1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,120 Speaker 1: Tapping everybody. 2 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 2: Welcome into a Monday initiative Texans All Access from the 3 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: Today Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. Glad you are with 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: me tonight, and we're gonna kick off this show with 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: my good pal sideline reporter from the Buffalo Bills. You 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: can also hear middays on WGR one of the best 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: you're gonna find anywhere. We connected in twenty fifteen and 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: been pals ever since. And obviously my man Sal Capaccio 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: has a lot that he knows about Stefon Diggs and 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: thingured he'd be a good guy to talk about with 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: that and the AFC and Mahomes and everything going on. 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: So let's get to it righty here, Sal, Good evening, 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: my friend. How are you. 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: I'm doing great, buddy, Always good to talk to you. 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: And you know, we don't last that long in this 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: business anyway, at least in Buffalo. I'm in my eleventh year. 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: I think they owt the longest tenured sideline guy in 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: Buffalo before me, it was like three years, a long 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: time ago. I mean, there's been some interesting guy though, 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: like Jeff Burris did it for a couple of years 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: over the hill corner, Jeff's burst. 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: He did it from Notre Dame. 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he was on the sidelines 25 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: for a little while. But my our buddy Joebiscalia from 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: the Athletic he preceded me actually for a little while. 27 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: So we've had some really interesting people. Rich Gensler, the 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 3: ball they call him here. He's been in this role, 29 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: so it's pretty cool. But how long have you you 30 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: eleven years from me? You got to be close, if 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 3: not more. 32 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: It's the only way I remember it. 33 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: When you say your date, I remember mine because we 34 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: started doing it twenty fourteen, that's right, and I've been 35 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: doing it ever since. 36 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: And it's right. 37 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, had twenty fourteen game that was at Energy Stadium. J. J. 38 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: Watt had to pick six, and I remember, you know, 39 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: for sideline reporters, you know, your sideline is kind of 40 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: your territory. Yeah, And I just remember at one point 41 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: looking up and looking over and I'm like, why is 42 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: that guy? Ind of Bill's your Bills shirt and why 43 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: is he on my sideline? And then you kind of 44 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: pointed at your earphones and you point it up. I 45 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I got it. I got it totally. 46 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: You were having some some issues, and you know, we've 47 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: had a few of those over the year, so I 48 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: understood completely. But you and I really didn't get a 49 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: chance to kind of chat and meet until after the 50 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen season. We met at Combine and then obviously 51 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: we've been talking to chatting and friends ever since. 52 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: So I appreciate you coming on. 53 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: And obviously with the Buffalo bills, there's this Stefan Digs trade, 54 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: which I'm sure people in Houston are kind of curious 55 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 2: from your perspective, Sal. 56 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Hey, what was digs like? And b what or two 57 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: what did Buffalo people think. 58 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 2: Of the trade? I texted you you were in Australia, 59 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 2: you were waking up to it. You got like god 60 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: knows how many texts about hey, what do you think? 61 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: So I can only imagine what that was like, but 62 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: just your thoughts about the digs trade in general from 63 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: all sides. 64 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 3: So my wife woke me up at six in the 65 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: morning in Australia to tell me the Steffan Diggs got traded. 66 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: It was four in the afternoon already in Buffalo. We're 67 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: in the next day because you were a day ahead 68 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: in Australia, and I had my phone off because I 69 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: didn't want people who don't know them in Australia. If 70 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: they're gonna be texting me at regular hours, it's not 71 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: from me over there. So I had my phone off, 72 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: so I had no idea. I get up. My first 73 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: thought was it was it April fools. No, it was 74 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: April third, right, So I get up and I'm like 75 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: and by that time, John Brandon Bean was already ready 76 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: to speak to the media at four in the afternoon 77 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: in Buffalo and at six in the morning, where I'm 78 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god. So then I looked and 79 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: sure it up, bait I got. I was you know 80 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: how this works. Something happens and you get media outlets 81 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: around the country. They're just texting you, and I get 82 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: CBS Radio, ESPN Radio, Freddy Coleman is texting me. I 83 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: got all these people want to come on and you 84 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: in Cleveland, Chicago and all that, and I'm like, oh 85 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: my god, Like this happened hours ago and I was sleeping. 86 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: But it wasn't a total complete shock, right. I Mean, 87 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: this is something that I think everybody's kind of been 88 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: expecting to happen at some point, even though we all 89 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: didn't think it would necessarily happen this offseason. I certainly 90 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: felt once I got to a certain point this offseason 91 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: it wouldn't happen. But there was always a chance. But 92 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: the biggest reason for me, John was the financial issue 93 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: of it. The Bills are eating thirty one million dollars. 94 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: Like to me, there was just no way the Bills 95 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: were going to do that. Well, they did that. They 96 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: decided to eat thirty one million dollars in salary caps 97 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: based by trading Stephan Diggs. I mean, I have nothing 98 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: bad at all to say about Stephan Diggs as a 99 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: player in Buffalo. Of course, he was fantastic. I mean 100 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: what he did for Josh Allen's career to come here. 101 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: And you remember the Titans game that I'm sorry, the 102 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: Texans game, the playoff game in twenty nineteen that we 103 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: were a part of, and that was Josh's second year, 104 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: but it was He's thrown to John Brown and Cole Beasley, 105 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: and you know, those are really fine players. He didn't 106 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: have a true number one. So that offseason, Brandon Bean 107 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: goes out and he gets Stephan Diggs, trades a number 108 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: one pick for him, and it really elevated Josh's game. 109 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: Josh took the ascension to the elite quarterback he is 110 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: because of what Stefan Diggs, you know, brought to the table. 111 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: So I think for that the Bills will always be 112 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: grateful in what he did. I think there came a 113 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: point though, where you know, this is like any relationship, 114 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: whether it's personal or business, at some time you're you're 115 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: right for each other, but at some point you grow apart. Right, 116 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, the two sides grew apart. And 117 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything malicious on each ot, and 118 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: I think there's been too much made of that. I 119 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: think Josh and Stepan had a good r relationship. I 120 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: don't know if it was strained in any regard by anything, 121 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: but it doesn't seem like it was really that bad 122 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: or I don't think. I don't think Stephan want to 123 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: get away from Josh. I guess is what I wanted 124 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: to say. But I do think Stefan felt that, Okay, 125 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: it's run my course here and we haven't won, and 126 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: why is that? I'm getting frustrated Now it's time for 127 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: me to go on. And I think for the Bills part. 128 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: To be quite honest with you, I think they need 129 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 3: Josh to step up to be even more of the 130 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: leader in Alpha Male, And with Stefan Diggs there, you know, 131 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: with his personality, that's hard to do. So I think 132 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: that there's a lot of things that play here, But 133 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: I don't think it's because of Stefan Diggs is a 134 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: bad football player by any regards obviously, which is you 135 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: know why they were they were able to get, you know, 136 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: a second round pick for him, and why the Houston 137 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: Texans felt that he could still be really, really big contributor. 138 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: So with Diggs gone, can everybody run to Vegas with 139 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: a million dollars and make a lot more money just 140 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 2: by putting on a wide receiver at number twenty eight 141 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: in the draft? Is that an absolute FATA company? The 142 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: Bills are drafting a wide receiver on Thursday night? 143 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: On Thursday Night, Yes, at twenty eight. No history says 144 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 3: Brandon Bean's gonna move and probably move up. He does 145 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: this what he does. He moved up for Kyrie Elam, 146 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: hasn't worked out. He mode up for Dalton kin kaid. 147 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: I mean this is what he does. He moves up. 148 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 3: He is not afraid to make these trades. He actually 149 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: told us last week which was really interesting. John. He 150 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: said he had a deal on the table last year 151 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: to move down out of the first round pick up 152 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: really good. He said, I really liked what I was 153 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: gonna get, but man, I got Dalton k and Kate 154 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: sitting there. I really want him, And he said, I 155 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: just I wanted to go to sleep knowing I got 156 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 3: the guy I really feel comfortable with. 157 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: Right. 158 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: So that's what he does. Even if there's a scenario 159 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: to state put or a scenario to trade down, he 160 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: generally wants to go up and get the person he 161 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: really likes. Now that said, with this wide receiver class, 162 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: you could certainly make an argument that once the top 163 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: three go, which we all know, you know whatever, Harrison 164 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: and Neighbors and Adunze, if you can't get to Brian 165 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: Thomas Junior, which I think a lot of people think 166 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: would be perfectly fine for the bills. They'd love to 167 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: be able to do that even by trading up. If 168 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: you can't do that, what are you doing at twenty eight? 169 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: Are you sitting here and you're going We're gonna take 170 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: a guy? Are you gonna trade back and get more 171 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: assets and then come up with a couple more of 172 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: these guys somebody later. Who is more proper value in 173 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: that spot. I think that's the question we're answering here 174 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: in Buffalo. But to answer what you said, I mean, 175 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: I still would be stun if it's not a wide 176 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: receiver at some point on Thursday night. 177 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: So how much stock would you put in? 178 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: They're going up, and they're going up to get one 179 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: of those three now, to get from twenty eight up 180 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: to eight nine, and to find the right trade partner, 181 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: and to find a trade partner that's willing to make 182 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: that deal. 183 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it seems that it doesn't fit. 184 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: But what's the possibility of that happened to get one 185 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: of those three guys you mentioned Marvin Harrison Junior Rome 186 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: with dunes e elite neighbors. 187 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: Well, the possibilities are probably very very unlikely, but we 188 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: have to talk about it, right because this has happened before. 189 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: We have been referencing the Julio Jones trade on WGR 190 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: that was from twenty seven to six, right, and think 191 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: about all the things they give up. Do you think 192 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: the falcons are upset they gave up what they did 193 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: to get Julio Jones. 194 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: Of course not. 195 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: They got a Hall of Famer, they broke records. A 196 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: few years later, got their quarterback, became an MVP, they 197 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: went to a Super Bowl. Totally worth it. And then 198 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: let's remember there was a trade in twenty eighteen the 199 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs and the Buffalo Bills. From twenty eight 200 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: to ten, they get Patrick Mahomes. Twenty eight to ten, 201 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: they get Mahomes, The Bills go down to twenty eight, 202 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: they get Trey White, and then the next year they 203 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: get Josh Allen. With all those assets they picked up, 204 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's upset about making a deal like that. 205 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: It can happen. But man, John, I can't see the Giants, 206 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: even with Joe Shane and Brandon Bean's relationship. I can't 207 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: see the Bears at nine. I can't see a team 208 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: at anywhere around the top ten. Going all the way 209 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: down to twenty eight. That's just too much to give 210 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: up for a team. And if the Bills really want 211 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: to get that high, you're talking, of course, multiply second 212 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: round of this year, first rund of next year, probably 213 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: another second or third next year. The asset to pay 214 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: to get to get up there would be incredible now. 215 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: I also will keep in mind what Brandon Bean always 216 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 3: said about Josh Allen. The year they traded up for 217 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: Josh Allen, they made a couple moves. They went twice 218 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: up to get They had to make two moves to 219 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: get there. They finally at seven. Nobody said. They said, 220 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: why were you so aggressive? He said, because if it 221 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: doesn't work out, I'm not here anyway, so I might 222 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: as well see if I could get it to work out. 223 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 3: And I wonder about that. They'd love a dunesay, But 224 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: Dunzai falls ten, eleven, twelve. I think he's making calls. 225 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: I just don't think we'll get there now. Brian Thomas 226 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: at twenty somewhere in there, I think you can do it. 227 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: The one team I think might listen that makes some sense, 228 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: and it'll sound odd, but you mentioned him's the Chicago Bears. 229 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is the Bears have 230 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: four picks. I think in this trap, maybe five. I 231 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: think it's five. They have a very low draft capital. 232 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: Everybody knows about number one and number nine, but after 233 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: that they've got picked seventy five and maybe one other. 234 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: I feel like the Bears might be that one that said, look, 235 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna we got our quarterback, we signed Keenan Allen. 236 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: Maybe we can afford to go down to twenty eight 237 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: pick up some more draft capital where we need it 238 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: down the road. Now, it would have to be picked 239 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: from this year, which the trade first Devon Diggs is 240 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five second round er. So there might 241 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: be some gms there are like, look, I've come this far, 242 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to give up. 243 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: My picks this year. 244 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: But maybe that maybe the Bears are the team that 245 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 2: ends up wanting to deal because they want that that 246 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 2: excess draft capital that the Bills might be able to 247 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: give them. 248 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 3: Well, let me give you this scenario too. And this 249 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: a little bit of antidote. I think there's some trail 250 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: of breadcrumbs here. Okay, So all year, going back to 251 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: last year, we all believe the Bills were gonna get 252 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: a third round compick for losing Tremaine Edmonds. All right, 253 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: to the Chicago Bars everyone, they're gonna get an extra third, 254 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: extra third, extra third. It comes out in March, right 255 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: before the owners meetings. They get an extra fourth, not 256 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: a third. Well, like, wait a minute, what happened here? 257 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: So I asked Brandon Bean at the owner's meetings, like, 258 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: how surprised were you? Because remember they gave up a 259 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: third to get Russell Douglas in a trade, and he 260 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: even basically said, well, we're gonna get a third for 261 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: a Tremaine. They didn't get a third, So I'm like, 262 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: how surprised were you? He was mad, John, he was 263 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: mad they didn't get an extra third. They only got 264 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 3: an extra fourth. He said, it really was a major 265 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: blow and it really kind of screwed up our plans. 266 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: So then that being said, two weeks later they trade 267 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 3: step Nigs for a future. Second, I think he was 268 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: gonna use that third to try and move up in 269 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 3: this draft. Now the third's gone, you know what the 270 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 3: better way to do it? Then if we can't, if 271 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: we can replace it next year. Second, if you want 272 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: to move up, I think it's all leading up to 273 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: me that he's gonna want to make this move up. 274 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it makes some sense. 275 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, if you can't get all the way up 276 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 2: there to gain one of the three, Brian Thomas is 277 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: the next in line, and I think after that it 278 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: becomes the Texas wide receivers. How much do you love 279 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: Lad McConkey, and which I do, and I think he 280 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: would fit very very well with in Buffalo. With Josh, 281 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: I think that would be kind of hitting all areas 282 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: of what Josh does well. But it becomes, look, we 283 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: got Josh, do we want to go out and get 284 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: him a dude? And one of those top three those 285 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: guys are dudes. So I'm asked this question, and I 286 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: feel like the Bills are one of the most talked 287 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: about teams in the league because of this Dig's trade 288 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: and what a lot of national people are saying, Oh, 289 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: the windows closed with Josh. How do people in Buffalo 290 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: and how do you look at that statement that the 291 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 2: windows closed digs is gone. They didn't get much out 292 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: of von Miller, you know they really Yeah, the doors 293 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: closed on the Bills. 294 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: Your thoughts? 295 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: I would answer it this way. I don't think anybody 296 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: talks about the door being closed on the Kansasity Chiefs 297 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 3: with a quarterback that's just as old as Josh Allen. 298 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: And why is that? Because the Kansasity Chiefs replenished their 299 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: roster and they got new they got newer and younger. 300 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 3: That's what the Bills are doing. They're just gonna have 301 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: a new iteration of the Buffalo Bills. As long as 302 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: you have Josh Allen, you're gonna be fine. But they are, 303 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: they are going to have a different kind of team now. 304 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: They're gonna get a little bit younger in spots we saw. 305 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 3: Look at all the leadership that walked out the door, 306 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: whether it's being Trader, Free Agency, Mitch Morse, Gabe Davis, 307 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 3: micaeh Hie, Jordan Poyer, Saran Neil, and of course Stefan Diggs. Right, 308 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: I mean, like all these people that are gonna be losing, 309 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: but they're gonna have to replenish them. They're gonna get younger. 310 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: The window's not closed. They have Josh Allen. So I 311 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: think most logical people look at it that way, which 312 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: is why would the window be closed. You're just kind 313 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: of replenishing the roster a little bit. Sure it might 314 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: be a little different, Maybe there's some more challenges this year. 315 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: Could they take a step back? Sure, I could see that. 316 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: But John, there's the reason why Vegas still has them 317 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 3: as one of the top five teams to win the 318 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. It's the reason why Vegas still has them 319 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: to be the top team to win the AFC East. 320 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: You look at this roster up and down, it's still 321 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: very very good. I mean, last year we got robbed 322 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: of a whole year of Matt Mulano and Terrell Bernard together. 323 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: They're gonna be together again this year. Look what Roschuell 324 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: Douglas did in a half a season for the Bills 325 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: last year when he came in, and he was fantastic. 326 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: They still have a lot of talent. They still have challenges, 327 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 3: But you just mentioned a guy who's a big key 328 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 3: in X factor of this what is von Miller. We 329 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: don't know if von Miller can even get close to 330 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: what they thought he'd be last year coming back from 331 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: the injury. I think they feel really good. If not, 332 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 3: they're gonna have some challenges at edge. They like Russo, 333 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: they like Epanessa. They're not the guys that you game 334 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: plan for necessarily though, so there are some challenges around 335 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: the roster. But more than anything, I should think it's 336 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: wide receiver if you can really figure that out here 337 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: in the next week or so, and what you're gonna do. 338 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: I think we're looking at this team a lot differently 339 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: than a lot of people have for the last few weeks. 340 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: I mean, as long as seventeen still slang in it 341 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: for the They're gonna scare me no, no matter what. 342 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: And it's really not so much you know, slinging it. 343 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: It's is he gonna make plays that a pocket? Is 344 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: he gonna run? Is he gonna make big plays? The 345 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: last two times we've seen him in the playoff game 346 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: and then obviously up in the rain of twenty one. 347 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: I mean, when he needed to make a play, he 348 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: made a play. We just had no answer. And that 349 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: might still be the case this year when we face 350 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: each other here at Energy Stadium, we still may not 351 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: have an answer. I hope, Well, we've got better opportunities 352 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: to answer, but we'll see. So Chiefs number one in 353 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: the AFC. Who's the number two team in the AFC? 354 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: In your opinion? 355 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: That is, if you think the Chiefs are number one? 356 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't. 357 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: I do. 358 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: I do, as long as you have mahomes and read 359 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: and look what they did with their defense last year. 360 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: You know, I'm tempted to say Cincinnati with a healthy 361 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, but I'm just not sure. They're still losing 362 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: some we don't know what's going on necessarily with t 363 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: Higgins here and I think they have to do a 364 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: little massaging. But I don't think you can go away 365 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: from the Ravens, the team that lost in the AFC 366 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: Championship game. You have a two time MVP in Lamar Jackson. 367 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: You know this is they're bringing in Derrick Henry. Look 368 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: what they're gonna be able to do. They obviously Kyle 369 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: Hamilton in the middle of that defense, and what they've 370 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: been able to accomplish on that side of the ball 371 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: last year. So I would say that the Ravens are 372 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: probably the number two team in the AFC. I don't 373 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: think the Bills are far behind, if far behind at all, 374 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: but I would not like put up any fight if 375 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: someone said that, you know they would have the Ravens 376 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: ranked ahead of the Bills. 377 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Okay, where do you slot the Houston Texans in all 378 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: this mess? 379 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: I think the Texans are certainly a playoff team. They 380 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: showed that last year. They're probably the best team in 381 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: the AFC South, and I'll put them right around with 382 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: the Bengals. I think a healthy Joe Burrow is equal 383 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: to about what the Texans are, and I think that 384 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: you could put them pretty close to what I think. 385 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: I think the Bills are overall, I think the question 386 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: is about a healthy Joe Burrow, right, That's probably what 387 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: it comes down to. 388 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: For me. 389 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: I'm not really totally sure it they're but I think 390 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: you get them. So you get the Chiefs, I think 391 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: the Ravens. I think the next tier Bills, Bengals, Texans 392 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: all in there. I'm not ready to put the Texans 393 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: on the level of the Bills quite yet. We'll see. 394 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: I love CJ. Stroud, I love what they're building there, 395 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. But I think the Texans 396 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: are right there with that next group of teams. I 397 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: would even put him ahead of the Dolphins and the Jets. 398 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: You know, the Dolphins who made the playoffs last year, 399 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: the Jets. So I think you're gonna better than the 400 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: Dolphins this year. With Aaron Rodgers, I think they could 401 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: be pretty darn good. So I think you're looking at 402 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: probably that they're one of the top five teams in 403 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: the AFC. And if someone said they're three the Bills 404 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: are four, that's fine. I'm not gonna push back too much. 405 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: I think you still have to prove it a little 406 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: bit more. They're gonna put him ahead of the Bengals. 407 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have a problem with that, but I think 408 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: those three teams are right there. 409 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: You kind of got intued a little bit. We played 410 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: the AFC East, we cross over. You guys play AFC South. 411 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: We play AFC East, so you guys will be coming here. 412 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: We get Miami in Houston as well, and then we 413 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: go to the Jets and the Patriots with Aaron Rodgers healthy, 414 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: How good are the Jets? 415 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: How scary are the Jets? 416 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: Or is it one of those things where you know what, 417 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: I'll believe it when I see it. He blasted all 418 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: three plays in that opener against you guys, and they 419 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: didn't play. They still won seven games with Aaron Rodgers. 420 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: Where do you see the Jets with tow a tongue 421 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: of iolo? 422 00:16:58,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Where you see the Dolphins? 423 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: I think the Jets can be really, really good with 424 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: the healthy Aaron Rodgers. Now my co host, I'm wgr 425 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: here in Buffalo, sneaky Jody Biassi. He is convinced he 426 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 3: will not play a full season anyway because their old 427 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: line still isn't that good. He's like, he's forty years old. 428 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 3: Their old line is at the good and I think 429 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: that's a solid argument to make he is, but he's 430 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: still Aaron Rodgers. And I think the thing with them 431 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: is their defense is just so solid at all three levels, 432 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: and they're so well coached on that side of the 433 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: ball by Robert Salah. They have to get better coaching 434 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: on the offensive side. But you know, they thought Aaron 435 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: Rodgers would just fix everything. He should fix at least 436 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: some of that as far as the coaching is concerned. 437 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: I mean, they do need a little bit more of 438 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: a weapon. I think that's why brock Bauers is usually 439 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: mocked to them. You know, most of these drafts, Tua 440 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: in the in the Dolphins, I think you're gonna take 441 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 3: a step back. I think this is gonna be a 442 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 3: transition year for them, not in a positive way because 443 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: they got to pay to a Tyreeks a little bit older. 444 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: They gut to start figuring out the contracts to them. 445 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: But man, John, think about the defense, and they lost 446 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: all those things they lost, and the players that not 447 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: only they lost, but they're coming back from injury, Jalen 448 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: Phillips and Chubb, you know, And and you lose guys 449 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: in the middle of your defense, You lose Amian Howard 450 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: and on the back end as well. So I just 451 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 3: think that the Dolphins, to me, are ready to kind 452 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: of go the other way than the Jets. I think 453 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: the Jets should be better with Aaron Rodgers. I don't 454 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: know if the Dolphins are. 455 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: Going to be We got the Jets last year, we 456 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: saw him Deceummer and well, anybody that saw him after 457 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: three plays got a chance. I mean, you guys played 458 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 2: twice without Aaron Rodgers. Bill Belichick does not end up 459 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: with a coaching job. 460 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: Were you surprised? 461 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: I think initially I was. As it went on for 462 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 3: a little bit, it started to not surprise me much 463 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: and make a little bit more sense where because look, 464 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 3: the trend in the league is to go younger coaches 465 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: and relatability to a lot of these players and fresh 466 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: minds and fresh thinking. That's not Bill Belichick. And I 467 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: think that owners kind of saw that. You know, the's 468 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: going to want to do things his way. It's been 469 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: a one way of doing it. What I really did think, though, 470 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: was John that some team is going to value having 471 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick on their sidelines to break the all time record, right, 472 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: That's gonna be worth something to an owner. But at 473 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: the end of the day, I give owners credits. They 474 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: they didn't go for that. They said, look, we want 475 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: the best candidate possible. That's not Bill Belichick. And I've 476 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: always said I was kind of first on this, and 477 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: I got hammered for it, and I still believe it. 478 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 3: Like I would say years ago that I just thought 479 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 3: that time had kind of passed Bill Belichick by as 480 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: a head coach. I think he's a fantastic football mind. 481 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: He really is, There's no doubt about that. But I 482 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: think over the last several years we've seen it's been 483 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 3: mostly kind of Tom Brady covering up. Even when they 484 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: had Warts, they didn't have to worry about him because 485 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: they had Brady. That is not to say Bill Belichick's 486 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 3: a bad coach. Here's my hot take. You tell me 487 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: if you agree. Okay, you tell me what you think 488 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: about this. Okay, Okay, all right? Love it. Just you 489 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: and I talking ball here. So I've said for years 490 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't think Bill Belichick is the greatest coach ever. 491 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: I think he is the most accomplished coach ever. If 492 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: you want to call it greatest, Like who the best 493 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: is at their job, I think it's Joe Gibbs. Joe 494 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: Gibbs went to four Super Bowls and won three with 495 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: very average quarterbacks over a twelve year period. You give 496 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: me a really average roster, average quarterback with a good roster, 497 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 3: I'm taking Joe Gibbs over Bill Belichick. 498 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: Here's the other word you didn't use. They were three 499 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: different quarterbacks that he wants championships with. I mean, I 500 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: think that to me is what kind of blows me away, 501 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: because for all those years of you know, the Patriot way, 502 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: the Patriot way, well, when Brady left, we found out, well, 503 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: you know, the Patriot away had a lot to. 504 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: Do with number twelve. And I would imagine that was 505 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: a good day because that was one of the things I. 506 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: Thought about when he retired was, oh, you got to 507 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: be happy about that he's out of the AFC East. 508 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: But the Bills had sort of kind of turned a 509 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: corner on that where you guys had kind of flipped 510 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: the script. 511 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: For a long time. 512 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: It was, no matter what happened, the Patriots are going 513 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: to find a way to beat you guys. And then 514 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 2: all of a sudden that script started changing and it 515 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: never it never flipped back. It never flipped back to 516 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: the Patriots. They were not what they had been. You 517 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: guys had completely turned a corner on them. I don't 518 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: think you're out of the realm with possibility. I think 519 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: it's funny because when Mark brings up and we bring 520 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: up great coaches, Joe Gibbs is one of the first 521 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: ones he brings up for that reason because they had 522 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: three different quarterbacks and all not Hall of famers and 523 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: all different, all really you know, all three different guys 524 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 2: in some way, shape or form. So Joe Gibbs is 525 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: a guy that gets no credit for that, which is 526 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: very surprising. He created the one back offense, which is 527 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: what everybody uses now in a way to stop Lawrence Taylor. 528 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: So I think, what's what's tough to argue. Obviously he's 529 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: very accomplished. I think Bill Belichick might be the best 530 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: defensive mind. 531 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: That we've had. 532 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: He may he may that that I. 533 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: Think you could you could totally sell me on. But 534 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: when you look at what they were able to do, 535 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: I mean, that was a Brady led operation, you know, 536 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 2: and I think Belichick did a great job. 537 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: You still have to have that that guy. 538 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: But I think what we found out in later years 539 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: that you know, maybe it was more about Brady and Gronk, 540 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: and you know, having all the slot receivers they had 541 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: and all the success they had. 542 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: Look, I know they all played a role. I know 543 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: Nick played a role. I know Belichick obviously played a 544 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: massive role, the players they had. 545 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: Having Brady at quarterback, You and I probably could have 546 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: won us Super Bowl with Brady at quarterback, just saying, look, man. 547 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: Whatever you want to do, let's let's do it. 548 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: And I think that's gonna end up being down the 549 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: road the discussion with Andy Reid, because look, Andy Reid 550 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 2: want a bunch of NFC, got the bunch NFC championships, 551 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: got the one Super Bowl with Donovan McNabb and his 552 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: Eagles quarterbacks, he got their playoffs with Alex Smith Smith 553 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: and then he gets this wounder ken that takes over 554 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: and Okay, he's got Patrick Mahomes. Now, to argue Reid 555 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: has helped make Mahomes, but I think you could go 556 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: the other way too. Mahomes has definitely helped make Andy 557 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: Reid one of the greats of all time. 558 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: I mean, three five years or whatever it is. 559 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: They're they're so good for each other, right, Like Belichick 560 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: and Brady, there's just and that's the thing about Belichick 561 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 3: and Brady. They were so great for each other, they 562 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 3: really did need each other. But my example, I always say, 563 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: like in a funny way on the radio, is I 564 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: compare Bellich Belichick to Brooks from Shawshank Redemption. He was 565 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 3: institutionalized for twenty years and once he had once he 566 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: had to actually go out and you know, figure it 567 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: out a little bit differently. He couldn't do it because 568 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 3: he's so used to doing everything the way that he 569 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: kind of knew it. 570 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: And then that's that's a great one. That's a great 571 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: that's a great one. They definitely had They definitely had 572 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: their way. There's there's no doubt about it. How they 573 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: did things. We had, We've had plenty of Patriot way, 574 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: you know, employees in our building. 575 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 1: But I think what's been fascinating for us is to 576 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: watch how Nick. 577 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to say it has you know, changed 578 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: or adapted or whatever, but just I think everybody had 579 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: this fear of, well, you know, it's going to be 580 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: done how the Patriots do things, and you look at 581 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 2: what Nick's done, it's like, no, not not really, not really, 582 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: He's doing things the way that he believes best for 583 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: the Texans which is what they always say. 584 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: But I think he's actually been one to be able 585 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: to pull it off. 586 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I had this conversation with I think it was 587 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: somebody back in the building. 588 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: We were talking about this. 589 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: I always think this is fascinating because we can always 590 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: talk about the great teams in the league, but there's 591 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 2: always a team. Obviously, we were that team last year. 592 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: We were the team that came out of nowhere. We 593 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: came out of you know, three thirteen one. We were 594 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: thirty first in the power rankings. Nobody thought anything of 595 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: the Texans, and then all of a sudden we start 596 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 2: putting some of the pieces together. Great coaching staff, great coordinators, players, 597 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: rookies are tremendous. Man, look at that. We should have 598 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: seen it coming. We didn't see it coming. Which one 599 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: team in the NFL do you think about where you go? 600 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: You know, what a good. 601 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: Draft here, another couple additions here, Boy, this team may 602 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: not be this year. 603 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: They may not be the Detroit Lions. It was Detroit 604 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: a few years ago. 605 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: What team do you look at and say, I think 606 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: this team is one to watch in the next couple 607 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: of years. They could be the one that turns the 608 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: corner and gets in the playoffs and makes something themselves 609 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: that's really kind of off the radar screen. 610 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: Now I got one. 611 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: I want to hear it well. And first of all, 612 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: I would go right to your team there, Houston, but 613 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: they've already made the playoffs r because I'm a big CJ. 614 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: Stroud fan. By the way, my co host, I mean 615 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 3: my colleague Eric Wood, who used to be a center 616 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: for the Wills. As you know, Eric talks about CJ. 617 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: Stroud and he says all the time, he goes, dude, 618 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: this guy sounds like he thirty year old, eight year veteran. 619 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: He talked the way he talks sometimes it's incredible. 620 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 5: Right. 621 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: So anyway, we got a lot of respect for that team. 622 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 3: So Houston, the team I would choose the Atlanta Falcons. 623 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 3: The Atlanta Falcons have so much talent on offense. And look, 624 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, Kirk Cousins, he's not gonna 625 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: be in the homes Allen type of you know, stratosphere here. 626 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: As far as quarterbacks, he doesn't have to be though. 627 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 3: He's a really good quarterback though, but some numbers, but 628 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: oh my god, look at the talent they have an 629 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: offense with Bijan and Kyle Pitts and Drake London and 630 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 3: then they sell darnld Mooney. I think they grab too 631 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 3: right Ron Dell Moore, Oh my god. And then you 632 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: look at the defensive side. They need a little bit 633 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 3: of work. But man, they get an edge rusher in 634 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: the draft. They you know, they're they're a little younger 635 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 3: there they I think they can help themselves. And they're 636 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 3: in a division, by the way, that's there for the taking. See, 637 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 3: that's the same way I look at Houston right Not 638 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 3: only is Houston have all this talent, they're in a 639 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: vision that they can take advantage of. I think, considering 640 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: where everybody else is right now, I think the same 641 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: thing about the Atlanta Falcons. If they can kind of 642 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: get a couple of pieces here on defense in the draft, 643 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: I think they could take advantage of that in the 644 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: NFC out to be the next team. 645 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: My complete wild card is the Arizona Cardinals, crazy as 646 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: it sounds, because the Cardinals have a lot of draft 647 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 2: capital this year, and if they manage it right, they 648 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: can get more. And I think Jonathan Gannon proved lastly 649 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 2: like they gave us all kinds of trouble at home now. 650 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: I think they're more Detroit. I think this is a 651 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: year where they can get to six seven wins. But 652 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: give them another give him this draft, give them another draft. 653 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: I think Cardinals could be a team kind of way 654 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: from way back that could end up being being that 655 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: particular team. And we all know if Caleb Williams is 656 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: all that, then the Bears. The Bears could be a 657 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: team that they've got it. They've got a boatload of talent. 658 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: I just don't know that Eberflus is the right fit. 659 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's the right coach for them. 660 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: I will find out the other team. If you PLoP 661 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: the right quarterback in with them, they could they could 662 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: really be something as the Vikings. 663 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: I think the Vikings offense of talent. 664 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: The skill players are exceptional to really good tackles. The 665 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: defenses Brian Flores led, so they do some different stuff. 666 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: They get after it. I still think that defense is 667 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: not quite all that. But I think if they drop 668 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: in Drake May, somehow they move up to three, the 669 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: Patriots pick however they get there, they pick Drake May. 670 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: That could get interesting with all that talent around him. 671 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if JJ McCarthy does all that, but 672 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: I think Drake May could Those are a few off 673 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: the beaten path. 674 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, you know what's interesting about the 675 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 3: Vikings is I wonder even if that happens, how long 676 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: it'll take Because the pick the Bills got for Diggs 677 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: from Houston. Yeah, the second rounder is the Minnesota second 678 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: rounder next year. 679 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Buffalo, we're all. 680 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 3: Thinking, Okay, if Minnesota is not good this year, you're 681 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: talking about a top forty pick. 682 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: That's exactly the way we were thinking about it when 683 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: we saw that that deal that dropped uside of the 684 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: first round. We're like, all right, what did we get back? Oh, 685 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: we got Minnesota's second round pick. Well, this could be good. 686 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: They could be kind of lousy. But that's what everybody 687 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: thought about the Texans two last year. Everybody, what are 688 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: you trading that number three? When you trading that year's 689 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: picked for that's gonna be a top three overall? No, 690 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: it ended up being number twenty seven. You know, Texan's 691 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: bet on themselves, which is kind of nice to see. 692 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: Sakopaccio WGR and Buffalo sideline reporter reveling in the fact 693 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: that the Yankees have gotten off to a good start, 694 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: even though Aaron Boone's getting kicked out for saying nothing, 695 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: which is kind of interesting, and the Ashers are struggling. 696 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: So I even I. 697 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: Don't even know that I want to do this, but 698 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: how good can the Yankees be this year? 699 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: Good God, I can't believe I just asked that. 700 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: So, as you and I are talking here today, we're 701 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: recording a little bit they are currently and they've gone 702 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: what seventeen straight innings without scoring a run, So I 703 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: think based on that there's zero zero against the A's 704 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 3: after going extra innings with no runs against the Rays yesterday, 705 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: I don't know why I think they can still be 706 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: really good. And by the way, they're doing those without 707 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 3: Garrett Cole. They're playing close to seven hundred baseball without 708 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: Garrett Cole pitching right now. But they have to find 709 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: a little bit more offense because right now Judge is 710 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: not hitting and Stanton is not hitting. Now that being said, 711 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this. I did not realize how 712 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: really incredible of a baseball player Wan Soto was until 713 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: I watched him on the Yankees uniform. John Liz, I mean, you. 714 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: Don't have to tell this city man, they know. 715 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: Holy cow, is he amazing? 716 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely incredible. And I hate the fact that he 717 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: is a Yankee. But the city of Houston knows. Yes, 718 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: they know all too well. And uh, we hate that, 719 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: my friend. We do not hate you. 720 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: You know that. 721 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: I love you to death, my brother from another mother. 722 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming on with me, and thank you very much, 723 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: my friend. 724 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: You got it. Enjoy the draft. I know you guys 725 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: will and thanks for all your your work coming on 726 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 3: w g R when we've had geohn, I really appreciate it. 727 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: But anytime, brother, thank you. So boom. All right, brother, 728 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: that's perfect, perfect, That's exactly what I needed. 729 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: All right, man, sounds good, have a good show. 730 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: Where are you gonna be? Where you're gonna be for 731 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: the draft? Are you and Buffalo? Are you going? 732 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 3: Tobby in Buffalo? Just in the media room that night, 733 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: you know they were. My boss even asked you want 734 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 3: to go Detroy. I'm like, no, there's nothing happens there, 735 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: need to be here. 736 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: So now everybody asked me if I'm going to Troy, 737 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: if I'm going to Trim like I've never gone into 738 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: t That's right. I got seventeen and a half hours 739 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: of radio that that I end up doing that. 740 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: Like all the people are at the war room in 741 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: the city are. 742 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: In They don't understand that. They just know that. My mom, 743 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: he asked me Lilla in Wisconsin. 744 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: She's like, are you coming to Detroit for the John'm like, Mom, 745 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: I never go to the I never go to the 746 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: city for the draft. 747 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: How do you not know this? It's like, oh, I didn't. 748 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know sweets things. But I'm like, oh, I 749 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: love it. 750 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: All right, brother, great fantastic stuff there with my buddy 751 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: Soaka Paccio WGR Radio and Buffalo Antylo reporter for the 752 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, we get back, just dive into this draft 753 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: and what's going on with all things Texans going in 754 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: the lab. But Drew Doherty next right here in Texans 755 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: All Access. Welcome back this Monday initie of Texans All Access. 756 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: An off season episode of All Access and all off 757 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: season episodes. I brought to you by Mattress Firm, the 758 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: official sleep partner of the Houston Texans. 759 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: Spread the word. 760 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: You can score bonus savings on better Sleep during Mattress 761 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: Firms Friends and family sale. Hurry in to save up 762 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: to seven hundred dollars with your extra discount play get 763 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: a free adjustable base on select beds. I don't know 764 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: if there's any way to segue into mattress firm. It's 765 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: in the lab, but I'm gonna try because both Drew 766 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: dor and I sleep on beds. And there you go, 767 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: and that's who's part of in the lap. So let's 768 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: do it right now, me Drew in a lap. 769 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 5: Now I'm pumped. Man. 770 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 4: I don't recall like people ask me, wow, it's never 771 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 4: been this way, and I say, yes, you're right, it's 772 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 4: never been this way. However, it reminds me in a 773 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 4: way of the eleven off season going into twelve merged 774 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: with the twelve off season going into thirteen, because yeah, 775 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 4: thirteen sucked. Yeah, but there was a lot of optimism 776 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: that year, justifiably so, because you had started eleven to one. 777 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 5: You stumbled, but hey, you thought you added. 778 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 4: Some pieces that were gonna gonna make things better, but 779 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 4: you didn't have a quarterback you have now, and that 780 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: quarterback then, Matt Schaub, showed some cracks in the foundation 781 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 4: right later in the twelfth season. In retrospect, we see 782 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: it now, you're not seeing that you've got a really 783 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 4: robust young quarterback who's was at a higher level than 784 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: Shaw was then he's at a higher level than of 785 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 4: now and is only ascending. And man, you've added a 786 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: lot of weapons. What were the weapons around Shaw twelve 787 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 4: going into thirteen? Yeah, Andre Johnson and he was still 788 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: Andre Johnson was amazing. You added DeAndre Hopkins, but he 789 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: was a rookie. But other than that, Walter, Kevin Walter 790 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 4: left and Kevin Walter really you didn't see or hear 791 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: from him again he was injured in thirteen in Tennessee. 792 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: Owen Daniels played and was good, and it was was 793 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 4: Owen Daniels yep, but that was it. It was Owen 794 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 4: and Andre and rookie DeAndre Hopkins. You didn't have these 795 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: ascending guys like Niko, like Tank. Now you've added in 796 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 4: Dalton Schultz or readded him and Stefan Diggs. And it 797 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 4: brings me to this. We heard on Monday from CJ. 798 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 5: Stroud. 799 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 4: You've touched on this with VanderMeer, but we heard about 800 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: the excitement over John Metchi the third. Yeah, those guys 801 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 4: are working out and he'd love to see it because 802 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 4: this time a year ago CJ had locked down pretty 803 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 4: much and was just doing final thirty visits before the draft. 804 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: Now he's actually working with guys he's gonna throw too 805 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 4: in the fall. He's working with Tank Dell, he's working 806 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 4: with Deco Collins, he's working with Stefan Diggs. And John 807 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 4: Metchi was in the mix as well, and he said, man, 808 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: he looked really good. And it's something that bears repeating. 809 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 4: And I think we ought to dig a little deeper 810 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 4: because last year was Mechi's rookie year. He didn't play. 811 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 4: His knee was blown out and he was recovering from that. 812 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 4: He had freaking lymphoma and was coming off of that. 813 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 4: Yet he still he caught a few passes. Ransom Enda 814 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 4: Rounds was dipping his toes in the water, but he 815 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 4: was down the chart of guys who made big, big 816 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: impacts catching the ball as a receiver. What's it mean 817 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: if John Metchi in twenty twenty four, John looks like 818 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 4: the guy that the Texans invested a second round pick 819 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 4: in and thought, hey, we need we need this guy 820 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 4: to be a second round pick. We need this got 821 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 4: to be a big part of our football team. Do 822 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 4: you add him to that mix? 823 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, it's a massive It would be massive for 824 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: this team in some way, shape or form. I mean, 825 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: I still feel like Demico Demico hit on it, but 826 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: I think it it bears repeating. 827 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: You just can't have enough weapons. You really can't. 828 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: If you think about a seventeen game season and how 829 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: long and arduous a seventeen game season is, it is brutal. 830 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 2: I mean it is, Holy cow, Yeah, it's so long. 831 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: I mean it's long for us, we're not even playing. 832 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 4: We saw it at its at its zenith in that 833 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 4: regard in New York in the rain when you went 834 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 4: into it without tank, Dell Nico got hurt first or 835 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 4: second play of the game. 836 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 5: I don't think Noel Brown was kind of limited. 837 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 4: They just everything funneled over to knowing and he got, 838 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 4: you know, taken out of the game with that, that 839 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 4: excellent sea that if you have the all these weapons 840 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 4: at your disposal or you know, some of them, one 841 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 4: or two of. 842 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 5: Them is gone. 843 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: So what we talked, we talked a. 844 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: Lot about this in the fall, and you we'd look 845 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 2: at the injury report look and go, okay, well this 846 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: guy's an injury report. Yeah, okay, Well, as long as 847 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: we have two, As long as we have two we 848 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: have we have Robert, we Nico, we have Tank and Robert. 849 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: We have Nico and Robert. You know, however, you could 850 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: put the two combinations, you know, the three guys together 851 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: in a combination of two, you'd feel that much better. 852 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 2: You'd like to be able to say, hey, we want 853 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 2: to have three, we need to have three. 854 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: We got to have three. 855 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: And that just basically was the way of saying we 856 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: got to have more weapons. 857 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 858 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: Now, Joe maxon being. 859 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: Involved, Dalton Schultz continuing to be involved, obviously, Tank and Nico, 860 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 2: and then you bring digs in Digs, they missed but 861 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: one game in Buffalo, and I think that's that's something 862 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: that has to be kept in mind. Like you said, 863 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: Mechi miss rookie year obviously because of you know what 864 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: he was. 865 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: Dealing with with le Foma. 866 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 867 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: Tank missed five games at the end of the year. 868 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: Nico has made He missed a number of games in 869 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: the first two years. I think he missed a couple 870 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: couple last years, the Jets game, he missed all the 871 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 2: Browns game, and then he missed the Titans game, so 872 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 2: he missed it. 873 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 5: Otherwise he was magnificent, right, Golly. 874 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: But you have to prepare you have to. 875 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that the trade for Diggs is 876 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 2: some sort of insurance or that Mechi ends up being 877 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 2: that kind of insurance. 878 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: Okay, well we got these three guys with Meshi's insurance. No, 879 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: that's not the way match is looking at it. 880 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: I could promise you that John Metchi's looking at it 881 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: saying I didn't have the type of year I wanted 882 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 2: to have my first year back on the field. 883 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: I'm going to have that year this year. 884 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: And obviously more time you spend with your quarterback, the 885 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: better off you're gonna end up being. And so I 886 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: feel for him in some sense because it's the third 887 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 2: year physically he's been here. It's really only the second 888 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: year that he's been a football player really for the Texans. 889 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: But what if we always said about rookie year one. 890 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 2: To year two guys exactly they make and take that leap. 891 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: And if he's able to do. 892 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 4: That, it's the T word man tantalizing, Yeah, very much antalizing. 893 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 4: If he can do that, and he can, actually it's 894 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 4: actually your one to year two for him, and he 895 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 4: makes the leap like you're talking about. Because Demiko brought 896 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 4: that up right on Monday. This is a big year 897 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 4: for a lot of these these rookies. Ye're one to 898 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 4: year two. Yeah, you gotta lump him in there. I 899 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 4: know he's not technically a rookie. He was, so he 900 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 4: was a rookie. 901 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: It's I kind of just you know, Mark and I 902 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 2: have talked about things on and off the air, and 903 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: so I had walked down the cafeteria and walked back here, 904 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: and I just as I was walking, I was thinking, 905 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 2: and I happened to see MATCHI with Tank going outside, 906 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 2: and I just happened to think. 907 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: Even after the. 908 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: Digs trade, I still felt like receiver needed to be 909 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: on the platter, because this is a receiver class that 910 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 2: you that platters nice. 911 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 5: It's deep man. 912 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: There's Cavia over. 913 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: Here, Marvin Harrison Junior, there's you know, Filet Mignon over here, 914 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 2: that's Roma Dunes. I mean, you've got all kinds of 915 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,439 Speaker 2: things on the buffet, and you don't want to miss 916 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 2: out on a buffet. 917 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: Even if your buffet is really good. Back home, you 918 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: used to want some of it. 919 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 2: So I always thought, okay, maybe it's not pick forty 920 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 2: two fifty nine eighty six, but there's going to be 921 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 2: a receiver draft, and then I sell those two together 922 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: and it just for some reason, the thought and the 923 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: question crystallized. 924 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: N ask Marc. 925 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 2: I said, do you think that they might because it's 926 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 2: only a second year and what he's come off of 927 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 2: that they look at Mechi as kind of their twenty 928 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: twenty four draft pick at receiver, and I was like, no, 929 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: I don't think you can look at it that way, 930 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: because you still have players in this twenty twenty four 931 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 2: draft that are different from everybody else that you have here, 932 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 2: that are explosive, provide big plays, fit all size, shape, speed, 933 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, and you should want to 934 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 2: definitely protect for the future because you may have Nico 935 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 2: next year, you may have Digs next year. 936 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: So you've got to be prepared for that. 937 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 2: Not saying that you go take a receiver with forty 938 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: two or fifty nine even, but you've got to take 939 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: a receiver at some point in a really really. 940 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: Good draft, or receivers. 941 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 2: But Mechi is going to, if anything, take whatever rookie's 942 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 2: in there, and he's like, I'm gonna beat that dude out. 943 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, so completely and fully. 944 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: That they're gonna think about me as the number three 945 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: guys sometimes even the number two guy that I'm so 946 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 2: far removed from that that I'm gonna have that kind 947 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: of year. Yeah, and and hopefully that's what what ends 948 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 2: up happening. 949 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 5: Tantalizing. 950 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 4: T word tantalizing, because I still think you can add 951 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 4: in a rookie and yeah, absolutely, I think will why 952 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 4: not stockpile of strength make it to happen? 953 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: Strength? 954 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 5: So tantalizing? 955 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 4: All right, let's let's let's pivot a little bit to 956 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: a different playmakers spotted offense. 957 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 5: You brought up Joell Mix and what he can do. 958 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 4: A lot of people have thrown dirt on the I 959 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 4: think premature grave that is Damian Pierce. Let's let's just 960 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 4: best case scenario, Damien Pierce. The light bulb goes off, 961 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 4: He's figured out this offense. He's a piece and he's 962 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 4: a weapon in this offense. What does that look like 963 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 4: if that's the case, if everything goes swimmingly for Damian Pierce? 964 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 4: Because man, that guy was the like one of the 965 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 4: lone bright spots from twenty twenty two, what was just 966 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 4: a nasty campaign twenty twenty two. He was so much 967 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 4: fun to cover. He was such a breath of fresh 968 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 4: air on and off the field. What if he's a 969 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 4: lot closer to who that guy was than what we 970 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 4: saw of him last year. 971 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 5: What's that mean for this team? 972 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: Well, here's and I've had this thought of how and 973 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 2: Mark asked me this, how our defense is gonna game 974 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 2: plan to stop the Texans? And I think one of 975 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 2: the things that you have to do when you game plan, 976 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 2: the first thing you have to do is, Okay, what 977 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: do we want? What do we want to take away? 978 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: What can we not live with getting beat with? Is 979 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: it CJ throwing the ball? Is it a particular receiver, 980 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: is it a particular type of throw? You know, hey, 981 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 2: we're not giving him deep throws like We're just not 982 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: And there were teams that did that. They just said, 983 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 2: you're not throwing the ball deep on us. Everything's gonna 984 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: stay in front. Are they gonna take away Shultz sometimes 985 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 2: if he gets it's hot, What and who are they 986 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: going to try and take away? 987 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: From a week to week basis? 988 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 2: If you have Damian Pierce going well with Joe Mixon, 989 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 2: it makes that question that much more complicated for defensive 990 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 2: coordinators to go, ooh, man, I don't want to have 991 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: to play bass because then they put you know, twelve 992 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: personnel out there with Schultz and Jordan Brevin, and all 993 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 2: of a sudden you're you're in trouble because at twelve 994 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 2: personnel you're thinking, well, run game, and then all of 995 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 2: a sudden they put those two guys in there, and 996 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 2: you got a linebacker cover one of those two, and 997 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: you're eating. 998 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: Throwing the ball all day long. 999 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 2: You can do so much when you have that run 1000 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: game going, and then you could just get in you know, 1001 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 2: twelve personnel with whoever you want. 1002 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: Tight end is going to be. 1003 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: Hopefully Toreano is back and you put him on the 1004 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 2: field with Schultz. Now you're a true run blocking twelve 1005 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 2: personnel team or formation and you're hammering with one of 1006 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 2: those backs. But then you go to hammer oh, play action, 1007 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 2: one of those tight ends gets open, probably Schultz, but 1008 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 2: Quatoriano has shown in some play action situation last year 1009 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 2: before he was hurt Atlanta was a great one. You 1010 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: want to have to climb the ladder and one got one. 1011 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 2: That's the kind of thing he could provide. So you're 1012 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 2: making defenses, declare, how are you going to stop us? 1013 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: Are you gonna play a bunch of quarters or play quarter, 1014 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 2: quarter half? Are you gonna play man? Are you gonna 1015 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 2: double somebody? Are you gonna try and stay? 1016 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: And nickel? 1017 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 2: Do you want to be in your base defense? What 1018 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 2: you're gonna what you're gonna have are answers to the test. 1019 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 2: And once everybody gets on the same page and they understand, Okay, 1020 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 2: take a look, guys, look at this defense. What are 1021 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 2: they taking away? Where they're taking away Nico? Okay, let's 1022 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: be cognizant of that. Let's make sure they can't take 1023 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: away Nico because we're hurting them with other things. And 1024 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 2: you don't have that a lot in this league. There 1025 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 2: are some teams that have it, you know. But for 1026 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 2: a long time, the Chiefs when they had Tyreek and 1027 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 2: they had Kelsey, like, Okay, who you're gonna take away? 1028 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: Which one you're gonna double Tyreek? Okay, well, Kelsey's gonna 1029 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: kill you. You're gonna double Kelsey? Well, Tyreek's man a man, 1030 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: You're in a lot of trouble. 1031 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 2: Now the Chiefs have found a way to do it differently, 1032 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 2: obviously without Tyreek, and the connection with Mahomes and Kelsey 1033 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 2: is just off the charts. But the Texans have more 1034 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 2: avenues for how they can get down the road. If 1035 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 2: one is blocked, this other one should work. When you 1036 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,399 Speaker 2: have Damian Pierce. I think I would like to see 1037 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 2: Damien get more of all the passing game, and. 1038 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: That's a good spot to stop. 1039 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 2: That was kind of a deep dive on the offense 1040 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 2: with the thought of what does Damian Pierce bring to 1041 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 2: this offense in twenty twenty four. In fact, I was 1042 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 2: doing a talk with our ticketing office today and that 1043 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: question came up. What about Damian Pierson year three? Could 1044 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 2: get really interesting, could get very interesting. I do think 1045 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 2: there will be a running back added throughout through the draft. 1046 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 2: They just added a veteran. Who was it who the 1047 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 2: Texans re signed. 1048 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: We also kicks too. Oh, that just gave it away. 1049 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: We'll discuss that and more around the NFL next on 1050 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 2: Texans All Access, we got one final segment of this 1051 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 2: edition of Texans All Access, brought to you by a 1052 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 2: Mattress Firm, the official sleep partner. 1053 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: Of the Houston Texans. 1054 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 2: Spread the word you can score bonus savings on better 1055 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 2: Sleep during Mattress Firms Friends and family sale. 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Obviously, 1064 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 2: he started his career twenty seventeen with the Texans and 1065 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 2: then bounced around a few teams and came back. So 1066 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: so thinking about it from that perspective, twenty seventeen, I 1067 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 2: believe it was his first year. I remember a coach 1068 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 2: telling me that, yeah, he won't make it through training camp, 1069 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 2: and now he's working on year eight. So congratulations to 1070 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 2: Daria coming back to the Texans. There was a I 1071 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: don't know, want to say minor move, but there's a move, 1072 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: a trade in the NFL, and because it includes a quarterback, 1073 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 2: a former number two overall drafted quarterback, it probably makes 1074 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 2: a little bit of news. But Zack Wilson, former Jets 1075 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 2: number two overall pick, traded to the Broncos exchange for 1076 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 2: some late round picks or a pick swap, I guess 1077 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 2: in the late rounds. So Zach Wilson heads to Denver, 1078 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: which leaves them a quarterback room of Jarrett Stidham and 1079 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson. The Broncos will be moving up for a 1080 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 2: quarterback or that's what it appears that they're going to be. 1081 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of the Broncos, they got new uniforms. They broke 1082 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 2: out their retros, which are cool with those orange with 1083 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 2: the kind of lighter blue helmets. Those are pretty much fire. 1084 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 2: Those those are cool. But their new uniformsh okay, I 1085 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 2: don't know. Don't really want to get into uniforms too 1086 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 2: much because we will be out for their uniform reveal tomorrow. 1087 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a blast market. 1088 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,399 Speaker 2: So we'll do all access live from the location which 1089 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 2: you think is the Post, So we'll be out there 1090 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 2: for that. 1091 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: So looking forward to finally getting it out there. 1092 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 2: And by the way, ten o'clock tomorrow is the unveiling. 1093 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,720 Speaker 1: Eleven o'clock my math is correct. 1094 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: I think Hannah and Call are going to be on 1095 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 2: with Landry and Lopez, so make sure you check it 1096 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 2: out on Sports Radio six ten. Matt Ryan former Cult Well, 1097 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 2: really we know him as a Falcon officially retires. He 1098 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 2: been in a booth, but I guess he hadn't officially 1099 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 2: said I'm done. 1100 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: Well. He said that today. Fifteen years in the NFL. 1101 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 2: Matt Ryan officially retires at twenty sixteen, MVP two thousand 1102 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 2: and eight Offensive Rookie of the Year, hangs him up. 1103 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 2: Is he going to Canton? Oh that's a good question, man. 1104 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 2: We're out of time. We'll talk about that at a 1105 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 2: later date. He and Philip Rivers are probably eating at 1106 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 2: the same table. 1107 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: Okay. Appreciate you guys. 1108 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 2: As always, thanks to my buddy SalCo Paccio, Drew Dolready 1109 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 2: free to lab all of you for listening. 1110 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time, and as always, go Texans.