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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama girl drama girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them.

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Speaker 3: High school queens. We'll take you for a ride. And

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Speaker 3: our comic girl cheering for the right teams.

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Speaker 2: Drama Queens girl fashion, but your tough girl, you could

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Speaker 2: sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drahna, Queens Drama, Queens.

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Speaker 4: Oh babe, it was great. This episode was locking great.

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Speaker 4: But also I'm traumatized.

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Speaker 3: By the way I loved this episode so much, And

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Speaker 3: the whole time I was just watching this emotional tragedy

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Speaker 3: that you and Chad had to play out, and I

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Speaker 3: was like, did they just keep Advilla on set for y'all?

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Speaker 3: Like were they keeping you hydrated? I was so sad

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Speaker 3: and heartbroken for you.

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Speaker 4: Both, but same for you. I was just like, why

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Speaker 4: are they putting Sophia the human through this? Like? This

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Speaker 4: is hard, guys, this.

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Speaker 3: Was This is a lot of hard work on this one.

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Speaker 4: Very different episode, very very different episode, beautifully written, which

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Speaker 4: is why we're so affected by this By Terrence Coley.

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Speaker 5: Why don't you tell them what the rundown is?

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Speaker 4: Baby?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Terry Colely did such a great job on this y'all.

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Speaker 3: We're here for season six, episode seventeen, You and Me

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Speaker 3: and the Bottle makes three tonight, which actually feels sort

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Speaker 3: of appropriate. It is early here. I don't have a liquor.

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Speaker 3: I have a smoothie. But our compatriot Joy is shooting

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Speaker 3: a film. Not that it's about me, but she is

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Speaker 3: shooting in Sophia, Bulgaria, which does make me feel sort

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Speaker 3: of she Yeah, she was like, you the whole city, honey.

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Speaker 3: She was like, it's so beautiful here. You die for

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Speaker 3: the architecture.

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Speaker 4: I was like, that feels nice, fantastic. But it's like

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Speaker 3: It's very late there. She is actually still on set.

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Speaker 3: She was supposed to join us today. So Hillary, it's

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Speaker 3: you and Me and the Smoothie makes three. Ooh, girl

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Speaker 3: on this.

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Speaker 4: Podcast about a coffee.

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Speaker 3: We got coffee.

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Speaker 4: I just housed some olive bread I needed to eat

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Speaker 4: after this, I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: It really it really did make me feel emotional and snacky.

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Speaker 3: We've really gone a little tangential. But friends, let me

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Speaker 3: tell you what this one is about. Peyton and Lucas

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Speaker 3: receive a startling surprise about the pregnancy as Brooke and

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Speaker 3: Julian's relationship comes to a crossroads. Nathan and Haley celebrate

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Speaker 3: their anniversary while Dan and Debb babysit Jamie. Meanwhile, Marvin

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Speaker 3: and Millie try to pick up the pieces of their relationship.

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Speaker 3: I don't love that the synopsis says you get a

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Speaker 3: startling surprise, but I wonder if that's a nod to

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Speaker 3: the title cards of each vignette.

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Speaker 4: I see that, So, yeah, that's what was so different

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Speaker 4: about this. This was written as a collection of like

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Speaker 4: one act plays, and typically we don't get to do

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Speaker 4: that in TV because viewers get bored. They're like, oh god,

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Speaker 4: we've heard the same people talking for two hull pages.

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Speaker 4: I got to change the channel. And at this point,

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't know what the catalyst for this

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Speaker 4: was for us to really like sit in these scenes

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Speaker 4: and I love it, But it was as an actor. Oof,

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Speaker 4: it was doing a play. Everyone was doing a play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember the combination of excitement and anxiety that

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Speaker 3: we all felt when we got the script, because yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, these these scenes are seven eight nine pages

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and this one. I vividly remember filming this

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Speaker 4: one because Chad and I knew that we had a

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Speaker 4: It felt like us felt like our show to be like,

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Speaker 4: You know, like, whatever the we're doing in this scene,

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Speaker 3: So what you're saying is your whole script was just

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Speaker 4: I mean kind of yeah, it was dark, you know.

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Speaker 4: we need to provide a trigger warning for anyone who

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Speaker 4: what we're talking about. But you know, fertility, yeah, storylines, uh,

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Speaker 4: pregnancy loss storylines, abortion storylines, all of that was touched

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Speaker 4: upon in this episode in a way. Yeah that I'm

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Speaker 4: Yeah. We we had some big talks well on that episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were really large, and it was interesting because

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Speaker 3: the episode opens, you know, we talked a lot about

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Speaker 3: feels to me like this episode was really written to

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Speaker 3: heavy stuff for people. And you talked about this last week,

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Speaker 3: how when you were filming all this stuff as Peyton

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Speaker 3: not only did I feel for you, guys watching you,

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Speaker 4: Well, what'sked up is that I had some experience with this.

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Speaker 4: I was between seasons one and two. I had some

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Speaker 4: fertility issues. I had a problem that caused me to

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Speaker 4: miss a photo shoot in LA and our boss lost

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Speaker 4: houck you up for me? So the powers that be

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was just going to say, I one of the

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Speaker 4: Way if I hear that, if I hear one more

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Speaker 4: Course not, because if I'm upset, then I'm unprofessional.

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Speaker 4: If I actually say how I feel, I get attacked

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Speaker 4: You know, it's one thing when like you do something

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Speaker 4: And so this was a turning point in our friendship

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Speaker 3: Well, but I you know, I think about that in

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have more professional experience in this world

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Speaker 4: You done big stuff. Though. I love the Ryan Reynolds comment.

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Speaker 3: And this, I know, I know that was very funny.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I never actually dated that guy?

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Speaker 4: Was it? Van Wilder?

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Speaker 3: Like the reference to like my first movie ever was

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Speaker 4: Well, because who's dated? Who have you looked at your list?

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Speaker 4: I didn't date Pete Wentz in real life? You guys, well, well.

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Speaker 3: Of course you didn't. By there's so many people that

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Speaker 3: guess I'll let you believe that because I don't really need,

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Speaker 3: you know, in my real business. But before we get there,

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Speaker 3: I could see that that dynamic you're talking about not

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Speaker 3: public figure, like you almost want everybody to have all

438
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: the facts so that things make sense, and then you're

439
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: also like nobody deserves that. Yeah, but you know, people

440
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: fill vacuums where you give yourself grace or privacy with

441
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 3: their own facts, which are usually pretty gross. And to

442
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: go through that after like such a period of sweetness

443
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: when I was a kid was very jarring, and so

444
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: it definitely what I realize now again, Like props to

445
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: my wonderful therapist. Trevor's worth every dollar I pay him.

446
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 4: Thanks Trevor.

447
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: I love you, Trevor.

448
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 4: Uh.

449
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: Also, my therapist calls me dude, which like is just

450
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 3: my favorite thing. He's sort of like when you talk

451
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 3: about how you and Chad became like very brother sister,

452
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 3: Like my therapist feels like the big brother I never had,

453
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 3: not the point. I love him, but you know what

454
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: I've learned is that. It taught me like, oh, you

455
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 3: can be living a life and not realize it's not real.

456
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: Like you can you can literally think you know what's

457
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: going on around you, and there's this whole other thing.

458
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: And so what I learned in these six years was

459
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: like I don't trust people. Yeah, I have to like

460
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: observe people. I you know, I would stay like very

461
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: single for long periods of time and just observe people.

462
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: Anybody who like wanted to date me, I'd make them

463
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: become my friend and I'd observe them to see like

464
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: who are you really when you're not trying to like

465
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: woo me or impress.

466
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 4: Me, right, you know, like I just you also would

467
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: sick your friends on people like hey, yeah, go see

468
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 4: how tell me.

469
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: What you think of this? Like tell me you go

470
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 3: talk to that person and see if I'm crazy because

471
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: I really didn't think for a long time that I

472
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: could trust my judgment.

473
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: You know, when that gets ripped away from you, baby,

474
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: like yeah, it's so hard.

475
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 5: To come back from that.

476
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and when you when you go through betrayal,

477
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: you go like, oh, do I have any idea what's

478
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: real and what isn't? Yeah, you know it is a

479
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: kind of loss. Like when you talk about loss, it

480
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: is a loss of you know, a loss of trust

481
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: for others is painful enough, but a loss of self

482
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: trust is difficult. And so for me, what I see

483
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 3: being done in this episode is like the people who

484
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: knew me and observed me for six years were like, hey, honey,

485
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 3: do you realize you do this? Do you realize you

486
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 3: hold people at arm's length, like you really heisman people?

487
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 3: And I did, like certainly, And I've I've always moved

488
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: very I've moved like very slowly for a very long

489
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: time time. I think that was just sort of how

490
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 3: I learned to protect myself. And it was interesting to

491
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: watch it be written about in a way like because

492
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: it's me, but it's not me, and just go like,

493
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: oh wow, people really can see me. Oh and like

494
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: so we really have our real lives, Like in a sense,

495
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: it's like a like a shadow self, like a.

496
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: Like a a copy avatar.

497
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like like multiplicity, Like it's the second Michael

498
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: Keaton where you're like, it's me, but it's not me,

499
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: but it's me. I feel this is very intimate and personal.

500
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: Oh. I really struggled with Julian in this episode, I

501
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: thought he was gross. I thought when Brooke said ick,

502
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 4: which she said you ick at the.

503
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: Time, I don't do that.

504
00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: I don't do that. I agree with her and I

505
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: But then when I saw Peyton's stomach bump, I realized, like, oh,

506
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 4: some time has passed, like that's the thing. Has it

507
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: been three months?

508
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 5: Has it been four months?

509
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 4: Like? I wish they had given us some semblance of

510
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: time other than a growing bump on Peyton.

511
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: Well, especially because we kept getting the chirns for the

512
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: vignettes seven year itch deleted scene, Like, couldn't they have

513
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: given us like a three months later, right?

514
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: Because Julian, the last thing I knew, you were throwing

515
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: your letter jacket at him, you know, and you guys

516
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 4: had a fight and then you sort of made up

517
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: in the diner.

518
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 5: It was fine.

519
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: And now he's saying I love you like crazy talk.

520
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: It was h It was a little whiplashy for me

521
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: in the beginning, But then as as the story progressed

522
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: and he kept pushing you further and further and further,

523
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: it really felt to me like he was an insull

524
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: in high school and actually never really had a girlfriend.

525
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

526
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: I was like, why are you guilty, this chick. It's

527
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: so passive aggressive. It's not I don't want anyone to

528
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: ever tell me they love me because I've forced them

529
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 4: to before they were comfortable with it.

530
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it started in such a good place, and

531
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: then it did get almost a little combative, and I

532
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: was like.

533
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm just being sensitive because I'm

534
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: protective of Brooke, but yeah, maybe there's I mean, I'm

535
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: sure there's people out there there like Hillary Layoff. She

536
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,239
Speaker 4: needed to hear the hard love. She needed to hear it,

537
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: and sure, maybe, sure, maybe she did, but.

538
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: It just felt really pressure. Well, here's what I think

539
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: is cool. I liked the reveal because Brook's never said

540
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: it until this episode. I like the reveal that she

541
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: has not been in love since high school, you know,

542
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: because you can kind of assume it. In the four

543
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: years we skipped. We never saw it in the flashbacks.

544
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: We saw Victoria making her go on dates so she'd

545
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: get photographed with the hot guy for the tabloid whatever.

546
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: But to hear her say it, and to see Julian

547
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: see it, and to see the discomfort, like I remember

548
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: how that felt to stand there and think about what

549
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: it would be like to have someone see your secret

550
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: that you just haven't opened yourself up to anybody in

551
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: so long. And I appreciated as much as I thought

552
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: by the end of the scene he was a little petulant.

553
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: They wrote him that way. What I appreciated was the

554
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: fact that she was able to say, like, no matter

555
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: how bad you feel about this dynamic, imagine how I feel.

556
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: And that she got to say how hard it is

557
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: to be the footnote in someone else's love story. And

558
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: what I loved that he said to her in response

559
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: is that you gave up feeling like you deserve love.

560
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: I was like, oh god, Oh it cuts deep where

561
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: you go like, maybe that's just not for me. Like

562
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: I've I've had that experience. I've had to come to

563
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: terms with that experience, with reaching a point in life

564
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: where it's like, well, I know I want to be

565
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: a parent, and I know I want partnership, and I

566
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: know I want these things, and I have so much

567
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: love in my life. So maybe maybe it doesn't look

568
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: like it's looked on TV or in movies. Maybe it

569
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: looks like a partnership for the good of others. Maybe

570
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: it looks maybe it looks like different than I thought

571
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: it was going to look like and the real roundabout

572
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: for me, the like aha moment is like we said

573
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: this idea of Martyring. It's it is what Glennan wrote

574
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: her book about. It's like, well, if I'm going to

575
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: be in a relationship or a marriage for my eventual daughter,

576
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: would I want this relationship for my daughter? And I

577
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: think that's a big lesson And I see that in

578
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: my life.

579
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: That's so weird. Can I tell you that that exact

580
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: quote has popped up in my algorithm multiple times in

581
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 4: the last couple of days and I don't know why.

582
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: By the way, it's been in mine a lot too.

583
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: And I'm like, are they listening to the conversations I'm

584
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: having with Trevor, Like what's going on? Yeah?

585
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: Weird. Yeah, it's like her doing an interview talking about

586
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: that exact excerpt.

587
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 5: Yes, weird.

588
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: Yes, And like I remember when I first read that book,

589
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: I sent it to my mom and like it gave

590
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: us a whole conversation and my mom and I talked

591
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: about like our family histories and generational trauma and things

592
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: in my parents' relationship and things in the relationships I've

593
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: been in. Like it's such a profound thing of Oh,

594
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: we will make all these We'll pretzel ourselves in a

595
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: lot of ways, but we would never want anyone to

596
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: pretzel our kids. Yeah, Like we don't want them to

597
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: be folded up and made small. And I think the

598
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: reason I love what's happening in this episode so much

599
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 3: is it rings true for me. It rings true for

600
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: me at the age we filmed it, It rings true

601
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 3: for me now where I've been. I know it rang

602
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 3: true for you then, and I know it rings even

603
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: truer for you now, given where you've been in your

604
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: family and with your stories of loss and like that,

605
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: I think is the power of a good story when

606
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: you can go like, oh, all of these things are

607
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: really unique, these storylines, but they're super universal because they're true.

608
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 4: Well, it'sn't that step that we could do the show

609
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 4: in our early twenties and then be here in our

610
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 4: forties still triggered by it. And I think that's why

611
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: our show was a multi generational show. Like, yeah, if

612
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 4: this were just airing on TV right now, I would

613
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 4: feel just as connected to this character as I did,

614
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 4: yes at twenty five five years old.

615
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 3: Totally agree, And I think that is the magic of

616
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: our show. I think it's why we have you know,

617
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: we get to hang out with all these different groups

618
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 3: of intergenerational fans when we go to events and stuff.

619
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: Everyone in their forties relates to it, and so does

620
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: everyone in their twenties. And by the way, like so

621
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: to our parents. And I was about to say in

622
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: their sixties. Then I'm like, sure, our parents are in

623
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: their seventies and they're still like totally haraforing.

624
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 4: Hatey Hamory, you know, like yeah.

625
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: And I just think I think this is the specialness

626
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: of story. And so often when our real stories were

627
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 3: used on camera it felt gross, But this I actually

628
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: really appreciate for us.

629
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't mind having a script in life.

630
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 4: I don't mind having like a practice run. And that's

631
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: what our show really was for us in a lot

632
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: of ways. Like Chad was my first wedding and first

633
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: you know, pregnancy and all this kind of stuff, and

634
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: you just get to you know how people drive around

635
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 4: in their cars and they have fake conversations just to practice. Yeah,

636
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 4: do you do that? I do that.

637
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: Oh, I talk to myself and other people who aren't

638
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: here in my house all day all the time.

639
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: You have to practice the conversation. Yeah, you're out the conversation.

640
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sometimes you got to practice ahead of time, and

641
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: sometimes five years later you're like what I.

642
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: Should have said was and another thing, Oh, I'll bring

643
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: it back up.

644
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this.

645
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was for a lot of my stuff, Like

646
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 4: our practice run one Tree Hill, So we practiced.

647
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: And do you ever wonder in like, maybe this is

648
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: kind of up, but do you ever watch our show

649
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: and go like, did this did we like manifest all

650
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: the things that happened to us later? Like did the

651
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: show say to the universe, Oh more of this? Because

652
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: I would have liked to have been like, no, no,

653
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: this is just for work.

654
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: Honestly, we conjured so much unintentionally did this show? Because

655
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: when you when you say things are little witch. Yeah,

656
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 4: when you say things out loud, that's powerful. You know

657
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: the power of speech is incredibly powerful. And you know

658
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 4: you when you put your energy into words and ideas

659
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: and thoughts and you do it over and over and

660
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: over again, it ends up happening. It always. If I

661
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 4: say someone's name three times, you bet your they're gonna

662
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 4: send me a Facebook message or text me, or just

663
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: can show up at the supermarket. It's a nightmare, so

664
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 4: I'm really careful what I say. And yeah, with this show,

665
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, having a baby, having pregnancy complications. You know,

666
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: Peyton was all about mom and pop shops, you know,

667
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: the trick of it all to all Ages club, and

668
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: here I am with the town candy store, you know,

669
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: hanging out with all the teenagers. It just feels really cyclical,

670
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 4: and I like that, and I think it's happening for

671
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 4: other characters on our show too. You know, when we

672
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 4: see Nathan and Haley, you know, when we see Mouth

673
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: and Millie even having these like very hard conversations, we

674
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 4: know the people behind it who have conquered really hard

675
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: things in their life, and we know that maybe this

676
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: was a good practice run for everybody on Adult Ting, Like.

677
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that's something I think is so

678
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: cool is the stages of relationships everyone in. Like Brooke

679
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: and Julian are on the precipice of something and he's

680
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: asking her to leap with him. Peyton and Lucas are

681
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: on the verge of this whole new frontier, and then

682
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: we get to go with Nathan and Haley with our

683
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: other like you know, pillar couple.

684
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 4: Thank God they're safe.

685
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 3: Thank God. But by the way, how cute that they're

686
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: in the seven year itch moment and instead of it

687
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: being a problem with their relationship, their relationship is stronger

688
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: than ever. But they're both being really honest that individually

689
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: they don't have what they want yet, that they want

690
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: more of the things that make them as individuals happy.

691
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: Nathan wants to pursue basketball, and because he wants to

692
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: pursue basketball, he knows Haley wants to pursue music. Yeah,

693
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: and like, who could call her on that but him

694
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 3: and say like, I saw your face. And the reason

695
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: I know the feeling is because I get that feeling.

696
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: I love that he does that for her.

697
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 4: And this when she says there's only room for one

698
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: attention whrror in this fam, I was like, so good, girl,

699
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 4: I heard that.

700
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 3: I heard that.

701
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, there's definitely room for two attention whoors in

702
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 4: every family, but no more, no more? Uh. Yeah. I

703
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 4: liked that they had that really honest conversation because, first

704
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: of all, when they first show open in that house,

705
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,959
Speaker 4: I'm like, what the are they doing in a house?

706
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 4: Why didn't they just go to a hotel. Yeah, but

707
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 4: there's something kinky about being in a for sale house.

708
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: You know, listen, seven years in, we're getting lessons on

709
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 3: how to keep it spicy.

710
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 5: You know, we hooked, definitely hooked up in a house

711
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 5: that was for sale once.

712
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: Because he's on my face.

713
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: I was like, are you gonna say it? Are you

714
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: gonna say it? Because I know the story, that's all.

715
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 3: I'm so red.

716
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you. I'm not embarrassed. We have

717
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 4: been together for fifteen years. We can do whatever we want.

718
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 3: I am real proud of you, babe.

719
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: So that's all I could think about, is I watched

720
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: this scene like, get that, Hailey, I get that. Yeah, Okay,

721
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: making moves. That's why seven years.

722
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: In that feels right. I also loved again, like when

723
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: we talk about this idea that our characters feel a

724
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: little bit like the first Michael Keaton in Multiplicity, you know,

725
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: like just one copy over. Watching Nathan and Haley run

726
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: around in this house and sort of fantasize about this

727
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: parallel universe life. It feels like they're toying with their

728
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: own little avatars. Oh yeah, what would it look like?

729
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 3: And talking about what could be?

730
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was interesting to me that she kept

731
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 4: choosing like movie references. It was like she was trying

732
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 4: to create a because she didn't grow up necessarily in

733
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: a conventional household. Her parents have sold the house, they're

734
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 4: living in an RV. You know, she's trying to create

735
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: the fantasy, right, the white picket fence, the old house

736
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 4: filled up with kids, like it's a very antiquated version

737
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: of what a happy family looks like. And then Nathan

738
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 4: comes in and is like, but that's not our happy.

739
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 4: Our happy is mom on the road, which is the

740
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 4: exact opposite of mother martyrdom, you know, And to have

741
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: the boy recommend that what I want to know, who

742
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: Terry's their therapist? Was our writer? Because yes, by the way, who's.

743
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: That man's therapist? And can Terry maybe write like an

744
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: advice book for dudes, what are we doing?

745
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: Well?

746
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 5: That's it.

747
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 4: Like when I had my first miscarriage and Jeff didn't

748
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: know what to do, someone gave me a book that

749
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 4: was written by a man who had experience, and was

750
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: it helpful? It helped me because all of a sudden

751
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: I understood what he was going through. And then when

752
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: I gave it to him, he didn't feel like an alien,

753
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: you know. So for Terry, yeah, Terry, we need you

754
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: to write a book on all things like how to

755
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 4: support your partner's career, how to deal with loss, how

756
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: to show up in a way that's helpful and not manipulative.

757
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 4: Also though, like don't force people to tell you that

758
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 4: they love you.

759
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that was probably a little bit of

760
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: a device to poke the bear, to poke the brook.

761
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, we needed Julian. He's not a perfect person. He's

762
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: not good, he's not bad, he's just trying.

763
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and you don't always get it right, and

764
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: that is something that I think is actually so important

765
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: to show on TV because part of the problem, like

766
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: when you talk about what Hayley's trying to achieve, you

767
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 3: watch those rom coms and you think that's what your

768
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 3: life is supposed to be like, and that's not life.

769
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: It's not that easy. And I actually like when our

770
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: characters don't always get it right and then they figure

771
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: out how to get through it, because that's what we learn. Like,

772
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 3: that's what you're talking about with this book. You guys

773
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 3: got it taught you how to get it more right

774
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: with each other because you didn't know how yet.

775
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, for anybody that is going through something like that, though,

776
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 4: we should.

777
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 5: I'm gonna yeah, what is the book?

778
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: It's called Vessels And Okay. It was so incredibly helpful,

779
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 4: not just in this but in like my home marriage.

780
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: It is a book by Daniel Rayburn.

781
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 5: R AE b U r N.

782
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 4: It's wonderful. It was a really it was a really

783
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 4: helped book because I do think the boys get a

784
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: bad rap. You know, they're not necessarily given a ton

785
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 4: of great examples of how to be involved in their

786
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 4: partner's hard stuff. It's almost like they're given this choice,

787
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: like you can either be overbearing and man's plain and

788
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 4: tell her what to do, or just be so hands

789
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 4: off that she's abandoned.

790
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: That she's like I can't believe I did this with you.

791
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. Nathan could very easily say like, whatever you want, Haley,

792
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: whatever you want. Yeah, but he's involving himself. He's got

793
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 4: a lot on his plate. She's coming to him with

794
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: this problem of like, hey, so I got suspended. Sorry

795
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: I didn't tell you, but maybe let's just change our

796
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: whole life right now. Yeah.

797
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: It's sort of like when you go through when someone

798
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: goes through a breakup and they cut bangs and you're

799
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 3: like no, no, no, I went through that in my

800
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 3: in my crew, in my crew, well, I mean I've

801
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: done it, but no, this summer, like with everybody, everybody

802
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 3: I know was either getting divorced or having a baby.

803
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: I was like, well it's a wild but in like

804
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: my closest crew, of the five of us, now it's

805
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 3: four who one stayed and four didn't who were all

806
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: getting divorced. My best friend called and was like, so

807
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: is today the day I get bangs? And I was like,

808
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: We've been doing this dance for fifteen years. We do

809
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: not go through a breakup and cut bangs. We're not

810
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 3: doing this. And so I wound up getting our friend Ricky,

811
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: who is like our big consulting, wonderful hairdresser. When we

812
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: did our salon and Detroit. We called Ricky and I

813
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: was like, Ricky, I need you to order nia instead

814
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: of clip in bangs so she can clip them in

815
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: on the days that she thinks that she wants these

816
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: and then she can take them out because I know

817
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: her as well as I know myself, and she never

818
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: is happy three days after she cuts up. We've done

819
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: this twice in the last decade, and so now we

820
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: both have clip and banks Sophia.

821
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 4: If you don't launch a line of brook Banks, I

822
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: am gonna be so mad at you. You have been

823
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 4: talking about clip and bangs for years.

824
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with them. I know it's like the easiest

825
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: way to have a change.

826
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you don't, if you don't get on that,

827
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be furious with you.

828
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: Okay, who do we talk to? Do you want to help?

829
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 4: Well? Apparently your friend who can make bangs? Yeah, I

830
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: just need someone with like a little gray stripe right here,

831
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 4: a little white stripe. Yeah. Brook Banks are gonna be

832
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 4: a huge seller at Target, my friend, no one else

833
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 4: is selling just like bangs.

834
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: Oh They're all I want.

835
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: Just put them in the same aisle as all the

836
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 4: shampoo and hair products and stuff at these like big stores,

837
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: and every woman that's like got that one hour to

838
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: herself between work and kid pick up is just gonna

839
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 4: be like.

840
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna try them.

841
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 4: I just need a bang.

842
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: We just need like a like what what are the

843
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: ends of the aisles Kiosk?

844
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 4: You just need a little Kiosks aisle.

845
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: Cap I want that.

846
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 4: You're gonna make so much money on this idea.

847
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: Me and Sally Hanson, let's go.

848
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 4: I love new nails, new bangs. Knew you. I can

849
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 4: love it so much. I do want bangs just because

850
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 4: I do too.

851
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 3: Wait, speaking of changes that people make, this is sort

852
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 3: of a hard left, but sort of not.

853
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 4: No, I know, are you getting lasick? Lasic?

854
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: The lasik is a big old change because when when

855
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: mouth finds her glasses in the drawer, like this old

856
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: piece of her has been left behind, I'm.

857
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 4: It really hit me.

858
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 3: It made me like, it made my little voice catch

859
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: in my throat.

860
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: You know what I liked about it. My gut reaction

861
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: when she said I got lasick was that she did

862
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 4: this thing.

863
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 5: She didn't consult him.

864
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 4: She you know, it's a cosmetic procedure, but she made

865
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: this decision completely on her own, the same way she

866
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 4: did with her virginity. She didn't consult anyone. And there

867
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 4: seems to be this gradual building of Milly where she

868
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 4: doesn't need permission for sure. And when he's like, I

869
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 4: missed the glasses, had she asked him should I get lasik?

870
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: And he said no, I like the glasses. An old

871
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 4: Millie that would have altered her decision, But new Milly's

872
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 4: like I'm not gonna ask anybody. I just don't want

873
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 4: to wear these things in my face anymore.

874
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 3: Mm hm. And I'm wondering. I'm like, did I can't remember,

875
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: did Lisa actually get lasik during those episodes she was

876
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: off because remember we were all getting lasik done by

877
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: Mike Lehon's wife.

878
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kayleone.

879
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 3: I'm like, did Kate fix her eyes? Like I don't

880
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: know prior to this episode? I'm so cute.

881
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 4: Were Lisa's glasses ever real?

882
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: Yes?

883
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 4: Okay, they were real? Interesting? No? Yeah, I like it.

884
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 4: I like it for Millie. You know, it's a little

885
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 4: she's all that taking the glasses off and being infinitely

886
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 4: like hotter.

887
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 5: Now she's she's not a virgin anymore.

888
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: Look at her. She's in high boots and silk and

889
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: there's cleavage.

890
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: She was she was in a brook Davis Tyler sugar.

891
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 3: I love that top.

892
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looked fantastic. And I was like, why don't

893
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 4: we still have blouses like that? Because I liked how

894
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 4: they hug your tits, but they're not snug on my

895
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 4: belly because I don't like snug on my belly.

896
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: I don't either. I want to be able to eat

897
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: a burrito and have people not ask me if I'm pregnant.

898
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: So we're gonna sell bangs and hugging shirts, but but

899
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: leave that belly free.

900
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 5: Okay, God, Sophia, we have so many things to do

901
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 5: business wise.

902
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: I just love this.

903
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 4: No. I I like that Mouth apologized to her. I

904
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 4: like that he copped to the text messages and was like,

905
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 4: I am accepting ownership of this. And I also like

906
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: that it still wasn't enough for Milly because she was like, I, okay,

907
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 4: you're sorry, Like, okay, but this is my stuff. This

908
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 4: I have to deal with this in my head, like

909
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 4: I don't need your permission to forgive myself. I need

910
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: to handle me. There's just again, it's like an autonomy

911
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: story where she is centered in herself. It was great. Yeah,

912
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 4: I hated for her. I feel bad, but she looks

913
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 4: hot and seems like she's on the right path, and

914
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 4: I guess I'm not worried about her. I know she's

915
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 4: crying in her car, but sometimes we do that for fun.

916
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just need a good cry.

917
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: Girl. If a Celindion song comes on, hey, I'm gonna

918
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 4: feel some things.

919
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: I love it.

920
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 4: Little Pola Cole, Oh, come on.

921
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 3: O'Connor, come on, just like the old emo girl songstresses.

922
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 3: I want to hurt my my my girlfriend Betty, who

923
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: just covers So did you see the pole cover? I

924
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: just that's why I said, Oh god, I know killed me.

925
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: I was like, more of this, please, we got to

926
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: send it to all our Dawson's friends.

927
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 4: It is really really good. Do we think they're going

928
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 4: to get back together? He kept He kept the glasses

929
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 4: in the drawer, which I like because when men leave

930
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 4: things planted in their apartment, it means they don't plan

931
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 4: on bringing anything new over or they're sadistic. But I

932
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 4: don't think Mouth cisadis. I don't think I don't either.

933
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm as much as I don't love the way

934
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: that they've written some of this stuff for Mouth. I

935
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 3: just I like Mouth and Milling together. I think. I

936
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 3: think my my hope is that they get past you know,

937
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: im petulant writing.

938
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 4: Because he's already said even though Terry wrote really like

939
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: lovely things for him to say in this episode, he

940
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 4: said some eightish previous episodes, and it's like.

941
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: It was not cool.

942
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: Oh it's hard to it's hard to get over.

943
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say, though, what I do really appreciate

944
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 3: is him him owning his behavior. Finally, you know, I

945
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 3: felt like that was a really long time coming.

946
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 4: Well, was that another dig at our boss? You said

947
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 4: on the last episode that Mike Harrow was taking digs

948
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 4: at our boss with all of the like creepy director behavior.

949
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: And so there's a part of me, with all this

950
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 4: text message talk that makes me think that maybe Terry

951
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 4: was playing the same card because the text messages were relentless.

952
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: Well and the and the text messages, like Gigi's entire

953
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: storyline is our boss is fantasy of how he wishes

954
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: women would throw themselves at him. So yeah, I wonder,

955
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: I wonder if there's some sort of role reversal call

956
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: out happening with mouth there.

957
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, just even like participating in that when you're in

958
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 5: a relationship is no bueno.

959
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and I don't I don't know what was

960
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: happening in season six, but I definitely know, you know,

961
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: some of our sweet friends who come in next season,

962
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 3: I do know that one of the things our Boss

963
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: would do to them a lot would be like, oh yeah,

964
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: send me a picture of your fitting, Like I want

965
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 3: to see what the outfits are, Like, you know, wardrobe

966
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 3: is slow, and then it would be like, well, you know,

967
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: but you've got you've got a scene, you have a

968
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: love scene with so and so, Like what are the

969
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: underwear options? And he would essentially, like, under the guise

970
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: of meaning to pick wardrobe, like, would force women to

971
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: send photos of themselves in underwear to him?

972
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 4: Are you kidding?

973
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 3: I'm not so. I wonder. I wonder if I wonder

974
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: if he had tried to pull that with any of

975
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: our sweet little guest stars this season, and if that

976
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 3: was part of the gig of it all. I don't know,

977
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: I'd be very curious to ask. Also, I'm just like,

978
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 3: what a loser like you really have nothing better to

979
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 3: do with the whole Internet at your disposal? Like why

980
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: do you have to bumb people?

981
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 4: Are you professionals at your disposal?

982
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 3: Internet at your disposal to find whatever kind of pictures

983
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: you're looking for? Why you gotta why you've got to

984
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 3: make people.

985
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 5: On take your kink elsewhere?

986
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 4: Sir?

987
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 3: Thank you? You know what kind of kink we like?

988
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: Cutie couples in the houses, what kind of kinks we

989
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: don't be in? A creep people who don't want you

990
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 3: to be a creep in their cell phones.

991
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't be a cell phone creep. Tap, Dan's being

992
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 4: a creep.

993
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 3: The flip, dude, the flip, And it was exactly what

994
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 3: we talked about last week. We love Dan Scott so much.

995
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 3: In these moments, we can't believe it. He seems different.

996
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 3: And then the flip on Deb. I was like, Oh,

997
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 3: there he is.

998
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 4: He almost got us, didn't he.

999
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: He almost got us? We knew better.

1000
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1001
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: See, this is why I don't trust my judgment every time.

1002
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: We fall for it every time with Dan Scott. Oh,

1003
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 4: how come you and Nan or nanny Deb aren't together?

1004
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 4: And you're thinking, I get it, Jamie. I'd want them

1005
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 4: to get.

1006
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: Back together too, because you love them both so much.

1007
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 4: And then Deb is like not today, and then he

1008
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 4: blames her. We need to be more, Deb, We need

1009
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 4: to be like no, I'm gonna hate you forever and

1010
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 4: then ten more years after forever. Yeah, she's cold. I

1011
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 4: like that.

1012
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: You know what I call that? I call that a

1013
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: strong boundary. Thank you, Trevor, Thanks Trevor.

1014
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: I appreciate your therapist, Trevor, because I get like the

1015
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 4: trickle down effect where now you talk me off my ledges.

1016
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 4: It works out great for everybody.

1017
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 3: It's been it's been wonderful.

1018
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 4: Did you think when deb was looking at that photo

1019
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 4: album that she was going to make a pass down

1020
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: or something?

1021
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 3: I caught myself holding my breath. Yeah, right, yeah, I

1022
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: was like, what is this? What's happening? Are we reminiscing? What?

1023
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 4: What? And then I see, you know what she was doing.

1024
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 4: She was compartmentalizing the way that we do where we're like,

1025
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 4: everything's fine, it's great. I I hold you, but you'd

1026
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 4: never know anything makes sense.

1027
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 3: I'm fantasizing about plotting your death, but you'd never know.

1028
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 5: Oh my god, yeah, Deb, she's a great actress.

1029
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 4: Deb Well.

1030
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: And the shock then, because they really get into it

1031
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 3: and it gets heightened and heightened and and it starts

1032
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: in this sweet memory right with Disney. So then the

1033
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 3: photo album makes sense and you're kind of like, oh

1034
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 3: my god, what's happening. Is this family finding some semblance

1035
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 3: of healing? And do we want that? And then she

1036
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 3: slaps him with it and then he really just god,

1037
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: he comes back to her. Yeah, he comes back in

1038
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 3: full force and he grabs her and he's vicious, and

1039
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: then in walks the kid with the beeper and you go.

1040
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 4: Now, right when she says, I can't wait for you

1041
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 4: to die, like that makes me believe in justice God.

1042
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 4: All right boy, yeah, well look, we all know what's

1043
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 4: going to happen. It's one of the most legendary moments

1044
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: in Tree Hill history, and I can't wait to talk

1045
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 4: about it.

1046
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: Oh that poor dog.

1047
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 4: What was your honorable mention for this episode?

1048
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: Honestly, for me, I'd give the honorable mention to Terry,

1049
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 3: to our writer.

1050
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.

1051
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: He did such a beautiful job.

1052
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 4: He really my gallows humor. And so my honorable mention

1053
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 4: is for the specific lines where Peyton's like, oh, I'm

1054
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 4: gonna haunt your ass. But just she says, think about

1055
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 4: how much Jake Jigelski single dad tail, You're gonna get

1056
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 4: it right, the Jake Chigelski reference in the midst of

1057
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 4: this super traumatic talk.

1058
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 3: It's so funny, guys.

1059
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: This is why I'm always making like horrible jokes right

1060
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 4: when we're about to get really vulnerable, because like, that's

1061
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 4: what they did to me on this show. They just

1062
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 4: ingrained this morbid sense of I love it, fuck it up.

1063
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: I love it, I need it because I'll, you know,

1064
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: I'll sit and talk about feelings all day. I need

1065
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 3: you to be like, shut up and drink this.

1066
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 4: Drink Yin and Yang. I hope you all have your

1067
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 4: Yin and Yang partner. Uh out there in the world.

1068
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 4: We have a question, baby, what's our question here? Uh?

1069
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: It's from Jamie. If you girls had a cheer coach

1070
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: in the earlier seasons, who would you have liked to

1071
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 3: cast for that role?

1072
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1073
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 4: Fun, Okay, So I had some real cheer coaches, and

1074
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 4: I'm that really stood out to me. And I'm trying

1075
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 4: to think of, like who their celebrity counterpart was. I

1076
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 4: had Linda Harmon, who was like the tiniest little Italian

1077
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 4: woman who would just tear our asses up. I mean,

1078
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 4: she was terrifying. But we were the best. We were

1079
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 4: the best cheerleading squad.

1080
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you lived to impress her.

1081
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 4: Oh God, I don't know why.

1082
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 3: And maybe this is just because we are so nostalgic

1083
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: for them because we've met them now and they've been

1084
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 3: so kind to us. But what I would give for

1085
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: like another iconic teen show actress, Like imagine if Tiffany

1086
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 3: Theeson or Jenny Garth, Yeah, had been our cheer coach,

1087
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 3: like someone from nine o two and zero or saved

1088
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 3: by the belt like Kelly Kapowski is our cheer coach.

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Speaker 4: Come on, yeah, that would have crushed for shit.

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01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: I would have flipped.

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01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket, that's the wair.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: I like that. I mean, you know how much she

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01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 4: meant to me in real life being able to kind

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01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 4: of coach me after leaving this show having a All

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01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 4: my coaches were like grown ups, like moms. They were older,

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01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 4: but having a chick that's only like eight years older

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01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 4: than you, ten years older than you. Yeah, they're close

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01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 4: enough to what you're going through that they're not going

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01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 4: to talk down to you.

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01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: Well, and it would have been such a cool person

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01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 3: to have on the show because for anyone who doesn't

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01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 3: want to go to a parent with a problem, you

1104
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: have this older peer. It's like a real intergenerational friendship.

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01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: I would have really liked that.

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01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the right answer.

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01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: I love that.

1108
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: In a parallel universe, our cheer leading avatars.

1109
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 4: Are with her.

1110
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tiffany's the best. There's just nobody cooler.

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01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 4: Let's spin a wheel, all right. We have a most

1112
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 4: likely too.

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01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: Oh, most likely to buy a motorcycle without telling their partner.

1114
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: I mean he's not on our show, but that's your husband.

1115
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 4: He's literally walking in the door right now, come here,

1116
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 4: we just you know how we do most likely too.

1117
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 4: On the podcast we just spun the wheel and the

1118
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 4: question is who is most likely to buy a motorcycle

1119
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 4: without telling their partner? And Sophie it's like, it's you.

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01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 3: I said, he's not on our show, but it's Jeffrey,

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01:01:58,920 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 3: hi show.

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01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 4: I just bought a car with us. Oh stop it,

1123
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 4: get out?

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01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 3: What did he did? He really?

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01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, my husband wasn't on the show, but he almost

1126
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 4: was his uncle Keith. But is it Craig Sheffer then

1127
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 4: is a chef you know?

1128
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Scheffer would probably do.

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01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 4: That because didn't we see pictures of him riding motorcycles

1130
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 4: with his daughter Willow? Yes, yeah it's chef, it's uncle Keith.

1131
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't think any of the other boys

1132
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: ride motorcycles.

1133
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 4: Well, Austin always would show up to like lunch in

1134
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 4: La on a. That's right, he thought it was a motorcycle.

1135
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 4: I was like, Austin, what is this girl bike?

1136
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: Kerra?

1137
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 3: Well he had that old he bought like one of

1138
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: those cool old vintage Triumphs and I think it like

1139
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 3: never started and then he him and Patty did that

1140
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 3: trip to Italy and he was like, Vesmas are cool

1141
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 3: and we were all like, are they?

1142
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 4: I listen, I'm so mean to party all that, and

1143
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 4: that just means that I love him so much. I'm

1144
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 4: rough on him.

1145
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 3: You tease him the most, probably because we talk to

1146
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: him the most.

1147
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah, it feels right. Yeah.

1148
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: You gotta punch your brotherly figures every once in.

1149
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 4: A while because he's cute. He's cute. It's like you

1150
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 4: hit the cute boy. I'm sorry. Season six, episode eighteen.

1151
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 4: Next week, searching for a former clarity fingers crossed, we survive.

1152
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: The titles really make me nervous Sometimes I'm like, does

1153
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: that mean it's going to be a bummer. I don't know.

1154
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 3: We'll see, friends, thanks for joining us. We will. We

1155
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 3: will see if we get joy from Sofia next week.

1156
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 3: You guys, I'm never gonna get over it. I don't

1157
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 3: know why. It makes me laugh so much.

1158
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 4: You have to go. I want to go Sofia and

1159
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 4: Sofia me.

1160
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 3: And my town. I've never been to Bulgaria. I would

1161
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 3: like to go.

1162
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 4: If someone can find me a town named Hillary, that's

1163
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 4: your project, America okay, gonuts.

1164
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 3: If you liked the outdoors, we could get you a

1165
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: bunch of like snowboarding gear from Burton. But you don't

1166
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: want that.

1167
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 4: You want me to christ I would take.

1168
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 3: You, but I know you won't go with me, So

1169
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 3: it's fine.

1170
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 4: I'll go one day, all right.

1171
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 3: One time.

1172
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 4: You heard it here, folks, she promised, I love you.

1173
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 3: I love you, see next week us.

1174
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for listening.

1175
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 3: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

1176
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 3: follow us on Instagram at Drama Queens O t.

1177
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 4: H or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

1178
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 4: See you next time.

1179
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama. Girl Drama Girl,

1180
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: all about them high school queens. We'll take you for

1181
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: a ride at our comic Girl sharing for the right tea,

1182
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: Drama Queens.

1183
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: Up girl Fashion with your tough girl.

1184
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: You could sit with us Girl Drama Queens, Drama, Queens, Drama,

1185
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 1: Queens Drama Drama, Queens Drama Queens