WEBVTT - Can another tablet challenge the iPad? 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.000 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:09.000 It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:18.040 tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone, 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.160 Welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulette and 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:22.840 I am an editor here at how staff works dot com. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.960 Sitting across from me as always a senior writer, Jonathan Strickland. 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.440 The pit is completely enclosed and it's full of leathery 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:34.080 objects like eggs or something. Wow. I might even know 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.480 where that came from. Really I haven't. I haven't seen 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.199 it all, but I've seen parts of it. Yeah, Na 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:45.560 clause the movie right, that is not where that's from. 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.120 It has nothing to do with what we're going to 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:51.519 talk about today either. Nope, we have done a podcast. Actually, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.360 I think we've done a couple really, either directly related 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.800 to or tangentially related to the Apple iPad. Yeah, we 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.600 actually talked about it to when we were still doing 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.240 Tech Stuff Live, the video show. Um, we talked about 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.760 it because we were doing news topics and it was 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.920 trending right about the time we were finishing up that show. Yeah, 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.600 that was back when it was just a rumored device. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.800 And then of course it turned out the rumors were 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.360 in fact true, and the iPad hit the market. And 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.520 you may recall, and we'll talk about this again at 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.200 the end of the year, that at the beginning of 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.320 last year I predicted that the iPad would come out, 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.160 which was correct, but that it would totally flop, and 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.760 that was about as wrong as you can get. Yeah, 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.880 as a matter of fact, I read just today, the 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.040 day we are recording this, that the rate of adoption, 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.560 according to mp ARE, the rate of adoption for iPad 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.160 UH users is faster than that of DVD. And of 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.319 course they I don't know why. I guess the DVD 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:51.520 was one of the fastest adoption rates for new technologies. Um, 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.560 but yeah, they always they it seems like they always 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.440 use DVDs as a benchmark. But I think four point 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.920 five million iPads they said in a quarter, which is 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.240 pretty significant. Well, you think about DVD d s when 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.320 they first when the players first hit the market, they 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.800 were incredibly expensive. Yeah, they were. Well, it's like a 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.639 lot of the different technologies to CDs were the same way, right, 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.520 But the point being that that the iPad can do 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.560 more than a DVD player could At the time when 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.919 DVDs first came out, that's true, and the iPad is 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.880 less expensive than the initial DVD players when they hit 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.440 the market and far more portable than those initial DVD 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.520 players as well. But this is not an ad for 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:30.000 Apple iPad because they don't need it. Well, that's the thing. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.200 Once you come out with a successful technology, other people 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.880 will seize the opportunity to come up with a competitor 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.040 and uh try their hand at the market. And we've 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.120 actually seen a few of these competitors at the market. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:42.720 Some of them tried to hit the market before the 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.320 iPad came out, and you don't hear about them very 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.560 much because they just didn't really make a big splash 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.200 in the consumer marketplace. So like the Arcos tablets for 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.359 for example, those are um those are tablets that run 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.919 on either Android, Linux, or Windows. They have models that 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.760 run on each of those operating systems, mostly Android recently, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.840 because that seems to be the new approach to tablets, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.200 because the tablet form factor is not new, No, not 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.280 in the least. It's been around for a decade or so. Oka. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.359 The only place that I've really encountered the traditional tablets. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.760 And when I say tablets, uh, they don't look if 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.720 you haven't seen these, they don't look like the new 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.520 crop of tablets. These are almost full sized PCs. Most 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.680 of the ones I've seen are essentially a notebook form 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.880 factor with a screen that will flip over and allow 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.080 you to fold it back on top of the computer 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.120 so that it it functions as a tablet. But it's 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.240 the size it's got, you know, I guess probably around 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.240 fifteen inch, well maybe not fifteen twelve thirteen screen. It's 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.920 big compared to these newer tablet and there's there's still 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.800 a few of those out there, and we used a 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.480 lot of medical professions. We saw like the was it 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.760 Dell that had the duo the duo that's coming out, 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.720 which is it looks like a netbook computer or a 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:07.800 notebook computer. The the screen swivels within the frame, and 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:09.960 then you can fold the frame down so the screen 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.360 is face up and it becomes a tablet. Although as 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.400 you know, the big problem there is that you've just 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:18.279 doubled the thickness of the screen. It's not as lightweight 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.880 or portable as other tablet form factors. And then you have, 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.960 like the Lenovo. You one idea of which may or 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:26.720 may not ever see the light of day. It was 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:31.000 something that blew me away at CES two and that 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.120 one again look like a notebook computer, but you could 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.159 detach the screen and the screen would become a new 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.840 tablet computer. Back at CS when they showed it off, 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:45.160 the entire device, when it was together, the keyboard and 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.800 the screen ran on Windows seven. When you detached the screen, 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.480 it switched to a Linux operating system, and then when 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.760 you would reattach it, it it would go back to Windows. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:05:00.200 It would supposedly sink whatever application you were in, so 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.160 that let's say you're watching a movie, well you might 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.520 be watching the movie in one movie player in Lennox. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.120 When you plug it back in, it would switch to 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.680 the Windows based movie player and pick up at the 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.520 same place where you left off in the film. That's impressive. Supposedly. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.760 I did not see it work when I was at CES, 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.279 but that's what that was the goal. I mean, I 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:23.000 think they were still working on the synchronization. And back 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.039 over the summer of two thousand ten, the word got 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:30.080 out that Lenovo was was abandoning at least part of 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.760 that strategy. Uh, there's now a rumor that it will 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.240 come out the Lenovo you one will eventually come out. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:37.640 It was supposed to come out in the summer and 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.120 it did not. There's now a rumor that it may 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.600 come out with an Android operating system for the tablet 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.000 part um. We'll have to wait and see. That would 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:48.800 be very interesting to me if that did, because it 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.919 answers a lot of the problems I have with the 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.680 tablet form factor. So the question is, now that the 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.760 Apple iPad is out and it's so successful, do any 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:02.480 other tablets have in a shot of the same sort 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.880 of success or even moderate success within the consumer marketplace? 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.960 Or is the iPad a unique device? A few weeks 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.440 ago we well, I don't know exactly when it's running 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.159 compared to this one, So I should say earlier we 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.680 discussed what early adopters are, and for the most part, 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.479 I would say that a lot of the people who 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:26.440 have bought iPads at this point are early adopters or 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.000 radio stations using them for promotional purposes. Because there is 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.440 a there's a radio station in the same building we're in, 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.640 and I see people on the elevator with an iPad 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:39.159 in its box, going downstairs from the radio station, and 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.120 you know, they'll ask me how to get back to 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.200 the interstates. So I'm going, okay, so you just picked 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.240 up your price. I got it. There's almost a meme 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.839 about it's kind of fun about iPads being prizes. Yeah, 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.320 I've seen a lot um, but yeah, I mean that 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.400 the the iPad actually came out in uh in April 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.600 of this year, hit store shelves, um, and it's starting 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.280 to make its way to regular retail stores. Target just 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.719 announced that it would be carrying it. UM just someone 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.600 as a matter of fact this past weekend. UM. And Uh. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.280 The thing is, I think I'm not sure that anyone 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.560 else was anticipating the iPad to be as much of 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:18.640 a success as it is, because I think that's part 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.640 of why, uh, some of them have been so slow 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.000 to get a device out the door. But um, in 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.640 in their rush to announce new products, I think they 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.960 may have been I think now at this point the 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.960 people who are developing tablets are on the right track 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.480 because some of them rushed too fast and came up 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.440 with sort of half maked attempts, and some of the 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.760 newer models that that look like they'll be out in 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.720 the in the coming months, I think may have a 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.640 shot at at least taking some of the potential market 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.440 share from the Apple iPad. So let's talk a little 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.679 bit about some of those. Uh, the one I wanted 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.160 to start with is the one I think is potentially 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.280 the strongest. Okay, which maybe you agree or disagree, But 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.840 the Samsung Galaxy Tab. As oft the time we're recording this, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:08.120 I would certainly say it probably has the strongest chance. Yeah, 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.080 there's one other that we'll get to that I think 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.040 has a pretty good chance as well, but it's hard 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.400 to say because we know so little about it at 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:19.800 the moment. But the Galaxy Tab is an interesting tablet device. Now, 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.000 it's it's got a seven inch screen, so it's smaller 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.160 than the iPad. iPad screen is I think nine point 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.200 seven inches, so the Samsung Galaxy Tab is a little 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:32.360 smaller than the iPad. Uh. And it's it's got it's 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.080 running the Android operating System two point two, which is 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.840 in Froyo for those of you keeping score. Uh, that's 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.760 the that's the most recent Android build as of the 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.880 recording of this podcast. Now it's um, it's going to 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:50.559 in in Europe. It's got phone capabilities. We learned that 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.880 when it comes to the United States, those phone capabilities 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.520 will be stripped out, it will not run. You will 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.760 not be able to make phone calls on a cellular 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.760 system using the Galaxy Tab. Now you will be able 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.400 to use something like Skype, so you can still make 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:05.640 calls over the device. It's just it's not gonna have 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.880 its own dedicated phone number in the US. In Europe 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:13.079 it's a different story. And uh, you know it's gonna 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.760 have all these other elements, like a sixteen It comes 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.560 and I think either a sixteen gigabyte or a thirty 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.280 two gigabyte version, and you can also get a micro 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.000 SD card to give you up to thirty two gigabytes 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.800 extra storage. Now that's a big difference between the iPad 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.880 and the Galaxy Tab. The iPad comes in very specific, 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:35.679 uh models, and you can't upgrade the memory on an 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.640 individual model. If you if you've got the what are 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.520 they are? They at sixteen and thirty two and four. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:44.520 So if you've got a sixteen gigabyte model of the 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.960 iPad and you wanted to increase the memory to thirty 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.920 two gigabytes, the only option you have is to go 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.520 out and buy a thirty two gigabyte iPad. You can't 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.640 upgrade that memory. This this has built the Galaxy tab 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.640 is built so that you can upgrade the memory yourself. Uh. 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.880 It also will run flash because Android two point two 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.959 does UM, so that sets it apart from the iPad. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.680 And it has cameras built into it, which the iPad 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.600 does not, although we expect the next iPad probably will have. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.800 It would shock me if the next model the iPad 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.040 does not have cameras. Yeah, and I would like to 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.559 point out too that for those of you who are 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.120 going to write in and tell us that about the 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:23.200 newer developments with Apple related to flash, yes we are aware. 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.800 For those of you who are not familiar with this um. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.600 Apple announced a few weeks ago that they would permit 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:36.560 um people who are using flash to develop applications for 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.719 the iOS which runs the iPod, Touch, the iPhone and 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.080 the iPad. They can they can go ahead and do that. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:44.880 They weren't allowed to do that. But it is not 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.400 the same as opening Safari and running going to a 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.480 website that uses a lot of flash and watching a 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.560 flash video or something on it. It's a little different, 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.480 right like, so if you if you want to make 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.520 it a concession. The thing I always run into back 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.760 when I was back when I still had my smartphone. 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:06.040 My smartphone died, so we can have a moment of silence. Anyway. Uh, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.120 my smartphone ran Android one point six, which did not 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.319 was not capable of running flash. So if I went 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.080 to any restaurant website where the menu was programmed in flash, 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.600 I could not see the menu. It was very irritating 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.640 because that was one of the really useful things of 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.400 a smartphone. You're out, you're out, you want to check 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.480 and see what this restaurant's menus like. You don't want 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.440 to have to actually go to the restaurant to find out, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.200 and then you discover that they've put their menu and 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:35.000 flash and you can't view it. Very irritating. Anyway, Samson, 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.120 Galaxy Tab not a problem. You could be able to 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:38.760 You would be able to see that sort of stuff. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.040 And Uh, in the US, we don't know how expensive 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.800 it's going to be yet as of the recording of 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.880 this podcast, it will probably be that information will probably 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.120 be available by the time this publishes. But in the 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:53.400 UK it was just announced, uh that it will retail 0:11:53.440 --> 0:12:01.720 for five pounds almost six pounds expensive, right, so uh, 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.200 and the article I read pointed out that that is 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:08.240 seventy pounds more than the highest, uh than the most 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.839 advanced iPad that's on the market in the UK, So 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.360 it costs more than the iPad. Now granted, this is 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.440 an unsubsidized price. As far as I can tell, it's 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.559 not linked to any particular carrier. So it may be 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.320 that there are subsidized versions of the Galaxy Tab. Like 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.520 if you went to the was it Orange? Is that 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.360 one of the ones in the UK? I'd say, you 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.120 go to Orange and they're carrying the Samsung Galaxy Tab 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:35.720 and you've got it through them, you might be able 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.080 to find a subsidized price through them. I don't know 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.320 because I don't live in the UK, So all your 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.480 Brits can write to me and tell me whether I'm 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.600 right or wrong, and maybe I'll pay attention and then 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.360 uh So, anyway, anyway, the Galaxy Tab I think has 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.920 the potential to really challenge the iPad. It's the Android 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:58.800 operating system is definitely a different system than the iOS UM. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.480 I usually referred to it as you get out of 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:06.480 it what you put into it. Like iOS works, Apple 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.360 has such a firm grasp on the all the apps 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.120 that can go into it, and uh and the standards 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.200 they have to meet in order to become an app 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.520 for the iOS that the benefit for the consumer is 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:22.720 that whenever you get an app, it's going to do 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.160 what it's supposed to do, or at least there's a 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.920 very good chance for it, because Apple has very strict 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:32.640 about that. Uh, Android, it's more of a coin flip 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.680 type of situation. Sometimes things aren't gonna work the way 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.120 you thought they would because Android wants a more open environment. Well, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.600 that means you have more flexibility and more choice, but 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.480 you don't necessarily the things you choose may not necessarily 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.400 work the best way right. As with many things, there 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.360 is an upside in and downside to both models exactly. So, 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.720 I think the Galaxy table appeal to people who are 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.479 a little more do it yourselfers than the iPad does necessarily. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.760 Plus the camera I think makes a big difference until 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.920 the iPad comes out with a camera model, Um that's 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.839 gonna I mean you think about things like video conferencing, 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:12.200 like the FaceTime technology that Apple has designed, that's ideal 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.440 for something like the iPad. You know it, you'd be 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.640 it'd be easier to see someone on that screen than 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:22.440 an iPhone or iPod touch screen. Um, yeah, you know it. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.840 It's a lot of the things that you mentioned about 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:30.960 the Samsung Galaxy Tab are common to uh the Android tablets. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:35.080 Um that I've read about devices even even what I 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:40.120 consider regional at least at this point, UM, devices like 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.960 expansion ports in some cases USB ports. These are things 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.760 that some of the people have complained about not being 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.920 on the iPad or even h d M. I out, yeah, 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.480 exactly that that kind of stuff where you have standard 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.920 ports like Apple hates standard ports. Apple likes proprietary ports 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.960 where you have to have connectors in order to to 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.800 use that. Not on reproduct, but on many products, you 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.440 have to have a special pin connector and then uh 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.680 an adapter or a dock of some sort in order 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.440 to be able to attach it to other technology. I 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.280 see what you're saying. I see interesting, Um, But now 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.760 I was I was thinking specifically two of some of 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.960 the tablets that were at least not for a while 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.880 going to see like the we tab in Germany originally 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.800 called the we pad get it iPad we pad um 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.440 developed by a company called meg and then I have 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.480 to buy wee pads from my puppies. The Olive pad 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.880 uh in India. Um, these are all devices that are 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.680 coming out around the world that are using UH Android's 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.440 operating system. And there's also the Dell Streak, which is weird. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.480 Dell Streak kind of walks the line between tablet and smartphone. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.760 Now I am totally singing the Man in Black in 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.920 my head right because it walks the line. It does 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.800 walk the line the But the Dell Streak has a 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.160 five inch screen, which is you know, that's the it's 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.640 a it's a little too big for for it to 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.560 be like a smartphone, but it's a little too small 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:08.520 for most tablets. It's a weird size. It's interesting that 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.080 they went with that. It also runs Android one point six. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.520 It was one of the things that Jason Heiner was 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.840 complaining about his review in August of back on zd net. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.440 He was basically saying, it's a little large for a 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.200 smartphone and a little small for a tablet. Plus it's 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.920 running an older version version of Android. Yeah. However, from 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.760 what I understand, Dell intends to upgrade that to frow 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.560 you by the end of yes. Yes, and it has 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.120 a it does a Giga Hurts snap Dragon processor, so 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.280 it's it's got a lot of PEP to it, but 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.720 the same sort of thing as a lot of smartphones 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.040 have right now. Uh. And it's got the rear facing 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.640 in front facing camera. It's it can hold up to 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:53.160 a two gigabytes of memory, and it's SD card that's 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.480 just memory, not not storage space. Five twelve megabytes from 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.880 five and twelve megabytes RAM and then two gigabytes of 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.840 microSD memory. It's got a microst card slot that can 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.000 allow you to store up to sixteen gigabytes of are 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.720 Actually I'm sorry, sixteen gigabytes are included with the Dell Streak. 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:14.200 I don't know how much it can it's capable of holding. Uh, 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.680 and I know what retails for like five fifty bucks, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.879 which is pretty expensive when you compare it to again, 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.840 the iPad. Yeah, you know, when you're looking at the 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.720 size of it. There are some other things too. Apparently 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:29.119 the WiFi built into the Dell Streak is eight or 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:33.840 two DOT eleven, B and G not in UM. And 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.520 it doesn't support flash in the browser at least this 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.800 is according to the chart. It's Android one point six. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.679 It won't Yeah, yeah, so you know. This is according 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.639 to a j S Shindies article in PC World India 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.120 as of October five. Um. But it does. The Dell 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.280 Streak does have one feature that I think is pretty useful. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.000 What's up? And it's not even a software feature, it's 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.119 a hardware thing. What is it? It's got gorilla glass, yes, 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.480 which I think is really awesome. Grilla glass is a 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:04.480 very um strong impact resistant from what I understand the 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.240 form of glass, which is good if you're going to 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:10.520 carry around a small device that is easily dropped, as 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.000 many of us have with them of these things. The 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.960 Samsung Galaxy Tab may end up having gorilla glass as well. 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.160 I've read a report on that the and Dell also 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.440 plans on coming out with a seven inch tablet later 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:26.400 in and then possibly come out with a ten inch tablet. 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.880 So we it. Maybe it was like Dell is gonna 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.520 try and pepper this market with devices going all the 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.040 way down to three inches, which presumably would be a 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.440 smartphone up to ten inches, So they're really looking and 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.640 maybe that this is one of those things with strategy 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.359 of throw everything against the wall and see what sticks 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.600 and then concentrate on that. Yeah. I think. Um, I 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:51.080 think the iPad has proven that some people uh like 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.680 the form factor of a tablet. I mean, obviously, we've 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.159 we've proven that the smartphone is a good size and 0:18:56.280 --> 0:19:00.520 form factor. So um, I think as far as tablets go, 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.240 we've reached the point at which the manufacturers are ready 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:05.800 and willing to go ahead and give it a try. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.800 But we're gonna see a variety of sizes, um and 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.440 feature sets come out for you know, another probably year, 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.719 maybe even two years, until people figure out, oh, well 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.920 they like this size, that size and that size. And 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.040 you know, we're only going to make so many of 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.000 this one size because we can only sell you know, 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.280 ten thousand of them a year. But you know, it's 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.320 enough where we can capture part of the market. Based 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.359 upon what I've heard from my pad users, I would 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.879 say that the size is less important than the weight. Yeah, 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.359 it's a heavy little piece of equipment. Yeah, so I 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.719 think a seven inch device, if it weighs less than 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.520 the iPad, if it's less dense, then that might have 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.960 an advantage. We should probably talk. I'm sorry you're about 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.880 to say something, well, I wanted before we move on 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.440 from the Google Android stuff. I think that's something very 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:58.199 apparently fairly recent. Um, that's very interesting. Uh, and It 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:00.800 came from an article actually, an of view that Gareth 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.719 Vivas of Tech Grade ar H did with Google's director 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:08.679 of Products for Mobile, Hugo bearra Um. And Google is 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.840 saying that Android isn't ready for the tablet scene as 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.359 of right now. Um, they're saying that now I should 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.040 point out that Google Android operating system. Uh. If you're 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:22.880 wondering where froyo comes from, it's frozen yogurt slang. Uh. 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.280 And they name their stuff after I guess. There are 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.760 releases after I guess desserts. Would you say, yeah, yeah, 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.000 they're old desserts like a Claire donut goes and they're 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.600 going in alphabetic order. So yeah, the next version is 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:38.399 is cupcake. Oh yeah, the next version is gingerbread, and 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.400 the version after that is supposed to be honeycomb from 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:44.520 what from what I understand, but um, basically, uh, Mr 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.600 Barras said, you know, look, you know, Android is a 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.760 great operating system, but really the Android market is not 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.920 ready for devices larger than a smartphone. Um, they're the 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:59.040 applic the applications are not there yet, um. And Froyo 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.080 is not designed to used on a tablet. But there's 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.959 a probable probability that Gingerbread the next release will be 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.240 and probably honeycome, I would imagine if not, you know, Gingerbread, 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.760 so it I think some of the from what I've read, 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:17.840