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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we be on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, ready to take you through some

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Speaker 2: more analysis of this upcoming Divisional playoff. Players on the

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Speaker 2: practice field, It is not a walk through. It is

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Speaker 2: more of a regular practice as the bodies, you know,

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Speaker 2: they're trying to give them as many days as they can,

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Speaker 2: especially on a short week, to kind of heal up

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Speaker 2: feel better before they get back to gameplan and installation

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Speaker 2: for this week. And quite frankly, that's the advantage when

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Speaker 2: you're the number one seed. You don't play the first week,

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Speaker 2: you sit at home, you rest your body, and you

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Speaker 2: feel a lot fresher. I would say the freshest pair

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Speaker 2: of legs out there on the practice field probably belonged

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Speaker 2: to Curtis Samuel and Ed Oliver. Yeah, they haven't done

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Speaker 2: a whole lot lately.

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Speaker 3: It's not like they've been sitting on the couch, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: they've been getting ready. It's different when you don't have

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Speaker 3: to play games. Yeah, I'm sure they're both chomping at

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Speaker 3: the bit wanting to play, no question about it, But

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Speaker 3: whether they're going to be able to or.

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Speaker 2: Not as a whole. Now another question because we don't

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Speaker 2: know yet. So got a story to share? Oh all right,

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Speaker 2: So I'm part of this like guys book club. It's

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Speaker 2: called a book We call it book pub because we

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Speaker 2: always meet it a pub after we read a book.

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Speaker 2: So I got a I get you know, so we

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Speaker 2: got this book like three months ago. I got three

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Speaker 2: months to read this thing.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: It's the middle of the season, though, so I'm struggling.

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Speaker 2: So I get the notice, Hey, one week from today,

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Speaker 2: you know, we got the you know, we got to

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Speaker 2: meet up whatever whatever. So you went out and bought

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Speaker 2: the book, and I'm like, no, Like, I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to have a chance to read this thing.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, let me get the audiobook and

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Speaker 2: then when I'm driving to and from work in the car,

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Speaker 2: I'll just play it and you know, I'll get through it,

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Speaker 2: you know, so I can have somewhat of an intelligent conversation.

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Speaker 2: So I'm racing to finish this thing so much so

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Speaker 2: that I've got it on audio on the audiobook thing

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Speaker 2: at like one point three speed, so the guy's zipping through,

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Speaker 2: like the narrator is zipping through this book. Still didn't

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Speaker 2: finish it. I got three quarters of the way through.

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Speaker 2: So I walk in and you know, a bunch of

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Speaker 2: the guys are there. I'm standing there and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: what'd you think of the book? And I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: I didn't finish it. I only got third three quarters

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Speaker 2: of the way through. They're like, oh, where are you?

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Speaker 2: I said, well, I'm right at the place where you know,

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Speaker 2: the main character gets kidnapped. Well of the guy just

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Speaker 2: looks at me, he goes, what book are you reading?

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Speaker 2: I had the wrong damn book? Wa wait what so now?

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Speaker 2: So the funny thing was the book I was supposed

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Speaker 2: to read everybody hated it. Oh so I felt good

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Speaker 2: about that. But well, needless to say, I wasn't a

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Speaker 2: big part of the conversation. It was a very short

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Speaker 2: conversation about the book because I guess it was that bad.

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Speaker 2: So my title was very close to the title of

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Speaker 2: the book I was supposed to read. But now now

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Speaker 2: I got to finish my book, Like, I gotta find

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Speaker 2: out what happened to this guy right after he's kidnapped.

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Speaker 2: Three quarters Yeah, it's like you know, post to pop,

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Speaker 2: post apocalyptic, you know, United States or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I gotta find out what happens. So the funniest thing

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Speaker 2: think you should read your book. So, I mean, we

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Speaker 2: racing to finish this thing and it's the wrong dang book.

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Speaker 3: I'm such a stooge that that's like the old ad

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Speaker 3: is you know, you climb the ladder of success only

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Speaker 3: to find out it's leaning against the wrong wall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was. Yeah, I was definitely leaning against

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Speaker 2: the wrong walls. I still am. But I'm I'm plowing through.

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Speaker 2: out that. Yeah, exactly, I want to figure out this

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Speaker 2: I felt like such a dope. So then we at

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Speaker 2: the end, we you know, we got to pick the

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Speaker 2: next book. So I look at the guy that kind

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Speaker 2: I don't screw this up again. How did you make

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Speaker 2: that mistake?

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Speaker 2: So the book we were supposed to red was called

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Speaker 2: talking about his experiences as a postal worker, like just

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Speaker 2: a stream of consciousness, first person thing like not oh

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Speaker 2: like it was there was no story arc like, oh,

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Speaker 2: no twists and turns. It was just a guy complaining

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Speaker 2: a philanderer, among other things. So it was just they

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Speaker 2: said it was a terrible, terrible. I read or finishing

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Speaker 2: The Postman, so it was supposed to be The post Office.

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Speaker 2: I read The Postman, so I was close. I was

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Speaker 2: in the vicinity. Is there a movie the Postman? Maybe

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Speaker 2: there is. I think there is motion picture so I

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Speaker 2: Somebody told me that last night. Once they had said that,

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, that's right, there was a movie.

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Speaker 2: I could have just watched the dang movie, you know,

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Speaker 2: and cheated that way. But I was figuring, let me

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Speaker 2: at least try to get through the audio book. And

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Speaker 2: because I'll be honest with you, I'm totally old school.

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Speaker 2: That's the first audiobook I've ever listened to. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I usually read the book. You podcaster though too. I

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Speaker 2: Cast her very different than books. I get that. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: but like I've never done the audiobook thing. Like my

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Speaker 2: like six years old, she plows through books. That big deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's if you if you old school, right,

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Speaker 1: and if you do have time like that and in

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Speaker 1: a situation where you can flip on the audiobook and

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Speaker 1: just go, it's it's a good way to go.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good way to go. So I'm a stooge,

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Speaker 2: but I may have actually had the better of the

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Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe it worked out for me.

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Speaker 2: Well there you go. Well I'll find out when I

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Speaker 2: get to the end of this thing if it was

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Speaker 2: the juice was worth the squeeze on this book because

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Speaker 2: it's like it was like a nine hour audiobook read.

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Speaker 2: So it's long, like thet is nine hours.

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Speaker 3: The one Oh the Postman? Yeah, yeah, Okay, was it

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Speaker 4: Do you remember?

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Speaker 3: I didn't see it at all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't see it, remember, I kind.

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Speaker 3: Of would have wanted to, but I didn't interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was it who read it? Was it the author

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's some narrator. And I guess now, some

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Speaker 2: of these audiobook services they just have an AI voice narrated.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's cheaper.

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Speaker 2: It's cheaper, and it I mean it sounds like a human,

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Speaker 2: like it's you know, they he can't tell so and

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Speaker 2: It's like I said, I'm new to it. So it

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Speaker 2: was kind of interesting to hear that. That's that makes

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Speaker 2: some sense. Yeah, so my misstep may may actually benefit

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Speaker 2: me in the long run here based on how the

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Speaker 2: other book was pretty awful. So in any event, we

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Speaker 2: got to get to this week's game, and the proud

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Speaker 2: to the Bills practice updates which are presented by leecom

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Speaker 2: your Lake Erie College of Ossiopathic Medicine, and came down

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Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon when coach addressed the media and the news

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Speaker 2: was not good concerning the diagnosis for wide receiver Tyrrel

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Speaker 2: Shavers and the injury suffered in the wild card game

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Speaker 2: at Jacksonville last week. He gets diagnosed with a torn acl,

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Speaker 2: so he and Gabe Davis both done for the season.

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Speaker 2: The miraculous thing is Tyrrel Shavers played the entire second

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Speaker 2: half with a torn acl on Sunday. It's a heroic effort.

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Speaker 2: That's commitment, man, It's heroic effort. Holy cow's you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that It typifies what Shavers has gone through just

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Speaker 3: to get on the field and on the roster.

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Speaker 2: He's been here. This is third year here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he has been on the practice squad doing like,

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Speaker 3: not even playing, just practicing for two or three years.

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Speaker 3: He had talked to him and he talks like an

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'm here in studio earlier this season just

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Speaker 2: all about it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's on it and attacking it on every front,

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, not only is he playing,

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Speaker 3: It typifies how badly he wanted to stay out there.

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Speaker 3: And when you work that hard and go through what

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's he heroic. He set out a thank

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Speaker 2: you tweet to the fans that have been sending him messages.

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Speaker 2: He said, thank you for all the messages, thoughts and prayers.

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Speaker 2: I'll never question God and always keep faith in his plan,

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Speaker 2: not mine. Love you all, Bill's mafia. There is no

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Speaker 2: testimony without a test I'll be back soon. So he's

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Speaker 2: got the right attitude, So kudos to him and the

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Speaker 2: approach he's taking there. Buffalo did add wide receiver Christian

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Speaker 2: Wilkerson to the practice squad. He was with the club

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Speaker 2: all off season and training camp, and for the first

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Speaker 2: half of the season he was on the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: He could fill a lot of the same roles that

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Speaker 2: Shavers does at receiver and on special teams and Steve,

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Speaker 2: I know you liked him. He is a rocked up dude,

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Speaker 2: like a block. He can do that.

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Speaker 3: He's Yeah, he's built like a running back, but he's

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Speaker 3: six too. Yeah, he's built like a Saquon Barkley type guy.

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Speaker 3: He's thick, he's muscley. He's been playing and he played

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Speaker 3: in the USFL, not USA UFLU, so he's been hanging

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Speaker 3: around and he was I liked what I saw from

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Speaker 3: him in training camp, but I you know, it's he's

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Speaker 3: the field, what he's got going on. But we're watching

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Speaker 3: a shot in the highlight of him from the preseason

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Speaker 3: when he caught a ball, and yeah, so he's not unknown,

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Speaker 3: and I like his I like the way he's put together,

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Speaker 3: but you know, he's still gotta you gotta come out

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Speaker 3: and play. There's a reason he wasn't on the practic

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Speaker 3: either he's they're trying to fix that, or he's got

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Speaker 2: He's got some work to do. The Bills also opened

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Speaker 2: the practice window, have curd as Samuel as we told

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, and the Broncos' injury report is a short one.

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Speaker 3: It's a bad day for to be an NFL coach.

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Speaker 2: It's too bad. Yeah, it's rough. Our practice eyes are

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they'll probably have him on a rep can.

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Speaker 5: of get him to have a problem or what do

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Speaker 5: you what do you think about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they're healthier and that's always a benefit.

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Speaker 2: Much like we've been talking about, you know, the potential

435
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Speaker 2: of Ed Oliver getting back in the lineup. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're getting. You're saying, like twist

437
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Speaker 2: him up and re injure the shoulder, Like is that

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Speaker 2: what you're talking I mean, I don't know. He's gone,

439
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Speaker 2: So you're just gonna play your best. I mean that's

440
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Speaker 2: really all you're trying to do here. You know, Powers

441
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Speaker 2: was a high pick and you know he's been in

442
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Speaker 2: the league for a few years now. Good player. I

443
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Speaker 2: mean he's in his seventh year out of Oklahoma. He's

444
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Speaker 2: big dude, six four, three thirty eight. Their center's a

445
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Speaker 2: little bit younger, Alex Forsyth. So yeah, we'll see. They

446
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Speaker 2: got a good group. Yeah, Jarrick Bowles is their best

447
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Speaker 2: offensive linemans that are left tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got some guys that are getting healthy and

449
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Speaker 3: they're the same as any other teams. Guys who've been

450
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Speaker 3: out on ir come back and.

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Speaker 2: Played and played well.

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Speaker 3: The Bills have had guys bumped back into the lineup

453
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Speaker 3: and then leave again, then come back in the lineup.

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Speaker 3: You know they're gonna get Drake Greenlaw back into the

455
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Speaker 3: game this week, looks like anyway, probably you know, the

456
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Speaker 3: really good linebacker in the run game for them, good

457
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Speaker 3: linebacker overall. So it's you're gonna they're gonna line up

458
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Speaker 3: with guys, and I would imagine as most teams at

459
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Speaker 3: this point, whoever the Bills throw out there at wide

460
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Speaker 3: receiver and replacing Gabe Davis and Terrell Shavers, the guys

461
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Speaker 3: are gonna put out there have taken reps and been

462
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Speaker 3: in games this year at some point for the Bills.

463
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Speaker 3: The same thing's gonna happen with the Denver Broncos. Whoever

464
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Speaker 3: they got on their rosters played some snaps this year's

465
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Speaker 3: not gonna be a guy off the street. So they're

466
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Speaker 3: gonna have a good hand on what those guys can

467
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Speaker 3: do and what they cannot do. It's up to the

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Speaker 3: other team to figure out if there are any limitations

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Speaker 3: with those guys.

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Speaker 2: On the field. Gotta take a break here, but we're

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Speaker 2: wide open for your phone call, so we'll take more

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Speaker 2: of them when we get back. Second hour of the show.

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Speaker 2: We expect to have Bill Center, Connor McGovern in studio

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Speaker 2: with us fresh off the practice field, so stay tuned

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Speaker 2: for that in the second hour of the show. Taking

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Speaker 2: a break here, your call's next on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Killida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Back here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you

479
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Speaker 2: on Wednesday and gonna get right back to the phones

480
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Speaker 2: where we are asking you what part of the Bills

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Speaker 2: must be productive against the Broncos on Saturday. And leading

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Speaker 2: us off here in this segment is Ryan in Toronto.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Ryan, Chris Steve?

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Speaker 9: Long time? How you get doing?

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Speaker 2: Doing good? Good to hear from you again.

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Speaker 9: Oh awesome. Sorry, I went away for a week and

487
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Speaker 9: uh mid our issue, so that's why I could call

488
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Speaker 9: you guys. Anyhow, I think my biggest concern the element

489
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Speaker 9: should be the sports science team for the Bills. I

490
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Speaker 9: remember when Bills traveled to jackson to London to play Jacksonville.

491
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Speaker 9: They got destroyed by Jacksonville. I don't know. I don't

492
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Speaker 9: know the time differential or the traveler what O the

493
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Speaker 9: cads might be same thing in with Denver, the altitude,

494
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Speaker 9: the time deferensial, early James showed me travel this back

495
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Speaker 9: and forth. I just hold the sports science guys are

496
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Speaker 9: on top of this. That's all I gotta say. Guys,

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Speaker 9: have a great day enjoying.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Ryan. Yeah he's worried about the altitude, Steve, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which you kind of. It's real. I just missed to

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Speaker 2: some degree.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to totally poop poop because it affects

502
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Speaker 3: different guys differently. You know, it never it never bothered me,

503
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Speaker 3: but it did bother some and I've heard other guys say, yeah,

504
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: it's it's hard to do, and they've had trouble acclimating.

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Speaker 3: I think sports science is at a point now where

506
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Speaker 3: they can take I think one of the things I've

507
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Speaker 3: heard and I can't remember. I don't know all the

508
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Speaker 3: ins and outs of it, but if hydration is a

509
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Speaker 3: real issue, particularly when you fly, and apparently and obviously

510
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Speaker 3: that since you're you're high anyway, it's just it's important

511
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Speaker 3: to stay hydrated when you're up there, when you're off

512
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Speaker 3: the plane in mile high stadium. So all that stuff

513
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Speaker 3: is is well documented, it's been studied, but like I said,

514
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Speaker 3: in football, I think it takes a lot longer for

515
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Speaker 3: that altitude to manifest itself in exhaustion because of the

516
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Speaker 3: anaerobic nature of the sport. It's a short burst, a

517
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Speaker 3: quick rest, a short burst and a quick rest. And

518
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Speaker 3: what it does is that like when you when you

519
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Speaker 3: explode in athletics, you know in football, and then stop

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Speaker 3: and rest, walk back to the huddle, the trough of

521
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Speaker 3: your your heart rate and everything goes down, your breathing

522
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Speaker 3: calms down. You just you get rested right between those plays.

523
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Speaker 3: But that at altitude, you don't go all the way

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Speaker 3: to the bottom of the truck. You don't recover that

525
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 3: far or as far as you normally do, and then

526
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Speaker 3: it comes back up and you explode again. You come back,

527
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Speaker 3: and then of course as the game wears on, as

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Speaker 3: it does normally at sea level, the trough gets shallower

529
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Speaker 3: and shallower because you're exhausted and you get you can't

530
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Speaker 3: you're too tired to recover fully because you've been exerting

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Speaker 3: all day. So those troughs get flatter and flatter, and

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Speaker 3: that I think that's exacerbated by the altitude. So maybe

533
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Speaker 3: it happens a little faster, maybe you get maybe the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarters are really a little bit tougher to play

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Speaker 3: well in but I think because of the nature of football,

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Speaker 3: you don't see it have as much of an effect

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Speaker 3: as you would say in a game like basketball or hockey.

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Speaker 2: Even Yeah, let's go to Jordan out in LA. What's

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Speaker 2: up Jordan?

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Speaker 10: Hey, Chris, say Steve, how are you good?

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Speaker 7: Before I answer your question of the day here, Chris,

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Speaker 7: I got to tell you I've watched the video of

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Speaker 7: you guys in the boost celebrating a few times, and

544
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Speaker 7: just what a video.

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Speaker 11: I mean, the passion, the excitement, I mean, it's just

546
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Speaker 11: such a great video of you guys in the booth

547
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Speaker 11: so and I love listening to you call the games.

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Speaker 7: Keep the enthusiasm going.

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Speaker 11: In regards to the elements that's got to be productive,

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Speaker 11: I think one thousand percent it's got to be the

551
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Speaker 11: offensive line for multiple reasons. One, we got to get

552
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Speaker 11: cut going, obviously, especially against this defense. But more importantly,

553
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Speaker 11: Josh is so banged up that you know, they got

554
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Speaker 11: to keep him up right and hopefully he doesn't get

555
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Speaker 11: himself beat up because obviously he likes to play Superman.

556
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Speaker 11: But more importantly, with their secondary and their pass rush,

557
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Speaker 11: I think offensive line has to be the most productive

558
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Speaker 11: unit on the field. Or it's going to lead some

559
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Speaker 11: bad things where it's you know, Aaron throws by Josh

560
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Speaker 11: or him getting sacked a handful of times. Don't forget

561
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Speaker 11: they have like what sixty eight seventy sacs.

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Speaker 2: So sixty years.

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Speaker 7: That's kind of my answer to your question.

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Speaker 11: So I'll let you take it from here, and thanks

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Speaker 11: again for that video. Yeah, amazing, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Jordan, appreciate the time. Words. That means a lot

567
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Speaker 2: coming from the fan base who's infinitely more passionate than

568
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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 3: But you're right, Thank you for that. I hear what

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Speaker 3: you're saying, Jordan, and you're right. I mean, the focus,

571
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Speaker 3: even for the casual fans a lot about Josh, Right,

572
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: you got to keep him up right, and Josh overcomes

573
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Speaker 3: in a lot of problems. He is a great human eraser. Right,

574
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Speaker 3: anybody makes a mistake, Josh erases it makes it okay,

575
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Speaker 3: like it never happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If and of course, if if Josh goes down, so

578
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Speaker 3: do the hopes for the season, right. I mean, I

579
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Speaker 3: love Mitch Trubisky, but things change. So I agree with

580
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Speaker 3: you that the offensive line the Bills feel right now

581
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Speaker 3: is experienced. They're cohesive, They've been very productive even last week. Notwithstanding, Uh,

582
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Speaker 3: it's a group that you know, o Cyrus Torrance Fork

583
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Speaker 3: lifted him into the end zone and they the quarterback

584
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Speaker 3: sneak game has been great. The running game took it

585
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Speaker 3: on the nose last week because they're playing the number

586
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Speaker 3: one defense run defense in the league. They're playing the

587
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Speaker 3: number two defense this week. It's going to be just

588
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Speaker 3: as difficult. Those guys do have to play well in

589
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Speaker 3: order for this team to win, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 2: Here's one thing that seems to be different about the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: The Broncos are a defensive front that is predicated on speed.

592
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Speaker 2: They are not a big front. They're starting defensive tackles

593
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Speaker 2: DJ Jones six foot three, zero five, John Franklin Meyers

594
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Speaker 2: six four ninety nine. Now, I know Waite is not

595
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Speaker 2: what it's all about. It's leverage two. But they don't

596
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Speaker 2: have any three hundred and thirty pounders just sitting in there.

597
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Speaker 2: And the old line for the Bills outweighs this defensive

598
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Speaker 2: front considerably. Yeah, and they moved them out of the

599
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Speaker 2: way last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, and that's why that's part of the

601
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Speaker 3: reason why they got so many sacks.

602
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Speaker 2: They outrun some people.

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Speaker 3: You know, they can get around and they can run

604
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Speaker 3: stunts at a faster pace than some offensive lines can

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Speaker 3: pick up. Right, So they get they get home a

606
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Speaker 3: lot sixty eight times.

607
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Speaker 2: But they can't stand in there and grind. Well, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I think you're probably gonna they're gonna get tested there, right,

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Speaker 3: But doestats say, you don't think we're the only ones

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Speaker 3: that saw that and tried it.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 3: They've stood up against it. They've got they got a plan,

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Speaker 3: and it's not all about their girth. It's about gap

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Speaker 3: integrity and running the football and tackling well. As we

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Speaker 3: saw Jacksonville do last week. Last week, they tackle extreme

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Speaker 3: extremely well. You can bet this Denver team's the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Plus Denver's got some stuff that Jacksonville didn't, most notably

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Speaker 3: the defensive player of the year. Defending defensive player of

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Speaker 3: the year. Out on the outside, they can cover you up,

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Speaker 3: so they play a ton of man coverage. Does the

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Speaker 3: Denver defense. Josh's gonna have to find somebody, So whether

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Speaker 3: they protect him or not, somebody's got to get shake loose,

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna be on Joe Brady to see it

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Speaker 3: coming and call some man beaters and have somebody who

625
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Speaker 3: can beat man. Uh, that's it's easy to say. But

626
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Speaker 3: they've got three guys a wide receiver healthy right now.

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Speaker 3: We don't know who the other the fourth and the

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Speaker 3: fifth they're gonna be, and the fourth and fifth they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be on the field. Whoever they are, they're gonna

630
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Speaker 3: have to play.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm I'm hoping Ty Johnson can get healthy

633
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Speaker 2: because he can be a factor in the passing game.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Dave in Rochester next. What's up, Dave?

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Speaker 6: How you guys doing today. So I think the key

636
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 6: to the game will actually be on the coordinators more

637
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Speaker 6: so Joe Brady than you know, the defense.

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Speaker 9: Defense.

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Speaker 6: They just got to stop the run and uh, you know,

640
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Speaker 6: make Bowe neck beat them down the field. But I

641
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Speaker 6: think with the issues with the receivers that he's going

642
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 6: to have to do some play calling that's gonna put

643
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Speaker 6: the players in the right position at the right time,

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Speaker 6: whether it's rub routes the old school zer routes like

645
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Speaker 6: the Patriots used to run with Edelman and am Mondola

646
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Speaker 6: and have someone in the backfield to protect Josh. I

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Speaker 6: think that's the main key right there. And I think

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Speaker 6: you go in with six receivers that someone gets hurt.

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Speaker 6: So I think Joe Brady will be the key. Obviously,

650
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Speaker 6: the players got to execute, but I think it'll come

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Speaker 6: down to the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: All right, Dave, appreciate the phone call. You know, you

653
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Speaker 2: could certainly make an argument for that. I don't know

654
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Speaker 2: if they're gonna dress six because you have other considerations

655
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Speaker 2: you have to factor in. You can't just say, well,

656
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Speaker 2: we want six receivers because you got to rob from

657
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Speaker 2: another position to accommodate that, because you can only dress

658
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Speaker 2: forty eight on game day if you have eight offensive linemen.

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Speaker 2: So there are decisions to be made there, which is

660
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Speaker 2: why the coaching staff sits down every week on Friday

661
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Speaker 2: and decides, all right, how are we going to balance

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Speaker 2: this roster out right?

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Speaker 3: Who's who's really available and we can depend on because

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Speaker 3: they don't want to put somebody out there either, like say,

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Speaker 3: for instance, they activate at Oliver and all he lasts

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Speaker 3: two snaps if there's a risk of that. That was

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Speaker 3: a huge concern of mine this last week in Jacksonville

668
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Speaker 3: about Praterer. Does he come out kicked twice and all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden he's seized up again and now you're stuck.

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Speaker 2: And you saw that the coaching staff was just as

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Speaker 2: concerned because they had the punter doing the kickoffs Withshnowski.

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Speaker 3: That's right, and that was a smart move as well.

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Speaker 3: Wishnowski did a nice job, by the way. So that's

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Speaker 3: the kind of questions the Bills have. I don't think

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Speaker 3: you've got the same number of questions for the Broncos

676
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Speaker 3: coaching staff. They've got like three guys on their injury list,

677
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Speaker 3: and two of them are just limited. Everybody's practicing, it seems, so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have players on ir but yes.

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Speaker 3: So they've got who they know who they've got, and

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Speaker 3: when all they got to do is pick the best

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Speaker 3: ones to play against this team.

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Speaker 2: Eight h three zero five fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty What element of the Bills must

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Speaker 2: be productive against the Broncos on Saturday? To Tony in Toronto?

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Speaker 4: Next?

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Speaker 12: What's up, Tony?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 13: How are you guys?

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Speaker 4: Good? Good?

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Speaker 13: I think that I really believe the key to the

691
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Speaker 13: game is our defense. I'll tell you why, because since

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Speaker 13: the second half of the Eagles game, they've been playing amazing,

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Speaker 13: amazing defense. Forget the Jets game. They kept us in

694
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Speaker 13: this game. And I know it's going to be a

695
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Speaker 13: tough sledding for the offense no matter what. But if

696
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Speaker 13: they keep us in the game, then we got Josh

697
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Speaker 13: to do what he can to just squeeze by this game.

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Speaker 13: And secondly, I had this issue with the running game.

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Speaker 13: If if we are unsuccessful in the first half with

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Speaker 13: the running like we were against Jacksonville, these guys are

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Speaker 13: number two against the run, and what point do we say, hey,

702
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Speaker 13: it's costing us us too much time off the clock.

703
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Speaker 13: We have these two yard runs. At what points should

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Speaker 13: we say, hey, either we abandon it or limit it

705
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Speaker 13: or something because we might need those extra valuable minutes

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Speaker 13: at the end of the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they did do that last week. They did

708
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Speaker 2: do that last week. Tony Brady saw it wasn't working.

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Speaker 2: We saw James Cook only had fifteen carries in the game,

710
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Speaker 2: and they used Shakir in the short passing game as

711
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Speaker 2: a replacement for the run game. But I think they

712
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Speaker 2: would still much rather get Cook off and going. Uh

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Speaker 2: he practically had a week off.

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Speaker 13: Last Absolutely, Yeah, I agree. I saw that that we

715
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Speaker 13: limited Cook's runs in the second half. I'm just saying,

716
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Speaker 13: these guys could be a completely different animal. Everyone's talking

717
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Speaker 13: about how great they are defensively, and it's points are

718
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Speaker 13: going to be at a premium, and maybe, just maybe

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Speaker 13: we limit his runs if we're on the successful early

720
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Speaker 13: in the second quarter versus going into the second half.

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Speaker 13: But I just thought to bring that point.

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Speaker 2: Up, So yeah, yeah, go ahead, Tony.

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Speaker 13: And I think the defense, I think to me, the

724
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Speaker 13: defense has been playing great. Were hurt, but they were

725
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Speaker 13: playing great. As long as they can keep us in

726
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Speaker 13: the game, a close game, we can pull it out.

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Speaker 13: But if they start scoring nearly willy on us, we're done.

728
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Speaker 13: You know it's gonna be too hard to come back.

729
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Speaker 2: They haven't scored more than twenty points in each of

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Speaker 2: their last three games, including their last loss to the

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars, which they lost thirty four to twenty. They

732
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Speaker 2: turned it over three times or maybe four. I think

733
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Speaker 2: it was thirty four three by Knicks and then there

734
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Speaker 2: was one other turnover. You're right, but they haven't scored

735
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Speaker 2: over twenty points in over a month, and it doesn't

736
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Speaker 2: matter because their defense is so good. So basically, with

737
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Speaker 2: the Broncos, it's a race to twenty points in many

738
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Speaker 2: games because they know their defense will hold that other

739
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Speaker 2: team down for the most part. I mean, and they

740
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Speaker 2: have this season, with the exception of Jacksonville and a

741
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Speaker 2: couple of other instances, so there are different schools of thought.

742
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Speaker 2: I can't see the Bills changing their spots at this

743
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Speaker 2: point in the season. They've been the number one running

744
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Speaker 2: team in football. It's their identity. It's not that they

745
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Speaker 2: can't pivot off it. But I don't think they're going

746
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Speaker 2: to abandon it if it's not getting huge gains in

747
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Speaker 2: the first quarter, because I think they believe the cumulative

748
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Speaker 2: effect of their run game will be successful for them.

749
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Speaker 2: So as long as it's a close game, I don't

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Speaker 2: see them straying from the run game because they believe

751
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Speaker 2: those two yard gains in the first quarter and maybe

752
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Speaker 2: halfway through the second quarter are going to become four

753
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Speaker 2: and five and six yard gains in the third and

754
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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. They just wear people out with that

755
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Speaker 2: run game. The key, though, is if they even if

756
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Speaker 2: they do run successfully, those drives better finish in the

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Speaker 2: end zone. And they're playing the number one red zone

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Speaker 2: defense in football, so that's really even more important than

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Speaker 2: how effective the run game is are the drives finishing

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Speaker 2: with six on the board, because you can't take field

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Speaker 2: goals unless your defense is playing.

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Speaker 4: Just as good.

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Speaker 3: And I think too, you've got to make sure your

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Speaker 3: run game is still involved because you can play action

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Speaker 3: and that helps your pass protection a little bit. Joh,

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Speaker 3: this team's got sixty eight sacks. If Josh has to

767
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Speaker 3: drop back on obvious passing downs in any situation, he's

768
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Speaker 3: gonna be under duress.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna get there.

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Speaker 3: So you've got to make sure they have to think

771
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Speaker 3: about the run every snap. That's not a punt team,

772
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Speaker 3: that's not a punt. They got to think about the

773
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Speaker 3: run game every and that that includes the red zone.

774
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Speaker 3: When you can run in the red zone, you're a

775
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: better offense. It's something that the defense. It really stretches them.

776
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Speaker 3: That's good red zone offenses can run it down there

777
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Speaker 3: and it really helps. So I think that will help

778
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: the Bills in the red zone a little bit against

779
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Speaker 3: this really good red zone defense. But that's what you're

780
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Speaker 3: up against. You you're gonna have to play action. You're

781
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 3: gonna have to move Josh're gonna have to boot leg him.

782
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 3: You have to move the because if you drop back

783
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Speaker 3: and you get into those third and long second and

784
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Speaker 3: long passing situations.

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Speaker 2: They've got a pass rush. They got sixty eight sacks.

786
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Speaker 3: Sixty eight by far, by far and away the most

787
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Speaker 3: in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the next closest team was eleven behind with fifty seven.

789
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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, more of your phone

790
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Speaker 2: calls when we get back on a Wednesday edition of

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live Stay with Us from the Coach's Office

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Speaker 2: is presented by CfBT copyr Facts Business Technology, the official

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Speaker 2: office technology company of the Buffalo Bills. And there is

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Speaker 2: familiarity between these two coaching staffs, Steve, not only because

795
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: they were both in the same division for several years

796
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Speaker 2: in the NFC south On Peyton, head coach of the Saints,

797
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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott defensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers. But you

798
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: also have members of Buffalo's coaching staff that coached under

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton in New Orleans. So how does that enter

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Speaker 2: into some of the preparations that you make knowing how

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton operates.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's just it that they know how. A couple

803
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: of guys on the Bill's staff know how Sean Payton operates.

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00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 3: Sean Payton has familiarity with Joe Brady and Aaron Cromer

805
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: for sure, and Rob Boris, so these you know it,

806
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: it's a little bit of an incestuous industry. I spoke

807
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Speaker 3: about the early this about there were nine head coaches vacate,

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00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: vacant head coaching positions in the NFL, and all those

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Speaker 3: guys on all those staffs.

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Speaker 2: Are available.

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Speaker 3: Right, some of the coaches, like like a McDermott, like

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Speaker 3: like Sean Payton, like all these other coaches who are

813
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 3: not losing their jobs this year, We'll say, you know

814
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: what they were really, I'd like, I'd like to talk

815
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 3: to this guy and that guy and that guy, and

816
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: they bring him in because of what their team, the

817
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: other team had done, what they had done, what they'd

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00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: heard about, and they want to see if they can

819
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 3: get their staffs better because of that. So there are

820
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Speaker 3: guys out there, teams out there who could take advantage

821
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Speaker 3: of that carnage of the postseason coaching carousel.

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Speaker 2: And you get into these staffs and.

823
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: They say, well, when I was working for him, he

824
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: always thought like this and this and this and this.

825
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, that's yeah, we see that here. And

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Speaker 3: then on the film backs it up and you talk

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Speaker 3: about you know, you cross references with what other guys

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Speaker 3: have experienced and you try and get a handle on

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Speaker 3: where their thought process would be when they apply it

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 2: So it's all this, you know, it's all this. He's

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit like that scene in A Princess

834
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Speaker 3: Bride where I know you know that I knew this,

835
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Speaker 3: and I would think that you would know that I

836
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: knew that you would know that I would not, you know,

837
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Speaker 3: So you get into a little bit of that silliness.

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Speaker 3: But that's it's true me.

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Speaker 2: There is value in it. There is value in it.

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Speaker 2: There's value in it, particularly when you get it right. Well, yeah,

841
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: you know what it gets wrong. It's a matching of wits. Incidentally,

842
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: Sean Payton and Sean McDermott have squared off against one

843
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: another either as a coordinator a head coach fifteen times.

844
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Speaker 2: Sean Payton has an eight and seven record against McDermott.

845
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Speaker 2: You know, McDermott's going to want to even that score

846
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Speaker 2: this Saturday. Let's get back to the phones and to

847
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Speaker 2: Gary on a sell. What's up Gary?

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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, you're doing good and good yeah, Cooks the receiver,

849
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 10: not the running back. I thought he was massive last week.

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Speaker 10: I'd like to see more him next week. I like

851
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 10: that you've got separation and they're easy for AWM. I

852
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 10: thought that was huge. I'm not saying he's the most

853
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Speaker 10: important the off the line. It is probably the most important,

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Speaker 10: but I think he considering their health to receive also, obviously,

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Speaker 10: if he stayed healthy, that was big time for us

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Speaker 10: last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And look your point about how shorthanded

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Speaker 2: they are. Yeah, he's got to be a factor. I mean,

859
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: it's crazy to think about this that the guy just

860
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: got here like five weeks ago, but he's suddenly a

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00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: critical component of this passing game, doing part to what

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00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 2: he's been able to do on the field the last

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Speaker 2: three games. And then secondarily because you just lost two

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Speaker 2: more guys for the season. So I mean you're basically

865
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: Shakir has been here from front to back, and so

866
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Speaker 2: has Coleman. But Coleman's been in active for four games

867
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Speaker 2: and you need him now and his physicality, particularly in

868
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Speaker 2: the run game, and you hope he can make a

869
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Speaker 2: few plays for you as well. But yeah, after Shakir

870
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Speaker 2: at the receiver position, I'm not counting the tight ends

871
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: here or the backs, but at the receiver position, Cooks

872
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: is probably the second most important guy after Shakir.

873
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah at the current moment. Yeah, there's no question Palmer's

874
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Speaker 3: not gonna help.

875
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Speaker 2: He's on IR. Yeah, so three year or six are

876
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Speaker 2: on IR.

877
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Speaker 3: Now, right, here's the thing. You gotta line up eleven guys, yep,

878
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Speaker 3: and usually you go in with no fewer than five

879
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: wide receivers. The Bills have three.

880
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: Healthy, presumably with Davis and with Shavers presumably headed towards

881
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: injured reserve. There will be two roster spots created on

882
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Speaker 2: the fifty three. Now you have to decide is one

883
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: of those is going to be given to Ed Oliver?

884
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Speaker 2: What are you doing with the other one? And then

885
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: is the other receiver that comes up a practice squad elevation.

886
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Speaker 2: So there's gonna be this roster juggling that we have

887
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Speaker 2: seen all season happening again here this week.

888
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Speaker 3: That's right, there's no getting around it. It's going to

889
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 3: be a different room this week. You got Coleman, Cook's Khalil.

890
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Speaker 2: Those are your healthy that is it?

891
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Speaker 3: On the and on the practice squad. Wilkerson, Wilkerson, Hardman

892
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Speaker 3: Mikole Hardman. Michole Hardman, and then Curtis Samuel's on. I

893
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Speaker 3: R Curtis Samuel practicing, but he's yeah, he's trying to

894
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Speaker 3: make it kind of. Curtis Samuel has a chance to

895
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Speaker 3: get back. He would help because he's been.

896
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Speaker 2: A touchdown last year in the playoff. Him.

897
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Speaker 3: He's been here, he's been here, he's made a difference.

898
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Speaker 3: He's you know, he's been in the offense. He's not

899
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Speaker 3: a fresh face, you know, he's he's familiar. So I

900
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Speaker 3: would expect him to push hard to get in.

901
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Speaker 2: Yep, we'll see. Let's go to John in Niagara Falls next.

902
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Speaker 2: What's up John?

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Speaker 4: How you doing?

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Speaker 12: Guys? I just wanted to make a comment about I'm

905
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 12: a big Jackson Hawes fan. I think the Bill's got

906
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Speaker 12: a real diamond and the rough and that guy, and

907
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Speaker 12: I think that they've got big plans for him. They

908
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 12: may not all be manifested this year, but they could be.

909
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Speaker 12: But he's shown a willingness to do different things, and

910
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 12: he's he's an extremely intelligent individual. The guy had a

911
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Speaker 12: three point seven gpa in college, made the Dean's List

912
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 12: five straight semesters. It's highly intelligent, as far as football mentality,

913
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Speaker 12: and he plays with an edge. I think he's got

914
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Speaker 12: a nasty attitude that really benefits benefits you in football.

915
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Speaker 12: So I think he's kind of like could be a

916
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Speaker 12: secret weapon and could be used in a lot of

917
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Speaker 12: different ways like this year, especially in protecting Josh from

918
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Speaker 12: past rushes and that sort of thing. So I'm just

919
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Speaker 12: leaving the rest of your comments.

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00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, John, I mean he is a sneaky athlete

921
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: very quietly. He's got a few touchdowns this year. He's

922
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 2: shown an ability to playoff script. I mean remember the

923
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Speaker 2: shovel pass from Josh to Hawes in the end zone.

924
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: I mean that's a totally broken play, not by design

925
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Speaker 2: at all. There was another play down in the red

926
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Speaker 2: zone where he was blocking. You know, is Asimo is

927
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Speaker 2: to block on the play, and because the play was

928
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: still alive, he spins off the block into the end zone,

929
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 2: turns around, and Josh hits him with the pass because

930
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Speaker 2: he's the only guy open.

931
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Speaker 3: He's also think about a week one when they're down

932
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Speaker 3: fifteen with four and a half minutes to play, they

933
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Speaker 3: get a turnover and right after they get the fumble

934
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Speaker 3: from Derrick Henry, Josh hits him right on the goal line,

935
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Speaker 3: right at the scene, and he get falls in right

936
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Speaker 3: at the goal line. He doesn't get in, but he's

937
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Speaker 3: you know, first and goal from the half yard line.

938
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Speaker 3: That's his first catch as a pro. So it's a

939
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Speaker 3: pretty good way to break in. Yeah, I agree with you.

940
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: He's a good player. He brings a lot of stuff

941
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Speaker 3: to the table at that position. A lot of guys

942
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: cannot bring. His physical reality is one of them. So yeah,

943
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Speaker 3: I'm all for it.

944
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Speaker 2: Break time for us here, our number two begins with

945
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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls. We also expect at some

946
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Speaker 2: point in our number two to have one Connor McGovern

947
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Speaker 2: join us in studio after practice concludes inside the field

948
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949
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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you dison up this Bills Broncos Divisional

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Speaker 2: Playoff as many different ways as we can. Topic of

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Speaker 2: discussion for you today, What element of the Bills must

956
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Speaker 2: be productive against the Broncos on Saturday afternoon eight oh three,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one, eight eight eight, five point fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five fifty those and the numbers to join us. And

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Speaker 2: we do have open lines for you right now. Don't

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00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: have time to give us a phone call, not a problem.

961
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 2: You can always hit us up on the tweets sheet

962
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: at one bills Live. But let's get back to the

963
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Speaker 2: phones and to Ken in Buffalo. What's up Ken?

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Speaker 14: Hey, good afternoon, fellers. Get to be on with you

965
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 14: all again. And I think it's a really thoughtful question

966
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 14: for us to ponder. But in my humble view, I

967
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 14: believe that a couple dementias that will be critical import

968
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 14: all will be but in particular the offensive line, given

969
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 14: the fact that Denver is a team that likes to

970
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 14: bring a lot of pressure and from different angles, that's

971
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 14: going to be critically important. I've also noticed that although

972
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 14: Josh Allen is one of the best quarterbacks in the

973
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 14: NFL as it relates to facing pressure, particularly blitzes, his

974
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 14: ability to throw and be effective throwing has been well documented.

975
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 14: On the other hand, we've seen from this year, in

976
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 14: particular that when he's not just under pressure but also

977
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 14: taking a lot of sacks it hits, it tends to

978
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 14: make him a different quarterback. We saw that in all

979
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 14: of the losses versus New England at Lyons to Miami

980
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 14: Philly and even Houston. It seems that his clock changes,

981
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 14: and understandably so when you're getting hit a lot in

982
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 14: sack playing behind the sticks, it'll make it a lot

983
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 14: more difficult. So the offensive line play will be critically important,

984
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 14: and not just creating running room but also keeping him

985
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 14: in third and manageable. Also notable is that on the

986
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 14: big path to Brandon Cooks on the game win and drive,

987
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 14: Lest we forget, there was a blitzer who came free.

988
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 14: It was a delayed blitz the zero and the guard

989
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 14: on that side missed him. So the line will have

990
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 14: to be able to communicate more effectively because that could

991
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,479
Speaker 14: have went a different way, but for the outstanding play

992
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 14: that he made, so I think that'll be critically important.

993
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 14: And then of course the kicking game trader has been

994
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 14: missed the clutch and we can only hope that this

995
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 14: continues as well. Hopefully Ray Davis can make a big play,

996
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 14: but I think special teams would be vitally important, in

997
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 14: particular the kicking game extra points, Philgo's points will be

998
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 14: at a premium, and our ability to keep trader that

999
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 14: one hundred mode will influence the outcome in the end.

1000
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 14: So those are my takes for what they were.

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00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: Thanks Ken, Thanks Jan. When you were talking about that

1002
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 2: free runner that came Devin Lloyd on the blitz against

1003
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: Josh in the Jacksonville game, I'm remembering what Eric Wood

1004
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: said on the broadcast. It was his opinion that they

1005
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: messed up that protection because they slid everything to the

1006
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: right and he came scott free on Josh's left side. Now,

1007
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: there are some times where Josh will set a protection

1008
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: to allow one free runner to come and it's his

1009
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: job to take care of that guy. I don't Eric

1010
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: did not feel that was the case on that one

1011
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: because he came from the inside. Usually he'll take one

1012
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: on one and outside rusher and avoid him in some

1013
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: way and still make a play. So he felt that

1014
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 2: they did not get that protection right, and yet Josh

1015
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: still made it right in the end. Fortunately, I will

1016
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: say that I don't think they're going to be able

1017
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: to throw down the field as much on this Broncos team.

1018
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: They're just too They're significantly faster, they're a significantly faster

1019
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: defense up front than Jacksonville, and I think they're gonna

1020
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 2: have to subscribe to a quick release passing attack similar

1021
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 2: to what we saw in the Chiefs game earlier this season.

1022
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: Remember how quick they were getting it out of Josh's

1023
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: hands and he was just being bang boom. He looked

1024
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: like a pinball machine, like a pair of flippers on

1025
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: a pinball machine. He was just getting the ball out

1026
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: to his ball carriers and they were getting yards for him.

1027
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: I think they may have to subscribe to that again.

1028
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1029
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1030
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 3: The general rule of thumby you talking about having a

1031
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: free rusher, they they there's always a chance that the

1032
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 3: defense will bring one more than you can protect. The

1033
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 3: object is and they always try to do this is

1034
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 3: to get all the interior guys picked up. So the

1035
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 3: guy they leave free is outside because he got obviously,

1036
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 3: because he's got further to run. Whether it's a dB

1037
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: or a defensive end. They want the guy with furthest

1038
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 3: to go to be the guy they don't block if

1039
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 3: in that case and this time, you know, in the

1040
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: case of this long bowl to cooks, they didn't do that.

1041
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: No, So yeah, those.

1042
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: Are the ones where you kind of want to be

1043
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: a fly on the wall in the film session, they go,

1044
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: what were we thinking here?

1045
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 2: Well, we had this and we messed that up. Yeah

1046
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: you know, thanks Josh, Yeah, wait to go, job, that's

1047
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: what happened. Yeah, let's get back to the phones and

1048
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: to march out in West Seneca. What's up, Marty?

1049
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 7: Hey, how you doing good?

1050
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 14: My observation is coaching and clock management.

1051
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 4: Okay, that's just about it.

1052
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 14: Because Sean Payton's gonna draw off something because he's pretty slick.

1053
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 2: Well, we do know that he is not afraid of

1054
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: taking high risk, high reward chances on occasion. I mean,

1055
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 2: everybody remembers what he did in the Super Bowl, So

1056
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: you know that's a valid point. Granted, you can't surprise

1057
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: teams anymore with an on side kick the way the

1058
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: rules are now, but you can come up with something else,

1059
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 2: whether it's a fake punt. You know, defense thinks they've

1060
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: got you stopped and then you run a fake punt

1061
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: play and you continue your drive. Yeah, you can't put

1062
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: any of that past him because he's not afraid of

1063
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: taking risks.

1064
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

1065
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's all or nothing, and it's no holds bar.

1066
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 3: The whole thing it's it's do or die. So they're

1067
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 3: gonna open up the playbook and get creative, and they're

1068
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna call emergency only plays if they need to,

1069
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yeah, they're gonna pull the

1070
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 3: fire alarm if they need to. So you're right, and

1071
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 3: Sean Payton will have some stuff like that in his arsenal,

1072
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Speaker 3: no question.

1073
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Speaker 2: Let's see what you got cooking over on the tweet

1074
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Speaker 2: sheet here for today in terms of the element of

1075
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Speaker 2: the Bills that you think has to be productive against

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Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Dave

1078
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: says last week was all on Josh. This game has

1079
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: to lean heavily on number four. If he's moving forward,

1080
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: the offense will cook no pun intended. Yeah, I mean

1081
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: I was saying that from the start of the show.

1082
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it has to be dominant the way

1083
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: it was last year. It'd be nice. I just think

1084
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: it has to be functional where it's at least part

1085
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: of the solution in keeping the offense on schedule in

1086
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: terms of down and distance, and more importantly, keeping the

1087
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: denver defense. Honest, in terms of how they're defending Buffalo,

1088
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: you cannot let them get in a pin their ears

1089
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: back pass rush because Josh has to drop back forty times.

1090
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: That's a recipe for disaster against his defense. You have

1091
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: to run the ball with some measure of effectiveness. You

1092
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: don't have to dominate, but you have to be effective.

1093
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 8: Right.

1094
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: The scoreboard will say a little bit of that. But

1095
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 3: even aside from the scoreboard and us in the ability

1096
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 3: to hand it off because that you're not really down

1097
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 3: by double digits, that kind of more than one possession.

1098
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: That's beside the fact that you've got to stay ahead

1099
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 3: of the sticks. You've got to be in a down

1100
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: a distance where you could fifty to fifty run it

1101
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 3: or fifty to fifty pass it. You've got to make

1102
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: sure the defense has to play both because once they

1103
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: start thinking you're only going to do one thing, you

1104
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: got problems, particularly against this defensive front.

1105
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: Let's jump back on the phone lines here and go

1106
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: to Scott in Lancaster. What's up Scott?

1107
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, just quick question for Steve, and you know

1108
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 13: the way.

1109
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 10: Football has changed a while. Team's going for it on

1110
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 10: fourth down? Is it just me or is is.

1111
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 13: Maybe a fake punt something that should become more regular.

1112
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 9: It seems, you know, when you can kind of tell

1113
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 9: the defense isn't gonna try to block and they're setting

1114
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 9: up a return.

1115
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that?

1116
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: For me, Scott, it depends on the guys you've got

1117
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 3: on your punt team, you know, if you've got to

1118
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've seen some punters make some pretty

1119
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 3: bad throws and some pretty bad decisions. If you've got

1120
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 3: guys that you can trust, absolutely it'll work, but you

1121
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 3: also have to see an opening for it. There's some

1122
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 3: teams that are more susceptible than others. If they're setting

1123
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: up for a return, most of those guys pick one

1124
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 3: of their guys, and particularly they'll pick up one of

1125
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 3: the eligible receiver. There's only you know, there's only some

1126
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 3: even though it's a punt play, there's still only five

1127
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 3: eligible receivers, right so you and two of them are

1128
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: the big what are the wide guys? And those are

1129
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 3: always covered? You gotta you can bet that most of

1130
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: these teams will have guys responsible for the eligible receivers. Uh,

1131
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: if they start toying with that or you get the

1132
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 3: inkling that they're gonna let one of your eligible guys

1133
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 3: walk or go uncovered, unblocked and unblocked in the return game. Yeah,

1134
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 3: you can take advantage of it. Or if you feel

1135
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,479
Speaker 3: like you've got to match up someplace else, of course

1136
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: you would. But it's got to be in the right spot, right.

1137
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: You're not gonna do that backed up in your own

1138
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 3: end zone. You're not gonna do it, you know, at

1139
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 3: a wrong in an an opportune moment when he could

1140
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 3: cost you because it may go south on you.

1141
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: So there you go. Now, Uh, let's go back to

1142
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: the phones here and to Tom in Tonawanda. What's up? Tom?

1143
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 15: Hey, what's up? I was thinking, what if we most

1144
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 15: Kincaid out to the uh slop position and then that

1145
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 15: way we can run a goal tight end set with

1146
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 15: Cook in the backfield, so we can get that pig

1147
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 15: skin out of there as soon as possible.

1148
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he lines up there a fair amount anyway,

1149
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: so to speak, because when he's detached, he's usually in

1150
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 2: that area, he's typically inside the numbers. So I don't

1151
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: think that would be a foreign concept. And yes, I

1152
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: think Shakir and Kincaid are going to be instrumental in

1153
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: this game because of how quick Josh is going to

1154
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: need to get the ball out of his hands. So

1155
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: those two guys are going to be a critical component

1156
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: of what I think the plan is going to be

1157
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: in the passing game, because you can't have Josh taking

1158
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: five step drops and surveying the field like he did

1159
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: last week. There were a lot of snaps where he

1160
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: had some really good protection last week. This crew is

1161
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: tougher to block up for, you know, two and a

1162
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: half three seconds, right, So it would behoove you to

1163
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: design some plays where he can get the ball out

1164
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: with some easy button throws and not succumb to pressure.

1165
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: You know. Somebody also mentioned how much Josh has been

1166
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: sacked this year, and it's true, he's been sacked forty

1167
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: times in the regular season. But I think even Josh

1168
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: would tell you part of that was his own doing,

1169
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: which I think was part of the reason why Joe

1170
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 2: Brady decided let me have himself scout here in Week

1171
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: eighteen while Mitch gets ready to play the Jets, because

1172
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: on third and fourth down, there were a lot of

1173
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 2: instances where he did not throw the ball away, including

1174
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 2: the Eagles game where they're in field goal range. And

1175
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: he's running around backwards and back and forth and ends

1176
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: up losing nineteen yards and takes points off the board

1177
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: by taking a nineteen yard loss on a sack. You

1178
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: got to throw it away. And this is a team

1179
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: where you have to accept throwing it away maybe five

1180
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: six times in this game because their pass pressure is

1181
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: that good, rather than taking a nine yard loss and

1182
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: leading to a punt live for another play. You really

1183
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: have to have that mindset because, look, you got a

1184
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: great offensive line, it's probably top three in the league. Well,

1185
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 2: they got a top three defensive line and the best

1186
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: sacking line in the league. They're gonna win on some

1187
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: So when they do win, don't let them win in

1188
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 2: the form of a nine yard loss on a sack.

1189
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: Have them win in the form of I'm gonna throw

1190
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: it away and it's gonna be second and ten. Yeah,

1191
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: that's how you have to let them win on occasion.

1192
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: Not taking the disastrous play, take the lesser of the

1193
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: two evils, which is throwaway live for another down.

1194
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 3: Josh has been outstay. He's got a game I want

1195
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: to knock on wood six game streak of zero turnovers

1196
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 3: and he's got sixteen touchdowns in that span. I think

1197
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: something like the sixteen touchdowns. He hasn't turned it over

1198
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 3: in six straight playoff games at all. That's got to continue.

1199
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: Easier said than done, but yes, uh. Believer on the

1200
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 2: tweets sheet says, the element that must be productive is

1201
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: special teams. When it comes to the playoffs, it feels

1202
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,959
Speaker 2: like special teams moves from supporting cast to co star.

1203
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: Need a big day from this unit. I would say,

1204
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: especially in the return game, Steve, because you know how

1205
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: hard yards are going to be to come by for

1206
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: this offense against this defensive unit. The better field position

1207
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: you can give those guys, the less work they got

1208
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: to get done to get into scoring territory.

1209
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 3: It's uh yeah, it all, it all works together. I

1210
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 3: mean everybody's got to contribute.

1211
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: Ray.

1212
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 3: A big day from Ray Davis would go a long

1213
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 3: way in this game, really go a long way.

1214
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bill in Toronto. What's up Bill?

1215
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 7: Hi?

1216
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 4: Guys?

1217
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 12: Hi?

1218
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 7: Guys?

1219
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? First, go ahead?

1220
01:04:59,080 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 14: Okay.

1221
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 16: He was just thinking that a big key to the game.

1222
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 16: And I guess this is no secret because it's been

1223
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 16: our Achilles heel all season long. But is stopping the

1224
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 16: runner at least slowing it down? I think Harvey is

1225
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 16: kind of flowing under the radar a little bit because

1226
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 16: he's out west, But from watching him a lot, that

1227
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 16: guy is powerful and shifty, and if he gets rolling

1228
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 16: downhill like somebody like Henry, he can cover a lot

1229
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 16: of ground in a hurry. So at least we've got

1230
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 16: to slow him down. I know we probably won't stop him. Secondly,

1231
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 16: I never thought I'd be saying this about at this

1232
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 16: point in his career, but I think that Trey White

1233
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 16: might have a big part in this game because he

1234
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 16: looks fully healthy again, and the way he was flying

1235
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 16: around in pass coverage last week, he was great. He

1236
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 16: looked like the old days again, and I think that,

1237
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 16: you know, he may be involved in getting interception at

1238
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 16: least knocking some passes down to slow Nicks's approach down too.

1239
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he was inches away from two picks

1240
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: in that game. They wound up going his past breakups,

1241
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: but that was the best game to Davus White has

1242
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: had in a Bill's uniform since maybe twenty twenty two.

1243
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he was, he was on it. I mean

1244
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: he looked like old school tray. So if that continues,

1245
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: I mean they got something really brewing on the back

1246
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: end there, I mean, between him and Milano Poyer until

1247
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: he got hurt, those guys were turning back the clock

1248
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: the last third of the season. Hope, he continues.

1249
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's Trey has always been a little bit

1250
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 3: of a technician and and he works really hard. And

1251
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 3: that's why the further he has gotten away from those injuries,

1252
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 3: the better and better he's got. He's still he's thirty

1253
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 3: years old, which you say, well, it's a little old

1254
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 3: for a corner.

1255
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: In the NFL. But you know, he's got a lot upstairs.

1256
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: He's got a lot in the tank.

1257
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 3: And I think him, I think he's started to flourish

1258
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 3: once again here in Buffalo.

1259
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 2: And you're right coming at just the right time, just

1260
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: the right time. Gotta take a break here because when

1261
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: we come back, joining us in studio will be Bill Center,

1262
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: Connor mc govern, fresh off the practice field. We'll catch

1263
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: up with him next here on One Bill's Live, presented

1264
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: Boy can a Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1265
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

1266
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and joining us in studio, Bill Center,

1267
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 2: Connor McGovern, fresh off the practice field, and player interview

1268
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: appearances on one Bills Live or presented by Tim Horton's

1269
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: the official Coffee of the Buffalo Bills. All Right, Connor,

1270
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: I know I was talking about this a little bit,

1271
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: but you guys had a bye all the way back

1272
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 2: in Week seven. You get the mini buy after the

1273
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 2: Thursday night game, but it's been a bit of a

1274
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 2: stretch since then. How much good did sit in Week

1275
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: eighteen do for you going into the postseason?

1276
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 4: I helped a lot.

1277
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 17: We still do have a lot of guys banged up,

1278
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 17: but just getting that extra weekend just freshen up the

1279
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 17: bodies a little bit and just good down to really

1280
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 17: allow us to get that playoff push going.

1281
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, instead of you can get healthier, but you don't

1282
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 3: have to get any set back physically.

1283
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 2: On the field.

1284
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: You're not.

1285
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: You can just keep getting better. Yeah, like a lot

1286
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 2: better in Jacksonville, right.

1287
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 17: Exactly like that week, Like a lot of teams they

1288
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 17: played Week eight team were able to just rest up

1289
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 17: that a little bit more, just take the mental reps.

1290
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 4: So you just take that load off your body.

1291
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 3: What how big of a disruption is the one day less?

1292
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 3: I know everything's moved up. This is a Thursday today, right,

1293
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 3: instead of a Wednesday.

1294
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: How big of a discress the game's on Saturday.

1295
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 17: Yeah, we try not to look at that that much, right, Yeah,

1296
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 17: it sucks, it's a true week.

1297
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 4: But teams have done before.

1298
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 17: Was the five Steelers that's been in the same position,

1299
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 17: beats the Seahoxys Super Bowl. So that's what we're just

1300
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 17: looking at. Someone else has done already, So why not us?

1301
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: Obviously last year was last year, but you did play

1302
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: him in a playoff game last year, which you guys,

1303
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 2: you know, pulled away in the second half. Is there

1304
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: still value from a film study perspective, just to kind

1305
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: of refamiliarize yourself with their personnel because their defense is

1306
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they have a couple of new pieces, but

1307
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 2: largely up front it's unchanged. So is their value to

1308
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: kind of refamiliarize yours with the personnel that way?

1309
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 17: Or Yeah, for sure, Like we've already gone back looked

1310
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 17: at the film just because we're roughly the same offense,

1311
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 17: they're roughly the same defense, So there's a lot of

1312
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 17: like just carry.

1313
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 4: Over, Yeah, a lot of carryouvers.

1314
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 17: Like it really helps us, like just seeing how they

1315
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 17: play things, like how they play us, how we use

1316
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 17: our hands, differently and how they react to this stuff

1317
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 17: like that, So a lot of like you might not

1318
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 17: look at the sche mutch, just see how they react

1319
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 17: to us and how we can really hit blocks.

1320
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got they've got the defending defensive player of

1321
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 3: the year outside and then they've got the number one

1322
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 3: run defense or number two run defense in the league,

1323
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 3: the number one remaining defense. Yeah right, so, uh, there's

1324
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 3: a lot in this right and they're they're a team

1325
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 3: that's really put it together. There are a lot of

1326
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 3: different team even though they've gotten many of the same players.

1327
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, they're playing at a high level right now.

1328
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 17: Last year the same thing. Great defense, but we're also

1329
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 17: a great offense. So I think it's a great matchup again,

1330
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 17: and it's just gonna be one of those games where

1331
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 17: it's just gonna be one up front, I think, and

1332
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 17: we're up for that challenge.

1333
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 2: You you guys did a pretty good job of handling

1334
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 2: the crowd noise last week, so how I mean Denver

1335
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: is probably a little bit of a different animal, yes,

1336
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 2: but still in all, just having that one week of

1337
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: going through it in a live setting, how much does

1338
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: that help you carry that into this week? Just you know,

1339
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: getting sixty quality reps. Yeah, on the road in a

1340
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: playoff environment already. I mean not that you haven't been

1341
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: through it before, but you just did it six days.

1342
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 17: Like you get the reps during the regular season, but

1343
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 17: you know there's another standing to the playoffs, so that

1344
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 17: really helps us. We're on the road last week in

1345
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 17: the hostile environment. This week, it's gonna be another challenging environment,

1346
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 17: so like it's good to already have one under our

1347
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 17: belt and be ready for that.

1348
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: Also that you know you end up this season on

1349
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: a stretch.

1350
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 3: I was making this. You face a really good hot

1351
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 3: Jacksonville team. They had won eight straight going into that game.

1352
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: I was telling Brady, I've been making this point. I'm

1353
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 3: not unhappy that you almost should have could have beat

1354
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia's because it's hard to you'd have been went

1355
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 3: had to win like ten straight, get all the way,

1356
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 3: and I get it.

1357
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: It's hard to do. It's hard to do.

1358
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 3: And it's not that all those games affect you know,

1359
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 3: this game, but a little by little you start to

1360
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 3: go down a path that we're winning, we're winning, we're winning,

1361
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 3: we're winning, and you start thinking differently about what's going forward,

1362
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 3: and it does affect you.

1363
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 17: It does, and then we have the loss of you

1364
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 17: kind of reset. Like you know, when you start winning winning,

1365
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 17: maybe something things slip through the cracks a little bit,

1366
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 17: but a loss really makes you stop, like, hey, what's

1367
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 17: going on here? Take a step back, really just see

1368
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 17: what's going on and really just start dialing.

1369
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: Base in a lot more places than a win does. Right,

1370
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: you get to go back and mind your piece and

1371
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 3: keys and get just reset and like sweep the corner.

1372
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 17: Yeah, things, You start looking at things more on their

1373
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 17: microscope instead of just letting something slide, like hey, my

1374
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 17: hand was outside, should have been inside here, and you

1375
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 17: really just start dialing the little things.

1376
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 4: Right o.

1377
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: Cyrus Torrance wins Angry runs this week. Now here's the question,

1378
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: because we know the old line and like probably rib

1379
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: each other maybe more than any other position group. So

1380
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 2: is this an example of we lift him up on

1381
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: a pedestal and show him off to everybody else in

1382
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: the locker room or is this something where internally you're

1383
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: just ribbing him and making him feel embarrassed about the

1384
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: whole thing.

1385
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,799
Speaker 4: Oh, we're as a line ripping him apart.

1386
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 17: But no, we love it like everyone else where they

1387
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 17: came him short.

1388
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you didn't make it in the end zone.

1389
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 17: I didn't even know what happened. If you look at this,

1390
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 17: I'm at the complete bottom. I have eight or nine

1391
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 17: guys on the ground. I didn't even know until Dion

1392
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 17: literally rolls me over and like he's like, get up.

1393
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 17: We scored, to get up, scored, And I had no

1394
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 17: idea this happened at all. And then we saw I

1395
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 17: see that on the JumboTron, just picking up Josh and just.

1396
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: Clearing feet swinging for a second, like there's how many

1397
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: people that pick up a quarterback that big and just

1398
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 2: start running with him right right? He's just four cli.

1399
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 4: Look, you can't even see me.

1400
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 3: You're gone the end zone, the back of the end zone.

1401
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 3: On this replay that we're watching, you can see Dion

1402
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 3: come over. You'll watch watch the end of this. You'll

1403
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,600
Speaker 3: Dion comes over. He rolls you over and picks you

1404
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 3: up right right in the back. You see him get

1405
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 3: up there over say hey, we score. So much goes

1406
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 3: on in all this and all of its minutia, but

1407
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,879
Speaker 3: it means like Josh gets up from this quarterback sneak.

1408
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 2: And walks off like he did it himself. Like he's stressed, Like, yeah, look.

1409
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 3: At me and Cyrus the Spencer and everybody are there

1410
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 3: piled up and Josh is over here.

1411
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: You know, swag it's awesome.

1412
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 4: He should though, as you should. Yeah, we just did that,

1413
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 4: but in that.

1414
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 2: Moment you got to own it.

1415
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 3: And it was, uh, the the win probability on that

1416
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 3: play on that sneak when you're went from twenty seven

1417
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 3: percent probability to seventy seven percent on a quarterback sneak?

1418
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? Is that even hurt? Like that?

1419
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,839
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's the largest swing in history.

1420
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: What was Cybo's reaction to winning this thing?

1421
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 3: Like?

1422
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 2: Did somebody have to tell him? How is he made

1423
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 2: aware of that?

1424
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 17: Like I think he just saw it on social media?

1425
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 17: But we're all right behind it, like he should be

1426
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 17: like the thing right, It wasn't like oh like he

1427
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 17: didn't block anyone ran down feeling the guy. No, like

1428
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 17: he took on blockers at the beginning and then it

1429
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 17: just kept going. Literally just picked Josh up and just

1430
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 17: carried him.

1431
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 2: And how is he handling praise? Is he one of

1432
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: those people that shy away from it? Or will he

1433
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 2: puff his chest out or like what's.

1434
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 17: He's one of those he's so level headed, like yeah,

1435
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 17: nothing like he could. You wouldn't like, yeah, you would

1436
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 17: never know, Like he just had this great play. Like

1437
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 17: after the play, like he celebrated with all of us,

1438
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 17: but it's actly like he just did nothing. Like he's

1439
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 17: just one of those people just so level headed. It

1440
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 17: doesn't matter highs or lowes. He's always just our crew.

1441
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 3: Next to his stats put it out it was or

1442
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 3: the probability swung by forty nine point nine percent. It

1443
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 3: went from twenty seven point five to seventy seven point four.

1444
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: Do you feel on the next play there that they

1445
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: pretty much like let you guys because they wanted to

1446
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 2: get the ball back.

1447
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, they gave the run.

1448
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: It didn't feel like they gave much impedance to you guys.

1449
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 17: Getting no when those guards sets back right, kind of

1450
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 17: like when I came forward, like all right, this is

1451
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 17: gonna blast off, and then he sets back, I'm like,

1452
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 17: all right, yeah he definitely.

1453
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we thought watching it a lot.

1454
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 3: If Yeah, and that's this is a huge point of

1455
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 3: conversation post game, because you know you're giving ball back.

1456
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: It's one oh two left, and you know they got Trevor.

1457
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 3: They got the hottest offense in the league, and you know,

1458
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 3: you're thinking, wow, it's they got a shot here with

1459
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 3: a kicker that has hit a sixty nine yard or so.

1460
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 3: You got to you know, they get the ball on

1461
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 3: the the kick coverage team did a great job, got

1462
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 3: him on the twenty three yard line.

1463
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,879
Speaker 2: It's great kick cover on the kickoffs.

1464
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 3: So okay, now they got an extra first down they

1465
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,480
Speaker 3: got to get before they get to midfield.

1466
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: All that stuff.

1467
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 3: Big point of conversation, maybe Josh just Niels down there,

1468
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 3: what what's you know, what are you guys thinking about that?

1469
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 17: We have extreme confidence in our in our entire defense,

1470
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 17: but our secondary has been locked down, like they've been

1471
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 17: on fire. So we knew if we scored whatever, they

1472
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 17: had no timeouts. We had extreme faith in our defense.

1473
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: What is what has been most impressive to you about

1474
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 2: the defense since probably about mid season here because they're

1475
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: doing more with less. You know, they've been beat up

1476
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: almost all season.

1477
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 4: Law veteran stepping up, right, that's been really impressive.

1478
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: Right, Like you got like guys long in the tooth,

1479
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 2: like shack chacks. It's like they found the fountain of youth.

1480
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 17: Or Seriously, they're all thirty plus and just it looks

1481
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 17: like they're twenty four again.

1482
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: Is it amazing to you how some of the most

1483
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: productive quarterbacks this season have looked very like indecisive against

1484
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 2: your defense. Like Drake May has been lighting it up

1485
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 2: all year long. You guys, in that comeback game about

1486
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:22,799
Speaker 2: a month ago.

1487
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 4: That second half, he didn't know what he was looking at.

1488
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: Like it's you got to stand on the sidelines and

1489
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 2: be like, man, what are we dialing up here?

1490
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 17: All that going on, and then you have cold Bush

1491
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 17: and just flying around taking people's heads off like that.

1492
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 17: Guys think twice about before throwing over the middle when

1493
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 17: stuff like that happens.

1494
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just been downright impressive. And I know

1495
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 2: Benford and Trey have like some of the lowest passer

1496
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 2: rating against in the league. What kind of confidence does

1497
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: that give you as an offensive unit? Knowing when those

1498
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 2: guys get on the field, they're probably locking it down

1499
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: for you and getting you the ball back sooner than

1500
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 2: you think.

1501
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 17: That's huge confidence to us, like cause we know they're

1502
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 17: probably go to go three and out or it's gonna

1503
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 17: be short drive, so then we could just start eating

1504
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 17: up the clock, eating up the clock, keep them fresh,

1505
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 17: keep them just under lockdown defense. So it just plays

1506
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 17: complimentary football right there.

1507
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 2: And going in on the road.

1508
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 3: What does conversations I've had, because we've got a couple

1509
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 3: of calls from we've had conversation about it. You know,

1510
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 3: fifty two hundred and eighty feet in the altitude thoughts

1511
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 3: about that? I mean, Josh has been in there and

1512
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 3: he hung four He played at seventy two hundred feet. Yeah,

1513
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 3: a little bit higher than that, John, John, Josh hung

1514
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 3: forty points on the Broncos back with Vic Fango is

1515
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 3: their head coach. What are the conversations about altitude, if any?

1516
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 17: We really don't have any. We're well in shape, so

1517
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 17: I think we'll be fine in that aspect. It's just

1518
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 17: gonna be another hostile environment. So we've got to be

1519
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 17: ready for that and be really on top of communicating.

1520
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 17: I think that would be the biggest struggle.

1521
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: But just not make sure it's the noise exactly.

1522
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 4: They have a great fan base and I know they're

1523
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 4: gonna bring it.

1524
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 2: Time now for this week's tim Bits Time Out, presented

1525
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 2: by of course, Tim Horton's, where we solicited the fans

1526
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: to ask Bill's players a unique question. Connor's probably heard

1527
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 2: some version of this in the past, but Sarah asks,

1528
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: have you ever made pizza on a grill? Any tips

1529
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 2: for making it in the oven? I always have difficulty

1530
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: sliding it off the peel and into the oven without

1531
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: it wanting to stick.

1532
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 17: Okay, So on a grill, yes, I used to do

1533
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 17: in a green egg and smoked the pizza.

1534
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 2: Okay, a green egg grilles an.

1535
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 17: Onion, yeah, exactly. But in the oven, so that's where

1536
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 17: I do mostly. So I have steel plates built into

1537
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 17: my oven, so that helps a lot. But if pizza

1538
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,879
Speaker 17: is sticking to the peel, I throw a little semolina

1539
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 17: flour on it, so it just helps it really slide off.

1540
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 17: I'm not a fan of cornmeal because it's a little

1541
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 17: too coarse for my liking. But semelina works perfectly.

1542
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta try that because I'm not a huge just.

1543
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 17: A little flower, just a little flowers. Spread it all

1544
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 17: throughout the field and just shoots right.

1545
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 2: Off because I've I've used the corn meal because somebody

1546
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 2: recommended that to me. The problem is.

1547
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 17: It works well, but you still taste it and then

1548
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:58,799
Speaker 17: sits in and it burns at the bottom.

1549
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 2: That's the other problem, because if you use too much

1550
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 2: corn meal and it slides off with your pizza, and

1551
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 2: then you take that pizza out later and there's enough

1552
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: corn meal sitting on your stone in there, that thing

1553
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 2: will go up. And now you're putting out a fire.

1554
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 4: Exact corn flower just burn right off because it's just

1555
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 4: a little amount.

1556
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: That's actually good. That's that's it for a cooking segment,

1557
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 2: very much. Could you foresee could you foresee a time

1558
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: when you're done playing that, you know, you got the

1559
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 2: chef had on and you're sliding pizzas in and out

1560
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 2: of the shop.

1561
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:33,520
Speaker 17: Somewhere there's a good shot open up some type of bakery.

1562
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 2: So like it would be a bakery slash pizza yea

1563
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 2: or yes, yeah.

1564
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 17: I consider myself more of a baker than a cook.

1565
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 17: So okay, I like ma doze breads, all that baked,

1566
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 17: any type of cookies, stuff like that.

1567
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 4: That's my wheelhouse.

1568
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 2: Okay, so more of like a.

1569
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 3: Pizzer like yeah, artisans, let me just out that most

1570
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 3: of the time when offensive linemen retire, they do one

1571
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 3: of two things. One you turn into Eric wood who's

1572
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 3: long and lean and trim, and the other side goes

1573
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 3: the other way, which kind of makes me look at

1574
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 3: you out of the corner.

1575
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: Are you gonna go the other way?

1576
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're gonna be a baker, you gotta

1577
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 3: be you know, half to it's a lot of rampling.

1578
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really eat it that much. I enjoy

1579
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 4: cooking for other people so lovely.

1580
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 17: It's busy in it. I forget to eat sometimes, and

1581
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 17: like as soon as the off season hits, I dropped

1582
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 17: twenty thirty pounds, Like it's nothing, just because I don't want.

1583
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 4: To eat as much.

1584
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 17: So but when I say I'll be smaller if probably

1585
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 17: like two sixty two seventy, so still large for regular persons.

1586
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1587
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 4: Again, I'm three thirty right now, so.

1588
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 3: That's still it's a chore to keep that weight on, right, Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

1589
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 3: I got you.

1590
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, look at that even in the kitchen.

1591
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: He trusts the process. There you go. That's Connor McGovern

1592
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 2: joining us as player. Appearances are brought to you by

1593
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: Tim Horton's, the official coffee of the Buffalo Bills. Will

1594
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 2: take a break and finish up with some of your

1595
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: final thoughts on the tweet cheet next here on one

1596
01:20:46,920 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Stay with us all right back here on

1597
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 2: one of Bill's Live Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. Good conversation

1598
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: there with Connor McGovern. I could see him running his

1599
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: own little shot. Yeah, you can see him doing it.

1600
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: He loves it. Oh yeah, you can tell like he

1601
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,759
Speaker 2: has the whole team over all the time he's cooking. Yeah,

1602
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 2: good for him. I mean you're talking major appetites there,

1603
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 2: like you got to Like I remember seeing it on

1604
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks back in the summer, Remember where they went

1605
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: to his house and they asked him, like how many

1606
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: pizzas are you making here for this group? And it's like, oh,

1607
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 2: I had to make about twenty four pizzas. I was

1608
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 2: like twenty, Like you got one oven, bro right, Like

1609
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 2: the most you can get in there is probably three max,

1610
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 2: Like maybe four if you make him a little small

1611
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 2: thing too. How I mean he's got to start working

1612
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 2: on that. Oh yeah, Like you've got a couple of days, right,

1613
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 2: like your dough ball, Like in a perfect world, In

1614
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 2: a perfect world, a real pizza maker would tell you

1615
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: that you make your dough and then you let it

1616
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 2: sit for twenty four hours in the fridge, and then

1617
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: you get it out to room temperature, roll it out,

1618
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 2: and get to work. I don't know if he's doing

1619
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: all that. Maybe he is. He seems to be dedicated

1620
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 2: to process. Like I was just talking to him about

1621
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: where he might set up shop when he retires. I said, well,

1622
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 2: don't go out to Arizona because they got to change

1623
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: the whole Yeah. Yeah, you have to change the whole

1624
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 2: science of the balance of the ingredients and everything because

1625
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 2: of the altitude and how dry it is out there.

1626
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: There's no humidity dough. It's hard to make the right dough. Yeah,

1627
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 2: you can't get it to rise the right way. And

1628
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: he knew all that. So I was like, Oh, this guy,

1629
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: he knows he's on it. So that was a cool conversation.

1630
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: We want to get to the tweet sheet to get

1631
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: some of your final thoughts on what element of the

1632
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 2: Bills you feel must be productive against the Broncos on

1633
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon in the Divisional playoff, Bill Banter says the

1634
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 2: offensive line needs to be ready to run block. The

1635
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three Cowboys game and the twenty twenty five

1636
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 2: Steelers game should be the blueprints. He's talking about the

1637
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: Bills against those teams in those years Hey, if James

1638
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 2: Cook can rumble for one hundred and eighty, I'm all

1639
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 2: for it. Oh yeah, that's what he did against the

1640
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Monday night game. Yeah, remember they kept

1641
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: calling the same play. It's easier said than done. It is,

1642
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: as Marv used to say, it's simple, but not easy.

1643
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 2: Frank says. The Bills defense getting stops on third down. Yeah,

1644
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 2: third down stops are good.

1645
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 3: I'm all for that. That's yeah. All this stuff is

1646
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 3: really key. Yet I thought it was huge against Jacksonville

1647
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 3: when they started the game out with a three and out.

1648
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 3: Remember the second second down was Milano tackling for a loss,

1649
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 3: you know, triggering and getting into the backfield and tracking.

1650
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 2: The guy for loss.

1651
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 3: And then it's again completion well on Trey at Trey White. Yep,

1652
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 3: it's his first PBu of the of the day.

1653
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 2: So I thought that was huge.

1654
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 3: And then the Bills came out, they started on their

1655
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 3: own I don't know what six years hardline or whatever,

1656
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 3: and they had an eight play drive back in the day,

1657
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 3: back when analytics were in their infancy. We had Marv

1658
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 3: gave us a presentation about stats and all that and

1659
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 3: if you can an offense that is successful even if

1660
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 3: they don't score. Is when you put together a seven

1661
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 3: play drive, because that's enough plays on average to change

1662
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: the field back flip to get the field back. So,

1663
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 3: even if you don't score, if you can put together

1664
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 3: seven plays, which is obviously a first down and then

1665
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:32,759
Speaker 3: maybe two first downs, and then that switches the field

1666
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 3: enough so as to put your opponent gain the advantage back.

1667
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 3: And the Bills did that right out of the gate.

1668
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 3: That had an eight play drive out of the gate,

1669
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 3: out of their own end, deep in their own end,

1670
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 3: and certainly they punted from midfield, so it, you know,

1671
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 3: put the Jaguars back. Although the Jaguars took it and

1672
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 3: went down and got the field goal they did. Still

1673
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 3: you gotta make them go the long way. Well, yeah,

1674
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 3: you made him earn.

1675
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: It, Dean says. The run game, including some needed runs

1676
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: by Josh even he's banged up. Also our pass rush,

1677
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 2: if you can't get there, get your hands up. I

1678
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 2: thought the Bills defensive lineman were outstanding in deflecting passes

1679
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: last week. Dion Walker had one. I think Epanessa had one.

1680
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 2: Dorian Williams had one. They coach it like Steve and

1681
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 2: I see it on the practice field. They are preaching it.

1682
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 2: If you're not going to get home, get your hands up.

1683
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 2: And we heard dan Orlowski talking with us about it yesterday.

1684
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 2: You know, Dion Walker puts his left hand up because

1685
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 2: he's facing a righty quarterback, you know, the mirror image

1686
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Put your left hand up, it's more

1687
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 2: likely to get in the passing lane. So details like

1688
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,959
Speaker 2: that are huge. They matter. It matters.

1689
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 3: I mean, you've seen it a million well, I've seen

1690
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 3: it a million times where you know, the quarterback throws

1691
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 3: it out of there and it just misses the defender,

1692
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 3: you know, goes over the right, over the top of

1693
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 3: his head, or between his arms, goes just to the

1694
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 3: right of his left arm, or just to the left

1695
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 3: of his right arm.

1696
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just they get it out of there.

1697
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it seems like would be easier to bat

1698
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 3: it down than it obviously is, because the quarterbacks got

1699
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 3: to he's got a spot he's got to throw it to.

1700
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 3: Now the d lineman doesn't know where that spot is,

1701
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 3: but the quarterback has to put it on target, and

1702
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 3: so it's got to come out of there the right way,

1703
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 3: and you got to feel it and get it, get

1704
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 3: your arms on. I I it's impressive that the Bills

1705
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 3: have made that such a big part of their pass rush.

1706
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 3: They have not been ineffective at pressuring quarterbacks, but they

1707
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 3: just haven't gotten them on the ground a lot. And

1708
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 3: that's been you know, the thing that kind of stands

1709
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 3: out in the stat sheet. They don't get that many sacks,

1710
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 3: but man o, man, they do affect the passer enough,

1711
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 3: so it's to give their back end a chance.

1712
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was I remember looking at the end

1713
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: of the game because it seemed to be a significant

1714
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 2: part of the defensive effort. We obviously knew that Trey

1715
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: White had three pass breakups to lead the team, but

1716
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 2: at the end of the game they had nine, and

1717
01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 2: a lot of them were the guys in the front seven.

1718
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 2: You know, not to mention the two interceptions. So, I mean,

1719
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 2: they did a really good job of getting hands in

1720
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 2: passing lanes last week. And I mean it's not necessarily

1721
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 2: a takeaway, but an incompletion now it's second and ten

1722
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 2: or now it's third and eight, and you know, it

1723
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 2: changes the complexion of an opponent's drive. Carl says, tight ends.

1724
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 2: They caught ninety five for one thousand and fifteen yards

1725
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 2: and six touchdowns against Denver this season. Yeah, tight ends

1726
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 2: were productive against the Broncos. I think Buffalo's crew can

1727
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 2: be as well. So hopefully that is in fact the case.

1728
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 2: And that's where play action is going to help your

1729
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 2: tight ends the most, if you could, if your run

1730
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,520
Speaker 2: game can at least be effective, you force those linebackers

1731
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 2: to cheat up off of play action and then there's

1732
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 2: more space behind them for guys like Dalton and Kid

1733
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 2: and Dawson Knox to exploit, along with Khalil Shakir for

1734
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 2: that matter. Andrews says, special teams is a big one.

1735
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 2: Their coverage is not so good, so I feel we

1736
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 2: can attack that, like to see Cook in more down

1737
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 2: the field options. That's if they can't get the running

1738
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,679
Speaker 2: game going. And just as much pressure on Nicks. He's

1739
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 2: careless when he rushes the play. Yeah, maybe it's feast

1740
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 2: or famine with him when he gets chaos, and he can.

1741
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 3: And when it gets chaos, and Danie Roofski told us

1742
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 3: yesterday Nicks is good and he does have some pretty

1743
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 3: good fourth quarter numbers.

1744
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:29,839
Speaker 2: Pretty good fourth quarter numbers.

1745
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 3: I'm the special teams thing is real in a game

1746
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 3: like this where Sean Payton may spend the entire regular

1747
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 3: season not giving a hoot about special teams. Just get

1748
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 3: give us the ball back, would you. Uh, this is

1749
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 3: a game where he might say, Okay, give me, give

1750
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 3: me three trick plays, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1751
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 3: it's easy to say that when you've seen him do

1752
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 3: that in a Super Bowl. But that's what this game

1753
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 3: is going to be like. They've got to pull out

1754
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 3: all the stops to win.

1755
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 2: Daniel says, blocking we're a bigger line than they are,

1756
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 2: so we should be able to place them in the

1757
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: run game. We also need to keep Josh as clean

1758
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 2: as possible, chipping on the edge, moving the pocket. Quick

1759
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: passes can also keep their monster pass rush at bay.

1760
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 2: And then Lauren says, can we establish running the run?

1761
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 2: That just sounded funny to me. The loss of run

1762
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: blocking wide receivers like Shavers and Davis concerns me. Hardman,

1763
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 2: Samuel don't run block like those two. That's why they

1764
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 2: have Christian Wilkerson. And you still have Keon Coleman, so

1765
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be terribly worried about that. And you still

1766
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 2: have your tight ends like Jackson Hawes and Reggie Gillian

1767
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 2: got a long way to go, we'll see. That's it

1768
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 2: for us today. Thurman Thomas, the Hall of Famer, joins

1769
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 2: us on tomorrow's show. We'll see you at once.