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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the show. My name is Dean.

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Speaker 2: It is a Dean Blundelle show exclusive here on Substack

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Speaker 2: and gives me great pleasure to welcome a man who

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Speaker 2: was gracious enough to put me on his podcast his

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Speaker 2: Substack called The Warning. He is a legendary politico from

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Speaker 2: the United States of America save Darnold Schwarzenegger's second term,

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Speaker 2: almost put John McCain in office, managed George W.

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Speaker 1: Bush's campaign.

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Speaker 2: So it gives me great pleasure to introduce to you

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Speaker 2: a man who has since left the Republican fold because

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Speaker 2: he has fucking values. Please welcome to the show, mister

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Speaker 2: Steve Schmidt. Ladies and gentlemen, Hey Steve, how are.

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Speaker 3: You, buddy? Thank you, Thank you to everyone getting on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's awesome to have you. You know you

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Speaker 2: and I connected over your podcast about it. It's got

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Speaker 2: to be about three four weeks ago. And the really

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Speaker 2: funny part of that podcast was that, unbeknownst to me,

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Speaker 2: my mom is a major Steve Schmidt booster, huge Steve

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Speaker 2: Schmidt fan. So she and she's like, she's British. She's like, son,

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Speaker 2: did you have Steve Schmidt on your show? And I said, no,

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Speaker 2: min I didn't. He had me on his show, and

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Speaker 2: she goes, that's even more impressive. I love him. Tell

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Speaker 2: mister Schmidt all the best. Continue to beat up mister

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Speaker 2: Trump and never stop. Tell mister Schmidt we love him.

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Speaker 1: And my dad's in the.

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Speaker 2: Background going we love him, and I'm like, so there

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Speaker 2: you go. The Blundells are in love with you, Steve.

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Speaker 3: Very nice. Tell your mom hello.

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Speaker 4: Anytime someone comes up and recognizes me, who's under seventy five?

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Speaker 4: My kids, My kids point out, and that's a young one.

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Speaker 4: That's a young so I appreciate it. Yeah, now everything

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Speaker 4: is worse than it was a month ago. I suppose

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Speaker 4: Trump is more of a laughing stock now than he was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think that.

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Speaker 4: A world leader anywhere who takes him seriously. And I

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Speaker 4: don't think you'll see another one in the Oval office

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Speaker 4: for the Shakedown show and in any of the insanity.

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Speaker 4: And he has been labeled this week with a nickname

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Speaker 4: that suits Taco Trump, Oby's Chickens Out and it's so

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Speaker 4: perfectly final and stupid and low brow and pedestrian. He's

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Speaker 4: been finally nicknamed after a pedestrian Mexican street food that's sloppy, right,

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Speaker 4: It stains you a little bit when you pick one up, tussy.

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Speaker 1: It's sloppy like him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect, Yeah yeah. Let's let's get

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Speaker 2: right into it and talk about it, because he was

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Speaker 2: certainly upset the other day when that hero reporter was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: just a quick question. The Financial Times calls you the

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Speaker 2: taco president.

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Speaker 1: As you do taco trade.

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Speaker 2: Trump always chickens out and he gets into it and

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Speaker 2: he does one of these, that's a nasty question. That's

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Speaker 2: a nasty question from a nasty woman. Don't you ever

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Speaker 2: ask me that question again? And he tried so hard.

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Speaker 2: He's like biting his tongue, trying not to come out

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Speaker 2: of his shoes, because you don't embarrass Trump. If you remember,

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Speaker 2: in his last term, someone said something, asked him a question,

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Speaker 2: me that question again.

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Speaker 1: I'm the president of the United States.

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Speaker 2: I mean that is to me, that was like, hey, dude,

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Speaker 2: you could pierce this guy's ego legitimately with a thumbtack.

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Speaker 2: At this point, he's that soft, the underbelly of this guy.

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Speaker 2: Going back to the actual acronym of taco trader, taco.

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Speaker 2: Trump is absolutely perfect because he's an absolute chicken when

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Speaker 2: it comes down to it.

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Speaker 3: This was partly.

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Speaker 4: The m of the Lincoln Project in twenty twenty when

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Speaker 4: it was that this man has the nis ego of

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Speaker 4: any person on the planet. The truest thing I think

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Speaker 4: I've ever said on television was, there's no flower in

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Speaker 4: all the world more delicate than the male ego.

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Speaker 3: And there is there is.

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Speaker 4: No pedal, no bloom more more fragile than the Trump pedal.

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Speaker 4: And that's why you see he's a Titanic narcissist. He's

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Speaker 4: easy to provoke, he's easy to insight. And the question

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Speaker 4: that the reporter, she NBC reporter asked, fair question, legitimate question.

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Speaker 4: She's a business reporter. And this is reality, which is

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Speaker 4: that the traders on Wall Street aren't.

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Speaker 3: Attuned now to making.

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Speaker 4: Money on a pattern that doesn't take a genie us

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Speaker 4: to figure out. He goes out like a barroom bully

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Speaker 4: and he makes a pronouncement, he makes a.

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Speaker 3: Decree and the boy who cried Wolf.

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Speaker 4: There's a one hundred different allegories in every culture trying

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Speaker 3: Since the beginning of time passed through the eons.

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Speaker 4: Right about people like this, And so he goes out

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Speaker 4: and he bloviates, and it's all bullshit, it's all bluster.

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Speaker 4: There's no plan. It's completely incoherent. He's surrounded by Shikophans

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Speaker 4: who look over their shoulder and see a threat behind

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Speaker 4: them waiting to move up a chair, and an opportunity

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Speaker 4: in front of them if they can only stab someone

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Speaker 4: in the back and move closer to Trump by pleasing

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Speaker 4: his ego somehow. And so all of this insanity has

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Speaker 4: acquired predictability. And as soon as Trump's insanity collides with

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Speaker 4: reality and he intuits the consequence, he backs off and

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Speaker 4: he backs down. He's got no resolv he's got no integrity.

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Speaker 4: His word means nothing. And as you point it out, Uh,

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Speaker 4: he's incredibly soft. You know, there's a there's a there's

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Speaker 4: a word that's been eliminated from the vocabulary, unfortunately in

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Speaker 3: It's a crude word, but it's a necessary word.

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Speaker 4: It starts with, particularly with young men, it starts with

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Speaker 4: it starts with p and there's no replacement in the

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Speaker 4: in the culture, and the and the word is pussy,

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Speaker 4: and and and and I don't mean to offend anybody,

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Speaker 4: but somewhere over the last seven years you had the

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Speaker 4: opposition political party became a language police party.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: You can say this phrase or not this one. You

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Speaker 4: can't say you want to reform the police. You have

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Speaker 4: to say you want to abolish the police. And so right,

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Speaker 4: But this word right, every every value, everything that you

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Speaker 4: want your son not to be right.

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Speaker 3: Every every dad who's listening, every mom with a with

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Speaker 3: a son, you want you want.

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Speaker 4: Your son to have an integrity, guts, quality character. When

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Speaker 4: my son got an award at his high school graduation,

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Speaker 4: that was a recognition of character. I've never been so proud.

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Speaker 4: It was something that combined athletic and academic excellence. But

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Speaker 4: the key, the key was that he was a friend

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Speaker 4: to all right, he was a leader and and and

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Speaker 4: this dad incredibly proud of that. And he's he's oppositional

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Speaker 4: in his composition to Trump. Right, and so whole idea

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Speaker 4: what a man is, right, Andrew Kate, this guy's, this

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Speaker 4: guy's that's.

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Speaker 3: Arranged down right.

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Speaker 4: We're more rape allegations now in the UK. And this

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Speaker 4: is what the Trump White House is doing is importing

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Speaker 4: this imbecile this rapist, this selected rapists into the United States.

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Speaker 3: Look, he is the antithesis.

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Speaker 4: Of every quality of character and toughness that they could

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Speaker 5: And and he is he is weak, and and there

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Speaker 5: has to be a way right for people to understand

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Speaker 5: the communicating to young men in the language they understand.

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Speaker 4: How real people talk in real life, right, dispensing with

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Speaker 4: all this LATINX crap. And I don't know where it

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Speaker 4: comes from, to be honest with you, that that Trump

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Speaker 4: is what he is, and what he is is He's soft,

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Speaker 4: he's impotent, he's weak, He's a laughing stock. And that's

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Speaker 4: so important to drive into the culture over these next

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Speaker 4: two years while he does this damage and for people

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Speaker 4: to understand it, not to be afraid of him, not

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Speaker 4: to fear him as he is more and more corner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent sentiment too, I mean, you know, and I

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Speaker 2: think it comes out in pretty much everything that he

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Speaker 2: out in every single legal challenge, And it came out

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Speaker 2: yesterday out of Marco Rubio's mouth, strangely enough, the idea

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Speaker 2: that you cannot have anything that the Trump administration deems

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Speaker 2: unlawful on your social media if you are coming into

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Speaker 2: the United States. And it was really centered around any

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Speaker 2: anti Israel, anti net and Yahoo sentiment, and I want

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on it, because you know, we talk about

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Speaker 2: the world's softest administration. I don't call these jack offson administration.

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Speaker 2: I call them a regime. They're legitimately a regime. They

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Speaker 2: are a regime of authoritarians. There are regime of yes

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Speaker 2: men to your point, sick events, losers, woosies, babies, and

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Speaker 2: they're all criminals, which I want to get to in

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Speaker 2: of criminal aspect, maybe they've been charged with something. We

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Speaker 2: know Trump's been charged with and convicted of thirty four

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Speaker 2: felony crimes. We know he's an adjudicated rapist. We know

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Speaker 2: he's going around giving people pardons that have that are

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Speaker 2: in jail for long periods of time. But we'll get

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Speaker 2: speak to the how soft Marco Rubio was the other

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Speaker 2: and social media in the most free speech country in

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Speaker 2: the world. And if you said anything that was antithetical

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Speaker 2: States has with mister MetaNet and Yahoo. Not only are

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Speaker 2: we not allowing you in the country, we will detain

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Speaker 2: some of you if it's bad. And I thought that

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Speaker 2: But you know, all evilness, all meanness, is born from weakness.

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Speaker 1: Steve Right.

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Speaker 4: So, a couple of years ago I had a big

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Speaker 4: point that I made was that Marco Rubio's origin story,

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Speaker 4: He was the child of Cuban economic immigrants who fled

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Speaker 4: the Batisza regime in nineteen fifty six, three years before

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Speaker 4: in nineteen fifty nine, he would not have been on

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Speaker 4: carrying his briefcase. Ted Cruz went nuts, but it's trip

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Speaker 4: I rest, I rest my case. Marco Rubio objectively has

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Speaker 4: an ignominious one. History will judge him harshly and he

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Speaker 4: he will be held to account for the crimes, for

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Speaker 4: the breaking of the law that he is involved in.

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Speaker 4: Every every day the United States of America, we celebrate

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Speaker 4: free speech. And the idea that you won't be admitted

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Speaker 4: to the country because you are critical of the Israeli

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Speaker 4: it's also un American. And I think it's very important

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Speaker 4: United States extraordinary in this regard, and it's the power

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Speaker 4: of the First Amendment. The late nineteen seventies, Governor Pritzker

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Speaker 4: has talked about this. The Nazi Party decided to march

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Speaker 4: in Skokee, Illinois, and skoky Illinois had the highest per

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Speaker 4: capita population of Holocaust survivors anywhere in the United States.

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Speaker 4: Party was on a march down Main Street Skokee terrorized

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Speaker 1: Can you trust that person's character?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Mark Carney, as you know, I'm a

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Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan and I think that and it's

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Speaker 4: crazy to say things like this because of the duration

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Speaker 4: of Canadian history and the fact that he's been Prime

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Speaker 4: Minister for for less than two months.

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Speaker 7: But more but More Carney is is a line to

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Speaker 7: be very significant historical figure for for for a lot

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Speaker 7: of for a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of different reasons.

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Speaker 4: And I think he almost singularly instinctively understands how to

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Speaker 4: handle Trump. And and it would be terrific if more

448
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: Carney was the leader, or he had a twin brother

449
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Speaker 4: who was an American or sister right who had the

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Speaker 4: same sensibility, was leading the United States Senate. And so

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Speaker 4: it is a it is an astonishing moment to see

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Speaker 4: the collapse of toughness, smartness, common sense and in just

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Speaker 4: how you how you deal with Trump?

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Speaker 3: Right, but you don't, you don't appease them.

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Speaker 4: And every time Trump has been appeased, more chaos, more catastrophe,

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Speaker 4: and the position of the of the opposition, Uh, the

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Speaker 4: position of the opposition deteriorates.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: What I could what I can say about it is

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Speaker 4: that Donald Trump requires confrontation. And when Donald Trump feels

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Speaker 4: pushed back, donald Trump walks away.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 4: There's a I don't know, a you have to be

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Speaker 4: able to look at the look at this situation and say,

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Speaker 4: in the United States, if you're a Democrat, I've been

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Speaker 4: a Democrat now for several years. Okay, We've lost two

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Speaker 4: elections to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I've been involved.

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Speaker 4: In two presidential elections at the highest level. One one lost.

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Speaker 4: One the election I lost that I was involved in

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Speaker 4: that we lost. We lost to Barack Obama. I understand

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Speaker 4: why we lost to Barack Obama. It was a it

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Speaker 4: was a generationally talented political candidate, right, a world's historic figure.

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Speaker 4: If you if you lose to Donald Trump, or you

475
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Speaker 4: you you barely win an election against Harry Lake, you

476
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Speaker 4: should have a lot of a lot of humility. And

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Speaker 4: and so seventy seven million people voted for Trump, and

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Speaker 4: there's a there's a coward of those people who voted

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Speaker 4: for Obama twics and voted for Obia and voted for Biden.

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Speaker 3: Was and those and.

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Speaker 4: Those people got told right by by by an administration

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Speaker 4: that the border was secure.

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Speaker 3: It was not. That Biden was in great shape. He

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Speaker 3: was not.

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Speaker 4: And the economy was the best that it had ever been,

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Speaker 4: and it was not. And every time someone said that, well,

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Speaker 4: those things aren't, so there was someone in the media

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Speaker 4: to shout them down.

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Speaker 3: Some Democratic leader.

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Speaker 4: And the truth about what happened it omitted from the

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Speaker 4: Jake Tapper account is it is from the moment of

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Speaker 4: the Biden presidency started the rationale for the ability to

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Speaker 4: break the promise about running and serving one term was

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Speaker 4: the this notion that only Joe Biden can defeat Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, Joe Biden is FDR. We started

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Speaker 4: one hundred days then. And so after four years of

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Speaker 4: gas lighting and judgment where the leaders of the Democratic

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Speaker 4: Party say we're the good party and they're the bad party,

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Speaker 4: the American people looked at it and said, well, you're

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Speaker 4: both the fullest ship party. He's a disgusting pig, but

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Speaker 4: at least he's transparent about it.

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Speaker 3: Right, and so and so you go into you go

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Speaker 3: into things.

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Speaker 4: Right, you know, there's a story out, you know, Doug

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Speaker 4: em Off it supposedly backhanded a woman right on that

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Speaker 4: he was on a date with in a in a

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Speaker 4: valet line. Right, And this hasn't been rebutted, it hasn't

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Speaker 4: been refuted. But but he's heralded as the new masculinity.

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Speaker 4: How would it have been ard to Eric Trump back

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Speaker 4: backhanded a woman on.

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Speaker 3: On a on a valet line.

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Speaker 4: Right, he knocked up the nanny right, this is this

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Speaker 4: is the new masculinity that we're gonna that we're gonna celebrate.

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Speaker 4: Say anything about it, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be

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Speaker 4: shouted down, right, And of course.

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Speaker 3: I just saw the day. No, it's voter race, racist oppression.

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Speaker 4: Right, No, No, Donald Trump was elected right by the

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Speaker 4: votes of young black men and young Hispanic man black

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Speaker 4: and his fanic voters.

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Speaker 3: Will put Donald Trump over the top. Right, he was

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Speaker 3: He was able to build a coalition of malice. And

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Speaker 3: you knew what he proved, ready proved, Doctor.

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Speaker 4: King entirely right. Character has nothing to do with skin color.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: Right, what he proved because because the coalition that Trump

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Speaker 4: is built is the one we dreamed of building.

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Speaker 3: On the McCain campaign or on the Bush campaign.

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Speaker 4: It's what Jack Kemp dreamed about, building a multi ethnic.

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Speaker 3: Right of center coalition. The problem is.

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Speaker 4: The right of center is not over the right edge,

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Speaker 4: and it's a fascist coalition. And so what we're seeing

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Speaker 4: is an exercise of fascism, including the policing of thought

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Speaker 4: around what you can say about a foreign head of state,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, head of government, which is what Netanya who

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Speaker 4: is right.

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Speaker 3: So in Israel you can say Natanya.

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Speaker 4: Who's been a disaster, but you can't say it in

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Speaker 4: Belgium and want to come to the United States.

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Speaker 2: It's insanity, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: But you bring up great points.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things that I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people think about Demcrats specifically, it's projected here in

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Speaker 2: Canada Democrats good, Republicans bad. But I mean, you take

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Speaker 2: that old line of thinking into Canadian politics. You look

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Speaker 2: at you know, the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party,

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Speaker 2: those would become very very different parties over the past

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty forty years and you know, depending on culti personality.

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Speaker 2: In the United States, obviously, that's what has captured the

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Speaker 2: imagination of so many degenerates in the United States. But

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Speaker 2: they also did a really good job of siloing certain

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Speaker 2: groups and making sure that they felt that they were heard,

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Speaker 2: making sure that they felt that Donald Trump would best

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Speaker 2: represent their interests, and they won the election. But it

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Speaker 2: doesn't it doesn't skate on the fact that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: is indeed a fascist, is indeed an authoritarian. And if

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Speaker 2: you had your eyes open prior to the election, you

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Speaker 2: knew that right Like in Canada, we got a like

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Speaker 2: a front row view of what it was going to

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Speaker 2: be like to have a populace like Donald Trump run

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Speaker 2: this beautiful country of ours, and we soundly rejected them.

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Speaker 2: In two more unspier Paul, I have lost one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty seats. And if you ask a Canadian, that goes

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Speaker 2: back to a couple of things, national pride and character.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: And when I watched Donald Trump also do which is

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Speaker 2: a very opposite kind of result here in Canada, he

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Speaker 2: demeaned the United States for three four months leading up

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Speaker 2: to the election. This place sucks, this place is broken.

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Speaker 2: And the other candidate in Canada, the Maple Mega Canada,

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Speaker 2: did the same thing, but he did it for three years.

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Speaker 2: Three years. And when we got that refreshing change of

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Speaker 2: Mark Carney saying Canada's a beautiful place. It's not perfect,

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Speaker 2: but it is the best example of democracy in the

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Speaker 2: free world, the entire country rallied around that and decided

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Speaker 2: that it didn't matter who the person was, what party

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Speaker 2: they were from. What mattered was were they proud of

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Speaker 2: Canada and could we trust the content of their character?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has done neither of those two things. He

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Speaker 2: is not proud of his country. He's fleecing it, he's

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Speaker 2: currently destroying it. And he told everybody that he would

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Speaker 2: number one. And on the other hand, he also told everybody,

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Speaker 2: America sucks. This place is awful. There's the only way

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Speaker 2: that this place succeeds if you make me the president

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Speaker 2: of the United States.

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Speaker 3: One of my.

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Speaker 4: Favorite stories about the presidency is around Harry Truman who

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Speaker 4: was playing cards up at the Capitol with Sam Rayburn,

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Speaker 4: who was the Speaker of the House. Mister Sam is

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Speaker 4: how he went by and the card game was called

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Speaker 4: the Board of Education meeting, and it was all the

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Speaker 4: top guys, the committee chairman, and that's where you know

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Speaker 4: the government was run over Sam ray Sam ray Burns

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Speaker 4: poker game.

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Speaker 3: And Harry Truman went.

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Speaker 4: Up there on April twelfth, nineteen forty five, and he

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Speaker 4: got a call to return to the White House, and

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Speaker 4: he went back immediately and he had one Secret Service agent,

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Speaker 4: Eleanor Roosevelt was waiting for him, and she said, Harry,

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Speaker 4: the President is debt. And he looked at her and said,

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Speaker 4: missus Roosevelt, is there anything I can do for you?

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Speaker 4: And she said, no, mister President, is there anything I

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Speaker 4: can do for you, And he recounted it as a

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Speaker 4: moment where.

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Speaker 3: He felt like the moon and the stars and all.

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Speaker 4: The weight of heaven it fell on to his shoulders

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Speaker 4: and he had a sign on his desk that said,

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Speaker 4: the buck stops here.

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Speaker 3: And this is the conception of leadership.

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Speaker 4: This is the conception of the presidency in the in

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Speaker 4: the generation that we grew up, and we see this,

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Speaker 4: this terrible abdication of leadership. Now, for me personally, I

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Speaker 4: was a top guy on the two presidential campaigns, ranch

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Speaker 4: Schwarzenegger's US Senate races, ran two Supreme Court confirmations, the

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Speaker 4: top strategist on the House campaign Committee back in the day.

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Speaker 4: Been involved in politics for a really long time. And

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Speaker 4: I was the first person on American television the moment

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Speaker 4: he came down the escalator to say could he could

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Speaker 4: win the election?

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Speaker 3: And in that moment when he came down.

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Speaker 4: Right, there was nobody that I had ever worked with,

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Speaker 4: right from Lindsey Graham on down that was for Trump. Nobody,

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Speaker 4: zero people I knew, zero people for Trump. So this

625
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: is in twenty fifteen. It's ten years later, and now

626
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Speaker 4: the United States is governed by a fascist regime, a

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Speaker 4: cult of personality absolutely obedient to this man, and of

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Speaker 4: every person I've ever known, They've ever worked.

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Speaker 3: With thousands of people, Right, you think about every you.

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Speaker 4: Know for people that are on your got our relationships,

631
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Speaker 4: every whether you're teacher or a plumber, whatever it is,

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Speaker 4: you can every person you have ever known who professed

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Speaker 4: to believe in something right, and you were in a

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Speaker 4: business of belief, they didn't believe it right.

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Speaker 3: And they walk down on it.

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Speaker 4: And so there's like five of us right out of right,

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Speaker 4: an enormous number that have held this position. So then

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Speaker 4: the question for the Democrats for these years watching this

639
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Speaker 4: in horror, and they know all these people, right, you

640
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 4: go talk to a Democratic member of Congress, or what

641
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: is your Republican colleague, who's a normal guy that you

642
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 4: used to or woman that you used to have dinner with,

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Speaker 4: their spouses and all of that, Right, they know that

644
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Speaker 4: it's all for show. Right, they were afraid. Lisa Murkowski

645
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Speaker 4: has said that I'm a United States Senator, but I'm afraid.

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Speaker 4: I'm afraid of Trump. Right, I'm afraid of all this.

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Speaker 4: So what did the Democrats do?

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Speaker 3: Well? They held out and they said this could never

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Speaker 3: happen in the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 4: Until it happened in the Democratic Party on the question

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Speaker 4: of Joe Biden's capacity right to run the risks, And

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Speaker 4: so people go and they say we'll move on. Really

653
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Speaker 4: can't move on until you deal with the necessity for

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Speaker 4: Democrats to realize in order to engage the corruption, the

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Speaker 4: pretend has to stop who was running the country. So

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Speaker 4: after there's a coup, the Trump coup, you have five

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Speaker 4: people that are basically, according to the Tapper book, according

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Speaker 4: to senior wife's house age or quoted in it, that

659
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Speaker 4: Biden is functioning as the chairman of the board but

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Speaker 4: not really president. The executive power is being yielded over here.

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Speaker 4: The press sees all of this playing out. No one

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Speaker 4: says anything.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: The administration is saying the border is secure, that Biden

665
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Speaker 4: is this is the best Biden ever. The guy who

666
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Speaker 4: runs the morning show on MSNBC is looking into the

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Speaker 4: camera saying, fu to anyone in his audience who doesn't

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Speaker 4: think it's the best Biden they've ever seen, that they're

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Speaker 4: looking at after right, two months earlier, he had said, oh,

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Speaker 4: every single person who comes on this show says one

671
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Speaker 4: thing on camera and something else off camera, meaning there's

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Speaker 4: two conversations taking place. One the American people are not

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Speaker 4: privy to, but all the elites in the media are,

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Speaker 4: and the other one. And so it has created a catastrophe,

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Speaker 4: a catastrophe right for the United States, for Canada, and

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Speaker 4: for anybody.

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Speaker 3: Who gets angry and just can't stand to hear right

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Speaker 3: the that there's.

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Speaker 4: This terrible force in the White House that so why

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Speaker 4: are we talking about this? Because it's this that opened

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Speaker 4: the gate to the war with the knife at the

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Speaker 4: throat of the American people and the Canadian people, and

683
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Speaker 4: the British people and French people, and every citizen of.

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Speaker 3: A democratic nation is a NATO country, that's why.

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Speaker 4: And so it's a leadership requires now right to say,

686
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Speaker 4: God Almighty, we lost an election to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: And therefore we have to severn.

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Speaker 4: We have to severn the baggage that we carried that

689
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Speaker 4: was too much, too heavy up the side of the mountain,

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Speaker 4: and we're gonna throw it out the fucking window.

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna have a lighter load. And that's how

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Speaker 3: we move forward.

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Speaker 4: It is urgent, it's sestinity, and it's and it's the

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Speaker 4: fundamental issue that's going to frame the democratic debate.

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Speaker 3: As we move forward into these two election years.

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Speaker 2: M Steve dropping it like it's hot, as they say,

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Speaker 2: as Snoop Dogg says, drop it like it's hot. The

698
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Speaker 2: Tapper book is about Biden's dementia and the cover of

699
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Speaker 2: a Biden's dementia. Tapper's taking bullets big time like he

700
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Speaker 2: is being excoriated by, uh, the extreme left, people on

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Speaker 2: the left. You think there's something to that book, obviously,

702
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Speaker 2: you know people involved in the Biden administration. I have

703
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Speaker 2: not read the book. I'm sure you have or if not, yeah,

704
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Speaker 2: it looks like you have. There's something to it. Right,

705
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: this is not smoking mirrors. Biden was not Biden was

706
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Speaker 2: not healthy. What do you think.

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Speaker 4: The book details the misconduct of six White House aides

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Speaker 4: around around Joe Biden, any extraordinary lack of judgment. Right,

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Speaker 4: And so there are three books that talk about this

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Speaker 4: that are out now, and they will all be elements

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Speaker 4: that historians used to guide is this story is covered

712
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Speaker 4: over the next fifty years. Right, you had you had

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Speaker 4: a president in some sense, like like President Wilson who

714
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Speaker 4: was not functioning and was diluted, and Joe Biden was

715
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Speaker 4: deeply manipulated. I mean he was told over and over

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Speaker 4: again that he could win when he was never ahead

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Speaker 4: for a day in the polling.

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Speaker 3: They didn't share the polling with them, and it's it's

719
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Speaker 3: awful what happened.

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Speaker 4: Now, what Jake Tapper says is this was a conspiracy

721
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Speaker 4: and a cover up in the White House, and I've

722
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Speaker 4: uncovered it and it's worse than Watergate, which I guess

723
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Speaker 4: makes copper woodward, which is bullshit because what everybody saw

724
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Speaker 4: is what everybody saw, and a lot of the people

725
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Speaker 4: in the country saw this and said every time this

726
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Speaker 4: issue is raised, someone in the media shouts it down

727
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Speaker 4: someone in the administration, and then keep telling me that

728
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Speaker 4: what I'm seeing with my own eyes is not real.

729
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Speaker 4: Does it remind anybody of say, I don't know, Sean

730
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Speaker 4: Spicer saying that the crowd size, right, that's bigger, is

731
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Speaker 4: the fact smaller and so and so. Tapper's book is

732
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Speaker 4: insane in the sense that if there is a cover up,

733
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Speaker 4: Tapper was a party to the cover up.

734
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Speaker 3: Right. The media refused to report it.

735
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Speaker 4: Anytime anybody went out said this that hey, he may

736
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Speaker 4: not be able to do this, they were attacked.

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Speaker 3: They were savage.

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Speaker 4: Where in the media by who, by people like Tapper.

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Speaker 3: And so and so it is.

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Speaker 4: Incredible to see a reporter really call himself Bob Woodward

741
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Speaker 4: for uncovering something that was in plain sight, that he

742
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Speaker 4: shouted down anybody who addressed it and ignored every piece

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Speaker 4: of evidence that affirmed.

744
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Speaker 3: It and suggested it. And this is a cover up.

745
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Speaker 4: What the book does is it is it really details

746
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Speaker 4: the deep corruption of the American corporate media. So when

747
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Speaker 4: you think about Trump and the attention he was given

748
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Speaker 4: through CNN to town halls, think about the fight music

749
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Speaker 4: right that CNN scores before the town hall like it's

750
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Speaker 4: a cheap knockoff Rocky. These were existential issues, is stick

751
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Speaker 4: And so a lot of us who said we're in

752
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Speaker 4: a lot of us, but a lot of us who said,

753
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Speaker 4: this is who this guy is. This is what's happened.

754
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Speaker 4: Is that debate is over. And so Tapper is writing

755
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Speaker 4: a book about about about a cover up. But I

756
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 4: thought I spoke out about it clearly. And then Tapper says, well,

757
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Speaker 4: I've learned humility from this. And then Tapper responds to

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Speaker 4: a question, well what about all the critics, and he says, well,

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Speaker 4: nobody who criticized me as anybody I care about, and

760
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Speaker 4: I suppose I'm on that list.

761
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Speaker 3: But he ought to care about what I say about.

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Speaker 4: It, because when you look at the record between Jake

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Speaker 4: Tapper and I, right, and now that he has some humility,

764
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: one of us was right, and one of us saw

765
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Speaker 4: something and the other did not. And his blindness is

766
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Speaker 4: not evidence of a cover up. It's evidence of his blindness.

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Speaker 3: It's so a person who participated in what.

768
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Speaker 4: Happened by being bullied by the people. He says, oh,

769
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Speaker 4: they bullied me, which they did, and everybody who tried

770
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Speaker 4: to talk about this. The idea of the cover up

771
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Speaker 4: is refuted by the admission that they were really aggressive.

772
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Speaker 4: What were they aggressive about that? You're talking about Biden

773
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Speaker 4: liking vanilla ice creaman he's a chocolate guy. It was

774
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: all about the same thing. It was about the age.

775
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Speaker 4: So when Scarborough now says, hey, man, I don't know,

776
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Speaker 4: I never saw Biden like that. You know, I saw

777
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Speaker 4: him when I saw him when he was good, and

778
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Speaker 4: Jake Tapper says to.

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Speaker 3: Just Scarborough, but was your meeting at noon? It was

780
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Speaker 3: at noon, wasn't it, Joe? Oh right?

781
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, they did it on purpose, right, So you

782
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 4: saw the best Biden you were deceived as part of

783
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 4: the conspiracy or the cover up. Well, explain this to me,

784
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 4: Riddle this to me, Joe Scarborough, which is, why, then,

785
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 4: did you say that everybody comes on your show and

786
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 4: says one thing on camera is something else off camera?

787
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Speaker 4: What was the thing that they were saying. What they

788
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: were saying is I can't believe it is going to

789
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Speaker 4: run for re election again. What because this was all

790
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 4: in plain sight, in the cost for this, it's brutal

791
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: for the United States, for Canada, for the world. And

792
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 4: there are people that are so partisan, so deluded, they're

793
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: meant at me for pointing that out, as opposed to

794
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 4: the people that did it and opened the gate. And

795
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Speaker 4: those people think there's somehow any different than the people

796
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Speaker 4: that are on their knees for Trump.

797
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Speaker 3: They're not. They're blue maga.

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Speaker 4: And and so then right, when you when you think

799
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Speaker 4: about this, right, the guy who founded the country, right,

800
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Speaker 4: George Washington, when he left office in seventeen ninety.

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Speaker 3: Seven, what'd he say.

802
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 4: He said, I'm worried about these political parties. Here's my warning, right,

803
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Speaker 4: And so what he warned about has fully come to

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Speaker 4: pass in the year twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I said, I'll tell you someone the

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Speaker 3: other day, Right, if I could, if I could meet

807
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Speaker 3: with all the founding.

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Speaker 4: Follers, right, and I had five minutes with him, right,

809
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Speaker 4: and I had to ask a question, Right, I would

810
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 4: definitely want to tell him how it worked at right,

811
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Speaker 4: And I would I would show them the map of

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Speaker 4: the United States. I would show them a picture of

813
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Speaker 4: Barack Obama, right, And I think that they would understand

814
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Speaker 4: how those things happened. Those things weren't intended when they

815
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Speaker 4: founded the country, right, But those things.

816
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Speaker 3: Happened, And I think they'd understand how. But what I

817
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Speaker 3: would say to them is, what do we do about

818
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Speaker 3: the demagogue?

819
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Speaker 4: Right, Cleon, that's who you were worried about, the Athenian Demagogue.

820
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Speaker 3: He's here, right.

821
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Speaker 4: And So it took a long time for the parties

822
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Speaker 4: to come into a cycle where they both met in

823
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Speaker 4: some equilibrium of toxicity. That opened the door to that,

824
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Speaker 4: you know what, the system is so broken, so roten,

825
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: so corrupt. The American people said, well, elect Trump right

826
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Speaker 4: by a very very small margin. And realizing that, appreciating that,

827
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Speaker 4: meditating on that is of the utmost importance, and understanding

828
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Speaker 4: how to.

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Speaker 2: Defeat great warning it is the title of your substack.

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Speaker 2: Steve Schmidt is my guest. He is a legendary politico.

831
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Speaker 2: He is an incredible substack follow. Highly encourage everybody to

832
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Speaker 2: go and follow Steve at his substack and and go

833
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Speaker 2: and subscribe to him because he delivers this kind of

834
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: dissertation on a daily basis. He lets you in to

835
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Speaker 2: conversations and stories that kind of open up your mind

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Speaker 2: and remove your bias. And that's what I love about

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Speaker 2: talking to you.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: You and I went for a cocktail a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks ago and sat down and what I really respected

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Speaker 2: about you is someone that's not a card carrying member

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Speaker 2: of any party. Someone who doesn't identify or take, you know,

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Speaker 2: a political ideology put in my bio and say I'm

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Speaker 2: a conservative, I'm a liberal, or I'm a progressive or

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Speaker 2: I'm not. Is being able to look at things based

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Speaker 2: on the merit of those things and going through either

847
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Speaker 2: wreckage of the Democratic Party, going through you know, talking

848
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Speaker 2: about the opportunity that Jake Tapper had to opt to

849
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Speaker 2: Jake Tapper himself, you know that your allegiances sit with

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Speaker 2: you know facts, your allegiances sit with you know, what

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Speaker 2: works and what doesn't, you know.

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Speaker 1: And there's a difference there.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference with the distinction and the difference is

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Speaker 2: is that that that is so uncommon in the media sphere,

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Speaker 2: and you're not going to find that on mainstream media.

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Speaker 1: You only find it here.

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Speaker 2: You only find these kinds of conversations here with people

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Speaker 2: like you who've been through the war machine come out

859
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Speaker 2: of the other side.

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Speaker 1: And go, WHOA, well, what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: You know, even back to the founding Father's conversation, letting

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Speaker 2: him in on what's going on, what America became and

863
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Speaker 2: what America unfortunately might be, is that it requires more

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Speaker 2: people like you to be able to kind of read

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Speaker 2: those tea leaves and have those conversations because you know,

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Speaker 2: and it was I was laughing the other day someone

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Speaker 2: was talking about how the left needs a new Joe Rogan,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, enough of the left, enough of the

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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan. The only thing that's going to fix it

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Speaker 2: a people like you and truth tellers that have the

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Speaker 2: ability to actually read those tea leaves and say, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: you want to call a spade a spade, call all

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Speaker 2: spade spades, every single one, not just the ones you

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Speaker 2: don't like call your spade a spade at the same time,

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Speaker 2: because that's the only way we're actually going to come

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Speaker 2: out of this, right, That's the only way America is

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Speaker 2: going to heal itself is by putting something on equal footing,

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Speaker 2: and so not saying we're better than X, but showing

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Speaker 2: people that you're better than X doing those things, not

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Speaker 2: pretending the president of the United States doesn't have major

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Speaker 2: cognitive decline and you're going to run them out there again.

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Speaker 2: You know that debate that we saw, the debate that

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Speaker 2: we saw with Biden and Trump before they pulled the

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Speaker 2: old switch through. I thought, oh my god, how bad

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Speaker 2: has it been and how bad could it get if

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Speaker 2: this guy wins again?

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Speaker 1: And this is in the face of dealing with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Dude, No, there's no question. There's just like a.

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Speaker 4: Fundamental strategic element of this, which is that in a

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Speaker 4: contest between two dishonest choices, yeah, the most dishonest choice

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Speaker 4: always wins. Nobody ever votes for the paler version of

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Speaker 4: the same color.

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Speaker 3: People like vivid examples, and so.

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Speaker 4: In the end, Trump exceeds all scumbaggery by any comparative

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Speaker 4: measure against any standard, any person, for all time in

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Speaker 4: the entire history of the country. But time and time

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Speaker 4: again he finds himself in any situations as the world's

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Speaker 4: most prolific liar, and he is where he's somehow the

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Speaker 4: more honest party in the conversation because of the structural

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Speaker 4: dishonest politics and the great example of that from twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 4: and Democrats had best understand this right for twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: eight if you're running for president, Jeff Bush has asked

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Speaker 4: the question. It was the craziest answer of the entire campaign.

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Speaker 4: Knowing then, Governor, well, you know, now, would you have

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Speaker 4: supported the invasion of Iraq again? And he goes, yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 4: the world is so much less dangerous, right Saint Fergus

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Speaker 4: Sadam is gone now.

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Speaker 3: That may be his opinion, But the answer to.

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Speaker 4: The question was known by the American people who decided

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Speaker 4: long ago that that was crazy.

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Speaker 3: The question was about would you tell.

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Speaker 4: The truth at your brother's expense to the American people

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Speaker 4: where we could choose to bullshit them?

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Speaker 3: Right, and he chose the bullship.

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Speaker 4: And so every presidential candidate is going to get an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to ask and answer that question. Are you going

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Speaker 4: to tell people the truth about what's going on.

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Speaker 3: And in order to run and.

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Speaker 4: Be Trump, you got to be able to critique the corruption,

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Speaker 4: the intellectual corruption, with clean hands. And so Rokanna is

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Speaker 4: a person who has handled I think the questions about Biden.

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Speaker 4: He said, you know, I was the cheerleader for him,

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Speaker 4: but I wish I knew what I knew, And looking

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Speaker 4: back on it, I should have spoken up.

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Speaker 3: I should have done more. And this is the lesson

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Speaker 3: I learned.

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Speaker 4: That answer is totally acceptable with the American people, right,

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Speaker 4: are sick of being be s And if you bet

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Speaker 4: sm enough, right, they'll just say, okay, here's the guy

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Speaker 4: will burn the whole fucking thing down. And they voted

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Speaker 4: for that guy. And when you are a practitioner of

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Speaker 4: fuck youism in life, right, which is the opposite of

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Speaker 4: a gratitude practice, right, it.

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Speaker 3: Always lines up doing injury to you. Right.

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Speaker 4: But but the country that voted for this the people

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Speaker 4: that are gonna be most hurt by or Trump's voters.

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Speaker 4: And none of the impact has even started to apprew yet. Right,

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Speaker 4: We're we're in the we're in the really early early days.

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Speaker 3: But but.

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Speaker 4: You got to appreciate that Elon Musk is going home

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Speaker 4: defeated right and broken psychologically right.

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Speaker 3: And that in the end we're gonna win this fight.

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Speaker 4: Things are gonna get worse, They're failing. Our position will

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Speaker 4: uh will will get better. Trump's will deteriorate. But these

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Speaker 4: early days still of this first year, as we come

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Speaker 4: into this Mitch election, We're gonna have a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of long days.

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Speaker 2: Steve, listen, buddy, I want to thank you for taking

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Speaker 2: a time, specifically as much time as you did with

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Speaker 2: us today, a good hour to talk to us on

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Speaker 2: the podcast, and again highly encourage everybody to go and

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Speaker 2: check out his podcast at Substack.

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Speaker 1: He's got a couple of exclusive interviews.

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Speaker 2: Watch your entire Katie Kuric interview is like going back

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Speaker 2: in time to the Pyline interview.

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Speaker 1: You're but you've done some really, really.

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Speaker 2: Great work And if anybody wants a follow that they

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Speaker 2: can trust in a world in an ecosystem, Substack is terrific.

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Speaker 2: It's the only app you should be trusting or getting

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Speaker 2: your news from right now. Steve Schmid is one of

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Speaker 2: the very few truth tellers who can call it from

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Speaker 2: both sides and also stand on his own two feet

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Speaker 2: and speak truth to power from position of character. Steve

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Speaker 2: let's get together very soon. I think we might see

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Speaker 2: each other this weekend, but thank you so much. Will

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Speaker 2: take care, Thank you, Take care pell.

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Speaker 4: I'm Steve Schmidt. This is the warning you to join

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Speaker 4: this community where I promise to be honest, blunt and

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Speaker 4: direct about what is happening in this country. America is

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Speaker 4: in crisis. Follow and subscribe to this channel and on substaff.

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Speaker 3: Thank you,