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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this morning Combat. Oh Jesus, Oh are you being

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Speaker 2: weird already?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Yeah? Hey, how are you? We're back at it

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Speaker 3: with an absolute bang Monday the Deuce of April twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four, a tradition like no other morning Combat on

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Speaker 3: your Monday morning. The King of CT, Brian Campbell coming

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Speaker 3: at you across from me, Salt and Pepper to the

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Speaker 3: to the ninth degree over there living large from the DC.

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Speaker 3: It's Loop Thomas.

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Speaker 2: What's up, buddy?

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Speaker 3: We got it. I'm great and it's great to see you.

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Speaker 3: It's great to be here Manhattan, Metal Lark Studio. Shout

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Speaker 3: out to DraftKings, John Skippers here. Shout out to John

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Speaker 3: Skipper out outside just outside this studio, and shout out

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Speaker 3: to us doing what we love. Thank you to our

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Speaker 3: great audience and Luke, we are coming off and absolutely

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Speaker 3: break through. Incredible Garcia Haney pay per View over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: We've got Mike Perry in the building on this show

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Speaker 3: today twelve fifteen, Eastern time to get you fired up

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Speaker 3: for Saturday's Knucklemania pay per view. And of course I've

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Speaker 3: got a you know, iconic batch of shit coming your way.

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Speaker 3: But Luke Thomas, how you doing? Man?

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Speaker 2: Tired, very tired. My family was gone, they were I

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Speaker 3: So you had nine days at home as a bachelor,

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Speaker 3: taking care of the animals, walking around pantiless and acting

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Speaker 3: By just sharecropping your entire house in the walls, I.

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Speaker 2: Would say, not sharecropping, I would say crop, dust track,

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Speaker 2: just the same. I tell you back to back UFC

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I came from vacation to the Baddest Tour starring Nakedez

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Speaker 3: and Mouth. But also it's been a wild week, just

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Speaker 2: But this was kind of bad, the battest It was interesting.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into a little bit of that as the show.

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me, okay, I can hear you just fine,

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Speaker 3: But don't forget what obviously all things Handy Garcia coming

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Speaker 3: your way will have Mike Perry will get my reaction

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Speaker 3: to yet another Dana White media takedown video and big

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Speaker 3: three hundred victory lap that that we got coming our way,

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Speaker 3: which is interesting.

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Speaker 2: Are amazed that once again I didn't make the cut.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, Luke, they're either purposely jabbing

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Speaker 3: you or they just don't give a damn.

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Speaker 2: It's either they really can't stand me, or they really

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Speaker 3: Like who has more? Who's more aware of your coverage?

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 3: Your siblings are Dana White's. It's a fair question, right.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be the The answer should not be Dana White.

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Speaker 3: But it's one long island, Luke on the ones and

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Speaker 3: twos and of course Morning Combat Dot store. You can

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Speaker 3: go right now. RJ Duncle Bottom will be there. You

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Speaker 3: can pick up that fantastic What about, Luke? If we

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Speaker 3: get a MK hockey jersey, would we sell it?

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Speaker 2: I would wear the shit out of an MK hockey

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Speaker 2: It's also playoff season, it is Are you a Rangers guy?

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Speaker 3: I was a Whaler's guy that I became a Bruins guy,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Hey, let's get into the damn show

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Speaker 3: here topic number one to start things off on this

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Speaker 3: big Monday morning and NYC MK on the DK and

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Speaker 3: all that meet me on the D thank you. All right,

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Speaker 3: here we go. Ryan Garcia, of course, nearly broke the

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Speaker 3: Garcia miss wait, potentially purposefully. We'll get into all of that.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, Ryan Garcia got

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Speaker 3: So Luke putting aside if you can, because we're gonna

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Speaker 3: why didn't we see this coming on Saturday, that he

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Speaker 2: Very quickly, let me just make one point if I may,

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Speaker 3: Which caused some wrinkling and boxing because in similar situations

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Speaker 3: basically just said no, Haney's still the champion.

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Speaker 2: I got wrong, Because your question was why didn't so

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Speaker 2: many of us see it? It wasn't just media. Now.

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Speaker 2: I was loud and arrogant and dismissive.

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Speaker 3: So you had a reason too, spoiler alert, you had

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Speaker 2: foolish to say someone that disciplined, that hard working, with

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Speaker 2: the future. But I can just say personally, I did

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Speaker 3: Yes, and shocking manner.

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Speaker 2: And so therefore I didn't understand both guys, which meant

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Speaker 2: It is that I didn't understand what Ryan Garcia was

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Speaker 3: But I'm not going to discount the Lomachenko win by.

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Speaker 2: pop that Ryan Garcia had is much better than what

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Speaker 3: Honestly, difference between them everything so.

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Speaker 2: That Devin Haney could not stand up to the firepower

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Speaker 2: You don't even have to go to the Leonari's fight,

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Speaker 2: how does Devin Handy get caught standing at it range

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Speaker 2: and just gets his head pop back. It's partly because

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Speaker 2: for anything else you want to say, and I want

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Speaker 2: many different elements here. That's my Devin Haney takeaway. My

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Speaker 2: big takeaway from Ryan Garcia was I didn't like that

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Speaker 2: he wasn't forced to lose weight, but at the same time,

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Speaker 2: have boosted his performance. There are still some questions about

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Speaker 2: this performance, the shoulder rolling, the fighting and spurs.

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Speaker 3: Now, it was also a close fight that people don't

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Speaker 3: want to recognize that it was a close fight in

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Speaker 3: terms of scoring scoring I act.

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Speaker 2: But Ryan Garcia and Derek James had a very good

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Speaker 2: game plan. Ryan's left hook is one of the most

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Speaker 2: just the left hook that won him this. They made adjustments.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about him throughout this fight. Ryan Garcia was

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Speaker 2: flatly better than Devin Haney. Maybe he was bigger, maybe

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Speaker 2: he was I don't even know if he was sober

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Speaker 2: for the fight right, But he was better than Devin Haney,

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Speaker 2: not just because he got the knockdowns, but because he

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Speaker 2: Everyone wants to make it about the left hook. He

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Speaker 2: played a monster role. That is not the only reason

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Speaker 3: Because Ryan's always had that left hook, and he had

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Speaker 3: the big mistakes that would lead to him like, why

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Speaker 3: But you know what was really going on behind the scenes,

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Speaker 3: rewatched this fight twice. Saw I got it what forty

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Speaker 2: For forty six bits. You already watched it once the

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Speaker 3: What, no one told me to be math. I really

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Speaker 3: Now he's still limited one. He still a limited one

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Speaker 3: But Ryan doesn't get there if he doesn't mature in

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Speaker 3: he got that done.

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Speaker 2: But I think there were some people who anticipated a

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Speaker 3: So I picked one punch knockout for him.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is when people like me, I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people pretend and thing that they actually

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Speaker 3: You know, sure mistakes, jumping on that Haney sucked and

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Speaker 3: But Luke, when we were handicapping this and we tried

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Speaker 3: as great as Hany is at distance control, at defense,

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Speaker 3: We thought it would be inflated confidence. We thought it'd be

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Speaker 3: and that is with that rapid hook check left hook,

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Speaker 3: but he has to throw it as Hani is throwing,

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Speaker 3: Haney would leave with the jab, come over with the right.

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Speaker 3: That's when you saw Ryan get in there with that

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Speaker 3: to it was mind boggling that he couldn't game planned

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Speaker 3: But Ryan's got one punch, right, he does.

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Speaker 2: I don't agree with that. Actually, No, after.

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Speaker 3: Ryan is going downhill, he's dangerous as hell when he's

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Speaker 3: that's the only time his right hand, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: is violent and valuable. Because I disagree and says Pinata,

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Speaker 2: I really don't agree with this at all. To break

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Speaker 2: talk about this too. Devin Haney could not tolerate the

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Speaker 3: Cutting off the ring, and I thought, oh, this is

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Speaker 2: And one of the key battles that happened was Haney

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Speaker 2: second half. But what he began to do is you'll

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Speaker 2: So Garcia, rather than going jab hook, he would jab

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Speaker 2: the second half was excellent. What I'm trying to point

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Speaker 2: his trademark weapon, someone showing a defense to it, and

433
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 2: then him building a strategy yes to counter that defense.

434
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 2: This happened multiple times to very good effect, and in fact,

435
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,479
Speaker 2: Hani had to go away from that from the ducking

436
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 2: because that stopped working. So my point I'm trying to

437
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 2: make is again, what weapons does Ryan have? We may

438
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 2: have to take a bit of a wait and see

439
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 2: approach here. It looks like under Derek James, they're not

440
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: getting rid of what works, They're staying with what works.

441
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 2: But it looks to me like they're building around it.

442
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 2: They are in fortified ways and that made a huge difference.

443
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 3: And I saw a willingness to use the right hand

444
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,679
Speaker 3: that hasn't been there in recent fights, and it's not

445
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 3: shocking by the way Oscar de la Hoya and Miguel

446
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,479
Speaker 3: Coto natural South pause that fought in an orthodox stands.

447
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 3: It took them a while for the right hand to

448
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 3: become a weapon. I still don't think Ryan's is there,

449
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 3: but I see the development and the maturity under excuse me,

450
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 3: Derek James, that's now starting to bring it out. But

451
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 3: my point is in reality, for somebody as great defensively

452
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 3: with distance control in the mind that he Andy has

453
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,159
Speaker 3: at twenty five, he never should have got hit that

454
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 3: many times. Now it could be that he has Ryan

455
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,479
Speaker 3: as his number. And by the way, like remember when

456
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: Arislndy Laura was on top and now Fradle Angulo of

457
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 3: all people knocked him down twice and got him into

458
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 3: this big war. It happened. Sometimes people just have the

459
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 3: weird cadence, the off you know, that can throw you

460
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 3: different kind of shots you don't see coming to my

461
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 3: Donna obviously was perfect and just being awkward in that regard.

462
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 3: But in this case there was one punch that was

463
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 3: gonna hurt Hany. It's just that I think that Ryan

464
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 3: it was way faster than Haney anticipated here, and I

465
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 3: think Ryan has sharpened his skills under Derek James, so

466
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 3: where that left hand was consistently touching him. And here's

467
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 3: ultimately the difference why I think Haney fell apart in

468
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 3: the second half of this fight where he hadn't previously.

469
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 3: We were all we all knew that Ryan would be

470
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 3: a potential handful in the first couple rounds, especially if

471
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 3: he was going to fight extra rabbit, which he didn't

472
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 3: by the way, he was poison control.

473
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: He did fight confidently.

474
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And like I said when heard him around one,

475
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: he was I just want to compliment.

476
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: I just want to add on to it. When you

477
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: had said that he had fought in a more mature way,

478
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 2: and then you define what that means. I do agree

479
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: with that. I would also add to that. I thought

480
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: this would lead to recklessness. So something else that I

481
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: misjudged exactly. I knew he'd be confident. I didn't realize

482
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: the confident confidence, excuse me, would actually elevate his game

483
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: against the guy who could not hurt Ryan and keep

484
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: him off of him. And so actually it actually emboldened

485
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: and made Ryan better rather than making him reckless and

486
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 2: therefore hit a ball.

487
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: I fully agreed, didn't see what the end of the day,

488
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 3: Hani should have been in our thought process good enough. Okay,

489
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: maybe he gets dropped once, maybe he gets hit in

490
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 3: the first round like he did with that left hook.

491
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: But to figure it out and to how you laid

492
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 3: out your right the round two through five, Hainy did

493
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: figure it out. He ducked under that left hook, got inside.

494
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 3: But Luke, he would get inside to land one shot

495
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: and then hold and ultimately I think this is where

496
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: he lost the fight. Let me explain it. What made

497
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 3: andre Ward great, the undefeated, retired Hall of Famer, was

498
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: that even though we looked at him similar to Haney

499
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: and said, okay, doesn't have a big time power, not

500
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 3: a knockout guy. Obviously Olympic gold medalist, he's so skilled.

501
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 3: But Luke the difference between andre Ward and his competitors

502
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 3: in his biggest fights Michel Kestler to kick off the

503
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 3: Super six tournament, Carl Frotch in the finale of that tournament,

504
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 3: Colev in Ward's final fight. You know what the difference was, Luke.

505
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: His ability to act like the bigger man and fight

506
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: better on the inside, backed up these bigger sluggers, and

507
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 3: he found that they were vulnerable and there where he

508
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: wasn't Luke. Outside of the body work that Haney did

509
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 3: when Ryan was turning his back to him completely, which

510
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: we will get to, it was a very dangerous strategy

511
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: from Ryan. Outside of that. Do you know what I

512
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: didn't see all fight? I didn't see Devin Haney going

513
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: to the body really outside of a couple of distant

514
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: shots Floyd Mayweather style to keep that distance, I didn't

515
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 3: see him doing that. Inability to fight on the inside,

516
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: which is what took andre Ward from a potentially very

517
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 3: good fighter to a Hall of Famer, is something I

518
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 3: think a lesson that he can only learn in the ring.

519
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: So even though at twenty five and even at twenty three,

520
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: I mean, Devin Haney was arguably the fighter of the

521
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: year last year. Along with the new way they were

522
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 3: in the race, tight neck and neck, he always looked

523
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: so much more mature than he should have been. He

524
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 3: almost fell apart against Lomachenko late, but he put it

525
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: together in that final round and held tight and won

526
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: a disputed decision. This was the lesson that as great

527
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: as you are, turning pro at seventeen in Mexico, and

528
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: he's always mentally been ahead, one step ahead I think

529
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: this was the true lesson that he had to learn

530
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: in the ring, and it was a perfect storm that

531
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 3: Ryan purposely came in overweight, had the physical advantage, and

532
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 3: got to Haney early, and it just started to crumble.

533
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: I'm still shocked that Haney fell apart in the second half.

534
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: I'm also shocked that he showed enough heart to make

535
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 3: it to the finish line.

536
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: I mean, another portion of this fight, like first of all, Like,

537
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many elements to the story, but

538
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: one of them has to be Harvey Dock, the referee.

539
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: I mean, here's why this is We'll talk more about

540
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: this in just a minute, but here's why this is

541
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: such a bad and devastating loss. Is that not just

542
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: did Haney get knocked down three times and then quite

543
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: literally badly beaten. His face looked a mess. There were

544
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: some concerns about whether he had a broken jaw. He

545
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: said on Twitter he didn't, but nevertheless he looked like

546
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 2: in rough shape when it was over. On top of that,

547
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 2: BC he had to hold on and wrestle his way

548
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 2: just to survive some of those rounds, Like you look

549
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 2: around seven and ten. I believe when he gets rattled

550
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: there's still two plus minutes left in each of those rounds,

551
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: and there was clinching throughout the fight, But in those

552
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: desperate moments hanging on it looked like desperation.

553
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: It was desperation, and it was exactly desperation. He didn't

554
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: go for it in the final minute round twelve, with

555
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 3: the fight on the line.

556
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: In some ways, he was actually lucky to make it

557
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: to the final bell. I wasn't sure he was going

558
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: to be able to at certain points what really really

559
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: set him back? But getting back to to Ryan Garcia

560
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: here and all the things you've brought up in like

561
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: and what makes him so successful in this regard, I

562
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: do want to say this do I think people were

563
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: asking how much does the three point two extra pounds matter?

564
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: And I realized that what's happening right now is that

565
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: because Ry improved, people like me.

566
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: Wrong and prove the world wrong, me wrong.

567
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: He is kind of surfing all this glory and people

568
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: when you bring up the fact that he didn't make

569
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 2: weight and didn't really try all that hard, they're saying, oh,

570
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 2: you're just being a hater, You're getting in the way.

571
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: I'll meet them halfway on this. I don't think it's

572
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: wrong to bring up the fact that he'd not only

573
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 2: missed three point two, the real sacrifice that he gets

574
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: to avoid was just that was the rain from having

575
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: to make those last few pounds and what that would

576
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 2: have potentially done to him.

577
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: Let me ask you on the topic, Hanny just moved

578
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 3: up from one forty this is second I'm sorry, from

579
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: one thirty five. This is a second fight at one forty.

580
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: Didn't he look the last couple of days press conference

581
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 3: way in like this was an extremely hard gaunt. So

582
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: Ryan not putting himself through that after doing that, I

583
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: do think that plays a role. That played I'm saying

584
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: it was a perfect form of everything.

585
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: However, I will say this when people talk about like

586
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: all of Ryan's physical advantages, I'm not suggesting that him

587
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 2: not making weight didn't play a role. It did. What

588
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: I'm also suggesting is he was seen in New York

589
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: clubs drinking this week. He later said at the postfight

590
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: press conference he drank every week. Part of the bitter

591
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: pill for team Haney to swallow here is that you

592
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: can say that Ryan had some physical advantages due to

593
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: the weight miss and I won't fight you. On the

594
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: other hand, what you cannot say is that you got

595
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: a fully prepared, fully in shape Ryan Garcia. Ryan also

596
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: said to Chris Mannis in his post fight inner that

597
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: he had trouble going twelve rounds. You can just watch

598
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: the tape. He's fighting in spurts. So for all to

599
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: talk about Hani receiving physical advantage, excuse me for all

600
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: to talk about Ryan Garcia receiving physical advantages for not

601
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: making weight, I'm open to that. At the same time,

602
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: you also have to reconcile with the fact that you

603
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: got a guy in there who was drinking his way

604
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: through preparation that cut down what you had to face.

605
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: At the same time, I'm not saying it's a Washbcie.

606
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is for as bad of a loss

607
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: as it is for Devin Haney, and for as much

608
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: as you might want to couch it in, well, Ryan

609
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: was bigger, Ryan was a drunk, and he still looked

610
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: this much better. That is a ton He's thing.

611
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: He stuck to the strengths, stuck to that left hook,

612
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: never crumbled like we thought he would. You got to

613
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: tip your hat to Ryan, But I want to read

614
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: rate one thing For anyone to say, oh you guys

615
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: are stupid. How did you not see this coming? We

616
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: took an educated snapshot of the facts, but it wasn't

617
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: like we never thought Ryan could do this right. That's

618
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: why it was tough to see him get criticized by

619
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: his own promoter for not getting off the canvas against

620
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: Tank when he might have been able to get back

621
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: up and fight. It wasn't great seeing him almost implode

622
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: a few times outside the ring and inside the ring.

623
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: But Luke, if you can take what he has incredible

624
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: natural gifts again, a very good amateur background, and the

625
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: foundation to be great, and you can mix it with

626
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 3: a world class trainer that he's going to listen to,

627
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: and the hunger that seems to be inside of Ryan

628
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: to get into great shape and to at least like Luke,

629
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: he showed a survival spirit in there. I'm not going

630
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: to say, you know, he didn't show a warrior spirit

631
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: against Tank. Came in with a preexisting rib injury. We

632
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: didn't get to really see him in his element. But like,

633
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: if it all comes together for him, if he's going

634
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: to buy in, if he can iron out the craziness

635
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: in his personal life and he can actually continue to

636
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: evolve like this this quickly. He really could be something

637
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: more than just an attraction. So that's why it's like

638
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: part of you is obviously surprised, but it's also like, yes,

639
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: finally he's finally putting it together to a certain degree.

640
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: I don't think that's wrong.

641
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: I have complicated feelings about that too, BC, because on

642
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: the one hand, he performed quite ably. I mean, this

643
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 2: was in many ways Ryan Garcia's best performance. It's certainly

644
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: his best win question. But at the same time, here's

645
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: the kind of thing I want people to understand that

646
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: I think is true upon subsequent viewing of this, now

647
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: that we have wrapped our minds around and processed what happened.

648
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: On the one hand, the offensive ability he showed I

649
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: didn't see, and the offensive iterations he was able to make,

650
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: as I previously highlighted to really impressive stuff. On the

651
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: other hand, not being able to fight a full twelve

652
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: without having to, by his own admission, take time off

653
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: by his own admission, not having the cardiovascular conditioning, by

654
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: his own admission, drinking through the course of the week.

655
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is we're calling it his

656
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: best performance if it is, and I'm happy to say

657
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: that it is because of the outcome. What I also

658
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: think folks should be honest and cognizant about is a

659
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: lot of folks want to compare Ryan Garcia to John Jones. Right, Okay,

660
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: John Jones never missed weight Oky never.

661
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: But I want to tell you Ryan did this on purpose.

662
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: We got to get to this point. Ryan did this

663
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: on purpo.

664
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get no.

665
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: No, I just mean you need to come to this

666
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: point in your head. Let's not act like he fumbled

667
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: into this. He strategically did.

668
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: Yes, fine, he I he pulled. I won't argue. I

669
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: won't argue that. I won't argue that. All I'm trying

670
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: to point out to you is I want to call

671
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: it the best performance based on a few factors plus

672
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: the outcome, without looking the other way. On, Hey, did

673
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: this guy really maximize his training.

674
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: By his on admission?

675
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: He didn't know, and so for that reason you still

676
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: for that reason, I think we could still be critical

677
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: while also acknowledging our faults about what we missed.

678
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: As we transition from the physical of what happened in

679
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: the ring to some of the narrative and the mental playoff.

680
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: I did, though, want to talk quickly about the scoring

681
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 3: majority of decision. One judge scored it one twelve, one twelve,

682
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: and it was one fifteen to.

683
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 5: Four.

684
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: I'm on board way and one fifteen one. Luke, how

685
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: did you score it on a rounds level, on a

686
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: score level, and what were your thoughts on this?

687
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: Sho Okay, So I lost track. I was watching in

688
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: real time and I lost track once we got to

689
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: the deep and once he dropped him twice in rounds

690
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: three times total, but then back to back in rounds

691
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: ten and eleven. I had lost track. Also again getting

692
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: back to Harvey Dock, we haven't had a conversation about it.

693
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: Taking the point at night.

694
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: Taking the Harvey Dock is usually pretty good. By the way,

695
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: Harvey Dock was the referee in Haney versus one the Jenko.

696
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: He was a conservative referee and he's one of the

697
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: best in the world.

698
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: He was the referee in Haniy versus Limachenko. You don't

699
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: hear anybody complaining about that for a very good reason.

700
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: But he took the point from Ryan when Ryan was

701
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: punching on the clinch and he was but it's like, dude,

702
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: HAINI was hanging on to him for dear life, what

703
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: do you want Ryan to do?

704
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: So ro that was a foul, but you can't offer that,

705
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: in my opinion, and a fight that big without a

706
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: warning or without like you said, acknowledging the fact that

707
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: Haney was on a run of holding that was getting it.

708
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Ryan should have punched him the way

709
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: he did. What I am saying is under the circumstances,

710
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: I kind of get it, and a stern warning would

711
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: have been better because he was Hani hanging all over him.

712
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: I forgot your initial question. I was trying to respond to.

713
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: Whether you like which end of the score, and do

714
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: you think, oh, the score is more accurate?

715
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: So I thought one fifteen, one oh nine, where Ryan

716
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: wins eight rounds is egregious, that's pious. I don't think

717
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: he won eight rounds now. To be clear, the rounds

718
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: that Ryan won were like definitive and that's what people say,

719
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: and the rounds that hany one were you know, fine

720
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: to marginal.

721
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: So like in real time, I scored it listen to average.

722
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, I'm hardly in a position to talk

723
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: based on how arrogantly I got it wrong. At the

724
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: same time, and I'm not licensed as a judge either.

725
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: You talk to people who have actually done it or

726
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: are licensed through it and their their major takeaway is

727
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: the average boxing fan some hardcore is notwithstanding, and media

728
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: two don't really know how to properly judge hundred boxing fights.

729
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: They don't understand this. Guys. They don't put in a

730
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: score and add it up at the end in the

731
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: sense of oh, I'll change this one and match that

732
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: one around finishes, they put their score, they turn it in.

733
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: It's locked for the rest of the fight. They cannot

734
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: go back and change it. That's what it.

735
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: You know that this fight achieved its promise of bringing

736
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: in a casual audience and an MMA audience. For the

737
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: mentions of how many people tell me that I don't

738
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: know shit about boxing, like their prime Roger Mayweather. Look,

739
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: I scored it one twelve, one twelve. Mathematically, that's even

740
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: that's a draw. Do I think Hani won the fight? No,

741
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: But as Luke just says, it's like we have to

742
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: do this every big fight when people are screaming robbery

743
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 3: or you don't know shit about boxing.

744
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: I had it six six rounds, but then because of

745
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: the knockdown.

746
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: Yes, so he won my score indicates that I had

747
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: at seven five hany in real time, But to be fair,

748
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: i'm tweeting in real time. I'm giving live scores to

749
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: cbsports HQ. We're all sort of caught up in everything

750
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: that's going on. I'm preparing my post fight column with

751
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: notes all that stuff. But Luke, this is more comparable

752
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: to like a Deontay Wilder fight, where he's also all

753
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: often losing at the point of scoring a knockout, or

754
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: even the same scenario we had it in Ghanu versus Fury.

755
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: We're obviously in Ghanu had the biggest moments, but that's

756
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: not how fights are scored, folks. Okay, and if I

757
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: win around just barely and you dominate me but don't

758
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: drop me, I'm sorry. The scoring is the same for

759
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: better or worse, usually worse. But in this case, Luke,

760
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 3: I rewatched it. I think six and eight are the

761
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: swing rounds, and I think upon rewatch, I can give

762
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: round eight to Garcia where I originally gave it to Haney,

763
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: and the points about six and eight being a swing

764
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: round I think are Ryan got off in both rounds

765
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 3: in the first fifteen seconds, landing a multiple punch combination,

766
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: but then doing nothing the rest of the round as

767
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: Hainy was cornering him, cutting off the ring. I mean

768
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: Hainy did something brilliant for rounds two through five that

769
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: no one's give him credit to. After getting rocked early,

770
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: he took back the control of the fight. He limited

771
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 3: it to one punch out of time. When Ryan can

772
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: only throw one punch out of time, He's not dangerous, right,

773
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 3: He's dangerous in flow with combination. So in that regard

774
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: it was brilliant. But in round dight Hainy did not

775
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: do as much getting inside going to the body as

776
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: I thought he did. So if I swing that round,

777
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: I now have it seven to five for Ryan, but

778
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: it would be he would get the slight one one, thirteen,

779
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: one eleven. With the knockdowns, Harvey Dock had an awful night, Luke.

780
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't just the point out of nowhere. Some people

781
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: think Harvey Duck went too far, and I think the

782
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: two slips from Hany in round seven after he got

783
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 3: knocked out the rock i'd actually upon rewin. I don't

784
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: think either of knockdown so there was no punch Haney.

785
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 3: They looked aggressively trying to fall forward and hold Garcia,

786
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: which again it would have been on Doc to warn him,

787
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: which he never did. But Doc also did stuff the

788
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: other way that I didn't like. Initially, when Ryan was

789
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 3: turning his back, he was warning Hany not to punch

790
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: him in the kidney area. And here's the deal on

791
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: the spinning around. Obviously it looks horrible and people are like, well,

792
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: I don't people don't normally do that in boxing. Yeah,

793
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: there's a reason.

794
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 2: There's a two parts. There's a reason guys don't show

795
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 2: their back in boxing.

796
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: Number One, you can get hit with a punch you

797
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: don't see coming, which is the number one reason not

798
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: to turn your back or compromise your vision, and not

799
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: every referee is going to save you. If referees are warning,

800
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: like Harvey Dock was warning Ryan to stop turning his back,

801
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: and you don't listen, they might let you just get

802
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: hit clean to learn.

803
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: There is one difference here with Ryan Garcia. He would

804
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: turn away in other fights like this, but this time

805
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: one of the slight differences. Not every time, but many times.

806
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: He would do it into the ropes, so there was

807
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: no way to get to the other side angle of him. Okay,

808
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: it becomes a problem in that from the middle and

809
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: I turned, you can come to the backside.

810
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: And but it's a twofold issue to try it like

811
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: that is not just the idea. You can get hit

812
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: with something you don't see coming and the referee may

813
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 3: not bail you out. But number two, if you turned

814
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: your back on the action at any point, you are

815
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: no longer intelligently defending yourself and the referee has all

816
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: rights to stop the fight right there. And it's TKO loss.

817
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: And when guys are getting hurt and they even show

818
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: a hint of that, a lot of referees will just

819
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: stop the fight. So we don't need to see that

820
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: from Ryan. And that did open up body moments for Haney,

821
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: and I thought he stole round six from it, even

822
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: if Haney overall was not going to the body and none.

823
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: I think that's a key why he lost Luke the

824
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 3: scoring though to close, it's just one of those things

825
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: that when you really understand how boxing has scored, Ryan

826
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: did nothing in any of the rounds that he didn't

827
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: land big shots in. He just did nothing. He got

828
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: slowed down, cornered, and Haney was at least landing one

829
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: punch cold and I'm not saying I love that strategy,

830
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: but that's more than Ryan doing nothing. People have to

831
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: come to terms with that. Just because you watch a

832
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: fight and somebody scores flashing knockdowns, it doesn't automatically when

833
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: they mean they want it. Ryan almost left that back

834
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 3: door open in a big way.

835
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: He risked after the two knockdowns in round seven and ten,

836
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, any rallies the last two, he

837
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: should win this. The third knockdown, I thought that that

838
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: was over for him basically, But you're right that even

839
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: with the two knockdowns through ten rounds, he still was

840
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: potentially gonna lose it. Now be see, let me ask

841
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: you this one. Yeah, we gotta have a difficult conversation. Yeah,

842
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: let's talk about what people are calling the troll jobs.

843
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: I think I still don't agree with, but maybe you do.

844
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: Question for you, was this the greatest troll job since

845
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: Ali Listen one, thus necessitating a full apology from the

846
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: media for its aggressive concern about Garcia's mental well being?

847
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: Or did Garcia learn how much better he operates when

848
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: the pressure is on and unhinged chaos becomes the norm.

849
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: What do you think people hate when we ask deviceive

850
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: questions and then give middle of the road answers, but

851
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: like the true answer is yes, yes, and yes and

852
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: all of the above here, meaning this a lot of

853
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: people coming at us on Twitter, and this is great

854
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: because it's again Ryan flipped the script upside down. Now

855
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: we got all this great stuff to watch and talk about.

856
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 3: And I'm happy for Ryan, by the way, But this

857
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: whole idea that we owe Ryan an apology if we

858
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 3: predicted he'd get tu by a guitar.

859
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: Or get I think I do. I don't know about you.

860
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: I predicted he get one punch knocked out. So yes,

861
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: I owe him an apology on a bad prediction. He

862
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: brought himself up to a level of coming close to

863
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: fulfilling his potential in a weird way. But yeah, but

864
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: do I owe him an apology for writing a column

865
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: that I was concerned about his mental health and tweeting

866
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: that like they need to save him from himself. No,

867
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 3: people are telling me, wow, Ryan achieved shutting you ignorant

868
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: boxing media up who constantly lie and don't tell the

869
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: truth and constantly try to fool people. So he shut

870
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 3: us up by completely fooling us in the scariest way possible.

871
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: So look, do I think it was a troll job

872
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: against Devin Haney. Yes, I think it was a troll job.

873
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: I think aggressively, Ryan tried to do the skit with

874
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: the beer on the scales to just try to put

875
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: out that he's insane, he's not properly prepared for the fight,

876
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: the same thing we all thought all along, and I

877
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: think it actually worked against Haney. So if you want

878
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: me to give Ryan credit, I will. But am I

879
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: going to give Ryan credit for fooling all of us

880
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: who cared enough about him and were actually publicly saying,

881
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 3: you know, but at the end of the day, him

882
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: taking clean punches to the head might not actually be

883
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: the best potential scenario here. No, I'm not gonna apologize

884
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 3: for that. Obviously, the New York Stay Athletic Commission, Oscar

885
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: de la Hoya, Golden Boy Promotions, de Zoonne, whoever are

886
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: the adults in the room. I'm sure they did their

887
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: due diligence to check him, and Ryan did have to

888
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: pass mental tests and all that. But Luke, I can

889
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 3: act like an extreme creepy sexual man around your family

890
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: members for a day, but I can't come the next

891
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 3: day and be like, oh, yeah, guys, I was just

892
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: kidding and be like, Luke, you still need to look

893
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: me in the eye and have the same respect for me.

894
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: You'd be like, no, get away from my family members,

895
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: you creepy show. I saw you putting your hands on

896
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: my wife's legs. You know what I'm saying, Like, you

897
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: can't just act insane, And then go, I was just

898
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: acting insane, and then we're like, ah, man, you got us.

899
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: You need to be insane to act insane like that.

900
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 3: So what I actually think is what Ryan admitted after

901
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: the fight was actually true. He talked about his divorce

902
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: and the chaos he was living through, and yes, I

903
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: do think this was a situation not completely similar to FULLYD.

904
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: Mayweather's arc about this about Floyd the Great Floyd, the

905
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: guy who was always able to press pause on everything

906
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: and going on all the chaos in his life, And

907
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: if you followed Floyd's career from start to finish, it

908
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: was always chaos. His ability to gain control amid the

909
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: storm inside the center of that ring is what made

910
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: him great. He would always control the terms of it,

911
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 3: limit the danger in the damage. Ryan's not that type

912
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 3: of fighter, but Luke I do think Ryan was able

913
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: to create a perfect storm. How often do we talk

914
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: about fighters that they need to be the biggest content

915
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: and salesmen to themselves.

916
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they to talk to them. Every single prize fighter

917
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: brainwashes themselves.

918
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: He brainwashed himself to be in Game seven crazy mode.

919
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: He amped it up in certain areas to fool a

920
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 3: bunch of us. But Luke, there's still chaos in his life.

921
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: I just think in this case, the chaos produced in

922
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: this season the best version of him. But when you

923
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: hear him talk afterwards about yeah, I was smoking and

924
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: drinking and all of that, this is not sustainable, Luke.

925
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: It's sustainable for the very few. Maybe John Jones, but

926
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: that had this ride has had a lot of highs

927
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: and lows in that. I do fear for Ryan on

928
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: that when I tweet, Wow, maybe it was a bit

929
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: troll job. I mean from a stylistic standpoint, I mean

930
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: from a getting in his opponent's head. But like, I

931
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: still got major concerns about the way he's living his

932
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: life publicly, this crazy and aggressively. I mean, look, if

933
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: we did a laundry list of the things that came

934
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 3: out in the past few weeks and actually, well.

935
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: Folks, forget, wasn't it his people that tried to get

936
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: him admitted to a psych ward. I mean, it wasn't

937
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: wasn't boxing media who tried it wasn't. It wasn't us,

938
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: It was his people in his inner circle. This is

939
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: a guy who claimed he had seen Bohemian grove and

940
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: was kidnapped in a forest and forced to watch child pornography.

941
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy went and said everything. There was

942
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: that female influencer who said she felt harassed by him,

943
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: yes sexualip I mean the whole like this idea that

944
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: he wasn't acting in aberrant ways. Again, what that relationship

945
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: ended up being to his performance seems a little bit

946
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: more tenuous than certainly I thought it was going to be.

947
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: But PC, I want to be careful because again, do

948
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: we o Ryan garciag apology? Ryan put the camera on me?

949
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: Here it is already on me. Ryan. I said you

950
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: going to get tuned up like a guitar, and now

951
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 2: it is me who's getting tuned up like a guitar

952
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: on social media for it. But okay, I earned that.

953
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: What I will say iSBC in defense of some of

954
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: my apprehension, I am happy to admit like I was

955
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 2: trying to dissect, like what exactly did I get wrong?

956
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: I got wrong about what Ryan is capable of. I

957
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: got wrong what Devin Haney is much more defensively deficient

958
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: than I realized, And so that interplay between them I

959
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: got wrong. What I don't think is wrong, and what

960
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: I will still hold on to is was Ryan able

961
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: to be successful despite these circumstances? Yes he was. Fair

962
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: play to him. Shut us all up on that level.

963
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna have a hard time convincing me that drinking

964
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 2: every day in your camp is a recipe for long

965
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: term either happiness or certainly prize fighting you success.

966
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: Nightly live audio segments on Twitter, where again, even if

967
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 3: you're trolling, you're having like Alex Jones and Andrew tayd

968
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: On one minute talking about like craziness and I know

969
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: Ryan's for the children and some of that might certainly

970
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 3: be real, and that's great, But at the flip side,

971
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 3: he's also recruiting women to like come meet him in

972
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: his hotel room on these live like Twitter space. I mean,

973
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: it's it's hard, like the night after it, It's just

974
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: bizarre behavior from start to finish.

975
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: It It's listen He's clearly under a lot of pressure

976
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: for what's ever happening in his life, and we can

977
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: only wish him well in dealing with that. So I

978
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 2: am a little bit concerned. On the one hand, BC

979
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: this victory, it's gonna propare He was already a star,

980
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: but this really put him over the top. I mean,

981
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: this was a monster. It wasn't just a credible win.

982
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: It was a credible win when no one thought he

983
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: was gonna be able to do it, and so he

984
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: does it. But what I'm a little bit concerned about

985
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: is is the success that comes with this going to

986
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: send those bad habits into overdrive or is it going

987
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: to help him to deal with it now that he's

988
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: achieved something that perhaps was lacking before. Also, I saw

989
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: Paula Melanagi say something about Ryan Garcia which is he's

990
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: the best fighter he's ever seen that's never had a

991
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: world title. I don't know how true that is, but

992
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: certainly he's in the conversation where were you are?

993
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no question about that. I just think he

994
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: was able to It's potentially a short term formula though,

995
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 3: like living life this crazy and partying this hard behind

996
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 3: the scenes, but like you know, you did. Hear Bernard

997
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: Hopkins in the post fight press conference echo what we're

998
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: all thinking. What could it be like if he put

999
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: it all together and lived the spartan life and listen

1000
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: to the coaches. Could it be him at reaching for

1001
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: and getting the best version of him? Or Luke? Is

1002
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: he one of those people that the best version of

1003
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: him will always come from chaos? You know what the

1004
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 3: best version of Manipacia was when he was shooting dice

1005
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: in the evenings with his friends and womanizing. That's just

1006
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:26,479
Speaker 3: the truth.

1007
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 2: But all these comparistainable. Also, all these converisons to Floyd

1008
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: and whatnot. In Floyd's chaos, Floyd was does didn't do drugs.

1009
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 3: No, Floyd's discipline was just like his discipline is next

1010
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: level when it comes to stuff like that.

1011
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: So again, like all these comparisons with John Jones, oh Floyd,

1012
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: there's meaningful differences in all those different directions.

1013
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: That's one point that out you want to get some

1014
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: of the week to my transition. But hearing Ryan by

1015
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: the way say afterwards that like, I've been through so

1016
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: much worse than this in my life. What happened this week,

1017
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: he said, this week was so crazy. We could make

1018
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: a movie about it. But he said, I have been

1019
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 3: through so much worse in my life that this was nothing.

1020
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 3: It showed me that he does have a survivor mentality.

1021
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: It showed me that he carmentalize and really just focus

1022
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: and hone in and we got the best of that

1023
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: out of there. Let's get into some of the victory

1024
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 3: lap from Ryan, and he deserves it, by the way.

1025
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: I'm the fall out of how he acted and now

1026
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 3: he's how he's able to celebrate. Here here's Ryan at

1027
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: the post fight press conference. Uh, y'all must have forgot right,

1028
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: let's listen in.

1029
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 6: You know, this is why people need to stop believing

1030
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 6: everything on the internet and stop, you know, living in

1031
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 6: a false reality. At the end of the day, there's

1032
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 6: a lot of real shit going on.

1033
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: You know.

1034
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 6: The last thing you should worry about is a kid

1035
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 6: acting crazy on the internet. Real shit is going on

1036
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 6: in the world. Open your eyes. You know, kids being hurt,

1037
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 6: nobody caring. Everybody looking at it like, oh, he just crazy,

1038
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 6: he's a conspiracy. This is that, at the end of

1039
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 6: the day, that shit was real, and I out there

1040
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 6: put that my reputation online had everybody thinking on what's

1041
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 6: crazy but at the end of the day, who's the

1042
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 6: crazy one?

1043
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 7: Now?

1044
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 6: You know, I didn't even really want to say this,

1045
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 6: but it's the truth. You know, everybody needs to acknowledge, Like, Yo,

1046
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 6: I'm tripping. Y'all was tripping, not me.

1047
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: You guys were tripping.

1048
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: I wasn't.

1049
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 6: I was the one that was actually with sanity because

1050
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 6: I'm like, they're hurting other cases, let's help him. That's

1051
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 6: called being a real man, because I don't give a

1052
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 6: fuck what people say about me. I walked through the

1053
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 6: fire and still howd it down and still beat fucking

1054
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 6: Devin Haney and still drank every day and still beat him,

1055
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 6: and I did everything.

1056
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 4: What the butt? Hey, what happened? False reality?

1057
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 8: Right?

1058
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 6: Drank every single night, went out on the first Monday

1059
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 6: and a Tuesday and drank.

1060
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: And what happened?

1061
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 6: I won?

1062
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: He did calm down, not necessarily. Not necessarily.

1063
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 6: Am I proud of that? But I'm just saying this

1064
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 6: is it was a statement to show you you guys

1065
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 6: can't really fuck with me.

1066
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: That's right.

1067
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: I do whatever I want. I still win, right, and

1068
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: I give him that respect that he's able to pull

1069
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: this off. Of course, the mental journey, then he can

1070
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: do that, but we weren't tripping. No, Luke, he made us, Like,

1071
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying, He purposely made us, So I

1072
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: don't need to apologize for the bear trap that you

1073
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 3: sent for me and I got called. You know what

1074
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like like I care again.

1075
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 2: Also just it's like we got to be very careful

1076
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: with correlation and causation that he did those things. That

1077
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: success is not proof that you can always do those

1078
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: things and have success.

1079
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: Also, even in his postfights speech in the ring afterwards,

1080
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: it was a mixture of good and weird and wild

1081
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: and wacky. Still, so I'm not sure we talked about

1082
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: the media who got it wrong. They didn't mention Luke's

1083
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 3: name in this or the day of video, But here's

1084
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: his dad, Henry Garcia.

1085
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 5: Think we did get it wrong, Timothy, Timothy Bradley, Jury,

1086
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 5: Steve Kim, maybe, Mario Lopez maybe, But they're all pieces

1087
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 5: of shit, Okay, oh shit, And I'm so glad I

1088
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 5: fucking lost and.

1089
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 3: Ryan proved them wrong.

1090
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, Timothy Bradley said, my big right no ditty.

1091
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: By the way. A second later after that video cut off,

1092
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: the PR person for Golden Boy, Ryan was trying to leave.

1093
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: She started screaming, stop following him, let my fighter go.

1094
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: If any of you follow him, I will never credential

1095
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: you again. Really, she put down the law.

1096
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: It was wild.

1097
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: Finally, Luke, I got a quick tweet to throw too.

1098
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 3: This seems to be the message now Garcia is trying

1099
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 3: to send that it that he was trolling. He says, imagine,

1100
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: just imagine a guy that trolled NonStop. So to close

1101
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 3: quickly on this, Luke, like sixty percent trolling and.

1102
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: Not even I think it's I think I agree with

1103
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: the way you put it. I mean, here's what I

1104
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: would say. He was clearly acting up at a bare

1105
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: minimum on fight week for effect. I mean that can

1106
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: that clearly I think is true. But this idea that

1107
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: like he's Sasha Baron Cohen. Yeah, and he's one guy

1108
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: one time and another guy another time, and there's the

1109
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: two polar opposites I don't buy as true. I think

1110
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 2: he takes the volume of what he is and turns

1111
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: it up to a ten when there are cameras on

1112
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: or what he.

1113
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: Wants to do, the pressure on him to be at

1114
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: his best.

1115
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: That's right, But I don't think he's being somebody He

1116
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: basically is not. I think he's being a more outrageous

1117
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: version of who he already is.

1118
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 3: And by the way, he's great for boxing. He's a

1119
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: big matchmaker, he's a gambler in terms of the fights

1120
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: he takes, and he's got the guts in and we

1121
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 3: found out the combination of everything else to actually pull

1122
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: it off. Because Luke, this is topic number three that

1123
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: we transition to the whole fallout, the whole idea of

1124
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: like where would Ryan be today Monday morning if this

1125
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: was a second consecutive, you know, disastrous one sided loss

1126
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 3: on the highest level. We didn't get there. So, Luke,

1127
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: we hit a lot of the Haney points, but he

1128
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 3: was unbeaten number five pound for pound on my CBS

1129
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: Sports list coming in and we'd, like we mentioned, rarely

1130
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: ever seen him. Took a misstep. I don't think it's

1131
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: long term disastrous, but what weight where would you like

1132
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: to see him in the rebound to try to give

1133
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: him the best shot to regain all that.

1134
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: I mean, let's just this.

1135
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: Time to go up.

1136
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: Let me let me just repeat one more time. If

1137
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: I made this was really really bad loss for Devin Haney.

1138
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: This is not just a bad loss. This is a

1139
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: very devastating loss. Now to the point that you raised

1140
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 2: at twenty five years of age, given what he's already done,

1141
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: he'll he'll get back to some big nights where his

1142
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: hand is getting raised. He'll do some great things.

1143
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: I was going to fix the glitch in the gym

1144
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: he is, well, we'll see. It wasn't his chin. It

1145
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: wasn't he was he.

1146
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't think he's but I don't think he's super

1147
00:49:59,040 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: durable either.

1148
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: I think he's got a you got a flashchin, He'll

1149
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: be there, but you can hurt him.

1150
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he showed great resilience, don't get

1151
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: me wrong, but his like natural durability. I don't think

1152
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: he has a ton. But I'll just say this, this

1153
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: was devastating. I mean I talked to Steven Bredman Edwards,

1154
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: who certainly knows a little bit more about boxing than

1155
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: I do. I remember after Errol Spence lost to Bud Crawford,

1156
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: and of course we all remember that fight. It was

1157
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 2: very one sided in Bud's favor, and he I remember

1158
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: talking to him about like, where would you rank Errol

1159
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 2: after this? And he made a point to me, He's like, listen,

1160
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: if you're a pound for pound guy and you lose devastatingly.

1161
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: People want to say, oh, well, you got beat by

1162
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: another pound for pound guy, but his point was is

1163
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: if your pound for pound you shouldn't lose like this. Ever, now,

1164
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: this fight was not quite as one sided, which ended

1165
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: up being a Bud barely took it at I mean,

1166
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: Bud lost the first round on that fight and never

1167
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: looked back and then finished him off and scored a stoppage. Right,

1168
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 2: But dude, you've got a guy in Devin Haney, to

1169
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 2: your point, on everyone's pound for pound list in certain

1170
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: cases inside the top five, and he just lost to

1171
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: a guy who's never been a champion, who was not

1172
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: ranked inside the pound for pound spot, and he got whooped.

1173
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: This is a devastating loss for him. It is a

1174
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: lesson in uh, any number of things that we've kind

1175
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: of already touched on, what the weight meant, how he

1176
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: should have how we should have handled it.

1177
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: Okay, he's a short term devastating, but I think he's

1178
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: already got the skills, the mindset, the IQ and the

1179
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 3: foundation to quickly. Now, look, he's got to make some adjustments.

1180
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 3: I mentioned the andre Ward style of infighting, and he's spinning.

1181
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 2: He got one of the times he got knocked down.

1182
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 2: He got knocked down from inside fighting like that.

1183
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: Is when he was heard it fell apart. Look I'm

1184
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: not I'm not absonde.

1185
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: Also one more time, like he's known for his jab, right,

1186
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: that's the what's what's Devin Haney's number one weapon, it's

1187
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: his jab.

1188
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 3: Ryan took it away with the common.

1189
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: Ryan took it away. And I want to point out

1190
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: something like everybody who does tape study on Devin Haney

1191
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: talks about this. Everybody, even I knew it was a weakness.

1192
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: I just didn't think Ryan would get to it as

1193
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: often as he did. What happens is you'll see when

1194
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: Devin Haney jabs, he brings his hand up. Sometimes a

1195
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 2: lot of times what he does is he does he

1196
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: pulls it back or he drops it down and then

1197
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 2: he'll reach over his front toes. He has a wide

1198
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: open target all the time. Womachenko was able to find it.

1199
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: He just didn't have the firepower. It's like, dude, how

1200
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: do you have a deficiency that that that noticeable to

1201
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: anyone on tape? And then you go into a fight

1202
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: with Ryan Garcia answer question?

1203
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: Because there are a couple people on the planet with

1204
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: the reflex his speed and power. One of the punch dude.

1205
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: Even whatever you thought about was if I'm Derek James

1206
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: and I no, I'm not dging dum. Sorry. If I'm

1207
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: Bill Haney and I'm Devin Haney, you can say anything

1208
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: else you want. You have to know the left hook

1209
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: is coming right fact. Factor fiction.

1210
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: Okay, you know factor fiction.

1211
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask. You're gona ask you factor fiction. Fact.

1212
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: I haven't asked. You don't even know what I'm saying.

1213
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: Factor fiction. They had a proper game plan to deal

1214
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: with Ryan Garcia's left hook. Fiction fiction.

1215
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: Yes, fiction, they did help derail him. Was getting hurt

1216
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: in the first round. He made the adjustments from two

1217
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: through five, but him being unable to look people at

1218
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 3: a lot of things to say about Haine's power, and

1219
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 3: I defended it. There is a limit to Haines's power.

1220
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: He's finding it at one point forty right here. He

1221
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 3: was unable to back up and hurt.

1222
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: He couldn't hurt Garcia at all.

1223
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: But not able to hurt him. So that's the thing.

1224
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: But I'd bet your beard that pretty strongly that Hani

1225
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: wins the decision in the rematch that he takes away

1226
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: Ryan's left till completely kind of MUCKs up the fight,

1227
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 3: but does what I'm talking about targets the body early.

1228
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: I only want to read it's fair enough. I only

1229
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: want to just make this point out, and if you

1230
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: want to wagh on it, you may, certainly. The only

1231
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: thing I want to say is I don't think they

1232
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: had the very best game plan that they could have.

1233
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: They did not have a proper they did not properly

1234
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: take away what was Ryan's most known and potent weapon.

1235
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: And then more to the point that, I don't think

1236
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: that in the end they didn't handle the way in

1237
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: situation as well as they could have. That's a separate one.

1238
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: But one more time, aside from George Cambosas, who had

1239
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: an inspired night against Teyo Fimo Lopez, he doesn't have

1240
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: a win over somebody noteworthy who was in their prime.

1241
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: It's a lot of older guys like Leonaris and Alomachenko

1242
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: who was oversized.

1243
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: He destroyed Progray for the belt him and ro.

1244
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: Grade was also in late thirties as well. This is

1245
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to point out, how we're doing here.

1246
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 3: He's twenty five. What are we doing here.

1247
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: All I'm trying to I'm trying, dude. If you everyone's

1248
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: going to be different. Yeah, I feel like I whiffed

1249
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 2: big time on this, Yes, so I don't want to overreact,

1250
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: but I at least I'm trying to find the pieces

1251
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: of what I missed, and I think of big pieces.

1252
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: There were defensive lapses in what he was doing prior

1253
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: to this that he got away with him because Lenaris

1254
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: couldn't capitalize, yes, or Libacheco didn't have the firepower or whatever,

1255
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: and then he got here and it all got completely

1256
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: blown out, and that.

1257
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: I think it is as a lesson. He can only

1258
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: learn the hard way in the ring. But the amount

1259
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 3: of fighters on this planet that have that level of

1260
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 3: explosive speed and turns out, has that accuracy in that

1261
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: reaction time that Ryan has. We always knew he had it,

1262
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: it's just executing it the way he did. Holy crap,

1263
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: he did it. I think hany can fix this now.

1264
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: Will they run it back right away? Or does Ryan

1265
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 3: gofter Tao Fema. I mean Ryan's on a point obviously

1266
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 3: from this win. He can do anything, and he can

1267
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 3: kind of cross over anyone that where can bring them in.

1268
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: He's in a huge spot. Luke. He talked about he

1269
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 3: had a dream that he moved up to fifty four

1270
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 3: and beat Fundra, and he says, I want to do that.

1271
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 3: He's calling out Crawford. What do you think he does

1272
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: because Oscar gambled and they won big.

1273
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: I think they rematch at one forty seven. I think

1274
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: a rematch at one forty seven, because remember this was

1275
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: not a Super A junior welterweight fight, right, this was

1276
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: not a one forty It was welterweight fight basically catchwait, certainly,

1277
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 2: but do it at one forty seven. Put both guys

1278
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: at one forty seven. You've already had, uh, well, you

1279
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: would imagine both guys could relatively easily make it. I

1280
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: think that the rematch would be huge. Bryan's blown up,

1281
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 2: Hainey's still a tough test. This the bat, the belts

1282
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: are still kind of hanging out there. Yeah, this idea

1283
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: that Ryan, And again I don't want to listen. I

1284
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 2: don't want to make the same mistake twice. But I

1285
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: feel like Ryan Garcia versus Boots Ennis, I don't love

1286
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 2: that do that. No, no, no, I don't love that fight

1287
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Speaker 2: for Ryan Garcia.

1288
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 3: No, don't go anywhere near that. I think he'll eventually

1289
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: rematch Tank, obviously, and this raises the stakes on him

1290
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: against Tank. He would have to force Tank to come

1291
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 3: up and wait. That's the issue, and that's the major

1292
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 3: issuecause Ryan's not gonna do the catchway thing again. I

1293
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 3: wouldn't want him go after Matias for a title because

1294
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 3: I think that could be a trap. But here's the deal.

1295
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 3: I think they should inquire about Tao Fema, who has

1296
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 3: a fight coming up, a kind of like a stay

1297
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: busy mandatory. I think they should inquire about making the

1298
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: Hainy rematch at one forty seven. I like that idea.

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00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: Ryan has another potential option. We throw it quickly Long Island, Luke,

1300
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: and it is Connor Ben, the big UK star who

1301
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 3: called him out. And then we saw Ryan saying let's

1302
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: run it back. And then boy did he ruin the

1303
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: spelling on Spleen right there. But you know he'll still fracture.

1304
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: But Luke, you're in. Look. I want him to rematch Tank,

1305
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: and I think this now makes the Tank rematch viable.

1306
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: But you know what he should do next. You're gonna

1307
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: hate this. You're gonna hate this because.

1308
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: You always hate the answer. Pornography. I don't want to

1309
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 2: know more.

1310
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: He's Oscar is really smart and the one thing I

1311
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 3: have to say, Crawford, Oscar is really smart as a

1312
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 3: promoter at times when he's in the right place and

1313
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: he's moving forward. Manny Pakiao. Is the fight right now

1314
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 3: for Ryan Garcia? Right fricking yep? Right now? Right now? Man,

1315
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: he's been out a while, he's like forty five right now.

1316
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be honest, is that my number one

1317
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 2: fight that I want to see for Garcia?

1318
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: No, you want him to be a superstar in a

1319
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 3: fight that he actually still could lose. Seriously, he still

1320
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 3: could lose.

1321
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: Not as likely, but yeah he could. He could.

1322
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: I don't want to see Connor be. I don't know.

1323
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: I just I'm not into the Connor Connor Ben.

1324
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: I'm not into Where are you on the rematch at

1325
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: one forty seven with Haney?

1326
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 3: I like it, but I think that's going to make

1327
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 3: a better Hani when he when he's allowed to. Haney's

1328
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 3: huge too. Ryan was bigger in the ring. But look,

1329
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, let me say this

1330
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: final comment on this. Ryan not only out punched Haney,

1331
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 3: he outthought him. He succeeded in getting Haney's head. Did

1332
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: that's why he want it? With maturity and knowledge, he

1333
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: put it together. Shout out to Ryan Garcia. But we

1334
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: do have to roll on.

1335
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so let's do this point number four, BC.

1336
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: Let's change gears to a little bit of UFC if

1337
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: we can. There was a media video which by the way,

1338
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: got completely drowned out, in part because it wasn't that

1339
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: bad and also because of this Handy Garcia madness. So, BC,

1340
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: you were featured in this I was not.

1341
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: Again, we have it, by the way, we have Okay, Well.

1342
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: Let me ask the question and then we'll roll it.

1343
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: But here's the question, BC, to what extent was Dana

1344
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: White justified in taking a UFE not just a UFC

1345
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: three hundred victory lap, but then at exposing everyone who

1346
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: wasn't initially blown away by the main of an announcement.

1347
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: Hold that question, Let's see the video.

1348
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 4: What's up, guys.

1349
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 9: As we rolled into UFC three hundred. Uh, the MMA

1350
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 9: experts weighed in on what they thought of UFC three

1351
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 9: hundred for all the fighters that were on this card.

1352
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 9: When I said, this is the greatest card ever assembled

1353
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 9: in the history of Combat Sports.

1354
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 4: This is what the media thought of you guys.

1355
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: UFC three hundred makes no sense. Is any fight on

1356
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 3: this card three hundred worthy?

1357
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 10: Now?

1358
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 3: This is the most diabolically disappointing UFC three hundred announcement ever.

1359
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: It feels kind of thrown together. Does it feel like

1360
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: the culmination of something big? We were continually told that

1361
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna knock your socks off, it's gonna be amazing.

1362
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 3: What the Dana say with Bright, We're gonna blow their

1363
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 3: sucks on. I wanted my jaw to hit the fucking ground.

1364
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: I did expect a little bit more from the company

1365
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 3: to blow us away. Nobody got blown a way nobody.

1366
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: We need people that know the sport to be running

1367
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: the show because this is pathetic.

1368
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 7: YOUFC three It is the worst promoted fight card ever,

1369
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 7: worst put together fight card ever. Justin Gaetschee and Max

1370
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 7: Hollway for the VMX title, which I think is the

1371
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 7: corniest nonsense on.

1372
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: Earth, wayle Jang, but against Junyan, China's gonna get all excited,

1373
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 2: and I don't think anyone else really care.

1374
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 3: YOUFC three hundred will be a disaster. Are you kidding me?

1375
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: Dana White the most monumental card that there's ever been.

1376
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: You've had a whole year to prepare for this.

1377
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: Aren't you trying to make sales? Don't you want people

1378
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: to actually buy the pay per view? This ain't it

1379
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, It's just a regular dcent taper.

1380
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: Your reaction, how dare he come after Big mac O

1381
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 3: eight two six.

1382
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: When he went after a prince of Doge? I was like,

1383
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: really he's going after this?

1384
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 3: Dana White deserved to take a victory lap. Look what

1385
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: did I do in the weeks leading up to that card?

1386
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 3: In the instant reaction afterwards in MK the next Monday,

1387
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 3: sat here and applauded Data. So I loved UFC three

1388
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 3: hundred so much it reinvigorated my own fan process as

1389
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 3: a journalist. Here that I said it afterwards, and I'll

1390
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 3: say it again, well done, Data. But if you're going

1391
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 3: to take a victory lap in this fashion again, I mean,

1392
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 3: at least use the facts. It's clear Data is continuing

1393
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 3: his continued aggressive, further movement on f the media right

1394
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 3: where we're moving the media out of the seats, we're

1395
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 3: bringing in the YouTube influence will sit in this large

1396
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 3: echo chamber and smell his farts and never complain, right,

1397
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 3: So I get look at the verbiage and how he

1398
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 3: teed up to the video when he said, because the

1399
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: media didn't respect you, the fighters, and they're framing it

1400
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: like that.

1401
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: I know he's like he's the one on their side.

1402
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 3: Or by the way, was the media Mike Bone who

1403
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 3: publicly pushed for the fighters to get extra large bonuses

1404
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 3: at three hundred So it's obviously not the media. The

1405
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 3: same media who's publicly trying to help the anti trust

1406
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 3: lawsuit and pushing for the fighters, and we're the only

1407
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 3: ones that are apparently doing that, we're against them. It's laughable.

1408
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 3: But just like the video, the COVID video, it's really

1409
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: disappointing for me, not that Dana White doesn't deserve a

1410
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: big victory leap, but it's like, tell the truth fight

1411
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: the actual points of where people were against you. All

1412
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 3: the videos you just showed there, they're actually right because

1413
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 3: once again you're taking out of context clips, just like

1414
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: on the big COVID video when you took my own

1415
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 3: comments about what that you couldn't come back during COVID

1416
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: no that you were callously not listening to the governor

1417
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: California and saying, I don't need to do this with

1418
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: state commissions. We'll go to Tachi Palace because we still

1419
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 3: owe them, by the way. And it took the governor

1420
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: calling the only boss apparently that you have the Disney

1421
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: people that signed the checks to force you to stand down.

1422
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 3: That's what we were against. But you did this thing,

1423
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: this fake news thing. What does Dana always say in

1424
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 3: recent weeks, months, and years when he does constantly rip

1425
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,959
Speaker 3: the media that all they care about is lying clickbait

1426
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: and doing all this gotcha stuff? Dana, isn't this exactly

1427
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: what you're doing again showing out of context clips. When

1428
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 3: we reacted to what that UFC three hundred was gonna suck?

1429
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: Know that your own building up and telling us that

1430
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 3: UFC three hundred was going to be the biggest card

1431
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 3: of all time and that the main event was going

1432
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: to blow us away, what did we react to back

1433
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: in January and February, we were having an honest reaction

1434
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 3: to what that the biggest card ever was two months

1435
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 3: away and you still didn't have a main event. What

1436
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 3: we want at the end of the day is truth.

1437
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 3: Do you know where we were to PLoud and join

1438
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: the Dana White Victory Lap if he came out at

1439
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 3: any point during this and was honest and said, folks,

1440
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: our goal was to give you Connor versus Chandler.

1441
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 8: For that.

1442
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 3: When we got closer, we realized Connor wasn't in the

1443
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: right physical and mental state, and he did have the

1444
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 3: movie tour to promote Roadhouse, so it just wasn't going

1445
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 3: to work, and we didn't figure out UNTI last minute,

1446
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 3: but we scrambled and we still put together arguably the

1447
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: deepest cart of all time. That's exactly what happened. But

1448
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 3: if you want to sit here and me not at

1449
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 3: any point, whether it's back in January or even now,

1450
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 3: defend that for the biggest card ever, you rolled out

1451
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 3: Jamal Hill, Alis Pereira and Wailey Jong in a fight

1452
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,959
Speaker 3: that obviously was big, but should have been in China

1453
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 3: against Yao Shannan. Are those two fights acceptable atop of

1454
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 3: your marquee for your biggest fight card of all time? No,

1455
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 3: it's laughably not. It should have been with what they

1456
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 3: stuck with, by the way, which was a very deep

1457
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 3: and amazing card on paper. It obviously and it proved

1458
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: in the cage. It should have been Max versus justin

1459
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: in that main event, for the star power and for

1460
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 3: the potential of exactly what happened. But Luke, there are

1461
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 3: two things that we respond to as fans and journalists

1462
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: in terms of grading the UFC, the cards on paper

1463
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 3: and how they lived up afterwards. Just because the card

1464
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 3: lived up afterwards absolutely incredible doesn't always mean that anyone

1465
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 3: who criticized it on paper was wrong. In this case,

1466
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: it was very good on paper, and we said that,

1467
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: go pull the other clips. But to just continue to

1468
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 3: come out here with straight lies, continue to try to

1469
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 3: turn everybody against the media so that they're just not

1470
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 3: needed and they're out of the building and out of

1471
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 3: the picture completely is laughable. And maybe maybe Dana should,

1472
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 3: I don't know, act like you've been here before. Put

1473
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 3: out the press release that you did with all the stats.

1474
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: It's impressive. I'm actually proud of it. I'm happy that

1475
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 3: this sport did that. The crowd the fight card was incredible.

1476
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 3: But maybe it's the company you keep. Maybe you start

1477
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: hanging around with more humble killers who succeed, who are

1478
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: less worried about rubbing it in the face of Big

1479
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 3: Mac eight two four six and Brendan Shab and instead

1480
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 3: focusing on the next big project and the next big

1481
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 3: card that you're going to wow us with, because your

1482
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: reaction was kind of like an old bitch, or actually,

1483
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 3: to be fair, Dane, it was kind of like a

1484
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 3: young twenty something influencer who spends all his time at

1485
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 3: craps tables, which turns out it's the exact company you

1486
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 3: seem to keep all the time. And that's cool too,

1487
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 3: But like, act like you've been here, bro, I'm here

1488
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 3: to celebrate your touchdown dance. Let's just tell the truth

1489
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 3: for once and maybe h aim for the right reasons

1490
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 3: and the right arguments when you try to prove that

1491
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 3: we have a new cycle here, Luke, this show used

1492
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: to be all day, just about damn near every day,

1493
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: where we had to respond to whatever the news in

1494
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 3: the moment. The news in the moment in January was

1495
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 3: this big card's coming and we don't even know if

1496
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 3: we have a main or co main event. Okay, Dana

1497
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 3: should know. He's used to having to constantly fill time.

1498
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 3: Look at the Fight Night card this weekend. There's a

1499
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 3: reason why we're not previewing it, right, Yeah, it sucks exactly,

1500
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 3: so come on.

1501
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: Now, I just can't believe how wounded he is by

1502
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: the comments of MMA YouTubers.

1503
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 3: Dude, if you want, you want to have a dream

1504
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 3: board in your basement with all of our pictures and

1505
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: that's what motivates you to be a killer, do it?

1506
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 3: You don't show the public that don't.

1507
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: I don't. I just don't. I mean, I also just

1508
01:05:55,520 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: don't get it. It's like, I understand bristling at criticism

1509
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: that you might feel is unfair. But in the case

1510
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 2: of like for example, and he's had, you know, nigga

1511
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: things to say about me. But in the case of

1512
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: Jesse on Fire, apparently that clip that they pulled was

1513
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 2: him mocking people who were upset with it, wasn't him

1514
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 2: in any way suggesting it. So he got, he got.

1515
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: He caught some strays for no reason. Now do I

1516
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: think people were a little bit over the top and

1517
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 2: complaining about the Jessicon Drodge fight or the BMF fight

1518
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: or Nickel on the main event or a main card anyway.

1519
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: I thought that there was some criticism that was a

1520
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: little bit over the top, fair enough, but I just

1521
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: do It's like, dude, I don't care if half the

1522
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: people in that video, including you BC live or die

1523
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 2: so like this idea that you know, I'd be wounded

1524
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 2: by their comments. Like, dude, of all the things that

1525
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: are going to force me to lose sleep at night,

1526
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 2: that ship is probably at the very bottom of the list.

1527
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 2: I cannot believe a guy who is worth this much money,

1528
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: who has had this much success, who could have taken

1529
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 2: a time to make a video to thank UFC staff

1530
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 2: fighters though at the reck again to your point.

1531
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: For settling so that so that you can continue to

1532
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 3: be monstopsony.

1533
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like of all the things that could have gone,

1534
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 2: you're focused on the opinions including me, of people like

1535
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: who are utterly irrelevant to your business outcomes. How are

1536
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: you this old, this successful and this wounded? It makes

1537
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 2: no sense, old bitch.

1538
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 3: I mean, just to close on that, Luke is he's

1539
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 3: using a January argument to fight something that happened in April.

1540
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 3: Can we show the tweet from January from Dana tell

1541
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 3: me if this is true or false.

1542
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: This was a quote Championship Rounds.

1543
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 3: From Championship Rowns. But Dana did a live Instagram and Luke,

1544
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 3: everyone will go crazy for the UFC three hundred and

1545
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 3: it was good. It was a petty argument because the

1546
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 3: fight ruled and sort did the playoffs.

1547
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: And also listen, they remember they announced the main event

1548
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: first of all, a month before after trying a million

1549
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 2: different other things to get it. Or they tried John

1550
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: Jones for the main event that didn't work. They tried

1551
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of different rabbits under hat and it didn't work. Fine.

1552
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 2: They ended up getting put into Versus Hill, which at

1553
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: the time we had said was what it's good. Yeah,

1554
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna blow my socks off, but it's a

1555
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 2: perfectly fine main event, and it ended up being a

1556
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: you know, a bit of a destruction in the end.

1557
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: But like I just again, somehow missed the cut. BC.

1558
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 2: You're what's your theory on why I'm missing the cut?

1559
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. It now seems purposeful, okay,

1560
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 3: of course you need to pull burnt Chrysler and take

1561
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 3: your shirt off and put the camera on me and

1562
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 3: do the full like Cook, you know, do the full

1563
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 3: like let them bang, bro, I don't know. That's all

1564
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 3: I got for you. Let's keep it going.

1565
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 2: Well, all right, we can do like.

1566
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 3: Perry to calm in a little over five minutes, folks.

1567
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 3: But Luke, topic five, we got a little bit of

1568
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 3: a Latest News roundup of the week that was it's

1569
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 3: hard to do this once a week now. By the way,

1570
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 3: we do have big plans on expanding, so stay with us.

1571
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 3: But Luke, the baddest tour hit this past week, four

1572
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 3: stops and it was just bad New York, Miami And like.

1573
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: You and like ten other people and me are the

1574
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 2: only people that watched.

1575
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 3: Four stops stop that I don't believe in that. I

1576
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: did get the opportunity to host it. The fight will

1577
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 3: be on fan Meal pay per view on June first,

1578
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 3: And Luke, it was weird and wacky and wild. We

1579
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 3: have a couple of highlights to react to. Here's Nate

1580
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 3: Diaz in front of his home crowd last Friday and

1581
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 3: the final stop of the tour in LA about four

1582
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 3: minutes into the broadcast, Hey Andy, with a fun tour

1583
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 3: going out here and all this shit all over fucking USA,

1584
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 3: and uh, I'm done with all that shit.

1585
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 5: I'm cool off all this fucking talking shit.

1586
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 2: I got a whole team to represent.

1587
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 10: I don't want to do none of this.

1588
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 3: I never did want to.

1589
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 2: Do any of it.

1590
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:34,520
Speaker 4: Fuck this thinga and fuck his team, Bro, I gotta.

1591
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 2: Go honestly true story. That's how BC ends all meetings.

1592
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 3: So does he get a pass?

1593
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1594
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 3: I don't want anybody to get a pass.

1595
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: I mean, it's two twenty four and people are just

1596
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 2: you know, hating gay people and saying the N word again.

1597
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: So here we are.

1598
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 3: It killed the whole press conference. It did deliver the

1599
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 3: viral moment, but it's NATEDAZ So luke was that completely

1600
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 3: unpressioned from professional or was that on brand? And with

1601
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 3: this fight?

1602
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 2: Honestly, here's my reaction because I saw the Las Vegas

1603
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: stop and then I saw the subsequent l excuse me, Quenton,

1604
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: New York, and then Miami and then also ate end

1605
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: in LA. This was the LA stop watching. I did

1606
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: watch it. I tweeted about it. I'll let everyone know

1607
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: every single time, and people were like, are you being

1608
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 2: paid to watch this? I'm like, I'm actually just watching

1609
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: this to support BC. But here's here's the problem that

1610
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: this that this tour kind of highlighted that moment that

1611
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: you just showed when it ended up being shared on

1612
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 2: social later, is of anything that happened in the previous

1613
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: four dates the biggest thing that there was nothing else

1614
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: ever came close. They did a bit of a media

1615
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 2: scrum on Vegas, but they're there for UFC three hundred

1616
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 2: weekend because it was actually the week before, and that

1617
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: got a little bit of publicity, but not much. This

1618
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 2: one got the biggest. The problem is that this tour,

1619
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what it accomplished. Typically, when you're doing

1620
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,879
Speaker 2: a tour like this, you're doing it to generate media attention,

1621
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: to begin to drive narratives, to really begin to make

1622
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 2: a big splash. And while the tour looked nice from

1623
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: the visual presentation that I saw. You did a great

1624
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: job posting. It did have you some big names and

1625
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 2: Nate and Jorge, it didn't seem to do the job

1626
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 2: that tours want to do, which is to reach the

1627
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: next level of media, to to to raise awareness. It

1628
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: just kind of seems the same thing as from UFC

1629
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: to forty four.

1630
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 3: It was for the BMF fight, it was like, we

1631
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 3: have two verbal counterpunchers that kind of need the Connor

1632
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 3: to poke the poke the.

1633
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: Band they need one guy, needs a straight guy for

1634
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: the other one one guy so one guy can act

1635
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: out and but in this case they never had they

1636
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: they don't play off each other all that yeah, it.

1637
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 3: Didn't quite work out.

1638
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 4: It did.

1639
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 3: Nate did give you some Nate on brand moments here

1640
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 3: as the second one quickly, this might have been the

1641
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 3: highlight of the tour. This was in New York, which

1642
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 3: was a very pro Nate crab by the way that

1643
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:38,839
Speaker 3: his fans travel.

1644
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 2: Not in Miami, but definitely a New York game. It

1645
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 2: was night thirty nine front and.

1646
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 3: The fans serenadd him with a thing could have been

1647
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 3: just at least he could have been completely heart attacks.

1648
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 4: Didn't He.

1649
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 3: Is about that life there. And finally, Luke, it was

1650
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 3: a tough crowd in terms of us this thing on.

1651
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 3: Remember the issues I had in DC with the service

1652
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 3: workers just not necessarily they didn't love your bits. They

1653
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 3: didn't love any of them. I tried to get over

1654
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 3: some things that it just didn't really worker. That he

1655
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 3: might be into call on the microphone, but when it's

1656
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: time to throw down he sativa for days. You better

1657
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 3: believe that the fifth most strikes landed in UFC history

1658
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 3: Nate das. I mean that was about two and a

1659
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 3: half minutes before he walked off the stage.

1660
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: So guys, he might be like on the mine.

1661
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 3: Quickly, Luke, it is official now. June fifteenth, not in

1662
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 3: Houston was rumored at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, the

1663
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 3: third PBC on Amazon Prime Video. I'm sorry, I'm Prime Video.

1664
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 3: Pay per view is going to be the star studded doubleheader.

1665
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 3: You can see the poster there. Gervonte Davis will defend

1666
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 3: WBA lightweight title against unbeaten Frank Martin, and David Benavitez

1667
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 3: will move up in weight one seventy five to fight

1668
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 3: for an interim title against former champion Alexander Vodsik. Both

1669
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: fights are very good. Leonard Elderby tweeted that there's gonna

1670
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 3: be some really good main card fights to fill out

1671
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 3: that pay per view.

1672
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 2: Your reaction, I think people who are saying Frank Martin

1673
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: is some kind of.

1674
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,520
Speaker 3: Scrub, including Dravante who said he's as have.

1675
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: Have it totally wrong. I think Gravanti will win. I'm

1676
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: expecting him to win, But I think Frank Martin's gonna

1677
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 2: make it fun and competitive. So is it the fight

1678
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 2: that I would want to see the most? I mean him,

1679
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 2: Dravante and of course Stevenson had a huge back and

1680
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: forth over the weekend. I'd rather see that. However, I'm

1681
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,560
Speaker 2: happy to see this fight. I think it'll be a

1682
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 2: fun time. It's like and that's the other part I

1683
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 2: was gonna say, It's like, is is this the fight

1684
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 2: I want from both guys, either Javonte or David Benavidez.

1685
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be my first choice, but to get them

1686
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 2: as a it's not. It's not a double header in

1687
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: the way that we had the Charlo doubleheader.

1688
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 3: But it kind of is.

1689
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 2: But it kind of is. You get you get. You

1690
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 2: get two of boxing stars, one the pre eminent star,

1691
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 2: one on one on the rise, you get the African

1692
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 2: American fan base, get you get the Hispanic fan base,

1693
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: you get the crossover fan base, you get everything that

1694
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: you really want to make this work. I'm really excited

1695
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: for it. I actually can't wait, even though for the

1696
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 2: two of individual fights, I'm like, oh, I'd rather to

1697
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: see Benavidez Canelo. I'd rather see Stevenson take on Dravonte.

1698
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: I actually love this and I am super excited for

1699
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 2: that June fight.

1700
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 3: Mike Perry will be with us in just a matter

1701
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 3: of seconds. But to close, should I care about this?

1702
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 3: PFL officially signed eleven and one Irish free agent Paul

1703
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 3: Hughes to an exclusive deal.

1704
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand why the UFC is passing on all

1705
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 2: of some of these top European prospects. Cedric Doombay also

1706
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 2: just re signed with pflas Cedric Doombay has got to

1707
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 2: be one of the top prospects in the sport. Paul

1708
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: Hughes might be irrespective of weight class or nationality, the

1709
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: number one he was doing, he was one of our

1710
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 2: I think he was either our first or second Hammer

1711
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 2: of the month. Him and Elliot support the month.

1712
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 3: We'll retouch this at the end.

1713
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: So I was just going to say, great signing for PFL.

1714
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm a little surprised that UFC didn't pick him up.

1715
01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 2: But here we are talking.

1716
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 3: About a great signing. Let's talk about one of the

1717
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 3: biggest names, faces, attitudes in all of combat sports. A

1718
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 3: real pay per view star. He represents BKFC. He's known

1719
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 3: as the Platinum One, and this Saturday he will be

1720
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 3: headlining in Los Angeles bkfc's knuckle Mania four, a pretty

1721
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 3: loaded pay per view card, seriously up and down against

1722
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 3: former UFC title challenger Shaggle Elvis. It is Mike Frickin' Perry.

1723
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: Ye look at it, oh Luke, You know he's.

1724
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 3: My favorite guest of all time, even though he's nearly

1725
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 3: assaulted me on the mic a few times. Yeah, I

1726
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 3: mean I might catch those hands one day. Hey, Mike,

1727
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 3: you look fantastic. Brother. I'm always excited to chat with you.

1728
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 3: But you're escalating success the last few fights, the last

1729
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 3: few years. Man, I'm like, I want I need some merch.

1730
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 3: I need them. I need to put up some Mike

1731
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 3: Perry stuff on this show. Congratulations on everything. How the

1732
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 3: hell are you feeling entering yet another sort of WrestleMania

1733
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 3: tent pole event here for KFC.

1734
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much for having me.

1735
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 8: WrestleMania is a funny way to put it, because ain't

1736
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 8: nothing fake about this that we do. I'm very happy

1737
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 8: to be headlining such a stack card full of of

1738
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 8: incredible fights.

1739
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 4: These fights are gonna be amazing, you know.

1740
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 8: I'm so excited. Man, I'm ready. I'm prepped. I got

1741
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 8: more training to do throughout the week. I got some

1742
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 8: weight to cut, and I got a tough opponent, a

1743
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 8: little little rockhead brick wall in front of me. I'm

1744
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 8: gonna I'm gonna demolish him and break him down, and

1745
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 8: it should be fireworks all.

1746
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: Right, Mike, I got a million questions about the fight,

1747
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: but I gotta ask. We saw you on Bisping's podcast.

1748
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 2: You were a little bit mad at us. I want

1749
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 2: to talk about this. We never treated you like Jake Paul.

1750
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 2: That was never, ever, ever our intention. So can we

1751
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:00,799
Speaker 2: talk about that for a second.

1752
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 4: Man, the Mike bisbeing one.

1753
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 8: The last time I did the Mike Bisbig One, I

1754
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,879
Speaker 8: can't even remember what I might have been.

1755
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 4: Mad at you guys before I'll tell you.

1756
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So here here's what happened. You made the move

1757
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: from UFC to BKFC, and as BC just indicated, you

1758
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 2: took over the sport. What we had noted was the

1759
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 2: guys you were beating were established kickboxer like MVP or

1760
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: a much bigger guy like Luke Rockole, but they were

1761
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 2: in their later thirties. And this being suggested, I don't

1762
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 2: know if you meant it maliciously, but he suggested that

1763
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: we were treating you like Jake Paul. But that's not

1764
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: fair at all, because you're also an MMA fighter who

1765
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 2: crossed over. You're just better at it than those other guys,

1766
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 2: not a guy like Jake Paul who is taking people

1767
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 2: who have never done what he's been doing this whole time.

1768
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to clarify we never ever ever

1769
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: wanted to compare you to Jake Paul. Hope you understand this.

1770
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 4: I didn't.

1771
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 3: I don't know about if this was doing it either.

1772
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 4: Fuck up, that's okay.

1773
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 8: I mean, look, Jake Paul's doing great. He is. That

1774
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 8: motherfucker is taking everything I work for. I want to

1775
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 8: fight his fucking ass. And you know what's the real

1776
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 8: money fighter is me. And you know, these guys, I

1777
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 8: don't know if they want to do bare knuckle. I

1778
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 8: don't think they do. I can't put words in other

1779
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,839
Speaker 8: people's mouths. This is my game and it is different

1780
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 8: than you know, Like, could you imagine seeing Ryan Garcia

1781
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 8: versus Devin Haney and bare knuckle? No, you couldn't imagine it.

1782
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 8: I don't think either one of them would be up

1783
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 8: for that. Obviously, they get paid the big bucks to

1784
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 8: put the gloves on the A down's gloves are a

1785
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 8: big punch.

1786
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 3: You know.

1787
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 8: And I got a little hit list that I'll be

1788
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 8: ready to call out after I handle business this weekend.

1789
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 8: You know, look, Luke rock Hole just want to fight

1790
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 8: against shilling. And you know, he hit him with that

1791
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 8: lead right hook that it was kind of a check

1792
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 8: hook from a south paw dance, and I slipped and

1793
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 8: rolled that thing and came up with my own punch.

1794
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 4: There was a little bit of a a weight a

1795
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 4: hydration clause on Luke.

1796
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 8: I want that to be known because we saw how

1797
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 8: Ryan Garcia performed not having a hydration clause. And you know,

1798
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 8: he came out to fight that was that was commendable

1799
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 8: and you know, shout out to Luke. He took the fight.

1800
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 8: Eddie Alvarez was smaller and he was quick, and he

1801
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 8: gave me. He gave me a couple of shots, but

1802
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 8: he quit. He quit man right. He didn't take that

1803
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 8: beating like a man. He should have came back out there.

1804
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 8: And this week, even though Tiaga has been trying to

1805
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 8: be nice to me, it's like he doesn't want to

1806
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 8: make me mad or something.

1807
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 4: There's nothing he can do about that.

1808
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 8: I'm coming in furious and ferocious and I'm not gonna

1809
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 8: let him give up. I'm gonna beat him and he's

1810
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 8: gonna have to face the pain.

1811
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 4: I will face it.

1812
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 8: I will face the pain like a man, like a

1813
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 8: like a madman.

1814
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 4: If you will and I live for it, this moment.

1815
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 8: I train all year to get to this moment, to

1816
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 8: where I get to enjoy my time.

1817
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 4: In the ring.

1818
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 8: And you know, shout out to all the fans that

1819
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 8: will be in place this week.

1820
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 4: I will speak with them. I will talk to them. Uh.

1821
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 8: And I'm not even from over there in LA. But

1822
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 8: when I get there and I have my opportunity, I

1823
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 8: am ready to talk and I am ready to back

1824
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 8: it up. I'm gonna walk all over him. And I'm

1825
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 8: not gonna lead the press conferences like a local town

1826
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 8: ideas did They didn't hate on him for it, Oh

1827
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 8: they they started hating on Jorge when he did that. Man,

1828
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 8: my head's all over combat sports. I am the king

1829
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 8: of violence, you know. So it only stands and and

1830
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 8: I'm looking to put on a beautiful show this weekend,

1831
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 8: the best of my life.

1832
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 2: Well, one last one from me here, Mike. From your perspective,

1833
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: when you look back at the fights against Alvis, rock Hole,

1834
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: Page Lane Seals, you want them all? Why have you

1835
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: been so successful? Why are you so good at this

1836
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: in ways that the people they're trying to put up

1837
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 2: against you just cannot be.

1838
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:24,879
Speaker 8: I've always been a brawler, boxer. I've always loved boxing.

1839
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 8: I've always loved the swagger to it.

1840
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 4: You know.

1841
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 8: I was someone posted my Danny Roberts fight, my second

1842
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 8: UFC fight a while back on Twitter.

1843
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 4: It was like all the good parts.

1844
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 8: It was like eight almost eight minutes, and it's like

1845
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 8: they skipped all the in between parts of like us

1846
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 8: setting things up, but you know, and it was still

1847
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 8: eight minutes of raw action. Just you know. I, yes,

1848
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 8: I take some shots, but it's the way I roll them,

1849
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 8: it's the way I deal with them, It's the way

1850
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 8: I work.

1851
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 4: My range and distance.

1852
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 8: And uh, you know, obviously the toughness is the big

1853
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 8: part of this. And we know that tough fighters do

1854
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 8: sometimes that if one, if another opponent is is too

1855
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 8: sharp on the outside. You know, like when I thought

1856
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 8: Tim means, for example, he was able to poke me

1857
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 8: on the outside, I kind of gasped my arms out

1858
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 8: trying to choke him in the first and and I

1859
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 8: just didn't have the foot speed that I have now

1860
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,879
Speaker 8: to close the range with my head off center, slipping

1861
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:37,879
Speaker 8: and and get inside to land my own vicious shots.

1862
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 8: And and you know, Tim was able to poke me

1863
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 8: on the outside. Now Tiago and me are very similar

1864
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 8: in stature and size and length and reach and very

1865
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 8: upper body esque. And he's got two Barnocle fights. He's

1866
01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 8: got the experience in Barnocle, and so do eyes. So

1867
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 8: I mean, I think this should be a great fight.

1868
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 8: And it pumps me up to you know, to have

1869
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,759
Speaker 8: this match up in front of me, a guy that's

1870
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 8: that I can look myself in the mirror and be like,

1871
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 8: you know, it's me versus me. And even though he's

1872
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 8: bald and I have a beautiful head of hair, you know,

1873
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 8: it's it's me versus me in there, and and everything

1874
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 8: I've done leading up to this point, all the work,

1875
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 8: I just I just want to perform the best I can.

1876
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 8: And that's you know, that's a no quit attitude.

1877
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 3: Look, if you would just dye that beard, you could

1878
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 3: look as handsome as this gentleman thinks. So incredible, Mike,

1879
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the science of what

1880
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 3: you do. You give me an incredible speech a couple

1881
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 3: of interviews ago about always being mindful to keep the

1882
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,839
Speaker 3: inner bitch inside of you down. And obviously certain creatures

1883
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 3: have a sixth sense. Certain animals know when a storm

1884
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 3: is coming or what have you, or they can hear

1885
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 3: a dog whistle that no one else can hear. What

1886
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 3: are the telltale signs when you can feel the inner

1887
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 3: bitch of your opponent starting to come out? And those

1888
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 3: are the moments when you amp up the pressure and

1889
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 3: you feel like you have someone ready to go. Because

1890
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 3: once you sort of get those first instincts, I can

1891
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 3: see the change in the fight. I can see your

1892
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 3: demeanor seem to focus in even more. What are those

1893
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 3: signs that that man across from you just doesn't have

1894
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 3: that same dog?

1895
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 8: You know, I can't say that I look too much

1896
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 8: at my opponents, Like I said, you know, I'm kind

1897
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 8: of looking at myself, and you know, winners focus on winners,

1898
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 8: and I've been beating these guys, and that's kind of

1899
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,799
Speaker 8: one thing about it is, you know, all the pressure,

1900
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 8: all the momentum building up because.

1901
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 4: I continue to win.

1902
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 8: You can't let those any doubt, no doubt, you know

1903
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 8: what I mean.

1904
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 4: You can't let it crowds.

1905
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 8: Your mind because there's still work to be done and

1906
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 8: there's much more that I can gain from continued success here.

1907
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 8: And you know, I don't want to start over. I'm

1908
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 8: I'm I'm in a good place and I want to

1909
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 8: continue it. And you know, the beauty of being in

1910
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:13,440
Speaker 8: a good place is that I can I can perform

1911
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 8: to the best of my ability because I'm.

1912
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 4: Hungry for the fight.

1913
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 8: You know, the opponents I've had have helped with my hunger.

1914
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 8: I have tough, dangerous opponents in front of me. I mean,

1915
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 8: you mentioned MVP. MVP is an incredible athlete. I'm so

1916
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 8: happy to have shared the ring with him. And and

1917
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 8: then you know, I mean he goes on, has two

1918
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 8: fights since we fought, and he looked great in both

1919
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 8: of them, and he's on his own journey trying to

1920
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 8: you know, reach that UFC gold and and props to

1921
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 8: him for it.

1922
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 4: I can't say that.

1923
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 8: I you know, at the end of the second round,

1924
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 8: there's the videos that BKFC has posted and it's like

1925
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 8: the end of the round and we go to our

1926
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 8: separate corners. But I think that's the end of the

1927
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 8: first round that they keep showing, because at the end

1928
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 8: of the second I remember, like, I shoulder blocked a

1929
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 8: punch and I pointed at Eddie and was like, ah,

1930
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 8: I got you. I figured out your range, and he

1931
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 8: must have been distraught going back to his corner. He

1932
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 8: felt that pain in his face and he just didn't

1933
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 8: want any more of it.

1934
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 4: And that's not fair to me.

1935
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 8: After all the shit you talk and he's still talking shit,

1936
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 8: he still thinks.

1937
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, but I did this, but I did that.

1938
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 4: But you quit.

1939
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 8: You gave up on yourself, on all the fans, on

1940
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:47,799
Speaker 8: everyone watching.

1941
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 4: You quit like a little punk ass bitch. And I

1942
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 4: am going I want my chance.

1943
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 8: And my opportunity to face a savage like myself.

1944
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 4: And now I see that in Thiago.

1945
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 8: That he will not give up, and I am going

1946
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 8: to have to make him lay down.

1947
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,520
Speaker 4: He is going to have to face the fists.

1948
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so fired up from that that speech.

1949
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 3: Right the hell yeah, Mike. I want to ask you

1950
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 3: something because what we love about you, and it does

1951
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,560
Speaker 3: seem like you are the happiest you've ever been. And

1952
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 3: I love seeing the family pictures, congratulations on the birth

1953
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 3: of your second child, everything and that, but your ability

1954
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 3: to be intense and incredible and real also mirrors up

1955
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 3: nicely with your ability to always kind of be one

1956
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 3: step ahead of us and always kind of have this

1957
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 3: comedic flare to nowhere to direct it. You mentioned Ryan

1958
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 3: Garcia ear earlier have you been following the build to

1959
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 3: that Haini fight at all? And what do you make

1960
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 3: of Ryan? Is he this maestro that's almost doing some

1961
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 3: of the skills that you're great at or do you

1962
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 3: think he was actually in his own peril and that

1963
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 3: was sort of spilling over in terms of everything mentally

1964
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 3: he was dealing with heading into that fight.

1965
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what he he threw me. For one,

1966
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 8: I thought, you know what, man, I guess. I was

1967
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 8: talking at.

1968
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 4: The barbers today and we were talking about it.

1969
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 8: Apparently he had a fight between Tank and Haini and

1970
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 8: I didn't know that. And I just remember how he

1971
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 8: performed against Tank, and I know that there was a

1972
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 8: hydration clause and they made him stay small and sucked down.

1973
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 8: Tank must be teeny tiny. And you know that's just

1974
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 8: not who we saw against seven Hany. I mean he

1975
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 8: came to fight and Hani.

1976
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 4: Was too patient, just waited too much.

1977
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 8: And I saw Haini fight Prograce live and his patients

1978
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 8: worked for him in that Progrece.

1979
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 4: Never really had the attack.

1980
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 8: And Ryan, he's got some snappy shots, and you know,

1981
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 8: I would say our technique is quite different. I like

1982
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 8: what Sean O'Malley said about Brian Garcia's game plan. I

1983
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 8: thought that was very true about how it turned his back,

1984
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 8: and I mean Matt's boxing. So you know, I just

1985
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 8: think you watch my fight on Saturday, and you're in

1986
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 8: for a different kind of show.

1987
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 3: I'm ready for this show, Knucklemania four, Saturday night, Los Angeles,

1988
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,560
Speaker 3: Thiago Alvas in front of you, Mike, I want to

1989
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 3: ask you about this growing star that you're building the

1990
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 3: second chapter to your career. Where are you at as

1991
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 3: much as you can say contractually, because if someone did

1992
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:44,839
Speaker 3: come knocking, whether that's crossover boxing, legitimate boxing, YOUFC return

1993
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 3: for the BMF. You're in a position where it could

1994
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 3: be any of these, all of the above. Are you

1995
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 3: in a position where you can capitalize on that. Are

1996
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 3: you looking to take this Thiago Alvis performance and potential

1997
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 3: win and package it into something even bigger next time around?

1998
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely, one hundred percent.

1999
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 8: Like I said, you know, I mean, I have that

2000
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 8: hit list, and I want to win this fight on

2001
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 8: Saturday and call it out in the rain and let

2002
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 8: it be known where I would want to go, and

2003
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 8: I think it will be intriguing. Obviously, A couple of

2004
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,719
Speaker 8: the names are already known on there, and then there's

2005
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 8: the third name that that no one's gonna expect. And uh,

2006
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 8: when I went on Saturday and I dropped these three names,

2007
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 8: you know, that's the lineup. That's how I want it

2008
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 8: in that order, and I want it. I want to

2009
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 8: get it done.

2010
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 4: You know. I want to get this done on Saturday. Uh,

2011
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 4: you know I don't.

2012
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 8: I'm I'm willing to sacrifice my hands in there on

2013
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 8: Saturday to get the dub, you know, And and I'm

2014
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 8: going to explode my fists on his face and if

2015
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 8: they hold together, then I'll be right back into training camp.

2016
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 4: You know, I feel.

2017
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 8: Amazing After the last fight. I definitely relaxed. I definitely

2018
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 8: went into vacation mode. I'm definitely going to do a

2019
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 8: platinum family vacation after this fight because they deserve it.

2020
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 8: Family time is much needed. But I would like to

2021
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 8: stay in shape, make a turnaround and have these big

2022
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 8: fights happen that we've been waiting on for years, and

2023
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 8: stop stop delaying on the people, And at least if

2024
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:36,440
Speaker 8: from any side that these things aren't happening, it definitely

2025
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 8: won't be my side. And besides, I have been out

2026
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 8: here getting after it. For the past couple of years,

2027
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 8: and I've been winning, and I've been you know, staying active,

2028
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 8: you know, at least two fights a year, which.

2029
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 4: Isn't isn't like oh my god.

2030
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 8: You know when I came into the UFC, I thought

2031
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 8: three times in four months.

2032
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 4: As soon as I got in, It's different.

2033
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 8: And now I'm more I can be more patient, I

2034
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 8: can take better care of my body. I can prepare

2035
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 8: myself better. I need you know, six to eight week

2036
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 8: camps is to get me into Platinum performing, you know

2037
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 8: what I mean, Like the fans deserve that I have

2038
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 8: to go through hell and training in order to give

2039
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 8: the fans to show the Mic Perry that they want

2040
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 8: to see, not just some guy who's been slacken.

2041
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 9: You know.

2042
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 8: So if I go and enjoy some family time and

2043
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 8: a Platinum vacation after this big event on Saturday, I'll

2044
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 8: be hungry to smash these other guys.

2045
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, Mike. In terms of let's compare it

2046
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: to MMA for just a second, in terms of bare

2047
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 2: knuckle training to MMA training, and then bare knuckle fights

2048
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 2: to MMA fights, can you help us understand the injury

2049
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 2: and just wear and tear differences that you've experience between them.

2050
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:08,759
Speaker 8: I would say, man, you know, like when I grappled people,

2051
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 8: always trying to wrench on your neck, always trying to

2052
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 8: get my neck, and my neck is strong, but damn.

2053
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there. You know, I'm sitting there.

2054
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 8: They got this whole person hanging off of my head

2055
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 8: and neck. And then training, you know, I always trained

2056
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 8: with the same idea and mentality that I would fight with.

2057
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 8: And I'm not giving up if you ain't got me.

2058
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 8: And you know, I get myself hurt in situations like that,

2059
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 8: or my legs. I'm not not an amazing kicker or

2060
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 8: I you know, I never really was an amazing kicker.

2061
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 8: And I used to have more flexibility in my legs.

2062
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 8: I still work on my stretching even though dude, in

2063
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 8: the boxing, I just my leg definitely tightened up, and

2064
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 8: I started making sure that I stretched out. And roadwork

2065
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 8: can hurt your knees no matter what sport you're doing.

2066
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 8: But definitely grappling, you know, having a big body run,

2067
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 8: you know, twist your legs up and try to tackle

2068
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 8: your knees could affect those and and you know, but

2069
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 8: boxing still a lot of work on the shoulders and

2070
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 8: rotator cuffs, and you still got to do pt get

2071
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 8: some cupping, get some ice bats, and and you know,

2072
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 8: just take care of yourself. Diet is a big part

2073
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 8: of it as well. You know, fighting is fighting, and

2074
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 8: I think you know Brian mentioned it. You know, I

2075
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 8: win this fight on Saturday. We're talking ko V versus

2076
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 8: BMF type.

2077
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 4: Stuff we could do.

2078
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 8: We could do a UFC return, we could do a

2079
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 8: big boxing fight.

2080
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 4: And winning is winning.

2081
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:59,640
Speaker 8: So I think I could beat anyone with the mindset

2082
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 8: that I bring into a fight, which is, you know,

2083
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 8: punch you first and ask questions later.

2084
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:11,759
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Thiago Alvez. The biggest threat

2085
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 2: that Tiago Alves poses to you is what.

2086
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 8: That big bald head man up against my hands. When

2087
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 8: I hit him in the head. You know, I got

2088
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 8: to squeeze my fist really hard, and uh he throws.

2089
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 8: You know, he throws a one, one, two a lot.

2090
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 8: Is like a pity pat jab. It's not very powerful jab,

2091
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 8: but it, you know, kind of push me around. Maybe

2092
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 8: maybe he's gonna go to the body. A lot of

2093
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 8: people haven't. I plan to go to his And I

2094
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 8: had a training partner who's a damn brick wall for so,

2095
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 8: I hit him in the body so hard and looked

2096
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 8: at him like, how did Jesus eat that right now?

2097
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 8: And he definitely did. But so I'm prepared to go

2098
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 8: to Thiago's body. You know that maybe that'll be a

2099
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 8: little softer than his head. I don't know.

2100
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 4: He looks a little fat maybe, and.

2101
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:09,640
Speaker 8: Uh, I got I gotta watch it, watch out for

2102
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 8: the upper cut.

2103
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 4: I don't think I'll be there.

2104
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 8: For the uppercut, though I'm considering based off things I've

2105
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 8: watched and seen. You know, Uh, Thiago hasn't boxed someone

2106
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 8: like me, and I think i'm because like you said

2107
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 8: about the Jake Paul thing. It's funny because and I'm

2108
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:32,719
Speaker 8: not talking about older retired fighters. I still fighting guys

2109
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 8: who got it. I'm right around their age. Jake's younger than.

2110
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 4: Me, So it's MMA fighters boxing.

2111
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 8: I think I'm the best boxer that was ever in MMA,

2112
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 8: and that's why I'm having these success and these brawling

2113
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 8: boxing matches. And you know, I've kind of warmed up

2114
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 8: to the no glove thing. Don't get me wrong, I

2115
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 8: could still throw down with the gloves, but I'm warming up.

2116
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:00,879
Speaker 4: I mean, with no gloves.

2117
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 8: It's like this is my world right here, and I'm

2118
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 8: finn to hit you with this thing and you are not.

2119
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 4: Gonna like it.

2120
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:12,799
Speaker 3: Wow, he's two percent African American and ninety eight percent

2121
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 3: dog Platinum. Mike Perry always always, as you well know,

2122
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 3: you got more from more.

2123
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 2: So this fight's at one eight five, Mike, what is

2124
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 2: what is your best weight class? You think? Where do

2125
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 2: you feel the best? Sorry about that, that's all right?

2126
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 8: Well I performed one time at one eighty five, and

2127
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 8: I felt like I was cutting weight that week. You know,

2128
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 8: I built myself up, I lifted weights, I ate a lot,

2129
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 8: three four times a day to make sure that I

2130
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 8: had ten pounds to cut at least. I did the

2131
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 8: same thing this time. Now, the difference between that fight,

2132
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 8: who was against a taller opponent. I love fighting a

2133
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:01,839
Speaker 8: taller opponent, where I haven't really liked fighting a shorter opponent.

2134
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 8: But me and Tiago are the same height, so, you know,

2135
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 8: except for my hair, I'm a little taller because he's both.

2136
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 3: But but.

2137
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 4: You know, I think i'm I'm And also Luke was bigger.

2138
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 8: Right, so he with that weight uh discrepancy, like he

2139
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Speaker 8: maybe could have put on a little bit more weight.

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Speaker 4: Uh, he was still two oh five in the ring,

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Speaker 4: and I was.

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Speaker 8: I weighed in at one eighty five. I was like

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Speaker 8: one eighty seven or one eighty eight in the ring.

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Speaker 8: So he still had lots of weight on me. And

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Speaker 8: I mean, if he could have gotten bigger, eight more,

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01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 8: been more relaxed, more comfortable, I don't know. But Kiago

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01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 8: and me, I think are were the same size. We're

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01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,679
Speaker 8: both gonna be about one eighty nine in the ring

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01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 8: after we.

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Speaker 4: Weigh in and eat all night and.

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Speaker 8: So but when I did perform there, I, in my opinion,

2152
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 8: was damn near perfect. He hit me with one left hand.

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01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 8: I took it and then I ended it, and uh,

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01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 8: you know, this time we shall see. I'm always farm

2155
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 8: big guys. I'm I'm a bitch for the heavyweight guys

2156
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 8: that I trained with because I'm fast, I'm low to

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01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 8: the ground and I.

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01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 4: Can hit about as hard as they do. So you

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Speaker 4: know that's what I goes up against. Man, I'm like

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Speaker 4: a fast heavyweight.

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Speaker 3: This is the way this is, this is the way

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01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 3: he hits like one two, it goes down.

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01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 8: There.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 4: This is the way.

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Speaker 3: Knuckle Mania four Live review this Saturday. Mike, thank you

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01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 3: for the time always mid chat with your brother. Best

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Speaker 3: of luck to you. Okay, that's Ocean.

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Speaker 4: Show on Saturday. Boys will thank you.

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Speaker 3: I'm right, yes, Luke, I gotta ask you quickly a

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01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 3: little quick. Do you care about this card Saturday night

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01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 3: on pay per view knuckle Mania four? First of all,

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01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 3: do you care?

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Speaker 2: First of all, Mike Perry is appointment viewing as far

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01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, especially in baron knuckle he is. He

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01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 2: is very very good at bar nucle sure and interviews

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Speaker 2: and interviews as well. That's right.

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01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 3: So that's the main event fight, Mike Perry against Tiago

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01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 3: alvis Co. Main event. Interesting story here. Remember Lorenzo Hunt

2180
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 3: who's tearing it up on the.

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01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 2: Bk OF He's a full on BKFC guy.

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01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 3: She's their cruiserweight and light heavyweight champion. He's gonna be

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01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 3: fighting for the heavyweight belt against the UK's Mick Tarrell.

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01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 3: Do you care? Three division champion.

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01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,799
Speaker 2: For the three belts? I kind of care, yeah.

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01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 3: Okay for or maybe that's for. There's also a heavyweight

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01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:46,680
Speaker 3: bout Ben Rothwell against Todd Duffey. Do you care about that?

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01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I like, I actually like both of those,

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01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 2: so yeah, yes, yeah.

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01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 3: Okay, former Caveman boxer Alfredo Angulo against I thought it

2191
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 3: was Joe Riggs. It's Jeremiah Riggs.

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01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 2: I cannot believe in Gulo can get a medical clearance.

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01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 3: And also they'll let him bang once more. Julian Lane also.

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01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm less interested in that. You see. BKFC also

2195
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 2: got in trouble. Front off of Sports had a They

2196
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 2: did some show in Montana recently and some guy who

2197
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 2: won who's in his forties, not some prominent guy, but

2198
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 2: just a guy in their card. Turns out he's like

2199
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Speaker 2: a member of like the Arian Well, actually, I don't

2200
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 2: want to say that. Turns out he has ties to

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01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 2: people who are like notorious Neo Nazis and or members

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01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:23,839
Speaker 2: of the various Aryan gangs.

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01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 3: Is he dating kgb Lee or is that?

2204
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't think so, No, but who knows. Right, that

2205
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 2: wasn't great that BKFC did that.

2206
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 3: Shout out to Mike Perry right there. Wow, love it,

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01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 3: love it. I'll be checking that out Saturday. What do

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01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 3: we got there? Saturday? We we have an apex one

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Speaker 3: with Nikolau versus Alex Perez.

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01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 2: Which is not a which is a fine fight, it's

2211
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 2: just a car We do have a break.

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01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 3: We do have breaking uf He's not a fine main

2213
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 3: event though, let's be fair and honest.

2214
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 2: It is not a fine main event. No, it's a

2215
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 2: fine fight, just not a fine main event fight. Very quickly,

2216
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 2: this gius is in my inbox. W W and UFC

2217
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 2: joined forces to bring NXT Battleground. I don't know what

2218
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 2: that is to the UFC Apex on Sunday, June ninth.

2219
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 3: It was reported on the dirt sheets a few weeks ago.

2220
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,759
Speaker 3: But this is interesting. We want less UFC in the Apex.

2221
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they call it out. By the way, this marks

2222
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 2: This is from the press release quote. This marks the

2223
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 2: first every doubled, first ever excuse me WWE event to

2224
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 2: be hosted at the state of the art, state of

2225
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 2: the art one hundred and thirty thousand square foot event

2226
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: and production facility, which is home to UFC Fighting eight events,

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01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,839
Speaker 2: did and weits Contender Series and more So, here's.

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01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 3: What they're probably going to do, and or at least

2229
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 3: what they hope they do, because don't forget the UFCPI

2230
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 3: is modeled after the ww Performance Center, which is in Orlando, Florida,

2231
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 3: and inside of there is where they have always shot

2232
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 3: TV for NXT and look, that's a very small warehouse,

2233
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 3: but they pack it with stands and you get a

2234
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 3: very intimate wrestling fan experience there. If they would just

2235
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 3: put more seats and put them closer to the octagon

2236
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 3: and not have like the VIP area where Paul Frickin'

2237
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 3: anka is hanging out at Zuck is over there. Like

2238
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 3: imagine if they pack the crowd, like remember the old

2239
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 3: tough fights right where you have the live, live fans

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01:42:58,439 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 3: in there.

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01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old place. I went to the old one.

2242
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 3: If they put behind Francis and brings this model in,

2243
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,600
Speaker 3: I bet you ufc adopts it. It's it's smart. You

2244
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 3: could put a couple hundred people r and make them laugh.

2245
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 2: Always said, if you're going to have it in the APEX,

2246
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 2: you can still make it an intimate theater like show

2247
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:16,679
Speaker 2: rather than just hey, we're having fights in a warehouse.

2248
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 2: Want to hang out? You know what I mean? Two

2249
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 2: different fields? Are you texting in the middle of the show.

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01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 3: I was texting my man, Bernie Barmezel pr Maven to

2251
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,759
Speaker 3: the start, Bernie thanking him for getting us. Mike Perry

2252
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,879
Speaker 3: has always loved talking to Bernie. But that's an interesting

2253
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 3: bit of news. There, there's the apex continues to find

2254
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 3: new new lives and identities here. So are you ready

2255
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 3: for the ship because I got some.

2256
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 2: Ship for Let's let's see BC's VCS.

2257
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 3: All right, let's see if we can close this, uh,

2258
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 3: this great episode with an apples.

2259
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:43,600
Speaker 2: By the way, fans have been asking what about like,

2260
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 2: let's have this talk so well, they've been asking. First

2261
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 2: of all, they've been asking about a Friday show and

2262
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 2: I've told people BC and I were talking about it,

2263
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 2: like we have to build back on. I want to

2264
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 2: add a couple elements. They're asking not so much about

2265
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 2: dead wrong, but they're asking about fans ubs. They're asking

2266
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 2: about Okay, bet, all of this is in discussion.

2267
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 3: Correct until we are able to expand. I think we

2268
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 3: should consider maybe, like we haven't done dms this week

2269
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 3: or last week due to time constraints, but what if

2270
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 3: we snuck in fan subs instead of DMS one time,

2271
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 3: if we had a lower amount of topics to talk about. Look,

2272
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 3: here's the deal. Obviously, folks, when we left in February,

2273
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 3: I have to say it one more time because people

2274
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 3: are still filling Reddit boards about this about our missed promises.

2275
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 3: We had imagined a world in which we'd come back

2276
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 3: full strength, full deal, full team, ready to implode your

2277
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 3: ear holes and your face a few of your holes actually,

2278
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 3: to be fair, right, what was that old bowling ball Techniquely,

2279
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 3: I probably went to, Yeah, the shocker. It just didn't

2280
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 3: go our way. But we are building back to there.

2281
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 3: There were things that got in the way, easy, easy

2282
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,560
Speaker 3: in terms of paperwork in corporate and stuff that just

2283
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 3: took extra time. We've been through this million times, so yes,

2284
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 3: we will get.

2285
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 2: People think we're like we're doing like you know, you

2286
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 2: know who we should fuck over mk fan.

2287
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 3: I can't believe Luke and b she didn't give us

2288
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 3: like five shows during three hundred week. I would pay

2289
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 3: me for it. I would love to.

2290
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's ways that could happen.

2291
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting there. We will be there. Okay, seriously

2292
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 3: this summer for late summer fall, like we're going to

2293
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 3: be banging hey toe, Okay.

2294
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm having I'm having a very positive feeling.

2295
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 3: Yes, So what I did is I scar with the

2296
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 3: Globe yesterday for like the highs and lows, the good,

2297
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 3: the battle books, not the one you couldn't get, and

2298
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 3: the in between. It was but it wasn't censored, right,

2299
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 3: it was a license plate that said as boss in

2300
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 3: the state of Maine.

2301
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 2: It's just did I tell you I have main plates?

2302
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, so no we didn't get censored this week.

2303
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 3: But this is all the ship you.

2304
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 2: Miss, dud our censor is back. The one who was

2305
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 2: on vacation last week.

2306
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 3: Doesn't know how many like killings in.

2307
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 2: Life next week. You should know that.

2308
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 3: When you weren't here, we fucked faces.

2309
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 10: It was.

2310
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 3: It was browsers, it was it was a lot of

2311
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 3: things going on.

2312
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 2: I basically just watched pornography on air. It was awesome.

2313
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, here we go. This one's called have you

2314
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 3: seen the ship? Luke. I could have done a whole

2315
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 3: segment on weird clips from Ryan Garcia in the last

2316
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 3: like seven days alone, But this is actually the most

2317
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 3: endearing one that I give him credit for that I

2318
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 3: watched about five million times and I think everybody else did.

2319
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 3: This is the highlight of the week from Ryan Garcia

2320
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 3: in GQ.

2321
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 2: Doing what I do.

2322
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 4: Oh right, looking nice? Okay, come through. And I don't

2323
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 4: know if Ryan Garcia he's taking a fight serious or not.

2324
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 2: Dude, it looked like a skit from the office now

2325
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 2: when you watch it back in real time or in

2326
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 2: real time, but he watch you back after the fact,

2327
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 2: I should say, you know, Ryan being in this goofy

2328
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: ass mood, I don't think.

2329
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,719
Speaker 3: It hurt There's talk about the mood.

2330
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 2: I don't think the mood in any way hurt him.

2331
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 3: When when we talked about his demeanor head of the

2332
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 3: tank fight, which was more serious and calculated, that didn't

2333
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 3: bring out the best of him. When the stage got

2334
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 3: bright and he got hit with a big shot early,

2335
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 3: it did seem more he was more focused, but he

2336
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 3: also this was about him getting his head to where

2337
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:53,560
Speaker 3: he needed to be the impossible, which is what he

2338
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 3: did on Saturday.

2339
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 2: Right.

2340
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 3: But this is his victory lifetime. He deserves it. You know,

2341
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 3: I love celebration videos with the team in the locker room.

2342
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 3: This was Ryan taking it to the showers immediately. This

2343
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 3: is the time to tough shit. Yeah, did you notice

2344
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 3: the well the violins pre fight in the locker room.

2345
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 3: I actually laughed at that, But did you know it's

2346
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 3: like you didn't actually celebrate all that much after winning,

2347
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:33,799
Speaker 3: and even in the post fight interview it was almost

2348
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 3: like this calm, almost like sociopath coolness to him. That

2349
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 3: was just sort of like, yeah, I did.

2350
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: That, you know what I'm saying, Like it was like

2351
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about that tears.

2352
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 3: I thought it would be like such a blowoff from

2353
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 3: all the pressure that he kept tight all week.

2354
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 2: I honestly think that like he's drinking this way because

2355
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 2: he's under pressure. Is that the fight itself as well

2356
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 2: as it went for him? Yes, can't relieve properly, you

2357
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,879
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, but did he earned it?

2358
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 3: Golden Boy in Oscar their survive.

2359
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 2: Which is also funny too because everyone's like all the

2360
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 2: boxing media really discounted Ryan. I'm like, dude, Ryan was

2361
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 2: on the outs with these people what five months ago.

2362
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 2: The idea that they've always had his back and they've

2363
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 2: always been in his corner, get the fuck out of

2364
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 2: here with.

2365
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 3: And told us when Ryan pulled out of that camp.

2366
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 3: The reason why, right, it was harsh and direct what

2367
01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 3: he told us, The reason why he's like it was

2368
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 3: not serious. He's getting there.

2369
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Golden Boy doesn't you know, doesn't hasn't

2370
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 2: done anything good for him. That's not what I'm saying,

2371
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,759
Speaker 2: But like this idea that they've always been in his corner.

2372
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up, No you haven't.

2373
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 3: Eddie hearn is the promoter of Devin Haney, by the way,

2374
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 3: and Henry Garcia, the father of Ryan, took the victory

2375
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 3: lap to the hallway. Did you see this?

2376
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 2: He changed tones real quick, big respect it, Ryan Garcia.

2377
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 3: He was.

2378
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 2: Really, fuck you, piece of ship, So fuck you?

2379
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 4: You know what piece and that's what you did.

2380
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 2: Now what are you gonna say, Cambo, Devin Handy, fuck you?

2381
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 5: Now?

2382
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 4: Who you got? Who you got?

2383
01:48:59,680 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 5: Who?

2384
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 4: How about God? There's a good performances. I know maybe

2385
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 4: you would expect, you know, Okay, give Ryan respect.

2386
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 3: I started zero to six.

2387
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 2: He was like who you got? He was like Jirn

2388
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 2: Ennis and he's like, how about bull? First of all?

2389
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 2: First of all, pitbull versus versus Garcia. I didn't have

2390
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:32,760
Speaker 2: thought about that. That's a crazy fight.

2391
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:34,600
Speaker 3: That would be because they could think about it. To

2392
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 3: snuff Ryan's left hook, you have to get inside, that's

2393
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 3: what That's exactly what.

2394
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 2: He's tough and as durable. He went the distance with

2395
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 2: tank folks, forget that too.

2396
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 3: Banged up.

2397
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 2: But then dude, j Nis is a whole other can

2398
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 2: of worms.

2399
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 3: I actually wish now Ryan doesn't have the title. So

2400
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:49,719
Speaker 3: there's he can call the shots in a lot of ways.

2401
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 3: But you don't need a title, just fight. Really, wouldn't

2402
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 3: that be fun?

2403
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,600
Speaker 2: Man team batship, stay.

2404
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 3: Busy and fight. I mean you'd have to bring PBC

2405
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 3: and Al Hayman. It's difficult, but it's.

2406
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 2: Honestly though, like I would, I would favor Ryan in

2407
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 2: a fight like that.

2408
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:04,799
Speaker 3: I think I would too, but it would be interesting,

2409
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 3: it would be a spectacle. Finally, Luke, this is a

2410
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:09,760
Speaker 3: badass picture. I wish I got the photographers.

2411
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 2: Uh that is so fucking amazing. Again, dude as someone

2412
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 2: who just didn't see it coming and then to see this.

2413
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 3: But that's not why I post this. Look fashion is

2414
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 3: you know in the eyes of the beholder, which I

2415
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 3: think of his crocheted boots.

2416
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 2: They were interesting, Yeah, Borro the shoes of Devin Haney,

2417
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 2: they didn't do them a whole lot of good, did it.

2418
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 3: I liked what he wore against Loma and against Pro Gray.

2419
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 3: I was hip on his kit as I liked this kid.

2420
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 2: Also, he had the shiny gloves in the Loma fight,

2421
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,640
Speaker 2: you know, the red ones that like really glisten, and

2422
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 2: he didn't have it. Looks just kind of dull this time.

2423
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 2: The whole thing was kind of dull for him. Dulta bad.

2424
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, and they're speaking of the

2425
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 3: Baddest Tour. I saw Josh grossback stage.

2426
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 2: This is U put the picture back up. That's how

2427
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 2: BC talks to the homeless in the subway.

2428
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:51,640
Speaker 3: You should see it. I got to catch up with

2429
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 3: Josh grossback stage. I haven't talked to him forever the

2430
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 3: Baddest Tour. Also, Milton was there, Milton mccroy, the boxing

2431
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:01,680
Speaker 3: coach of Logan Paul, remember him, coach Miller, trainer.

2432
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 2: The Black Ey.

2433
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that was good to see in a few

2434
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 3: Danish the girl I saw Miami was fun to catch up.

2435
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 3: But I saw I saw some old MK people. I

2436
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 3: saw Tristan in New York, did you no? But I

2437
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 3: was wondering what rabbit animals he has added to his

2438
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 3: landscape there. I love that man. Let's keep it going there, Luke,

2439
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 3: you know runaway bull clips, it's you know, we put

2440
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 3: it on there.

2441
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 2: I see them at the path station.

2442
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 3: We put it on there. Two people get handled, but

2443
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 3: I don't like them when BBLS takes smoke on that,

2444
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 3: you know, you know, Luke.

2445
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 2: What the fuck?

2446
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 3: Oh that's see yeah, you know.

2447
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Though. You feel bad for her, but

2448
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 2: it's also like, bitch, why are you running with this

2449
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 2: giant fucking animal, Like stop sucking with the She.

2450
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 3: Could just be going to the market and somebody got loose.

2451
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 2: She was an active participant in this country. You think

2452
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 2: a poor one, a poor one?

2453
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, wow, uh luke. Our fight of the week

2454
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 3: did not come in an octagon, a cage, or a ring.

2455
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 3: It came at the Nicky Mono concert in the upper deck.

2456
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh oh.

2457
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 2: Shit, now let me okay, so are Nicki Minaj f

2458
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 2: Oh whale tail there it is.

2459
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:07,759
Speaker 3: Oh, whale tail makes a big appearance.

2460
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,719
Speaker 2: Okay, So Nicki Minaj fans. They're called what barbies, barbes?

2461
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:11,719
Speaker 2: What are they called babs?

2462
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 3: I'm not in this culture something like that.

2463
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 2: They have, they have, they have a name.

2464
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 3: I'm not in the popular pop music culture anymore to

2465
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 3: understand anything.

2466
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a lot of whale Oh oh wow,

2467
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 2: like a hockey fight and a gang initiation at the

2468
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 2: same time.

2469
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 3: With the extreme pink, I thought it was more of

2470
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 3: a swifty thing, but this is this is straight do

2471
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 3: swifties fist fight.

2472
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 2: I don't think. I guess Nicki Minaj fans, they definitely

2473
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 2: get busy.

2474
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're getting after it here.

2475
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, big Bertha there, I can see what she's

2476
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 2: wearing on her undies.

2477
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 3: Does this turn you on it all? Or that just

2478
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:40,639
Speaker 3: get awkward?

2479
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to get fired, but you can imagine

2480
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 2: what my answer would be.

2481
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 3: Oh wow, all right, well that's oh look at big Birth.

2482
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 3: That was combat like. But here's the week that was

2483
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 3: elsewhere in combat sports beyond Haney Garcia, I got one

2484
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 3: for you from PFL Chicago. Not a big crowd, but

2485
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 3: there were.

2486
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 2: Some people watched it. But it was a good show.

2487
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 3: How about Musaiev given it to our boy Logan story

2488
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 3: South Dakota his own look. He may have kioed him

2489
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 3: four times in this sequence alone.

2490
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 2: I know Logan Storley, by the way, four time All

2491
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 2: American out of the University of Minnesota. He was also dude.

2492
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 3: He gave him the Dan handel for Here's the.

2493
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 2: Thing about Hussia right now, I'm not an expert. I

2494
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,320
Speaker 2: would just say I have some questions about his physique.

2495
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 2: It looks like he has potentially at some point in

2496
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 2: the past dabbled with something that affected his chest tissue.

2497
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 3: Are you talking about left nipple Guino?

2498
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, potentially. I mean I can't make a medical diagnosis,

2499
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 2: but I would have some questions about right.

2500
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I mean I've seen a man with that

2501
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 3: before that once held the title very large? Who israel Atosoyna?

2502
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 3: He did, I've got like a like a saggy eyelid,

2503
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 3: and you always make fun of me, like the whole

2504
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 3: egg chin, I don't.

2505
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a saggy eyelid. You just have

2506
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 2: a weird tech when you eat because you're fucking mutant.

2507
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:52,679
Speaker 3: That's true. I said, I have one PFL highlight, actually

2508
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 3: have a second one. You got me to look this up.

2509
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 3: You mentioned the video of Gabriel Braga whose father was murdered.

2510
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,919
Speaker 3: This was the finish in the celebration that he delivered.

2511
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 3: What was the story that was interesting?

2512
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 2: So his father had had been in his corner for

2513
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 2: other PFL fights. You could see him break down right here.

2514
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 2: His dad was in Brazil and had his bike stolen,

2515
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 2: and he went to go retrieve it. And when he did,

2516
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 2: he went to some very poor area. I believe he

2517
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 2: went to a favella and was fucking murdered for it.

2518
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 2: He was murdered. I mean, guys, I mean it's Brazil

2519
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 2: and people are gonna I just always say, if someone

2520
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 2: steals your ship, let them have it, because it's not

2521
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 2: worth your fucking life.

2522
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 3: It's only the ATV broncroway right, So.

2523
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 2: It's so serious as dude if someone like dude, if

2524
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 2: people have often said this, like if someone put a

2525
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 2: gun in your face to give him your car, I'm

2526
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 2: giving you the car. Yeah, it's not worth my life

2527
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 2: or my child's life. Anyway, poor bastard, he got murdered,

2528
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:44,160
Speaker 2: and so I think that was a due that. I

2529
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 2: think that was only maybe six or eight weeks ago.

2530
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 2: This was his first fight back without his father, and

2531
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 2: he went with the first round left hook. Good for him.

2532
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 3: That's a that's a thing I'll never not be remember

2533
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 3: when I always used the reference of Brett Favre neither

2534
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 3: Monday Night game where he just threw like five touched

2535
01:54:57,560 --> 01:55:00,040
Speaker 3: on in the first Everything was just just like and

2536
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 3: I love those moments when people get t Boater Jeremy

2537
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 3: Lynd up to like another level where.

2538
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 2: You're like insanity, why are you doing playing basketball? So well,

2539
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 2: my dad was murdered.

2540
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 3: Wow, let's keep it going here on the combat recap.

2541
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 3: Let's go to Dynasty Combat ninety one, Luke, and there's

2542
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 3: ko via.

2543
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 2: This is the sport of kings.

2544
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, via vomit.

2545
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: They caught that, That's what I point out his like,

2546
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 2: it's like, dude, you just this is the most mma

2547
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 2: puke ever because it's electric blue.

2548
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 3: Do you think it was disinfected or they just like

2549
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 3: took a towel and then they carried on.

2550
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 2: Dude, they I mean, I doubt that there was a

2551
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,040
Speaker 2: shred of disinfectant on that foot.

2552
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 3: Would you'd be upset if they had like a rabid

2553
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,840
Speaker 3: dog that was like the cage side dogs you ate it,

2554
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 3: and they just send the dog into Just look at

2555
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 3: That's what my dogs would do, right, they would yah yah?

2556
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 2: The dogs eat the puke. Dolls are disgusting animals. I

2557
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 2: love them, but they are fucking high.

2558
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 3: Wife's dog eats her own poop, Sasha, and I have

2559
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 3: lost respect for the dog because of that, and then

2560
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 3: I get yelled at for losing respect for the beloved.

2561
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 2: I had a dog who would eat my cat's feces,

2562
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, dude, oh yeah, I'd be like, dude,

2563
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 2: there's food way better than this. I don't know if

2564
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 2: you know this, but there's food way better than the

2565
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 2: feez's that comes out of this other animal.

2566
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 3: Also, this weekend karate combat gave us Luke Rockhold versus This.

2567
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 2: Is what Mike Prairie was referencing a little bit of

2568
01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:11,920
Speaker 2: a ridge hand he hit hit him with.

2569
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 3: He's unbeaten an Applebee's Luke. But Joe Shilling on the

2570
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 3: wrong end of this karate combat hey, first finish.

2571
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 2: He was exonerated for that.

2572
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not saying the guy that got it, but

2573
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 3: this was his first ko I think in like almost

2574
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 3: a decade, Luke Rockold.

2575
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 2: He had not one, I think in this fashion since

2576
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen.

2577
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 3: That wide man or David Branch, one of the David Branch.

2578
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting branch, which is, of course.

2579
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 3: So we know how much you are just so anti

2580
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 3: Ray Flores in your hate for Hasbula.

2581
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:40,160
Speaker 2: No no love Ray, don't love Hesbola.

2582
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 3: What about Hasbula's rival, Abdu Rosick. Do you have an opinion?

2583
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 2: I've only ever heard of him once in.

2584
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 3: The crowd Sbia the spot.

2585
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 2: I wudn't even known who that was, but for you.

2586
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 3: Luke Rockold's victory lap included calling out Abdu Rosick and

2587
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 3: then tossing him around like he's a toy.

2588
01:56:55,960 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 2: Luk, this is the thing is I'd call this exploit tative,

2589
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 2: but I think the guy loves it.

2590
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 3: I mean if he look, if Abdu Rosick showed up

2591
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 3: to our live show, I'd pick him up the same

2592
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:07,320
Speaker 3: way and walk around and like it. Remember when Mike Tyson.

2593
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 2: Picked up he los how I hold my daughter?

2594
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah see that's a little that's a four. Yeah, all right,

2595
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 3: there we go. Let's keep it going here. Speaking of

2596
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson, look whenber We picked up has Beulah like

2597
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:18,760
Speaker 3: a baby and tossed him.

2598
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 2: Around, I think he honestly thought that that guy was.

2599
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 3: Like a yeah, he's fighting, of course, Jake Paul July twentieth,

2600
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 3: and he's getting in shape. He showed up in his

2601
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 3: home section of Brownsville, Brooklyn, with fellow Brooklyn Night former

2602
01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 3: heavyweight champion Shannon Briggs. And I don't know what this is, Luke,

2603
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 3: but it caught the Internet's attention and I smiled a one.

2604
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 2: This is Brownsville on a Saturday, Mike, Yeah, dude, Brownsville

2605
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 2: home of the brave Brownsville. My favorite rapper is from

2606
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 2: Sean Price.

2607
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm ware of the understanding that there are levels to

2608
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 3: like tough places. You grew up in New York City,

2609
01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 3: and Brownsville is like in the extreme.

2610
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 2: It's funny. Bedford Steivestant was way Biggie was from, but

2611
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 2: that's now very, very gentrified. I don't know about Brownsville

2612
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 2: as much, but I think Jamaica Queen's is still pretty

2613
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 2: fucking rough.

2614
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for that. What about your neighborhood

2615
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:11,600
Speaker 3: in DC? Safe?

2616
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:15,880
Speaker 2: Uh, it's not Georgetown, but I wouldn't call it unsafe.

2617
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 3: All right, be careful. Lifted in the front yard, dude,

2618
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 3: you know what, so I can tell you this, you

2619
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 3: can get Monica Sellis.

2620
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 2: I actually meant to tell you about this. So I

2621
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:25,839
Speaker 2: was lifting in the front yard and my kid plays

2622
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 2: with my neighbor's kids. They have one kid that's older,

2623
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:28,960
Speaker 2: one kid that's youngest, so they all plays.

2624
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 3: They get that bitch that won't share.

2625
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's a different one. So so they

2626
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 2: come over to my house they want to play, and

2627
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 2: then the mom comes over to like come get them, like,

2628
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 2: you know, an hour later or something, and she's like, oh, yeah,

2629
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 2: here working out I'm like, yeah, I sure am. She

2630
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 2: was like, she's like, do you like working out here?

2631
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I actually feel like a psycho working

2632
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 2: out here. And she actually what she said, she goes,

2633
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 2: you know what, someone could get that impression. I actually

2634
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,920
Speaker 2: think it's very impressive, That's what she said.

2635
01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 3: Did her eyes say body? For days as she was

2636
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:57,800
Speaker 3: looking at you. Her mouth said very impressive, but her

2637
01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 3: eyes said body.

2638
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 2: I'll tell you off air can't possibly be the case.

2639
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's keep this great segment going here. Luke,

2640
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 3: you wanted elder abuse. You mentioned that last week.

2641
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 2: I want to see some old people who just get flunghed.

2642
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 3: Check out the home depot parking lot here. This is

2643
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 3: an interesting one.

2644
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 2: Oh you fucking morons, You fucking morons. Oh no, bob

2645
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 2: bit sucker dick.

2646
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that my car rthor the Orange Super No,

2647
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:26,680
Speaker 3: that's not it, that's not it. The Little fair mobile already.

2648
01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 2: There's one in my neighborhood. Someone in my neighborhood. I

2649
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 2: think it's Melissa Ethridge drives one of these.

2650
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:36,320
Speaker 3: You should come to her window. Yeah, Luke, your two

2651
01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 3: favorite things you could argue are what m M A

2652
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:41,040
Speaker 3: and metal right, and Matt Brown has put two of

2653
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 3: those three favorite things together.

2654
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 2: Brown is a legend.

2655
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 3: Don't that sounds like mega death?

2656
01:59:56,720 --> 02:00:00,920
Speaker 2: Not a bad guess, it's slayer. Okay, Uh, That's the

2657
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 2: only time I will ever accept quarter squats is when

2658
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 2: you're doing that. By the way, show one more time.

2659
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 2: Let's see. Let's see if BC knows his way around.

2660
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 10: A gym.

2661
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:22,560
Speaker 2: Is out here in front of you. This is where

2662
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 2: the handle position is, and then the weights come out lower.

2663
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:26,840
Speaker 2: It's called a safety squad bar s SB.

2664
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 3: You when we worked out together for the doc cams

2665
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 3: in Miami that time, you gave me a tutorial as

2666
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 3: if you were a community college professor.

2667
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I've got is community college level

2668
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:38,000
Speaker 2: knowledge of the gym.

2669
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:43,200
Speaker 3: They'll make bongs out of anything these days, including.

2670
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 2: They've been making bongs out of ship like including pizza.

2671
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 3: Once again, combining two of your forfeits, let.

2672
02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:51,640
Speaker 2: Me explain to you that if there was a pizza

2673
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:53,840
Speaker 2: joint that was like one of the slices in this

2674
02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:58,200
Speaker 2: pie is a makeshift ball, I'd be ordering every day.

2675
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 3: It's up to you, as the consumer to find which

2676
02:01:00,640 --> 02:01:01,120
Speaker 3: one it is.

2677
02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to have to do fucking engineering. No,

2678
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 2: send me a slice. That's a fucking ball.

2679
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:07,240
Speaker 3: In between hits. You want to take a bite out

2680
02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 3: of it.

2681
02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:08,000
Speaker 2: That's exactly.

2682
02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense, all right, Luke, this

2683
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:12,040
Speaker 3: is me when you asked me to hang out on

2684
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 3: the road happy graduation, and.

2685
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 2: He is going, you want to hang out?

2686
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 3: And he could go, oh.

2687
02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:25,880
Speaker 2: That's kind of how I felt when I left hired.

2688
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy, I think I'm the second. He graduated

2689
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 3: the second. Yeah.

2690
02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:32,000
Speaker 2: I had friends who continued on to grad school. I

2691
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 2: don't know how they did it.

2692
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 3: I was Oh, I had a lot of friends who

2693
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 3: did mushrooms on graduation on graduation day, yeah, like at

2694
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 3: the ceremony.

2695
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:42,160
Speaker 2: I was still in the Marine Corps when I graduated,

2696
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 2: so I couldn't do Yeah.

2697
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:44,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't at that level of hard drug

2698
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:46,120
Speaker 3: use at that point at seventeen.

2699
02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:49,800
Speaker 2: But that it's not doing whippits behind an RBS, which I.

2700
02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 3: Can tell you from experiences as Gladmorous as I'm an

2701
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:55,320
Speaker 3: experienced whippings. Let's go to our haircut of the week, Luke.

2702
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:57,919
Speaker 2: Just just burn this motherfucker.

2703
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 3: Which stadium is that is this? Yeah? I mean it's

2704
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:02,680
Speaker 3: it is it?

2705
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 2: I got it right?

2706
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

2707
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 2: Monka I is like one of the most famous stadiums

2708
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:08,760
Speaker 2: in soccer in the world.

2709
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 3: Is that where the brazil.

2710
02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, well Olympics played there as well.

2711
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Okay, that was your haircut of the week.

2712
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:16,240
Speaker 3: We got to skip your ass boss license plate of

2713
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 3: the week. But we can go on to the next

2714
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:20,920
Speaker 3: thing of the week. How about t shirt?

2715
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:24,280
Speaker 2: Is a overweight lady with the Cubs jersey on and

2716
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 2: a shirt that says I'm here for the gang Bang?

2717
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:32,240
Speaker 2: Well that's why that guy threw up electric dude? Could

2718
02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 2: you do? What would it take for you to join

2719
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:34,200
Speaker 2: in this?

2720
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:36,600
Speaker 3: She was she in your Marine Corps group?

2721
02:02:36,760 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 2: No, she's too overweight to But that is a similar

2722
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:41,320
Speaker 2: kind of experience.

2723
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:44,280
Speaker 3: A regional mm A moment of the week, Luke, I

2724
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:46,880
Speaker 3: forgot what this is, but I wrote down Diddy celebration.

2725
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:49,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, watch she gets behind him here you'll see.

2726
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:53,840
Speaker 3: Oh this is like yeah wow, but you.

2727
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:56,040
Speaker 2: Know what again, I cannot tell you. I spent the

2728
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 2: first fifteen years of my career in people like MMA

2729
02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:00,720
Speaker 2: is so gay. I'd be like you out of your mind. No,

2730
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 2: it's not. Let me explain something to you. Mma is

2731
02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:03,240
Speaker 2: the gayest sport?

2732
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:05,640
Speaker 3: Well you Craig Jones and alchemy, it's the gay dude.

2733
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:08,480
Speaker 2: Look at this. It's so homo erotic. This and jiu

2734
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:11,160
Speaker 2: jitsu are the two absolute gayest sports a lot.

2735
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 3: Okay, that would be our last episode, But before we do,

2736
02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:15,840
Speaker 3: here's your poor parenting move of the week.

2737
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:28,120
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus fucking Christ, lady, oh humbles that that kid

2738
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:30,080
Speaker 2: hold on to your kids.

2739
02:03:29,720 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 3: When you day drink at the old Uh yeah.

2740
02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 2: That you gotta be on your p's and fucking cue.

2741
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:36,280
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, how many YouTube subs do we need

2742
02:03:36,320 --> 02:03:38,440
Speaker 3: to get to before you are willing to try this

2743
02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:40,960
Speaker 3: in public where we both are willing to.

2744
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:43,640
Speaker 2: Have clear the dance for white boys got.

2745
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:45,880
Speaker 3: Any time of our life like we've never felt.

2746
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 2: Oh is he about to go eat some dirt?

2747
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 7: All?

2748
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 2: Fuck me? Right?

2749
02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:50,920
Speaker 3: All shit?

2750
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:55,200
Speaker 2: The white boys have swag. Oh he cleared THO suck

2751
02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 2: the landing too.

2752
02:03:56,240 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 3: No one got injured. Look this could be us one day.

2753
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 2: First of all, barstool Albany is the only thing going

2754
02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 2: on in Albany. I just want to point that out.

2755
02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:06,280
Speaker 2: Second of all, I gotta say, look, he tucked in

2756
02:04:06,280 --> 02:04:09,360
Speaker 2: the shirt beforehand. The Hawks pulled it off. Well done.

2757
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 2: You know, I normally have to clown the Whites on

2758
02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:12,320
Speaker 2: this show, but I gotta give him my hand on

2759
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:13,760
Speaker 2: this one. That was actually well done.

2760
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:17,280
Speaker 3: Luke, There's very different variations of American Pro football. Have

2761
02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:19,800
Speaker 3: you ever played Capture the Hog before?

2762
02:04:21,160 --> 02:04:23,600
Speaker 2: Is that like a Okay, what are we doing here?

2763
02:04:26,960 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 3: And capture the hog? That's a tackle? He's down here?

2764
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, capture the Hog? Yeah. I don't know if I

2765
02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 2: want to play a game that's predicated on sexual harassment.

2766
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:36,960
Speaker 3: And finally, Luke, we had a big fight announcement coming

2767
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:39,080
Speaker 3: up and Saudi in a few months when on the

2768
02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 3: undercard we see Deontay Wilder against Julai Big Bang Zang

2769
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:47,720
Speaker 3: and they teed up Old Big Bang before we play this.

2770
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 2: Let me just say this. I'm not gonna spoil it.

2771
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:51,760
Speaker 2: I cannot believe that they did this.

2772
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:54,960
Speaker 3: Is he in on the joke?

2773
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 2: Campy camp Let's go to the videotape Chinese Power, Buy

2774
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:11,480
Speaker 2: My Power. We're green Pool, Ben, Hey, this is this

2775
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:14,160
Speaker 2: is Brian Campbell. In every meeting we have about the

2776
02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:16,480
Speaker 2: future of MK, we are going to buying each other.

2777
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:19,040
Speaker 3: I mean, really, all you ever hear from our angry fans,

2778
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:20,560
Speaker 3: and we had a lot of them during our time off.

2779
02:05:20,720 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 3: Was one of these two just gonna gonna put their

2780
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 3: put the arms down in banks, you know there you go.

2781
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Speaker 2: First, Well, big bang saying might win that fucking fight.

2782
02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:29,040
Speaker 3: It's gonna be it. There's a lot of pressure.

2783
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm actually like, of all the fights on that

2784
02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:32,840
Speaker 2: prelim card, well not premim card, but the main card whatever,

2785
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:34,480
Speaker 2: the five and five not counting the main.

2786
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:36,360
Speaker 3: Did you like when they showed up with like the

2787
02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:37,720
Speaker 3: movie hockey masks with like.

2788
02:05:37,720 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 2: The I'm telling you, I'm telling you what sportswa washing everything.

2789
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's not a relevant conversation if I'm

2790
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 2: just saying, though, what has Saudi money done to in

2791
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:52,040
Speaker 2: particular heavyweight boxing, but boxing more generally, Dude, it has.

2792
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:54,959
Speaker 2: It has been incredible what they've.

2793
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:56,880
Speaker 3: Done in Two saudy adjustments to speak of from Turkey

2794
02:05:56,920 --> 02:05:59,520
Speaker 3: Ala chik here before we close one, he announced on

2795
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:01,640
Speaker 3: Twitter that he's now going to target the smaller weight

2796
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:04,760
Speaker 3: classes like below welterweight all the way down, which is interesting.

2797
02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:08,400
Speaker 3: Two he's partnering. Did you see he posted that picture

2798
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:11,400
Speaker 3: with him and Louis Da Cubis Junior who more or

2799
02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:14,160
Speaker 3: less works for this PBC right forrel Hayman, and it

2800
02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:16,800
Speaker 3: looks like him he's going to bring his first fight

2801
02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:19,080
Speaker 3: card to the States in Los Angeles and do Terrence

2802
02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:23,440
Speaker 3: Crawford against uh Madromov for the for one of those titles.

2803
02:06:23,960 --> 02:06:25,720
Speaker 3: That's that's an interesting development.

2804
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 2: How good is Maroov?

2805
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:28,760
Speaker 3: He's good? I mean he's not Terrence Craft for good.

2806
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:30,360
Speaker 3: I like the idea that Crawford's moving up in wig

2807
02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:31,600
Speaker 3: and by the way, he's not young. It's been a

2808
02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:34,000
Speaker 3: long time since he fought Spence. It's an interesting matchup.

2809
02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:37,440
Speaker 3: But this is this is we always said you can

2810
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:39,560
Speaker 3: do big things in Saudi Arabia and there's us as

2811
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:40,840
Speaker 3: long as the money lasts, and it looks like it

2812
02:06:40,840 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 3: can last for a while. But like we're not using PBC.

2813
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:45,160
Speaker 3: What's going on? Is this the beginning of chopping that

2814
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:48,680
Speaker 3: door down? Could we get Tank against Haney or taking

2815
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 3: I mean not Haney anymore after that? You know what

2816
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:51,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But like the fights that we thought were

2817
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:56,120
Speaker 3: going to be too hard to make because somebody's gonna

2818
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 3: demand a side money when there's only a certain amount

2819
02:06:58,240 --> 02:07:00,760
Speaker 3: of money, right, you know, what I'm saying, Saudi fill

2820
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:03,120
Speaker 3: that gap where we can finally see Tank against all

2821
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 3: the people that they think he's not fighting.

2822
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 2: Right? Is this? I don't know, but I certainly hope.

2823
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:12,240
Speaker 2: Also he also he said he's targeting Crawford versus Ennis.

2824
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:16,360
Speaker 2: Maybe he publicly said it. He wants to have Bud

2825
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:19,920
Speaker 2: Crawford fight Geron Ennis. I gotta tell you, Like Andis

2826
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 2: versus Ryan Garcia would be big, but I would rather

2827
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:26,040
Speaker 2: see Crawford fight him.

2828
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:28,240
Speaker 3: Of course, we'd all see rather see them fight each

2829
02:07:28,240 --> 02:07:29,880
Speaker 3: other and at one forty seven, although I don't know

2830
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 3: if that's possible anymore. But did you hear what Boots

2831
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:34,080
Speaker 3: said in his initial media to after signing with Eddie

2832
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:34,880
Speaker 3: Hernet Metrim Sport.

2833
02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:35,080
Speaker 6: No.

2834
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:38,480
Speaker 3: He said that he sees his career ending with a

2835
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 3: light heavyweight championship win one seventy five five in winning

2836
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:46,960
Speaker 3: titles in each division on the road to getting there.

2837
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:48,840
Speaker 2: That seems ambitious.

2838
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 3: That is ambitious as shit? Now, is it? Is it

2839
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 3: different than like Oscar de la Hoya going as high

2840
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:55,800
Speaker 3: as one sixty and starting out at like one thirty.

2841
02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:58,480
Speaker 3: I mean, Manny's starting out at one oh six and

2842
02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:00,000
Speaker 3: topping off at one fifty. I mean, there's been a

2843
02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 3: credible leaps Roy Jones brand, but this is uh yeah,

2844
02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:05,760
Speaker 3: I'm shaking the tick because I'm just table to watch it.

2845
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,080
Speaker 2: You know, if you can hear it, can you hear it?

2846
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:09,200
Speaker 2: Like it? It's rattles in it mix.

2847
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:10,800
Speaker 3: We're going to work on that. But that is the

2848
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 3: show for this week. And I think you know, we

2849
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 3: had the three hundred recap last week that did crazy numbers.

2850
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:17,840
Speaker 3: Thank you everybody for tuning in. I think we're on

2851
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:20,000
Speaker 3: a good momentum swing as we continue to build. And

2852
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:23,560
Speaker 3: by the way, a week from this week is Canelo

2853
02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:26,120
Speaker 3: versus Mongia PBC on Prime Video.

2854
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:27,320
Speaker 2: And well, fight week isn't a week.

2855
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, week from today is the start of that fight week,

2856
02:08:30,040 --> 02:08:32,520
Speaker 3: which is a great fight. By the way, we're gonna

2857
02:08:32,840 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 3: we're looking at We're fitting to be there in Las Vegas.

2858
02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:35,480
Speaker 2: I say we're going to be there, yeah, so it

2859
02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:36,200
Speaker 2: should be a lot of fun.

2860
02:08:36,240 --> 02:08:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2861
02:08:36,440 --> 02:08:37,920
Speaker 2: By the way, also it's the same day as USC

2862
02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:40,280
Speaker 2: three to oh one. Yes, we have to figure out

2863
02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 2: what we're going to do our coverage.

2864
02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:42,800
Speaker 3: Which is one of the right now unless they put

2865
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:45,120
Speaker 3: Potata Pereira on there, it is one of the worst

2866
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:46,720
Speaker 3: pay per view cards on paper. Ever, we have to

2867
02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 3: be honest, just be honest about that.

2868
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:49,640
Speaker 2: I will be honest that the pay per view card

2869
02:08:49,800 --> 02:08:51,880
Speaker 2: is not inspiring, but I will say that the main

2870
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:57,600
Speaker 2: event is actually very good. Yes, a question of should

2871
02:08:57,600 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 2: it be a main event, I don't know. But is

2872
02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:03,200
Speaker 2: is Pantojia versus Sag a good fight? Yes? It is

2873
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:03,680
Speaker 2: a good fight.

2874
02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:05,880
Speaker 3: What is your early movement on Jose Aldo coming back

2875
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:07,920
Speaker 3: against what is it Jonathan Martinez?

2876
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? I kind of like I think Martinez will be

2877
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 2: up against it and it like I thought, even with

2878
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:14,000
Speaker 2: the time off, But I don't hate it. I don't

2879
02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:14,360
Speaker 2: hate it.

2880
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:17,320
Speaker 3: There you go. That's the show for weeks. Follow us

2881
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:19,400
Speaker 3: on socials if you can drop the Socials up there,

2882
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:21,840
Speaker 3: Long Island, Luke. Look, we know there was a gap,

2883
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:24,320
Speaker 3: right we were gonna have to rebuild, but we're getting

2884
02:09:24,360 --> 02:09:26,520
Speaker 3: momentum again. We're building and it's all because of you fans,

2885
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:29,000
Speaker 3: and we are going to bring fan subs back soon.

2886
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:29,880
Speaker 3: Let's work on this one.

2887
02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:31,640
Speaker 2: And also to remind everyone, if you didn't catch the

2888
02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:34,240
Speaker 2: live show, which everyone can on YouTube YouTube dot com

2889
02:09:34,240 --> 02:09:36,040
Speaker 2: Slash Morning Combat, you can catch us on the DraftKings

2890
02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:40,040
Speaker 2: Network five pm in the East today on Monday.

2891
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:41,640
Speaker 3: Fantastic.

2892
02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 2: This is great. Would you do with the rest of

2893
02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:45,560
Speaker 2: your day. I'm gonna sit on the train for four hours.

2894
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:47,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back and see my family. I've been

2895
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:49,040
Speaker 3: gone for eight days and we were on family vacation

2896
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:51,120
Speaker 3: for the week before that, so my aunt, I missed

2897
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:54,080
Speaker 3: my animals. You know what I mean, A real man realizes.

2898
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:55,960
Speaker 2: To sit down with him and eat some feces together.

2899
02:09:55,800 --> 02:09:58,120
Speaker 3: Probably, but no, Reggie Jackson, you know, he needs his

2900
02:09:58,160 --> 02:09:59,960
Speaker 3: dad in his life and I respect that. You know,

2901
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:02,680
Speaker 3: he's the single bomb. Thing isn't fully working out for.

2902
02:10:02,680 --> 02:10:04,360
Speaker 2: Him, you know. All right, very good, we'll.

2903
02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:07,920
Speaker 3: Take us out. Yeah, all right, thank you to Long Island,

2904
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:09,360
Speaker 3: Luke and the great new team. Here I metal lock

2905
02:10:09,400 --> 02:10:13,400
Speaker 3: behind you. We saw Jake von Amsterdam is here filming

2906
02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:16,320
Speaker 3: content for a future something I don't want to teach people.

2907
02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:18,240
Speaker 2: He's the one. If you're asking who this is, this

2908
02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:21,040
Speaker 2: is the guy that filmed we meant many things, the

2909
02:10:21,040 --> 02:10:23,080
Speaker 2: documentaries where we went to the house and everything, like,

2910
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:24,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how there could be some new people.

2911
02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2912
02:10:25,040 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 3: I just want to that's true. We still have these

2913
02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:30,720
Speaker 3: very forgettable YouTube dot Com slash Morning Combat. We still

2914
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,440
Speaker 3: have the full documentary series. If you missed that seven episodes,

2915
02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:37,160
Speaker 3: go check that out. For everybody here, Luke Thomas, Long Island,

2916
02:10:37,240 --> 02:10:39,480
Speaker 3: Luke all our great Steph Matt Snyder. We love that

2917
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:42,680
Speaker 3: guy too. Thank you to everybody. And a week from

2918
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:44,320
Speaker 3: today we will be back and we will be set

2919
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 3: in the stage for Canela Mongia. We'll be recapping the

2920
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:49,280
Speaker 3: UFC Fight Night card, previewing you three oh one, and

2921
02:10:49,320 --> 02:10:51,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna be back and ready to bang two. So

2922
02:10:51,240 --> 02:10:54,480
Speaker 3: that's it, Big beg Zang. We are here to bang

2923
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:55,440
Speaker 3: each other.

2924
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Speaker 2: We are