1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: What's up, faithful, Welcome into the forty nine Ers You've 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: got mailed Podcasts presented by Delta Dental. I'm Undy pilaris 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: your host, and today I am joined by a very 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: special guest, four times Super Bowl champion, Mike Wilson, for 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: an and alumni edition of the podcast. Mike, thank you 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: so much for taking the time. 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me. Looking forward to having 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: an interview with you. 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: It's great timing to have you on the podcast. For 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: our listeners that were not at Levi Stadium during Week eight, 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: it was the forty nine Ers annual alumni weekend celebration. 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: A couple teams were honored that nineteen eighty one team 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: that secured the franchise's first ever Super Bowl title. What's 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: the best part of getting the crew back together? 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: You know what's great and you know, for me to 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: play with guys like Joe Montana, Ronnie La, Tina Turner, 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: Eric Wright, and the list goes on and off. 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: That nineteen eighty one season was your rookie year that 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: ended an eight season playoff drought for the Niners, brought 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: home that first championship and ushered in San Francisco's dynasty 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: when you started that season, could you have ever imagined 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: what was to come in Niners history? 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: No? 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: I mean, for me, it was everybody's journeys a little 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: bit unique and different. I was originally drafted with the 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: Cowboys and was their last cut and Bill Walsh called me, 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: and I flew in for a round trip ticket that 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: day and had to work out with them. And I 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: had no idea that I left Dallas to come to 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: San Franz and we would end up winning the Super 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 3: Bowl my rookie year. But there was twenty two rookies 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: on that team, and you know, like Ronnie Lott and 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: Eric Wright, along with a young Joe Montana. So we 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: had a young nucleus of new players that came in 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: with the attitude that we wanted to be successful and 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: try to. 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: Win it all. 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: When you get that phone call from Bill Walsh, what's 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: going through your mind? 40 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: That was awesome. 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: I had, honestly just came back to Southern California, my home, 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: and I got a call from the forty nine ers 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: saying come on up from late Billy Wilson, and I 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: flew up just planned on to have a tryout and 45 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: thinking they probably was going to put me on a 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: list of case they needed somebody later. But I felt 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 3: very good about my workout and sat in the locker 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: room for forty five minutes and they finally came back 49 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: and said they were going to sign me. So that 50 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: was the beginning of my whole career. I ended up 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: staying there for ten years with no interruptions and was 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: very fortunate, like I said, to play for Bill Walsh 53 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: and be on four Super Bowl teams during my tenure 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 3: career with the forty nine ers. 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: During that tryout, is there one play that you can 56 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: point to that sticks out in your mind as the 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: thing that left the impression on the coaching staff or 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: was it a little bit of everything? You know? 59 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: I really think it was just, you know, really just 60 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: one of those days where it was a great workout 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: for myself. I feel like I caught everything. I rang 62 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: sharp Chris Routes. Back then, I was a big receiver. 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: I was six three and two hundred and fifteen pounds 64 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: and that was before the bigger guys came along, so 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: I offered something that they didn't have. And also with 66 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: Bill Walsh's style of offense, he liked the big receiver 67 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: who could line up his tight end in the backfield 68 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: as a running back. So I kind of was very 69 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: fortunate and unbeknownst to me that, you know, I fitted 70 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: a lot of things that he was looking forward to 71 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: build his offense around. 72 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: You mentioned that you were a blocking wide receiver and 73 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: that's something that you actually had some experience with during 74 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: your four year career at Washington State. How have you 75 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: seen that become more of a norm in the NFL today, 76 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: especially with the forty nine ers who have guys like 77 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and Ray Ray McLeod and Brandon Ayuk who 78 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: are very very committed to the blocking game as well 79 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: as being these very skilled pass catchers. 80 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: Well, I think the philosophy and ideology of me and 81 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: I think the receivers today is, you know, every time 82 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: you go out and catch a pass, you have a 83 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: lot of the O line and the running backs are 84 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: you know, picking up the linebackers blitzing and blocking for you. 85 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: So in return, as a WI receiver with the run game, 86 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: you know, you want to give that running back every 87 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: opportunity to take it all the way to the house, 88 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: but don't allow that corner to make the block. So 89 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: I mean to make the tackle so you really take 90 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: pride in your you're you're blocking as much as catching 91 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: because it's just a part of the total offense system 92 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 3: that makes you a successful offense. 93 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: How much fun is it to be that type of 94 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: hybrid player? 95 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: You know? 96 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: For me, I was unique and obviously you know they're 97 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: like I said, there are big receivers now, but back then, 98 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: for me to be able to line up as and 99 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: we called it in a tight formation in a three 100 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: point stands and then go out and play wide receiver, 101 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 3: it was really gay the offense lot of diversity. You 102 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: might have saw me come in the game as the 103 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: wide out and I lined up in the backfield. So 104 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: for me, it allowed me to you know, utilize my 105 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: talents because I was a bigger guy. But more importantly, 106 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 3: I'll think in the bigger picture of it, Bill Walsh 107 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: had the ability to utilize and see what each individual 108 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: player had and what they brought to the team. That 109 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: allowed him to develop a system that allowed players to 110 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: play at their best. And so you look around our team, 111 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: with going back to the eighty one team long before 112 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: you were born, you know, we have the trading Solomon's 113 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: and Dwight Clark and you know guys in the backfield, 114 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: Paul Hopefer and so Charlie Young and Druss Francis. 115 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: I mean, all of these gentlemen who were very good. 116 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: Bill found a way to utilize their strengths. And that's 117 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: really what's important and thinking the scheme of your offense nowadays. 118 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 1: Perhaps as important as that nineteen eighty one Super Bowl 119 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: when that came out of that season is the iconic 120 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: catch from the nineteen eighty two NFC Championship game. You 121 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: were a part of that team, witnessed the catch in 122 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: real time? Can you relive that with us? 123 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 2: Oh? 124 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was you know, Dallas was America's team. 125 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: I had just on my personal level, had just been 126 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: cut from them. So it was really, uh, you know, 127 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: I had a little bone to pick, but honestly for 128 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: us to come back and allow us to win that 129 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: game with Dwight Clarks to catch, I remember there was 130 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 3: a sprint right option. The ball was supposed to go 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: to Freddy and they covered him and Dwight worked back 132 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: at the inline and came back. And you know, there's 133 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: always a big debate that was Joe throwing it away 134 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: or did or was he thrown it high for Dwhight Clark, 135 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: but Joe says he was throwing it high. Dwhite said 136 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: he's thrown away and he went up and got it. 137 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: But I think the whole city of San Francisco, you 138 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: could probably hear us down in southern California. Yeah, out 139 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 3: and screamed, and it really was I think catapulted us 140 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: into the success of the Niners that have today. I 141 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: mean we were the year before I think there were 142 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: four and twelve. I wasn't with that team, but our 143 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: rookie year, we end up having a great year and 144 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: that was the big game to get to the super 145 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: Bowl and definitely as one of probably the greatest plays, 146 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: one of the greatest plays in forty nine in history. 147 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Now your forty plus years removed from that iconic play, 148 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: how oftener you asked about just being on that team 149 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: with Joe Montana and Dwight Clark, You know, I. 150 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: Think I think that really is. 151 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: You know, every every organization and teams have you know, 152 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: iconic guys who will always be remembered, and that's a 153 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: historical play that you know that will be around another 154 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: hundred years from now. And it was great to play 155 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: with those guys because you know they they they were admitted, 156 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: and I distink that back then my mom and dad 157 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: were in the stands. Everybody just celebrate and obviously we 158 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: still had a little more work to be done. But 159 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: that play and the season we had that year was 160 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: really special. And out of all the four championships, four 161 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: super Bowl teams I was on, that one probably is 162 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: the most memorable and the most exciting because nobody had 163 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: any expectations or plans. Once we won that one super Bowl, 164 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: San Francisco got used to winning, and that expectation of 165 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: winning championships every week, every month, every year was a 166 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: part of the team and it still exists today. 167 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: You were part of ten seasons with the forty nine 168 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: ers and played alongside Dwight Clark, Freddie Solomon, Jerry Rice, 169 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: John Taylor. What are some of the best memories you 170 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: have with those wide receivers? 171 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: You know, I think in the meeting room, along with 172 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: some great coaches that coached us, from the late Sam 173 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: Wise to Mike Coram to Dennis Green. I mean, there 174 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: was some Sherman Lewis, some great coaches, and obviously the 175 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: Matt the genius. 176 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give him that credit. Bill Walsh really had. 177 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: A great connection with his coaches that can coach us, 178 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: and he really saw what our strengths and weaknesses were, 179 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: but really focused in on our strength and that allowed 180 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 3: us to go out and execute at such a high 181 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 3: level that all the NFL defenses could. 182 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 2: Never really shut us down. 183 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: I mean, there were some close games that we found 184 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: a way to win, and I think, uh, you know, 185 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: I was very fortunate to come along with d White 186 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: and Freddie early in my career they both retired and 187 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: then finished up with Dwight, with Jerry Rice and John Taylor. Obviously, 188 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: Jerry is the goat. He's one of the greatest ever 189 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: played a position. He worked his butt off, he deserves it. 190 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: And John Taylor was extremely talented and was a playmaker. 191 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: So I was very. 192 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: Fortunate to play along with those four men and for 193 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: us to have a success we had. But don't you know, 194 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: people don't realize that hard work it was. It was 195 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: a mental aptitude. Being able to understand what a defense 196 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: was doing and adjusting your routes and the ability to 197 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: be on the same page with Joe Montana was really 198 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: special and fun for us as players and for the 199 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: fans to watch. 200 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: How quickly did you realize the generational talent that was 201 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: Joe Montana as soon as you came to the forty 202 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: nine ers. 203 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: You know, I think Joe was still young and that 204 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: was his year, his breakout year that first year. 205 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: But he was so calm, cool and collected. 206 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you got to look at Joe's history. 207 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: Came out of Notre Dame, third round pick, not high expectations, 208 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: and yet this man accomplished the pinnacle. 209 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: He won four championships. 210 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 3: And obviously there are some other quarterbacks who've had great success. 211 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: The latest and just retired Tom Brady, but was awesome. 212 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: Joe really exemplified pois and confidence and more importantly his 213 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: ability to go out and execute whatever Bill Watas asked 214 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 3: him to do. And as a receiving corps and running 215 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: backs O line, we all bought into the system and 216 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: just tried to be the best we could be because 217 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: you're working your butts off and putting all that time in. 218 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: And this is what I always say to young athletes 219 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: and our coached in the NFL and collegiately, is that 220 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: if you're gonna put the time in, be the best 221 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 3: you can be. And I think that's what we tried 222 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: to accomplish in the four championships in ten years. We 223 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 3: really had an opportunity to win six, but we did, 224 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 3: playing six NFC Championship games, so I have. 225 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: Nothing to complain about. 226 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: Was very fourth in it, but we really tried to 227 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: set the bar and it's you know, known as the 228 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 3: West Coast offense. But we also had some great guys 229 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: on defense when I played those ten years, and defense 230 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: won a lot of games for us also. But Joe 231 00:11:54,320 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: Montana was amazing pleasure and I saw him and we 232 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: all sto keep in touch with each other. 233 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: I love that well as Star studied, as the cast was, 234 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: you don't get to four championships in ten years without 235 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: selfless players. You talked about everyone buying into the Bill 236 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: Walsh system. How rare is it to have athletes that 237 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: are more into the team mentality than the many accolades 238 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: that all the athletes on this team compiled individually. 239 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: You know, I think that is one of the most 240 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 3: profound questions I've ever had, because it really does probably exemplify. 241 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: What we were with the forty nine ers. 242 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I look at my career and yes, you know, 243 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: my egos checked. I mean I could have probably went 244 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: and played and called a lot more balls with other teams. However, 245 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: everybody understood their role and the ultimate goal was to 246 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: win a championship. Tribute any way you can, and so 247 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: for me to come in, line up as a tight end, 248 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: or run a route out the backfield, or just play 249 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: wide receiver, do what a Rocky receiver does. It was 250 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: really the commitment by all the guys to check the 251 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 3: Eagles and let's go out here and get this work done. 252 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: And we accomplished that in the eighties. That's why we 253 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 3: were the team of the eighties. And you know, as 254 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: I sit here forty years later, nobody can take that 255 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: away from us. You know, I know we're all getting older, 256 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: but it was a great, great run. And you know, 257 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: the Niners have continued to have unbelievable success and they're 258 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: on the on the verge of, you know, hopefully winning 259 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: another Super Bowl for the forty nine ers. 260 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: That was where I was going next. For this team 261 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: that has been knocking on the door of a Super 262 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: Bowl win. We're the past four seasons. What is the 263 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: final step to get to the finish line. 264 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: You know, I really think the team is outstanding. I mean, 265 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: they're playing good excellent offense, good defense. Remember teams have 266 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: you know, other teams have pro athletes too, and they 267 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: and and so when you walk in as with the 268 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: Niner shield and the Niner helmet, uh, teams are not 269 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: taking you lightly. In fact, you're going to get their 270 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: a game, their best game every week, and so you 271 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: really have to the top of your game. 272 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: But I think the Niners just need to stay healthy. 273 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: I think they have a good, excellent offensive system, they 274 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: have a great defense, and they have the player. They're 275 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: very talented. And so in my world of being a 276 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: coach with four NFL teams and also playing the decade 277 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: with the Niners, it is a matter of attrition and 278 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: guys staying healthy. 279 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: It's a long season. 280 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: And so if they can stay healthy, and you know, 281 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: as we get into the second half of the season, uh, 282 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: you know, correct whatever needs to be corrected and get 283 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: going again, I think they'll they'll be all right. And 284 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: I'm still a big believer in them. 285 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: Uh. 286 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: And those guys go out and play play hard. I mean, 287 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: you can never say the Niners didn't throw up to play. 288 00:14:59,280 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 289 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: Some teams have you know, some some weekends is not 290 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: your week, but hopefully uh, you know, winning is what 291 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: this game is all about, and they'll get back in 292 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: the win column and have some success. But I'm looking 293 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: forward to them. I predict they'll go all the way 294 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: and have a chance to win it all. But you know, 295 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: once again I'm biased. There are some Kansas City fans 296 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: on the other side saying, hey, we're waiting for you, 297 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: and that's a very good team. 298 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: But the Niners are doing well and I wish them well. 299 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: And you know, you just got to keep fighting and 300 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: keep getting better and keep working hard because that championship 301 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: is there's a lot of great former NFL guys who 302 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: never won it, let along going to an NFC championship 303 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: game or won a Super Bowl. 304 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: So uh, they have all. 305 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: The opportunity in the world to win it. They just 306 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: got to put the work in and and and we'll 307 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: be I'll be watching. 308 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: This twenty twenty three team has just hit its year 309 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: mark with Christian McCaffrey. From your perspective as a former 310 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: player are former coach, how monumental was the trade for CMC? 311 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: You know that was huge for him. You you remember, 312 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: you know he was a Stanford. 313 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: Kid and U to come back kind of home was 314 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: was was good for him. He's been able to stay healthy. 315 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: But I think he's he's one of the most talented 316 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: runners in the league. And now was just a matter 317 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: of him once again. This this game is about UH 318 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: being able to you know, have the longevity to the 319 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: last the whole season. And hopefully he can do that 320 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: and and and avoid any injuries or or and you're 321 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: gonna have injuries during the season, but you know, we 322 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: cooper rate come back and and you know we need 323 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: him in the playoffs. We're not at the playoffs yet, 324 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: but it's important that you know, the whole team, Samuels 325 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: and and all the guys can stay healthy and contribute 326 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: to you know, what is a really excellent offense. 327 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Part of that excellent offense, of course, is seventh round 328 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: pick Rock Perty, who is now QB one. What's been 329 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: the most impressive part of his game in his one 330 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: and a half season so far, right, Rock. 331 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: Party, I tell you just poised Calm. 332 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: I really haven't seen him get getting shook up, even 333 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: with some adversity. He doesn't show it on his space. 334 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: He just comes out and plays pretty consistent, solid football. 335 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: And my philosophy with. 336 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: The NFL is not where you start but where you 337 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: finish and so be it, mister irrelevant coming in. He 338 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: has earned his starting position and has had remarkable success 339 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: and hopefully he'll just get better every game game. And 340 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: you know, once again, you always got a thrown you're 341 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: saying healthy. I know he had an elbow last year 342 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: at the very end, but I think the young man 343 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: has a right amazing feature ahead and the Niners are 344 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: you know, going to utilize him to his maximum and 345 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: he'll come out and produce. 346 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: Uh. 347 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 3: He's surrounded by some excellent uh tight end and receivers 348 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: and running back. So I think the Niners have a 349 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 3: probably one of the most talented, skilled teams in the NFL. 350 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: So it's just a matter of them. 351 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 3: Once again, I keep saying it, but it's the truth 352 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: about stand healthy and guys continue to get better, work hard, 353 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: and execute that offense that is one of the best 354 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: in the league. 355 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: Mike, I have one question for you before we move 356 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: on to our fans submitted portion of this podcast. What 357 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: is one story that you feel comfortable sharing that you've 358 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: never told before within those ten seasons of being with 359 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: the Niners. 360 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a tough one. Uh. 361 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny as I reflect back and I'm 362 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: gonna go to the goat Jerry Rice Greates Wasson. 363 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: You know, Jerry never had many injuries. 364 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: And I remember one time we played Chicago on a 365 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: Monday night game and Joe had I mean, I'm sorry, 366 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: Jerry had strained his knee and it had really had 367 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: a shorter problem too. And this guy came on cold 368 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: in Chicago that night. I was starting at X. He 369 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: was a z came out and played played hard. And 370 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: you know, that's just one example of you know, everybody 371 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: knows the numbers of Jerry and how many touchdowns, how 372 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 3: many yards he had, but uh, you know, for me 373 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: to you know, played with him that day and to 374 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: know what he was playing with and there was you know, 375 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: a lot of people don't realize that some athletes play 376 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: with a lot of injuries and uh and they learned 377 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: how to go through it. Dwight Clark did it a lot, 378 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: and so a lot of players that I knew had 379 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 3: a lot of surgeries will come right back. But I 380 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: remember Jerry being the one guy who, you know, he 381 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: never he was pretty consistent injured, free or injured. And 382 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: I was just amazed because I've had a sprain knee 383 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: or some injuries and you kind of fill it, and uh, 384 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 3: he was. 385 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: He was pretty phenomenal. 386 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: On the On the same side, there was a Jeron 387 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: Taylor who was just an unbelievable athlete. You know, I'll 388 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 3: tell you one with John Taylor. We used to have 389 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: the forty nine or basketball team and we play around 390 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: the different you know, uh cities in California, and all 391 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: of a sudden, we're playing up in Stockton or in Fresno, 392 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: and John Taylor, you know, came down. 393 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: I never really played basketball with him. And the guy could. 394 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: Jump out the gym and dunk one time and put 395 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: his elbows on the rim, and I'm like, whoa, And uh, 396 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: nobody knew that. And I think you have to be 397 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: at those games, and not many people attend them. There 398 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: was a few people there, but what what an athlete 399 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: who just who had a vertical of probably forty four 400 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: forty six. But that that's one thing that always amazed me. 401 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: So whenever I took the ball out of bounds, out 402 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: too Analey JT. And he jump over everybody and dunk 403 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 3: and so we had fun with it. 404 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: So was this a. 405 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: It was a forty nine basketball team. That we used 406 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: to go around and and and you know, fundraise for 407 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: high schools. And most of the games were against the 408 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: local sheriff or a highway patrol man or the local 409 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: uh that high school's baculty. 410 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: It was not serious bass. We were not and you 411 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: have some serious games. 412 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: But it was there more for fun and the players 413 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 3: to get out in the community and sign autographs and 414 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: take pictures. 415 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: So it was I'm not sure if they do that anymore. 416 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: I'm not in the Bay Area. 417 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. I don't think they do that anymore. 418 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: Though, you you should ask. I mean we did that 419 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: was thirty games in offseason. 420 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: It was great. 421 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: Ronnie Lotte, everybody, kuld Joe came out, Dwight claim out, 422 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 3: and so we had fun with it. 423 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 2: And uh and I'm sure. 424 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: That that those days that that type of you know, 425 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 3: activities has stopped. Back then, we just would go and 426 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: play a charity game and and try to raise as 427 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: much money for the football team or whoever was involved, 428 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 3: and had a blast. 429 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: It was fun, awesome. Okay, we are going to start 430 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: with just a couple of fansubmitted questions. The lady from 431 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: Presno if you could replay one game from your career, 432 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 1: which would it be, Oh wow, Well. 433 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: We almost had an undefeated season. 434 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 3: We went seventeen to one and we lost to the 435 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers at Handlestick and they if the play could 436 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 3: be run again, and the ref would have took off 437 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 3: his blinders, he called a pi an end zone that 438 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 3: was not one, and we don't won that game, and 439 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 3: we'd have had we would have matched Miami with the 440 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: second team that had an undefeated season, because we did 441 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 3: go on to win the Super Bowl, and I think 442 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: that was at Stanford that year. But that particular play 443 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: really would have been special, even though I have nothing 444 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: to complain about. 445 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so you would go and change the course of 446 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: history there? 447 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: Uh that one obviously, Uh you ask the question. 448 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: I will say that that particular play would would have 449 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: made a difference in the history of the franchise. 450 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: It would It has just been probably. 451 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: We were very good. Defense was awesome. I mean that 452 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: those were the textall rentals and Fred Dean, Ronnie Lott, Dwight, 453 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: you know. 454 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: So, I mean we were Keena Turner. 455 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: The team was probably the best team out of all 456 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: the four Super Bowl teams a year, but unfortunately we 457 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: went our record was seventeen and one. 458 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: That's a very good record, nothing to be ashamed of. No, 459 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: we have one more question for you, Domingo from the Lakewood. 460 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: Did you have any superstitions or pregame rituals that were 461 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: a non negotiable on game day? 462 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: Wow? 463 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: I was? 464 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: You know, I was not the superstitious guy. I can 465 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 3: name a few on the team who were, but I 466 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 3: was pretty consistent. I just knew that if I knew 467 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 3: my plays and just kept looking at him, it would 468 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 3: be more instinctive. I think for young athletes, you want 469 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: to learn whatever your system is, and so it's instinctive. 470 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: You're not thinking while you're playing. The superstitious guys that 471 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: I remember sure of these two were. One was Heck 472 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: sau Reynolds. I asked, going back in today, great linebacker. 473 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 3: He would come in he was with the Rams, came 474 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: to us and we're having team breakfast at the hotel 475 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 3: and he comes in with his full uniform. He would 476 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: put his uniform on at the hotel and ride on 477 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: the bus fully dressed. 478 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: That was different. I mean, you guys did that? 479 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: That is different. 480 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: You're like, WHOA, Okay, but my god, the guy would 481 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 3: you know study film twenty four to seven and it 482 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: was one of the best. 483 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: If you really know NFL history, X R. 484 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: Reynolds is one used to look at. The last one 485 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: in the second one would be Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice 486 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: was the one where we would sit to get in 487 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: and Jerry would try on eight different pair of pants. 488 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 3: He would have the tape and tape his his you 489 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: ever watched Jerry, he played out a towel that he 490 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: put behind him. He would forward it, put it on, 491 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: they would adjust the socks and so Jerry was very 492 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: meticulous in detail and he just had to be right. 493 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 3: And he always told me, you know, if I feel 494 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: good and I look good, then I'll play good. And 495 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: I'd be darned. This guy was a perfectionist and get 496 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 3: kind of shoes up and you know, you really, I 497 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 3: really saw a lot. What people didn't see about Jerry 498 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 3: was he was He was committed and detailed and had 499 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: some strong, uh you know, pregame rituals that nobody else did. 500 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: I know. 501 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: I never tried on eight pair of pants. I've usually 502 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: wore the same pair for every game. But Jerry would 503 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 3: try on everything and put it on and take it 504 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: off and became game time he was ready to go. 505 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. 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