down,

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, DA, thanks a lot, man. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: All right, David Aldridge the Basketball one hundred DA, John

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Speaker 4: and it kept going in the second court, and it

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00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 4: was just a shame to see the Bucks come out

441
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 4: of the timeout playing zone defense and Gary Trent Junior

442
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 4: not getting to his quadrant and he just having an

443
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,199
Speaker 4: open three point shot from Zachary resa Che who came

444
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 4: out of the Stars and joined the bench, and HD

445
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 4: wide open three. I mean after that bogged down Bogdanovic

446
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 4: was awesome in that second quarter. You have thirteen points

447
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 4: in that second quarter alone. The Hawks are deep and

448
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 4: they're playing deep, and the Bucks just kind of fell off,

449
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 4: and you could see, like when the starters came back

450
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 4: for the Hawks, they kept it up. Look, Jalen Johnson

451
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 4: was getting dunk after dunk after dunk because they were

452
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 4: just taking it harder to the rim, and the Bucks

453
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 4: were just a little flat footed because they had one

454
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 4: seven straight and I think they were just a little

455
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 4: a little slowut there. So Jalen Johnson was out there

456
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 4: throwing down dunks. His dad was in the crowd in Milwaukee.

457
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 4: He jumped up when he saw a dunk, and I

458
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 4: think his mom was there too, and his mom missed one.

459
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 4: So you could read Jalen Johnson's dad's lips saying you

460
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 4: missed that, you missed that. Oh yeah, great, great stuff.

461
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 4: So that it was very funny. But the fact is

462
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 4: the Bucks they were just outpaced. You saw you We'll

463
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 4: go through a lot of these games. A lot of

464
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 4: the benches made differences last night and this one. That's

465
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Speaker 4: what it was. And you know, I think the Bucks

466
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 4: just can't win eight games in a row.

467
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Speaker 3: That was part of it. That was part of it.

468
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Speaker 3: They just kind of laid a bit of an egg.

469
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Speaker 2: But the Hawk's here tray of again got the winning

470
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: streak to five. They beat the Calves in back to

471
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: back games, one of those A Cup games, then they

472
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: beat the Hornets on the road, then they took care

473
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Speaker 2: of the Pelicans, and then yeah, to go into Milwaukee,

474
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Speaker 2: who Yeah, maybe they took the foot off their gas

475
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: a little bit, but still a great team the way

476
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Speaker 2: they've been playing and get it done. I think what

477
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: was shocking to me is like the Hawks build a

478
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Speaker 2: twenty point lead and actually sort of maintained it. Like

479
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: we watch a lot of Hawks games, and look every

480
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: NBA game for that matter, a lot of teams build

481
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: leads and then they sort of give it all back.

482
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: The Hawks notoriously have done that over years, but this

483
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: was like pretty impressive. Yeah, Milwaukee made runs, but they

484
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 2: always had an answer. But let's jump out to you, Atlanta.

485
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Speaker 6: The two things that really stick out to me are

486
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Speaker 6: number one the bench. They've got one of the five

487
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Speaker 6: best benches in the league. I think they're third in

488
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Speaker 6: scoring right now, and it's either Hunter, a Coongo or

489
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Speaker 6: Bogdanovic that do it. Last night it was all three

490
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Speaker 6: of them. Twenty for Hunter, fifteen and five assists for

491
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Speaker 6: Bogie and then double o with thirteen and a couple

492
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Speaker 6: of offensive rebounds definished with six boards as well, And

493
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 6: Tess is exactly right. They were just running the Bucks

494
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Speaker 6: out of the gym. Bobby Porters was looking slow for Milwaukee.

495
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Speaker 6: That can happen at times, and it was just kind

496
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Speaker 6: of go back to the Bucks of the first couple

497
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 6: of weeks of the season where they weren't committed to

498
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Speaker 6: transition defense. So I thought that was a big time

499
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 6: advantage for Atlanta last night. Second thing to me is

500
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Speaker 6: that Trey Young is committed to sharing the ball this year.

501
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 6: Lowest usage percentage of his career, highest assist percentage of

502
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Speaker 6: his career, highest average assists per game of his career

503
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 6: twelve and a half assists right now, hasn't been done.

504
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 6: Haven't had a twelve assist per game season since John

505
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 6: Stockton in nineteen ninety five.

506
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 4: Wow.

507
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 6: Now, look Trey is not scoring the ball all that

508
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 6: well this season, twenty points per game, shooting thirty percent

509
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 6: from three, can't really finish inside floaters, not really there

510
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 6: right now either, But it's working for the Hawks. Him

511
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 6: actually distributing the ball. He mentioned that he probably would

512
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 6: lead the league in potential assists as well secondary assists.

513
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 6: The ball is actually moving with the Hawks, which hasn't

514
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 6: always been the case during Trey Young's Atlanta tenure. He's

515
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 6: bought in to what Quinn Snyder's preaching. Yep, the results

516
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 6: are there right now. They are on a winning streak

517
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 6: over the course of the season. There's still a bottom

518
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Speaker 6: ten offense. Somehow, they need Trey Young to shoot better

519
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 6: if they're actually going to do anything when it comes

520
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 6: to the postseason. But they look good right now. The

521
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 6: bench is making shots. That's huge, and Trey is doing

522
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 6: his part getting the ball to a Jalen Johnson, to

523
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 6: a Zach Reciochet who had a nice game as well.

524
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

525
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Speaker 2: If I had told you, I guess over the past

526
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: what three or four Hawks seasons, and I said, hey,

527
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: look over the last five games, Trey Young, he's only

528
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: scoring seventeen a game. He's shooting thirty eight percent from

529
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Speaker 2: the floor, twenty one percent from three. Yeah, he's got

530
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: a lot of assists, but he's actually got a lot

531
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Speaker 2: of turnovers too. What do you think the Hawk's record

532
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: is over that five deep stretch, Like, there's no way

533
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: you're going five and oho you go. I don't know,

534
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: maybe they eat out a win or two, like maybe

535
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: two and three, one and four probably, But yeah, this

536
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: is the wild part that he's sort of taking a

537
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: step back offensively in terms of scoring, and everybody else

538
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: is eaten and it is working or at least resulting

539
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: in victories. And a big part of that as a

540
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: bench and a little bit of defense. My god, it's

541
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Speaker 2: nice to see.

542
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Speaker 4: Yeah and him just strictly just passing more even if

543
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 4: they're not a he's taking fear of shots as well.

544
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 3: To add onto to trace comments about Trey that.

545
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: That comments about Trey.

546
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's leading. He's giving it to Jaen Johnson. Obviously.

547
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 4: Clint Compel has been really good at the center spot.

548
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 4: I got to eat my words. I thought this was

549
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 4: going to be easily be the year that they trade

550
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 4: him and move on to Kongwu, but he has been awesome.

551
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 4: Dyson Daniels has been stupid good a lot of the

552
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 4: time out there, obviously defensively and all that and finding

553
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 4: Resachet over and over. The fact is Quinn Slider's got

554
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 4: nine deep that he's going. Kobe Buffkin was really good

555
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 4: off the bench too, helping out. I know, he's only

556
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 4: one for five, he was a little short on one

557
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 4: little shot two for I count it's two for five

558
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 4: because they scored on that basket anyway, shifting to him basically,

559
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 4: but listen, the fact is he's just getting everybody else

560
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: involved and saying, I don't have to be a superstar.

561
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 4: He really is trying to get everybody involved in guys resache.

562
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 4: I know. So it'll fly under the radar how good

563
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 4: he is. But he's good from quarter to quarter to quarter,

564
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 4: like he doesn't have to do too much. He's hits

565
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 4: his threes, had a beautiful dunk scored underneath on a

566
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 4: pretty shot like. We can go on and on about

567
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: the depth of the Atlanta Hawks, which kind of surprising

568
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 4: to say that here, you know, six weeks into the season,

569
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 4: but they are good.

570
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hawks had a thirty to twelve advantage in fast

571
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: break points. They rebounded the Bucks significantly, as you said,

572
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: huge difference in points in the paint. It was like

573
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: really good stuff from Atlanta. Just don't get too excited.

574
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: We've done this before. We need to pump the brakes,

575
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: is all I'm saying, because you get burned when you

576
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: start getting convinced. Oh yeah, the Hawks are ready to

577
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: roll here. But this is good. This is a good

578
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: stretch here for the guys. Okay, let's talk about the

579
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: Lakers struggling. Obviously addressed a little bit with Da Tyler.

580
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: Hero scored thirty one, caught fire in the third quarter tray,

581
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: and the Heat crushed Lebron and the Lakers one thirty

582
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: four to ninety three. The Miami Heat putting up one

583
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: thirty four. That's how bad the defense is for Lakers.

584
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: But yeah, already want to start with the good of

585
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: the Heat or the bad of the Lakers?

586
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 6: Ah, great question. This is a big vibes game, like

587
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 6: the Heat of Ben struggling. Obviously the Lakers struggling as well.

588
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 6: Both teams needed the win. It really felt like. But

589
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 6: there's two L's in Los Angeles Lakers. Wait a second,

590
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 6: there is a lot more ls than two. But they

591
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 6: got another one last night. I heard on the broadcast,

592
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 6: Eric Reid goes, this Laker defense needs a reality check.

593
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: Eric Rudi was calling him out.

594
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 6: He was calling him out, and he was one hundred

595
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 6: percent right. This was a disgusting effort from your Los

596
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 6: Angeles Lakers. That's why everybody postgame said, this is embarrassing

597
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 6: that we're all embarrassed. They gave up twenty four threes

598
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 6: to the Miami Heat, who can have hot shooting nights

599
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 6: for sure. Also, twenty four fast break points. How many

600
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 6: of them were wide open, literally nobody else on the

601
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 6: other side of the court, with Jimmy Butler taking a

602
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 6: layup underneath out running everybody on the Lakers fifty two

603
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 6: points in the paint as well for Miami. There were

604
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 6: just so many wide open shots. It felt like Anthony

605
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 6: Davis was shrugging his shoulders or throwing his hands up

606
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 6: all night long. It looked like the Lakers, I don't know,

607
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 6: maybe they were trying a new defensive strategy or something.

608
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 6: JJ mentioned that they hadn't had a lot of practice

609
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 6: time and that they hadn't implemented the game plan, and

610
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 6: it looked like they didn't know what they were doing.

611
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 6: Because if there was two passes on a possession. It

612
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 6: was a wide open heat shot.

613
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Anthony Davis does have a lot on his shoulders

614
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: on this team, especially with this perimeter that they're playing

615
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: now with dangel O, Russell and Dalton Connect because Austin

616
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 4: Reeves is out and I know, we know, we don't

617
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: think Austin Reeves is a great defender, but at least

618
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: they know what they're doing out there. And as Anthony

619
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 4: Davis really has it like five guys coming at him

620
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 4: over and over and he he's not receiving a lot

621
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 4: of the criticism. It's all been about Lebron in the

622
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 4: last couple of games, but Ady is just flat as well.

623
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, both times and both.

624
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: These these these games where he's got run out of

625
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 4: the gym a couple of times. But again, the perimeter

626
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: defense isn't stopping anybody. So there is a lot on

627
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: his shoulders with the lineups that they have out there.

628
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: So JJ Reddick I think has to make it a

629
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: quick decision here to go back to Cam Reddish, I

630
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 4: think is a good possibility over Adult and Connect. As

631
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: much as they want that offense to work with Connect,

632
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: you really just need every perimeter player out there. Eric

633
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: Reid said, gave Vincent was good. Eric said, gave Vincent

634
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 4: was Heat culture.

635
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Big Biga had.

636
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 6: One nice playoff run as a Miami Heat got for

637
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 6: eleven last night.

638
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did not play well, but two good possessions

639
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: coming out of his first possession for his first run

640
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: off the bench.

641
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: And Eric just loves him more than I do.

642
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 4: Oh ga, a couple of good possessions there. Yeah, and

643
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: even the color analysts said, yeah, gay Vincent. I loved

644
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 4: him when he was here, so did I.

645
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: Then he got hurt. He's trying out there.

646
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: But he That's a trend with a lot of Miami

647
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: Heat players. Yeah, there are awesome of the dogs when

648
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: they're heap players and then they go somewhere else and struggle.

649
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: But he got hurt.

650
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: Anyways, Yeah, following this forty one point drubbing the Lakers,

651
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: I guess key players were taking some ownership. I want

652
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: to read some of the quotes you sort of touched

653
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: on it their TK Reddick said quote, we're all embarrassed.

654
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: It's not a game that I thought we had the

655
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: right fight, the right professionalism. Lebron says, It's not on

656
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: the coaches, it's definitely on us.

657
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: For sure.

658
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: AD said the schemes are on point, but we just

659
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: got to go out and do it and execute them.

660
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: But I just got to step up for the team.

661
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the trifecta there of postgame quotes. When

662
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: you're really struggling or embarrassed, it's not on the coaches,

663
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: it's on us. I got to play better. Wow, check

664
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Speaker 2: check check. But man, at this point, I think really

665
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: with this team because the defense is so bad, it's

666
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: affecting AD. What I see, having played basketball for a

667
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: long time and watched a bunch of NBA basketball, that's

668
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: a guy, a center that's like, well, if nobody else

669
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: is going to play defense, then I'm not. Yeah, because

670
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: he's frustrated. I brought it up against the Wolves the

671
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: other night when he's like, is anybody gonna help me

672
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: on the glass here? He's like visibly pointing at guys

673
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: and saying, I got two down here.

674
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 4: Help.

675
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: He's a little frustrated with nobody's ability to stop anyone,

676
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: and he obviously has. He generally can keep a fairly

677
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: all a defense. I mean, he's that good, but even

678
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: he's a little checked out, and then it sort of

679
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: has spilled into his offensive game where you just can't

680
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: shoot right now. But it's bad. And if Adie and

681
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: Lebron don't play like top tier guys, the roster isn't

682
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: good enough. I don't care how many game instance or

683
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: can't redish, it's not they have to be top ten guys,

684
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: which they have been at times. Because the defense is

685
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: bottom of the barrel. They don't stop anybody and there's

686
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: no effort.

687
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they ain't trying. As I mentioned the D'Angel Russell

688
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: the connect and Lebron you could see him as well.

689
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: It was extremely slow. Beside Anthony Davis, no one was

690
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: getting back. You literally just have to watch the game

691
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 4: from the wide camera angled and just see this Heat

692
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: team was beating them down the court over and over

693
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: and over again. You could easily do a sports science

694
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: of the distance that they beat the Lakers down the

695
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: floor every single time.

696
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's what Eric.

697
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 4: This is the heat. Yeah, yeah, the heat got too

698
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 4: good flow Bam. Did you know we've we've been talking

699
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: about Bam because he was being guarded by Anthony Davis,

700
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: and Anthony Davis was giving him the room in the

701
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: mid range to do his thing, and Bam started to

702
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: find his flow and then started to dunk balls afterwards

703
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: because he got into a great spirit. And same with

704
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 4: Tyler Hero. He was awesome in that third quarter because

705
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: he got into a good spirit. But Ad and everybody else,

706
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 4: is it a bad flow? Like he ad twelve on Monday,

707
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 4: just twelve points his season low, and then he followed

708
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 4: by another season low with eight in this game. I mean,

709
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: you look at the numbers last eight games, they're two

710
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: and six. Their average margin of defeat or that span

711
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 4: is twenty two points. Yeah, four. Their six losses have

712
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: been by twenty plus. I mean, that's just effort.

713
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 6: So you mentioned yesterday that Nikola jokicch is the guy

714
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 6: who always has to build the Tetris tower again. Sure,

715
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 6: Anthony Davis is the guy whose kids knocked over the

716
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 6: Tetris tower five times in a row.

717
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 7: He's like, I'm not doing it again.

718
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you build it. Yes, that's what it feels

719
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: like to me watching. I agree. Now, the Lakers conclude

720
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: this little road trip here in Atlanta on Fridays. They

721
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: are and Reddick has said he plans on meeting with

722
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: the players, including some individually, yes, and the coaching staff

723
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: to try and figure out a way out of this

724
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: slump outside of a trade. I'm not really seeing away

725
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: out of the slump, if I have to be honest,

726
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: just the makeup of the team defensively, the Austin Reeves.

727
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: You're right, he's not great defender, but at least a

728
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: little scrappy and you know what you're gonna get from

729
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: him offensively. So they're missing him. But Jared Vanderbilt's not

730
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: coming back anytime soon. It's like the update's like another

731
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: month or so, Like, yeah, it's you do wonder if

732
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: a trade is coming and what that is. And I

733
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: think I am suddenly seeing the brandon ingram whispers he

734
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: wants to go to a winning situation. Is this a

735
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: winning situation better than the Pelicans?

736
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

737
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So look, and I don't think he solves your

738
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: defensive issues, but we'll see.

739
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 6: Here's something i'd be curious about. Preseason, JJ was talking

740
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 6: about limbo rate. Remember we're not crashing the offensive glass,

741
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 6: but we're also not getting back.

742
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 7: On transition defense.

743
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Lakers are twenty third in offensive rebound right,

744
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 6: and they're a terrible transition defense team. So I'd be

745
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 6: curious about that. Limbo Ray, Limbo, where are they in Limbo.

746
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

747
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 6: We also were talking about if the Heat would have

748
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 6: an All Star this season, it would be Tyler.

749
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 7: He's on fire. Yeah, like in the great season.

750
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: He's having like Anthony Edwards like numbers. Yeah right, in

751
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: terms of the shooting the.

752
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 6: Three twenty four per game, forty six from to forty

753
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 6: six percent from the field, forty two from three, and

754
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 6: he's like their go to guy in fourth quarters.

755
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: It feels like, yeah, so good win from the Heat

756
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 2: there especially. Yeah, that's third quarter hero, catch it fire,

757
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: hit seven straight, didn't he deep? Yeah? But bad, bad

758
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: loss for Lakers. Another team struggling, the Pacers lose again,

759
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: especially on the road where they have a brutal record.

760
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: Cam Johnson, though scored twenty six as the Nets beat.

761
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: The Nets beat the Pacers ninety nine to ninety. They

762
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: ended their little losing streak Brooklyn did. But what's wrong

763
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: with Indiana here? So the Pacers just broken and what's

764
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 2: going on with them?

765
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 3: It is unfortunate.

766
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: The prior game, Tyres Salburn calls out his team and

767
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 4: then the next game they don't out with enough. Now,

768
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: they started okay, but then they got buried by the

769
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: Nets bench. They seriously did. It was a huge difference.

770
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: I think it was got up to twenty one. Now

771
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 4: the Pacers did fight back, but the Nets, who don't

772
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: have a ton of depth, showed out in this game.

773
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: I think this was Ben Simmons' best game of his season.

774
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was.

775
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: He came back with a recovery block on the perimeter.

776
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 7: What he got a postgame interview. He made a free

777
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 7: throw in the fourth quarter.

778
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 3: He had an alley oope.

779
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he started the run that alley open.

780
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: He was sort of just standing there.

781
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Duncans Duncans fot and he said, hey,

782
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: right here, I'm wide open because this Pacers team ain't

783
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 4: garden to anybody. And then he just threw it down.

784
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: But him and Keon Johnson helping out. I mean, I

785
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: think everybody on this team was really getting after it

786
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: more so than the Pacers, and that was obviously a

787
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 4: huge problem in this game. And again I bring up

788
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 4: the tyres Helbert and thinking there wasn't enough effort on

789
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: their side. Period. Yeah. I don't want to just you know,

790
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: scheme over it and say that's what it was, but

791
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 4: a big part of it was just strictly effort in

792
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: that locker room.

793
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: What do you think here with India?

794
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 7: Usually it's the defense.

795
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 6: It's the problem with Indiana, and I actually think it

796
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 6: was late in this game. It was a tie game,

797
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 6: eighty to eighty with eight minutes left, the Nets went

798
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 6: on a ten to zero run and it was three

799
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 6: layups and four free throws that were fouls that would

800
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 6: have been layouts had.

801
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 7: They taken them. It was just easy for the Nets to.

802
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 6: Grab the ball in the fourth quarter of a tight

803
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 6: game and run it down the court and get to

804
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 6: the hoop. Some of that is Indiana's defensive game plan,

805
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 6: not necessarily the transition stuff, but they want to limit

806
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 6: three pointers, so they're going to get way out on

807
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 6: the wings and give up shots inside. But it's not

808
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 6: working because their offense is completely discombobulated. What kind of

809
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 6: team are the Pacers offensively? They're not a running team anymore?

810
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 6: Are they a Siacam half court team? Because we saw

811
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 6: that with Toronto they weren't a great offense when he

812
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 6: was the number one guy. It just doesn't seem like

813
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 6: they know how they're going about scoring this year. And

814
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 6: this is a team that's not going to play defense,

815
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 6: so they need to be great offensively and they haven't

816
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 6: been great offensively.

817
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 7: It's like they don't know who their number one guy is.

818
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to be before the Siakam trade, a

819
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: pretty heavy like pick and pop, pick and roll Haliburton

820
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: Miles Turner team. Then things changed a little bit with Siakam,

821
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 2: but obviously the pace was still there and they unlocked something.

822
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 2: But yeah, this year, it's bad, embarrassing first half from Indy.

823
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: They shot thirteen to thirty nine from the field in

824
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: this game, four of eighteen from deep and then they

825
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: also turned the ball over twelve times. But then just

826
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: as bad was when this game was tied. You said it.

827
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: You guys went through it.

828
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: You know.

829
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: Simmons gets the oop, easy oop with like seven and

830
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: a half to go, and then it was a layup

831
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: line for the nets. Jalen Wilson drove by Halliburton for

832
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: a layup. About a minute later, Wilson blows by Halliburton

833
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: in like sort of semi transition. A minute later, shake Milton,

834
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: nice steel. He finishes the layup on the fast break,

835
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: some good old Mattador defense from Halliburton. So yeah, look,

836
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: and that's not his thing. He's not locked down a Fender.

837
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: But that's what's bad because then it was like offensive rebounds,

838
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: like a tip in from Sharp, then another one that

839
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: Wilson grabbed and scored like then Shrewder blew by. I

840
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: guess it was Mathron. That one at the end the

841
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: sort of ice the game. So after the Ben Simmons dunk,

842
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: it was like, I mean, besides free throws, it was

843
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: like five layups and two tippins or something like that. Brutal, like,

844
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: especially for a team that's like, we need a win,

845
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: we need to stop the bleeding here, and they did it.

846
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, for halburn to call them out the previous game

847
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 4: and to not get into their fast pace selves, which

848
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 4: is gone this season. That's that's the odd thing that

849
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 4: they weren't into their their pass mode with what they

850
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: did so well last year was just passed overpass, be

851
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 4: the number one passing team and they just lost that.

852
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 4: And that's the weird thing. And yeah, calling out Haliburton

853
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: and not you know, air quotes leading the team like

854
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 4: he seemingly did last season, it is the right thing

855
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: to do.

856
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: I think that's that's what's hurt them.

857
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: Offensively. They just ain't that same team that runs out

858
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: and tries to kill you with their passing. I mean,

859
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: that's what made them so good, that's what made it

860
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: hard to play them every single night. And then I

861
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: bring up the bench of the Nets bench with Ben

862
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 4: Simmons shake, Milton was awesome off the bench and Dyron

863
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: sharp like all three of those guys, and along with

864
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: Trendon Wofford, they just kicked the Pacers ass. And then

865
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: usually usually that's the TJ. McConnell led bunch from the

866
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: Pacers that do a good job with that. But they

867
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 4: got smacked. Everybody got smacked. There's something going on with

868
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: that locker room. You think so, well, right, I mean,

869
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: they're not being lead. I mean I don't think they

870
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 4: hate each other, but they're not. They're not They're not

871
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 4: a good ball team, that's for sure.

872
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: The other games last night, we had the Celtics with

873
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: standing a three points spree there to beat the Pistons

874
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: one thirty twenty. The Wolves cruise to the one o

875
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: eight eighty victory over the Clippers. I don't know if

876
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: you guys saw the score early in this game. It

877
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: was quite a deficit early. Then not need to stay

878
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: up for that one. There was no second half comeback,

879
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: and then Wagner and Suggs. Franz Wagner I got to

880
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: point out his brother is on the team, and Suggs

881
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: powered the Magic to the one oh six one oh

882
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 2: two win over the shorthanded seventy six ers. Uh no Embid,

883
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: no Paul George, no Lowry, no Drummond. I think I've

884
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: named the guys. But any of those three games, TK

885
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: jumped out to you.

886
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 6: I thought a nice win for the Magic to actually

887
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 6: hang on a little closer than it probably should be.

888
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 6: Jalen Brown had a really nice dunk and he's gonna

889
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 6: be getting fined. I don't think he can do the

890
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 6: throat sway, Yeah.

891
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 7: Sure after it.

892
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 6: That was a ferocious one as well, staring down beef

893
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 6: stew That.

894
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 7: Was a great dunk.

895
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah he I think he even like not apologized.

896
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I'm probably gonna get fine of got

897
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: caught up in the heat of the moment. And I

898
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: think Dwayne Wade once got fined twenty five K for

899
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: doing that. I think when he was on the bulls,

900
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: I want to say, yeah, yeah, I think so he

901
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: probably will get fine for slashing the throat.

902
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: What a change up he went from the monstros dunk

903
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 4: putting the seatbelt on to cutting the throat. That's h

904
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: It was a weird one. Yeah, that's getting fine. Yeah,

905
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: there's no doubt about that. And that's why that's why

906
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 4: the referee asked him about the seat belt celebration. What

907
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 4: are you doing? Should we find you? What is what

908
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 4: is this? Exactly? Because you can't do certain things and

909
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, slashing a throat is one of them.

910
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: Do you think he can try and say no, I

911
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: was putting the seatbelt across my neck like extra safety, sir, sure, no, yeah,

912
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: he's probably break yeah exactly. I'm with you about the

913
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: Magic win. I know it's against again the Shorthand Sixers,

914
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: but that that showed me something to make up of

915
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: this Magic team because they are coming off or they

916
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: rebounded from a bad loss the night prior to the

917
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 2: Knicks there or their last game. I should say, that's

918
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: what good teams do, right, you have a loss, or

919
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: they got embarrassed. I mean, I know they made it

920
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: respectable and did the old point differential to still make

921
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: it to the knockout round, but they came back and

922
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: got this victory and it was tied after three quarters.

923
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: And then they went on a nice little run and

924
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 2: took care of business. I just I was like, Okay,

925
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: that's that's to me when you're like, oh, you're a

926
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: legit really good team. They've won thirteen of their last fifteen.

927
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: They're third in the East. And Fogner was a monster

928
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: again thirty five points. And Suggs was the one hitting

929
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: three pointers from them last night. They only hit eight

930
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 2: three pointers as a team. He hit four of them

931
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: and they won this game in twenty twenty four. Sort

932
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: Of tough to do. But a big part of that

933
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: is you know their defense is good enough.

934
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, Davis Coldwell Pope makes a big difference on that team.

935
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: He had a steel, got in the passing Lady has

936
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 4: steel on a fast break for the seventy seconds where

937
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: he just got in there and stole. He had a

938
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 4: steal when he was helping out as the low man

939
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 4: doing all those things. That's what a team does if

940
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 4: you want to show up at big time. The offense

941
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: definitely questionable. How they don't have a lot of guys

942
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 4: shooting three? Is Anthony Black coming through with the new

943
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 4: braids and also just slashing to the hoop and then

944
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 4: when you got Franz Vagner.

945
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: He's a different guy now.

946
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: When he gets a little bit of a runway down

947
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: the lane, he gets pick set for him. He's so

948
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: good at whether or not he's got to put a

949
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: shoulder in somebody. He just looks like a very different player.

950
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 4: He's so much more confident when he gets the ball

951
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: coming down. He dunked on Gerschean Jebusale, big time dunk.

952
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 4: So they've they've got everything going on for them. Lots

953
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: of good stuff there on that side.

954
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and TK said, if the Heat do get an

955
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: All Star representative, it'll be Hero and I don't think

956
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: there's any question at this point the other FLOORIDA team,

957
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 2: it's Franz Wagner as a Dare I say a lock?

958
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: It feels like to be an All Star with the

959
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: numbers he's putting up, especially with Polo.

960
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: Out, Yeah exactly.

961
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 6: I mean Plo has been out for what fifteen games

962
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 6: almost at this point, so it's definitely going to be Franz.

963
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 6: They did the same thing similar last year, right they

964
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 6: started fourteen and five, they had a nine game winning

965
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 6: streak at the end of November into December, they got

966
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 6: one All Star. Probably the case again this year. It

967
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 6: would be Franz, since he's been the man once Polo

968
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 6: went down. The interesting thing is going to be seeing

969
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 6: if they can get efficient play from Palo and from

970
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 6: Franz when they're both on the court together, because Polo

971
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 6: soaks up a ton of possessions. Not always the most

972
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 6: efficient guy, though he has been when he was on

973
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 6: the court early this season. Fran's the same, great player,

974
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 6: usually more efficient than Paulo, especially when's shooting the ball

975
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 6: like he has been this season. When they're actually on

976
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 6: the court together, both trying to have thirty percent usage rates.

977
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 6: What happens? Who cares good problem to have? Look at

978
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 6: the Celtics and they took him forever to figure it out.

979
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 7: True, they did.

980
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: True, it's a good point.

981
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 4: Any other Yeah, yeah, One thing that I need to note.

982
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 4: I can't believe it, but the palming violation is back. Yes,

983
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: they are back. I thought palming was dead because players

984
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 4: can kind of sort of put their hand underneath the

985
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: ball and then get away with it because it's not

986
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 4: quite underneath the ball. It's not called until Franz Wagner

987
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 4: was called two nights in a row. Franz Wagner guilty

988
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: both times and the cherry on top.

989
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 3: John Moran also called for palming. Maybe NBA Cup.

990
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 4: Games are called a little bit tighter because the palming

991
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 4: violation is back.

992
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: I do remember that Ja Moran one the other night. Yeah,

993
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: look they are, they are doing it. They are palming it.

994
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 2: But watch Trey Young, watch it. Basically, watch any lead

995
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: point guards that has the ball in their hands. A lot,

996
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: there's a lot of like yeah, just like look, yeah, sure, call.

997
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 6: It shocking when they're actually calling what I remember, like

998
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 6: when the the NBA basically made Jordan Pool into a

999
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 6: terrible player.

1000
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 7: They started violations and it was over for him.

1001
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Any other notes on any of

1002
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: those games, probably not a lot. With the Wolves Clippers game.

1003
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 4: Hey, Franz Wagner twice violation minnesot timber Wolves twice held

1004
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: l A teams to eighty points. Yes, sure, that's not bad.

1005
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: That's that's well done for them. They feel like they

1006
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 4: sort of look like the defense from last year Rudy

1007
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: Gobert five steals. What Rudy Gobert doing that thing? Like

1008
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 4: he looks like he's back. They look like they're having

1009
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: fun a little bit. And they have such a tough

1010
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: schedule to close out twenty twenty four, so it ain't

1011
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 4: going to be easy for them. But this is it

1012
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: right here, right now. You go to Golden State to

1013
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: play two games Lakers, Spurs, Nicks, Warriors, Hawks. That's the

1014
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 4: easiest one. Mavericks, Rockets, Spurs, Thunder Celtics to open. That's tough, dude,

1015
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 4: that is tough.

1016
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 7: It's ridiculous.

1017
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 6: They're playing California teams for like three weeks Spree, Kings, Clippers, Lakers, Clippers, Warriors, Warriors, Lakers.

1018
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah's at least two colf weeks there for sure.

1019
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: And just to give you the numbers from that Celtics game,

1020
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: I said three point spree. It really was, so I

1021
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: was probably downplaying it. The Pistons went twenty for thirty

1022
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: nine from deep. Not bad. That's a damn good percentage

1023
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 2: fifty one percent, and the Celtics are like, ah, well,

1024
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: we're going to take more and hit one more than you.

1025
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: They went twenty one for fifty three, so not as

1026
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: greate as percentage, but got a little bit more up there.

1027
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: So that's nearly forty percent. So that's all you saw.

1028
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: You saw forty one three pointers. If you went out

1029
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: to watch the Pistons Celtics game last night, which we

1030
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 2: saw our guy chieve was that eating a horizontal pizza

1031
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: as he called.

1032
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 6: It, Like he emailed it about this horizontal pizza a

1033
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 6: month ago, Like what are you talking about?

1034
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 4: Man?

1035
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 7: Then I saw that horizontal pizza unbelievably lost.

1036
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1037
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it went across two people.

1038
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, So from crust the point, Yeah, that's right.

1039
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 7: A lot of pizzas are measured, of.

1040
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: Course, a crust the point for sure. Okay, let's get

1041
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: to the Pickham for tonight tasks. Just to give everybody

1042
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: the standings. I remained perfect. I'm bouncing back from that

1043
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: pumpkin pie payoff that I lost November. I'm three and

1044
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: Ozero and the rest of you guys are one and two,

1045
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: So you guys are tied right now.

1046
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: The buck Well. Last night was painful and I just

1047
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 4: want to complain here for a sec because Orlando was

1048
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 4: favored by three and a half in Philadelphia. The game

1049
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: was a three point lead for Orlando. Five seconds left,

1050
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: Tyrese Maxi goes into the three point line and he

1051
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: was fouled by Anthony Black, who was trying to foul

1052
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 4: him because it was determined that in their huddle. Maybe

1053
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: we want to send the guy to the line for

1054
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: two shots instead of watching for three. But the referees

1055
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: didn't call it because it was done very very quickly,

1056
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 4: and Tyers Maxy just chucked it. Yeah, but he was hit. Anyways,

1057
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 4: I did it to myself, and that's what really hurts.

1058
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: So you do it to yourself, you do, and that's

1059
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 4: what really hurts.

1060
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 2: Because you said they're up three and then I guess

1061
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: they fouled then too. Yeah.

1062
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, then they went to the free throw and they

1063
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 4: made it five points. But I knew Orlando going into

1064
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 4: Philadelphia three and a half point. I knew Philly didn't

1065
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 4: have Paul George there or unlikely to have Joel Embiid.

1066
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 4: I just thought it was too stupid a line. But

1067
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 4: nobody bets Orlando. I guess this is what's happening.

1068
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 7: Not enough radio head lyrics.

1069
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: Yes, I did.

1070
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 7: Unbelievable.

1071
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: Uh what a paranoid android. Sometimes I forget who sings it,

1072
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: so thanks for reminding me. Anyway.

1073
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 4: Anyway, it was great tonight. Spurs are hosting the Bulls

1074
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 4: and they're two and a half point favorites. We all

1075
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 4: feel comfortable, other than Trey that the Spurs are going

1076
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: to do it. And you know, when I see this

1077
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 4: close line, I say, well, Trey is gonna want Well.

1078
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: I almost went with TK on this, so I got

1079
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: I was torn. This is a yeah, this is.

1080
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 3: A good one, good line.

1081
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 2: Hey, they're good at this. I went back and forth.

1082
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: I can see the Bulls, you know, pulling this off.

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Speaker 2: But Spurs the scrappy bunch. I don't know.

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00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 4: So for Esh Skeets or myself to get the W,

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00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 4: the Spurs have to win by three or more. Well, Trey,

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00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: how are you feeling about your Bulls pick?

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Speaker 7: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 6: This is an interesting spot for the Bulls to be

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00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 6: in because they would lose their pick to the Spurs

1090
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 6: depending on where it ends in the draft order. So

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00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 6: it actually behooves the Bulls to lose this game, so.

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00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 7: They'll probably win.

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00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, I like the thinking. Okay, okay, computer, all right,

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00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: So that's tonight's game. Bowl Spurs Spurs favored by two

1095
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: and a half. Big thanks to Hall of Famer David

1096
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: Aldridge for jumping on with us morning. I thought that

1097
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: was a really fun conversation. Again, I highly encourage you

1098
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: to go check out the Basketball one hundred That link

1099
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: is in the show notes. It'll take you right to

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00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: I guess the publisher's page. That'll take you to wherever

1101
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: you want to buy that thing. So go check that out.

1102
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: I'm loving the book so far. If you're a Survivor fan,

1103
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: join us over at Nobuffs at one pm Eastern. We're

1104
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: talking about Operation Italy. That's right, what an at? What

1105
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: an episode? One of the greatest episodes of the New Era.

1106
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: People are saying, So we're gonna have a lot of

1107
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: fun TKJD, Nora and myself breaking that down again. That's

1108
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: around one pm Eastern. That link for No Buffs at

1109
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 2: least YouTube pages also in the show notes. So come,

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00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: hey there, it is good.

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00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 6: That horizontal pizza. They're barely even squishing together to get close. Yeah,

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00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 6: that's how big that pizza that is. That's that's crazy.

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00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 6: You think we're talking eighteen inches across the tip there?

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00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for and a half.

1115
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, there's a monster.

1116
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 3: Sous Pizza is a month.

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00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: That's a fascinating thing, like to sell at an arena

1118
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: when you think about it, because we were like talking

1119
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: about food that's easier to eat in your seat and

1120
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: carry and stuff like pizza genuinely pretty easy, but then

1121
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: you're making it a little difficult.

1122
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 7: That one, specifically.

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00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: Saying how do you go.

1124
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: About eating that?

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00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1126
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 7: All right, we need another follow up.

1127
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 6: Jeams show us a video of how you eat this pizza?

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00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 4: He's fulling it in a half right, like a New

1129
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 4: York pizza.

1130
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: Maybe rolling up like a yeah all right. Well, we'll

1131
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow to talk about all the games tomorrow. Wow,

1132
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: it's a Drop podcast. What am I talking about? Maybe

1133
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: Worse of the Week nominees, rapid fire Fun. We'll actually

1134
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: do some fun awards on tomorrow's Drop podcast. So join

1135
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: us live at ten am Eastern or obviously download and

1136
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 2: listen to the podcast on Apple, Spotify wherever you do. Hey,

1137
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: shout up, everybody leaving their Spotify wraps, wraps, roll them up.

1138
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: A lot of no dunks, some no buffs. Little is

1139
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: this good? I'm seeing JD. The people are listening to

1140
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: the podcasts that screen. Doesn't it make it all worthwhile

1141
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: when you see those Spotify raps? Oh yes, yeah, yeah,

1142
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: good bros, you heard it here first.

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00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 7: Have a great time. Turn up, Love you guys awesome.

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00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember you will enjoy the

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00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 4: basketball one hundred.

1146
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: I guarantee it.

1147
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 4: As Charles Barkley says in the forward, and as it's

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00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 4: written here on the back, ron

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Speaker 2: Tea Embrace the day people