1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Now now the shot has gotten wide, and who do 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: we have all the way to my left right tailor? Oh, okay, 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: got you? You look a lot more full blooded Caucasian. 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: It looks like it looks like the name in my emails. Yeah, 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: that last name is. 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: It's what it's you know? 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: You up there, you up there with the real pretty 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: girl from the w n b A the one whose 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: dad was in the NBA with the funny spelling kais 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: or whatever. That's another uh uh the dude Gary Strusky 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: on Sports Center another yeah, good fake out? 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have more for us? 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: Ah Man, I gotta think I know them when they 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: come up. 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: You know, you know them when you see them. 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: Huh, that's right, you just like you just saw it 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: in tailor, right, Yeah, did you. 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: Know already already gotten hipt at that game? You know. 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: But the first time I admit Ti Jerome, Ty Jerome, 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: Ti Jerome is the new Kaleiel Green on Old HEAs 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: know about Kyleell Green. 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: The right time with Bamani Jones. He is uh, he 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: is a good friend. He is an excellent excellent host, 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: podcast host, radio host, and I want to talk to 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 3: him about all that in just a second. Here, but 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: we were talking right before you came on. We don't 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: think there's anything you're bad at. Are you bad at anything? 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Seriously? Apparently I am bad at knowing whether we were 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: already going, oh that would be. 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: You think I would believe you think I would have 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 3: cut that tailor part out of this podcast get out 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: of here. 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, I've been doing this long enough to know that. 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Uh you know that was that was all fair? 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: Gay? 36 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's stuff I'm not the greatest at. 37 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: I could certainly say that. I guess people would point 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: to the fact that, you know, it's actually funny. I 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: had an early portion of my career that was very 40 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: much defined by all the times that got fired, and 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: then I was killing it for a long time, and 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: then it kind of happened again, and people actually like 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: the killing it part didn't happen. So perhaps and I've 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: killed and all some of that other shit too. But 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: perhaps that is where I am wrong and where I 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: I don't know something. I'm trying my hardest to be 47 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: modest that I'm failing. Mister. 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: Let me say it for you. Your bad at nothing, Okay, 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: I mean I appreciate that. 50 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 5: You got in growing hair maybe now that's that's fair. 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm not so great at that. And is it you? You? 52 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: You create an interesting question that we all ask, is 53 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: it better to go fully gray at thirty two but 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: actually have the hair like we are on the opposite 55 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: sides of the ageing conundrum. 56 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 5: Yes, because it's a great question. I would say, Look, 57 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 5: I mean thirty two, I wasn't fully gray. I would 58 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 5: say forty two, I was probably fully gray. And given 59 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 5: the amount of compliments that I get for my hair color, now, 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 5: ninety percent of the people that compliment me think I 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 5: diet this color and they say it looks great. So 62 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 5: I gotta say it's probably the great thing. 63 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: But but if we're talking about making. 64 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 5: Bald look good, like you've got the good beard to 65 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 5: go with it, the good face to go with it, 66 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 5: which is important, And so yeah, you don't need to 67 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 5: worry about the bald look. 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: It works for a lot of people. 69 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: Well, like, you look super young, right, Like your skincare 70 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: game is nuts. The only thing I would worry about. 71 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: And this is like my world. I don't know so 72 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: much how this goes in your world. But I feel 73 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: like if I had the full on gray, then these 74 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: women would expect me to be tricked, you know what 75 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I would look like a dude at 76 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: an age where your game is to spend a whole 77 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: lot of money all night, and I grew up listening 78 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: to a winger rap music that makes that somewhat impossible. 79 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 5: Well, fortunately I'm already in a relationship and so I 80 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 5: don't really need to worry about that. But I totally 81 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 5: get that. 82 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: You've given up. Yeah, no on camera. 83 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 5: I'm definitely a relationship person. I'm not a single guy. 84 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't like it. 85 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 5: But I got a question for you, and it involves 86 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: some of your other strengths that don't have to do 87 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 5: with sports. Because Lil Wayne is my goat personally. I 88 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 5: think I love them and the Carter six. I'd wanted 89 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: to get your appraisal on it. To me, I don't like, 90 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 5: there's just not that much. 91 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: I love his lyrics. He's such a great lyricists. 92 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 5: He can do it in his sleep, but there's not 93 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 5: as much weight behind his words in this album. But 94 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 5: I just want to get your assessment of it. 95 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I didn't do this to myself because I 96 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: feel like when I hear about a series or a 97 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: franchise getting to part six or numbers that high. My 98 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: immediate thought is police Academy, you know what I mean. 99 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: And this is like nothing about the fact that he 100 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: couldn't come up with the name for the album indicated 101 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: to me that he probably couldn't come up with other stuff. 102 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: The thing that I think has happened to him is 103 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: that as cold as he is, and he could be 104 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: as cold as anybody else, he's never really had a point. 105 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: And listen to somebody in their forties that doesn't have 106 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: a point, no matter how good they are. It's like, yo, man, 107 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: we kind of need you to have a point here, 108 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: and he doesn't really have a point, and so he's 109 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: somewhat subject to this. I'm young forever because he was 110 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: fifteen years old the first time I came across him, 111 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: and it was my In fact, he was younger than 112 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: fifteen the first time I came across him. No, it 113 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: was fifteen, Yeah, it was fifteen, but it was mind blowing. 114 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: It was crazy how good he was, Like he was 115 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: rapping with grown men, not as a child, but as 116 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: they're equal as rapper. And you know, it's asking a 117 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: lot for us to think somebody can keep this going 118 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: for what is almost thirty straight years now. 119 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 5: It also doesn't help that it's coming off of Kendrick's Explosion, 120 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 5: which was very specific and had a very specific point. 121 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: Right, yes it was, And I mean to me, Lil 122 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: Wayne's best album came out twenty years ago. Right, Like, 123 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: we're asking for a lot in other genres, like when 124 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: the Rolling Stones are coming out with albums at a 125 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: point analogous to where Wayne is, so like thirty years 126 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: into it, we wasn't expecting it to be as good 127 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: as their hot as heat, right, That is what we 128 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: expect from rappers whenever they drop. And I feel like 129 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: the rappers that have gotten into their forties and fifties 130 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: and are still putting out heat, it's because they rap 131 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: and sound like they're in their forties and fifties and 132 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: Low Wayne, to me, at least in what I've seen, 133 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: still sound like he could be riding one of them skateboards. 134 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: Still he literally still is. 135 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: He shows it all the time. 136 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: Bumondi, you had a skateboard? Come on? 137 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: Hell no no? 138 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: He Bamoni Jones the right time with Bamani Jones checking 139 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: out wherever you get your podcasts, we were discussing right 140 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 4: before you came on of fan bases and the fact 141 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: that everyone's getting on the Florida Panthers fan base for 142 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 4: jumping on. 143 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: The bandwagon and getting behind this team. 144 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: And I say that all fan bases are bandwagon fan bases, 145 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: with the exception of very few, maybe the Cubs, maybe 146 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: the Cardinals, maybe a couple of NFL teams. 147 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: But bamani, do you care? 148 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: Like, why would you go to a concert if you 149 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: know the concert's going to be bad? Why would you 150 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: spend your money and your time to go see a 151 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: team when you know said team is going to be bad? 152 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: Do you care about that stuff? 153 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: You know? It is a long time Detroit Lions fan. 154 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: Yes'm I've been a day one since twenty one. You 155 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. I got you. I am well 156 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: versed in this topic. In the idea, it kind of 157 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: depends on what the team is. Right. Like when I 158 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: first started doing highly Questionable, Dan used to make the 159 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: joke that at all times the Marlins were like six 160 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: points out of the eight seed, like that, I mean, 161 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: not the Marlins, the Pamples. Like that was there from me, 162 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: just so you know, Okay, okay, did not know that 163 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: the Stude Gotts would always say that at every time 164 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: there's six point out from the eight seed or something 165 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: like that, and nah, that's not really going to get 166 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: it cracking for you, like they had that year in 167 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: ninety six where they was throwing rodents on the ice 168 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But you're right overall, with some 169 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: notable exceptions. Now Miami is a whole different situation because 170 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: there's other stuff to do, and the teams, with the 171 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: exception of the Dolphins, are like historically relatively new, but 172 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: by large you got a core base and then that 173 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: spreads out depending upon how good the team is. Like 174 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: I lived in uh Darryll, North Carolina for ten years, 175 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 1: and I don't know how many people the arena their holes. 176 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: I think they called it the Lenovo Center. Now let's 177 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: just say it holds seventeen thousand people. They can sell 178 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: out seventeen thousand people. If it's seventeen thousand and one, 179 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: they will not ever sell the place out, like they 180 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: got just enough seats for all the people that want 181 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: to show up to that place. That's how it goes. 182 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: When the Hurricanes are good, people get real charged up 183 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: about it because it's fun. When they're bad, you only 184 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: got two options, be mad and scream up talk radio 185 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: and do something else. I think doing something else is 186 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: probably a healthier option. 187 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: You brought up talk radio, and I know you love 188 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: talk radio. I love talk radio. We're old school. I 189 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: miss doing radio, and I'm wondering do you miss it 190 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: at all? 191 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: About I do miss it? And I actually think that 192 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: like this kind of digital existence in a way kind 193 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: of hurts you the longer that you do it. And 194 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: the reason is, I was reading this book that made 195 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: a point about the internet. All I've been reading lately 196 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: is stuff about how terrible the internet is. But the 197 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: point that the book makes is that the theory that 198 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: more communication would bring us closers never been ported by 199 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: actual evidence. In reality, if you think about people's neighborhoods, 200 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: the studies have shown the longer that you live around somebody, 201 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: the more likely you are to dislike them, because there's 202 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: more and more likely that they're going to do something 203 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: that becomes the thing you can't get over. It is 204 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: way harder to get to a place where people will 205 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: forgive you, no matter what that it is for them 206 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: to cut you off right. And so doing the jobs 207 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: that we do, especially like get to face of social 208 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: media and everything else, you talk more and more and more, 209 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: and you're going to reach a point where you say 210 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: something or you've evolved and changed in such ways that 211 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: somebody is not going to like it. Now, it used 212 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: to be that what people were inclined to do under 213 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: those circumstances will perhaps send you an email back in 214 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: the day, the letter to the editor. But in radio 215 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: it was called and people would call up to the 216 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: radio station and maybe they want to get one off 217 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: on you, right because they're upset with whatever it is 218 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: that you've done. They get to say it, or there's 219 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: some other person who serves as a proxy for them, 220 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,119 Speaker 1: They gets to say whatever they mad at In response, 221 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: you either get to take it, you get to act 222 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: a fool about it, or you get to explain what 223 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: it is, and it might bridge the gap between whatever 224 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: happens where we all are now is the longer you 225 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: do this and there's no feedback mechanism. Radio creates the 226 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: possibility of the feedback mechanism doing it like we do it, 227 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: or where you recorded and you put it up. People 228 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: are now more likely just to go bitch about it 229 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: on their own little platform than engage the person, and 230 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: the engagement is tough as the person now because you 231 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: get so much bullshit along the way that you can't 232 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: even tell who a real person is. So it used 233 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: to be like a more human back and forth that 234 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: you would have about it, and that was far more 235 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: conducive as you think about it to building like a 236 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: thriving community around it. And the coolest thing about radio 237 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: to me, and why I enjoyed it over every other medium, 238 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: is that the community that surrounds it was always so 239 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: much more intimate and always like much closer. So yeah, 240 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: I missed When I did daily radio, there were five 241 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: or six people that I knew I would talk to 242 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: every day. They call it in. They were happy to 243 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: talk to me. I was happy to talk to them. 244 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: We would hang out, you know what I mean, Like 245 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: I think about in your life, you ain't got no 246 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: five people that gonna call you every day that you 247 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: want to talk to. 248 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 5: And they can challenge you. They can make you think 249 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 5: in a way that it's like, hey, maybe I didn't 250 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 5: think about that as opposed to just being in your 251 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 5: own person. To Moo's point, they become family, they do. 252 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 5: They become a part of your life. 253 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: I got my man Joe and Riley and people who 254 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: have followed me for a while know about Joe. I 255 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: ain't talked to Joe in years. I've been trying to 256 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: talk to Joe. I think Joe change's number, whatever it is. 257 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of messed me up. Like I just moved. 258 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: And so I got this big thing where Joe lost 259 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: the bet and he had to come stand in front 260 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: of the radio station holding a sign and that said 261 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: I lost the bet to Bobonti Jones Radio that classic. 262 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: I still have that sign, right, I've had it with 263 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: me now for over fifteen years. It's made it with 264 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: me everywhere, and I've gone and I see that. I'm like, damn, 265 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: but wonder what Joe's up to. You know, Joe was 266 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: a talk radio caller, like you guys know about my 267 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: man Mike for example. 268 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but body, I was just looking up 269 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: Mike at my phone book. I still have his number. 270 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, dude, Mike, Like I saw Mike. I 271 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: did a talk in Chicago last year. Well, I was 272 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: on a panel at the University of Chicago and Mike 273 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: pulled up for that, you know what I mean, Like, 274 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him. I need to call Mike 275 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: back because Mike ghet me not that long ago because 276 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: he wanted to talk about Steven A. Smith. 277 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: But you know, like you don't get that anywhere other 278 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: than Radio BO. 279 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: Are these NBA Finals and the interest level in them 280 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 5: an indication that basically Kevin Durant was right that people 281 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 5: don't actually like basketball or are we just not as 282 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 5: familiar with these two teams? 283 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that this is a paradigm shift. And 284 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I cannot think of an NBA Finals where the top 285 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: star that was in the finals had lower wattage than 286 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: the current version of Shae Yodas Alexander Crazy pass right now. 287 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: If he's the MVP in the winn this championship and 288 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: he comes out and he starts killing it again next year, 289 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: it's a building action. And I don't think you'll have 290 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: the same issue with what we're talking about. But I 291 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: do think that the league has historically been built around stars, 292 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: and that's appropriate because what a star basketball player is 293 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: means something completely different. But this is different and now 294 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: teams in the way the CBA has gone, you're not 295 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: going to necessarily have high wided stardom at the top 296 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: of the marquee in the way that you used to. 297 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: And so I don't know exactly how the league recovers 298 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: on that, but I do think they've done everything they 299 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: can to make every game feel not like a big deal, 300 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: and I think it's in the small pieces. And I 301 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: know a lot of people think that when it comes 302 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: to the NBA that even people who like it are 303 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: inclined toward complaints. But you clearly never talked to hockey 304 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: year baseball fans, right like that is what they do. 305 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: NFL fans are the only people that pledge fealty to 306 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: the league in that way. But to me, for example, 307 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: go into this, you can wear any color jersey at 308 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: any time. It looks like an AAU tournament. The coaches 309 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: in the quarter zips because they went to the bubble 310 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: and it didn't make any sense to dress up, and 311 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: then you acting like rest like you acting like it 312 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: was forever the bubble, Like just because I'm working at home, 313 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: don't mean you're supposed to look like you at home. Again, 314 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: it looks like an AAU tournament. So then when people 315 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: start complaining, why is there not a trophy decal on 316 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: the floor, it's not specifically about the Trophy decal, but 317 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: there's no NBA Finals decal on the floor, there's no 318 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: long intro on the broadcast, there's no discussion of this 319 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: as though it's an event larger than just watching a 320 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: basketball game. And so I talk about this on Wednesday 321 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: episode of The Right Time, where I don't think that 322 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: people get that you have to give them queue sometime, 323 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: and if you act like it's not a big deal, 324 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: they're not gonna think it's a big deal. And to me, 325 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: where we have a fundamental problem is you can't sports 326 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: is entertaining. It is not entertain mint. That is a 327 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: huge distinction and important because if you look at what 328 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: entertainmentt is in this day and age, it's just something 329 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: to occupy your time, just something to stop you from 330 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: change to the channel. This works because it's invigorating. This 331 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: works because it hits you in your heart like this. 332 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: This works because it's moving, and so trying to be 333 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: like the things you compete with misunderstands the reason why 334 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: you can compete in the first place. And so that 335 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: is the biggest reason why I think that it feels 336 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: the way it does is because the league is telling 337 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: us that this really isn't that big of a deal 338 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: and they need to leave the NFL don't have that problem. 339 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 5: NFL on the actual basketball now and forcing us to 340 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 5: have to like it in order to watch instead of 341 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 5: giving us the pomp and circumstance. 342 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: But he's right about the NFL. They create an urgency 343 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: that the NBA, no other sports really does well. 344 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: The NBA used to be good at it, NBC used 345 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 5: to be good at it, and they'll probably be good 346 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 5: at it again. 347 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: Bo. 348 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 5: But I'm curious you mentioned sort of the wattage on 349 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 5: SGA rising if he continues to kill it past this year. 350 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 5: You really think that's the case, because I feel like 351 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 5: a lot of people just aesthetically don't love his game, 352 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 5: and so that if he keeps killing it, he'll become 353 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 5: more of a villain an anti hero than somebody that everybody. 354 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: He is the best player we don't want. 355 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but heat is still heat. Yeah, you know, 356 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: like like that'll give us, that'll give us some heat. 357 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: Because my thing is he too good to be acting 358 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: like that, right, like you do, he too good to 359 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: be acting like that, And so I think that it 360 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: may get to a place where people are resentful of 361 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: this team and what's gonna happen with this team, which 362 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: will be fun. Is that I feel like I think 363 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: basketball is best as a dynasty saga, and I feel 364 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: like these the CBA changes has made it more difficult 365 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: to keep a team together, and so you're not going 366 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: to have this year after year these teams collide and 367 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: it's the back and forth, right that's going to go 368 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: away in all likelihood? Oklahoma City is this good with 369 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: thirteen first round picks in the next six years with 370 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: a twenty three year old chet Holgren Shaek knows, Alexander, 371 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: I want to say it's twenty six, twenty seven, something 372 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: like that. They're gonna be good for a really long 373 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: time and you're not gonna be able to ignore them 374 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: if they go to the finals like three times in 375 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: four years. 376 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: If he play if SGA played in La Boston, New York, 377 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 3: would we view him differently. 378 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you kind of have no other choice because 379 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: see what happened to him in New York. Jalen Brunts 380 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: is becoming an interesting example of this because a lot 381 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: of the criticisms of SGA and him out here acting 382 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: like it is wrastling and flopping around like a fish. 383 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: Right they go in the other direction. Once you become 384 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: whatever you are for the Knicks, you now become the 385 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: apple of a Knicks fans eye. And then Knicks fans 386 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: talk about it, and then it becomes larger because it 387 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: then becomes about your relationship with the Knicks fans who 388 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: are closer to you, and then what kind of argument 389 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: you have there. And then it goes and it bounces, 390 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: and it's there. If Shae goes out is and to 391 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: play for the Clippers, it doesn't happen. If he plays 392 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: for the Lakers, maybe it does again because it becomes 393 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: about your proximity to those Lakers fans. If he plays 394 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: for the Celtics, it becomes about your proximity to those 395 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: people who are around you. With Oklahoma City, look man, 396 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook became stars, big stars in Oklahoma City. 397 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: So it's not too me just about the location. I 398 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: just don't think this team, this I think is interesting. 399 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this in real time, so forgive me 400 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: if I'm rampling. There was a building action with the Durant, 401 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: Harden Westbrook thunder right like they got in in twenty ten. 402 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: They had a surprising run in twenty eleven. Where they 403 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: made the conference finals. I want to say, then they 404 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: got to the NBA Finals in twenty twelve. Then they 405 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: had kind of some of their hard looker along the way. 406 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: Westbrook got hurt in twenty thirteen conference finals twenty fourteen, 407 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: Durant gets hurt in twenty fifteen Conference finals in twenty sixteen, 408 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: but they had this long run and that year where 409 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: they were fresh and they were on the rise. This 410 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: particular Thunder team never had that because they were sixty 411 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: win team last year, sixty win team this year. And 412 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: I want to say, I don't even think they made 413 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs or something like that the year before. You 414 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, we have not had a 415 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: chance to get to know them, but I think we 416 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: will get to know them in short order. 417 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: But aesthetics and style of play are important. 418 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 3: When Westbrook and Durant got to Oklahoma City, we've never 419 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: seen anything like Kevin Durant and we've never seen anything. 420 00:18:58,560 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: Like Russell Westbrook. 421 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: We've seen like those guys were unique talents, and I'm 422 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: not saying he's not, but they were more aesthetically pleasing. 423 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: There was something that we've never seen before. 424 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: My money, they are more exciting like SGA can get 425 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: to his spots like he is a in a way, 426 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: almost like a slender Kawhi Leonard on offense right, like 427 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: incredibly effective. It can get to the shots he wants, 428 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: but not necessarily like the most fun to watch. But 429 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: I ask you how many guys in the NBA are 430 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: individually that much fun to watch? Like all these kids 431 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: growing up with trainers has kind of taken that away, 432 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: where how many of them are really? Like man, I 433 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: just love watching his game. Like the example I used 434 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: on my show was Rod Strickland. Rod Strickland's not a 435 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, but you remember with Rod strich love 436 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: watching Rod Strickland play. It was just it just had 437 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: that looseness to it. Kyrie is like the last Mohican 438 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: in that regard. 439 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: I think John Madfather. I think John Morant would be 440 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: a guy for me. 441 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: Yes, Anthony Edwards a little less, I think, but you're 442 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: right John Moran, Yeah, because John Morant's got like the 443 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: last playground game. It feels like that's left. 444 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: I don't think SGA gets enough credit for when he 445 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 5: does drop guys because it ends up just being a 446 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 5: mid range jumper as opposed to you know, a deep 447 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 5: three throw it down. 448 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think people realize what in by the 449 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: advanced numbers and everything else. The season that he just 450 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: put up was unreal. 451 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 5: Like, I just want to throw this in there because 452 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 5: people are giving me shit for taking this year's SGA 453 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 5: over six Dwayne Wade, and it's mind boggling. One was 454 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 5: an MVP. 455 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: Well, sometimes you have to read throughom no, no, no, no, 456 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: where you are. I think it's an interesting cump though, 457 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: because like regular season is SGA. It's not even close, right, 458 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: Like like that was that was an all time great 459 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: regular season that he put up. The thing with Wade 460 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: in the postseason was he forced the issue in his 461 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: game was it was so visceral. In watching it, you 462 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: could say the rest gave him all the calls, but 463 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: he made the rest give them the calls. It felt 464 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: like there was nothing you can do. There's something about 465 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: Shade that doesn't feel like there's nothing you can do. 466 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: But clearly there's nothing you can do, because can't nobody 467 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: do nothing exactly? 468 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: Bamani, are you laughing at the New York Knicks? 469 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure you are, yo, I'm okay. So it's lost story. 470 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: But because it's some tech stuff. We have to record 471 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: our Wednesday episodes at the right time on Tuesday, and 472 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: I did this long thing about I still think the 473 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd thing has legs, but about how that's going 474 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: to be a thing. And then this morning Shams gets 475 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: on the Internet and tells people that the MAVs told 476 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd no, and I wish he'd done that yesterday, 477 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like, it's hard for 478 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: me to laugh at the Knicks when they out here 479 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,239 Speaker 1: messing with my show. I like that. I can't. I 480 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: can't ignore that part, but I do. What happened seemed 481 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: very clear, regardless of whether or not you think this 482 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: is what should have happened. Jim Dolan came downstairs and 483 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: fired the coach. They were not ready to hire an 484 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: another coach, but he fired the coach. Now, maybe he 485 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: thought that they could get Jason Kidd, which, by the way, 486 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: I think was a reasonable hypothesis. But if they don't 487 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: get Jason Kidd, I have no idea what they're going 488 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: to do, because what will happen if they can't get 489 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd is they will, without question higher or worse 490 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: coach than the one they just fired. And I would 491 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: not take that job because it's going to be no 492 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: fun coaching that team next year. The people expect something now, right. 493 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: The people here think this team is supposed to be good. 494 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: Yes, they expect someone better. 495 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: Fundamental flaw, yes. 496 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 3: They expect someone better. They expect a bigger name and 497 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 3: a better coach than Tom Thiberdo. They ain't gonna find one. 498 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 5: The only way I can see that actually working out 499 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 5: is a similar situation to something in Golden State where 500 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 5: you find a coach and Steve Kerr who comes in 501 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 5: sort of attaches himself to the star. In this case, 502 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 5: it would be Jalen Brunson builds an offense that really 503 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 5: really highlights that star along with you know, making sure 504 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 5: that it can it can win in the playoffs and 505 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 5: having that attachment to Brunson really being the key there 506 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 5: because obviously Jalen Brunson is the fabric of the Knicks. 507 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: Well, they already have a coach that is very attached 508 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: to there you go. 509 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 5: So if they don't get their initial options they are 510 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 5: and say, hey. 511 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: I I I've yet to see one report to indicate 512 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: how everybody loves having Jalen Brunce's daddy around you are 513 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: not going to convince me that people are happy about that. 514 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: It's impossible. It is preposterous the idea that he has 515 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: that job and they're under that under those circumstances. The 516 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: real issue is Jalen Brunsid and Carl Towns. I do 517 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: not think can play together because you can't have two 518 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: traffic cones and they're and they're both cones, and you're 519 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: going to probably need to move one of them, which 520 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: means you have to move Towns. But Towns is one 521 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: of those weird players where Minnesota just went through this 522 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: and even though it worked out, okay, you're not going 523 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: to get a better player back for him. Now, maybe 524 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: you make this movie againt Kevin Durant, and I think 525 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: you would effectively get a better player than him, But 526 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: you're not going to get a better player than Towns. 527 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: I also don't think you can really win with him, 528 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: Like I felt like the Timberwolves and the Knicks trading 529 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: Randall for Towns traded two guys that each side decided 530 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: you can't really win with. It's fair. 531 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 5: You'd have a much better shot at Kevin Durant if 532 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 5: you kept Tom Thibodeau, though he's not going to go 533 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 5: to some unstable organization. 534 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: Now, I mean, it's not like he's above it. He 535 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: he's in this unstable organization. He went to another unstable 536 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: organization where he went with the unstabilizer himself as his 537 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: road dog team. Likeos. 538 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 3: Maybe he left the two best organizations in the NBA. 539 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: Hey man, some people like him crazy. You know what 540 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's just what it is. 541 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: Uh bo. 542 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: The recent ruling with the NC double A and schools 543 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: being able to start paying their athletes directly, Now, how 544 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: is college sports get at you because of this? 545 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: Let's be honest here, it's gonna be a little less charming. 546 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, nobody likes a nineteen year old with 547 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: a pocket full of money. You can't find the example 548 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: of where that makes anybody feel good. It's not that 549 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: to me. The big change already happened, and the big 550 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: change was once you got rid of the waiting period 551 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: before you could transfer, where now it became just I 552 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: mean free agency, but with no safeguards whatsoever. That part 553 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: has already happened. So like giving the guys the money 554 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: and we'll see, I don't know how much that part 555 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: is really going to affect it. But the hard part 556 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: for me is I don't ever know who played for 557 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: anybody at a given point in time, and I do 558 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: think that losing that continuity matters, especially as time has 559 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: gone on and the coaches have become less interesting and 560 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: less important, you know what I mean. So like when 561 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: we had big personality coaches, I knew what I was 562 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: tuning in to watch. I don't really know that so 563 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: much anymore. 564 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 3: No, it's fair, players are The transfer portal is the 565 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 3: worst thing that happened to college sports. So the right 566 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 3: time with Bomani Joanes check it out wherever you get 567 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: your podcast. I know you got to run here, but 568 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: we appreciate the time. As Zoey's I owe you a 569 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 3: visit on your podcast anytime. 570 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: My friend, Hey man, brother, you doing a good job here, man, 571 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: Like this is the whole professional operation that you got going. 572 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: You got a background, were rotating phonographs, stuff like that. 573 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, professional over here, And people 574 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 3: are surprised, Bamani, I respond to them, do you know 575 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: who the fuck I am? 576 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 577 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. You 578 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: got a nice Neapolitan ice cream set up with the 579 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: talent today. 580 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: You feel me like, thank you, Bamani. 581 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate I see the vision, big Dog, I see it. 582 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: I appreciate you inviting me all. 583 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: Except for Taylor. 584 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: I've been rattled since that comment. 585 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: All Right, the right time with Bomani Joe. Check it out. 586 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: He is the best. We'll talk to you soon, my friend. 587 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, brother, be good, all right man,