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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Third hour. Clay and Buck kicks off right now, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us year on this Friday. And

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Speaker 2: I had mentioned this, I think actually even yesterday on

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Speaker 2: the show, but the situation not just at the border,

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Speaker 2: but for a lot of cities across the country because

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Speaker 2: of the wide open borders, continues to be well, let's

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Speaker 2: just say, very challenging for some of these Democrat authorities

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Speaker 2: out there, people who in other times, at other places

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Speaker 2: would indicate no doubt that they would want as many

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrants as possible, because what is central to the

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Speaker 2: Democrat narrative is that illegal immigrants are just as beneficial

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Speaker 2: to the economy and just as legally deserving of everything, healthcare,

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Speaker 2: and school as legal immigrants. This is what Democrats now believe.

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Speaker 2: This essential to the day Democrat Party view of day

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Speaker 2: to day life in America. One of the challenges that

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Speaker 2: you come across when you're trying to have a conversation

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Speaker 2: about illegal immigration in America today is that the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 2: the left wing media that supports and amplifies all their messages,

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Speaker 2: they will constantly talk about this but never never admit

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Speaker 2: that there's any downside whatsoever to unrestricted illegal immigration in

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Speaker 2: the United States, which is what we have right now.

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Speaker 2: And so one of the realities that has now unfolded

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Speaker 2: is that some of these cities that have taken these

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Speaker 2: individuals in from the border who have entered illegally and

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Speaker 2: are now on some sort of internal parole, effectively before

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Speaker 2: The whole thing is just is really a scam. The

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Speaker 2: idea of being that they're supposed to get status through asylum,

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Speaker 2: but they're not going to get asylum status because not

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Speaker 2: asylum seekers. They're people who have skipped the legal immigration

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Speaker 2: process entirely and just want to stay in America. And

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Speaker 2: we should always remember and Clay, I'm sure you remember

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Speaker 2: this in the last Democrat debate in twenty twenty, I

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Speaker 2: should say the last election in the first Democrat debate,

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Speaker 2: when they said, on a stage full of Democrats that

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Speaker 2: included I believe Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, should illegal

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Speaker 2: immigrants get taxpayer funded healthcare? They all raise their hands.

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Speaker 2: So you come to the country illegally or entitled the

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Speaker 2: free health care and that's just the way it is

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Speaker 2: with the Democrats. There are costs that are associated with this,

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Speaker 2: There are downsides, there are realities, economic realities first and

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Speaker 2: seeing it play out. Eric Adams, the mayor of New

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Speaker 2: his city. Play two.

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Speaker 3: Do we stay this several months ago that we have

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Speaker 3: reached full capacity, and that full capacity was verbalized. Now

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Speaker 3: New York is just going to be visually actualized. We're

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Speaker 3: going to see how much of our cup has basically

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Speaker 3: and we need help.

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Speaker 2: They've taken in I don't know at this point, let's

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Speaker 2: say between sixty and one hundred thousand illegals in New

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Speaker 2: York City something like that, newly arrived and clay. The

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Speaker 2: New York City has eight point five million people roughly

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Speaker 2: now it's probably eight point six million. But beyond that,

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Speaker 2: they're spending more money on these illegal immigrants. I think

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Speaker 2: it's one point eight billion that they're expected to spend

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Speaker 2: on their care, housing, food, everything else. Healthcare. They're spending

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Speaker 2: more money on illegal immigrants in New York City than

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Speaker 2: they are on the FDNY, on the fire department. That's

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Speaker 2: wild already in one year. That's where we are.

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Speaker 4: And I just keep to me, the southern border situation

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Speaker 4: is a function of the incentives. And if you are

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Speaker 4: poor in Latin America, or if you're poor anywhere else

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Speaker 4: imagine what those phone calls are like back home. Because

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Speaker 4: it really is the land of milk and honey. Most

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Speaker 4: people who are coming into the United States rapidly have

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Speaker 4: a better quality of life here than they do where

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Speaker 4: they came from, even before they get in any way

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Speaker 2: Just think about this.

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Speaker 4: If if I told you right now, everybody out there listening,

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Speaker 4: if I told you you could make ten times the

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Speaker 4: that's the incentive structure that we are creating. And so

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Speaker 4: what's happening is the incentives are so incredible that you

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Speaker 4: saying we welcome you, because it's Democrat orthodoxy that you

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Speaker 2: And actually specifically illegal immigrants. To be clear, illegal immigrants

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Speaker 2: That is what Democrats believe.

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Speaker 4: And now they finally are recognizing that they don't have

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Speaker 4: the resources to be the so called sanctuary cities and

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Speaker 4: that there are consequences associated with you and me and

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Speaker 4: every single taxpayer out there.

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Speaker 2: This is why Buck, I know you left New York City, but.

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Speaker 4: This is why if I made my salary right now

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Speaker 4: and I lived in California, or I lived in Illinois,

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Speaker 4: woke up, I would be furious that I am paying

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Speaker 4: fifteen percent basically of what I make for the privilege

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Speaker 4: states that I know I agree with their leadership more

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Speaker 4: on a political basis, and make fifteen percent more buck.

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Speaker 4: This is I don't think we talk enough about the

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Speaker 4: degree to which New York, California, and Illinois, in particular

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Speaker 4: basically Chicago, New York City, La San Francisco, they have

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Speaker 2: Kind of way.

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Speaker 4: And the more money you make those guys and girls,

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Speaker 4: the angrier I think they're getting at the dysfunction that

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Speaker 2: Why would you stay?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean unless you have like some physical

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Speaker 4: in those states. It boggles my mind that anyone would

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Speaker 4: the most beautiful place almost in the world, Southern California.

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Speaker 4: But people are finally just saying I can't do it anymore.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Clay, it's we didn't get to this yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I meant to mention it. I'll mention it. Today you're

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Speaker 2: same things, the same kind of expenses, the same decisions

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Speaker 2: by the political class are being made in DC, Chicago, La,

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Speaker 2: All the same kinds of calculations being made in these

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Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter riots, protests, whatever depends on which one

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Speaker 2: it's like a kettle, you know, they say it because

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Speaker 2: It was idiotic. What was going on in the streets

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Speaker 2: They made everything worse. They ruined businesses, they broke in

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Speaker 2: they were in custody for an hour too long or something.

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Speaker 2: They all should have been prosecuted for every single infraction committed. Instead,

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Speaker 4: This is why I think if we had an honest media,

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Speaker 4: which we fundamentally do not, there would be a massive

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Speaker 4: examination of the money being spent on January sixth prosecutions,

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Speaker 4: in particular in Washington, DC, Buck and all of the

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Speaker 4: felonies being dropped in DC. The only people getting prosecuted

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Speaker 4: to the fullest extent of the law. In all of

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Speaker 4: the District of Columbia, our nation's capital, are people who

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Speaker 4: the crime rate, not surprisingly, is skyrocketed in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 4: Actual violent crime, not January sixth, mostly mostly people who

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Speaker 4: did not create massive violent acts. And that's what Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 4: you're talking about the BLM protests. She raised money to

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Speaker 2: He raised a lot of money for that issue, and

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Speaker 2: It is true. Nothing was done for their defense. For

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Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty twenty two. Yeah, I mean I donated money

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Speaker 2: What you've seen is that somehow the Democrats, the same

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Speaker 2: so many institutions because of their the Soros backed Prosecutor Plan,

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Speaker 2: It's not all just the Soros prosecutors, but there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of them, but similar minded left wing activists. What

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Speaker 2: you've seen is that they punish lack of obedience to

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Speaker 2: that's how they use the power they are given as

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Speaker 2: to keep us safe. You're in much better shape going

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Speaker 2: before a prosecutor saying, you know that if you stab

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Speaker 2: or anything else, the maximum for those people. But the

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Speaker 2: don't want to punish them too harshly. Maybe we give

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Speaker 2: them another chance. Maybe it's a rest number one hundred,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to wait till the rest number one

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Speaker 1: Sexton Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 1: for ten million in bribes. How much attention this was

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Speaker 2: Ah, it was pretty bad with Hillary. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 4: Million dollars paid to get a Ukrainian prosecutor fired. And

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Speaker 2: this to you, Clay. We can ask some of our

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Speaker 4: In the nineties when the Washington Post broke the story

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They What I was comparing really was actually more

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Speaker 4: My point on it, though, is the Washington Post covered

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Speaker 2: Remember a big, a big part of this, Clay was Drudge.

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Speaker 2: So that's all true. But even since the Hillary email,

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Speaker 2: want the notoriety. Right, So it's not always like we're

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Speaker 2: speaking truth to power. It's if we don't do what

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Speaker 2: the New York Post is going to do it, So

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Speaker 2: we might just try to get first, right, Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get scooped. So there's there's some layers of

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Speaker 2: complexity in this. But also the Bill Clinton stuff, the

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Speaker 2: media could defend him. They were defending and oh it

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Speaker 2: was just sex or oh, you know whatever. There was

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Speaker 2: a a defense component of the coverage that was built

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Speaker 2: in clay. Does that eyone want to take a shot at. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So they paid Joe Biden through a hunter ten million

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Speaker 2: dollars to fire prosecutors and corruption investigations abroad. God knows

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Speaker 2: what they were paid to do for China, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? Who wants to take that one up?

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Speaker 2: Like there's no you know? So I think that's why

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Speaker 2: you get the coverage versus no coverage. Is also because

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Speaker 2: the defense versus the indefensible it is.

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Speaker 4: I just I think it's emblematic, and I argue this

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Speaker 4: in the book. I think it's emblematic of how the

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Speaker 4: business now has to be run because the New York

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Speaker 4: Times and the Washington Post in particular are subscription based businesses. Now,

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Speaker 4: who's subscribed? Just for everybody out there listening, think about

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Speaker 4: who subscribes It is the most died in the wall

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Speaker 4: Left wing liberals. Now I subscribe to BUK.

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Speaker 2: I subscribe to the New York Times, so I can

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Speaker 2: read the enemy's journal every day. That's right.

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Speaker 4: So, but so there are exceptions. Some of you probably

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Speaker 4: also subscribe to the New York Times to watch the post.

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Speaker 4: But in general, you are a die hard fanatic. What

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Speaker 4: we saw during the Trump administration was the number of

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Speaker 4: subscribers they had surged. And I guarantee you, when they

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Speaker 4: look at the analytics, Buck, and they're looking at the analytics,

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Speaker 4: because don't forget their a business, they look at the analytics,

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Speaker 4: and every time they wrote something awful about Trump, their

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Speaker 4: subscribers went up. Yeah, of course, yeah it works for

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Speaker 4: once you and I've seen this business model, Buck, Do

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Speaker 4: you know what we're originally the subscription most successful subscription

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Speaker 4: model of all time on the Internet is other than pornography.

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Speaker 2: Let's leave that. Let's leave that aside.

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Speaker 4: It's sports because all of these individual sports teams have

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Speaker 4: die hard fan bases which will pay monthly subscriptions to

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Speaker 4: these message boards that cover recruiting college athletics in particular,

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Speaker 4: you know who never breaks a negative story about the

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Speaker 4: home team the subscription of that team, right, I'm a

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Speaker 4: University of Tennessee fan. The fan site that I subscribe

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Speaker 4: to never has broken a negative story about the University

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Speaker 4: of Tennessee because if you're a fan of the team,

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Speaker 4: you don't want to read negative stories.

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Speaker 2: There is no expectation of journalism anymore, which the Washington Post.

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Speaker 2: This is the key, Yeah, from the Washington Post. In

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Speaker 2: your times, there's no expectation of it. It is it

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Speaker 2: is fan site for liberals. That's what actually, that's that's

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Speaker 2: the mission set. And so that's why it doesn't even matter.

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Speaker 2: And no matter how obtuse and how absurd and how

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Speaker 2: left wing the New York Times gets, it actually only

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Speaker 2: benefits their business model, which then also leads to the

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Speaker 2: increasingly Bolshevik approach within their newsroom to we're not they're activists,

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Speaker 2: They're not journalists. There is no audentation of journalism anymore.

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Speaker 4: Everyone is missing the business imperative, the business impact.

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Speaker 2: I don't hear it.

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Speaker 4: I mean this is important I think for everybody out

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Speaker 4: there to understand the business imperative will drive editorial and

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Speaker 4: if you are too critical. If The New York Times

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Speaker 4: brought down Joe Biden, they would lose subscribers and their

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Speaker 4: business at its very foundational level would be threatened to

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Speaker 4: the core. Same thing as true with the Washington Post

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Speaker 4: back when they My argument would be back when they

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Speaker 4: broke the story about Bill Clinton and the Intern, whether

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Speaker 4: you think it was serious enough or not, you hit

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Speaker 4: on it, Buck, it's a scoop. But also, what was

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Speaker 4: the business model in nineteen ninety seven and ninety eight.

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Speaker 4: It was to get as many people as possible to

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Speaker 4: look at the ads in the Washington Post. You want

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Speaker 4: it as big of an audience as possible, so you

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Speaker 4: could charge the most for ads, and that's a sexy

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Speaker 4: story that people would buy and they would read. The

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Speaker 4: business imperative changed from serve the diehard to want to

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Speaker 4: hear that Republicans are evil. That's the new business imperative.

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Speaker 2: Clay the Drudge Report, I brought this up. Yeah, in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight broke the news that Bill Clinton and

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Speaker 2: Monica Lewinsky had an affair, and Newsweek knew about it

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Speaker 2: and was sitting on it. Was that isakov I would

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Speaker 2: I have seen the first writer who wrote it. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to remember, but I'm just this is when things

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Speaker 2: started to change. Yeah, it was when the It was

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Speaker 2: when a site like Drudge could say, hey, guys, they

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Speaker 2: know about what the sitting president is doing and it's

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Speaker 2: a huge story and they won't even write it. So

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Speaker 2: that's that's a pretty big Now. That was when Newsweek

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Speaker 2: newsweek now was, you know, it's a it's a shadow

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Speaker 2: of what it was when Newsweek was a huge deal.

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Speaker 4: Newsweek was a big deal in nineteen ninety Time magazine

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Speaker 4: was a big deal. That was those those magazines on

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Speaker 4: the news stands on a weekly basis made money hand

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Speaker 4: over fist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So again when you're talking about how they covered

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Speaker 2: that story, yeah, they covered it. They covered it because

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Speaker 2: people were saying that they weren't covering and they knew

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Speaker 2: about it. But let's take some of your calls here

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Speaker 2: to close this out. Eight hundred two eighty two to

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in closing fifteen hours of Clay and Buck

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Speaker 4: this week. Look forward to hanging out with you guys

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Speaker 4: on Monday, when who knows what the news story will

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Speaker 4: be there. I wanted to update you we had a

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Speaker 4: discussion earlier in this program about whether there should be

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Speaker 4: cameras in the courtroom down in South Florida and Trump's

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Speaker 4: new attorney, John Morrow. This is from Caitlin Collins says,

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Speaker 4: the first thing he will ask for our quote cameras

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Speaker 4: in the courtroom. And he says, and I would hope

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Speaker 4: that the Department of Justice would join in that effort

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Speaker 4: so we can take the curtain away and all Americans

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Speaker 4: can see what's happening. So we had a discussion about this,

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Speaker 4: Buck and said we thought that the Trump people would

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Speaker 4: probably want cameras in the courtroom. About thirty minutes after

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Speaker 4: that discussion, the first public comment that I've seen suggesting

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Speaker 4: that Trump would want cameras in the courtroom. Can you

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Speaker 4: imagine the ratings on that would be through the roof

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Speaker 4: and frankly at my backfire, because I would think, tell

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Speaker 4: me if you think I'm wrong on this, Buck, I

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Speaker 4: woud think it would be very hard for CNN and

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Speaker 4: MSNBC to explain to their audience why they can't carry

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Speaker 4: that trial. And you asked a good question. Trump might

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Speaker 4: well decide to get on the witness stand.

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Speaker 2: He will, and I will make this point if it's televised,

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Speaker 2: he will get on the witness dead.

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Speaker 4: And if he does, that would actually be a way

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Speaker 4: for Trump to talk to people who otherwise will not

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Speaker 4: hear Trump talk other than through the slanted coverage of

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Speaker 4: MSNBC and CNN. Now, let's still slam it, but you

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Speaker 4: can't interrupt the trial to not allow or remember Trump.

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Speaker 2: We saw already to his credit, here's the trial where

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Speaker 2: we're watching the death of our democracy because of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Up the judges speaking, we'll go back. I mean, they'll

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Speaker 2: try to shape the narrative as much as they can,

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Speaker 2: but the footage will be the footage.

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Speaker 4: Here's a prediction if this were to occur, they will

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Speaker 4: have a real time fact check at the bottom of

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Speaker 4: CNN and MSNBC where they try to dispute the things

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Speaker 4: that Trump is saying during his testimony at trial, in

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Speaker 4: the same way that they tried to have Caitlin Collins

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Speaker 4: during the during the Trump event the town hall that

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Speaker 4: they did on CNN. That was such a disaster for

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Speaker 4: CNN in the same way that they had Kaitlin Collins

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Speaker 4: trying to.

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Speaker 2: Reject what was being said there.

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Speaker 4: Here's let's get a couple of calls just to close out,

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Speaker 4: because we said we've we've asked to take some of

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Speaker 4: your calls.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense. Let's go to Vinnie in New Jersey. Vinnie,

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Speaker 2: what's up my man?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys will get right to my point. I was

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Speaker 5: just wondering, maybe next week you can get some of

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Speaker 5: these total Trump supporters caland and ask them where is

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Speaker 5: he getting these votes in twenty twenty four that he

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Speaker 5: didn't have in twenty twenty. He's not the type of

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Speaker 5: guy who changes people's minds. You know who he is.

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Speaker 5: I just don't see I think.

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Speaker 2: The besta it's a good point.

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Speaker 4: How many people are actually going Vinnie asked a great question,

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Speaker 4: and this is something that we're gonna have to talk

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Speaker 4: about a great deal. I don't believe Buck. You may disagree.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's that many people who are going

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Speaker 4: to change their mind. I think if you voted in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty for Biden, you're probably going to vote for

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Speaker 4: Biden again. If you voted for Trump in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: you're probably going to vote for I think Trump absolutely true. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so that's why I laid out I think the best

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Speaker 4: case for Trump is that a lot of those people

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Speaker 4: who bought into the idea Biden's gonna heal America, Biden's

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Speaker 4: gonna save the soul of the country. I do think

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Speaker 4: some of those people might not show up. Like they're

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Speaker 4: not gonna buy in because COVID's not going on. They're

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Speaker 4: not gonna show up because they believe Biden's gonna heal

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Speaker 4: the country. They're gonna show up because they've been told that.

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Speaker 2: Trump is gonna ruin the country. That's the question. So

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Speaker 2: that's question.

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Speaker 4: The other part of it, if if Biden got eighty

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Speaker 4: one million, let's that's the number, how many of those

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Speaker 4: people will actually show up?

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, we got Chris and Maine wants

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Speaker 2: to answer one of our earlier questions here, Chris, what's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 5: Oh, you guys asked the question who is more corrupt,

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Speaker 5: the Bidens or the Clintons, And I would have to

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Speaker 5: say it's the Clinton's hands down. You know, when you

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Speaker 5: look at the number of mysterious deaths that surround the Clintons.

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Speaker 5: You go all the way back to Arkansas when what

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Speaker 5: he did as governor. I think the worst thing though,

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Speaker 5: and I don't know why nobody talks about this, is

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Speaker 5: Hillary Clinton facilitating the sale of thirty percent of US

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Speaker 5: uranium mining rights to the Russians.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the.

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Speaker 5: Russians have nuclear fuel because of Hillary Clinton. The Rosenbergs

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Speaker 5: were killed for less. Right.

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Speaker 2: I'm not thank you for the call. I'm not a buck.

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Speaker 4: I know nothing about the uranium situation in the United

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Speaker 4: States or Russia.

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Speaker 6: Were you as a c C I she signed off

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Speaker 6: on selling your uranium mining rights to a Russian back

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Speaker 6: CONSORTI fire member this when she was Secretary of State,

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Speaker 6: That's what he's referring to.

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Speaker 4: But they already had nukes then, right, I mean they

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Speaker 4: already yeah, yeah, So I'm not an expert on that.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you. The media compares so this would

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Speaker 2: be a fascinating piece. Biden versus versus Clinton used the

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Speaker 2: Washington Post as a prison how they covered allegations against

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Speaker 2: the Democrat president then, compared to now would be an

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Speaker 2: amazing reading.

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