Speaker 1: The nick A Gliser Podcast, Glaser, here's Nikki.
Speaker 2: Hello here, I am welcome to the show. It's a
Speaker 2: Nicky Glaizer podcast. My mom is in studio today.
Speaker 3: Hi Nikki, Hi my everybody.
Speaker 2: Hiver animal print? Yeah, Brian Franie's here, Noah's here?
Speaker 4: Was that song and one point one speed? Or am
Speaker 4: I going insane?
Speaker 2: One point one?
Speaker 4: Did that feel like it was slightly faster?
Speaker 2: Like one tenth faster.
Speaker 4: I just I feel like I'm losing my mind.
Speaker 2: I mean that is really an imperceptible amount of speed.
Speaker 2: More like, I feel like you start to notice when
Speaker 2: it's one point twenty five. But below that, I think
Speaker 2: you could trick everyone, except when you're listening to comedy
Speaker 2: because last go ha, like people's like when you're listening
Speaker 2: to stand up because I always speed it up and
Speaker 2: then the laughter sounds and saying that.
Speaker 4: Sounds like everyone's just making fun of the comedian. Real funny.
Speaker 3: I do like listening to fast forward on podcasts. Yeah,
Speaker 3: get those done.
Speaker 2: Get them done, get them done, get information in fast
Speaker 2: And there's.
Speaker 3: No reason to listen to somebody hesitate.
Speaker 2: No, because that would build suspense, and who needs that
Speaker 2: in this kind of world? I need to know what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen right now. Tell me I don't need any
Speaker 2: kind of I can't even like I sometimes will see
Speaker 2: stand ups that have really pregnant pauses in between jokes,
Speaker 2: and I just cannot.
Speaker 3: Well, they're waiting for a laugh.
Speaker 2: No, they're not like the laugh. They let the laughter
Speaker 2: die down and then they take a sip of water
Speaker 2: and then they like hold for a beat. And it's
Speaker 2: like very impressive to me because I'm desperate to ever
Speaker 2: have any moment where anyone can start letting in the
Speaker 2: thought she sucks. So if I keep dancing, no one
Speaker 2: ever thinks she's ugly and she sucks. And that's why
Speaker 2: you keep That's why I talk so much, is because
Speaker 2: you don't let anyone in to have the because when
Speaker 2: there's silence, there's thoughts.
Speaker 3: I got you. Yeah. Now I feel like I talk
Speaker 3: too much? When and is that? What was that directed
Speaker 3: at me?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 5: No, okay, are you a comedian that has pausitive?
Speaker 4: Is there anything more vulnerable than taking a drink of
Speaker 4: water while you're doing stand up?
Speaker 2: I literally have never once sipped from water on stage.
Speaker 2: And I go on stage sometimes for an hour and
Speaker 2: thirty minutes, and I have never once taken a sip
Speaker 2: of water because even though I've desperately needed it, because
Speaker 2: I do, I don't want anyone to have a moment
Speaker 2: to hate me.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it really is. That's insane.
Speaker 2: If you also, when I say good night, I am
Speaker 2: instantly walking off the stage. I do a thing now
Speaker 2: where I'll wave and I'll try to linger, but I
Speaker 2: am walking as I wave. I would never just stand
Speaker 2: there and take it in because that's the other time.
Speaker 5: For people to think, what are they gonna do?
Speaker 2: That wasn't as good as I wanted it to be?
Speaker 3: Like are they going to slow down on the class?
Speaker 2: Or I might see them like getting up and starting
Speaker 2: to talk amongst themselves about me, Like I just don't
Speaker 2: want to hear any feedback that I might not they
Speaker 2: might not like me, And so I just run off
Speaker 2: stage instantly. People like stand out there and bask in it.
Speaker 2: I could never ever do that. I'm like Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: I want that Florida open up and just to fall
Speaker 2: underneath it. I don't even like to walk. That is
Speaker 2: my dream is lowered.
Speaker 6: Where people are specifically buying tickets for your show, They're
Speaker 6: not just like showing up to comedy club but the roster.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: It's been like this for years, and I will never
Speaker 2: lose the feeling that I'm not good, and you don't
Speaker 2: want me to lose that. I'm listening to my fans
Speaker 2: who love me so much and want me to have
Speaker 2: self esteem. No, you don't. You don't want me to
Speaker 2: get used to it or think that I'm cool or
Speaker 2: think that I'm good, because that is anti comedy to me.
Speaker 2: For me, I think there are some comedians that can
Speaker 2: like themselves and still be funny, but not me. I
Speaker 2: need to be desperate for your approval Otherwise the second
Speaker 2: I have I start going like I'm amazing and like
Speaker 2: I feel, it shifts and I get less funny. And
Speaker 2: we've seen it with like the best comedians that have
Speaker 2: finally found this massive success, they always take a dip
Speaker 2: because their audiences just applaud everything they say. They stop
Speaker 2: trying because you don't need to try. Its hard when
Speaker 2: everyone likes you for no reason because.
Speaker 3: Your face, well, you got to try to get better always.
Speaker 2: You just have to keep hating, finding new ways to
Speaker 2: hate yourself and be disappointed in yourself.
Speaker 3: Hurt it like that but I get it. I end
Speaker 3: up sharing that there.
Speaker 4: Was another way. I mean, I guess if you're so famous,
Speaker 4: if you're like Seinfeld or something, and everybody knows you,
Speaker 4: then it's hard. But like if you just make an
Speaker 4: effort to go out and perform in front of groups
Speaker 4: of people that aren't your fans, I think that helps too.
Speaker 2: That Yeah, that's good, and I do do.
Speaker 5: I do do.
Speaker 2: That a lot. I do sets all the time when
Speaker 2: I'm in LA and people know who I am and
Speaker 2: are excited to see me. But I never but I
Speaker 2: literally never even think about my audience as like because
Speaker 2: I think about of course, I think about the people
Speaker 2: that are coming to see me that are like fans
Speaker 2: of mine, but I think about the guy they brought
Speaker 2: with them who's never heard of me, or the woman
Speaker 2: that I met this weekend who said I had never
Speaker 2: heard of you before and now I'm a fan. Like
Speaker 2: I think about those people that kind of have to
Speaker 2: be sold on me and are kind of like or
Speaker 2: the people that are expecting me to have like the
Speaker 2: kind of tight roast set that I had at tom Brady,
Speaker 2: Like I'm thinking, oh, I'm going to disappoint those people
Speaker 2: because they expect me to like roast the front row,
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to do that. Down road there's
Speaker 2: I always am feeling like I'm disappointing people. But I
Speaker 2: think it's good.
Speaker 4: You could throw one roast in there just to you
Speaker 4: just say like you look like a pig or whatever
Speaker 4: and then move on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be great.
Speaker 2: Is if I look at them, then I then I
Speaker 2: will see them, and I can't see their faces because
Speaker 2: if I see that they're not having fun or like
Speaker 2: they're looking at their phone or something, I will take
Speaker 2: it too personally and I'll derail my set. So in
Speaker 2: order to roast them, I have to look at them,
Speaker 2: but I blur my eyes.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you said you can do that, and so.
Speaker 2: I don't see anyone. And I hope you don't take
Speaker 2: that offensively. If you're like someone who comes to my
Speaker 2: show and they're like, I want you to see me,
Speaker 2: like I go to Taylor Shop shows, there's no part
Speaker 2: of me that's like she saw me, Like I've lost
Speaker 2: that kind of That was like a hope I had
Speaker 2: when I saw Dave Matthews in high school.
Speaker 5: Now as a performer, I know you don't really.
Speaker 2: You can't and she doesn't people and goes, I love
Speaker 2: your outfit like she does look at people, but but
Speaker 2: she's just like, I'm not going to get seen by
Speaker 2: Taylor Ship. So if you're going to my show to
Speaker 2: get seen by me, I'm so sorry. Just DM me,
Speaker 2: I'll like your thing, or like, post a picture of me,
Speaker 2: and I'll DM you back thank you, and I will
Speaker 2: totally see you then. Yeah, but that's all I can
Speaker 2: meet and greets. I don't do that no more.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so proud of you forgiving those up.
Speaker 2: I see. So I put the mandate out for no
Speaker 2: more meet and greets after the roast because I was
Speaker 2: just adding all these dates, and Chris and I have
Speaker 2: been talking about like for safety measures and just for
Speaker 2: my health measure because it's just not about shaking hands.
Speaker 2: It's just too much and it's just it's exhausting, and
Speaker 2: because I like to give it my all and I
Speaker 2: actually do have fun at them, but like you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't keep doing things just because they're fun. Yes,
Speaker 2: my ass has been slightly graised by someone who my
Speaker 2: wife is a fan.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I like the roast you did tonight was a little
Speaker 2: bit different, but you did good kid like that. I
Speaker 2: have had enough of that. I will miss meeting so many.
Speaker 3: People people it's so much fun to be so.
Speaker 2: Fun, but it is tiring, and it's you know, if
Speaker 2: that's you can't keep going to raves your whole life.
Speaker 2: You might be someone who used to like go to
Speaker 2: raves or go out to parties. Like you could argue
Speaker 2: that's fun. Why don't you keep doing that? Like because
Speaker 2: you can't like and so it's not I'm not saying
Speaker 2: meet and greets aren't fun because I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people when they they come up and meet me
Speaker 2: at them, they go, I know you hate this, and
Speaker 2: it's like I don't. I I truly don't. It's just
Speaker 2: it's a whole other show. I have to be very
Speaker 2: charismatic and it's it's genuine. There's not any part of
Speaker 2: me that's like faking it. Maybe there is when a
Speaker 2: guy says something rude and I have to just be
Speaker 2: like okay, visir, but genuinely like besties who have met me,
Speaker 2: like you know that, I'm not faking that.
Speaker 5: I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: Like I met this weekend. There was a bestie that's
Speaker 2: listened to every show. I was so excited to meet her.
Speaker 2: I met, you know, we met what's her name, Renee
Speaker 2: at Eras in Indie. I was so excited to meet her.
Speaker 2: Please find me you know who she was? By chance,
Speaker 2: if she would have said, I'm Renee Guitar, okay, I
Speaker 2: would have been like, oh, of course, because I've even
Speaker 2: commented on her name when she's been in the lives
Speaker 2: watching me play guitar. I'm like, your name's guitar. Please
Speaker 2: don't judge me. I'm so sorry to bastardize your last name.
Speaker 2: And so I would have known, but she just said Renee,
Speaker 2: so I didn't connect it.
Speaker 3: She's someone with the guy that was in the text,
Speaker 3: and that's her husband. And she wrote to me laughing
Speaker 3: so much because she was like, that's so funny. You
Speaker 3: thought he was gay.
Speaker 5: It's oh, like, yeah, I said it on.
Speaker 2: The show that I was unclear of if it was
Speaker 2: her husband or a gay her gay friend.
Speaker 3: But he's just a.
Speaker 2: It was he is her husband. And she took no
Speaker 2: offense and as why but by the way, why would
Speaker 2: anyone take offense to being thought that they were gay?
Speaker 2: Like that shouldn't be something that people go, Oh, I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry. I thought you were gay. Being gay is awesome.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm done apologizing.
Speaker 2: If something I think someone's gay and they're not, that
Speaker 2: is that's insulting to gay.
Speaker 3: It could be insulting to him because he's why why
Speaker 3: do I look so femin you do? I look feminine?
Speaker 5: But why is that a bad thing?
Speaker 3: I don't. Macho men don't like that.
Speaker 5: I know, Well that's a weakness of their if I can't.
Speaker 6: Isn't necessarily like gay? No, not at all straight and feminine.
Speaker 3: Which is yes. No. They were the sweetest couple ever.
Speaker 3: They came attacked to me. They're like, we have something
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 2: And they had a friendship bracelet that said just kidding,
Speaker 2: just kidd's so cute.
Speaker 6: It's like, what your pictures so cute to get a
Speaker 6: bracelet made for you?
Speaker 3: Julie, Oh my god. I was no. I was astound.
Speaker 3: I was like, what that is the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 2: But I do have meet and greets left on my shows,
Speaker 2: but those tickets are already sold and any added shows
Speaker 2: do not have meet and greets. So I'm still doing
Speaker 2: meet and greets until the end of December because those
Speaker 2: shows were sold before Tom Brady Roast, but after the roast.
Speaker 2: I said, no more so, and I'll probably get to
Speaker 2: a point in my career where I'll start meeting people again, yeah,
Speaker 2: where it will make more sense.
Speaker 4: But it just seventies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I'm like back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like I will have it won't be
Speaker 2: that many people now it's too many people.
Speaker 3: It's like it's a long line.
Speaker 2: And I really want to focus on the show. I
Speaker 2: want to focus my energy there because when I have
Speaker 2: two shows in a night and I have a meet
Speaker 2: and greet in between, like rain for the second show,
Speaker 2: and then that's robbing the second show of an energy
Speaker 2: that I could have brought to them, but I'll miss.
Speaker 2: But I will say that a lot of people have
Speaker 2: been coming up being like, you're not doing these anymore
Speaker 2: for much longer, right, like they are even aware, but
Speaker 2: they're like, why are we getting to meet you?
Speaker 5: And I go, I don't really know.
Speaker 3: I'm happy you're getting bigger, and.
Speaker 2: I'm way I'm the best meet and greet you will
Speaker 2: possibly get if you ever got to meet and greet me.
Speaker 2: I dare you to have a better experience. I have
Speaker 2: a celebrity than me. I really do, because and I'm
Speaker 2: not because I'm phoning it in, Like I know how
Speaker 2: much it matters when I've met people for them to
Speaker 2: say my name, look me in the eye, have a
Speaker 2: moment with me. Yeah, Like, I really try to give
Speaker 2: that because I know what it feels like, and I
Speaker 2: want you to feel that way, because I'm so graceful,
Speaker 2: grateful for your your fandom and your support, and I
Speaker 2: want you to feel good about having done it. So
Speaker 2: they I put a lot of work into it, and
Speaker 2: I just don't want to I don't want to sit
Speaker 2: in a chair and have people come in and not
Speaker 2: be able to talk to me and just look at
Speaker 2: the camera.
Speaker 5: And then I could do meet and.
Speaker 2: Greets like that for the rest of my life, the
Speaker 2: way the Dixie Chicks did when I met them in
Speaker 2: the year two thousand filed in told not to look
Speaker 2: at them, not to talk to them, walk me up
Speaker 2: and stand behind them as they sit in director's chairs,
Speaker 2: and then shuffle back out of the room without a word,
Speaker 2: not a high like maybe a smile. Maybe there was
Speaker 2: like a high, but I remember being like that was dumb, interesting,
Speaker 2: and that made me like them less. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 2: think about that, like you think all these things are
Speaker 2: going to make people like you more that I would say,
Speaker 2: I just don't like it. Dixie Chicks less after that.
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be additive and it was not.
Speaker 6: Hemmy nominated or Grammy nominated. Artists can say that about
Speaker 6: their dedication to their fans.
Speaker 5: I think that's a good point.
Speaker 2: I am nominated for a Grammy. I can't believe. I
Speaker 2: think it's like a joke or something.
Speaker 4: You know you're gonna get this one too. This one
Speaker 4: is in the.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's in the bag.
Speaker 4: In the bag in the back. Vandyke not in this one. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Joel's not in this one. It's just you versus comedians,
Speaker 4: and that's the way it should be.
Speaker 2: No, I'm nominated for Best Traditional R and B Album.
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't realize that it's you versus Usher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put me in there as a DEI high No.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it's Best Comedy Album. It's just like a
Speaker 2: fun It's just funny because as a comedian you never
Speaker 2: think you're gonna win a Grammy or be nominated for
Speaker 2: a Grammy. And it's not even like in the scope
Speaker 2: of I mean, even an Emmy. I was just like,
Speaker 2: I don't think that it was never the end game
Speaker 2: or even a thing on my radar when I started
Speaker 2: doing comedy.
Speaker 3: Wow, but it's an They say it's an album, and
Speaker 3: I mean it all sounds.
Speaker 2: Because it is.
Speaker 5: It's an audio album.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 5: You just thought I was getting a Grammy for my special.
Speaker 3: Like nosual no no, for your song no no, okay,
Speaker 3: So for this for the sound, for the sounds. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I'm just saying it's I'm just saying an album.
Speaker 3: It just sounds crazy that.
Speaker 5: Albums comedy album.
Speaker 4: Yeah, horn and you started honking that.
Speaker 2: But it is cool that I did have my song
Speaker 2: on I do have my song on the album, so
Speaker 2: I am I will have won for singing. That's one
Speaker 2: part of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, it was a factor. And I have to say, yeah,
Speaker 4: you definitely should not do meet and greets anymore as
Speaker 4: much as that her. I mean, I don't blame you
Speaker 4: at all. It's it's you know, even like JK. Rowling
Speaker 4: used to do like book signings at midnight for like
Speaker 4: the Harry Potter books when she was like first starting
Speaker 4: and like people would line up around the door around
Speaker 4: the store doing that, and then she stopped doing them
Speaker 4: around like book four, right, Yeah, everybody does. I stopped
Speaker 4: doing greats years ago because it was just too awkward
Speaker 4: standing there with avoiding eye contact everybody who was leaving.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: I never ever when I was a middle act, even
Speaker 2: when I was a headliner at a club, at clubs
Speaker 2: when people were just going to the club because they
Speaker 2: won free tickets and they didn't know who it was,
Speaker 2: I would never wait after the show and like collect
Speaker 2: my congratulations, great shows, whatever it was, because I didn't want.
Speaker 2: I never want people to give me something they don't
Speaker 2: want to give me. And when you are faced with
Speaker 2: walking out of a show, you have to say good job,
Speaker 2: and if you don't, they really must hate you, and
Speaker 2: so that feels really bad. So even the good jobs
Speaker 2: don't mean anything because you're kind of forcing them by
Speaker 2: lingering outside the door. But some people just don't care.
Speaker 2: They'll take they love it. I could never. I could never.
Speaker 2: I actually I did a thing recently where I got
Speaker 2: off stage and had a really good showing on stage.
Speaker 2: There was it was no question that I did a
Speaker 2: great job. Okay, I walk off stage and like every
Speaker 2: you just like when you walk off stage. I would
Speaker 2: not have chosen this. I would have loved to go
Speaker 2: through the floor and not have to meet anyone, because again,
Speaker 2: I just even if when I do a great job,
Speaker 2: I don't really want people to have to say it, right.
Speaker 2: But I was walking off stage into an area where
Speaker 2: people kind of had to say it, and I put
Speaker 2: my head down and I'm kind of like yeah, and
Speaker 2: everyone's like, eh, you.
Speaker 5: Know, good job.
Speaker 2: And I have to walk by this very famous person
Speaker 2: who just saw me and who I just I said
Speaker 2: hi to very briefly before the show because I was
Speaker 2: very intimidated by oh my gosh him and and was like,
Speaker 2: I'm such a big fan. And they were kind of like,
Speaker 2: uh huh, like didn't really say it back, but I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't expect them to. I was just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say I'm a big fan. So
Speaker 2: that was before and then that person, you know, two
Speaker 2: hours later, is standing right. I have to walk by them,
Speaker 2: and it's like I'm walking through a gauntlet of good jobs.
Speaker 2: And so I look at the person in the face
Speaker 2: because I know they have to say it, and I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna be like, oh, here we go.
Speaker 5: You say good.
Speaker 2: Job too, because we just met backstage, and that's what
Speaker 2: you do. Stone faced me, oh, did not say anything,
Speaker 2: and I just walked by, and I'm like, oh not
Speaker 2: only like I would have understood if I really bombed,
Speaker 2: I would have been like mad, respect you didn't just
Speaker 2: lie to me.
Speaker 5: But I didn't.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I did it. And so it was just
Speaker 2: like what it was. It was another one of those
Speaker 2: ones I talked about it on the podcast yesterday where
Speaker 2: you just go, I got your number, I know who
Speaker 2: you are. I know I don't really respect you anymore
Speaker 2: because that was so mean for no reason.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was because you did so well. They felt
Speaker 4: now like they're lesser.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it was that. I just think
Speaker 2: it was like, I, I'm my thing is not to
Speaker 2: give anyone anything.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no matter what.
Speaker 5: My thing is not to be not to be nice.
Speaker 2: That's my that's my whole thing is Like I'm not
Speaker 2: a person who says good job to anyone, So I guess.
Speaker 4: Great can Ultimately that does make them elevated above the
Speaker 4: other people around them because they're not willing to give anybody.
Speaker 2: I've seen this person say good like, I've seen this
Speaker 2: person lose their.
Speaker 5: Cool and be a little bit like nice they put
Speaker 5: and so.
Speaker 2: It was just like okay, great, I can't wait. But
Speaker 2: I was also yeah, i'll tell you later who he
Speaker 2: was nice to others? Yeah, oh yeah, I'm a big
Speaker 2: fan of this person of course, or you know others
Speaker 2: that are just legends in the business that might not
Speaker 2: be able to get them anything, but everyone just like
Speaker 2: sucks their dicks. Sorry, I said, dick sucks their dicks.
Speaker 2: Mom my, mother, you know, yeah, I don't think. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I did say one time you could see his it was.
Speaker 2: It was a very formative moment for me. But I
Speaker 2: was here we.
Speaker 5: Go eight or nine.
Speaker 2: It must have been what are you in fourth or
Speaker 2: fifth grade?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Fourth grade? Nine?
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, ten, and I was We were on
Speaker 2: Blaze Avenue, which was so it had to be before
Speaker 2: sixth grade. And it was a winter Olympics, so it
Speaker 2: was nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 5: I was ten.
Speaker 2: I was nine.
Speaker 3: I know where you're going, and.
Speaker 2: I think it was I think it was Atlanta because
Speaker 2: it was like the nan here. No, it was winter,
Speaker 2: so whatever that okay, No, it wasn't not gonna It
Speaker 2: was nineteen ninety four. It's winter Olympics, doesn't matter, so okay,
Speaker 2: or maybe it was whatever years around there there was
Speaker 2: an ice skater guy, and I said, oh, my god,
Speaker 2: you can see his dick because you could. And my
Speaker 2: mom her neck, like her head almost snapped off because
Speaker 2: she's nicky. And I'm sure there was someone over that
Speaker 2: was like a neighbor that you just were worried that
Speaker 2: they were, because I probably would have gotten away with
Speaker 2: saying that if it was our close I never I
Speaker 2: don't think it was the first time I'd ever used
Speaker 2: the word, but I wasn't trying to be indecent. I
Speaker 2: was just trying not to say penis because I knew
Speaker 2: penis was a bad word, but I was trying to
Speaker 2: come up with a different word. And then another time
Speaker 2: and you were like nicky, and I remember being like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's a bad word.
Speaker 5: Cannot ever say dick ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 2: And then another time I was talking about someone in
Speaker 2: our memory, Well, no, I have memories of when I've
Speaker 2: been like when people go nick like you have memories
Speaker 2: of when someone shamed you about something you've done. You
Speaker 2: definitely carry childhood memories of that. Maybe yeah, you and
Speaker 2: everyone's memories. People go you whenever someone This is just
Speaker 2: a note. When someone remembers something that you don't, it's
Speaker 2: not because you have a bad memory.
Speaker 5: Anya does this all the time. I'll say I remember something.
Speaker 5: She goes, you have the best.
Speaker 2: Memory, and I go, no, I remember that because it
Speaker 2: was emotionally disturbing to me in some way. You don't
Speaker 2: remember it because it wasn't like it's not you remember,
Speaker 2: but you remember emotionally. I remember, but I've told you
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of it. But as soon as you
Speaker 3: said it, I.
Speaker 2: Was like, but another time I told our we were
Speaker 2: talking about someone in your friend group and you were
Speaker 2: complaining about him, and I said, he's such a prick,
Speaker 2: and you guys were like, you do not say and
Speaker 2: I go, but you do. It just sense to me.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't like, ooh, yeah, I'm gonna keep saying that.
Speaker 2: Like I never understood kids that like were bad and
Speaker 2: would I would never cuss on purpose whenever I got
Speaker 2: trouble for cussing it.
Speaker 3: That's probably why I was like, Niki, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I was not a bad kid.
Speaker 2: I wasn't like, ooh, I learned a word that makes
Speaker 2: mommy mad, Like.
Speaker 3: No, you never came up with words like that. I was.
Speaker 3: I'm shocked when I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Like Don Johnson was just talking about Dakota Johnson, his daughter,
Speaker 2: who was a famous actress, and they were on Kimmel
Speaker 2: and they were he was asking her, like what was
Speaker 2: she like as a kid, And he was like, you
Speaker 2: couldn't leave your phone out around her because she would
Speaker 2: pick someone in your contacts and just send them a
Speaker 2: text message of filthy things.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I would have been so trouble.
Speaker 2: I would have never done something like that. And I
Speaker 2: wish there was a part of me that was, like, God,
Speaker 2: I wish it was. I was like more of an
Speaker 2: interesting kid like Dakota.
Speaker 3: That's a really bad child, really, but that's cool.
Speaker 2: I think that's a cool story. That's colorful, like gives
Speaker 2: you ad idea of what kind of kids she was.
Speaker 2: I was just like picking my nose and had buck
Speaker 2: teeth and was kind of just like what, I'm just
Speaker 2: staring at things and like.
Speaker 4: And this nose.
Speaker 5: All the time.
Speaker 2: Because you guys, smoked inside, no big deal, just the
Speaker 2: reason my whole childhood. But if we don't know why
Speaker 2: she did, and then Nick comes up smoke, give me
Speaker 2: a break. You guys didn't know the eighties, no one knew.
Speaker 3: Thank got I smoke anymore.
Speaker 5: Thank god.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll be coming, We'll be coming right back up
Speaker 2: to this thing. Yeah, you don't smoke anymore. You haven't
Speaker 2: smoked for how long.
Speaker 3: It's been almost thirteen years.
Speaker 2: That's so good, So proud of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, dammage is done.
Speaker 4: I know your lungs regenerate after ten years. They're like
Speaker 4: new lungs.
Speaker 3: I do get them checked every year.
Speaker 4: I get it and they're not good.
Speaker 3: They're actually they're good, right, they're good. It's like shock,
Speaker 3: so excited every time I get that X RAM.
Speaker 5: Like, so, kids, you don't need to quit smoking.
Speaker 2: You don't need fifties or whatever.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 2: No, it's some I've actually I have a friend who smokes,
Speaker 2: and recently I've been really stressed on the road, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I just want I want to be bad,
Speaker 2: Like I want to just do something bad.
Speaker 3: Could be tempting you.
Speaker 2: And I asked him for a cigarette and I took
Speaker 2: like tupuffs and was like, this is fucking disgusting. And
Speaker 2: then I did it again a couple weeks later and
Speaker 2: felt the same way, and it was like, this is fucking disgusting,
Speaker 2: and it was so great to know that I can
Speaker 2: just like, do it feel a little bit bad and
Speaker 2: go yeah and walk away like I used to always think, oh,
Speaker 2: you'll get sucked back in. I don't recommend that for
Speaker 2: people who miss smoking a lot. I don't miss it.
Speaker 2: I don't think about it a lot. It's been for
Speaker 2: me fifteen years if it's been thirteen for you. So
Speaker 2: so I was ready to just like test the waters.
Speaker 2: And it makes me think that I could probably have
Speaker 2: a glass of wine and be like, I don't need
Speaker 2: more than this.
Speaker 5: But I don't want to test that one.
Speaker 3: Because I think you'd be fine.
Speaker 5: I know I have a lot of self control.
Speaker 2: I think you are because I won't do anything that's
Speaker 2: going to fuck with my career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that made me a great decision when you
Speaker 3: made it.
Speaker 2: I was so proud of My health doesn't matter my career.
Speaker 2: Your career the only thing that I care about, truly.
Speaker 2: If you tell me if you want me to stop these,
Speaker 2: if you will behavior and say you will not, you
Speaker 2: will be less successful in your career if you do this,
Speaker 2: I'll stop doing that. And in a fucking heartbeat, and
Speaker 2: if you but there are also things that if I
Speaker 2: would be more successful if I did it, and I
Speaker 2: don't do. But I will say if something I'm doing
Speaker 2: is going to make me less, I will stop it.
Speaker 2: But nothing else will get me to stop it. Not
Speaker 2: my health, my or vanity will too. Health.
Speaker 3: As you get older, you realize, oh my god, it's
Speaker 3: I used to laugh at that when people go well,
Speaker 3: at least you got your health. It's like, what, who
Speaker 3: gives a shit about health? You know, it's all about
Speaker 3: anything else?
Speaker 2: And you start feeling bad, and I realize how bad
Speaker 2: it feels to feel bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, have bad health.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just gotta.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Brian's had struggles too with pain and stuff. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean matters.
Speaker 3: But as a teenager, if you ever thought, at this
Speaker 3: age you are that i'd be you know, you'd struggle
Speaker 3: with pain like Brian. Would you have thought there's no way,
Speaker 3: who cares? You know, you just wouldn't think that.
Speaker 4: When I was a teenager, I had IBS and I
Speaker 4: would go to the hospital like every four months. Oh
Speaker 4: so I was like that I was pain.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you poor thing that's gone? Now what
Speaker 3: is it? I mean, it just goes away or you've
Speaker 3: got it under control?
Speaker 4: No I did. I cured it with the d NRS program.
Speaker 4: Now I have no IBS at all.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the DNRS program.
Speaker 4: The d NRS program.
Speaker 3: Would you like to.
Speaker 4: Just a test if diet it's psychosomatic? I mean, IBS
Speaker 4: is a psychosomatic disorder. It is not is it is
Speaker 4: due to stress, anxiety and emotions. And I cured it.
Speaker 4: I thought. I went to all these doctors. I went
Speaker 4: to you know, all these specialists who did all these
Speaker 4: tests on me, all these genetic tests, and you know,
Speaker 4: I sent my shit. I froze it and sent it
Speaker 4: to Texas and they did tests on that. And everyone
Speaker 4: tried to give me different pills and make me do
Speaker 4: different things, and nothing worked. The only thing that worked
Speaker 4: was realizing that it was my brain that was creating
Speaker 4: the pain. And through the d n R S for
Speaker 4: an other things, I was able to get rid of
Speaker 4: it completely. I can meet whatever I want with no pain.
Speaker 4: So if you have IBS out there, bothers, you can
Speaker 4: cure it.
Speaker 2: To be being told that their brain is causing the pain.
Speaker 2: But the truth is the no matter if you break
Speaker 2: a bone, your brain is what's sending the pain signal. Right,
Speaker 2: So it's like it doesn't matter if it's your emotions
Speaker 2: or stress causing you pain. Your pain's still valid. We
Speaker 2: still feel sorry for you, you still feel it should
Speaker 2: get all the sympathy in the world. But because we
Speaker 2: don't give people with mental illness sympathy like we do
Speaker 2: people with a cancer or a disease a physical disease.
Speaker 2: And by the way, a brain is a physical thing,
Speaker 2: so there is a physical element to diseases. It's just
Speaker 2: on a like a you know, like you're if you're
Speaker 2: if you have bipolar, there's something in your brain that's
Speaker 2: doing something different than other people's brain, or if you're
Speaker 2: like have OCD, like your brain literally there probably is
Speaker 2: a physical thing going on in your brain. Don't you
Speaker 2: think it's not just all well, your.
Speaker 4: Brain controls everything in your body, so your brain is physical.
Speaker 2: Symptoms, neurons are physical. It's not like you have to.
Speaker 4: Rewire the neuropathic pathways.
Speaker 2: So, but we need to like change the way we
Speaker 2: talk about psychosomatic things as like it's your feelings, because
Speaker 2: that like makes people, that turns people off of like
Speaker 2: ever accepting it. We have to just say it's your brain.
Speaker 2: Your brain is doing something is causing the pain, Like
Speaker 2: your brain is doing a physical thing that's causing the pain.
Speaker 2: So if you really want to focus on a physical
Speaker 2: thing that's going wrong, it's in your brain.
Speaker 3: And then you got to talk your brain out of
Speaker 3: that physical And the treatment is, yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Gotta have to train it. You have to you have
Speaker 4: to have new you have to develop new pathways that
Speaker 4: are positive as opposed to negative due to your triggers
Speaker 4: and things like that. They call it like a learned
Speaker 4: brain injury. They call it retraining your brain.
Speaker 2: Was it like overnight with you doing this dion RS
Speaker 2: stuff or was it.
Speaker 4: A gradual For the IBS, it was I knew that
Speaker 4: it was my brain. I knew that it wasn't what
Speaker 4: I was eating. And then I just I saw some
Speaker 4: like slideshow or something online that someone put on the
Speaker 4: slide show. It's not your diet. It's not your diet.
Speaker 4: No matter what you're thinking, the one thing that's true
Speaker 4: is that it's not your diets. Then I just kept
Speaker 4: thinking that. And then whenever once I realized that whenever
Speaker 4: I saw food that I was like scared was going
Speaker 4: to cause some huge reaction, I would eat double and
Speaker 4: it would be really horrible. For about two and a
Speaker 4: half months, I would be like, oh, I can't have
Speaker 4: fu because that'll give me horrible stomach cramps. And then
Speaker 4: I'd like, well, now that I've thought that, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: eat double pha, And then I would eat double Pha
Speaker 4: and I would be in horrible pain, but I would
Speaker 4: just keep going. And then after two more months of
Speaker 4: doing that, the pain just went away.
Speaker 3: Wait, you ate double fuck just test it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like going again. It's like your your
Speaker 4: brain develops a negative association with the food that cause
Speaker 4: you symptoms and it and so when you eat them,
Speaker 4: you're like scared. You're like scared to eat them, and
Speaker 4: that causes your brain to be like this is dangerous.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't eat this, and then it gives you horrible symptoms.
Speaker 4: And it's the more you practice, But.
Speaker 2: Why would you do well, that's it's the backbook where
Speaker 2: they say if you if you have back pain, instead
Speaker 2: of every time you bend down and.
Speaker 5: You have that like and you braceport, you go, just
Speaker 5: do do the keep doing those motions.
Speaker 2: Don't avoid moving in ways that make your body pain
Speaker 2: up here, because when you avoid it, you're causing the
Speaker 2: stress of oh, this is gonna hurt, and that feeling
Speaker 2: of it's gonna hurt causes the hurt because it's the
Speaker 2: hurt is caused from stress. So you're you're the stress
Speaker 2: over the pain is causing the pain.
Speaker 5: Practicing do those moves a lot.
Speaker 4: When you do, when you bend over and you go, oh,
Speaker 4: this causes back pain, you're just practicing that pathway in
Speaker 4: your brain that leads to pain.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like learning a scale on an instrument.
Speaker 2: Right, So you're you're practicing your brain learning. This isn't
Speaker 2: about the movement, This isn't about the movement. This is
Speaker 2: this is in my head. So when you do the
Speaker 2: painful thing, you tell yourself this is it's not the
Speaker 2: movement that's causing this.
Speaker 5: It's not the movement.
Speaker 4: That's right. And you can go even further and instead
Speaker 4: of saying it's not the movement that's causing this, you
Speaker 4: can make it a positive association. Righty, it's even stronger.
Speaker 4: And you just practice that over and over again until
Speaker 4: you start acting normal.
Speaker 2: And what's the positive association?
Speaker 5: Give us one.
Speaker 4: So, like the DNRS program, you do these things called
Speaker 4: rounds where you will trigger yourself exposure therapy to something
Speaker 4: like if it's your back you're bending over, it's a
Speaker 4: food you'll have a little bit of the food and
Speaker 4: then you put yourself in a Basically it's kind of
Speaker 4: like a meditation, but you do these positive associations where
Speaker 4: you think about positive memories and you let yourself feel
Speaker 4: calm and positive, and you put yourself in that space
Speaker 4: after exposing yourself to the thing that causes you problems,
Speaker 4: and over the course of many, many rounds and a
Speaker 4: lot of time and a lot of practice, eventually it's
Speaker 4: a stronger pathway to go to the positive thing than
Speaker 4: to the negative thing, and your brain will automatically do
Speaker 4: that without even trying, not having.
Speaker 5: To think about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's like how I've been using sleigh recently without
Speaker 2: having to try. So Emily has taught me all of
Speaker 2: these gen z terms like sleigh dead, Oh that slaps
Speaker 2: and you're killing it? Yeah, oh my god, that's oh
Speaker 2: sleigh sleigh please, like not you wearing animal print today,
Speaker 2: like things, phrases like that. I So Chris and I
Speaker 2: like didn't really talk that much for about a month
Speaker 2: and a half because he was so busy on his
Speaker 2: work thing. We would like text like I love you,
Speaker 2: I missed you, like quick things, and over that month
Speaker 2: and a half. I've just hung out with Emily so
Speaker 2: much that my I've started talking differently. Like at first
Speaker 2: I would intentionally write to her like, oh, that's slagh,
Speaker 2: like I would like almost jokingly, like, oh, Mickey's using
Speaker 2: this and we all know like my struggle with these words.
Speaker 2: But I have recently been saying sleigh sincerely and slaps
Speaker 2: without having to think about it. But it's just a
Speaker 2: part of my slaps is like that fucking cool that kills,
Speaker 2: Oh that slapped, that song slaps, And it doesn't sound
Speaker 2: weird to me when I say it, like in my head,
Speaker 2: I'm sure to others.
Speaker 5: But the other other day, I was talking about.
Speaker 2: A uh god, I guess, oh, the the cold open
Speaker 2: for SNL after the election, and I was telling Chris, oh,
Speaker 2: my god, the Cold Open fucking slade, and I could
Speaker 2: tell like right after I went right back to like
Speaker 2: millennials speak with him like hardcore, because I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't want him to think like I've changed since we've
Speaker 2: been on this kind of like because I would have
Speaker 2: been if he would have said slavest man, like who
Speaker 2: are you fucking who taught you slaves? And why are
Speaker 2: you using it? Like it's a normal thing and it's
Speaker 2: not ironic. But yeah, I think that you. I think
Speaker 2: that's like anything in life, like no matter how much
Speaker 2: I think, it won't work, Like this sounds like it
Speaker 2: won't work, you know, like, oh, you have to make
Speaker 2: new If I keep telling myself I love myself, then
Speaker 2: I won't even have to tell myself that I love myself.
Speaker 2: I just will Like that just sounds like hogwash and
Speaker 2: it's and it's or I'll bend over in this way
Speaker 2: that has hurt me for years and years. Yes, Emily
Speaker 2: has not approved of that. Mad a phrase does not
Speaker 2: slap that sucks.
Speaker 3: Wait.
Speaker 2: By the way, Emily said that the word cool is
Speaker 2: not used by gen z. Literally cool is like unused.
Speaker 3: What about awesome?
Speaker 2: And she said that, wait, no awesome. She was like, no,
Speaker 2: I don't make sure to approve of awesome either.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She also is like, stops saying thanks. She was like,
Speaker 2: she didn't say stop, but she was like, you're adorable
Speaker 2: when you write thanks with two exclamation marks. Like she
Speaker 2: was like, you always say that. It just sounds like too.
Speaker 2: She's like, it just is like it's just giving. I
Speaker 2: forget what she said. It was giving. It was just
Speaker 2: trying to order or she goes, I go, well, then
Speaker 2: what do you do? I want to be sincere and
Speaker 2: I want to let people know I'm very grateful for
Speaker 2: what they just did for me via text. And she
Speaker 2: said t y in all caps, a space and then
Speaker 2: a double exclamation mark. So that's no effort to me,
Speaker 2: less caps.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it's space and then double exclamation the
Speaker 4: space I.
Speaker 2: Don't understand or a gay A gay man can and
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that, not that there's anything wrong
Speaker 2: with that. We're getting back to Seinfeld. Seinfeld always did
Speaker 2: everything first. But yeah, I was thinking about Yeah, just
Speaker 2: the you can't even imagine that you will get used
Speaker 2: to something, or when you first start working out and
Speaker 2: it hurts so much and you're like, I'll never be
Speaker 2: strong enough to do this, where it's there's just I
Speaker 2: don't what is it about our human brains that just
Speaker 2: have no faith in ourselves for like learning new habits.
Speaker 2: It's happened to me, But your whole life is just
Speaker 2: a bunch of habits, habits that have turned into your personality.
Speaker 2: But for some reason, when you start a new one,
Speaker 2: you just go it won't stick, it's never going to
Speaker 2: and it eventually does Sean O'Connor. Because he has had
Speaker 2: to take flights so often to be on the road
Speaker 2: with me, he is terrified of flying.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: He has to have a special shirt that he brings
Speaker 2: with him, not that he wears, that he brings with him.
Speaker 2: That's like a good luck shirt. That's like a thing.
Speaker 2: And he and I'm always worried about him when he's
Speaker 2: flying out because I'm like, God, you're just like on
Speaker 2: the plane. I don't want to white knuckling, like a
Speaker 2: five hour flight and sometimes there's turbulence, and I just
Speaker 2: want him to understand.
Speaker 5: Like it's it's okay.
Speaker 2: But he says it's gotten so much better because he
Speaker 2: just has to do it a bunch and there's no choice,
Speaker 2: you're forced. Then he says his anxiety is way less,
Speaker 2: and I'm so happy to hear that, because but it
Speaker 2: can't not be.
Speaker 3: What does he do with that shirt? Does he cover
Speaker 3: his head with it?
Speaker 2: I think it's just like has to be all like
Speaker 2: in his bag or something. It just has to be
Speaker 2: with him. Do you guys have any superstitions like that?
Speaker 4: I mean, I knock on wood all the time whenever
Speaker 4: I say something that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you find wood?
Speaker 4: I find wood. It must be wood. I don't accept
Speaker 4: if someone knocks on their head and goes, oh, this
Speaker 4: is wood and it's like, that's not wood, that's bone
Speaker 4: and hair.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I was on a red carpet
Speaker 2: once and said something that made me feel like I
Speaker 2: jinxed myself. So I said, oh my god, I have
Speaker 2: to knock on wood. And there was no wood anywhere
Speaker 2: near red carpet. So I had to run off the
Speaker 2: red carpet to like go find a floorboard that was
Speaker 2: like in a bathroom off the.
Speaker 3: That's the hall that.
Speaker 2: We were in. But it was because even the girl
Speaker 2: was like, you got to knock on wood, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh fuck, you're right, Like I can't screw
Speaker 2: myself over like that.
Speaker 4: And sometimes see things that are that are fake wood
Speaker 4: and you think they're real wood and you knock on
Speaker 4: that you wait a second, this is just plastic. This
Speaker 4: isn't real wood.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I always worry about the wood has a varnish. Does
Speaker 2: that keep you from the wood because you're not knocking
Speaker 2: on varyeah, but the wood is vibrating. Yeah, that's vibrating.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's okay, that's okay. Sometimes I'm in the woods
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, I got a knock on wood,
Speaker 4: and I look around like there's no wood around, and
Speaker 4: then I realize that trees are wood.
Speaker 2: You forget, Yeah, so quickly we forget. No, do you
Speaker 2: have any superstisions?
Speaker 3: No? I don't.
Speaker 6: I mean they don't pop up into my head. I
Speaker 6: just feel like, whatever happens happens. There's it's out of
Speaker 6: my control.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: Bullshit.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's true. The illusion that you have any
Speaker 2: control over the way that your life is.
Speaker 4: Going to No, no, no, if you knock on wood,
Speaker 4: you will have control.
Speaker 3: Everything will be okay.
Speaker 2: I do want to believe in manifestation, but I'm I
Speaker 2: saw a thing about one of my favorite you know
Speaker 2: uh guys that made manifestation almost about like science that
Speaker 2: I really believed.
Speaker 5: I even bought Dad his book.
Speaker 2: And then I saw a podcast and listen to a
Speaker 2: podcasts that he's like a quack, Joe Despenser, and that he's.
Speaker 4: Just he's that quack.
Speaker 2: I was really into what he was putting out for
Speaker 2: a while, and that's and you know, well.
Speaker 3: Why are you saying that out loud. You could be introuble.
Speaker 2: Because but there's art. I'm saying that I heard something
Speaker 2: that said he was a quack. I think he's a quack.
Speaker 3: That I'm making that I'm clarifying that my mom's terrified
Speaker 3: canceled because of guy.
Speaker 5: Guy might manifest.
Speaker 2: If he can really do what he says he can do,
Speaker 2: my life could be over very quickly.
Speaker 3: Well, you were into manifestation. I know. I know.
Speaker 2: I'm still into the the pod. Like when I'm on
Speaker 2: a plane and I picture it crashing, I instantly stop
Speaker 2: doing that, and then I picture myself landing and being
Speaker 2: at the baggage claim board, and it costs me so
Speaker 2: much as if you imagine if you manifest being at
Speaker 2: the baggage claim in you know, Albany board, that is
Speaker 2: where you will be and that will one hundred percent happen,
Speaker 2: and you'll go, wow, I manifested it because there's no
Speaker 2: other way to be at a baggage claim except board. Which,
Speaker 2: by the way, when I was doing some modeling last
Speaker 2: week at a photo shoot, I asked the photographer for
Speaker 2: advice about how to model.
Speaker 3: Is that what happened? What I have never seen more
Speaker 3: beautiful pictures?
Speaker 2: Well, I think the photographer was really really really oh
Speaker 2: my god, because I didn't bring anything to the table
Speaker 2: that was different.
Speaker 3: She told me, credible.
Speaker 2: You would never think this from a fashion photographer to
Speaker 2: give advice on how to look like a great model,
Speaker 2: of great high fashion model. My god, this is brilliant
Speaker 2: because it is exactly the note. But you would never
Speaker 2: you would never give this note. You would never think
Speaker 2: she goes bored at a bus stop.
Speaker 3: Oh whoa.
Speaker 2: And now look at fashion models and they always look
Speaker 2: bored at a bus stop. Wow, pissed, angry that the
Speaker 2: bus is late, and bored at a bus stop, and
Speaker 2: it it I just.
Speaker 5: Would look bored.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: It was like I was trying too much with my
Speaker 2: face before. I feel like I'm You're like even Cara Dellavine.
Speaker 2: I remember one time she said, Uh, it's not about
Speaker 2: making faces, about.
Speaker 5: Like not doing things with your face.
Speaker 2: It's about like an attitude that you exude by thinking
Speaker 2: more than like.
Speaker 3: More doing your face. Oh yeah, wow, I've never seen
Speaker 3: such professional picture.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did this photo shoot for this amazing fashion
Speaker 2: magazine that I don't think I can talk about yet.
Speaker 2: But it was like the highest It was like the
Speaker 2: most fashioning thing I've ever done in my life. And
Speaker 2: what I felt, imposter syndrome was on fleek that day.
Speaker 2: And I know on fleek is not something anyone says anymore,
Speaker 2: but it was. I could not believe that I was
Speaker 2: in this setting. And then after the day was done,
Speaker 2: Emily was like, girl, can I send pictures to your mom?
Speaker 2: Because I think she would love these? And I go,
Speaker 2: She goes, I know you don't want to see them,
Speaker 2: but I feel like your mom needs to and I
Speaker 2: was like, of course you can. And so she sent
Speaker 2: you a bunch of pictures for the day and she
Speaker 2: said that you guys are best friends.
Speaker 5: Now, oh god, lover, I guess you don't feel the
Speaker 5: same way.
Speaker 2: She's listening for her.
Speaker 3: I love what she's uh, she's done for you, and
Speaker 3: I love that she sent me those pictures.
Speaker 2: I was like, friends, but friends, I don't know. She
Speaker 2: was like, I love Julie. Like me chat now it's happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know we haven't chatted enough. Yeahs, I'm concerned
Speaker 3: you should chat more.
Speaker 2: She loves you, she loves.
Speaker 3: I will I didn't know. That's awesome. Yeah, no, they're
Speaker 3: they're they're great pictures. I cannot wait till this comes out.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be I thought, well, now you're going into modeling.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're gonna be a oh
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding.
Speaker 5: I will say I saw one.
Speaker 2: It was really good. Yeah, but really modeling is a
Speaker 2: very very hard, and I would not want to do
Speaker 2: it because you have zero control.
Speaker 5: I just didn't feel control.
Speaker 2: It's like you you can't talk. It's like my way
Speaker 2: of like being entertaining and feeling like I have any
Speaker 2: kind of power control is like talking and like having
Speaker 2: words to express myself, like just looks and your body
Speaker 2: and like movement like that's why it's so funny that
Speaker 2: like that would be a medium I would ever do
Speaker 2: well in. And also like these lip sync videos I've
Speaker 2: been doing, like and then Brian saying last week, like
Speaker 2: so you you came up with the choreography, Like that's
Speaker 2: so funny to me because I've never been good at
Speaker 2: my body does not it only betrays me. But it
Speaker 2: is something that I've thrown myself into every weekend because
Speaker 2: it's really fun. I'm just trying to do fun stuff
Speaker 2: that's cool. But the photoshoot was really fun. You just
Speaker 2: blast the music you want to listen to, and then
Speaker 2: you have a bunch of people putting things on you,
Speaker 2: and you're you do realize that as a model, though,
Speaker 2: you are like a commodity and you're not. You're just there, gotcha,
Speaker 2: And they set me a little probably better than a
Speaker 2: model generally gets treated because I'm not there for the product.
Speaker 2: I'm more there to for like myself the product, and
Speaker 2: they they have to be I'm I'm like, I'm not.
Speaker 2: But I think modeling is probably a very dehumanizing experience
Speaker 2: because you're being like pinned and poked and people are
Speaker 2: commenting on your body, well, no, show her shoulder. Actually no,
Speaker 2: that's not good like, and they forget that you are
Speaker 2: attached to the things.
Speaker 4: That they're You're not a person. You are a vehicle
Speaker 4: for a product. You're just you're a hot show.
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 3: Listen, those girls that are high Gigi or whatever, Now, yeah,
Speaker 3: those girls are all you know, live in the life.
Speaker 4: Well, once you transcend the generic.
Speaker 2: Model on the models for like J Crew or Amazon
Speaker 2: like or any you know, revolve these girls that just
Speaker 2: have to put on thousand outfits in one day, I
Speaker 2: just standing there like it's yeah no, and I don't.
Speaker 4: They're all going to be replaced. They're going to be
Speaker 4: replaced by AI anyway, everything online.
Speaker 2: Why haven't they been already? It's insane. It would be
Speaker 2: the easiest thing to replace. But I don't think they should.
Speaker 2: But like, I just think that's definitely coming.
Speaker 4: Billionaires haven't best interesting about it.
Speaker 2: But then who would take billionaires? Fuck if there weren't models, if.
Speaker 4: They weren't shipping models to Yeah, no, that's a good point.
Speaker 4: I think that that's the one thing that'll save us,
Speaker 4: is if they can just fuck them then.
Speaker 2: Because it's not interesting to say I'm fucking a beautiful woman.
Speaker 2: It's better to say I'm.
Speaker 5: Fucking a model.
Speaker 2: Like that gives a billion mind, right, Like, so they
Speaker 2: have to keep them working and modeling. The robots will not.
Speaker 2: I will not replace models because then want to be
Speaker 2: able to say they control.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: That is we figured it out. Okay, we cracked the code. Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll be back after this.
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety four Winter Olympics. I've uncovered where it was.
Speaker 4: It's in lily Hammer, which is which is in Norway,
Speaker 4: lily Hammer, And do you remember that there was like
Speaker 4: one of the very first Netflix actual scripted shows. After
Speaker 4: what was the first one, Orange Is the New Black.
Speaker 4: After that was Lily Hammer, this show that starred this
Speaker 4: like one of the side characters from the Sopranos who
Speaker 4: had to go into witness protection. It was he was
Speaker 4: playing basically the character from the Sopranos, but he wasn't
Speaker 4: actually the character from the Sopranos. That's just his range.
Speaker 4: I guess he had to. He was put a mobster
Speaker 4: in New York who had to go into witness protection
Speaker 4: and chose to go to Lily Hammer, Norway. And he
Speaker 4: was like a fish out of water, Italian New York
Speaker 4: guy in Norway going Hey, what's with all these reindeer
Speaker 4: and snow? And everyone's like this guy's too aggressive and
Speaker 4: he's like, actually a nice guy.
Speaker 2: Probably still on Netflix, right, Yeah?
Speaker 4: I actually think yeah, no, it's still on, but I
Speaker 4: think maybe they they're gonna remove it soon because it's
Speaker 4: so like old Netflix, like Netflix BC.
Speaker 2: You know, God, it's so crazy how much effort and
Speaker 2: money goes into these shows that we just forget about instantly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially with the binge model. The binge model needs
Speaker 4: to end. It has ruined.
Speaker 2: If models aren't binging, how do they purging. How will
Speaker 2: they say, then, okay, the binge model.
Speaker 5: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: Here's what happened in when you have the binge model,
Speaker 4: you wind up.
Speaker 2: It's the model where they drop the whole season of
Speaker 2: TV in one day instead of so they allow you
Speaker 2: to binge on it.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, everybody winds up watching the show and the
Speaker 4: weekend it comes out and no one talks about it
Speaker 4: ever again. And there used to be a time where
Speaker 4: there'd be weeks between the episodes where people would discuss
Speaker 4: the show and it would become a thing in culture.
Speaker 4: And because of the binge model, not only are we
Speaker 4: now missing that those discussions, but it's also hindering our culture,
Speaker 4: like there's no more like, Hey, what's going to happen
Speaker 4: on Game of Thrones, what's going to happen on The Wire?
Speaker 4: What's going to happen on Sex and the City.
Speaker 2: It's like it's I haven't watched that yet, so don't
Speaker 2: talk about it. I haven't gotten there yet. But then
Speaker 2: you're talking about it, No, but you end the conversation
Speaker 2: because you go, no more spoilers. I haven't finished it yet,
Speaker 2: so we're not talking about this anymore.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a suspense thing. I like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was. But what he's saying is that
Speaker 2: suspense thing would we would all be on board, we'd
Speaker 2: all watch TV at the same time, we'd all find
Speaker 2: out what happened.
Speaker 3: Right, Why don't they do that? Because why don't they
Speaker 3: do it? It's the benefit of the binge.
Speaker 4: Well. Netflix tried to disrupt the industry by doing the
Speaker 4: binge system because they don't have commercials, they just want subscriptions,
Speaker 4: and everyone followed suit because Netflix was so successful with it.
Speaker 4: The second thing that happened, it wasn't really just like
Speaker 4: here's why. It was just like we're going to try this,
Speaker 4: and it was like working I guess, and I guess save.
Speaker 5: Enough money to make enough content to That's.
Speaker 4: The other problem. The other problem is when you have
Speaker 4: a bing show and it gets released, the show gets
Speaker 4: watched in a weekend or a week and then it's
Speaker 4: over and then the next season of the show is
Speaker 4: not going to come out for like two years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it used to.
Speaker 4: Be a show was parsed out over ten to fifteen
Speaker 4: weeks over the course of the year. So while episode
Speaker 4: four was airing for the first.
Speaker 2: Time, they got a pick up and then they would
Speaker 2: start writing the next season as that season was still airing,
Speaker 2: so then by the time that season was over, they
Speaker 2: were in pre production for the next season, and then
Speaker 2: you would probably get the next season within a year.
Speaker 2: And now that has been like it's now you get
Speaker 2: the next season, you know, like nobody wants this. There
Speaker 2: was a bit like that obviously was a hit right away,
Speaker 2: and they picked up a second season, and I think
Speaker 2: they're writing it right now, but it's gonna be then
Speaker 2: they have to shoot it, then they have to edit it,
Speaker 2: and it's going to be a while before that dumps again.
Speaker 2: Even though people are clamoring for a second season like.
Speaker 4: That, could you lose all the momentum?
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have even the season one wouldn't have even
Speaker 2: been finished yet. If they were just parsing it out
Speaker 2: week by week.
Speaker 4: Right, people would be talking about it every week. It
Speaker 4: would still be in the zeitgeys. They would still be
Speaker 4: Noumber one on Netflix. And then the next season people
Speaker 4: are gonna forget about Nobody wants this, And then two
Speaker 4: and a half years from now, when Nobody Wants This
Speaker 4: two comes out, people be like, oh, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2: That show Flight Attendant, Remember flight Attendant. It was all
Speaker 2: anyone could talk about. Yeah, and then no one watched
Speaker 2: the second season. Yeah No, I mean because the momentum
Speaker 2: was gone.
Speaker 4: Handmaid's Tale, Handmaid's Tale season and the final seasons of
Speaker 4: Handmaid's Tale, people are like that show is still on
Speaker 4: the air, whereas the first three seasons everybody was but
Speaker 4: two years and that they suffered from COVID. But like,
Speaker 4: a two year gap is too long to expect us
Speaker 4: to remember a show that we liked.
Speaker 2: And I just feel bad for people who make these
Speaker 2: things in them because when I have released, when I've
Speaker 2: been on a TV show that is going over thirteen weeks,
Speaker 2: you get that you feel like you're you're working for
Speaker 2: that thirteen weeks you made the show that felt like
Speaker 2: you work. And then then you're like, I'm still working.
Speaker 2: I'm still promoting this show as soon as it airs,
Speaker 2: and it's done airing, you're like, I got to move
Speaker 2: on to the next thing.
Speaker 5: So there's that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the second at premieres, you already have that sense
Speaker 2: of loss that you don't even get to like enjoy
Speaker 2: this like kind of rollout and I mean it's kind
Speaker 2: of like a movie. I mean, it just comes out
Speaker 2: and then it's it's gone. I guess it's like the
Speaker 2: same kind of vibe as a movie.
Speaker 4: But a movie is a product in and of itself.
Speaker 4: It sucks for the for the staffs, it sucks for
Speaker 4: the The quality of the show suffers too, because if
Speaker 4: you have a hit show with a full staff and
Speaker 4: then it gets released in a binge model and then
Speaker 4: it gets picked up, all of the writers for that
Speaker 4: show need to have need to get other jobs in
Speaker 4: order to make money. You're much less likely to retain
Speaker 4: your staff if you're doing a binge model then if
Speaker 4: you were releasing it week by week and getting a
Speaker 4: pick up and having a rolling cycle, because every time
Speaker 4: you do a job, you need to go get another
Speaker 4: job immediately because it's over quickly and you don't know
Speaker 4: if it's going to get picked up and you have
Speaker 4: to move on.
Speaker 2: And then when it does get picked up, you aren't
Speaker 2: available because you add another job, so they have to
Speaker 2: like find someone else to be the new You ever wonder.
Speaker 4: Why, like, well, season one was so amazing and then
Speaker 4: season two sucked, It's because they didn't get the same writers.
Speaker 5: Right, because those people had to go find other jobs.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: AIKE final thought, what do you got going for the
Speaker 2: rest of the day.
Speaker 3: I might go down to our river.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, my parents river cabin flooded.
Speaker 3: Just halfway and it's just like the bottom level, which
Speaker 3: it can it can flood because it's.
Speaker 5: A concrete floor. It's like a basement rise.
Speaker 3: But you gotta scoop out that inch of mud and
Speaker 3: it's just a mess. But we're almost done. Hey, we
Speaker 3: got it done. Yeah, we put eight hours in.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm taking lave. How is your body feeling?
Speaker 3: It's fine? Really? Yeah, I feel great? Oh my god,
Speaker 3: how I said, I was so mad at your father
Speaker 3: for posting that to you. I said, Nicky's gonna be
Speaker 3: so upset.
Speaker 5: That I'm I'm I'm just like, I give up.
Speaker 4: It's yea.
Speaker 2: The selection has made me so like anything that I
Speaker 2: used to be like upset about, I'm just like, it's
Speaker 2: none of my business anymore. If you if dad wants
Speaker 2: to tell you to go when you have an injured
Speaker 2: wife who's constantly complaining about her body aching, if you
Speaker 2: want to tell her to go on a one hundred
Speaker 2: mile canoe trip with you and your friends, and she says, yes,
Speaker 2: I can, You know what that's up to do anything.
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess that's just what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: If you have a sixty five year old woman who
Speaker 2: has to scrape mud for eight hours. Instead of hiring
Speaker 2: someone for a hundred bucks to do it for you
Speaker 2: or whatever, it would be Craigslist.
Speaker 3: Honestly, honestly, it's not. It wasn't really that big of
Speaker 3: a deal.
Speaker 2: Two guys in a shovel. I'ever company.
Speaker 3: It was great exercise, is it? It was? Well?
Speaker 2: I knew I had a feeling that when Dad sent
Speaker 2: those you were gonna be like, don't send her those,
Speaker 2: and so I purposely didn't write back anything. Oh, I know,
Speaker 2: why are you doing this? I will pay to have
Speaker 2: someone do this for you. I why would you live
Speaker 2: an extra ten years longer because you don't do that
Speaker 2: to your body? Then do it and then you then
Speaker 2: you save one hundred and fifty bucks or whatever. I think,
Speaker 2: save money now, don't worry about the damage.
Speaker 3: Really, I did listen to me, vulnerable body, listen. I
Speaker 3: actually really was taking care to not overdo anything. Okay,
Speaker 3: I promise you.
Speaker 5: Well, you're feeling good, so it must have worked.
Speaker 3: And that was three days.
Speaker 5: Did you get your hand scanned back.
Speaker 3: No, I go two days I get my does it
Speaker 3: take for them to result of an I'm not allowed
Speaker 3: to know that what's going on yet until I get this.
Speaker 3: It's a nerve study that I'm having done on Thursday.
Speaker 3: They do a nerve study on my hand to see
Speaker 3: if you know, if there's entrapment or whatever, which I'm
Speaker 3: sure there is, and we'll find out after that.
Speaker 5: What would have caused that, like inflammation.
Speaker 3: No, it's just like an old injury that you know,
Speaker 3: re bumped or something. It's not broken. Uh, you wish
Speaker 3: I wish I would had an answer like that.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't that have been great?
Speaker 3: It would have just come out.
Speaker 5: It was like whenever they do a scan and then
Speaker 5: they go, no.
Speaker 3: It's it's fine, great, Oh well we don't see a break,
Speaker 3: and it's like, what, there's no break there.
Speaker 2: I think Brian would say, do dnrs.
Speaker 3: I he could say that, but it trust me, there's
Speaker 3: something going on. Yeah, it's an injury. It's an injury
Speaker 3: that just needs to be give me a shot.
Speaker 5: Wait, did you get the handbrace that I sent to
Speaker 5: your home?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It didn't work. It's just you can't sleep at
Speaker 3: that thing. It's so oh, I'm sorry, no, but we tried.
Speaker 3: You tried. Yeah, it's great, But anyway, I'll have more answers.
Speaker 3: My hand is numb when I wake up in the morning.
Speaker 3: Oh my, oh my god. So it's something's going on.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I'm getting it. I'm working on this. But
Speaker 3: they always said to the girl, what if I they
Speaker 3: have no feeling in my hand all day? Why why
Speaker 3: do I am on hold for this nerve study? Well,
Speaker 3: because because you can't get in doctors.
Speaker 2: You can't get I can't get into any doctor in
Speaker 2: town for general. I can't get a doctor. And I
Speaker 2: drop people go drop your name, Oh I do, No
Speaker 2: one has any room, there's nowhere to go. And then
Speaker 2: once you go, it's it's I don't know, it's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fifteen thousand dollars. Fifteen thousand dollars for the year,
Speaker 4: and you can see a doctor whenever you want in
Speaker 4: a moment's notice. That's what you have enough money to
Speaker 4: get concierge.
Speaker 2: Yeap, will you send me that because I don't even
Speaker 2: know what that is.
Speaker 4: I don't have the info. I can't I know some
Speaker 4: people who do use it, though she does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well why don't we get you that too,
Speaker 2: That would be amazing.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: I would rather give that to you than me.
Speaker 2: I'm a kid, that a daughter I have my God,
Speaker 2: I mean, who wouldn't if you have that money to spend,
Speaker 2: why would I don't know.
Speaker 3: If it's.
Speaker 4: Thousand, yeah you think, I mean it costs you to go,
Speaker 4: but it's fifteen thousand dollars for your Like you know,
Speaker 4: your membership to their shock depends on the doctor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can.
Speaker 4: They don't take insurance or anything. Yeah, No, it's all
Speaker 4: it's the you know, it's just someone. Yeah, that's it's
Speaker 4: it's a great buy. You has any problem at all? Like,
Speaker 4: the answer to your problem is money. You just need
Speaker 4: more money. And if you can't see a doctor, if
Speaker 4: you just had enough money, you could see it. There's
Speaker 4: plenty of doctors who are just there to take rich
Speaker 4: people's money and they totally ignore all the poor people
Speaker 4: and regular people because they don't and they don't take insurance.
Speaker 4: They don't have to. And that's the answer.
Speaker 2: Oh and also, if you are in trouble with the law,
Speaker 2: if you just have enough money to hire the right lawyer,
Speaker 2: a judge will hear your case. That is the same
Speaker 2: as someone else's that doesn't have that lawyer, and the
Speaker 2: dlorus is nothing different to defend you than the person
Speaker 2: next to you that is, you know, there for the
Speaker 2: same possession charge or whatever you got caught doing. And
Speaker 2: you'll get off if you have that lawyer because they
Speaker 2: have a deal with the judge, and then the person
Speaker 2: who did the same thing as you doesn't and has
Speaker 2: to be on probation for two years. I witnessed that
Speaker 2: happen to myself because I had a good lawyer that
Speaker 2: someone else got for me right out of because we
Speaker 2: got busted together on the street smoking weed.
Speaker 5: And you know, over a decade ago.
Speaker 2: We go to court and we have an amazing lawyer
Speaker 2: because the friend I got arrested with is was super
Speaker 2: rich and was like, I'm at fault here, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take care of you.
Speaker 5: I'm like, great, we stood up to.
Speaker 2: Get our you know, you go to court and it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, everyone stands up as they read each one.
Speaker 2: You know, we got busted for smoking weed in the street,
Speaker 2: not like any We didn't have a lot on us
Speaker 2: or anything. We all we got was you just for
Speaker 2: a year. You just can't have another drug charge and
Speaker 2: then it'll be expunged from your record, no community service, nothing.
Speaker 2: Then the next person had the same charge.
Speaker 3: The same same judge, but the same cops.
Speaker 2: Same Well, it doesn't matter the cops. It was the
Speaker 2: same charge, but it was judge sentencing, same same thing, right,
Speaker 2: And they get a year of probation and and you know,
Speaker 2: one hundred hours of community service or whatever. And I go,
Speaker 2: why shouldn't it be this gets rich. It's just everything's
Speaker 2: about money, and so I just that's why when I
Speaker 2: am like motivated by money, it's like.
Speaker 5: Duh, why wouldn't I?
Speaker 2: And then people go, why are you? You shouldn't be
Speaker 2: motivated by money. You shouldn't be motivated by esthetic things. Well,
Speaker 2: when you're hot, people throw money at you. When you're famous,
Speaker 2: they throw money at you. So me wanting to be famous,
Speaker 2: me wanting to be hot, me wanting to be rich,
Speaker 2: it's all because I want to just not go to
Speaker 2: jail and I want healthcare. Right, So it's not there's
Speaker 2: nothing vapid about those pursuits at all, because if you
Speaker 2: look at it, that's the way this world works, and
Speaker 2: it's fucking shitty. And that's why people with money should
Speaker 2: spread the money as I try to do as much
Speaker 2: as possible. But the problem is everyone is that gets
Speaker 2: money as greedy as fuck and convinces themselves that they
Speaker 2: did something so special to be rich, and other people
Speaker 2: who aren't rich aren't you just didn't do as good
Speaker 2: as me, because I'm special and I did better than you,
Speaker 2: and I'm better than you, and God chows me to
Speaker 2: be rich and he didn't choose you, and that must
Speaker 2: because you're a bad person when it really has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with that, right, yep. And those who can
Speaker 2: understand that more quickly. I don't think you even think
Speaker 2: it's possible for most people to understand that because it
Speaker 2: requires empathy, which is apparently gay now. To have empathy,
Speaker 2: it means you're weak. It means you are a sucker
Speaker 2: to have empathy. It's really all twisted. I really see
Speaker 2: the messaging being like, if you have empathy, used to
Speaker 2: be a good thing to have, and it is literally
Speaker 2: something that people look down upon people for having.
Speaker 5: Weird you see it? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It's everywhere. Yeah, No, it's why we're in this position
Speaker 2: that we're in. Everyone needs to look out for themselves,
Speaker 2: not for other people. And what is looking out for
Speaker 2: other people require you to have empathy. If you don't
Speaker 2: have it, you don't care about other people, right, And
Speaker 2: so it's just Brian, you were saying it. It's just
Speaker 2: easier dog eat dog.
Speaker 4: Just dog eat dog.
Speaker 2: So the sooner that you accept that and just look
Speaker 2: out for number one and no one else, the better
Speaker 2: time you'll have on this planet. But I'm not doing
Speaker 2: that anytime soon. I I love being miserable. I love
Speaker 2: being disappointed in other people. It motivates me, it makes
Speaker 2: me to continue to work be disappointed myself and others.
Speaker 2: And so I'm in a great fucking position right now
Speaker 2: for my career in life. I hope. Uh this was
Speaker 2: fun for you guys. Listen to mom. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for coming in. Brian, thank you, Noah, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, besties. I'll see you out on the road.
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