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Speaker 2: Because the NBA wants to take their sweet ass time

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Speaker 2: with getting to these games, they've extended the talking points

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Speaker 3: Worth talking about when it comes to that, So.

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Speaker 2: We just got to wait our turn and instead shift

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Speaker 2: detail started to trickle out. When it comes to Aaron

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Speaker 3: Who wrote this? Who wrote this? Expect who typed this out?

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Speaker 3: When did Albert become Albert Brie? Mike Florio wrote this,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was a profate Mike, you forgot an r.

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Speaker 3: the best of the best need editors. You know that,

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Speaker 3: you know people to proof read it, at least you

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Speaker 3: know Albert Albert Brie. I'm all right, who's that what

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Speaker 3: what insider is that? Huh? Maybe he was hanging with Lee.

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Speaker 3: Dang hey, Lee, I'm just saying it's not beyond the

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Speaker 3: realm of possibility that Mike could have been, you know,

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Speaker 3: Mama's Mama's truth juice. You know. Uh, Well, listen, he

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Speaker 3: he is like me. You see it, Albert Albert Briham Si,

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Speaker 2: But that is one of the details that has come

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Speaker 2: the details of the contract that he did sign with

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. As we mentioned yesterday, we will get

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Speaker 2: to hear from Rogers. He is scheduled to speak with

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Speaker 2: Did they ask him, No, not yet, because they talk

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Speaker 3: Today. The big day Soday's the big day. Today's a

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Speaker 3: big day. He must have the mighty fallen if today

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Speaker 3: gave a one year deal of nineteen million dollars which

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Speaker 2: I got news for you, anybody, I got news for you,

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Speaker 2: anybody that's got Aaron Rodgers fatigue. Why don't you tell

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Speaker 2: somebody in the NFL to do us as solved and

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Speaker 2: get arrested. Okay, give us something else to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Or go or go do something else with your for weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that dude, I'm so sick. I'll see you on a

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Speaker 3: couple of months. Used to you too, biggest? You came

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Speaker 3: in hot o. My god, I can't get out my mom.

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Speaker 3: I literally can't it. It's like it's hard to unhear

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Speaker 3: it and see it once you once you heard.

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Speaker 2: But uh so so with that, we do have the details,

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Speaker 3: Out by Mike Floria. We'll listen it it happens. Who cares?

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Speaker 3: But point is the incentives. Hey, I would have caught that.

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Speaker 2: The incentives that come along with the Aaron Rodgers contract

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Speaker 2: is satisfied, here's what he'll get if the Steelers make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Will go one at a time. You tell

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Speaker 2: and gets five hundred thousand dollars likely, Okay, if they

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Speaker 3: Depends, all right, depends.

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Speaker 2: If they win the divisional round. And you know, let's

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Speaker 3: Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom

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Speaker 3: It's the same song, but they made it the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: have a lot of perceptions about us. You know how

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Speaker 4: The Pittsburgh Steelers, Chuck Maull and all his friends, them Steelers.

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Speaker 3: How Joe used to dance? What do Italians dance like?

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Speaker 3: Why do you want Italians dance like that?

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Speaker 5: comeby man, let's do it.

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Speaker 6: So so the we continue on the incentive of gravity,

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Speaker 6: the incentive details of the Aaron Rodgers contract. If so

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Speaker 3: Still doable. All of those are doable. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Because if so, Rogers and Rogers takes at least half

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Speaker 3: you want to know what's ridiculous about them doing that?

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Speaker 3: in a woo. This is the problem I have with

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Speaker 3: You can't. You can't set the stage for the standard

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Speaker 3: and you say, okay, if you if you come in first,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're not even done yet. Come, I mean,

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Speaker 2: do you want to know how he can earn an

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Speaker 3: which listen, a contract is a contract. You're going to

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Speaker 3: Is it feasible to think that Aaron Rodgers is motivated

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why this another detail that came out yesterday

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Speaker 2: It's still not knowing how Rogers can pump up his

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Speaker 2: he's doing the belt discount double check, not just for

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Speaker 3: Which one is better? A better loser or just a

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Speaker 3: And you know what it does. It creates false expectations

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Speaker 2: But it does leave leave a little bit of some

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Speaker 3: Know, and it made for a good storyline today, you know,

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Speaker 2: We were during one of the breaks. We were looking

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Speaker 3: You're sensationalizing, you're covering, you're leveraging, you are benefiting off

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: What other team are we talking about the fourth string guy?

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Speaker 2: I saw a tipped interception, but that was on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: are you're being fed, is telling you're being fed Shador

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00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: Sanders moving the offense up and down the field, getting

435
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: them into the end zone, making completions and listen, I'm

436
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: not here to try to put Shador.

437
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: Down at all. It's just an observation. Let me be

438
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 3: clear on that. This isn't me saying this like you

439
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: should hate Shador Sanders or hate Dion. That's in fact,

440
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 3: it's total opposite. I'm a fan of them. I'm not

441
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: against them. I'm a fan of them. But this is

442
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: an observation as a media person, is that the stage

443
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: is being set for Cleveland to be trapped. They're in

444
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: and maybe that's why you saw the looks on them

445
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: people's faces when they drafted, because for good or for bad,

446
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: they're trapped.

447
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: You know what, I think part of it was tell

448
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: me if this is a crazy thought. Clearly it was

449
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: a Jimmy hasm decision. I think part of the motivation

450
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: was this helps drown out some of the negative coverage

451
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: over the Deshaun Watson backle because, as you pointed out,

452
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: this is all we're seeing. Have you seen any Dylan Gabriel.

453
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 3: Have you seen any of his throws? Have you seen

454
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: any of his throws?

455
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: I don't even know Dylan Gabriel could have changed and

456
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 2: gone right handed in camp.

457
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: I would have known. Is he still on the team.

458
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: Where's he at? Ain't seen us from?

459
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 2: And also, you don't hear a damn thing about Deshaun Watson,

460
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: do you, other than his bachelor party.

461
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: The one thing we saw with come on the starter,

462
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: who's the start? The one thing we saw with Joe

463
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: Flacco is him saying he doesn't want to be a mentor,

464
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: he's there to start. And then the the highlight of

465
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: him and Shador Sanders and Chador was doing some type

466
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: of dance and was trying to get Flacco to do

467
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: the dance and Flacco was like, I'm gonna go throw

468
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: this ball, like I'm gonna go I'm gonna go qqb

469
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: this this player or two. You know, it's just interesting

470
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: because Cleveland is in a bad, bad, bad spot. If

471
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: if Shador Sanders isn't what at at worse the backup.

472
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: They are going to fry the media because of what

473
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: I think, because of what they feel coming out of

474
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: the draft and how they covered it, and how they've

475
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: been shamed and made to feel like y'all took advantage

476
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: of Shador Sanders. Y'all drove a whole entire draft off

477
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: of Shador Sanders, and they're right. Whoever sang it, you're right.

478
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: If Shador Sanders at worse isn't the backup on this team,

479
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 3: there's going to be hell to pay through the media

480
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: at best if he. If I am the head coach,

481
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: the GM and the owner of this team, I'm naming

482
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders my starter today to day. You know why

483
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco love you to death. You gave us a good, good,

484
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: good little run. You're a raven chick Rocks, Kenny Pickett,

485
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: you ain't shown us that you that good at all.

486
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: You here for an insurance policy, Kick Rocks, Dylan Gabriel.

487
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: We took you with the third pick, third round pick.

488
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: We feel really good about what you could possibly be.

489
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 3: But do we ever see you as a starter. I

490
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: don't know. It's a strong possibility that you're not a

491
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: starter for our franchise, it's a very strong possibility, but

492
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: my goodness, you probably can be a really, really good

493
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: backup for us at some point in time. If I'm

494
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns. If you're looking at the coverage of

495
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders and the way all of this is kind

496
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: of being properly placed on the table, you about to

497
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: get served. If you don't see this coming, just name

498
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: him the starter today. Name him the starter, and let

499
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: him do what he's going to do for good, for bad,

500
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: or worse, whatever it is, allow for him to do

501
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: it because you drafted him. You drafted him, and it

502
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: makes you start to think, did he drop in the

503
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: draft because of his talent or did he drop in

504
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: the draft because of his fame. That's the conclusion I've

505
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: been coming to lately. It's his fame and it's his influence.

506
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: You do not want when you hurt Stephen they call

507
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: that man comparable to Colin Kaepernick. You have now made

508
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: this a racial cultural compare in terms of why this

509
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: man isn't being respected as a talent. You've taken it

510
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: out of the realm of being a player and being

511
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: a pro and you've placed it in the social and

512
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: cultural expectations of a cultural and social and racially driven

513
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: and activated America. Right now, it's dangerous, Like that's dangerous.

514
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: The conversations surrounding Shador have kind of muddied the waters

515
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: on the evaluation of Shador, and I don't know how

516
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: to separate the two from the standpoint of I'm not

517
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: sure if he dropped in the draft because of talent

518
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: or because of other stuff off the field, because it's

519
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: not like he's been I don't recall him every getting arrested.

520
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: I don't recall him ever getting suspended. I think they

521
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: just are very vocal, very confident, and the Colorado program

522
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: felt like a rock concert or a rap concert every

523
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: time you went there, and it literally was they like

524
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: they literally had concert. So there was just there was

525
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: a spectacle surrounding it for a team that didn't really

526
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: do anything other than improved significantly upon what they were

527
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: before he got there and before his dad took over.

528
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't know where the evaluation of

529
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: him is as a player, and and I don't know

530
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: what to really legitimately expect as far as his role

531
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: with this team, because if we get to the regular

532
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: season and he's the third stringer and or they've got him,

533
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: you know, sitting third string and and he's you know,

534
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: not suiting up for games.

535
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, better win. I don't. But it's think about the

536
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: pressure you're putting on the starter. Think about the pressure

537
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: you're putting on the backup.

538
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: Oh look, I brought it up to Albert Breer last week,

539
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: and it was just like, hey, man, I mean, if

540
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: you're Stefanski, you're kind you're in a tough spot. Dude

541
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: like you, You've now been given right or wrong two

542
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and a quarterback situation from your owner. One of

543
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: them is impossible to succeed with because Deshaun Watson is

544
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: not even playing anymore.

545
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: And the other you're damned if you do, You damned

546
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: if you don't.

547
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: If you start Joe Flacco and it's not gonna be

548
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: shit or Sanders, then people.

549
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: Are gonna be like, well, you're gonna get You're gonna.

550
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: Get pressure from well, I mean, you're you're kind of

551
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: a middle of the road team.

552
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: Why not give the young guy a shot? Of the

553
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: storylines connected to that? How many different directions and angles

554
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: can you come from talking about how the Cleveland Browns

555
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: have handled that position in particular. I'll say this.

556
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: People can say whatever they want about preseason football, tell

557
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: me you're not gonna watch those preseason games for the.

558
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 3: Brows this year. I'm in. I want to see him play.

559
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: I want to see how this goes. It makes it

560
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: makes the It's just the expectation, the amount of attention

561
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: as you're you're mentioning, it just raises the stakes so high.

562
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: And it's a fifth round draft pick, a fifth round

563
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 3: draft pick, and he has been positioned. We have seen

564
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: more highlights on ESPN, NFL Network, Fox Sports, Fox Sports

565
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: FS one. We have seen more highlights of Shadors And

566
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 3: this is important to understand this piece of it because

567
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: this small detail of it will become a ginormous detail

568
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: as we move forward. You are seeing oversaturated coverage of

569
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: a fifth round draft pick completing passes over and over

570
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: and over and over again. You're watching a fifth rounder

571
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: in practice, not the game, not a game, not full pets.

572
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: He's in practice, and they keep showing you clips like

573
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,959
Speaker 3: you thinking of one where to du dove and cut

574
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: it going into the end zone, like they're creating NFL

575
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: film highlights of Senor Sanders playing ball in practice and

576
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 3: OTAs we ain't even got the training cat. This ain't

577
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 3: even training cat. Can you imagine the coverage on schor

578
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: Sanders when they get to training camp. They're gonna have

579
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: a Shandor Sanders camp. Look.

580
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: I know that it was impossible because of whatever rules

581
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: or restrictions it has.

582
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: But that's why I said.

583
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 2: At the time, if you were HBO, if you could

584
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: swap out the bills for the Browns on hard Knocks,

585
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: would you not do it? Like it'd be the best

586
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: rated hard knocks they've had in years? Because people want

587
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: to see how this plays out and how many how

588
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: many completions have you seen cam Ward throw the number

589
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: one pick in Ota?

590
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: I haven't seen one. Yeah, I have not seen one. Hot.

591
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: I don't even know if Jackson Darts picked up a

592
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: football yet. I have no idea. I haven't. I've seen

593
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: Jackson Dark getting a lot of love and a lot

594
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: of coverage from the media, especially from like the social

595
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: media team of the Giants. Like I pay attention to

596
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: all this stuff. I sit on my phone and I

597
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: look at all the stuff going on, what's hitting the

598
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: algorithms and all this and sports and da DA DA

599
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: and NFL or NBA. I look at all these things.

600
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: I'd look all day long. Shador Sanders. The coverage on

601
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 3: him is.

602
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 7: WOWD it is w I L D wild. I'm telling

603
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 7: you think about You're going to stop. Everybody who's listening.

604
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 7: You're gonna stop.

605
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: You're gonna take a moment, and then you're gonna take inventory,

606
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna realize that Shador Sanders is being

607
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: positioned to all of you to be the guy for

608
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns, and if he's not, it is going

609
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: to be every single reason he was let down. There

610
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: will not be one person that says Shador Sanders isn't

611
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: the starter or the backup because somebody actually was better

612
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 3: than him. Now, whether it's true or not, I think

613
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 3: the travesty here, honestly, here is the true travesty of

614
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 3: this situation. Shador Sanders is a hell of a football player.

615
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 3: That young man can play some football. He's been a

616
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: clutch kid since eighth grade. I know it because he

617
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: played in my game. The problem that's want to take

618
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: place here is that same pressure that is going to

619
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: be applied to the Cleveland Browns and to the starting

620
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: quarterback or who's ever in front of them. Multiply that

621
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: by however many fold you want to as to what

622
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: that's going to look like for Shador Sanders, Because just

623
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: as much as they'll build you up in these types

624
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 3: of moments, we paid it off. We paid it off.

625
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 3: We did what we were supposed to do. We hoard you,

626
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 3: draft came, we used you, we rode you, We attached

627
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: to the carts to Shador Sanders, and he delivered for

628
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: our draft this year. You've been paid. We're even he

629
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 3: gets in there. Whatever comes next is going to be

630
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: based upon what his results are when he gets that operative.

631
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: If he gets that opportunity, it's almost seemingly better that

632
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 3: he not get an opportunity immediately, because he'll get more

633
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: fan fare for being victimized then he will be for

634
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: being the starter for the team. That's what's being set up.

635
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: That's all of this. That's the travesty, because if he

636
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: really is good, then he should be able to have

637
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: the fair opportunity to be measured and weighed as being

638
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: really good. I don't know that there is an environment

639
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: that's being creative for him to have a fair opportunity

640
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: one way or the other.

641
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: It's too far down the road. It's too far down

642
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: the road. And it goes back to that same discussion.

643
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: Sometimes backups, if they're too loud, aren't good backups. It's

644
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: almost to the point to where if he's named the

645
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: number two behind Joe Flacco, all the questions are going

646
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: to be when's he gonna get a chance. The Browns

647
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: are sitting at you know, I don't know, four and eight.

648
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: They can outplay it. Yeah, you gotta be, you gotta be.

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Speaker 3: I would venture to say they might be undefeated, and

650
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Speaker 3: they still be saying they'd be better. They're setting themselves

651
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Speaker 3: up for failure. And then the moment they lose, why

652
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Speaker 3: are you going to be saying, I told you if

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Speaker 3: Shador was in there, they wouldn't they wouldn't have lost

654
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Speaker 3: that one game.

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Speaker 2: And meanwhile, Jimmy Hasmum's like, don't have to hear about

656
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Speaker 2: the Sean anymore?

657
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Speaker 3: Now you didn't you done? Brought in another one? Hey,

658
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Speaker 3: that's all he did, and brought in another one. It is,

659
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Speaker 3: and that this is not Shador sanders fault. By the way,

660
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Speaker 3: this has absolutely nothing to do with blaming Shador Sanders.

661
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Speaker 3: This has everything to do with how media works, how

662
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Speaker 3: politics work, how influencing works, and and that's where we live.

663
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Speaker 3: This is this is where we live right now. Is

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Speaker 3: that a fifth round draft pick is so influential because

665
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Speaker 3: of how strong and how clearly defined his brand is,

666
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Speaker 3: that it has created this type of coverage, and that

667
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 3: coverage will ultimately be the undoing of the Cleveland Browns

668
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: this year if they're not careful.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

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Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

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Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Though you hear the music, you're the smooth operator tones,

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Speaker 2: and you know that that means one thing. It is

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday tradition. As we welcome in the great Pete Prisco,

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Speaker 2: senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS, Sports HQ analyst.

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Speaker 2: Get him on x at Prisco CBS. He's also a

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Speaker 2: Florida Panther blowhard.

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Speaker 3: Pete.

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Speaker 2: Good morning and congratulations on the two to one series lead.

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Speaker 8: And series over by the ways.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, you're calling it calling it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, look, one team can do so many things

684
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Speaker 8: and has a goalie. The other team can do so

685
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Speaker 8: many things and does not have a goalie.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 8: And I said before that game, I said, letting up

688
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Speaker 8: that goal in over time I was gonna be a

689
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 8: problem for Skinner and it was and they ended up

690
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 8: yanking him and now they have goalie decision to make,

691
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 8: so they're deeper. Edminton has the best player in the world,

692
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 8: Conor McDavid, LaVar, Conor McDavid. There you go, there you go,

693
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Speaker 8: And uh, Florida is just too deep for him. And

694
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 8: then Edmonton tried to get tough last night and they

695
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Speaker 8: kind of backfired on him as well. So uh yeah,

696
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Speaker 8: I'm gonna call it series over.

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Speaker 3: Wow. All right, So I guess the pursuit of Aaron

698
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: Rodgers is also over. He is now the starting quarterback

699
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Speaker 3: of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I actually watched the game last night.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, come on, Pete, like you doubting, Uh.

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Speaker 8: Did you enjoy it? LeVar?

702
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Speaker 3: You know when I watch it, I watch it. I

703
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 3: enjoyed my days in d C. I really, you know,

704
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: did a lot of coverage on our radio show, so

705
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: I got to learn, you know, learn it instead of

706
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: just being a you know fan from Pittsburgh, you know,

707
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 3: like Lemieux and Yoger and all those guys. But I

708
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: didn't know the game. Then once I started doing radio

709
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 3: in d C. You know, you're required to know what

710
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 3: it is you're talking about. So I started learning about

711
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: the creases and protecting the ice and icing and all

712
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: that stuff. And goalie play is the key. You gotta

713
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 3: have a dope ass goalie, you know. And you got

714
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Speaker 3: to have some guys that are fearless and aren't afraid

715
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Speaker 3: to get into the crease and do what they need

716
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Speaker 3: to do. And yeah, I mean I like it. I

717
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: like it. I don't watch it very very often ever

718
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: since I've come out here, but yeah, I mean I

719
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: watched last night and it definitely wasn't enjoyable.

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Speaker 8: You know, I was late to the sport too, I'll

721
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Speaker 8: be honest with you. When I was younger, I was

722
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 8: like a kid, and I didn't love hockey, and I

723
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 8: watched it a little bit, but I loved it and

724
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 8: then and then I had to cover it in Denver

725
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 8: when I first started out doing some hockey out there,

726
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 8: And and then you get used to it, and then

727
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 8: you start learning the game, like you said, you understand

728
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 8: it more and it becomes that much better. Now that

729
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Speaker 8: I actually have a team I really like. I think

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Speaker 8: it's great. It's fantastic. Fact I've enjoyed not just because

731
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Speaker 8: of the Panthers being in it, but up until last night,

732
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 8: series was better than the NBA series. And I've always

733
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Speaker 8: been a big NBA guy, Man.

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Speaker 3: Pete, I do.

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Speaker 2: I am curious now that the details are out on

736
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Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers contract, what does that tell you about

737
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Speaker 2: the decision for Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers to

738
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Speaker 2: do unite for this upcoming year.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's going to happen. It was always going to happen,

740
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 8: and it's just a matter of when it happened. Because

741
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 8: there was no conceivable way the Pittsburgh Steelers were playing

742
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 8: with Mason Rudolph. They just weren't. And they knew ultimately

743
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Speaker 8: that Rodgers would make the decision to come back and play,

744
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 8: and they let him go on a timetable. And now

745
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 8: he has to get in there and learn the offense.

746
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Speaker 8: But he's been doing that. He's a smart guy, hild

747
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 8: and they'll figure it out. And all of a sudden,

748
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Speaker 8: now they have a legitimate quarterback. So it made sense

749
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Speaker 8: from both sides. Look, he played well down the stretch,

750
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Speaker 8: last year once he got past his injury, and remember

751
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Speaker 8: all that talk about a couple of years ago, he's

752
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Speaker 8: going to come back in December. Sure he was, because

753
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 8: he clearly wasn't the same guy early last season. But

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Speaker 8: once he got back in there at the end of

755
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 8: the year, I mean he was. I mean once he

756
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 8: got back healthy again at the end of the year,

757
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 8: playing good footbally through what twenty nine touchdown pass That's

758
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 8: more than a lot of guys ty Josh Allen for

759
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 8: touchdown passes. So I think he's going to go in

760
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 8: there and definitely upgrade the offense from what they had. Now,

761
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Speaker 8: are they good enough to get to the playoffs? That's

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Speaker 8: the question even with the Rogers, because the Steelers traditionally

763
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 8: been a run heavy team that could run the ball

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Speaker 8: and do good things in that area and stop the

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Speaker 8: run and turn their pass rushers lose. Well, they weren't

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Speaker 8: the same team last year in any of those facets,

767
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Speaker 8: so I'm concerned from that standpoint. But they are significantly

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Speaker 8: upgraded at quarterback with Rogers.

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Speaker 3: Can you help me with this one, Pete. I'm I'm

770
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Speaker 3: of the mindset that you get what you pay for.

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Speaker 3: You know, whether and even if it's a person that

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Speaker 3: would be deserving of more, if they give you less

773
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Speaker 3: based off of what their compensation is, then you know

774
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Speaker 3: you have to deal with that based upon what you

775
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: value that talent at I look at this contract. It

776
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: doesn't screen to me. We have our franchise guy for

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Speaker 3: a year to take us to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't not to me. It's a one year deal.

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00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 8: That's what the NFL. I mean, that's basically what The

780
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 8: deal has got some incentives in it. If he takes

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00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 8: the far away will get to you know, No, it

782
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Speaker 8: looks I think.

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Speaker 3: He Well, you do value it, You you do value it.

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Speaker 3: You look at it like that's a it's a good contract.

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Speaker 8: For a one year deal on a forty two year

786
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 8: old guy. Yeah, it's a decent contract for a guys

787
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Speaker 8: doesn't need the money. I have no problem with the contract.

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Speaker 3: But see that's my problem for the guy that doesn't

789
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Speaker 3: need the money. Like, so you're we're going to put

790
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Speaker 3: it on that, you know what I mean? Like, what

791
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Speaker 3: are we? What are if if I want to get

792
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Speaker 3: the best player for one year's time, I'm only give

793
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Speaker 3: him a market value of the top quarterbacks. I'm going

794
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 3: to give him a one year contract based off of

795
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Speaker 3: what the market value is of guys of his caliber.

796
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: Was old I got a.

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Speaker 8: One year deal for twenty one million.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's all. That's a comparison, that's not a

799
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Speaker 3: good one.

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Speaker 8: But if they're on the same ballpark, those one year deals,

801
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 8: they're usually the same. It's it's it's the question becomes

802
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 8: what if he plays well and wants to continue playing,

803
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 8: then all of a sudden you have to figure that out.

804
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Speaker 3: That's a complex that's a complex situation to find yourself in.

805
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 8: For certain Well, yeah, but but they haven't fixed the

806
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 8: quarterback position, LeVar quarterback position. You're going to be playing

807
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 8: this pluck one for a year game. I mean that

808
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 8: that's the way it is.

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00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 3: Doesn't it make sense to you to do it two

810
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 3: years in a row?

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Speaker 8: Doesn't make sense? No, But but they they missed on picket.

812
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 8: If they did a picket, they would ticket.

813
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: They did picket.

814
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Speaker 8: So until you fix it, you got to keep trying

815
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 8: to get guys like this to play. Is it the

816
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 8: Is it the solution you want? Absolutely not. But in

817
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 8: this scenario, would you rather have Mason Ludolf? Would you

818
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 8: rather have Aaron Rodgers? I mean it's a simple It's

819
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,959
Speaker 8: a simple answer to an easy It's an easy answer

820
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 8: to a simple question. It's Rogers time ten.

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Speaker 3: Where do you put the draft the draft pick in

822
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Speaker 3: all of this? Because to me, I feel like, like

823
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: you said, you are searching for that guy that can

824
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Speaker 3: be your franchise guy who wants to keep doing rent

825
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 3: a QB. You know, this is two years of rental QB.

826
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Speaker 3: Is this is this just buying time to get you know,

827
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Speaker 3: the kid out of Ohio State. Will Howard get him

828
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: ready to go? Or is there another play here that

829
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: you think future future wise, they're waiting to try to

830
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: find the guy that's going to be the guy? Like,

831
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Speaker 3: what's the reasoning behind Like I understand getting Aaron Rodgers,

832
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: he he upgrades you from what you have, But is

833
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: getting Justin Fields and Russell Wilson last year? You know,

834
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: is that the solution to getting to this year where

835
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, the solution is bringing in another guy

836
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: that that is on a one year deal, you know,

837
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: show me type deal. What is the what like if

838
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 3: this is how you're doing things, what is the ultimate

839
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 3: goal for this team?

840
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 8: They got to draft the quarterback eventually and get him

841
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 8: early in the draft book. Howard is an interesting guy,

842
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 8: but you can't expect him where he was drafted, to

843
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 8: come in and become the long term answer. You hope

844
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 8: maybe you hit it, but you don't know, and I

845
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 8: don't think you'll know this year. But here's what you

846
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 8: got to do. If you go in and Rogers stinks

847
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 8: and that draft pick is bad, then you got to

848
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 8: find to go into a deep quarterback class next year

849
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 8: and get one. There's a ton of them next year's draft,

850
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 8: by the way, and so a one year deal makes sense.

851
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 8: They missed on picket, they tried it, they didn't hit it.

852
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 8: Now now you go back, you gotta scramble. You get fields,

853
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 8: you get Wilson, like you said, you get Rogers. You're scrambling.

854
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 8: It's scramble mode. Well, if this doesn't work, you go

855
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 8: back in next year. There might be nine guys or

856
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 8: eight guys that you can pick a quarterback out of

857
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 8: next year. If arch Manning comes out, nuss Meyer, Sellers, Leavitt,

858
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 8: I mean the kid that transferred from cal to Indiana.

859
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 8: I mean, there's a ton of guys in next year's

860
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 8: draft back. Maybe he has a resurgence. So there's six, right,

861
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 8: off the bat, you know, and I haven't even thought

862
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 8: about the rest of them. There's a lot of them.

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Speaker 8: So maybe you get your quarterback next year. You play

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Speaker 8: with Rogers this year and get your quarterback next year. Look,

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Speaker 8: I know people sit there say wall keep keep saying

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Speaker 8: next year, next year, next year. But what are you

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Speaker 8: supposed to do A play with Mason Rudolph No.

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Speaker 2: Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Pete,

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about this in regard to

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Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers conversation, because one of the stories that

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Speaker 2: was out there, I think was Adam Schefter reported this

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Speaker 2: that Rogers was the third option for Pittsburgh, that they

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Speaker 2: wanted Matthew Stafford, they wanted to bring back Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: So they then turn their sights to Aaron Rodgers. So listen,

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Speaker 2: Matt Stafford. I don't know that anybody who truly believed

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Speaker 2: he was going to leave the Rams. But the Justin

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Speaker 2: Fields conversation is kind of interesting because why would Justin

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Speaker 2: Fields unless the money was significantly different, and you know

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Speaker 2: something more than I do, why would Justin Fields choose

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Speaker 2: the Jets as opposed to staying in Pittsburgh and wanting

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Speaker 2: to do it over again without having to worry about

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Speaker 2: potentially getting bench for Russell Wilson for a year or two.

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Speaker 2: Like why the Jets over the Steelers Unless the money

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Speaker 2: was just that much of a difference.

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Speaker 8: The money was probably better. I think it was that

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Speaker 8: he got his contract that the Jets was.

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Speaker 3: A little bit better.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, what did they do him well

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Speaker 8: last year? Did they treat him well last year?

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Speaker 3: No? Yeah, okay, not that his standard I would assume, of.

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Speaker 8: Course not, of course not. And so I think it

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Speaker 8: made sense for him to go to a place that

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Speaker 8: wanted him and wanted him to be the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 8: So I think they did their he did the right thing.

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Speaker 8: And if Aaron Rodgers is his third option, it's because

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Speaker 8: he's forty two years old. I mean, Aaron Rodgers can

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Speaker 8: play for Aaron Rodgers at the end of last year

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Speaker 8: was better than justin Field. I don't care what anybody said.

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Speaker 8: But the question is is can he continue to do it?

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Speaker 8: And that's why I think he's the third option.

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Speaker 3: Pete. I was having a conversation with Jonas earlier about

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Speaker 3: the amount of coverage on Shador Sanders, and I think

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Speaker 3: it's like a repayment of how maybe embarrassed or shamed

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Speaker 3: people felt in the media going with the overwhelming narrative

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Speaker 3: of Shador Sanders in the draft. He basically drove this

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Speaker 3: year's draft and has continued to drive NFL headlines even

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Speaker 3: now as a fifth round fourth string quarterback. I feel

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Speaker 3: like the Cleveland Browns have placed themselves in a very

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Speaker 3: very compromising position based upon the influence, based upon the

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Speaker 3: fame and notoriety, and maybe the possibilities that exist with

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Speaker 3: Shador Sanders. Now, I'll say this, I feel like where

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Speaker 3: we're at now, Pete. Maybe the clarity now for me

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Speaker 3: is that the teams that passed up on him, they

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Speaker 3: didn't pass up on him because of his talent. They

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Speaker 3: passed up on him because of finding themselves possibly in

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Speaker 3: the same circumstances that the Cleveland Browns find themselves in

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 8: I don't buy that. I don't buy that. It's a town.

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Speaker 8: If he could play, they don't care what you do know,

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Speaker 8: he would have if they would have thought he was

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Speaker 8: better than a fifth round pick, they would have taken

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Speaker 8: him in the fourth round or the third round, or

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Speaker 8: some other team would have taken him. I don't buy that.

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Speaker 8: And you know, we get so caught up in all

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Speaker 8: that stuff. Lebar Well he didn't interview. Well, he was

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Speaker 8: a pain in the ass. He was, you know, stand

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Speaker 8: office in the interviews. His dad's a problem. His dad's

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Speaker 8: going to be an influence, and he's got all the

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Speaker 8: other stuff going. If he could play, he could play.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't matter. None of that matters. And the reality

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Speaker 8: is the NFL didn't think he could play. They didn't

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Speaker 8: think he was a quality starting quarterback in the National

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Speaker 8: Football League. Well, now he has an opportunity to go

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Speaker 8: prove them all wrong. We've seen guys prove them all wrong.

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Speaker 8: The greatest of all time proved everybody wrong. There's a

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Speaker 8: six round pick. Well, here's the other part of it.

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Speaker 8: Everything he does, like he'll throw a pass in the

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Speaker 8: training camp and it gets somebody sends it out. One

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Speaker 8: of those aggregators sends it out and says, oh, look

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Speaker 8: how Crady looks. He's still running fourteen. There's a reason

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Speaker 8: he's not getting the snaps until the fourteen And so

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Speaker 8: he's got to be extraordinary to go win that job.

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Speaker 8: If he if he's what he thinks he is and

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Speaker 8: what his dad thinks he is, then go win the

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Speaker 8: damn job. If not, and you don't play very well,

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Speaker 8: you're probably going to be on the practice squad. And

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Speaker 8: so I think that's where it is for him. Go

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Speaker 8: either show up, show off and become the guy for

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Speaker 8: the future, or you're probably going to be the fourth guy,

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Speaker 8: and the fourth guy usually doesn't make the team. There.

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Speaker 2: He is the great Pte Prisco with us here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Get him on X by the way, if you want

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Speaker 3: some of that smoke. If you are an.

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Speaker 2: Edmonton Oiler fan and you want to try and fight, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you this.

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Speaker 3: Is why I saw.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 8: Guys didn't stay up at the end of the game.

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Speaker 8: But there was a bunch of them last night and

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Speaker 8: that yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Pounded on.

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Speaker 8: But they haven't won a Cup in Canada since what

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Speaker 8: nineteen ninety three?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's my freshman year of high school.

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Speaker 8: Well that's how long ago that was. I was thirty

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Speaker 8: three back then.

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Speaker 2: You look great, though, Pete, I know. Get him on

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Speaker 2: X again at Prisco CBS. Pete always appreciate it. We'll

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Speaker 2: do it again next week. There is Pete Prisco, senior

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Speaker 2: NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ, analyst, always

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Speaker 2: a beaming light of optimism here on the show, whatever

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Speaker 2: he appears,