Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, thank you so much for joining us on
Speaker 1: this par copper episode of Magical rewind and.
Speaker 2: Boy, do we have a good one for you today. Actually,
Speaker 2: I take that back. Every week we're like this one special,
Speaker 2: this one's amazing. I hate this guy, so this is
Speaker 2: not a special episode.
Speaker 1: This is a terrible episode. We were forced to have
Speaker 1: him on. He's a terrible guy and a terrible actor.
Speaker 1: Uh that's my intro.
Speaker 3: I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have one of my close friends on.
Speaker 1: I've known him for god almost thirty years. He's a
Speaker 1: great guy and a good friend. Please help me welcome
Speaker 1: my partner in crime, not only on Boy Meets World,
Speaker 1: but also on HG Double Hockey Sticks. Mister Matthew Lawrence?
Speaker 4: Buddy, what's going on? Guys?
Speaker 3: What are you?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Good man? I felt weird. I was like, should I
Speaker 4: have texted him before we just jump on podcast?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Hell no, let's just jump on.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: We just finished our deep dive rewatch of nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: nine's little film H Double Hockey Sticks.
Speaker 3: Can you believe that way?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what twenty five years ago we did
Speaker 2: this movie?
Speaker 3: Dude, so long ago, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I have so many great memories because for me, that
Speaker 2: was like, that was the first time my family let
Speaker 2: me out of my own.
Speaker 5: Was it you were on set without your parents there?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is big. I was. I just turned eighteen.
Speaker 2: Huge.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And uh and uh well I had I had to
Speaker 2: have a guardian with me regardless on set.
Speaker 4: And it was in We shot in Vancouver.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh so it was out of the country, which is
Speaker 2: another big thing. They were like, well, it's your you
Speaker 2: could go if you want. I'm like, I'm going alone.
Speaker 3: I'm going. I'm doing it.
Speaker 4: It was great, dude. We had a blast.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I got to learn how to play hockey.
Speaker 2: Well that's one thing I want to Okay, so let's
Speaker 2: go back to the beginning.
Speaker 3: When did you because no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: This is good because I was trying to remember when
Speaker 1: did you first hear about h double hockey sticks? Because
Speaker 1: I think we talked about it on the set, didn't
Speaker 1: we when they were like, hey, they're offering us this film.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, neither one of you guys auditioned, right, No, no.
Speaker 2: No, it was like, yeah, it was you were definitely
Speaker 2: a part of it before me though. It was what
Speaker 2: I think, Oh, really, I think I see I think
Speaker 2: they I think they kind of did it together. Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 2: because I was like I was like, if we'll doing it,
Speaker 2: I'm doing it.
Speaker 4: If Well's not doing it, I'm not doing it. You know.
Speaker 3: I think I said the same thing.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I did the same well because we had been they
Speaker 1: partnered us up right away, which they brought you onto
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World to play Rider's brother, but partnered us
Speaker 1: up right away right away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, within like two episodes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like, oh that's why. Yeah, it didn't matter.
Speaker 3: It's like it doesn't matter. He's Rider's brother, who cares.
Speaker 2: But then I remember we were both kind of doing
Speaker 2: the same thing where we were like, did.
Speaker 3: Disney call you about to do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Disney, And it's like, well are you doing it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You doing okay, and so we were just like all right,
Speaker 3: let's go do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But had we even I don't think we even read
Speaker 3: the script, did no.
Speaker 5: No, it was like Boys Trip Vancouver kind of yeah, kind.
Speaker 2: Of, Yeah, it was you know, yeah, it was super fun.
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, I I all. I I remember hearing
Speaker 2: like the log line where you were playing like this
Speaker 2: devil character, and I was like, Oh, that's that's gonna
Speaker 2: be great.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be so much fun.
Speaker 2: And then knowing how well you know it went with
Speaker 2: you know, the straight guy versus you going for the
Speaker 2: on boy met squirrel, that was like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: this is a no brainer, right, I didn't need.
Speaker 4: To read the script forget it.
Speaker 6: Why were you a fan of hockey?
Speaker 5: Did that have any aspect of it that you would
Speaker 5: be able to Did you know how to skate?
Speaker 6: First?
Speaker 4: No, that was one of those.
Speaker 6: That you were like, I've skated once?
Speaker 2: Was it that? Oh yeah, yeah, no problem, totally huge
Speaker 2: into hockey and skating.
Speaker 4: No. I couldn't stand on the ice, that's about it.
Speaker 6: Okay, wow Yeah, threw like, oh.
Speaker 4: My gosh, weeks. Wasn't it three or four weeks?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Wow? Intense. I mean it was every day.
Speaker 2: I would wake up, you know, like five or six
Speaker 2: in the morning, and I would go over to this.
Speaker 4: Like I think it was Pickwicks.
Speaker 2: It was it was Pickwicks because I had to go.
Speaker 2: I trained for like two days. Yeah. I like you
Speaker 2: had to like come out on the ice and that
Speaker 2: was it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I trained for like two days and you were
Speaker 2: there sweating every day for weeks.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Although you know what's a valuable lesson that I did
Speaker 2: learn during that is the importance of failure when it
Speaker 2: comes to trying to acomplish things that are way out
Speaker 2: of your comfort zone. Are big things that you think
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to accomplish. Failure is the
Speaker 2: way you that's this, that's the ladder. Those are the
Speaker 2: wrong ladder that you take to succeeding. And he taught
Speaker 2: me that because I was having real, real trouble finding
Speaker 2: an edge on the ice skate and uh, he was like,
Speaker 2: you know what the problem is.
Speaker 4: You're afraid. You're afraid to fall.
Speaker 2: And I was like, you're not supposed to fall, that's
Speaker 2: the whole one to stay up.
Speaker 4: He's like, no, you are afraid. You got to start falling.
Speaker 2: So you put these weighted like cones on my arms.
Speaker 2: Every time I would go out and I would either
Speaker 2: fall one way or the other. But I'll tell you what,
Speaker 2: after a day or two of doing that, man, I
Speaker 2: had an edge. I found I was able to start
Speaker 2: to do crossover and that just started That opened up
Speaker 2: the entire door to being able to ice skate and
Speaker 2: then again amazing they put me on the ice with
Speaker 2: the Canucks and like there was like this one player. Again,
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge I respect the heck out of
Speaker 2: the game. It is really tough to stay up and
Speaker 2: do all the stuff they're doing.
Speaker 4: It it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 6: But remember in their names is tough.
Speaker 5: Those names are not easy. Last name either Smith, It's
Speaker 5: not no, No.
Speaker 4: It was a very French Quebec type Canadian name. I
Speaker 4: don't know, but he was great.
Speaker 2: Everybody was like you got to be on the ice
Speaker 2: with this guy, and I was like, yeah, it's super cool.
Speaker 4: Things about acting that.
Speaker 3: No, but I remember.
Speaker 1: So they Pickwick by the way, still open in Burbank,
Speaker 1: it still goes stay there, yep, still there, And I
Speaker 1: remember going. So they're like, hey, Matt has been training
Speaker 1: for like three weeks a month to do this.
Speaker 3: You've got to go and just make sure you can
Speaker 3: stand on skates. So I'm like, that's fine.
Speaker 2: I stood in my little corner and I was going.
Speaker 2: But I remember the guy who was training you was
Speaker 2: was an older, an older dude, and he said to
Speaker 2: you in front of me, He's like, oh, if if
Speaker 2: he'd get if he gives me like another six months
Speaker 2: he could be like a legitimate actual hockey player, like
Speaker 2: saying that about you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was super cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we bonded. You know, it was like that coach,
Speaker 4: that mentor type of place. He was so cool with it,
Speaker 4: and he just he.
Speaker 2: Helped me so much because there's just a way that
Speaker 2: like you wear the hockey gloves, and the way that
Speaker 2: you carry the stick when you're just kind of not
Speaker 2: if like there's a time out called the way the
Speaker 2: guys kind of float around the ice, just.
Speaker 4: The kind of saunter that they use when they're walking
Speaker 4: to the ice. Like he was such a great vat
Speaker 4: that to pull from to as to learn to be
Speaker 4: a hockey player.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, he was super cool man. I you know,
Speaker 2: I've always loved that. I love, you know, the athletics stuff.
Speaker 2: I really do, and I was always I always wanted
Speaker 2: to be Maybe I always wanted to be in the NBA,
Speaker 2: but I was just not tall enough. Excuse they're having
Speaker 2: players that have been under five nine before. But I
Speaker 2: don't know, I just kind of so I really athletics.
Speaker 2: I love it so very competitive. So when I chance
Speaker 2: to learn something like that, like I take it very
Speaker 2: seriously and maybe that's what he was mentioned.
Speaker 3: He must have.
Speaker 1: But do you remember The other thing I remember is
Speaker 1: that he wasn't just training you at the time. You
Speaker 1: were training then with like his nephew or somebody who
Speaker 1: was like seventeen and.
Speaker 3: Was a prodigy.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, this this kid was American app Yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah he was. I actually stayed in touch with him,
Speaker 2: funny enough, because I wanted to see where his career
Speaker 2: was gonna go. Yeah cool, and he was kind of
Speaker 2: like groundbreaking in many ways. And he he I think
Speaker 2: he got injured.
Speaker 3: Bro, No, oh yeah, I think so.
Speaker 5: I don't think it actually, But talk about raising the stakes,
Speaker 5: like now you're next to this.
Speaker 3: Like it was just the two of them too. It
Speaker 3: wasn't like you it's not.
Speaker 5: Like hey, I could just take this at my own pace.
Speaker 5: Hey I'm gonna do it in front of an almost
Speaker 5: professional Yeah.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, hey, it's you're one of it.
Speaker 2: Here's a basketball you've never played before, and then you're
Speaker 2: you're training with Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4: It was like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's wilds wild.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: So we get up to Vancouver. Yeah, do you remember
Speaker 2: any of the kind of shooting. So there's certainly rewatching
Speaker 2: the movie. I don't know if you've seen it recently, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we were.
Speaker 1: I mean i've seen it me either, you know, but
Speaker 1: there are things that came back to me as I
Speaker 1: was watching.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Oh that's right, Like did you end
Speaker 3: up dating the girl that played? Yeah? No, no, what
Speaker 3: I can't remember what happened?
Speaker 6: I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2: Okay, well you set the record straight here, please do please?
Speaker 2: Do you know we were both you and on this set,
Speaker 2: and I think you know, I was very strict about
Speaker 2: as you know, even with being on the set, like
Speaker 2: and I genuinely really did have a thing for Danielle.
Speaker 4: But when we were working, as you noticed.
Speaker 2: Oh we didn't even we didn't know that you guys
Speaker 2: were dating until like twenty years later.
Speaker 4: And the thing is what and the thing was is
Speaker 4: that we didn't I was even like.
Speaker 2: Look, while we're on set together, you know, until that ends.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to get real serious, Like it
Speaker 2: was just like literally friends, sure until that, you know,
Speaker 2: we can hang out and watch movies, but let's not
Speaker 2: go anywhere until after, because I don't One thing I
Speaker 2: don't want to do is mess up the unit, the
Speaker 2: family group smart and that's how.
Speaker 4: You do it, and you know you don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, terrible expression, and I'm not going to say it
Speaker 2: related to that.
Speaker 4: You don't want to rock you don't want.
Speaker 3: To rock the boat.
Speaker 4: There you go, exactly what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: I was still in that mind frame where I was
Speaker 2: like and I also had a thing for Danielle's still,
Speaker 2: so I was like, I was trying to be kind
Speaker 2: of political with like not just like stay away from me.
Speaker 2: I was maybe I didn't know how to handle it
Speaker 2: that way, but I definitely was like, this is not
Speaker 2: this can't be anything, you.
Speaker 3: Know, Okay, So I couldn't remember if you got.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was totally like, you know, let's be young
Speaker 2: and fun, but I was like, no, no, I got
Speaker 2: you know, I got work and I've got people I
Speaker 2: care about.
Speaker 3: Nice. I didn't have that philosophy because I remember, do you.
Speaker 2: Remember, well the story I don't think I've ever told before,
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure you're going to remember this. Do
Speaker 2: you remember when you almost got me killed? What you
Speaker 2: almost inadvertently got me dead?
Speaker 4: You don't remember this now?
Speaker 2: Did? All? Right?
Speaker 3: So what the heck?
Speaker 2: So you and I were obviously hanging out the whole
Speaker 2: time we were shooting the movie, and you know that
Speaker 2: I are. I started seeing the girl who was the
Speaker 2: hockey the the the figure skater, Kila, right, Okay, I
Speaker 2: remember Kila and I ended.
Speaker 3: Up dating for like two years.
Speaker 2: And Kila beforehand, before she was dating me, was dating
Speaker 2: a hockey player who was a Canuck and he was huge.
Speaker 2: She's no that guy that they're called inforcers because they're
Speaker 2: put on the ice to fight.
Speaker 4: I remember, now, you know it's funny.
Speaker 3: I remember now.
Speaker 4: I think that's the way you described it to me.
Speaker 4: Then they're put on the ice to the fight.
Speaker 1: So we're walking on the street in Vancouver one day,
Speaker 1: you and I and we see the girl who plays
Speaker 1: the the played your love interest in the movie walking
Speaker 1: up with this huge man and we're like, She's.
Speaker 3: Like, hey, what are you guys doing. We're like, oh,
Speaker 3: we're hanging.
Speaker 2: Out and You're like, joker be like he's in love.
Speaker 2: He just fell in love. And they have been hanging
Speaker 2: out all the time. And the guy she's standing with
Speaker 2: was Kila's ex boyfriend, enforcer who's turning bright red.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, I think that's the dude. Oh
Speaker 3: I think that's the guy, and I.
Speaker 2: Sitting Hey, he just stole her from some dingis and
Speaker 2: it was just like, oh god, and so we walked
Speaker 2: away and.
Speaker 4: It was so bad.
Speaker 2: I saw the next day she came up to as
Speaker 2: the actress came up to us and was like.
Speaker 3: What the hell were you thinking? We're both like what
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Like, that's her ex.
Speaker 2: Boy was like, that's the guy who kills people.
Speaker 3: You and I were like you're like you looked at me.
Speaker 3: You're like I almost got you killed? Like, yes, you
Speaker 3: almost got Oh god, it was so funny. Oh god,
Speaker 3: it was so funny.
Speaker 2: But oh man, when you when we got to the
Speaker 2: set and we were shooting, do you remember a lot
Speaker 2: of the script meetings we were having at the time,
Speaker 2: because I remember you and I didn't like how it ended.
Speaker 4: Mm, yeah, that's right. I do remember this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were they kept it.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: No, The thing I remember was, if I'm not wrong,
Speaker 1: they were writing the script every day we were shooting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So you guys had like dailies that were coming in
Speaker 5: with like fully like seeing changes, like creates.
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1: But the thing that I remember the most that threw
Speaker 1: me was not that they were just rewriting the scenes
Speaker 1: we had during the day, but they were then rewriting
Speaker 1: the rest of the script, and we weren't going home
Speaker 1: and reading the entire script every night.
Speaker 3: We were reading what we had to shoot the next
Speaker 3: day because they're changing it.
Speaker 2: So it's like we've got six pages to shoot tomorrow
Speaker 2: or nine pages to shoot tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We got to know these lines because they keep switching
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 2: What we did not know, and maybe that's on us
Speaker 2: because we should have been reading the script every night,
Speaker 2: was that they'd also completely changed the third act, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember that, So, yeah, you and I then read
Speaker 2: we at one point we're going to shoot. We're like,
Speaker 2: what the like originally Griffulkin wasn't going to get on
Speaker 2: the ice because that didn't make any sense, and we're like,
Speaker 2: what the hell is going on with this? And they
Speaker 2: were like, you know, we changed this like two weeks ago,
Speaker 2: and we're like, you're changing it every day.
Speaker 3: We can't, you know, we can't.
Speaker 1: Keep up, and so we had kind of a we
Speaker 1: went we went back and forth with the producers for
Speaker 1: a little while, who were like, guys, this is this
Speaker 1: is the ending now and we were like, all right,
Speaker 1: I guess I get on the ice now in a
Speaker 1: mask for some reason.
Speaker 3: But I remember, Yeah, don't you remember having a problem
Speaker 3: with that?
Speaker 4: Yes, for sure, I remember seeing all. You know how
Speaker 4: every time they do a script change, it's a different color.
Speaker 6: Yes, I remembering your rainbow like.
Speaker 3: Keep this straight.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're like going into like periwinkle purple.
Speaker 3: Dude, They're not even a rainbow color anymore. It's like,
Speaker 3: what the he this is?
Speaker 1: Like, what the hell color is that? I still I
Speaker 1: don't know where it is around me, but I still
Speaker 1: have the final.
Speaker 2: Draft script of all the colors and our notes and
Speaker 2: kind of all the stuff going on.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: All right, but you know what, I feel bad.
Speaker 2: We should We should have gone back and really introduced
Speaker 2: you to our audience.
Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about how you became an actor.
Speaker 3: Let's do that.
Speaker 4: How I became an actor? Well, Uh, I have an
Speaker 4: older brother who Reginald, Reginald Reginald Reginald Lawrence.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: He was he was, he was evacuated with it and
Speaker 2: he uh always wanted to be inside the TV. And
Speaker 2: then we were in the mall, the will Grove mall,
Speaker 2: and it was my mom and Joe and I. This
Speaker 2: was before our youngest Andy was born, and there was
Speaker 2: like a contest, a photography contest, and I didn't want
Speaker 2: to do it, but Joe really wanted to enter it,
Speaker 2: so he entered it and he won, and the winnings
Speaker 2: of that was a meeting with an agent in Manhattan.
Speaker 4: So I we always kind of were like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, my mom didn't want to split us up
Speaker 2: and couldn't didn't want to do daycare and all this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. My dad was working, so I just
Speaker 2: went with Joe where he went. So I went to
Speaker 2: the meeting as well, and uh, and then Joe started
Speaker 2: booking commercials, and then as he got too old, they
Speaker 2: started really putting pressure on me to fill those younger
Speaker 2: commercial slots.
Speaker 4: I kind of it was weird. I kind of had
Speaker 4: like an aversion to it. At first, I was more.
Speaker 2: Introverted than he was, the middle child, thinking, you know,
Speaker 2: the second born at least and at that point, and
Speaker 2: but then I did.
Speaker 4: A couple and uh, and.
Speaker 2: Then I and then I did a sitcom with Joe
Speaker 2: called give Me a Break, and that was a blood
Speaker 2: I had a That's when I like caught the fever
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 3: I guess then, and you're here, how old are you
Speaker 3: by this point?
Speaker 4: It was like four. Fuck, Wow, it's weird. Let me
Speaker 4: tell you it's weird.
Speaker 2: I mean thinking now, you know, as you get older,
Speaker 2: maybe you have kids.
Speaker 4: And my older brothers got two kids.
Speaker 2: Like it's wild to think that we were already almost
Speaker 2: veterans by their age at you know, fifteen and eighteen.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, wow, it's crazing almost veterans. You
Speaker 2: were full on veterans by fifteen and eighteen. I was
Speaker 2: because because when I remember when we first met and
Speaker 2: we were talking, you getting to know each other, You're like, oh,
Speaker 2: when did you get into the business?
Speaker 3: I was like, I got in young. I was ten,
Speaker 3: and you're.
Speaker 2: Like, eh, because I was like ten, Like I had
Speaker 2: been working for seven and a half years by the
Speaker 2: time I was ten years old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you I mean you essentially grew up in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. And it's it's I got really
Speaker 4: really blessed with.
Speaker 2: A family unit that is very like we're even though
Speaker 2: we're Hollywood and we've been doing it for so long,
Speaker 2: we're almost anti Hollywood, Like we don't we're on the
Speaker 2: outside of the bubble. We've never been on the inside
Speaker 2: of the bubble. You know. It was always something that
Speaker 2: we did most of the most. We still grew up
Speaker 2: most the time in a rural town in Pennsylvania, so
Speaker 2: we had this like this bubble around us where I
Speaker 2: didn't even kind of know, you know, I think it
Speaker 2: was actually, you know what, it was a huge.
Speaker 4: Surprise to me.
Speaker 2: Let me put it that way when we did the
Speaker 2: Macy's Day Parade the first season of the sitcom that
Speaker 2: we had Brotherly Love, and we did the Macy's Day Parade,
Speaker 2: and I, you know, we were in this bubble.
Speaker 3: I had no.
Speaker 2: Clue literally to how popular, and you know, and even
Speaker 2: going through like Missus Dalifie and everything, like, I understood
Speaker 2: the popularity of it, but I never really it never
Speaker 2: hit me personally.
Speaker 4: I was young.
Speaker 2: It was twelve, but fifteen, I guess, we're we're doing
Speaker 2: this Macy's Day parade. And the way they do it
Speaker 2: is they line up all the have you guys ever
Speaker 2: done the the They line you up basically, and then
Speaker 2: they line up all the marching bands and all and
Speaker 2: the floats go through them out into the.
Speaker 4: Public and then you go down, you know, do this
Speaker 4: thing and We're getting up there and it's cold, you know,
Speaker 4: and like, all right, you know this is cooling, may
Speaker 4: stay paride. You gotta do this little scene numbers. So
Speaker 4: we're like practicing the scene number and then they wheel
Speaker 4: or float out and all the marching bands start. It
Speaker 4: just it It sounds like a rock concert.
Speaker 7: And I'm like what, and Joe hits me, he goes, no, no.
Speaker 4: That's that's for us, guys. And I was like what.
Speaker 8: And then we pull into the thing and the streets
Speaker 8: and I was like, okay, so there was I kind
Speaker 8: of realized that then there was this just profound thing
Speaker 8: that had happened to us that was and it's always
Speaker 8: been like that.
Speaker 2: It's just it's kind of been this thing that's happened.
Speaker 2: It's never really so even though I grew up in it, man,
Speaker 2: I guess the lost story.
Speaker 5: Did you have kind of like when you say bubble,
Speaker 5: Was it basically like you guys would go and work
Speaker 5: and do your thing, and then when you guys would
Speaker 5: go back to Pennsylvania and you guys would.
Speaker 6: Just kind of keep moving along like normal kids.
Speaker 5: Or were you guys homeschooling or were you still going
Speaker 5: to regular school? Was it just so it was just
Speaker 5: like regular life. And then when you'd work, you'd get go,
Speaker 5: you'd go, but then you just come right back. And
Speaker 5: it wasn't like you were then taking on like the
Speaker 5: like living in New York or LA or whatever. You
Speaker 5: just always just came back. So it was like you
Speaker 5: had two lives. You worked and then you had a
Speaker 5: regular life.
Speaker 4: Literally was two lives. Yeah, and there were times.
Speaker 2: I I wanted to go to.
Speaker 4: Seventh grade, so I just took the whole year off.
Speaker 2: And then wow, then there were times I wanted to
Speaker 2: go to And this was so great about everybody on
Speaker 2: board Me's world.
Speaker 4: Man, how cool.
Speaker 2: The production team they understood the importance of education and
Speaker 2: what we were trying to do, so they rearranged the
Speaker 2: entire schedules for us and allowed us to go.
Speaker 4: Like I was able to go to USC, Rider was
Speaker 4: able to do his thing. We were able to do that.
Speaker 4: That was at that point.
Speaker 2: We were actually kind of like that was like the
Speaker 2: beginning of that, Like most shows were not treating kids
Speaker 2: like that one no, no.
Speaker 6: No, kids were treated like adults. And this is what
Speaker 6: you're doing this, this is.
Speaker 3: Your job, Chad.
Speaker 2: Now, Michael Jacobs, I mean we talk about it on
Speaker 2: Boy Me throwing the characters. The education was very important
Speaker 2: to Michael and to the producers in the show. So yeah,
Speaker 2: we were kind of allowed to do what we wanted
Speaker 2: in that stress. But I think that's another reason why
Speaker 2: A you fit in so well on the cast, but
Speaker 2: also be why you let us into your bubble, is
Speaker 2: because we all kind of had the same upbringing.
Speaker 3: We were all from close, tight knit families.
Speaker 2: We all chose to be actors as opposed to our
Speaker 2: parents dragging us somewhere and being like you're going to
Speaker 2: be in the industry. It was like, even though you
Speaker 2: started at four and Joe started at three or four,
Speaker 2: Joe wanted to do it, oh yeah, and you wanted
Speaker 2: to do it at the beginning, and I wanted to
Speaker 2: do it, and Ryder wanted to do it. Was all
Speaker 2: we didn't have the momagers and the stage manager people
Speaker 2: around it. Like.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like that for us.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's actually crazy thinking about it. I think
Speaker 2: it's all You're right. It's what lended to us being
Speaker 2: able to get so close to us Like, you're right,
Speaker 2: there wasn't one parent that was a problem.
Speaker 5: Nope, really rare, dude, y.
Speaker 4: Was on set ever really causing a problem.
Speaker 1: Ever, I don't want no, well no, it's also at
Speaker 1: the time this has since changed obviously because life is
Speaker 1: what life is. But at the time there were eleven
Speaker 1: cast members on the show and not one divorce.
Speaker 3: Wow, which is so like where you go.
Speaker 2: Also, I mean so rare that it was that it was,
Speaker 2: you know, strange, but we did. I think we found
Speaker 2: kindred spirits in each other to where it that it
Speaker 2: just worked when you came on, and then of course
Speaker 2: they paired us up and it was like and that
Speaker 2: was also you know, you're you're the middle brother, but
Speaker 2: you're one of three brothers. I was one of three brothers.
Speaker 2: I mean, we had a lot in common when they
Speaker 2: when they we both loved music, we both loved TV,
Speaker 2: we both loved entertainment.
Speaker 3: We would just be talking about that kind of stuff
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 2: And they were like, oh, and then when they really
Speaker 2: found kind of the almost odd couple, kind of a
Speaker 2: synergy between the two of us where it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: straight man and crazy guy put them together, works perfectly.
Speaker 2: Then by by season seven, it was just like just
Speaker 2: let them go and do their thing. You know, It's
Speaker 2: like there was the one Boy Meets World in there.
Speaker 1: And I was telling Sabrina before because one of the
Speaker 1: things where she said, oh, did you guys audition for
Speaker 1: this or anything? I said no, because there was rumors
Speaker 1: that you and I were gonna spin off and do
Speaker 1: another show after Boy.
Speaker 6: That would have been great.
Speaker 3: But TGF, like all of TGF went away.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And then I don't know if you remember
Speaker 2: this well, but then.
Speaker 4: Disney then this this is what I heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and from my representation, not like just through
Speaker 2: the sure Disney would actively at least do a pilot
Speaker 2: with us, but they wanted to break away, yes, from
Speaker 2: that movement.
Speaker 3: And Michael, Oh, is that what it was? Okay?
Speaker 2: Of course Michael was like, what do you mean. I
Speaker 2: created these characters, I created this. I'm not just going
Speaker 2: to hand this off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Else, And that started kind of for the end of
Speaker 4: that last season. That's why it was like it.
Speaker 2: Didn't not it didn't end in any way sort of
Speaker 2: like bittersweet, but that's why we didn't get to kind
Speaker 2: of it was like there was a bit of a
Speaker 2: Disney there was friction, right, and.
Speaker 4: It's a bummer.
Speaker 2: I've I mean, I've had that happen and even with
Speaker 2: our own show there was friction. The reason why, believe
Speaker 2: it or not, our brother Loved Sitcom only went two seasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is was weird because it was hugely popular,
Speaker 3: wasn't it.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: We're huge. We became the anchor of A Night is
Speaker 2: because we were again there was an acquisition where they
Speaker 2: were going to move to All one Night and the
Speaker 2: team that we were with was the same team that
Speaker 2: had done Blossom with Joe.
Speaker 4: It was like almost Joe's spin off.
Speaker 2: Sure kind of Blossom, and they had they were big.
Speaker 2: I mean, just Don Rio is this well he was
Speaker 2: Donrio was the he was the show runner.
Speaker 4: They created it.
Speaker 2: But the actual like two execs were this this company
Speaker 2: called uh it was Tony Thomas and Paul Witt.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah sure with Thomas's Hugh they did everything.
Speaker 2: It did legendary I mean the legendary spitcoms, and they
Speaker 2: had like three that were going out. We were one
Speaker 2: of them and we were doing the best. So their
Speaker 2: kind of business plan sort of motto, was well, you
Speaker 2: take your anchor show and you attach your other shows
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 3: It's right.
Speaker 2: The network was like, no, we're only going to take
Speaker 2: Burlely Love, because we're going to condense this into a
Speaker 2: three show night.
Speaker 4: That's it. It's going to be actually a drama.
Speaker 2: Now towards the end, that's when they were moving not
Speaker 2: just totally comedic nights. They wanted to do, well, we'll
Speaker 2: catch the the early crowd to get them laughing and
Speaker 2: then you know.
Speaker 3: And then put on Law and Order. Yeah right, yeah right,
Speaker 3: they were moving.
Speaker 2: To that, and they said no. They were very powerful,
Speaker 2: and it got into a war, and so we paused
Speaker 2: for a year and never and that was it.
Speaker 3: Oh isn't that the worst?
Speaker 2: One has nothing to do with you and you have
Speaker 2: no power and you can't do anything about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we were, I mean we weren't.
Speaker 2: I mean we weren't like you know, I think we were.
Speaker 2: I'd say top thirty, top twenty. But back in the
Speaker 2: day that was he was huge, eighteen million viewers and shit,
Speaker 2: and you know people would killed for that. Now, okay,
Speaker 2: I have two words for you, ladies. Heather Lucklear, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, can we talk about her?
Speaker 4: Amazing?
Speaker 3: She's still amazing, She's was she born without a filter.
Speaker 6: I knew she was going to bring it, but I
Speaker 6: had no idea she.
Speaker 2: Was going to drop this many bombshells.
Speaker 3: Like you think most people think it and don't sate.
Speaker 3: She just says everything I love that about.
Speaker 2: Her, like who she said was the most annoying actor
Speaker 2: on the set of Beelrose Plays.
Speaker 3: And then she says sex club and we're like and
Speaker 3: I was like, that's not what.
Speaker 2: I meant by my innocent question I had for And
Speaker 2: suddenly we're in a sex club in New York with
Speaker 2: people from melwowths.
Speaker 6: But oh my.
Speaker 2: God, Prime Time's Queen of Mean is our guest this week.
Speaker 6: I'm still the place. All right, Well, here we go.
Speaker 3: Buckle up, I get ready.
Speaker 6: We told you Mondays were still a bit.
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you how brotherly love got through it.
Speaker 5: So it was part of sort of a spin off,
Speaker 5: like you said, from Joey from Blossom. Yeah, and so
Speaker 5: then and then you guys just I mean, the fact
Speaker 5: that they took three.
Speaker 6: Brothers was just like so awesome.
Speaker 5: It was like your guys's chemistry obviously was just so
Speaker 5: dynamic and it just shot off the screen and it
Speaker 5: was so easy to just kick back and believe everything
Speaker 5: you guys were going through because you guys.
Speaker 6: Were actually brothers and stuff. How did that How did
Speaker 6: they add you in? Andy in? Like, how was that created?
Speaker 5: Was that something that your brother, your family kind of
Speaker 5: wanted or.
Speaker 4: I would say my family. That was definitely a family move.
Speaker 2: You know, we just all wanted to be kind of
Speaker 2: on the set and be if we were all if
Speaker 2: we're gonna be doing that intense work, we all wanted
Speaker 2: to be doing it together.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So and then the networked like the idea both.
Speaker 2: Andy and I had, you know, kept pulling our weight
Speaker 2: when it comes to our own individual careers and yeah,
Speaker 2: and so it was kind of works for everybody around,
Speaker 2: you know, and we had like we had a really
Speaker 2: great you know, we had the vat of stories because
Speaker 2: we were in the entertainmentustry. We were always compiling all
Speaker 2: these things that happened in real life that we thought
Speaker 2: were pretty relatable. And so that's a lot of that
Speaker 2: stuff in that show, even though it kind of seems
Speaker 2: crazy and it's obviously a sitcom and you know, gone,
Speaker 2: we go for it for the comedy, but a lot
Speaker 2: of those things were very real.
Speaker 4: I was angsty teenager.
Speaker 2: Andy was always in costume, and Joe was always like
Speaker 2: trying to play the father figure.
Speaker 4: But failing that was the basis of the entire so brothers.
Speaker 1: Because you just described my three brothers exactly because I'm Andy,
Speaker 1: Because I'm Andy. Obviously I'm the youngest, My brother Greg
Speaker 1: is you, and my older brother Gary still is the
Speaker 1: only person in my life other than my mom who
Speaker 1: calls me William. We just.
Speaker 6: Literally just talked about.
Speaker 2: This brother Three brothers tend to fall into this dynamic.
Speaker 3: It's so strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, Now, how did how did your relationship
Speaker 2: with Disney start?
Speaker 3: With your family?
Speaker 2: Because you I mean, how many? How many dcoms have
Speaker 2: you guys done?
Speaker 3: Together?
Speaker 2: First of all, we've talked about how we get give
Speaker 2: him as Flowers all the time. I we we did
Speaker 2: our top dcoms of all time and Going to the Mat.
Speaker 2: I thought Andy Andy's performance in Going to the Mat
Speaker 2: it's still one of the best perform as I've ever
Speaker 2: seen on the channel.
Speaker 1: It's so good. So how did you find your relationship
Speaker 1: with Disney? And how many dcoms have you guys done?
Speaker 4: I don't know, that's a good question. How did that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: I think honestly, I think I think Andy kind of
Speaker 2: sort of told that line because Andy ac see it's
Speaker 2: a little bit of a misconception because I was I
Speaker 2: caught that, we caught the tail end of that, and
Speaker 2: we were already on the older age a little bit.
Speaker 4: Joe, I don't know how.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's funny because he has this reputation
Speaker 2: of a Disney thing, but.
Speaker 3: But it's not really. He's not really Disney.
Speaker 4: See he's not really Disney. Yeah, and but Andy, I
Speaker 4: think he was.
Speaker 2: I think it got down to him one other guy
Speaker 2: and Zach Effron for high school musical. Oh wow, Oh
Speaker 2: he would have been great in high school musical.
Speaker 3: And I mean Zach is Zach, but he would have
Speaker 3: been great.
Speaker 2: Zach is amazing, and you know what worked out for that.
Speaker 2: But that was the start. Disney then had their eye
Speaker 2: on shot.
Speaker 4: That really was because.
Speaker 2: You know they I remember this one Disney movie that
Speaker 2: they did called oh Gosh, Horse Sense, And now it's
Speaker 2: kind of where it started with Andy. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: like that was like a joint thing because I wasn't even.
Speaker 4: A part of that.
Speaker 3: I just didn't gonna say are you not in? You're
Speaker 3: not in that.
Speaker 4: I did a cameo just to play fun. I was
Speaker 4: literally like a set one day.
Speaker 2: And they dressed okay, walked through the scenes jumping ship. Right,
Speaker 2: that was the sequel to that one because it did well.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but that was Andy kind of getting like
Speaker 2: a shot and and and then they worked out with
Speaker 2: Joe and then it worked. So then I kind of
Speaker 2: came in and I'm honestly, I think I've only done two?
Speaker 3: Have you really?
Speaker 2: I don't think again, Like it's a little bit of
Speaker 2: a misconception, Andy Toad so much of that weight for
Speaker 2: us because our show wound up being bought by Disney
Speaker 2: even though it wasn't really right.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they think that, Yeah, because I remember before you
Speaker 2: did Boy The first time you and I ever actually
Speaker 2: met and spoke was a couple of years before Boy
Speaker 2: Me's World, where we were all at Disney World for
Speaker 2: some event. You know, Disney used to put on these
Speaker 2: sick events. They used to fly us all in these
Speaker 2: amazing jets, and you'd go to these events and I
Speaker 2: remember getting there and be like, oh, there's Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Boys.
Speaker 2: Why are they going into the nice hotel? And I'm
Speaker 2: going into the place. And as I remember, you guys
Speaker 2: would always have like the suite Frontierland or whatever it
Speaker 2: was called, Well, the Wilderness Lodge. Yeah, they have the
Speaker 2: top floorid of the Lawrence brothers and they'd be like,
Speaker 2: and then you and your nine friends are sharing the buck.
Speaker 3: The Hilton in what was that?
Speaker 4: It's so funny you bring this up because this is
Speaker 4: still talked about in our family to this day. It
Speaker 4: was the Polynesian Hotel. Okay, it was the King Kame Maggie,
Speaker 4: sweet kid, you not.
Speaker 2: And it became like this big thing because it was
Speaker 2: it became like our family vacation and it was grandparents' cousins.
Speaker 2: We've got those iconic family photos from one of the
Speaker 2: New Year's there where they Disney just treated so wonderfully
Speaker 2: on their pet It was like two thousand, actually, I
Speaker 2: think it was like two thousand, was it. Okay, So
Speaker 2: we we just we would always stay there, man, it
Speaker 2: was like that was that was the most important thing.
Speaker 4: We didn't care about getting paid, you didn't care anything
Speaker 4: to stay at the King. Everything else we would handle.
Speaker 5: It helped that there were three of you, so that
Speaker 5: muscle power you had, I was like that.
Speaker 6: Gina girls got to do stuff like that too.
Speaker 5: We got to upgrade a little bit because instead of
Speaker 5: getting three different sweets. We would say, wool room together,
Speaker 5: but give us this, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 5: we kind of we it's using the the power of
Speaker 5: the three like to do that actually was like huge
Speaker 5: and it made sense for your mom obviously, like two
Speaker 5: you know, and then the family and I mean, hey, Grandma, Grandma,
Speaker 5: second cousins.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, the Lawrences are here.
Speaker 2: You're in the King Command Man Street, mister Friedel, You're
Speaker 2: in three oh eight.
Speaker 3: Down the hall, Like, what the hell? Like, really am
Speaker 3: I am?
Speaker 2: I actually under the latter slide, yes, seriously.
Speaker 4: Closing in the ice machine.
Speaker 2: Right after that it was I was Michael Scott from
Speaker 2: the office trying to crash on people's couches.
Speaker 3: Oh god, it was so funny.
Speaker 5: Okay, So we got to get back to the movie
Speaker 5: because I've got still so many questions.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, what do you got you? Speaking of the two.
Speaker 6: Of you, guys, I'm asking both of you will so again.
Speaker 5: I swear I thought I had watched this movie. As
Speaker 5: I start watching it, it turns out I didn't. If
Speaker 5: I had, I didn't remember much of it except for
Speaker 5: the fact that the two of you were in it.
Speaker 5: What I absolutely forgot was that Gabriel Union. Gabriel Union
Speaker 5: was in this movie, right what was going on? And
Speaker 5: your guys's boy brains realizing she was coming on to
Speaker 5: the show, because.
Speaker 3: Well, she wasn't big yet, was she.
Speaker 4: I'm about to say yeah.
Speaker 5: Really was like right at that same age where she
Speaker 5: was doing so much No, okay.
Speaker 2: No, however however, and I was completely like, again, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm wearing bubbles, I'm not like a holiday.
Speaker 4: But she knew she was going to be.
Speaker 6: She did, Oh yeah, okay, I believe.
Speaker 2: Very clear about that. And in fact, there was this
Speaker 2: one moment where and again I'm oblivious, I had no idea,
Speaker 2: she wanted to rehearse and I was like.
Speaker 7: No, I'm good, hold on, hold.
Speaker 4: On behind that all right?
Speaker 2: I was, I don't know at that point in my mind,
Speaker 2: now I can do whatever, and nothing's gonna face with
Speaker 2: that point in my mind. I really loved uh memorizing
Speaker 2: the lines, knowing all the beats, but hated running it
Speaker 2: because it felt like it took all the freshness out
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: We talked and I talked about this.
Speaker 6: We finally got on camera.
Speaker 3: It felt comedy.
Speaker 4: I don't want to kill it. I don't wanna I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 2: These are like really comedy. I just want to They're
Speaker 2: gonna give us multiple takes. Let's just keep it fresh.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: We had I'm gonna we had we had a move
Speaker 4: and shake like I was. But I was like, no, no,
Speaker 4: I'm okay.
Speaker 2: And she got angry and and went and reported me
Speaker 2: the director and uh, the studio. My god, for you
Speaker 2: did not I didn't know that she wait, so she
Speaker 2: you got old the only time in my entire career,
Speaker 2: because usually I'm like the advocate and I'm fighting for
Speaker 2: kids and like, you know, woman's rights, and this is
Speaker 2: the only time in my life.
Speaker 4: Well, I was called.
Speaker 2: Into the office for something I did on set. I
Speaker 2: had no and I had no clue. And I'm only
Speaker 2: saying that I'm like, wait a minute, wait minute, she
Speaker 2: thinks that I was.
Speaker 4: I was, I explained. I was like, no, I want
Speaker 4: to keep it fresh. I was like, you guys know this.
Speaker 2: You guys said, They're like what, we totally get it,
Speaker 2: but we had to. So my point of all this
Speaker 2: story is that she had already had some weight.
Speaker 3: In the area.
Speaker 4: I just didn't know.
Speaker 2: I had no clue, but she was bringing on came
Speaker 2: what two thousand and two, two thousand and three, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and those I think, so she's all that.
Speaker 3: All that kind of stuff was at was posts as
Speaker 3: double hoox sticks.
Speaker 1: I remember the same thing. I remember people saying two
Speaker 1: thousand was bringing on. I remember people saying, Oh, she's
Speaker 1: gonna be she's gonna be huge, like on the set,
Speaker 1: people like she's.
Speaker 4: Everybody kind of knew it.
Speaker 7: Me.
Speaker 3: No, wait, what did they say? I'm sorry, what did
Speaker 3: they say when they called you in? Would she say
Speaker 3: that what he's refusing to rehearse with me?
Speaker 4: Yes? Pretty much? And what was the reason for that?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh god, I just I wanted to
Speaker 4: keep it fresh. I'm like, I was, I was, I
Speaker 4: was embarrassed. I was like, oh god, I've never had
Speaker 4: I never had on any set ever. I I had
Speaker 4: a run in with another actor in particular, I mean
Speaker 4: I had with some directors or some sure you know.
Speaker 2: Pucers were trying to push me to do things I
Speaker 2: didn't want to do. But outside of that, like, I
Speaker 2: never had no.
Speaker 3: You're you're exceptionally easy to work with. You are exceptionally easy, man.
Speaker 6: That's great.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that that was great.
Speaker 2: Geez.
Speaker 5: I mean she's just such a force, like I just
Speaker 5: she's so beautiful and she just has this like aura
Speaker 5: of just confidence and she's so tough and.
Speaker 3: Very much crazy. Do you remember anything about the reception
Speaker 3: of the movie.
Speaker 1: I can't remember anything about like when it aired, or
Speaker 1: we didn't do anything right, did we do any press
Speaker 1: or like I can't remember any.
Speaker 2: Of this, Okay, So yeah, honestly, that was that was
Speaker 2: an era where we didn't have the avenues that we have.
Speaker 2: I can you can you imagine with social media and everything? Yeah,
Speaker 2: slightly different time. Yeah, slightly different time.
Speaker 4: To be honest.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, and this was this was not added
Speaker 2: that ordinary a lot of US actors, you know, unless
Speaker 2: the studio or the network put you on some sort
Speaker 2: of circuit, you were like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, done onto the next.
Speaker 4: Really was thinking about it, and that's the way it
Speaker 4: went down. No, we didn't like lick a Press. I
Speaker 4: mean I didn't even.
Speaker 5: These movies were coming out so often on ABC. Disney
Speaker 5: had the d coms that were coming out every month.
Speaker 4: It was it.
Speaker 5: It just wasn't something that they were like I guess
Speaker 5: I'm assuming they just didn't need to, like they just
Speaker 5: would put it out and the kids were waiting for it,
Speaker 5: and they watched it and they fell in love with it,
Speaker 5: and then I know, I don't.
Speaker 6: I know that they did it a little bit on
Speaker 6: ABC with these kinds of movies.
Speaker 5: They would rerun them, but not like the channel would
Speaker 5: run those d coms like they would be on all day, like.
Speaker 6: It was like a marathon like that everything.
Speaker 1: I think that's the difference, is what. So the ABC
Speaker 1: and Disney would promote the concept or the night as
Speaker 1: opposed to an individual project. So it's like they would
Speaker 1: promote Wonderful World of Disney. They wouldn't promote h double
Speaker 1: hockey sticks, right, you know, so I think that's what
Speaker 1: they were doing. Was it's more like maybe we did
Speaker 1: because I don't remember doing anything like literally, I don't
Speaker 1: remember doing a single thing with you, a single talk show,
Speaker 1: a single interview, which is why nothing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they put a lot, I mean they put
Speaker 5: This did not look like one of their like low
Speaker 5: budget ones that we've seen.
Speaker 6: It did not look like that at all.
Speaker 5: Looked like a very like good sized budget that you
Speaker 5: would think that they would have put that extra effort
Speaker 5: into the actors.
Speaker 6: That they pulled in.
Speaker 5: You guys, you guys this was like the mecca of
Speaker 5: of your guys's like time that like either they just
Speaker 5: didn't feel like they needed to or I'm just not
Speaker 5: sure how that whole marketing you know, department worked at
Speaker 5: that time.
Speaker 6: But I mean it always still worked because obviously.
Speaker 3: Every speakleaw it's just huge.
Speaker 5: So it's it's I mean, you guys know you're going
Speaker 5: to the cons and you're seeing them and like they're
Speaker 5: bringing up this movie, not just the shows. You guys were,
Speaker 5: you know, well known for these movies that you also did.
Speaker 5: I'm sure Woorse sense is brought up to Andy all
Speaker 5: the time, you know, going to the map.
Speaker 6: I'm sure it is.
Speaker 3: I see it every day because I have the on
Speaker 3: on our the wall in my bedroom.
Speaker 2: We have a wall of just all these different random pictures,
Speaker 2: and one of them is you and I with the
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup just dress.
Speaker 3: Dressed as our characters. We're like dressed as our characters
Speaker 3: and everything. Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 4: I think that was like maybe the I found that picture.
Speaker 4: I think that was like the third picture I ever
Speaker 4: put on social media or something.
Speaker 3: Wasn't really everyone I was like, you know this, but
Speaker 3: I was like I.
Speaker 2: Looked at I think it was Instagram. I looked at
Speaker 2: Instagram as like a scrap book. Yeah, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna scrap some photo.
Speaker 4: I came across like this is a perfect photo.
Speaker 3: No, I love that. Uh So, while we have you here,
Speaker 3: what what else are you working on? Is there anything
Speaker 3: you want people to know about?
Speaker 2: I mean, you're still doing your podcast, which has been huge,
Speaker 2: and we're we're still trying to get you know, I've
Speaker 2: been on, but we're still with all our schedules trying
Speaker 2: to get you know, we've we've had it scheduled and
Speaker 2: then we have moved.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna, i know, the pod Meats World crew
Speaker 3: is gonna come over and join you guys. But what
Speaker 3: else are you working on? Anything you can talk about,
Speaker 3: anything you're having fun with?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely we are.
Speaker 2: You know. It's there's this really interesting push now because
Speaker 2: I think people have realized that a lot of the
Speaker 2: advertising dollars are moving over.
Speaker 4: Into the small screen versus the screens.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people under thirty really don't even
Speaker 2: man maybe to watch a specific thing, but they're they're
Speaker 2: mostly on phones and laptops and I have you know,
Speaker 2: it's and all this stuff so there's been this kind
Speaker 2: of push to figure out how to do one ninety
Speaker 2: one minute to ninety second almost kind of like a
Speaker 2: running series. So right now me and my brothers are
Speaker 2: playing with We've shot, like I don't know, more hours
Speaker 2: than we probably should have. I've just been the last
Speaker 2: couple of months has been editing and trying to figure
Speaker 2: out how to do this. So we're going to be
Speaker 2: putting this out, you know, maybe across all platforms. We
Speaker 2: don't know, unless like YouTube, YouTube is gonna like we're
Speaker 2: going this route, We're going Youtube're going. I me, we
Speaker 2: want to hit that like because that seems to be
Speaker 2: where you can monetize successfully, but you can also keep
Speaker 2: people's attention if you're gonna say, everyone's got such a
Speaker 2: short attention span now that.
Speaker 4: You can't go more than you can't go more. I
Speaker 4: mean really, I wish they would post pushed down to thirty.
Speaker 4: That would make it perfect.
Speaker 2: But you know, minute minute a half, that's you know,
Speaker 2: the sweet spot right now, and so everybody's trying to
Speaker 2: figure it out, Like TikTok's trying to do this, do
Speaker 2: this right now, YouTube, like YouTube TV is going to
Speaker 2: have a part, you know, YouTube TV is one of
Speaker 2: the and it's really not trying to do an ad
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 4: I'm not paid by that, I literally am not. But
Speaker 4: YouTube DV is amazing streamers. You get all the normal
Speaker 4: television channels like you would anything else with a CAB
Speaker 4: or anything streaming. It's great and they do everything really well.
Speaker 2: But what they're adding to that is a content creator
Speaker 2: channel well, which is basically it's going to be that
Speaker 2: it's going to be shorts things that people want to
Speaker 2: put it on, and they're gonna open it up to
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be on what the fans like, and
Speaker 2: if your fans move it, it gets picked up.
Speaker 4: The fans don't doesn't get picked up, and that's just
Speaker 4: the way it is. There's no like around it.
Speaker 2: So there's all these different people are trying to figure
Speaker 2: out how to bring in this, yeah into television because
Speaker 2: it's kind of our new TV. So we're looking around
Speaker 2: in that space a lot, and that stuff's going to
Speaker 2: start to come out, and again I'm not sure, because
Speaker 2: we're going to present it to them and see if
Speaker 2: there's like more of an overall deal, or we might
Speaker 2: just go and we figure out, Hey, we're just going
Speaker 2: to go across all platforms with it.
Speaker 3: So shoot, nowadays they're saying nowadays, they're saying, just own
Speaker 3: all your own stuff. Yeah, just own it, hold on
Speaker 3: to it, just put it out.
Speaker 2: That's what we did with the podcast because we you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't initially and we went a different direction, and
Speaker 2: then we realized that the only way for this, for
Speaker 2: us to make this really you know, beneficial.
Speaker 4: For everybody, the fans, us, is for us to do
Speaker 4: it alone. There's just we there's no way we could
Speaker 4: cut it up all the pot and it's too much.
Speaker 5: So yeah, well, tell me about the movie that you
Speaker 5: guys produced as Brothers Merry Christmas. That must have been
Speaker 5: such a huge undertaking, like it should. I mean, it
Speaker 5: looks so fun. You guys are you're just so good
Speaker 5: to be such a good group.
Speaker 4: How was that that was? That was crazy? It was
Speaker 4: a lot of fun but stressful.
Speaker 3: We did it nine days, oh oh my god.
Speaker 2: And the only reason why we have been attempt that
Speaker 2: is because we had previously done one with a lot
Speaker 2: of the crew, a lot of the location and uh,
Speaker 2: and so we.
Speaker 4: Knew we could pull it off.
Speaker 7: But and we you know, self funded it, so we
Speaker 7: had to you know, completely as tight as possible, and
Speaker 7: so I wish we.
Speaker 4: Had thirty days.
Speaker 2: It would have been every comedic beat would have been
Speaker 2: flushed out and everything would have been.
Speaker 4: So much better.
Speaker 2: But hey, that's what we had, and we did what
Speaker 2: we could with it. But it was it was an
Speaker 2: undertaking and it was absolutely freezing the entire time. Like
Speaker 2: I think The Highway was in the thirties, but most
Speaker 2: of the time it was in the teens. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Andy directed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he directed it and pretty much wrote the
Speaker 2: entire thing with his h with our production partner and
Speaker 2: his wife.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 6: Man, do you guys think you'll do more? Is this
Speaker 6: like you're kind of putting it right now today?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, we're developing one right now with a company, which
Speaker 2: I would say, but I probably just shouldn't because it's sure.
Speaker 4: Sure, but we're developing one. It's like an action movie
Speaker 4: that's really cool.
Speaker 6: Oh nice.
Speaker 2: You know I'm just sitting here, you know, I'm just
Speaker 2: sitting here waiting to work with you again about this
Speaker 2: A thousand times.
Speaker 4: Even stress. If you would be a part of it,
Speaker 4: we would love to have you.
Speaker 2: We we've talked about this all the time about how
Speaker 2: if we don't even care about.
Speaker 4: We just want to work with people that we like.
Speaker 3: That's how that's we feel this. I feel the same
Speaker 3: my friends.
Speaker 4: Incredibly talented you are. We would love to have you
Speaker 4: do true True as well, anytime, anytime we would have you.
Speaker 2: The problem is, honestly, one of the truth is because
Speaker 2: we haven't had the proper finances to offer you something
Speaker 2: for coming on set.
Speaker 4: We haven't offered It's like we don't have.
Speaker 3: Any five to seven mil. And I think we'd be fine,
Speaker 3: but it's.
Speaker 4: Coming up because we're not self funding anymore. We're now
Speaker 4: moving into other people funding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you paid to come and work with us.
Speaker 1: I just want to It's one of those things where
Speaker 1: I truly I feel like you do. I just want
Speaker 1: to be on the set on sets again with people
Speaker 1: I like, hanging out with That's it. Money, no money, awesome, script, okay,
Speaker 1: script whatever, Just spending my days with people that I like.
Speaker 1: That's why I love doing these podcasts because it's like
Speaker 1: I get to spend my time with people that I like,
Speaker 1: and so that's all that matters, frankly.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 6: Oh stop it, will I should.
Speaker 3: Say people that I like and Sabrina, which is, which
Speaker 3: is fun too.
Speaker 6: It's just so fair.
Speaker 3: So when we do uh jumping ship, will you come back?
Speaker 3: Of course, let's do it all right? Good, I need
Speaker 3: you guys, We'll come back.
Speaker 5: And we've got to ask this, like overall, will you
Speaker 5: now look back on HG Double Hockey Sticks?
Speaker 6: What are your feelings?
Speaker 5: I mean, did you did you get a chance to
Speaker 5: watch it or anything at all before we did the podcast?
Speaker 5: Did you check out check out the one headshot they
Speaker 5: use over and over again for all of your sports casts.
Speaker 5: It was just one that you were on set for
Speaker 5: all these days and they just got one of those.
Speaker 5: But what are your thoughts on it?
Speaker 6: Looking back?
Speaker 4: Looking back on it?
Speaker 2: I I guess the only thing, I mean, the only
Speaker 2: thing I could say is personally that you know, you
Speaker 2: never realize you never. I never thought that would be
Speaker 2: the last time that we were going to be on
Speaker 2: camera together, maybe possibly ever.
Speaker 3: Well for film, because we did.
Speaker 2: We did, We went, We went after this was in
Speaker 2: between six and seven a boy, so we stayed on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I didn't know if we were going to
Speaker 4: be going on to do other things.
Speaker 3: Right we thought we were.
Speaker 2: I thought we were yes things. So I didn't take
Speaker 2: the time with it that I wish I had. I
Speaker 2: would have even spent more time with Will. I would
Speaker 2: have read the darn script, coned over it and and
Speaker 2: at least gone, how can I do my part the
Speaker 2: best possible to put us in the best light. Sure,
Speaker 2: and didn't do all that, And so looking back, like
Speaker 2: those are things that personally I wish I could have done,
Speaker 2: but so thankful to be a part of it.
Speaker 3: And it was a fun movie.
Speaker 2: It was a fun movie because we were especially going
Speaker 2: back into taking this journey and watching all the Disney
Speaker 2: Channel movies.
Speaker 3: They're not all going to the mat.
Speaker 2: There's there's there's a lot of them that we watch
Speaker 2: and we're like, wow, like how how the did this
Speaker 2: get made?
Speaker 3: And h and Hockey six is not one of those.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's also not going to the mat, but
Speaker 3: it's what. It's what it's But it's good.
Speaker 1: But it's good, it's an it's enjoyable to watch, it's funny.
Speaker 1: We're clearly having a good time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and there's you know, like I was telling, like
Speaker 1: these stories were coming back as we were watching it.
Speaker 1: I completely forgot I told Sabrina. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this scene right here was the best special effects of
Speaker 1: the movie and you'd never know it. Do you remember
Speaker 1: the scene where you're getting your coffee it drops from
Speaker 1: the thing and it was pouring rain and they had
Speaker 1: us under tarps and then they digitally took out the tarps.
Speaker 1: I was like, that was the best special effects of
Speaker 1: the movie.
Speaker 3: You couldn't tell, never ever know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was stories like that that I remember the most.
Speaker 2: Was where it's like how we how we're gonna shoot
Speaker 2: It's like monsoon rain, Like we're gonna hold tarp over you,
Speaker 2: like wait what.
Speaker 3: So yeah? Yeah, and then you almost got me killed.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm gonna remember. So those are the
Speaker 3: those are the joys. That's all good stuff. Well, thank
Speaker 3: you so much for joining us, mister Lawrence. We appreciate it.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, please come back when when we do
Speaker 2: jumping ship, because it's going to be to wait seeing you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and uh break a leg on everything else. And hopefully
Speaker 2: we get to do something in the future because we've
Speaker 2: got to.
Speaker 4: You don't understand. I will still wake up some mornings
Speaker 4: like maybe that's a good sitcom.
Speaker 3: Will we're trying to do is bring the sitcom back.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to bring the sitcom back.
Speaker 2: There's no I mean, because what they've lost because you're
Speaker 2: even seeing it right now, like they're putting their trying
Speaker 2: and they're putting really talented sitcom people together that don't
Speaker 2: have chemistry, and you're like, I know, it's not that
Speaker 2: they're individually it's like when you do that to a
Speaker 2: super team, it's like, not that they're individually so talented.
Speaker 4: They got to play well together exactly.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 4: So if we could get an ensemble like that together,
Speaker 4: to dude, I know, people would tune in to watch it.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I think, well, you know the show that is more
Speaker 1: popular now than it really ever has been, and there's
Speaker 1: never been that version of the show done for our
Speaker 1: age group is Friends in their forties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: The six Because you'd have the people that are divorced,
Speaker 2: you'd have the people that are I mean, it's a
Speaker 2: whole different section of life than when you're in your twenties.
Speaker 2: So here's what I want to say to the networks.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, and here's the thing you remember is
Speaker 2: that you're not putting this show on the air for
Speaker 2: thirties and under.
Speaker 4: Okay, putting it on the air for the same audience.
Speaker 6: Yeah, TV from.
Speaker 2: Back then, and guess what if we do good enough,
Speaker 2: you'll get a second run on streaming when kids finding
Speaker 2: you can get that into your mind and look.
Speaker 3: At it like that. Yeah, it's a double wammen.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, maybe we should make this show.
Speaker 6: Yeah instead of rebuilt like rebooting the shows and bringing them.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: It's also sitcom, old school four camera sitcom is cheaper
Speaker 1: than doing single camera.
Speaker 3: So you can get as good a product for less money. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's a no brainer. But we'll work on that.
Speaker 2: By the way I showed it, I started the entire
Speaker 2: thing in my original h double. This is the jacket
Speaker 2: that I wore in the movie and it is still
Speaker 2: my raincoat to this day. So gosh, thank you for
Speaker 2: joining us. We're gonna in h for for when we
Speaker 2: do Jumping Ship, which will be coming and break a leg.
Speaker 3: On everything in the future.
Speaker 4: Thanks guys.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 3: You talk to you soon, Ye talk to you soon.
Speaker 3: Oh man, he's just awful, you know what I mean by.
Speaker 6: Amazing.
Speaker 5: I love that this was just to find out. This
Speaker 5: was his first time out on his own without Guardian.
Speaker 5: You know, with him that he was able to go
Speaker 5: and like just because that's such a coming of age
Speaker 5: moment and you know, it's like going to college. It's
Speaker 5: like that kind of thing, like you're working and you're
Speaker 5: used to doing it with your parents there and you know,
Speaker 5: his parents seem like they were great, but then you
Speaker 5: have to do it all by yourself and things come
Speaker 5: up and yeah, whatever, you know, especially knowing like he
Speaker 5: had like an issue the first time, like the studio
Speaker 5: called him about something like.
Speaker 6: That, having to like do you want parents and go
Speaker 6: what do I do?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, like what you know, to
Speaker 5: have to kind of sit in it on your own
Speaker 5: and like figure out how to how to navigate that.
Speaker 2: That's really cool, well all for him, all three of
Speaker 2: the Lawrence brothers. You know, they're the type of people
Speaker 2: where they have every excuse to be jerks, and they aren't.
Speaker 3: They aren't. They really are fun, nice people to hang out.
Speaker 3: That's a wonderful family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're they're great. I remember I forgot to
Speaker 2: tell to bring this up, but I just remember that
Speaker 2: when we were shooting. He is such a fan of music,
Speaker 2: like Matt is.
Speaker 1: Their whole family is very musical, but he is such
Speaker 1: a fan of music that that you know, he would
Speaker 1: go to Tower Records every week or the equivalent of
Speaker 1: Tower Records every week and you'd see him walk in
Speaker 1: with a stack of CDs, I mean fifty CDs and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, what are you doing.
Speaker 3: He's like, this is all the new music that came
Speaker 3: out this week. Like he that's what Matt would just
Speaker 3: like this is everything and listen there.
Speaker 2: They're such musical people that they were just there like
Speaker 2: they owned all of music.
Speaker 3: So it was yeah, cool.
Speaker 6: It sounds like he didn't have just the genre either.
Speaker 3: He had like no, he just no, he loved everything
Speaker 3: everything everything.
Speaker 6: I like music, Yeah, kind like music music.
Speaker 3: Music.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Well, thank you mister Lawrence for joining us
Speaker 2: on Magical Rewind in this wonderful park Hopper episode, and
Speaker 2: thank you everyone for sticking with us, uh and.
Speaker 9: For being here when I let everybody know that Mount
Speaker 9: Lawrence almost got me killed, which is wow what he
Speaker 9: did so very large man wanted to beat me into
Speaker 9: a pulp in the middle of downtown Vancouver.
Speaker 2: I will say this, if we fought, I would have
Speaker 2: you Oh yes, yep, but what have somehow hurt myself
Speaker 2: while just standing up and then I would have just
Speaker 2: been pounded into a little squish puddle. So oh to
Speaker 2: whoever that guy was, I apologize we were young, but
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: It is what it is, so you can't be mad.
Speaker 6: It's not your fault.
Speaker 3: You got the girl nice, it wasn't my fault.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, everybody, and don't forget next time
Speaker 1: to join us over on our other feed where we
Speaker 1: are going to be watching twenty twelves Let It Shine,
Speaker 1: which is.
Speaker 2: A musical about so different from Let It Go, which
Speaker 2: is different than Let It Go. But we will, we will,
Speaker 2: we will, we will cross that Let It Shine Bridge
Speaker 2: when we get to it. Because I know nothing of
Speaker 2: this movie other than this at all.
Speaker 6: I am a hip hop version in the director's credits.
Speaker 6: This is one I do not know. So I'm excited
Speaker 6: to see what it's gotta be good. It has to.
Speaker 3: We'll see you next time. Thanks everybody, Bye bye bye
Speaker 4: M