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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: Is Ashley and it's Ben. He's back to recap episode

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Speaker 1: three a Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah, sorry about that. I was.

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Speaker 1: I'm in Nashville right now. The man Hope United has

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Speaker 1: board meetings, and so I was in Nashville. I'm in

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Speaker 1: Nashville at the meetings. But we have a little break

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Speaker 1: and I said, hey, if I'm gonna have a little

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Speaker 1: time from the meetings, what their thing to do, then

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Speaker 1: get on here and talk Bachelor in Paradise to my

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Speaker 1: friend Ashley down. I mean, we've kind of like missed

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Speaker 1: each other throughout the fall season. Obviously I was in Vegas,

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Speaker 1: um you were in Italy. We got to catch up

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Speaker 1: on that. And then now it's kind of end of

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Speaker 1: the quarterboard meeting season, so I'm gonna kind of be

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Speaker 1: in and out for the next two weeks, but then

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back at it. We're still watching Paradise.

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Speaker 1: We still enjoy Paradise. This is, uh say, the momentum

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Speaker 1: for Paradise feels like it's definitely picking up after episode three,

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Speaker 1: and today we're gonna have Gena vivan Uh one of

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Speaker 1: the star of the show. I was seriously definitely one

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Speaker 1: of the stars. Yeah, I like gene Vieve. She was

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Speaker 1: in Vegas with us actually, and and I kind of

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Speaker 1: mentioned this you the last time we're together, but I said,

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Speaker 1: I said, I could just see what kind of person

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Speaker 1: she would be on the beach by who she is

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Speaker 1: in person. And some might love her. I think she's

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Speaker 1: gonna have a massive filing. Some might not like her.

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Speaker 1: She definitely reminds me of a lot of the characters

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Speaker 1: that we remember from Paradise of the Past, totally. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She is like not afraid to be dramatic or have

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Speaker 1: And I love that. So we'll have jenevieval and a

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Speaker 1: little bit and we'll talk all about her storyline with her,

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Speaker 1: of course, but before we do, before we get to

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Speaker 1: her storyline, which was a huge part of this episode,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about some other things that went down during

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Speaker 1: this this episode. So first we start with the cocktail party.

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Speaker 1: It's where we left off, and I guess, like the

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of things going on. Of course, one

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Speaker 1: is that Jacob is basically the Bachelor in Paradise. He

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Speaker 1: is probably the guy with the most rows up for grabs,

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Speaker 1: you know, like he has no firm connection to anyone,

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Speaker 1: and we see Lace and Kira and Haley particularly going

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Speaker 1: after him. No big loves, I don't think coming coming

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Speaker 1: out of any of those relationships. But he's got to

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Speaker 1: give his rows to somebody. Did you see this one coming, Ashley?

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Speaker 1: I mean I think as a viewer, we see a

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Speaker 1: guy show up to the beach shirtless, very little his body,

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Speaker 1: here's now. Actually I kind of didn't finish my thoughts there,

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Speaker 1: so let me finish my thought and then finish my

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Speaker 1: second thought. My first thought is he shows up the

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Speaker 1: beach be much nude, it's a lot of attention, a

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Speaker 1: lot of lass, and we think, hey, that's for show, right,

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Speaker 1: he's the one guy willing to do this. However, we

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Speaker 1: saw last season with Kenny work out really well, and

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Speaker 1: now we're kind of seeing it with Jacob. Now, like

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Speaker 1: and he's not without some affection, and so is this

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Speaker 1: that's ripped. It's all the gets all the uh kind

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Speaker 1: of like I guess, well, it's great for for a

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Speaker 1: week that he has the rose, but not necessarily the

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Speaker 1: usually need to have a pretty good connection going forward,

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Speaker 1: party storyline is who is going to give Victoria a rose?

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Speaker 1: You know, Victoria is gonna get a rose, but is

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Speaker 1: siren that's like the sexy siren arose after just really

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Speaker 1: one sit down. Yeah, well, I think we've seen it

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Speaker 1: every season with Paradise, so we've talked about this before.

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Speaker 1: You're in Paradise to date, right you, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the it. What makes Paradise beautiful is

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Speaker 1: the boundaries and typical traditional ways of dating are kind

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Speaker 1: of have to be thrown out the window. Right You're

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Speaker 1: of things and saying, Okay, I'm into you, interest it

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Speaker 1: But it feels like most of the time couples that

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Speaker 1: person is. That's my thought. Are you saying that you

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Speaker 1: think that Johnny may regret this decision? I don't know. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well we'll find out soon. Uh. And we do also

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Speaker 1: have Romeo hanging around, and Rodico is um Romeo. He's

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Speaker 1: got himself into the situation. That's true. Very Blake Hortsman, Oh,

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Speaker 1: we can't compare Romeo's actions to that was a little

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that Justin's getting the attention or kind

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Speaker 1: also think that we have to talk. Well, I want

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Speaker 1: How could he have handled that better? Or what if

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Speaker 1: what else of so Street, just going to the Rose

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Speaker 1: ceremony and what happens, Like we said earlier, so much.

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Speaker 1: There's so much here actually we have to talk about

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Speaker 1: with Genevieve so much the show. Yeah, let's break down

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Speaker 1: so let's get to the Rose ceremony. The rose ceremony

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Speaker 1: has lots of roses that we really don't know where

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Speaker 1: not like they're like glued. Then we have Casey giving

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you Jared will go on a RAM.

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Speaker 1: I came for you, And as much as I'm feeling

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00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: like I like you, I'm not feeling like I really

428
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: like you. And she ends up feeling so bad about

429
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: her lack of passion that she decides to leave and

430
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: doesn't even tell anybody. It's it's strange, like, what did

431
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: you do? You find that strange to leave without one

432
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: saying goodbye? And then to leave just because the one

433
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: person that you expected to have a great romance with

434
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: didn't end up in a great romance. That's not how

435
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: paradise is traditionally supposed to work. If you go with

436
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: your eyes set on someone, you're like, oh, I'm excited

437
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: to see them, excited to get to know them. If

438
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: there see if there's anything there. But then when you

439
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: actually but if but like if in real life that

440
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: doesn't really hit well, then you have other options. It

441
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: just seems like I guess Teddy is just not comfortable

442
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: with the format of paradise, which is totally respectable. Yeah,

443
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean I think I don't know. We'd

444
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: have to ask Teddy. I would assume she in her

445
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: mind thought this is gonna be controversial, This is going

446
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: to add some type of um drama, right, no matter

447
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: what if I go on another date with an their person, Um,

448
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't working out the way I thought

449
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: I would. I came, you know, really hoping this worked

450
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: in it and um, and then she decided to leave.

451
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: So she obviously, I think what we can there is

452
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: like she's choosing be uh not involved in the drama

453
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: over her ability to maybe find somebody in Paradise. And

454
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: I have to respect it. That's not an easy decision

455
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: to make. You're so early on in this process. It's

456
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: probably fun. It's still exciting if you're single and you're

457
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: ready to mingle. The Paradise is an amazing place for it.

458
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: And she's saying, hey, uh, I need to go. This

459
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: obviously is not going to go out by the way

460
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: I thought it would. And as interested as I am

461
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: maybe in somebody else in the beach, uh, it's not

462
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: worth it for the pain it that would cause. Now

463
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: saying goodbye it would have been nice. I respect it.

464
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: She she definitely didn't want people to uh try to

465
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: argue with her to day. They didn't. She didn't want

466
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: the convincing. She don't want the convincing. I respect it.

467
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: I am saddened by it because I feel like, you know,

468
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: before the season started, we said Eddie, he's gonna be

469
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: sought after, He's gonna be somebody on the beach that

470
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: people love, people are very interested in She was obviously

471
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: talked about a lot, and we didn't get this year enough.

472
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: During Clayton season we saw her, you know, get the

473
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: first impression Roseen, and she kind of disappeared. I was

474
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: wanting to know more about Teddy. We're just gonna get it,

475
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: and that's a lost for us as viewers. Um, but

476
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: a respectful decision. I feel like on Teddy's part, I'm

477
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: not I'm not upset by Yeah, she probably just doesn't

478
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: like being on the show. You know, some of us

479
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 1: love it, and then some of us are just like,

480
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: you know what, it's not for me. It's probably not

481
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: for today. And that's totally cool. All right, let's get

482
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: I enjoy it. I'd love to be in Paradise. I

483
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: just my life never worked out that way. You had

484
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: to go to Winter Games instead. Okay, so let's take

485
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: a quick break and then we're gonna get Genevievan as promised.

486
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast, and we have on

487
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: this podcast the absolute guests every current season of the show,

488
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: and we have a podcast today. Genevieve I've talked about

489
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: from meeting in Las Vegas. I really enjoyed hanging out

490
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: with UM. I didn't get to hang out with everybody

491
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: enough because I heart kept me busy, which I didn't

492
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: enjoy it as well. But Genevieve, welcome to the Almost

493
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: Famous Podcast. Thank you Benn and Nashley. Thank you for

494
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: having me well, thank you for being here. We want

495
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: to talk to you about Genevieve. You we talked in

496
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: Vegas and you were like, I don't know how Paradise

497
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be for me, and I said, I think

498
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: you're going to be a main character just from meeting you.

499
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: I think your storyline is going to be like a

500
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: Ruler coaster, and I believe everybody UM is going to

501
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: enjoy watching you on tone and so far, my first

502
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: question for you is are you having an okay time

503
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: watching yourself on television or is this as brutal as

504
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: you were nervous about. No, I think you've got me

505
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: at my worst right before it aired, so I was like, really,

506
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: just it is? It is okay. I do think it's

507
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: funny to watch myself because I'm just kind of like

508
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: all over the place and it's just funny, UM, But

509
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: I mean seeing myself be very emotional, it's not fun

510
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: to watch and like just seeing how I how my

511
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: reactions played out. Um, it's not great to watch back,

512
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: but I can learn from it. So people, you know,

513
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: gave me the same flak for like being so invested

514
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: in Jared's so fast and that's sort of what we

515
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: see with you and Justin And it's really easy to

516
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: be a viewer and to be like, oh my god,

517
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: why does she think that they're a real thing after

518
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: one day? For some reason, Bachelor in Paradise rules are

519
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: feelings are so much different than in the real world.

520
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: So did you I don't even I don't really know

521
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: what question I have from that statement, except for like

522
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: do you want to explain to people how it's different,

523
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: and like how intensely you're feeling after just one night

524
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: being on the beach. We are with the same people, Um,

525
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: you do everything with them. And if you're forming a

526
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: connection with someone, I mean that connection forms very quickly

527
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: when you are just constantly with them, getting to know them,

528
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: learning more about them, Um, seeing how they are in

529
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: a private setting, when you're on one on one, seeing

530
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: how they are around other people. So, um, one day

531
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: does not feel like a day in paradise. I have

532
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: to say it feels a lot longer, and um, I

533
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: would say emotions can form very quickly. Now. The only

534
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: thing I have to say as far as like a

535
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: criticism with how you possibly dealt with things, is that

536
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: I think that you have every right to feel as

537
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: sad as you were when Justin went on the date.

538
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: But looking back, do you feel like he did all

539
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: the right things and you know, in preparation of going

540
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: on that date, like he did come up to you

541
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: and explain that he was going to do it. Um,

542
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: he's just I don't think he messed up at all.

543
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: But I think that while that that being said, you

544
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: still have every right to your feelings. But do you

545
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: think you did get to upset about him deciding to

546
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: go on a day on a different with another girl

547
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: just like day two? Um? Yeah, yes, definitely. I definitely

548
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: was too upset because I spent all my time I

549
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: was a d percent invest in Justin. Um, so I

550
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: was very upset and I yeah, I definitely was in

551
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: my head. I was too upset and too emotional about it. No,

552
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: I think you could be upset for sure, but like

553
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: mad at him, I wasn't. I wasn't angry at him

554
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: until the conversation after when he got back, because get

555
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: me be silly things. But he didn't talk to me

556
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: for about an hour. He's talking to the guys. He

557
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: went to shower, and like, I just wanted an answer.

558
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: I was waiting all day for him, and so I

559
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: wanted him to come talk to me right away and

560
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: just give me an answer. Um. And then our conversation

561
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: also I was looking for I had a connection. I

562
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: feel stronger connection with her. I feel stronger connection with you,

563
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: and he didn't give me. He gave me absolutely thing.

564
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: He didn't really even tell me he was still interested,

565
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: like really interested in me, so well he said he

566
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: was during the day. I was not. I was so

567
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: sad during the day, so sad during the day. But

568
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: then after our conversation when he got back, I did

569
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: get agree because I felt he should have come talked

570
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: to me right away. And again I shouldn't agree with that,

571
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: he has the right to talk to his friends first

572
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: and everything, but I was upset all day waiting on that,

573
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: so I think I just wanted to talk to him.

574
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: But in the anger, he did say that he was confused.

575
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: So when he said that, like he I thought he

576
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: was alluding to being kind of torn between you guys,

577
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: and then you said, I either want him to be

578
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: totally in on me or totally in on her and

579
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: let me be Do you regret Okay, yeah, I was

580
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: gonna say that is one of the one of the

581
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: few things that I actually do like regret saying, because

582
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: that's not how it is, like you do. Sorry, sorry,

583
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: you do have to you have to explore, you have

584
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: to you have to get to know both people. I mean,

585
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: and I was saying you have to know after one day,

586
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: but you don't. You really don't have to know after

587
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: one day, and like, looking back, I'm seeing that. So

588
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: that was definitely exactly Jared loves you, you know that.

589
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: And he was talking yesterday on this podcast and he

590
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: was like, he knew you for twenty four hours and

591
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: he knew her for six hours. It's like, I think

592
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: that he has the right to be confused and unsure

593
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: which direction to go into at this point. But I

594
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: just want to also reiterate, when you're there and all

595
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: this is happening to you, you can't help how you respond.

596
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: Sometimes well, of course help how you respond, but like

597
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: you're just living your life and the camera happens to

598
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: be there and we all make some that's the thing.

599
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: You forget that there's yeah, yeah, you forget the cameras

600
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: are and that that matters. But like you're just for

601
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: raw emotion and it's all being filmed. Um. But no,

602
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: when I said he has to either choose one, I mean,

603
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: that was so silly. I think I just I don't

604
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: know what was going on in my head. I was

605
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: so upset. I really was just so upset. Um, and

606
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: I was I don't know, but I to regret saying that.

607
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: And I don't think that someone should be able to

608
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: come back from a date and just make a decision

609
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: right away. I don't take it that easy. Now, let

610
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: me ask you both, because the thing that I you know, Genevieve,

611
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't know you as well as I know Ashley.

612
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: Obviously I get the sense that you both. Um. Ashley

613
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: was mad at me as her work husband, UM, as

614
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: somebody who you know gets to talk to her a

615
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: couple of times a week. She would tell me, like,

616
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: very quickly, I have no concern about actually hiding it,

617
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: pressing it, pushing it down. If I hurt Ashley. She

618
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: would tell me, I have a feeling you're very similar right,

619
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: you are authentic and transparent, and even if your reactions

620
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: are not things that you are going to look and

621
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I handled that perfectly. I'm at least

622
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: gonna know where you're at, Like, I'm at least gonna

623
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: know what you both are feeling at that gift time.

624
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: And so to help this makes sense for anybody out

625
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: there listening in for myself who has never been to

626
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: the beach when this scenario happened. You're eating somebody, you're

627
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: into somebody, you're starting to, you know, have very strong

628
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: feelings for these people, and they go on another day

629
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 1: and then they come back. What's the closest real world

630
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: feeling that you could relate it to. I'm gonna throw

631
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: out some ideas, Right, do you feel like you're being

632
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: cheated on? Do you feel like you're being broken up with?

633
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: You feel like you're being um trade? Do you feel

634
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: like you've been strung along? What the closest kind of

635
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: real world relationiship things that you could I, you know,

636
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 1: own this in and say that's what I was feeling

637
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: at that. You feel like you're about to be broken

638
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: up with, I would say you're about Yeah, you're about

639
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: to be broken up if they found someone, and yeah, yeah,

640
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: it's that feeling of like, Okay, it's not completely over,

641
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: but I know the end is so near, and like

642
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: the anxieties is rushing through me. Feel like, for me,

643
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong. But if I'm sitting there

644
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: and somebody did this to me, I would start to compare,

645
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: and I would start to get really on myself. Um

646
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: just you know, wait, what why wasn't I good enough?

647
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: What do I what do I not have? What am

648
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: I missing? You know? What's wrong with me? YouTube that

649
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: same thing kind of go through your head. I mean

650
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was going through my head. Um. Yeah.

651
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: Like and also like the fact I had the first

652
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: I was the first one that had to kind of

653
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: be the one sitting back while the person I was

654
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: interested in it on a date. Um uh yeah, no,

655
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: it was definitely very hard to her is beautiful, she's amazing. Um.

656
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: I love her, and so it's of course it's hard

657
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: to not compare and be like, well, she's beautiful, she's funny,

658
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: she's awesome. I'm sure they're going to have a better connection.

659
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: And then you just start getting even more in your head. Um,

660
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: and yeah, it doesn't help at all. There's something about

661
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: Paradise which is different from the main show, which you

662
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: just feel the comparison way more strongly. Like on the

663
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: main show, of course, you can kind of like you'll

664
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: be like, oh, she has that, she has that, or

665
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: he likes her because of this. Well, there's something about

666
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: Paradise where you feel like more of a direct competition

667
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: with the person that your love interest is going on

668
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: a day with. Okay, well, we've gotta like jump ahead.

669
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: He ends up giving you the rose that day over Victoria.

670
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: Do you think that was because Victoria was showing interest

671
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: in Johnny or do you think that Justin really wanted

672
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: to give you guys another chance. I think that it

673
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: was because, um, Johnny was going to give his rose

674
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: to Victoria, and Victoria was into Johnny, and I think

675
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: he could sense it. M Okay. So then the next day,

676
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: you guys have a sit down a little bit before

677
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: the guys come in James and Aaron, and you're like,

678
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: Aaron's probably not into me. I've met him twice before.

679
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about him taking me out on a date.

680
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: And we let's address the drama that you guys had

681
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: as this circle with Jane and Aaron and you on

682
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: TV sitting next to you on a couch. En accused

683
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: you of having like slept with Aaron already, which is craziness.

684
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: Where did that rumor originate from? And how did she

685
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: have the balls to say that. I don't know how

686
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: she had the balls to say that, Um, but the

687
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: rumor I had met Aaron at a bar and I

688
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: had posted a picture, Um, I think on my story

689
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: and so I guess that's where she got that from.

690
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: But and then like come up with you see a

691
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: picture and imagine and then like from a picture context,

692
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: that's insane. Actually she does. We talked about it on

693
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: the show. So she does say like she doesn't know

694
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: where that came from. She just I mean, yeah, but um,

695
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: it definitely is not true. Um. We both have addressed that.

696
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: And then I did sit next to him after the

697
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: final rose and seating those seating is assigned. We did

698
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: not pick those ourselves, um, And that was it. So

699
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: I met him twice, very platonic, and there's never anything.

700
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: And I did say, like it's not that there couldn't

701
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: be anything. I do think he's handsome and he's nice,

702
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: but there just wasn't there yet at least, so okay,

703
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: So when Aaron does ask you out, how did you

704
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: feel about broaching this with Justin? Did you end up

705
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: going over to Justin and talking to him and being like, hey, like,

706
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: how do you feel about me going out with Aaron?

707
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: Or did you feel like you didn't have to do

708
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: it at that point? Oh, I did talk to I

709
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: of course talked to Justin out it. Um, that's the

710
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: first Like, right after I talked to Aaron, I talked

711
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: to Justin. Um, I don't think that that him going

712
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: on a date would excuse but like would make it

713
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: okay for me just not have a conversation with him. Um,

714
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: I asked him, it'll be okay, he said, I mean,

715
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: he said, like, yeah, go, I personally didn't think I

716
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: was going on a date. I know when we didn't

717
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: see this right when Aaron No, yep, when Aaron walked down,

718
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: I said to Justin, we saw this, I said, I promised,

719
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,959
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be me. But when he sorry,

720
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: but we didn't see the second conversation. Okay, yeah, sorry,

721
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: so we didn't see this conversation. But of course I

722
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: talked to him. I mean like I would have never

723
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: just left and said I'll probably be thinking about you.

724
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have. I absolutely had a conversation with him

725
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: and asked him how he would feel. He said he

726
00:41:51,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: would suck obviously, but go so ye her least is messy. Uh.

727
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's I want to pause here. And I

728
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: always love listening to actually talking people about paradise because

729
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: he just has a great perspective on and work for it.

730
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: But um, do you going in and just to pause

731
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: obviously here? Do you feel like it could be this messy?

732
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: Do you realize how hard it was going to be

733
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: to make the right decisions and to um find love

734
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: interests and to pursue people? Well, why other people are

735
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: coming to the beat? Or did this become a lot

736
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: more than you expected very quickly? You said it perfectly.

737
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: It was a lot more than I expected very quickly.

738
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: I went there. I just had such high hopes I

739
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: was going to leave engaged, honestly, um, and I went

740
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: through such a positive mind. Um. And then once you

741
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: spend all your time with someone, it affects It really

742
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: does affect you when they get taken away to go

743
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: on a date with someone else for a whole day imparatives,

744
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: The whole day is a lot of time. Yeah, so

745
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: it it's a lot more than I expected. I thought

746
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: I would be able to kind of go through handle

747
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: my emotions better. I thought I would be able to

748
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: to control them much better. But I saw I really wasn't.

749
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: I guess I just acted how I was feeling in

750
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: the moment, and I know it was all genuine how

751
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: I was acting. Um, but it doesn't excuse it. But yeah,

752
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: it definitely it's harder than I imagined or than it

753
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 1: even looks. I always say it's like emotional boot camp.

754
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: There people people you know. Of course, we sit down

755
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: on the on the couch and we criticize and we

756
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: go how do they feel like this? So fast? We

757
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: make fun of everyone, you know, as a as a viewer,

758
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: Like I know how easy it is to do that,

759
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: and it's funny. Sometimes I'll watch the show with my

760
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: mom and she'll be like criticizing and critiquing people in

761
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: situations that, um, whether I know the contestants or not,

762
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 1: and I get so defensive, like Mom, like I was here,

763
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: Like you can't say that, Like I know exactly what's

764
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: actually going on here, and um, I think that as

765
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: hard as it is, you do have to like give

766
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: the cast even more grace when they're in Paradise because

767
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: it's a situation that you can't even fathom. Like I

768
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: almost feel like the viewer can fathom a little bit

769
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: would it would be like to be on the Bachelor.

770
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 1: It's definitely an experience that translates a little bit more

771
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: through TV. Paradise is so much more emotional than anything

772
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: I could ever imagine going through. When I went there,

773
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: I remember saying to the producers, you guys are gonna

774
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: have to like force me to like someone. I'm not

775
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: gonna like someone. And it's like, just it's hilarious. It's

776
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: it's funny how much you feel there, And it was

777
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: fun being there with you guys because we got to

778
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: see you guys go through it all that we went

779
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: through and then not have to do it right because

780
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: you yeah, you guys are you're happy. Yeah, yeah, but

781
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: I know all the turmoil you guys are going through,

782
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: And I just kind of want everybody out there watching

783
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: to be like, it's easy to judge, but if you

784
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: were in this situation, you'd be just as ridiculous as

785
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: everyone there. It's a long. It's their long days and

786
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: nights for long, long hard. Yeah, it's hard to yeah,

787
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: be all there, I guess. Yeah. So you end up

788
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: going on the day with Aaron and it goes really well.

789
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: From of yours point of view, I see more chemistry

790
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: that you have with him than Justin. Justin at this

791
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: point just seems like I feel like that relationship you

792
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: got you guys kind of gotta cut off. There's just

793
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: like a lot of hostility there, law of defensiveness. When

794
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: you were on that date with Aaron, were you thinking,

795
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: did you have a clear cut feeling on who you're

796
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: choosing or was there still like a lingering I like

797
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: Justin back at home feeling. No. See, that's the thing.

798
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: So I before going on the date, I thought I

799
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: was going to go on the date and just want

800
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 1: to go back to Justin. I thought I was gonna

801
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: have a fun time, but not be like romantically interested

802
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: in Erin. Then after the date, I was like so

803
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: surprised at how well it went, and I just saw

804
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: a side of him, like I just obviously I don't

805
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: know him, um, and I just saw the side of

806
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: him and I actually my decision was Eron, like on

807
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: my way back. My decision was Erin and um, you

808
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: don't see it yet, but yeah, um, I know that

809
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: Justin and I are very not good together obviously, and

810
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: I think he knows that too. I do think, um,

811
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: he gave me a rose. I don't know, to see

812
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: if there was potential, and of course both of us

813
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: cared about each other and all that, but um, after

814
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: my date with Aaron, it made it clear to me

815
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: that Aaron was what I wanted. Did you feel guilt

816
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: about that, knowing that he had given your rose, that

817
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: I've given you a rose the night before and you're

818
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: over it or you're just like that's the day of

819
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: the game. No, I did. I did feel bad, But

820
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: at the same time, I do know Justin wanted to

821
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: give his rose to Victoria. So I don't think if

822
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: things went the way they did with Victoria and Johnny,

823
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: I think I just said someone's name on. I don't

824
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: think if things went as well as they did with

825
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: Victorian Johnny, Justin um would have given me a rose.

826
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: So um, I do. Of course, it sucks to have

827
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: someone keep you around and then give like being more

828
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: interested in someone else, But at that point I was

829
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: just following my heart, and um, that's just all I

830
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: could do. And I mean, you don't want to be

831
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: a consolation prize, like that's not are you gonna get

832
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: engage exactly? Somebody's second choice, right, And then we have

833
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: that we had the roses the second week, so then

834
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: after rose ceremony, we wake up and then it's kind

835
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: of all we were like almost pretending it is back

836
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: to normally, even though I don't know if we could

837
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: have come back from that. Yeah, a great timing, though, Huh,

838
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: how crazy is it that Aaron and James show up

839
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: to the beach to day after your dramatic rose ceremony

840
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: and dramatic day. I know that back day I thought

841
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: I was going I mean I truly thought I was

842
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: going home. Um, and then yet the following day I

843
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: found someone I was very interested in. So to talk

844
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: about a couple of relationships that don't involve you, what

845
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: do you think about Teddy leaving without saying goodbye to

846
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: you guys? Um, I it's crazy because I tried to

847
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: do like I honestly tried to do the same thing

848
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: I tried to. I don't think I would have gone

849
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: through it, but I was like, I want out and

850
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: I can't even I can't bring myself to go say

851
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: goodbye because you know you're going to be convinced to

852
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: say yeah so um and like you know it'll hurt.

853
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: So I mean it is. I think it would have

854
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: been nice for her to just go and just say

855
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: a goodbye, just say like and not even talk about anything,

856
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: just say goodbye. Um. She didn't had to explain herself

857
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: because that's hard, and she doesn't have to explain herself

858
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: either way, but um, it's that that's tough. I think

859
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: I think a goodbye would have been nice. But I

860
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: do understand that like she was just feeling all the

861
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: emotions and she just wanted out. What do you feel

862
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: about her just not giving anybody a chance and it

863
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: being like Andrew or Bust. I don't think, Yeah, I

864
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: think I think that has to do more of it.

865
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: She didn't like the setting and like she was in

866
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: because I don't think you would just leave if it

867
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: didn't work out with with one person. I do feel

868
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: like it was because she just it was a lot

869
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: to deal with, like all of us, like we know,

870
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: and she just didn't want to deal with it. And

871
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: if it didn't work with Andrews she just didn't want

872
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: to continue and lead anyone on if she couldn't really

873
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: handle it. Yeah, it makes sense. Well, Genevieve, we're gonna

874
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: let you go here. Um you We've got some great

875
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: time with you, but we we really I want to

876
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: see you shine and thrive again. You were so much

877
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: fun at by Her Music Festival and we appreciate that

878
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: you made. You made that trip really enjoyable. That was

879
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 1: the fun trip. So thank you. Oh I just thought

880
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: of a question, well, wrapping up, I thought of a question,

881
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: how did you and Cheney get over that hump? Okay,

882
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: we had a conversation on the couch, um, and she

883
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: apologized to me. She said, she is honestly various. We

884
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: were both carrying up like this was a genuine, honest

885
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: like I truly felt it was a genuine apology from

886
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: and that's all I wanted. Um. And so she apologized

887
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: for kind of making that up. She said she wasn't

888
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: going to let me win on Clayton's season, so that's

889
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: why she pulled the actress thing. And then, um, she

890
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: just made something up on the couch because Darren thing. Yeah,

891
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: oh no, she fully she fully admitted it. And I

892
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: know I know you said that earlier, but it's funny

893
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: to hear her being like, I just pulled it out

894
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: of my ass. Yeah, I was like, Shoday, what do

895
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: we see that in a your episode? Or is that

896
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: gone now? I don't know if they're going to show it.

897
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that was the day I was in

898
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 1: the yellow bathing suits. So that was like the second

899
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: day we had a good thing for us to see.

900
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: I'm not and I apologized for because I said, at

901
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: the woman tell all, I said, it looked like I

902
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: had a diaper because of like something under her dress.

903
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: I apologized, like she told me that upsettera and I

904
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: truly apologized for it. And so we just got through

905
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: everything that, like all of our issues, and and then

906
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: we we hugged and we're like crying, why we don't

907
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: watch this stuff? This is this stuff I want to

908
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: see redemption, like come on now to I feel bad

909
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: because she is not like she has been great, and

910
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: it's not showing that she's really is different at this

911
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: time around. So it's implied, which is weird. It's implied

912
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: because everybody's begetting along with her. But yeah, there's definitely

913
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: a gap in that storyline. Oh, we're getting word that

914
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: says we show this conversation at it so it is

915
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: to come, it is to come. Okay, excited about a team. Hey,

916
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: it's it's a great it's a great story. Genevieve, shine shines.

917
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: Well again, we wish you the best. You're awesome. People

918
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: need to know Naviv Hey, Jena and Nevive, they shine

919
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: during this conversation. Genevieve, you are the best. We wish

920
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: you the best. Um, you're great only to know it,

921
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: and you're great television, And I mean that like I'm

922
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: you're on our screen. You keep things fun. So hey,

923
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, Thank you, Thank you so much.

924
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: Fight well everybody. This is a great episode. The conversation

925
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: with Genevieve, I thought was really fun for me to

926
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: listen to and also be a part of. It brings

927
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: to light a lot of the things happening in Paradise. Ashley.

928
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 1: I'm happy that I got to speak with you today

929
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: about this episode because Paradise continues. I think, I'll say

930
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: it continues to be type of television I like watching

931
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: and I enjoy it, and I hope it continues throughout

932
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I am too. But until

933
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Speaker 1: Next time I've been Ashley and I've Been Been. Follow

934
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on IHR Radio,

935
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Speaker 1: or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.