WEBVTT - Starring Matthew Lawrence as Dave Heinrich in “H. E. Double Hockey Sticks” 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:16.919 Hey, everybody, thank you so much for joining us on 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.239 this par copper episode of Magical rewind and. 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.280 Boy, do we have a good one for you today. Actually, 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.239 I take that back. Every week we're like this one special, 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:28.720 this one's amazing. I hate this guy, so this is 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:30.080 not a special episode. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.279 This is a terrible episode. We were forced to have 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.160 him on. He's a terrible guy and a terrible actor. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:37.880 Uh that's my intro. 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:38.640 I'm kidding. 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.280 I'm so excited to have one of my close friends on. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.319 I've known him for god almost thirty years. He's a 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:48.159 great guy and a good friend. Please help me welcome 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.120 my partner in crime, not only on Boy Meets World, 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:56.600 but also on HG Double Hockey Sticks. Mister Matthew Lawrence? 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.080 Buddy, what's going on? Guys? 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:03.240 What are you? 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:04.280 Oh? 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.560 Good man? I felt weird. I was like, should I 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.839 have texted him before we just jump on podcast? 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:09.840 No? 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:11.200 Hell no, let's just jump on. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:13.080 Uh. 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:18.199 We just finished our deep dive rewatch of nineteen ninety 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.760 nine's little film H Double Hockey Sticks. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:22.959 Can you believe that way? 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.959 I mean, that's what twenty five years ago we did 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:26.400 this movie? 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.800 Dude, so long ago, it's crazy. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.039 I have so many great memories because for me, that 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.679 was like, that was the first time my family let 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:36.320 me out of my own. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.240 Was it you were on set without your parents there? 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.839 Oh yeah, this is big. I was. I just turned eighteen. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:43.280 Huge. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:44.280 Yeah. 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.040 And uh and uh well I had I had to 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.600 have a guardian with me regardless on set. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.680 And it was in We shot in Vancouver. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:52.320 Yeah. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.440 Uh so it was out of the country, which is 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.120 another big thing. They were like, well, it's your you 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:57.880 could go if you want. I'm like, I'm going alone. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.360 I'm going. I'm doing it. 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:01.800 It was great, dude. We had a blast. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:02.080 Man. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.040 I got to learn how to play hockey. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.680 Well that's one thing I want to Okay, so let's 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:07.480 go back to the beginning. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:08.720 When did you because no, no, no, no, no. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.560 This is good because I was trying to remember when 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.200 did you first hear about h double hockey sticks? Because 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.040 I think we talked about it on the set, didn't 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.280 we when they were like, hey, they're offering us this film. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.680 Yeah, right, neither one of you guys auditioned, right, No, no. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.240 No, it was like, yeah, it was you were definitely 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.040 a part of it before me though. It was what 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.120 I think, Oh, really, I think I see I think 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.239 they I think they kind of did it together. Oh okay, okay, 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.600 because I was like I was like, if we'll doing it, 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:36.160 I'm doing it. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:37.920 If Well's not doing it, I'm not doing it. You know. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:39.320 I think I said the same thing. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:39.840 I was. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.920 I did the same well because we had been they 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.880 partnered us up right away, which they brought you onto 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.280 Boy Meets World to play Rider's brother, but partnered us 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:49.760 up right away right away. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:51.079 Yeah, within like two episodes. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.360 Yeah, it was like, oh that's why. Yeah, it didn't matter. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.280 It's like it doesn't matter. He's Rider's brother, who cares. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.400 But then I remember we were both kind of doing 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.839 the same thing where we were like, did. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:03.440 Disney call you about to do it? 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:03.720 Yeah? 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.120 Disney, And it's like, well are you doing it? 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:05.399 Yeah? 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.120 You doing okay, and so we were just like all right, 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:07.880 let's go do it. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:08.840 Yeah. 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.280 But had we even I don't think we even read 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.440 the script, did no. 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:21.640 No, it was like Boys Trip Vancouver kind of yeah, kind. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.080 Of, Yeah, it was you know, yeah, it was super fun. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.680 I mean, dude, I I all. I I remember hearing 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.839 like the log line where you were playing like this 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.840 devil character, and I was like, Oh, that's that's gonna 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:34.359 be great. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:35.560 That's gonna be so much fun. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.840 And then knowing how well you know it went with 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.080 you know, the straight guy versus you going for the 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.160 on boy met squirrel, that was like, oh, this is 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:45.960 this is a no brainer, right, I didn't need. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.360 To read the script forget it. 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:51.400 Why were you a fan of hockey? 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.880 Did that have any aspect of it that you would 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.080 be able to Did you know how to skate? 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:56.480 First? 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:58.440 No, that was one of those. 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.040 That you were like, I've skated once? 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:09.920 Was it that? Oh yeah, yeah, no problem, totally huge 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:11.200 into hockey and skating. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.200 No. I couldn't stand on the ice, that's about it. 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:18.960 Okay, wow Yeah, threw like, oh. 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.240 My gosh, weeks. Wasn't it three or four weeks? 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:22.920 Yeah? 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.360 Wow? Intense. I mean it was every day. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.120 I would wake up, you know, like five or six 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.640 in the morning, and I would go over to this. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:33.880 Like I think it was Pickwicks. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.039 It was it was Pickwicks because I had to go. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:41.400 I trained for like two days. Yeah. I like you 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.839 had to like come out on the ice and that 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:44.240 was it. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:46.640 Yeah. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.840 Yeah, I trained for like two days and you were 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:50.640 there sweating every day for weeks. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.360 Oh my gosh. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.320 Although you know what's a valuable lesson that I did 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:59.120 learn during that is the importance of failure when it 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.600 comes to trying to acomplish things that are way out 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.280 of your comfort zone. Are big things that you think 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.839 you're not gonna be able to accomplish. Failure is the 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.159 way you that's this, that's the ladder. Those are the 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.760 wrong ladder that you take to succeeding. And he taught 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.720 me that because I was having real, real trouble finding 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.400 an edge on the ice skate and uh, he was like, 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:20.440 you know what the problem is. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.000 You're afraid. You're afraid to fall. 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.200 And I was like, you're not supposed to fall, that's 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:25.720 the whole one to stay up. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.720 He's like, no, you are afraid. You got to start falling. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.159 So you put these weighted like cones on my arms. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.840 Every time I would go out and I would either 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.360 fall one way or the other. But I'll tell you what, 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.560 after a day or two of doing that, man, I 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:44.080 had an edge. I found I was able to start 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.240 to do crossover and that just started That opened up 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.279 the entire door to being able to ice skate and 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.599 then again amazing they put me on the ice with 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:56.760 the Canucks and like there was like this one player. Again, 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.680 I'm not a huge I respect the heck out of 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:03.919 the game. It is really tough to stay up and 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:04.960 do all the stuff they're doing. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:06.640 It it's it's ridiculous. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.400 But remember in their names is tough. 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:14.040 Those names are not easy. Last name either Smith, It's 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:15.280 not no, No. 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:20.159 It was a very French Quebec type Canadian name. I 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:21.320 don't know, but he was great. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.200 Everybody was like you got to be on the ice 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.559 with this guy, and I was like, yeah, it's super cool. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.880 Things about acting that. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:29.960 No, but I remember. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:34.000 So they Pickwick by the way, still open in Burbank, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.440 it still goes stay there, yep, still there, And I 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.600 remember going. So they're like, hey, Matt has been training 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.479 for like three weeks a month to do this. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:45.360 You've got to go and just make sure you can 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.360 stand on skates. So I'm like, that's fine. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.520 I stood in my little corner and I was going. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.480 But I remember the guy who was training you was 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.400 was an older, an older dude, and he said to 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.760 you in front of me, He's like, oh, if if 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.080 he'd get if he gives me like another six months 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.640 he could be like a legitimate actual hockey player, like 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:05.440 saying that about you. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:07.159 Yeah, he was super cool. 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.800 Yeah, yeah, we bonded. You know, it was like that coach, 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:14.160 that mentor type of place. He was so cool with it, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:15.760 and he just he. 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.440 Helped me so much because there's just a way that 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.880 like you wear the hockey gloves, and the way that 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.880 you carry the stick when you're just kind of not 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.560 if like there's a time out called the way the 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.520 guys kind of float around the ice, just. 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.200 The kind of saunter that they use when they're walking 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.200 to the ice. Like he was such a great vat 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.360 that to pull from to as to learn to be 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:38.160 a hockey player. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.720 And then yeah, he was super cool man. I you know, 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.840 I've always loved that. I love, you know, the athletics stuff. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.679 I really do, and I was always I always wanted 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.640 to be Maybe I always wanted to be in the NBA, 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.920 but I was just not tall enough. Excuse they're having 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.680 players that have been under five nine before. But I 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.160 don't know, I just kind of so I really athletics. 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:05.000 I love it so very competitive. So when I chance 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.360 to learn something like that, like I take it very 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.520 seriously and maybe that's what he was mentioned. 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:10.080 He must have. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.120 But do you remember The other thing I remember is 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.520 that he wasn't just training you at the time. You 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.880 were training then with like his nephew or somebody who 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:22.840 was like seventeen and. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:23.600 Was a prodigy. 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.040 He's like, oh, this this kid was American app Yeah, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:30.920 yeah he was. I actually stayed in touch with him, 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:32.960 funny enough, because I wanted to see where his career 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:34.839 was gonna go. Yeah cool, and he was kind of 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:39.280 like groundbreaking in many ways. And he he I think 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:40.040 he got injured. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.120 Bro, No, oh yeah, I think so. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.960 I don't think it actually, But talk about raising the stakes, 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.280 like now you're next to this. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.600 Like it was just the two of them too. It 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.400 wasn't like you it's not. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.560 Like hey, I could just take this at my own pace. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.680 Hey I'm gonna do it in front of an almost 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.080 professional Yeah. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:08:58.600 It was. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.760 It was like, yeah, hey, it's you're one of it. 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.880 Here's a basketball you've never played before, and then you're 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:04.120 you're training with Michael Jordan. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:08.479 It was like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's wilds wild. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:16.040 All right. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:20.360 So we get up to Vancouver. Yeah, do you remember 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.720 any of the kind of shooting. So there's certainly rewatching 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.920 the movie. I don't know if you've seen it recently, Yeah, 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:28.120 we were. 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.440 I mean i've seen it me either, you know, but 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.480 there are things that came back to me as I 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:34.920 was watching. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.280 Oh that's right, Oh that's right, Like did you end 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:45.599 up dating the girl that played? Yeah? No, no, what 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:48.400 I can't remember what happened? 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:52.640 I couldn't remember. 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:56.960 Okay, well you set the record straight here, please do please? 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:01.400 Do you know we were both you and on this set, 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:06.680 and I think you know, I was very strict about 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.840 as you know, even with being on the set, like 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.880 and I genuinely really did have a thing for Danielle. 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.160 But when we were working, as you noticed. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:16.800 Oh we didn't even we didn't know that you guys 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.480 were dating until like twenty years later. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.480 And the thing is what and the thing was is 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:22.920 that we didn't I was even like. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:29.120 Look, while we're on set together, you know, until that ends. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:30.920 I don't even want to get real serious, Like it 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:34.120 was just like literally friends, sure until that, you know, 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.080 we can hang out and watch movies, but let's not 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.120 go anywhere until after, because I don't One thing I 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.320 don't want to do is mess up the unit, the 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:41.800 family group smart and that's how. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.240 You do it, and you know you don't. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.200 Yeah, terrible expression, and I'm not going to say it 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:48.400 related to that. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:49.800 You don't want to rock you don't want. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:50.280 To rock the boat. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.960 There you go, exactly what I was gonna say. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.640 I was still in that mind frame where I was 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.200 like and I also had a thing for Danielle's still, 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.240 so I was like, I was trying to be kind 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.120 of political with like not just like stay away from me. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:07.720 I was maybe I didn't know how to handle it 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.800 that way, but I definitely was like, this is not 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:11.800 this can't be anything, you. 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.960 Know, Okay, So I couldn't remember if you got. 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.319 Yeah, she was totally like, you know, let's be young 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:18.800 and fun, but I was like, no, no, I got 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.800 you know, I got work and I've got people I 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:21.360 care about. 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:26.640 Nice. I didn't have that philosophy because I remember, do you. 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.480 Remember, well the story I don't think I've ever told before, 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.440 And I'm not sure you're going to remember this. Do 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:36.920 you remember when you almost got me killed? What you 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.520 almost inadvertently got me dead? 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.520 You don't remember this now? 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:42.840 Did? All? Right? 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.040 So what the heck? 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.440 So you and I were obviously hanging out the whole 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.200 time we were shooting the movie, and you know that 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.600 I are. I started seeing the girl who was the 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:57.480 hockey the the the figure skater, Kila, right, Okay, I 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.040 remember Kila and I ended. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.400 Up dating for like two years. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:06.600 And Kila beforehand, before she was dating me, was dating 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:11.040 a hockey player who was a Canuck and he was huge. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:17.480 She's no that guy that they're called inforcers because they're 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:18.880 put on the ice to fight. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.240 I remember, now, you know it's funny. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:21.720 I remember now. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.160 I think that's the way you described it to me. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:28.040 Then they're put on the ice to the fight. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.560 So we're walking on the street in Vancouver one day, 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:35.000 you and I and we see the girl who plays 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.240 the the played your love interest in the movie walking 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.959 up with this huge man and we're like, She's. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.120 Like, hey, what are you guys doing. We're like, oh, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:43.720 we're hanging. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.760 Out and You're like, joker be like he's in love. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.040 He just fell in love. And they have been hanging 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.880 out all the time. And the guy she's standing with 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:56.880 was Kila's ex boyfriend, enforcer who's turning bright red. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.439 And I'm like, oh, I think that's the dude. Oh 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.520 I think that's the guy, and I. 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:09.000 Sitting Hey, he just stole her from some dingis and 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.600 it was just like, oh god, and so we walked 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:12.160 away and. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:15.960 It was so bad. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.000 I saw the next day she came up to as 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:20.400 the actress came up to us and was like. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.200 What the hell were you thinking? We're both like what 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.000 what are you talking about? Like, that's her ex. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.120 Boy was like, that's the guy who kills people. 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.160 You and I were like you're like you looked at me. 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.760 You're like I almost got you killed? Like, yes, you 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:38.440 almost got Oh god, it was so funny. Oh god, 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:39.360 it was so funny. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:44.880 But oh man, when you when we got to the 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:49.240 set and we were shooting, do you remember a lot 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.439 of the script meetings we were having at the time, 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.120 because I remember you and I didn't like how it ended. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.640 Mm, yeah, that's right. I do remember this. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.280 Yeah, we were they kept it. 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:04.360 Well. 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.280 No, The thing I remember was, if I'm not wrong, 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.559 they were writing the script every day we were shooting. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:11.800 Yeah, I really. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:12.959 Yeah. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.440 So you guys had like dailies that were coming in 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.480 with like fully like seeing changes, like creates. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:19.080 Well that's the thing. 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.680 But the thing that I remember the most that threw 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.400 me was not that they were just rewriting the scenes 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.960 we had during the day, but they were then rewriting 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.000 the rest of the script, and we weren't going home 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.720 and reading the entire script every night. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.680 We were reading what we had to shoot the next 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.920 day because they're changing it. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.960 So it's like we've got six pages to shoot tomorrow 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.560 or nine pages to shoot tomorrow. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.600 We got to know these lines because they keep switching 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:42.880 it up. 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.480 What we did not know, and maybe that's on us 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.720 because we should have been reading the script every night, 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.920 was that they'd also completely changed the third act, right, Yeah, 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.400 I remember that, So, yeah, you and I then read 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.600 we at one point we're going to shoot. We're like, 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.320 what the like originally Griffulkin wasn't going to get on 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.480 the ice because that didn't make any sense, and we're like, 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.240 what the hell is going on with this? And they 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.120 were like, you know, we changed this like two weeks ago, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.240 and we're like, you're changing it every day. 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.280 We can't, you know, we can't. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.840 Keep up, and so we had kind of a we 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:15.800 went we went back and forth with the producers for 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:17.680 a little while, who were like, guys, this is this 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.880 is the ending now and we were like, all right, 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.400 I guess I get on the ice now in a 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:24.800 mask for some reason. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.800 But I remember, Yeah, don't you remember having a problem 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:28.040 with that? 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.840 Yes, for sure, I remember seeing all. You know how 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.080 every time they do a script change, it's a different color. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.200 Yes, I remembering your rainbow like. 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:39.720 Keep this straight. 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.680 Yeah, they're like going into like periwinkle purple. 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:46.800 Dude, They're not even a rainbow color anymore. It's like, 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:47.720 what the he this is? 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.960 Like, what the hell color is that? I still I 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:52.560 don't know where it is around me, but I still 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:53.840 have the final. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.640 Draft script of all the colors and our notes and 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.160 kind of all the stuff going on. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:00.200 Uh. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.880 All right, but you know what, I feel bad. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:06.480 We should We should have gone back and really introduced 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:07.640 you to our audience. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.880 Tell us a little bit about how you became an actor. 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:12.760 Let's do that. 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:19.720 How I became an actor? Well, Uh, I have an 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:26.320 older brother who Reginald, Reginald Reginald Reginald Lawrence. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:27.800 Uh. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:33.160 He was he was, he was evacuated with it and 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:38.920 he uh always wanted to be inside the TV. And 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.000 then we were in the mall, the will Grove mall, 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.280 and it was my mom and Joe and I. This 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.040 was before our youngest Andy was born, and there was 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.280 like a contest, a photography contest, and I didn't want 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:51.640 to do it, but Joe really wanted to enter it, 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.760 so he entered it and he won, and the winnings 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.160 of that was a meeting with an agent in Manhattan. 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.880 So I we always kind of were like, I. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.480 Don't know, my mom didn't want to split us up 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.320 and couldn't didn't want to do daycare and all this 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.080 kind of stuff. My dad was working, so I just 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.320 went with Joe where he went. So I went to 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.600 the meeting as well, and uh, and then Joe started 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.680 booking commercials, and then as he got too old, they 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.040 started really putting pressure on me to fill those younger 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.080 commercial slots. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.040 I kind of it was weird. I kind of had 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.280 like an aversion to it. At first, I was more. 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.520 Introverted than he was, the middle child, thinking, you know, 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.160 the second born at least and at that point, and 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:32.879 but then I did. 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.840 A couple and uh, and. 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.800 Then I and then I did a sitcom with Joe 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.119 called give Me a Break, and that was a blood 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.280