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Speaker 6: Yup here we are after a week away. Did you

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Speaker 6: miss us or what we missed? You? Scheduled dark week

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Speaker 6: for the Antiki Florian podcast last week. Hope everybody enjoyed

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Speaker 6: the holiday. We give the staff two or three weeks

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Speaker 6: It is episode five, pin fifty eight of the antikip

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Speaker 6: Florent Podcast, presented by DraftKings DraftKings. The crown is yours,

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Speaker 6: Ken Float. It's good to see you, man. How we doing.

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Speaker 6: We will have seven UFC three eighteen Holloway v. Pooria

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Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred percent, man, And again, this is a

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Speaker 7: Whenever you even begin to think that you know, Derek

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Speaker 6: He is a man, he is forty. And this stat

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's crazy stat. I hadn't heard that. I hadn't

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Speaker 7: seen that. You know, it makes sense now, you know.

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Speaker 7: I think if you're a Brazilian fighter, do not accept

433
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Speaker 7: any made events guys, please the Comaine. Maybe, but that's it,

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Speaker 7: that is it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: You know there's always these weird trends that happened in

437
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Speaker 7: the sport and you're like, what is going on?

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Speaker 6: What's happening? I don't know. Yeah, I don't really think

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Speaker 6: it means much. But my goodness, that was just crazy

440
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Speaker 6: going through it this morning, and indeed it was facts.

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Speaker 6: All right, let us get into some other stuff. UFC

442
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Speaker 6: Fight Night, Lewis versus to share a so Ray Longo

443
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Speaker 6: coming up in four minutes. By the way, Gabriel Bonfiene

444
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Speaker 6: over Stephen under Boy Thompson by split decision the Komain event.

445
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Speaker 6: What a heck of a fight, Camflow. I mean, it

446
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 6: was a great fight. Could have gone either way. A

447
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 6: lot of people felt like Stephen water Boy Thompson deserved

448
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Speaker 6: the decision. Certainly showed you a lot of metal and toughness.

449
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Speaker 6: And as his family member and the great former Middleway

450
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Speaker 6: champion Chris Widman said, you know, as soon as his

451
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Speaker 6: shin was split to the bone, he started throwing that

452
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Speaker 6: thing even harder with moore miles per hour. He did.

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Speaker 7: He did, man, you know wonder Boys, one of those

454
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Speaker 7: guys again, do not judge a book by its cover. Yes,

455
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Speaker 7: he's this good looking kid, you see, like you know

456
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Speaker 7: Yoka Shure. He's he's skillful, and he's talented all this stuff,

457
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Speaker 7: But what happens if he gets hurt?

458
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Speaker 6: The dude is tough as nails.

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Speaker 7: He's willing to die in the octagon, and that was

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Speaker 7: just another example. Of course you go back, you could

461
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Speaker 7: watch the Woodleigh fights or any of the fights after

462
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Speaker 7: that where he showed his toughness. But uh man, that

463
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Speaker 7: was wild. I did think he won. He won that fight, John.

464
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Speaker 7: I thought the most significant strike of that fight was

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Speaker 7: that kick that he threw to the head of bom Fim,

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Speaker 7: and he was certainly rock Other than that, it really

467
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Speaker 7: was kind of them kind of tangling in the clinch,

468
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Speaker 7: not a whole lot going on, you know, kind of

469
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Speaker 7: chippy strikes back and forth. It wasn't like the volume

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Speaker 7: of bomb Fime was that overwhelming where you're like, oh,

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Speaker 7: you know, well bomb Fiam did it with with volume,

472
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Speaker 7: or he did it with the pressure of backing wonder

473
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Speaker 7: Boy up, and he really put pressed wonder Boys back

474
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Speaker 7: up against that cage Like that was not more significant

475
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Speaker 7: than that kick up stair, So for me, I would

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Speaker 7: have had wonder Boy winning either way. It was a

477
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Speaker 7: fantastic fight. Kudos to Bombfied for eating a lot of

478
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Speaker 7: those shots. That was not the only time he got

479
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Speaker 7: hurt in that fight. Yeah, I thought it was Bombfim

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Speaker 7: Round one and wonder Boy Round two and three is

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Speaker 7: how I scored it.

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Speaker 6: But man, what a fight back and forth. How about that.

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Speaker 7: Cut, dude, you could have put some change in that

484
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Speaker 7: little yeah, but he had in his chin and his shin.

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Speaker 5: Huh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, nasty. I don't know if people still use silver coins,

487
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Speaker 6: but yeah, you can put your change right in there.

488
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Speaker 6: So yeah, I had it the same way for Stephen

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Speaker 6: WonderBoy Thompson. And when Bond theme is clinching in the

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Speaker 6: third round and the commentators sort of say, you know,

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Speaker 6: Stephen Thompson, you gotta be careful. You don't want to

492
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Speaker 6: end up here. You're going to lose the round. I'm thinking, like,

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Speaker 6: well no, but like yes right, like no, because it's

494
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Speaker 6: an effective striking round. There isn't really anything appreciable going

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Speaker 6: on in the grappling, So I think the commentary is

496
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Speaker 6: correct in some part. But what they're really trying to

497
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Speaker 6: say is that you don't want to risk spending ninety

498
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Speaker 6: seconds here. But I think the messaging that needs to

499
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Speaker 6: go to the audience really is and I'm not trying

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Speaker 6: to criticize the commentary, but that it's an effective striking

501
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Speaker 6: round and you can't just like survive and like run

502
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Speaker 6: clock late and all of a sudden make it an

503
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Speaker 6: effective grappling round just because there's maybe a somewhat significant

504
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Speaker 6: amount of time twenty eight percent of the So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I thought, you know, and when the old guys lose,

506
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Speaker 6: it's sort of like, oh man, they won, like they

507
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Speaker 6: should win.

508
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Speaker 7: I know, I know that was so close Ben, that

509
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Speaker 7: one's gonna hurt. But you know, wonder Boy's still the man.

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Speaker 6: Dude.

511
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Speaker 7: To see him fighting at this high level, still top

512
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 7: twelve in that stacked welterweight division, is impressive as hell.

513
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 7: He's still going to have a legendary career and it's

514
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 7: just great to see him go out there and compete

515
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 7: extremely well at that age.

516
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Speaker 6: And you know who else has heart. Gabriel Bonfime, right

517
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 6: was hurt in this fight, and another guy who has

518
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 6: shown you his medal every step of the way. And

519
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Speaker 6: I oftentimes say this, but Blah Muhammad back in the

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Speaker 6: day when he wasn't a champion. I think before the

521
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Speaker 6: Gilbert Burns fight, he was asked about the most dangerous

522
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Speaker 6: guys going forward. He said, im a shadow. Gary and

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Speaker 6: Gabrielle bonfeme is two of the young guys and Bonfime

524
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Speaker 6: isn't necessarily there yet, but you know he gets the

525
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Speaker 6: for him over WB. I'm sure long Ago has thoughts

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Speaker 6: time for the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 3: Is now time for the Ray Long Minute.

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Speaker 2: Hole in.

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Speaker 5: The Ray Long No.

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Speaker 3: Minute, the John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 6: He is not an Azerbaijan. He is not in China.

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Speaker 6: He is in New York. Wow, good to see you.

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Speaker 5: Ask you something to Becky. Your knees actually smell.

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Speaker 5: My no, okay, I just want to make sure.

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Speaker 6: Any further questions your honor, because I.

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Speaker 5: Got a spot on my forum. I need that. Man though, Hey,

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Speaker 5: nice to see you, so nice to see you. Wait,

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Speaker 5: what is uh my screen is very small. I could

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Speaker 5: barely see you, guys. Is there anything I could do? Oh?

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Speaker 5: There it is? Sorry about that. They got it. There

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Speaker 5: we go.

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Speaker 6: So, yeah, you do last Monday without the show? Do

575
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 6: you remember.

576
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 5: What was that fourth of July?

577
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Speaker 6: It was July seventh. Yeah, the Monday after the Fourth

578
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 6: of July weekend.

579
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Speaker 5: I'm sure I did whatever the hell I always do,

580
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 5: say the same thing. My my routine doesn't change much, John,

581
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Speaker 5: I got a very boring life at this point.

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Speaker 6: Kenny, what did you do without the Anakin Floring podcast

583
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 6: last week? Did you just do some more practical shooting

584
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 6: or something I did? Well? I did some of that.

585
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's say I went down to the beach in

586
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Speaker 7: South Carolina h out with the family.

587
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw some fireworks.

588
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 7: Didn't get a chance to go to the beach, but

589
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 7: it definitely enjoyed some hot weather.

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Speaker 6: Nice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So, my dad's favorite movie was Spaceballs. Have you guys

593
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Speaker 6: seen the movie? Spaceballs. Yes, yes, I know a lot

594
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 6: of our audience is like what No, I'm sixteen anyway,

595
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 6: So there's a Spaceballs two coming out. Yeah, and we're

596
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 6: sort of like spoof like movies. Right, So that brings

597
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 6: me to the Naked Gun, right, Leslie Nielsen, may he

598
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Speaker 6: rest in peace, certifiable genius as a comic actor, right,

599
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Speaker 6: I mean, and for Liam Neeson now in this Naked

600
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Speaker 6: Gun remake, you know all the best right in trying

601
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Speaker 6: to capture some of that, right, right, everything okay with

602
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Speaker 6: your top piece there, you gotta go to Turkey.

603
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to Turkey, trust me?

604
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Speaker 6: Are you Jenny?

605
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 5: How we do with that? Kenny hadn't work out good?

606
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: Heads a little itchy.

607
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Speaker 7: I finally got a chance to cut my hair, so

608
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Speaker 7: I got like shorter hair, you know, but it's starting

609
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 7: to like there's a there's a phase where it starts

610
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Speaker 7: to fall out.

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Speaker 6: So all that hair, You're.

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Speaker 5: Like, it's back.

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Speaker 7: That's great, It's starting to grow. It falls out and

614
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 7: then regrows. So I'm like, you know, it starts growing

615
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Speaker 7: back in about three months. And enough about my head

616
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Speaker 7: for people.

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Speaker 5: I'm just curious. You got to keep me in the

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Speaker 5: loop on that I'm going.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll keep you posting. Yeah, I mean, Ray, I

620
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Speaker 6: mean you know what I say, when your hair is

621
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Speaker 6: all over the place, you look like you living on

622
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Speaker 6: a bus in a last week Every time, that line

623
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Speaker 6: just works. Every time it's getting bad.

624
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Speaker 5: And he asked me what I did last Monday?

625
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Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, yeah, I don't know if it was Lil

626
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 6: Wayne who said he can't remember any of his songs,

627
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 6: but that's like me trying to remember like a Lucas

628
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Speaker 6: Dretski fight for this weekend. I'm like, what, dude, like

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Speaker 6: he's six seven, why can't you remember? Anyway? The Naked

630
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Speaker 6: Gun remake, right, Yes, I play myself in the movie,

631
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Speaker 6: and I'm gonna get the chance to uh to take

632
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Speaker 6: my daughter Riley to the premiere in New York City

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Speaker 6: on July twenty eighth, which is very exciting, right, that

634
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Speaker 6: is awesome.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 6: Heck ye, but uh yeah, I'm gonna stop down there

637
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 6: because I don't know what I can or can't say,

638
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 6: but it's it's very exciting. And we'll see the extent

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Speaker 6: to which Michael Bisping and I some of our some

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Speaker 6: of our lines have been cut, we have been told,

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Speaker 6: but that's.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that good. That's great. John.

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Speaker 6: Well, initially we were Chet and Bob, and then the

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Speaker 6: great director Kiev Akiva Schaeffer came to us one day

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Speaker 6: and he said, I think would actually be more authentic

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Speaker 6: if you were John Anak and Michael bisbeing so they

647
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 6: took the names Chet and Bob off our trailers and

648
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 6: there too, four we played ourselves anyway, enough about that.

649
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 5: Chet and Bob would have been funny too, though.

650
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 6: I know, but there's not like we're calling ourselves Chet

651
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 6: and Bob all that often, you know. Yeah, yeah, I

652
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 6: do think Chet and Bob would have been pretty hilarious.

653
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 6: Yeah he was, Oh he was Chet. Was he gonna

654
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 6: have an American accent? Or how is he gonna?

655
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 5: No?

656
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 6: He uh? Oh right yeah the Chet right? Yeah American? Yeah?

657
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 6: Uh And the the third member of our broadcast team

658
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 6: is Wilbur Fitzgerald. I don't know if you know him,

659
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 6: but he was an anchorman too. Had a scene with

660
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 6: Will Ferreland. Is a very good in his own right.

661
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 6: All right, Raymond, A lot to talk about, right, you know.

662
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 6: We we opened the show talking about Ben Askrin. I mean,

663
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 6: who just had higher heart of this m M A

664
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 6: community in full force behind him, you know, just uh,

665
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 6: just crazy to see sort of one of our own

666
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 6: who did seemingly everything right in so many respects. When

667
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 6: it comes to his health, you know, dealing with something

668
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 6: like this, I.

669
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 5: Tell you, what an unfortunate situation. But men, I can't

670
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 5: say I know Ben. But I mean, he's always just

671
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 5: had humility and he was always a humble guy. Could

672
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 5: was able to laugh at himself, and he thought he

673
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 5: was just from the outskirts, Like without knowing him, I

674
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 5: just thought he was a great guy. I loved to

675
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 5: even no matter what you thought about him fighting or

676
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 5: however to fight, when he always gave you a really honest,

677
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 5: heartfelt explanation or what he thought was going on. And

678
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 5: I'll always that's what I think about when I think

679
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: about the guy. And when you hear him talk about wrestling,

680
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 5: obviously you know he's on another level. He's got that

681
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 5: down to his science. He does a great job with

682
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 5: the kids, and but but even when he would talk

683
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 5: about his fighting, man, he just, uh, I think that's

684
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 5: a good dude.

685
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 6: Man.

686
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 5: Without knowing him, Yeah, my assessment, I think.

687
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 6: No, And it's a great assessment. And I'm so glad

688
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 6: you added that to the conversation because yes, self deprecating

689
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 6: able to just be so comfortable in his own skin

690
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 6: in terms of right real article, what you see is

691
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 6: what you get. Yeah, askern's the mat all right? So

692
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 6: any thoughts on the UFC fight not I kind of

693
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 6: want to get your thoughts on Stephen Thompson. We can

694
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 6: get to Derek Lewis in a minute, but I know

695
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 6: you're close to WB and Terray and a lot of

696
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 6: people thought he won the fight. Certainly fought valiantly. Any

697
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 6: thoughts on the comin.

698
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 5: Event to fight, I think easy fight to score, you

699
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: know what, you know what the problem is, I haven't

700
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 5: like again it's conspiratorial, but if if Steven was thirty

701
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 5: four years old and he was on the come up,

702
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 5: he's winning that fight. They give it to him. That's

703
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 5: my honest belief. It's almost like pimbled against Jared Gordon.

704
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 5: I mean, the guy went in in the third round

705
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 5: trying not to fight, not even to try to take

706
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 5: him down, And the only damage in the third round

707
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 5: I believe was done by wonder boy Thompson, and that's

708
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 5: why he wins that fight. If you go on damage,

709
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 5: he's the guy with the damage. The other guy just

710
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 5: they they fucked that up. I'm not I'm not saying

711
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 5: complete robbery, but it's a robbery based on the criteria.

712
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 5: He did the damage. The other guy went out there

713
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 5: not to fight, and I don't know how you give

714
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 5: that guy to fight. I just don't know how.

715
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was a little confused by it.

716
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 7: But you know, Ray, do you think Wonder Boy can

717
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 7: still I mean, based on that performance, do you think

718
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 7: he can still fight at the lead level?

719
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 6: Would you want to see more of him?

720
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 5: I think, Look, you know, I'm going to keep it

721
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 5: in perspective. How old is Wonder Boy now? Forty one,

722
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 5: forty two? Well, I think he's how old is he?

723
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 6: John Head somewhere around there all look at I.

724
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 5: Think it's fantastic what he's doing, and he proves he

725
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 5: can compete at that level. I mean, but if you're

726
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 5: a promotion Kenny, is that the guy you want to

727
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 5: put you know, you want to put all your riggs

728
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 5: in that basket. So by the time he gets a

729
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 5: title shot, he's forty seven. But as far as a

730
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: human interest stories, he's absolutely phenomenal. And for a guy

731
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 5: forty one, forty two years old, Yeah, he looked fucking

732
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 5: pretty good. Man, he looked really good in that fight.

733
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 5: Agains he's going to.

734
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 6: Be catching up to in February, right, Like, he's still

735
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 6: wicked competitive, I think.

736
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 5: But I mean he rocked that guy. I mean he's

737
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 5: he put that guy on skates and uh and that's

738
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 5: an up and coming, big strong dude, got momentum on

739
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 5: his side, he got he lost that fight. How how

740
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 5: how did that fight benefit bon Fime, Like we could

741
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 5: talk about how it benefited Thompson. He's forty two. What

742
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 5: a performance? You know? Put him on ice skates a

743
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 5: little bit there in the second round. I don't know.

744
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: Take down defense held up pretty good. He wasn't acquiescent

745
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 5: when even he hit the floor, he was still fighting

746
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 5: his way back up. His shit gets busted open, which

747
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 5: isn't a pleasant injury when you shouldn't splits like that. Yeah,

748
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 5: still ticking with it. That guy won the fight, hands down.

749
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: I think. I think it's almost disgraceful and disgraceful in

750
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 5: that way. But come on, man, he did what he

751
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 5: had to do to win that fight.

752
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, and just like sorry, go ahead, John, No, I

753
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 6: was just gonna say the value for bon theme I

754
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 6: think is that he got hurt and thought through it

755
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 6: and is able to learn and somehow escape with a

756
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 6: win that maybe some didn't think he deserved.

757
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 7: That. Yeah, I'll go with and before John jumps right

758
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 7: back in with a question for you, right, I guess

759
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 7: the other thing he's got to watch out for too,

760
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 7: is now with that cut, just similar to Luke Rockol,

761
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 7: there is a staff infection because that thing is so

762
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 7: opened up. He was kicking the body, the sweaty, dirty

763
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 7: body of bunk me repeatedly, after all again at the

764
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 7: end of the night, after all those fighters have been

765
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 7: in there in the cage. Uh, he really has to

766
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 7: be careful make sure that doesn't turn into a massive

767
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 7: staff infection.

768
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 6: So he's not out of the not out of the

769
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 6: weeds yet.

770
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, one, Milly, and I've seen that injury a lot.

771
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 5: It's it's it's way more wicked than it even looked

772
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 5: like on TV. It's hard, they're hard to heal those things,

773
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: and he's got to really, really, really be careful.

774
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 6: Ray, I was just gonna say and sort of putting

775
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 6: a bow on the scoring and I wouldn't necessarily pin

776
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 6: the word robbery upon it, right, I saw that for

777
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 6: a few a year, but like Ave Torelli and Mike Bell,

778
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 6: who have more experience I believe than Rick Winter, were

779
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 6: the two judges who gave Gabriel Bonfime the third round,

780
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 6: and then Rick Winter gave round three for wonder Boy Thompson.

781
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 6: And in terms of damage and everything, I understand scoring

782
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 6: to be Gabriel Bonfime cannot like steal the round by

783
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 6: running clock for ninety seconds at the end and not

784
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 6: really doing a whole lot in the clinch, right, And

785
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 6: yet here we have experienced judges, you know, giving him

786
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 6: that scorecard. And then you mentioned sort of the youth.

787
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 6: So are you suggesting that maybe you know the like

788
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 6: what like? What? What does that even mean? It's almost

789
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 6: like saying to be the champion, you gotta beat the champion.

790
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 6: What does it matter if wonder Boy has white hair

791
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 6: or yellow hair.

792
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 5: I don't know, well that part, I don't know what

793
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 5: the hell I'm talking about, but I'm just saying that's

794
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 5: what running through my mom. I'm just saying, it's always

795
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 5: the guy that's on the come up that's going to

796
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 5: get those decision. It's almost like a hometown decision, which

797
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 5: I used to have no problem.

798
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 6: Because it's better for the UFC if out of doubt.

799
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Pimblin against Jerry Gordon, Right, well Pimblic

800
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 5: was the guy, you know, so Jared won that fight.

801
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 5: I know we talked about that a bunch of times,

802
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 5: but well, you know, like, that's the way I look

803
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 5: at it. Like I'm going to say, nine out of

804
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: ten times, the guy that's on the come up is

805
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 5: going to get that nod because that they feel like

806
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 5: that's the better I don't even know. Again, I mean, like,

807
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 5: what was better for the UFC to who win that fight?

808
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 5: And of course I understand anything, So of course sounded

809
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 5: like an idiot, but I'm just saying that's the way

810
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 5: I look at it. You know what.

811
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 6: No, and maybe in twenty five years, judges and referees

812
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 6: will defend themselves right, and it would be as simple

813
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 6: as Mike Bell just issued a statement as to why

814
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 6: he thought bon Fiem did enough with the effective grappling

815
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 6: or whatever it was in round three. Just a simple

816
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 6: statement after the fight for Mike Bell and Dave TERRELLI

817
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 6: acknowledging the scorecard and then we move on.

818
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 5: Yeah and again, and I love I love Torelli. He's

819
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 5: a great guy. Yeah, he is a great I'm not

820
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 5: even so reggan on him. I just think, yeah, give

821
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 5: us something, maybe he'll help us out. Maybe I miss something.

822
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not like sitting there watching the fights

823
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: like a judge. I'm you know, I'm having a good time.

824
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 5: I'm running around.

825
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 7: You know, the position of the judges is critical. And

826
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 7: even if they're watching on the monitors, even that isn't

827
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 7: full proof either, because if the fighters have their backs

828
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 7: to you and he throws that kick, you could easily

829
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 7: think that, oh bom FIM just blocked that kick, just

830
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 7: kept walking forward you know where I don't know. So

831
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 7: it's it's tricky, man. It's a tough, tough sport to

832
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 7: judge sometimes.

833
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 6: I mean, if I was getting married this weekend, Jason

834
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 6: Herzog is invited and hopefully would a tend, But why

835
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 6: can't I book him on the Anakin Florin podcast and

836
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 6: talk about that atrocious fucking stoppage?

837
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 5: Jake?

838
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 6: Now, I'm just kidding, you know what I mean, Like

839
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 6: I don't know, you know, I mean.

840
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 5: I think the best pause that guy had his hand

841
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 5: was the size of Jason's head. Did you see what

842
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 5: he had his hand on? His Yeah, yeah, like it

843
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 5: was crazy. Yeah, that was That was an early stoppage though,

844
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: but a great fight for Dearren Lewis. And the guy

845
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 5: did grab de fence trying to get up, so I

846
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 5: thought he was stopping it to take a point away,

847
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 5: to be.

848
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 6: Right, or take two points away. You can take two, yeah.

849
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 5: Because he was purposely using that as a ladder to

850
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 5: get up.

851
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 6: All right, So let us transition and Kenny, you can

852
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 6: lead us here on mean machine Steve Garcia. And you know,

853
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 6: my brother texted me and Jason and will be here

854
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 6: in fifteen minutes, Like, was anyone gonna let me know

855
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 6: how big Steve Garcia is for the featherweight division? I mean,

856
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 6: he looked enormous. I've caught a lot of his fights

857
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 6: and the evolution of this athlete dating to his UFC debut,

858
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 6: Kenny has been market How about fucking mean machine Steve

859
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 6: Garcia can plow well.

860
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 7: First of all, Calvin Cater is a massive fedeweighted Calvin

861
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 7: look tiny and I actually looked. I had to look

862
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 7: at the lower part of the monitor and be like, wait,

863
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 7: there are they fighting it?

864
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:57,959
Speaker 5: Light weight?

865
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 6: How big is Steve Garcia? My goodness? This Yeah, I

866
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 6: was just thinking about that.

867
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 7: But yeah, they fought at featherweight, and yeah, Garcia is massive,

868
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 7: and yes, he is a very good fighter who knows

869
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 7: how to pressure and pressure behind the jab more importantly,

870
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 7: and took Cater just out of the fight. Cater tried

871
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 7: everything he could, but he wasn't active enough, and I

872
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 7: think a lot of that had to do with the

873
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 7: pressure of Garcia and all the different things he was

874
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 7: thrown his way. But Garcia is the real deal. Again,

875
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 7: proves himself to me and the consistency that he's shown.

876
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 7: Didn't get a six, you know, knockout in a row,

877
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 7: but it was almost as impressive as some of the

878
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 7: knockouts that he's done, just because to to make Cater

879
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 7: that ineffective, I think it is impressive and it's a

880
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 7: testament to his level of skill and confidence right now.

881
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, that was a great fight. There was a

882
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: fight that Kater would normally welcome. You know what I mean.

883
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 5: That's a guy coming forward. He's not gonna run around,

884
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 5: he's not looking for takedowns. It's just going to bang

885
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 5: it out. But Garcia, he's got a I guess he's

886
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 5: got a wicked left hand, he's got let in that

887
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 5: hand because he can. He has knocked a shitload of

888
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 5: people out and he not catered down with it. So

889
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 5: he kind of reminds me of a This is not

890
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 5: not I'm not saying this in a bad way, but

891
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 5: a sophisticated version of Chris Leban. You know, Levan had

892
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 5: that left hand, he was just winding up. This guy's

893
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 5: a little more sophisticated, like Kenny City fights behind the

894
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 5: jab nice. He's got the good forward pressure. But they

895
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 5: both throw that left hand like the same way. They

896
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 5: know there's something special in it. When it hits, it

897
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 5: normally does damage. So great fight for Garcian. It's good

898
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 5: to see Jackson and Wink back in there with a

899
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 5: guy you know on the come up. You know, I

900
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 5: just ran into Craig Jackson in Jersey a couple of

901
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 5: weeks ago, so they're like old school. I'd like to

902
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 5: see it, man, I like to see the old screg man. Yeah,

903
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 5: well he just a nice peat Yeah.

904
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, how yeah, I can't flow on. Greg Jackson are tight.

905
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 6: You can tell how well coached Steve Garcia is. And

906
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 6: I believe that's his father in the corner as well.

907
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 8: Oh wow, and.

908
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 6: Ray you're on fire today though, I see that Chris

909
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 6: Leeban silhouette, Like immediately as you say that, you know

910
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 6: what I mean, I don't know that's you know, yes,

911
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 6: one hundred percent so for Calvin Cater, right, And I

912
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 6: was going back and forth to text with my twin brother,

913
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 6: you know, credit versus blame, right, Like, obviously buckets of

914
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 6: credit to Steve Garcia, who I think has won five

915
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 6: or six in a row now and a lot of

916
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 6: big fights potentially for him now that he will be

917
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 6: a ranked fighter. But this was a zero for Cater

918
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 6: and a lot of respects Ray, I mean, there was

919
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 6: no offense here, and I don't know, I just wanted

920
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 6: to get some thoughts on the other side because this

921
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 6: was certainly an underwhelming effort from Calvin Cater. And I

922
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 6: think his next UFC fight is going to be of

923
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 6: the most urgent variety after what we saw Saturday night.

924
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, with the reserve or not. It's you know, where

925
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 5: do you go even if you win the next fight, Like,

926
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 5: it's just gonna be hard to climb all the way

927
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 5: back up to where he was at one point. Definitely

928
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 5: one of my favorite fighters. Loved his boxing, you know,

929
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 5: heavy style approach. But you know, like I think they

930
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 5: gave him a guy that and I'm saying Garsie is

931
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 5: really good, but they gave him a guy like again,

932
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 5: that wasn't like al Joe would take him down. He's

933
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 5: gonna always take him down. Like that's a that's a

934
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 5: nightmare for Cata. You can't even get any offense off

935
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 5: because the guy's put you on your ass. But this

936
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 5: guy stood in front of him and came forward. And

937
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 5: that's the type of guy that Cata should do really

938
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 5: well against, and it didn't go his way. So that that,

939
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 5: to me, is more of the problem. It's like, what

940
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 5: else do you want? Like, you know, now we don't

941
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 5: have me. You know, you don't even have to worry

942
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 5: about any kicks, you know what I mean, technically, but

943
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 5: uh yeah, I think you know, once you start sliding

944
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: back and you cross over that threshold, it's just hard

945
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 5: to come back. Man, he's been around for a long time.

946
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 5: Think of the fights he's had, you know, and I

947
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: will say this to Kate is credited. Even up to

948
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 5: the last minute, I did think there was always a

949
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 5: chance he could yeah land that right, you know what

950
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 5: I mean, Like, it wasn't that bad. Where you know,

951
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 5: he just he has to be more active. He's just

952
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 5: not you know, he's he's for whatever the reason is.

953
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 5: I think he's hesitating just a split second, and that

954
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 5: for him is is like two hours.

955
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 6: Kenny, it's five straight losses for cater All against the

956
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 6: leage competition, Josh Ammitt, Arnold Allen, Aljamin Sterling, use of Zela,

957
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 6: Steve Garcia. But a lot of those are decisions, right,

958
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 6: and just the inability to go for it for whatever reason, right. Really,

959
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 6: since that Max Holloway fight that's immortalized behind me, uh

960
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 6: just hasn't been the same guy for one reason or another.

961
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, you wonder if it's is it a style thing?

962
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 7: Is it you know, the fact that he's taking a

963
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 7: lot of damage, he's getting older, I.

964
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 6: Don't know, he's still moving really well.

965
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 7: I think a lot of it also was he telegraphs

966
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 7: a lot of the shots. So even when he was

967
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 7: throwing shots and trying to get back into that fight,

968
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 7: and he did land a couple here and there against Garcia,

969
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 7: but he was telegraphing with a lot of big, big punches,

970
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 7: and anytime the same thing when you grapple, when you offer,

971
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 7: you know, when you throw a lot of big stuff.

972
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 7: You offer a lot of big space, and you could

973
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 7: see it coming and Garcia was just moving in and

974
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 7: ducking it, seeing it coming and countering, and it just

975
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 7: seemed like everything was just kind of wrong for Cater

976
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 7: for the most part, so really never generate in any momentum.

977
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 7: And I definitely think it also comes down to the

978
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 7: lack of volume. He's not throwing enough. It seems like

979
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 7: he's looking for the perfect punches and then now he's

980
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 7: behind the eight ball and now needs to throw these

981
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 7: big punches, and now those aren't landing, so it just

982
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 7: becomes this kind of snowball rolling down the mountain that

983
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 7: gets worse and worse and worse. So unfortunately, it's either

984
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 7: going to take a complete reset and time them away

985
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 7: from the sport to kind of rebuild or kind of

986
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 7: figuring out, you know, what's going on. Is he heading

987
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 7: in there with a lot of injuries. There's a lot

988
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 7: of things that could fa million be the issue. But

989
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 7: you know, Cater is a great dude. Obviously, he's from

990
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 7: our area. You want to see him do well. Still

991
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 7: one of the toughest dudes in the sport. But you know,

992
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 7: five fights in a row, he can't have too many

993
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 7: more of those.

994
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I tell you, I think it actually

995
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 5: correlates to age two. Right, he's getting older. You're not

996
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 5: the guy you were with thirty two. And for his

997
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 5: style of fighting, that's a young man's style of fighting,

998
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. That's the other problem he

999
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 5: doesn't have. Like if he had a complete I'm not

1000
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 5: saying he doesn't, but if he had a complete skill

1001
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 5: set where he could have put Steve Garcia on his

1002
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 5: ass a couple of times with some takedowns, he could

1003
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 5: have slowed down the fight, maybe changed the rhythm of

1004
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 5: the fight. But he only knows that one thing. And

1005
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 5: now at thirty seven, you got to realize you can't

1006
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 5: be training like you were with thirty two. You start

1007
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 5: taking shortcuts and it just starts to snowball. And you

1008
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 5: know these guys that are coming up and they have momentum,

1009
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 5: and they younger and bigger and quicker. It's it's just

1010
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 5: gonna be a problem. I mean, like again, if he

1011
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 5: had takedowns, right, if he had some submission, something that

1012
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 5: people were maybe afraid of, that they wouldn't be that

1013
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 5: you know, uh entitled to step in like that. I

1014
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 5: think it would make a big difference, but they know

1015
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 5: what they get.

1016
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 7: And he's in a tough spot too, because you know,

1017
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 7: and it's weird saying this, as he fought a massive

1018
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 7: featherweight in Garcia.

1019
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 6: But you know, maybe at thirty.

1020
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 7: Seven years old, that one forty five that cut down

1021
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 7: at one forty five is getting old and being taking

1022
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 7: its toll on his body, and maybe he needs to

1023
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 7: go up to one D five and the probably fighting

1024
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 7: at one forty five, that division doesn't.

1025
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 6: Get any easier.

1026
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 7: So yeah, you know, he's a He's in a tough

1027
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 7: spot right now, man, you know.

1028
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 6: So the story, of course, though is Steve Garcia and

1029
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 6: I love. As he spotted forward, he talked about headlining

1030
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 6: a ufc Apex card right an attainable goal. I think

1031
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 6: it makes a lot of sense to try to head line,

1032
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 6: to just see where you're at if indeed it does

1033
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 6: go five rounds. There are a lot of big featherweight

1034
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 6: fights coming up. Of course. We have this weekend, Danny

1035
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 6: Gay fighting Patricio Pippo, We have Mobs or ivoye of

1036
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 6: an Aaron Pico. July twenty sixth, Diego Lopez, Jean Silva,

1037
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 6: September thirteenth for notch UFC. Of course you got Ray Longo,

1038
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 6: al Jamaine Sterling taking on Brian Ortega August twenty third.

1039
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 6: You got your flight to China yet or what?

1040
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 5: Oh?

1041
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 6: Actually yeah, actually I mean really got to go to China.

1042
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what they did. That's like you can't fight

1043
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 5: and you know, you know what they think he is.

1044
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 5: You know what they think you when they say, yeah,

1045
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 5: we got you fight. Finally it's in the Gulag. Yeah right, okay, yeah,

1046
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 5: you go to Gulag al Joe to fight another guy

1047
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 5: that descend him to the Gulag to fight, and the

1048
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 5: cards and the main event is Johnny you'll see Nepaul. Yeah,

1049
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 5: UFC Alaska you're in.

1050
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 6: Luck Yeah, Johnny Walker and Jong Minyong and then al

1051
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 6: Joe and t City and the Comaine. That might just

1052
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 6: be because one or Taken maybe didn't want to go five.

1053
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 6: Who knows, you know, you never know.

1054
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 5: See al Joe's tricky man could moving up because al

1055
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 5: Jo is a complete he guy a complete skill set

1056
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 5: and he's intelligent. He knows how to fight within himself.

1057
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 5: You know, that's why he's he's doing. Really he's going

1058
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 5: to continue to do well.

1059
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 6: No, I agree.

1060
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 5: He stays in shape, you know, I mean he does, you.

1061
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 6: Know mentally mentally he is.

1062
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 5: He's really technically sound and like again, he knows al

1063
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 5: Joe better than than anybody, and he knows how to

1064
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 5: make that work. And that's the beauty of him. And

1065
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 5: I think, to me, the guy's dark horse.

1066
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, he's got a style built to last.

1067
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, hundred percent, he's got a style built

1068
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 5: the list. I don't think they're gonna let him be

1069
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 5: the dark horse.

1070
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 6: But they're not giving him. Steve are seeing a headliner

1071
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 6: at the Apex. I'll tell you that, you know.

1072
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, they don't want to take no chance.

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00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 6: At your fucking jan sport going on, Steve Garcia, not

1074
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 6: with the USC's looking forward right now. They like strikers, right,

1075
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 6: knockout artists, right, all right, we have a few more

1076
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 6: minutes with Ray Longo. I would like to get your

1077
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 6: thoughts on Dustin Poorier and Max Holloway this weekend. Dustin

1078
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 6: Poorier is a slight underdog right now. I sort of

1079
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 6: feel like if any athletes are gonna be able to

1080
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 6: intangibly rise above any pressure, it's these two. Whether it's

1081
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 6: Pourier's last walk in Louisiana or Holloway dealing with the

1082
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 6: reality of going oh and three against Volkanovsky and oh

1083
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 6: and three against Dustin Poorier. I just think these guys,

1084
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 6: not to quote myself recently, but mental giants who are

1085
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 6: going to rise to the occasion. I think it's going

1086
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 6: to be a great fight for as long as it less.

1087
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, so look, it's not a fight. I'm

1088
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 5: really looking forward with the because we've seen it before,

1089
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 5: but it is you put it pretty well though. They're

1090
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 5: both to go out and fight. There's no question about that.

1091
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 5: I don't care where these guys are at in their Korea.

1092
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 5: They they they're gonna they're gonna go out and fight.

1093
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 5: And I'm sure Dustin fight in front of his hometown

1094
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 5: has got to be exciting as hell to go out

1095
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 5: on that. So, yeah, you know, I am looking forward

1096
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 5: to it. But you know, I think like when Holloway

1097
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 5: four gets you was a little different because they never

1098
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 5: fought before, you know, yeah, you know, but this one

1099
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 5: is it was just the third time they're fighting.

1100
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, they're they fought for them.

1101
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Sorry, I would say I would generally agree

1102
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 7: with you there I do think though they're different fighters

1103
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 7: since the second time that they fight, you know, I

1104
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 7: think the first time they were both kind of earlier,

1105
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 7: twenty three and twenty years old. You know, they fought

1106
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 7: still a little while ago. I think they're different fighters.

1107
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 7: I think they're they've shown that they are better, They're

1108
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 7: more technical, they're wiser, and those are guys that are

1109
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 7: always getting better. So for me, I still kind of

1110
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 7: have that level of excitement here because I mean I

1111
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 7: kind of know who I'm going to pick here, but

1112
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 7: it's it's a it's a pick them fight.

1113
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 6: Man.

1114
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 7: These guys always deliver, and you know, two legends going

1115
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 7: at it always makes it exciting for me.

1116
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, uh yeah, I don't know, all right, right,

1117
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 5: Oh no, I can't say.

1118
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 6: I can't.

1119
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 5: I can't say.

1120
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 6: He's gonna I will predict that he is going to

1121
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 6: predict Max Holloway, and he's going to make that prediction.

1122
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 6: Later in the program, we'll see who are you going

1123
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 6: to predict? Because we all.

1124
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 5: Know that's what was Holloway's last fight.

1125
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 6: Eliots Portia last October.

1126
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 5: I believe that's the problem.

1127
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 6: Uh that might be the solution though, right yeah, People

1128
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 6: say you got a gambling problem. I say, no, I

1129
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 6: got a gambling solution to your problem.

1130
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 7: And Dustin's last was against Islam Mahasha, both coming off losses.

1131
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 5: He fought really well in that for that, right, he

1132
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 5: did quite pretty I'm going with dustinmier in that. I

1133
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 5: love how I'm just I'm just doing that for the show.

1134
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 5: I don't really like again.

1135
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 6: Okay, well, no, we appreciate that. You know, all right,

1136
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 6: before we let you go, would you rather wear a

1137
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 6: helmet or gloves? Always? I would say helmet? Cover up

1138
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 6: that fucking lettuce that.

1139
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 5: Let that ship go wild. I'm wearing gloves.

1140
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't want to wear a helmet all the time.

1141
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 5: All right, hopefully you know those late tax gloves where

1142
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 5: people feel safe around me.

1143
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 6: I'm going all the time.

1144
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 5: No, as I'm going into the bedroom, I like to

1145
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 5: put those gloves on.

1146
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 6: You for the ladies, ladies plural or just lady. Anyway,

1147
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 6: Ray was a big latex gloves during COVID I heard

1148
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 6: as well, Ray, would you rather have your name tattooed

1149
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 6: on your forehead or have no front teeth? When you're

1150
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 6: forced to choose, it's not the matter with me. Are

1151
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 6: you getting Ray Raymond tattooed on your forehead. That's what

1152
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 6: I will. Would you rather share a bed with a

1153
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 6: walrus or an eel? Well?

1154
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 5: Oh, well, I could say, is cuckoock chew? I am

1155
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 5: a wols.

1156
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 6: And our last one for today, ray Would you rather

1157
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 6: live in a world where you dance instead of walk

1158
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 6: or sing instead of talk? Oh wow, So you'd have

1159
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 6: to dance to the gym or sing while I'm singing.

1160
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 5: That's what I do anyway, I'm singing the whole day.

1161
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 6: Have a great day, and that's it.

1162
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 5: We're done.

1163
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 6: Well, anything else you got for us? I mean anything

1164
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 6: else you want to wet your beakon UFC three eighteen.

1165
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 5: How do you like your new environment?

1166
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 6: I didn't think that I would love being back in

1167
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 6: New England as much as I do. I think that

1168
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 6: there might be some recency bias there. But being out

1169
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 6: of the gated community in Florida, going over four speed

1170
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 6: bumps every time to go home, and just every day

1171
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 6: waking up to the same weather. I'm enjoying things so far.

1172
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 6: Talk to me in six months.

1173
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 5: You know we had to throw in that gated community.

1174
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 6: I threw it out there as a negative.

1175
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 5: You don't get sensitive mister, I'd rather do this or that?

1176
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 5: Or would you rather? All right, that's enough. Listen, Dinner's

1177
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 5: on me in the city anytime you want.

1178
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 6: Ray, would you rather have to be naked at work

1179
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 6: for an hour?

1180
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 5: Definitely?

1181
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 6: Not?

1182
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 5: Now, okay, I'll take the other one, all right, thank you.

1183
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 5: See take it easy, guys.

1184
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 6: Ray Long go minute every week here on the Annik

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Speaker 6: Slash audio why now with us on the guest line

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Speaker 6: the man with whom I shared the womb At Boston

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01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 6: and on social media, Jason andk Dirty boxing commentator host

1213
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 6: have remembered the show. It's good to see him, man,

1214
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 6: I miss you. What's going on?

1215
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 5: What's up? Guys? Hey? Where are you getting those would

1216
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 5: you rathers? From?

1217
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 6: Don't worry about a sweetheart all over the place, all

1218
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 6: over because all over you like him?

1219
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, a lot.

1220
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 6: I think we started doing that on Annik versus Annik.

1221
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 6: Most of them are coming from men's health. These are

1222
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 6: next level. I'm dying.

1223
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 5: You know.

1224
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 6: It'd be nice for Flow to get to answer some because.

1225
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm good, I'm good of Kenny.

1226
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, what do you got? Would you rather cows be

1227
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 6: purple or cats be huge?

1228
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 5: Oh?

1229
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 7: Wow, dude, cats being huge is dangerous. I mean they

1230
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 7: are phenomenal hunters. Purple cows would be entertaining. My my

1231
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 7: daughter loves purple.

1232
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 6: Be fun. Yeah. Actually, that John, that actually wasn't a

1233
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 6: good one because it didn't involve, you know, something in

1234
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 6: you personally, but something He gives me nice ones. He

1235
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 6: gives me nice ones. He gives me. He gives When

1236
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 6: we were in Vegas, Big Ron, we were up high

1237
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 6: in the Fountain Blue and he said, would you rather

1238
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 6: jump down from the thirty first floor onto a huge pillow,

1239
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 6: huge safe jump, or go down one mile per hour

1240
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 6: in the window washer device? Oh gosh, I'll go down

1241
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 6: in the window washer device.

1242
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 5: Oh no, one mile an hour?

1243
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 4: Right?

1244
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 6: Yeah? But how I mean how long does that take?

1245
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 5: You know? Well?

1246
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 6: Can we go two an hour? Jesus Christ.

1247
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 7: Oh, it's like it's like you're you're experiencing that fear

1248
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 7: for a long periods of time where you jump and

1249
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 7: you're just like, yeah, then you're just landing exactly right. Yeah,

1250
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 7: So like I think I might take the pill. Both

1251
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 7: are like horrifying to me because I don't like heights.

1252
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, nor I oh yeah, I know a lot

1253
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 6: of our viewership doesn't like that. But shout out, big

1254
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 6: Ron Betts. I like the backdrop there, John Calvin. Would

1255
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 6: you rather have an abnormally big toe or an abnormally

1256
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 6: big ear? I think I have both of those. Let's see, Uh,

1257
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 6: I guess a big toe? Yeah?

1258
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1259
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 6: All right, So, Jay, you're not coming to New Orleans

1260
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 6: this weekend for UFC three eighteen as yet, what do

1261
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 6: we need to do to get you live on the

1262
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 6: air to commit to either drive the eleven hours from

1263
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 6: South Florida to New Orleans or the Book of Flight?

1264
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 6: You know, I feel as though I'm doing Dustin Pourrier

1265
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 6: a great disservice if I don't come, you know, and

1266
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 6: if you're asking me for a pick on the fight, right,

1267
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 6: he watched you there, he said, I won't even I

1268
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 6: won't even break down the fight. But oh, I love

1269
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 6: Dustin Toria. I mean, like, did you see the shape

1270
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 6: he was in like six weeks ago. I mean, I

1271
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 6: tell you right, you think he wants to you know,

1272
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 6: the only I would only like him maybe excite me

1273
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 6: more if he was competing in Lafayette, you know, instead

1274
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,479
Speaker 6: of New Orleans. So man, I'm just excited for him.

1275
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 6: So maybe that it should have motivated me already. But

1276
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 6: a lot of moving pats. Yeah, so ken flow in

1277
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 6: terms of fighting in Louisiana, and it's a lot different,

1278
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 6: right than maybe your personal experience of fighting Gray Maynards

1279
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 6: stylistically really challenging title eliminator in Boston. Yes, there were

1280
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 6: a lot of different factors right to that week for you.

1281
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 6: But what is Dustin Pourier dealing with exactly? And I

1282
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 6: will just sort of add that, I just think he

1283
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 6: will be forged as opposed to face. Yeah, you know,

1284
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 6: it can go a lot of different ways. Of course,

1285
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 6: he's dealing with the two major things, which.

1286
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 7: Is going into this fight knowing it's going to be

1287
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 7: his last fight, it's his retirement fight, so there's just

1288
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 7: a lot of emotions heading into that, and then of

1289
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 7: course fighting in your backyard or in your home state.

1290
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Speaker 6: That's going to be interesting. You could put a lot

1291
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 6: of pressure on yourself.

1292
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 7: But this is a guy, Dustin Poirier, who has been

1293
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 7: in some high pressure situations. I don't think this is

1294
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 7: going to get to him. I do think this is

1295
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 7: gonna be one of those things that helps to forge him,

1296
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 7: especially as he experiences those inevitably difficult moments in that fight.

1297
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 7: He has proven to be a guy that does not

1298
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 7: get overwhelmed through immense pressure. He responds extremely well, and

1299
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 7: I think this will be another one of those situations.

1300
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 6: I wanted to get your collective thoughts on this. A

1301
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 6: lot of times people will say your next fight is

1302
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 6: your biggest fight, only as good as your last performance.

1303
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 6: Every fight in the UFC is a must win, right.

1304
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 6: In terms of Max Holloway and all of this, Jay,

1305
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 6: I just don't feel like there's much to lose here.

1306
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 6: I mean, sure, he could get knocked out with a

1307
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 6: poorier left hook like thirty seconds in, and that would

1308
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 6: be less than ideal. Right, But for Max Holloway, his

1309
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 6: next fight, seemingly at lightweight, is going to be absolutely massive,

1310
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 6: some sort of title eliminator or potentially a title fight

1311
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 6: against Toporitia or the Topoitia Pimblet or Topoitia Sarkian winner. Right,

1312
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 6: Like I just I don't see much downside for Max

1313
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 6: Holloway Jay win or lose, as crazy as that sounds,

1314
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 6: because I am so confident that he is going to

1315
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 6: perform well well and if anyone could afford to be

1316
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 6: on the other side of a horrible highlight. You know

1317
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 6: what he did to Justin Gage you, right, he could

1318
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 6: have worn to offset that with another one like that.

1319
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 6: I couldn't agree more. And I feel as though these

1320
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 6: guys are uniquely positioned.

1321
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 7: Right.

1322
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 6: You could say similar about Dustin Poorie. A lot of

1323
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 6: it's sort of been gravy with a lot of these

1324
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 6: appear and says there's how much do you have to

1325
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 6: lose even when you're fighting Connor McGregor at times for

1326
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 6: Dustin Poie. But would I'll say, you know, these guys

1327
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 6: fighting for a third time, they're all so unique, right,

1328
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 6: six years apart or seven years apart, now six years apart, right,

1329
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 6: so whatever happened seven years ago for that introm belt, right,

1330
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 6: it's so unique. And you know, if I'm Max Holloway,

1331
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 6: you know I lost my debut I lost that introm

1332
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 6: belt there to Pourier like that stings like I think

1333
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 6: this is a great opportunity for him to sort of

1334
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 6: avenge both of those. I think it's for him. And

1335
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 6: you know I'm a broken record, but Dustin Poorier values

1336
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 6: his introm belt tremendously, always has, Justin Gage drops it

1337
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 6: on the ground next to him, and so, gosh, man,

1338
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 6: Dustin Poier, you talk about what he's achieved in this

1339
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,479
Speaker 6: sport without and Kenny, he fought for UFC title three

1340
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 6: times just like you, the undisputed right, so and what

1341
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 6: Poorie's has achieved his massive But yeah, for Max, it's

1342
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 6: not lost on me, John, But I think for him, yeah,

1343
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 6: it's all gravy. I think he goes from here in

1344
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 6: a great place no matter what camth Flo. I don't

1345
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 6: know if you have any thoughts on that as it

1346
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 6: relates to Max Holloway, but I just think that he's

1347
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 6: going to be set up really well at lightweight win

1348
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 6: or lose this weekend. Now, I agree. I don't think

1349
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 6: there's much pressure on Holloway at all.

1350
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 7: He's kind of acting like it in all of his interviews,

1351
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 7: and it's almost.

1352
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 6: Like he knows something that no one else knows.

1353
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 7: And I think that having fought at one forty five

1354
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 7: a few times now, and the fact that he's really

1355
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 7: worked hard on adding that punching power and size into

1356
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 7: his training regiment, I think he's got the power now.

1357
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 7: Whereas last time he fought Dustin Poori at one five,

1358
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 7: he did not. He was landing a lot of great shots,

1359
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 7: but they it looked like it didn't have a whole

1360
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 7: lot of effect on Dustin Pourrier, whereas Poier's shots were

1361
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 7: having a big time effect on him. So, I mean,

1362
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 7: if there's any doubts about his power, look at that

1363
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 7: fight against Geechee Man. I mean, even in the shots

1364
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 7: before the knockout, I mean he was landing heavy shots

1365
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 7: and Geechee was feeling feeling them for sure.

1366
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 6: Other than losing to a guy three times, I just

1367
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 6: don't see any real downside here for Max Holloway, and

1368
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 6: in terms of Dustin Poorier, right, part of the reason

1369
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 6: I think that he never fought Alexander Volkonowsky was just

1370
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 6: because the calendars didn't deligne and Volkanovsky didn't move up

1371
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 6: to one fifty five at a non championship setting or

1372
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 6: whatever it may be. But Dustin didn't necessarily see the

1373
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 6: mass appeal in that fight because maybe Volkanovsky is the

1374
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 6: smaller man right now. Nate Diez is sort of the

1375
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 6: fight that got away for Poorier. They were booked in

1376
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 6: twenty eighteen Madison Square Garden. It didn't happen, right if

1377
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 6: Matt if Dustin Poie were to lose to Nate Diez

1378
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,879
Speaker 6: Kenny this weekend as a minus five fifty betting favorite

1379
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 6: or so, you know, that would not necessarily no, no, no,

1380
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 6: I'm saying that if Dustin Pourier was fighting Nate Diez

1381
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 6: this weekend as a minus five fifty betting favorite, guy

1382
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 6: coming on my own podcast, trying to correct me, right,

1383
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 6: that would be downside right, yea, Like a lot of

1384
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 6: people didn't want to see Dustin fight Nate because on paper,

1385
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 6: the makers made it so vast, right, Thustin's the underdog

1386
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 6: this weekend fighting guy that he's already beaten twice. So

1387
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 6: I don't know, I just think that it's the perfect

1388
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 6: fight at the perfect time. The BMF belts on the

1389
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 6: line and here we go. Well, and I just want

1390
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 6: to ask one you know, like in terms of pressure, right,

1391
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 6: like these guys have fought in such big spots, like

1392
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 6: the idea that there'll be more pressure on Pourier fighting

1393
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 6: in his backyard than fighting.

1394
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 5: For a belt.

1395
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 6: But if I'm Max Holloway and I'm not, I would

1396
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 6: never doubt that mindset of any fighter. But the fact

1397
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 6: that this guy got you twice and got you three times, Like, man,

1398
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 6: if I'm Max Holloway, this feels like my This feels

1399
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 6: like the biggest fight of my life. Right to not

1400
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 6: have a three fight losses to these three guys and

1401
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 6: to sort of upset the Apple guard here, there's a

1402
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,759
Speaker 6: little bit of pressure. I'm blessed.

1403
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't think about it that way that you

1404
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 7: could be right.

1405
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 6: That's interesting. We'll see how it plays out. We'll get

1406
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 6: some main event predictions from Ken Filow later in the program.

1407
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 6: So Dirty Boxing three has that been announced yet, jay

1408
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 6: or No, can't really disco disclose much. Dates moved around

1409
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 6: a little bit. I believe it'll be in the month

1410
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 6: of August. I can tell you that. Okay, So July

1411
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 6: twenty sixth is not happening for the first for the

1412
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 6: first Dirty Boxing Heavyweight Championship of the World, jar Zeno

1413
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 6: Biggie Boy Rosen Strike versus the Wolf Rob Perez from

1414
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 6: Weston Mass Flow with a great Boston accent boot and

1415
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 6: a nice right hook too.

1416
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 5: So we'll see what happens. But that should be fun.

1417
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 5: All right forward to.

1418
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 6: It before we let you go. Two more items UFC

1419
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 6: at the White House. So this is interesting, right because

1420
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 6: Dana White certainly in the past, has been noncommittal when

1421
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 6: it comes to an outdoor show. I don't know if

1422
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 6: this thing is going to be outside or whatever. But Kenny,

1423
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 6: what was your initial reaction to President Trump suggesting there

1424
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 6: was going to be a UFC live event next summer

1425
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 6: on the White House lawn. My initial reaction was, June

1426
01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 6: Jos is back.

1427
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 7: It's back in the conversation going back. No, I don't

1428
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 7: know who knows. We'll talk about that, I'm sure, but dude,

1429
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 7: you know, you know Trump sometimes he just throws something

1430
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 7: out of there, like he's got this idea, or maybe

1431
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 7: he just talked to Dane about it like for a

1432
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 7: half a second and he's like, let's I'm gonna throw

1433
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 7: this idea out there, or maybe it's actually gonna happen.

1434
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 7: He just might be crazy enough to try to make

1435
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 7: it happen. The logistics to me when I think about

1436
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 7: something like that sounds insane from a security standpoint of

1437
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 7: how they would pull that off.

1438
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 6: But if there's one president who.

1439
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 7: Would try to pull that off, it would probably be

1440
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 7: President Trump, and Dana White would probably try to do

1441
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 7: everything in his power to make that happen.

1442
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 6: So that was I mean, have we seen anything like

1443
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 6: that ever? I don't know. Just the whole idea just

1444
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 6: got me a little bit excited.

1445
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 8: Man, Johnny, you can get me out of here. I

1446
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 8: know you got the action man here.

1447
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 6: But as soon as I heard it, I was like,

1448
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 6: it's immediately happening, and it's definitely happening.

1449
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 8: We could go on and on and on.

1450
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 6: I said this a week ago as soon as Trump

1451
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 6: uttered the words, and then the UFC cont like, it's

1452
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 6: one hundred percent happening. We can talk about the outdoors thing.

1453
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 6: We can talk about it for the next eleven plus months.

1454
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 6: But anyway, appreciate it. And I will just say in

1455
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 6: closing on that, I don't know if it was Ethan

1456
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 6: Diamandis from Odds Shark who suggested it to me, but

1457
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 6: the UFC pulled off a miraculous show at Sphere and

1458
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 6: logistically doing a show at the White House pales greatly

1459
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 6: when compared to that. Not that there aren't hurdles, but

1460
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 6: I just I don't think it's it's gonna be a

1461
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 6: closed event. It's not gonna be like it's twenty thousand people.

1462
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 6: But uh, all right at Boston ANDIC anything for us

1463
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 6: on the Balah Muhammed front, Do we have a date

1464
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 6: that we have an opponent? Nothing for us, right, No,

1465
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 6: just that he's super healthy and he almost wanted to

1466
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 6: fight in August. You know, he keeps talking, Oh there's

1467
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 6: no comin event in Chicago in August. He's been you know,

1468
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 6: said ad nauseum that I think Usman is next for him.

1469
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 8: Whether Kamaru wants that fight or not.

1470
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 6: I know it blows much less injured than some may

1471
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 6: think coming out of that fight with j D. Hunt.

1472
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 6: All right at Boston and Jay, appreciate you stop and

1473
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 6: buy hope to see an or this weekend? Kid? All right, boys, yeah,

1474
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 6: CJ all right. Good to have everybody with us live

1475
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 6: here on the Anacontrolling Podcast. On a Monday, we go

1476
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 6: back out to the guest line and we are joined

1477
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 6: by the King of Combat, the Action Man UFC welch

1478
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 6: Away Warrior Chris Curtis, who I believe is joining us

1479
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 6: on the eve of his thirty eighth birthday. You got

1480
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 6: a birthday tomorrow, Champ.

1481
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, I'm getting old thirty eight tomorrow.

1482
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 6: Not in this room. In this room, you are very young.

1483
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, been fighting years. I'm like four hundred.

1484
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 6: Well, we love you, we love your fighting spirit, we

1485
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 6: love your smile, and we saw that after a big

1486
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 6: win over Max Griffin this weekend. How are you feeling

1487
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 6: overall just about the w the weight class, the performance

1488
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 6: and everything else.

1489
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 8: Uh, physically, I feel great, man. I Uh. All I

1490
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 8: got is some nice stitches. Ooh, I'm like lagging really

1491
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 8: bad there.

1492
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 6: Sorry, that's right.

1493
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 8: Uh got some nice stitches from the headbutt. Outside of that,

1494
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 8: no injuries, nothing, So that's nice. Always nice to feel

1495
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 8: good after a fight performance wise. You know, it's not

1496
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 8: my best, not my worst. We kind of knew this

1497
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 8: wasn't gonna be like a career defining showcase fight for me.

1498
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 8: He's just not the opponent for that. He never is.

1499
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 6: Uh, but I feel good.

1500
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 8: I got to test out you know how it would

1501
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 8: feel in a fight after our first way cut till

1502
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 8: one seventy and four or five years and you know,

1503
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 8: we got we got fifteen minutes in, which was nice,

1504
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 8: and I now trust that my body can handle it.

1505
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 8: He goes. We didn't. We didn't have a time for

1506
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 8: practice cut. There was no it's the first time I've

1507
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 8: seen one seventy in four years. There's no practice cut nothing.

1508
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 8: We kind of had one shot at it, so you know,

1509
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 8: you're it's honestly, it's a little nerve wracking going in

1510
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 8: and like, okay, you know, there's no there's no plan B.

1511
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 8: We have no idea how you're gonna feel. I'm making pancakes, sorry,

1512
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 8: but waffles. Yeah, but uh it felt good. We felt great. Uh,

1513
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 8: you know, we had some adversity, we stayed focused, we

1514
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 8: got the job done. I'm happy. You know, the next

1515
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 8: fight is gonna be better. It's only up from here.

1516
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 8: But uh, for the first time out, I felt great. Man,

1517
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 8: I felt good. I'm happy with it.

1518
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, Chris, you know Max Griffin is an unorthodox fighter.

1519
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 7: How much did that kind of throw you off a

1520
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 7: little bit once you got in the cage with him?

1521
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 8: Uh, it's it's pretty wild. It's pretty weird, man, Like

1522
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:17,799
Speaker 8: he's he's a very alright tough guys. Fighting is like dancing,

1523
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 8: and it's really hard to dance when your partner either

1524
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 8: doesn't want to dance or have no idea how to dance,

1525
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 8: and it's just like mad day. He's out there dating

1526
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 8: to the beat of his own drum, and I'm just like, okay, man,

1527
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 8: and like, you know, it's true, but I'll get shipped

1528
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 8: from work. But honestly, you know, I'm like, I'm like,

1529
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 8: not to be mean, but like when was the last

1530
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 8: time you saw a really cool Max Griffin fight where

1531
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 8: you were like, oh, that's a badass fight. He's not

1532
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 8: that type of fighter, so like it's it's it's really

1533
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 8: hard to have that type of fight when the other

1534
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 8: guy's just doing shit and you're like all right, like

1535
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 8: it's fine. So after a we got cut early from

1536
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 8: the head button, I'm just like okay, like this is

1537
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 8: just not gonna go. This isn't gonna be clean to accept.

1538
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 8: Like it's not gonna be the fight we planned for.

1539
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 8: It's not gonna be the one, but we did plan for.

1540
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 8: It is the fight we planned for. It's not the

1541
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 8: fight I wanted. It's to fight we planned for. So

1542
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, like stick to the plane, like you know,

1543
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 8: we went to Plan two point zero because we figured

1544
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 8: he'd either come out to fight or he'd be jumping

1545
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 8: around being weird. And it turns out he's gonna jump

1546
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 8: around and be weird. So we planned for it. We

1547
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 8: adjusted for it, and like, you know, kind of have

1548
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 8: to switch gears. Not what I hoped for, but like

1549
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 8: it's it's something we expected.

1550
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 7: Now, after the fight, you know, they're they're about to

1551
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 7: announce the winner. How nervous were you, you know, given

1552
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 7: the fact that you've you've gotten the wrong after some

1553
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 7: some close decisions.

1554
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 8: Oh but at first when the fight was over, I

1555
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 8: was completely confident. I was like one that like won

1556
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 8: that I thought pretty cleanly. Uh And then they say split,

1557
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,879
Speaker 8: and I'm like, oh, we're doing this again. So it's

1558
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 8: I was not gonna lie man, Like definitely had the

1559
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 8: uh definitely had the butthole pucker a little bit. You're like, oh,

1560
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 8: I'm not this again. And like the moment I heard

1561
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 8: that split, I was like, you got to be kidding me.

1562
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 8: But uh, you know, we we we're in that era

1563
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 8: of MMA with that the weird judging era has come

1564
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 8: back around. So yeah, definitely made me a little bit nervous,

1565
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 8: Like you know, it's always different in the fight. I

1566
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,759
Speaker 8: figured like, hey, we might have lost the first round

1567
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 8: just you know, from the head butt and make me

1568
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 8: kind of not wanting to engage where I was because

1569
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 8: of the head butt. But I was like second and

1570
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 8: third round, I found out one cleanly and I was like,

1571
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 8: how was that a split? It's just it's definitely a

1572
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 8: bit nervous, not gonna lie like, but definitely pucker probably

1573
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 8: like the like pumper factory, like Yale's rough.

1574
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 6: Well, I feel like I need to ask like a

1575
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 6: long question over thirty seconds right now so this man

1576
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 6: can have a few bites of this food. The King

1577
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 6: of Combat Chris Curtis with us live on the Attic

1578
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 6: Imploring Podcast. Not omnipresent on social media anymore, which I

1579
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 6: think is interesting, right because I think there's so much

1580
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 6: productivity that I could even realize if I got off

1581
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 6: of Instagram right now. Certainly for me, it's social media

1582
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 6: is inexorably linked to income, right, Like I may money

1583
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 6: off of my Instagram, but what ends up happening is

1584
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 6: that I go down rabbit holes and I look at

1585
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 6: food on Instagram for hours on it. My whole feed

1586
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 6: is food. There are some attractive women on there, but

1587
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 6: my whole feed is like animals killing each other and food.

1588
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 6: And I go on there with good intentions, right Like

1589
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 6: I go on there to try to book a fighter

1590
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 6: for the Anakin Florian podcast. The next thing you know,

1591
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 6: I'm sending my daughter like chicken palm on steroids.

1592
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 8: I get it. I So during camp, especially like my

1593
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 8: my YouTube algorithm is like the weird reflection of me.

1594
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 8: And during this camp, for like three weeks, I had

1595
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 8: nothing but Indian street food. I would I wouldn't had

1596
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 8: a really dark rabbit hole of Indian street food and

1597
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 8: that was just YouTube. So like I'm so glad I'm

1598
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 8: out of like the the Twitter and the Instagram because

1599
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 8: I wouldn't. I would never get anything done. I didn't

1600
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 8: realize I get a lot more done without it. Yeah,

1601
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 8: but I go down rabbit holes have really bad INDHD.

1602
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 8: Like I mean, I spent weeks looking at Indian street

1603
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 8: food and then then morphan feel like I'm looking at

1604
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 8: like the like the like the culture in India and

1605
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 8: like it's it think that weird. I think that really weird.

1606
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 8: I'm like me getting on a good idea.

1607
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 6: So this past weekend less than forty eight hours ago

1608
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 6: was your thirty second mixed martial arts win. Now tomorrow's

1609
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 6: your thirty eighth birthday. I don't know how exciting that

1610
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 6: is for you, but I would imagine mixed martial arts

1611
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 6: provides you the best opportunity to make money in one night,

1612
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 6: as opposed to anything else you could possibly be doing.

1613
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 6: And now back at Welter Wade, and I think your

1614
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 6: performance was better than you're giving it credit for work

1615
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 6: in the body. The boxing looked great, the combinations were there.

1616
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 6: Do you think about like the next two years, the

1617
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 6: next three years, or are you just trying to just

1618
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 6: sort of take it fight by fight and see how

1619
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 6: your body responds.

1620
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 8: From me, I had you know, I'll be thirty eight,

1621
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 8: so I might as well just say thirty eight, so

1622
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 8: I know that I have at least two good years

1623
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 8: left in me. Hence I still feel great. I feel

1624
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 8: really good, you know, like even getting down to one seventh,

1625
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 8: it was easier I thought it would be. I'm faster

1626
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 8: than I wasn't eighty five. My body feels good, got

1627
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 8: no really big injuries. So I always tell myself I've

1628
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 8: got at least two good years at forty, you know,

1629
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 8: my fiance, my management and I you know, we decided

1630
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 8: we'll have that talk and see how we feel. I've

1631
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 8: always felt like, you know, forties at that age where

1632
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,440
Speaker 8: you got to you know, some people work better than others,

1633
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 8: but you see, you know, some people start to hang

1634
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 8: around little bit longer than they should. So at forty,

1635
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 8: we'll see where we are. We'll see how we feel,

1636
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 8: we see how we are career wise. I would love

1637
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 8: to fight until you know I'm old and gray. Yeah,

1638
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 8: you know, you know I would love that, Like this,

1639
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 8: this is what I do. But I also understand that,

1640
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 8: like you know, my family and my friends care about

1641
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 8: my health and like even to say that now, like

1642
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 8: you know, I am thought the BJ Penn insanity. Like

1643
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 8: you know, mental health plays a part in yes, like

1644
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 8: damage brain plays a part. And you know your future

1645
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 8: after this, so you don't want to be that guy

1646
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 8: who hangs around too long. I've got at least two

1647
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,839
Speaker 8: good years left at me, at least two good years,

1648
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 8: probably three. But at forty, will have that talk and

1649
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 8: we'll figure it out. We'll see how it is. And uh,

1650
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 8: everybody wants to leave on their own turns Like this

1651
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 8: is a really hard job.

1652
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 6: To leave right and we saw you and I know

1653
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 6: you're much younger than these guys, but Derek Lewis and

1654
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 6: Stephen wonder Boy Thompson, I mean, Stephen Thompson looks like

1655
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 6: he can fight till he's forty five, forty six years

1656
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 6: of age, you know, so I certainly wouldn't put that

1657
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 6: past you. Is there anything that is exciting to you about?

1658
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 6: And I asked this in part because Donna Cruz is

1659
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 6: one of my best friends and he has now just

1660
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 6: recently walked into his new reality. Like, what's the most

1661
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 6: exciting thing for you to think about when you're forty

1662
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 6: three and no longer get to or have to go

1663
01:21:58,600 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 6: through a training camp.

1664
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 8: I haven't decided it's it's exciting yet I think that's

1665
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 8: more terrifying to me. I'm still the point, yeah with

1666
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 8: my life where life without fighting scares me.

1667
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1668
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 8: It's funny. Like a while ago, I was in the

1669
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 8: PI the Force, scription walked up to me out of nowhere.

1670
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 8: He's like, you know, Chris Curtis, I was thinking about you.

1671
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 8: I'm really worry about you when you've done fighting, And

1672
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 8: that was like, that is a hell of a thing

1673
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 8: to say for script, But you know, I'm still at

1674
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 8: that point in my life to where I know there's

1675
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 8: things I want to do outside of fighting. I really

1676
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 8: want to write. I love writing. I want to write

1677
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 8: when I'm done, but I'm just not sure that I

1678
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 8: know that, like right now, I'm not ready to give

1679
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 8: that up. Yeah, and it's it's hard to it's hard

1680
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 8: to uh think about that part of life. I know

1681
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 8: it's coming sooner rather than later. But I just love

1682
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 8: what I do, man, I love love fighting. That's my

1683
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 8: biggest joy sadly, and you know, it's scarier to know

1684
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 8: that one day you got to walk away from it.

1685
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 8: So not exciting yet. It's still kind of scared, but

1686
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 8: I'm enjoying it when I can.

1687
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 6: Well, no, and you got a lot to offer the

1688
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 6: space even beyond that, but you still look like you've

1689
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 6: got a lot of good prime years left. And we

1690
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 6: should talk about writing because this UFC job that I

1691
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 6: have is the most intensive writing for television job that

1692
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 6: I think exists. So we should have some conversations. What

1693
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 6: type of writing you trying to do.

1694
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 8: I'm probably I'm gonna write fiction, but I mean I

1695
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 8: just love to write in general.

1696
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's cool.

1697
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 8: Hey, I actually I am a pretty good speech writer. It's

1698
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 8: one of my skills. I just like writing in general.

1699
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 8: Ma've always loved it. Maybe I'll go back to school,

1700
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 8: like English degree orselfing to help out with that. But

1701
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 8: I just love writing, man, It's a you know, I

1702
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 8: want to write books, I want to write stories.

1703
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 6: It's just cool. So in terms of the rest of

1704
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 6: twenty twenty five, now to the hard hitting investigative journalists question.

1705
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 6: I don't know if there's a name on the tip

1706
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 6: of your tongue or what you are expectant the promotion

1707
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 6: is going to present to you, either in terms of

1708
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 6: an opponent or a date, But what is the immediate

1709
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 6: fighting future hold for Chris Curtis Man?

1710
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 8: People think I'm joking. I really have no idea who

1711
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 8: most people are in this division, Like I Fitch, I

1712
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 8: just don't. I don't follow fighting the way I used to.

1713
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 8: I've got friends in this division, people I know Outside

1714
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 8: of that, I've got like no real idea who's this division.

1715
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 8: I just like to fight. Maybe I have to fight

1716
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 8: too much, you know, I get I get chestised for that,

1717
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 8: I got chastise in the fight for that.

1718
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 6: I just like to.

1719
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 8: Fight too much. I don't really to pay attention to

1720
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 8: anything outside of like my joy of fighting. So I

1721
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 8: don't have a name tip of my tongue. I just

1722
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 8: want to fight people like that's that's all it is.

1723
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 8: I just want to fight. I love being in the cage.

1724
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 8: I love the being in the fight. I love hitting people.

1725
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 8: I love getting hit. So like, I don't really care

1726
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 8: who's across from me. I just want to fight. Walter

1727
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 8: Whites tend to be a little more scrapping and fun.

1728
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 8: I'm just hoping Sean Gilshell but gives me somebody who

1729
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 8: wants to get in there and throw it out. Like,

1730
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 8: I just want to have fun fights. Like that's I've

1731
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 8: got at least two more years left. I just want

1732
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 8: to have fun fights.

1733
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 3: Man.

1734
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 8: I don't care who it is, what's going on. I

1735
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 8: just want somebody wants to scrap.

1736
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 6: So between fights, do you have to sort of monitor

1737
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 6: things a little bit differently? If somehow you get a

1738
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 6: call for like October fourth in Las Vegas and you're

1739
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 6: eight or something.

1740
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 8: So I you know, I haven't even checked my weight yet,

1741
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 8: but I was like, what two ninety three on fight night,

1742
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 8: so I'm probably ninety five right now. I don't think

1743
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 8: I'll get higher than ninety five. We'll be off this week.

1744
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 8: I'm want to try to get you know, walked around

1745
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 8: this entire camp like between ninety five and ninety, usually

1746
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 8: at ninety, but they made me gain some weeks. I

1747
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 8: was too small, So I think walking around ninety be perfect.

1748
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,799
Speaker 8: I think I can manage walking around ninety pretty easily

1749
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 8: still live comfortably. Like that's that's the goal, Like I

1750
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 8: don't I want to be I'm never gonna be able

1751
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 8: to fight in a week's notice. It's just not gonna happen.

1752
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 8: But not anymore with this week. But if I can

1753
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 8: stay ready, you know, give me three weeks, give me

1754
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 8: four weeks, and I'm in. So I just want to

1755
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 8: I train seven days a week outside of camp regardless,

1756
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 8: because this is just what I do.

1757
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 5: It's my job.

1758
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 8: So I'm always ready. So you know, it's a little

1759
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 8: bit different. I can't do the short short notice, but

1760
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 8: I'm always gonna be ready to fight. Like if something

1761
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 8: comes up, I hope they call me. Nick Mayer always

1762
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 8: knew you could call me if something came up. I

1763
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 8: was always gonna say yes. So now you stand sho

1764
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 8: Sean Shelby the same vague if you need a guy

1765
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 8: to step in to fight somebody, I'm usually that guy.

1766
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, switching up the matchmakers on you when you switch divisions, Well,

1767
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 6: you are an absolute credit to the sport. Your smile

1768
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 6: always lifts up a room. Congrats on a big win,

1769
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 6: Happy birthday, and hopefully we'll see you, you know, November December,

1770
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 6: if not sooner. Brother, have a great day, and.

1771
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 8: I'm hoping, I'm hoping they stay talking very much.

1772
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 6: Congrats Chris. Wait, Chris Curtis, the action man, the King

1773
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 6: of Combat with us here on the Anak and Florian podcast.

1774
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 6: It is interesting just all the joy for fighting that

1775
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 6: em and e's off of that individual. You know, there

1776
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 6: are a lot of fighters who uh who do it

1777
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 6: either because they have to or because they need to

1778
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 6: or for other reasons, and they don't have all that

1779
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 6: residual joy. So that was cool to uh to hear

1780
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 6: he's about that life. Man always treat and I love

1781
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 6: it all. Right. Now we go three wide once again

1782
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 6: and we welcome in big Gun Brian Petrie as we

1783
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 6: spend things for to UFC three eighteen. Big God.

1784
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 4: What's up?

1785
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 6: Boys? How we live?

1786
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 4: While I'm Dumb's good man? Two weeks without seeing my guys,

1787
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 4: I need to see him. What's up?

1788
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well I need to hear your voice, right, I

1789
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 6: mean more than anything, I need to hear your voice.

1790
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 6: But it's nice to see your face as well. So

1791
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 6: we do have one audio file that I would like

1792
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 6: to present to you guys, not necessarily some big formal

1793
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 6: pronunciation of the week, brought to you by Total Wireless

1794
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 6: or anything, although we'll throw the fucking Total Wireless bug

1795
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 6: up there on the corner even though they're not paying. So,

1796
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 6: Vansius Olivera seems pretty easy to pronounce, but it's his

1797
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 6: nickname that people are having an issue with. Ken Flows. So, Kenny,

1798
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 6: do you know Vansius Olivera's nickname? I do not. Oh,

1799
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 6: so it's either lock dog or loak dog. It's spelled

1800
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 6: l ok dog. So care to venture a guess as

1801
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,919
Speaker 6: to the nickname for Venesius oliver Era Kent Flow, Lucky Joggy,

1802
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 6: Lucky joggy? Is that what it is?

1803
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 5: It?

1804
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 6: Nail luck? You up your fucking dogg yard, Let's dog

1805
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 6: nail it? Okay, but uh, let's hear. Uh, let's hear

1806
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 6: Vanesius Cody go ahead.

1807
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 4: Venus luck dogs, Oh Venise luck dogs.

1808
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 6: What do you guys think? Look? Also, it's actually Vanisius

1809
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 6: diola Era, like there's a but I guess he drops it, right. So,

1810
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 6: but every time I get off the air after calling

1811
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 6: this guy's fights, excuse me. And as you guys know,

1812
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 6: they're fairly epic, right, and it's fun to say lock

1813
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 6: dog on a hot microphone. I got all these people

1814
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 6: saying it's look dog. But there's the file. He says,

1815
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 6: lock dog, right, it's locked all right?

1816
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 5: Right?

1817
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 6: Perhaps that was selfish and locked the dog. Yeah, lock dog,

1818
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 6: Vanesius oli Era, all right. Today's main event challenge on

1819
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 6: the Anticonflorment podcast is presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours.

1820
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 6: We have seven predictions today. We will begin with a

1821
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 6: middleway Preland bry Brendan Allen minus two forty five taking

1822
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 6: on Marvin Vittori, who was plus two hundred. So these

1823
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 6: guys initially booked, as you know Brian April of twenty

1824
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 6: twenty four, but Tory was forced to pull out. Now

1825
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 6: it shall be done. Seventeenth UFC appearance for Alan the Covington,

1826
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 6: Louisiana native, trying to stop his two fight slide Here

1827
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 6: at home. B p go ahead.

1828
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 4: Well, so these guys fought for free before you know video.

1829
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 4: Now they're getting paid for it. These guys do not

1830
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 4: like each other very much, and I like that right,

1831
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 4: and I like that Brendan Allen, what I've been following

1832
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 4: on social media is he kind of went, Okay, I'm

1833
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 4: gonna get out of Florida for a little bit and

1834
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 4: he went to Chicago, which I know he has ties

1835
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 4: a blow on those guys, but looked like he did

1836
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 4: most of his camp in Chicago. Looks a phenomenal shape.

1837
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 4: He had that two fight skid after coming off the

1838
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 4: Man event, went over Chris and then the two fight

1839
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 4: skid and the Hernandez fight. Listen, Fluffernandez is a g

1840
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 4: so good, but he did look flatt and that fighting.

1841
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 4: He was very upset with himself on social media. It's like,

1842
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm gonna do. Seems like he's rebounded. Well,

1843
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 4: he's got a guy that he doesn't like. He wants

1844
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 4: to fight. Vittoria on two fights gets well. We know

1845
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 4: how Victory fights very pressure, heavy, very volume based, not

1846
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 4: a lot of power, which is surprising considering how big

1847
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 4: he is for this division. I give the power to

1848
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 4: Brendan Allen. Brendon Allen I think is involving, is striking.

1849
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 4: He does have some good power in there, but the

1850
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 4: volume is something that worries me. You know, he had

1851
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 4: a lot of volume in the Chris fight, but that

1852
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 4: was a five round fight. Does he get to get

1853
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,759
Speaker 4: off in a three round fight with a lot of volume.

1854
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,440
Speaker 4: He mixes his kicks in well, and then the takedowns.

1855
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 4: That's the big key here because I think Brendan Allen's

1856
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 4: better on the ground, but Vittori is very stubborn to

1857
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 4: get down, like right, So this is kind of interesting here.

1858
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 4: I can understand why people are taking Victoria at this

1859
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 4: dog money. I know it's early in the week. I

1860
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 4: do see some people flirting with that plus money, that

1861
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 4: plus two hundred, I get it. I can see him decision.

1862
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 4: Brendon Allen. I just think Brendan Allen all in right.

1863
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 4: All In Brendon, I think he's a little bit better everywhere,

1864
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 4: and I think he's gonna prove that here. I think

1865
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 4: if he can get victory to ground, maybe catching me

1866
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 4: a kick or maybe dropping him with his ear and

1867
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 4: said and done, he'll dominate on the ground. I think

1868
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 4: if you gets to the ground somehow dominate, but otherwise

1869
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 4: very close fight. Gonna go to the decision, maybe split,

1870
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 4: but give me Brendan Allen, I'll take I'll take the

1871
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 4: favorite here.

1872
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 6: Kent Flow. Brennan Allen has long pine for this chance

1873
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 6: to fight in his native Louisiana, not even the featured prelim.

1874
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 6: I don't know if that speaks to the depth of

1875
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 6: the carter, if that's a straight fucking insult anyway, but

1876
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 6: Torre is still only thirty one, just two decision wins

1877
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 6: for Vittoria across his five starts since fighting Israela signing

1878
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 6: for the middleweight title back in twenty twenty one. His

1879
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 6: last appearance, Kenny Man event lost to Romandlidze in March

1880
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 6: of this year. Vittry back on the horse this weekend

1881
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 6: against ba.

1882
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1883
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 6: Interesting fight here. It was funny.

1884
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 7: As I was doing my research, I came across the

1885
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 7: Brendan Allen interview and the guy's interviewing him, and he's like, well,

1886
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:45,799
Speaker 7: surely you're gonna be a.

1887
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 6: Can you care me? Hello? Hello? Can you guys hear me?

1888
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 4: I got you?

1889
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 6: Okay, you got me? Brie, I can't hear Ken Flow?

1890
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 6: Did he freeze.

1891
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 4: Now I got I can hear both of you guys.

1892
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, hello, No, we back, Sorry can't. I couldn't said okay, okay,

1893
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 6: sorry sorry no.

1894
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 7: As I was doing my research, you know, I came

1895
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 7: across a Brennan Allen interview and the guy was talking

1896
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:11,600
Speaker 7: about he said, well, surely you're gonna be on the

1897
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 7: main car probably a co main event, right and Brensley,

1898
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1899
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 6: I think so yaha, yah yeah.

1900
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 7: And of course here we are talking about prelim fight.

1901
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,759
Speaker 7: But it's a good one, you know. I agree with you, Brian.

1902
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 7: I think Brendan Allen is more technical of a fighter

1903
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 7: and and and better everywhere.

1904
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 6: But Martin Vittori, he's got this skull. It's like a

1905
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 6: grizzly bear head and you can't quite.

1906
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 7: Hurt him when you hit him there, even if you

1907
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 7: hit him clean, he and he just keeps on coming.

1908
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,759
Speaker 7: I think Marvin Vittori's best bet, though, is to try

1909
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 7: to put Allen on his back. While Brendan Allen is

1910
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 7: very good on the ground, he does his best work

1911
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,799
Speaker 7: when he gets top position. That's where I think Brennan

1912
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 7: Allen can really mess you up, either with his ground

1913
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 7: or pound or his submissions, and Marvin Vittori, being a thick,

1914
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 7: big guy, you know, may try to take the ground

1915
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 7: and pound route and maybe tire out Brendan Allen in

1916
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 7: that process. I think that's the best best path to

1917
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 7: victory here. But I think sometimes victory doesn't always get

1918
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 7: off to the best starts and kind of gets behind

1919
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 7: a little bit, and that's where Brendan Allen has to

1920
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 7: keep that lead throughout this fight and not get complacent.

1921
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm with Brendan Allen here as well.

1922
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,839
Speaker 7: Could Vcori upset, Yes, I think that is very possible

1923
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 7: as well. So not a strong opinion on this one,

1924
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 7: but give me Brendan Allen. When I broke my chair

1925
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 7: on the Anakin Florian podcast and a collapse and I

1926
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 7: fell back, I was talking about Victoria's chin when I

1927
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 7: wait that, I was just saying, like, how is somebody

1928
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 7: gonna actually put this guy away?

1929
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 6: So yeah, all right. Feature prelim fellas at bandam Wait

1930
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 6: fifteenth ranked Venisius Lockdog Olavera minus won seventy five taking

1931
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 6: on number twelve Kyler Phillips, who comes back plus one

1932
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 6: forty five. So lock Dog bry off to a scintillating

1933
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 6: start in the UFC three and zero, and now he

1934
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 6: gets a step up against Kyler Phillips. He's looking to

1935
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 6: respond from a late twenty twenty four setback against Woburn's

1936
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 6: Rob font see it playing out a thirty five pp.

1937
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 4: So I'm licking my jobs right now, and I gotta

1938
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 4: settle myself down because when I get super excited about

1939
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 4: something like this, I usually burn myself in the ask.

1940
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 4: I gotta be cool, I gotta say it calm, But

1941
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 4: I think lock Dog is a lock here, and there's

1942
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 4: no disrespective cool Kylie Kyler. You know, Kyler's that guy's

1943
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 4: probably gonna fucking boogey board on into the press commedge,

1944
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,599
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like this dude's so cool, right,

1945
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 4: But I just think lock Dog, look who he's beaten

1946
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 4: in his early UFC career, is pretty goddamn impressive. Kyler

1947
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 4: is a great record too. He had three fight win streak.

1948
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 4: One of those was un Barseolos, who's super hot right now,

1949
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 4: but he is he lost his last fight and fades

1950
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 4: and fights as well. I don't really know what his

1951
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 4: game plan would be when it would want to take

1952
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 4: Lockdown down. He would take all over it down, good luck,

1953
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 4: because that's easier sating dud. Just gonna stay with him,

1954
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 4: good luck, because the guy's electric, he's big, he's thick,

1955
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 4: he's explosive this vision, and he has cardio. He's proven

1956
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 4: in time and time again. And I think Kyler as

1957
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 4: talented he is and is vet warn as he is

1958
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 4: because he's been around for a while. I just think

1959
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 4: he slows down in fights. I think he's a really

1960
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:07,600
Speaker 4: good first round and then he kind of gets complacent

1961
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 4: and there's really never a next level to him, and

1962
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 4: you're hanging minus one seventy five. That min as will

1963
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 4: be plus money in my eyes right now, Give me

1964
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 4: locked off, give me Olivera for all the chips, for

1965
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 4: all the beans. Not We're not there now. But I

1966
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 4: like him a lot in this spot. I'm just trying

1967
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 4: to convey to the audience how much I like this

1968
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 4: dude in this spot right here. I think he gets

1969
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 4: it done and I hope to see maybe a finish

1970
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 4: and let this star rise continue to rise. So yeah,

1971
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 4: I'm all over Olivera.

1972
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 6: Olivera, twenty nine years of age, out of Rio Grande

1973
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 6: du Seoul. He has defeated Bernardo Soapi Ricky Simona and

1974
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 6: saying Normago Medow Thus far Phillips on the other side,

1975
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 6: Kenny out of the MMA Lab six and two in

1976
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 6: the UFC. Last win came against Pedro Munoz. That was

1977
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 6: UFC two ninety nine last March. Hot do you see

1978
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 6: the bandam weight's going down this weekend? Kit?

1979
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 7: This is an interesting one. I think Olivera, he's on

1980
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 7: a three fight win streak right now. He's big, he's powerful,

1981
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 7: He's mentally tough and doesn't really tire that much, and

1982
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 7: that is a concern. As Brian talked about, we have

1983
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 7: seen Kyler Phillips get a little tired late in fights.

1984
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,759
Speaker 7: Definitely doesn't want to do this against this tough Brazilian

1985
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 7: guy here, because he has some serious knockout power. He's

1986
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 7: not gonna quit even if he's behind. You know, he's

1987
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 7: going to be mentally sound throughout this fight. Kyler Phillips, though,

1988
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 7: I think, is certainly the more technical fighter. I think

1989
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 7: he's got more waste to win in this one.

1990
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 6: In a lot of ways.

1991
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 7: Maybe doesn't have the knockout power I should say, maybe

1992
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 7: doesn't have the knockout power of Bolivera, But I kind

1993
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 7: of like him in this underdog spot here. I think

1994
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 7: that Kyler Phillips is one of those guys that is

1995
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 7: always going to come back stronger after a loss. I

1996
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 7: think he's a definite martial artist. He's going to learn

1997
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 7: from that last one where he was doing well and

1998
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 7: then wasn't. Font is very tough. I think font is

1999
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 7: fighting extremely well right now. So unfortunate timing there, but

2000
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 7: I do think Kyler Phillips still has it. I still

2001
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 7: think he can get back to the top of his game,

2002
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 7: and maybe people are overestimating the Brazilian Venisi sOliver a

2003
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 7: little bit.

2004
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 6: Here at this point and gonna go with Phillips. Give

2005
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 6: me Phillips, Yeah, see nothing. I like more as the

2006
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 6: guy who just sets up the main event challenge when

2007
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 6: one guy takes his testicles out, puts them on the table,

2008
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 6: and then the other guy just fucking stops on him.

2009
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 6: H alright. Main card opener, live on pay per view

2010
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 6: UFC three eighteen comes away in the lightweight division. Daniel

2011
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 6: zel Hooper minus five hundred. Michael Johnson comes back plus

2012
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 6: three eighty. So Johnson turned thirty nine last month. He

2013
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 6: had a big year last year, two wins, first time

2014
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 6: he had won back to back fight since twenty eighteen.

2015
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 6: He is fifteen and fifteen in the UFC. It feels

2016
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,440
Speaker 6: like a record that Daniel zel Hooper will never realize.

2017
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 6: Thirty first UFC star for MJ comes against zel Hooper,

2018
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 6: who's the five to one favorite. Brian Petrie go ahead.

2019
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 4: You know, I've talked about my addiction to Michael Johnson,

2020
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 4: and I've never been addicted to anything in my life.

2021
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 4: It's betting Michael Johnson and betting Michael Johnson's underdog and

2022
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 4: me forget about it. You know. It's like when you're

2023
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 4: single and you're like, you tell your buddies like you're

2024
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 4: with some girl and she's maybe not your buddies type,

2025
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 4: and but she's you know, she does something for you. Right,

2026
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 4: he can't explain it. Your buddy's really hurt it. Yeah,

2027
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 4: really heard, motherfucker. Don't worry about it, right. Yeah, That's

2028
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 4: how I feel with Michael Johnson.

2029
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 6: This guyl like in his.

2030
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 4: Prime could beat anybody, right, I mean he has a

2031
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 4: win over doestin poorier, clean knockout win. Like, this guy

2032
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 4: in his prime could beat anybody. He's stepping in here.

2033
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 4: He's still extraordinarily fast. That left hands are piston right,

2034
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 4: he can wrest a little bit. His defensive wrestlings there,

2035
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 4: his cardios there. Zell Huber, coming off one of the

2036
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 4: biggest performances of his life Fight of the Year, won

2037
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 4: the Fight of your Candidates at NOCE. He fell a

2038
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 4: little short in that fight, right if he could have

2039
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 4: won it, and he got rocked, and he showed a

2040
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 4: tremendous harden and everything. But zell Huber proved in that

2041
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 4: fight and other fights that he is hit a bull.

2042
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 4: You can crack that chin, incredible heart. He won't go away,

2043
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 4: but you can crack it. And I think Michael Johnson

2044
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 4: is one of the cleanest finishers in the UFC, even

2045
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 4: at thirty nine years old. He touches you with a

2046
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 4: left hand, you go down. He's gonna jump on that

2047
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 4: like a dog on a bone. He's going to try

2048
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 4: to finish that. And you're giving me plus three eighty. Yeah,

2049
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 4: I'm all over Michael Johnson. No disrespect to zel Hubber.

2050
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 4: I think Zelhueber is a tremendous talent, but minus five

2051
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 4: hundred to me is just a little too high for

2052
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:13,440
Speaker 4: a guy who's slightly unproven. I think his skills or extraordinary.

2053
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 4: But again, I just got Michael Johnson X factor where

2054
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 4: if he lands something and you're giving me that right number,

2055
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:20,839
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it. So yeah, give me Michael Johnson.

2056
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,680
Speaker 6: It is interesting, bri and Ken flows It not that

2057
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 6: Michael Johnson is competing on Poorier's retirement event. His signature

2058
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 6: in the biggest win of his career of course, with

2059
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 6: that main event in Hadalgo, Texas in twenty sixteen about

2060
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 6: a ninety second round one knockout of Poorier, and that's

2061
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 6: set Michael Johnson up for a fight with Abib Normago

2062
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 6: Medob And now we see what he has this weekend

2063
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 6: for Daniel zel Huber Kenny, the latter of course back

2064
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 6: for the first time since that epic clash with Ribevick's

2065
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 6: at Sphere. He was going to face Elvis Brenner and

2066
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 6: Mark Brenner with Drew. Then Austin Hubbard stepped in zell

2067
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 6: Huber with Drew for whatever reason, and now he ends

2068
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 6: his ten month layoff against Johnson in New Orleans.

2069
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Michael Johnson definitely can win this fight,

2070
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 7: and and with those odds, I think it's very juicy

2071
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 7: and tempting. I also like what what Michael Johnson's saying.

2072
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 7: It seems like he's gone back to the basics, really

2073
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 7: trying to improve his skills overall, and we're seeing that

2074
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 7: with the results. So it's a great way to kind

2075
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 7: of rejuvenate yourself, especially after you're getting kind of some

2076
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 7: momentum here with this two fight win streak. So I

2077
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 7: like that definitely has knockout power, but he's going against

2078
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 7: a guy in zel Huber who is very big for

2079
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 7: the division, who has knockout power himself, has a ton

2080
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 7: of skills and has a range when he's using it

2081
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 7: that can cast that can cause problems for a lot

2082
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 7: of people. And yes, the zel Huber Ribovics fight was tremendous,

2083
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 7: but I don't think zel Huber did himself any favors

2084
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 7: by fighting with that style. It was exciting, and if

2085
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 7: he fights Michael Johnson like that, then guess what, Michael

2086
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 7: Johnson can absolutely knock him out. So zel Hooper up

2087
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 7: to that point, you know, prior to Ribovics didn't really

2088
01:40:58,160 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 7: have that style where he was just kind of brawling

2089
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,599
Speaker 7: and fighting in a rage. And while it's exciting, it's

2090
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 7: not conducive to consistency in the UFC. The guys are

2091
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 7: just too damn good out there, and certainly doesn't want

2092
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 7: to do that here against Johnson. I think zel Hooper

2093
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 7: is gonna go back to being more of a technical fighter,

2094
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:17,759
Speaker 7: keeping Johnson on the outside. I think he's gonna respect

2095
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 7: the veteran here as a result get the decision win.

2096
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 7: But I do think the odds are pretty juicy there

2097
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 7: for Johnson. But give me the Mexican fighter, Daniel zil

2098
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 7: Hooper all right.

2099
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 6: Next fight on pay per view, Big Things at featherweight twelve,

2100
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 6: Frank Danny gave minus one seventy taking on Patricio Pitbull,

2101
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 6: who is plus one forty two. So Pitbull bry the

2102
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 6: underdog here is he looks to avoid a quick zero

2103
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 6: to two start. He just turned thirty eight this fight

2104
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 6: about three months after the lost to AA Rodriguez. On

2105
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 6: the other side, egay, he's elite as far as I'm concerned.

2106
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 6: I mean, he has dealt with some inconsistencies at the

2107
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 6: highest level. But in contention, after the win over Shan

2108
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 6: Woodson on that same card that Pitbull fought on UFC

2109
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 6: three fourteen, now they're in each other's bracket. How do

2110
01:41:59,040 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 6: you see it going down bright.

2111
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love this fight. They both kind of wanted it,

2112
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 4: and I'm glad they got it. They're both very similar

2113
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 4: when they fight and pitpull. Let's just put it out there.

2114
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 4: He's stunk his eyes fight he did that wasn't the Pippoull.

2115
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 4: That was a double champion bellator. He laying at seventeen strikes.

2116
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 4: He wasn't aggressive. It's yeah, Yara Rigaz, Yeah, Yarrigaz's Studi's

2117
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 4: the probably the FATS has got one forty five and

2118
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 4: he just froze. And I don't know if it's the

2119
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 4: UFC lights that got him or yeah year that got him.

2120
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 4: But a guy who I expected to be a little

2121
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 4: bit maybe not really the freezing from of the UFC.

2122
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Speaker 4: But that's the show, you know what I mean. You

2123
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 4: could beat double champ outside it, but you're in the

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01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 4: show now, right, he's getting heget who's a statesman?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 4: I just feel like if if it ever lined up

2127
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 4: like UFC versus whoever, they're gonna throw out day and

2128
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 4: he got one forty five just to maybe gauge to

2129
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 4: see who the fuck it is, because he's kind of

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01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 4: the benchmark right there. Yeah, he's elite. He hasn't got

2131
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:47,560
Speaker 4: over that hump yet to beat the elite elite. But

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01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 4: he's gonna beat a lot of guys chin for days,

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01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 4: good power, good cardio, take down the fence. A little

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01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 4: needs to be worked on a little bit. But I

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01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 4: don't really know if they're Piple's gonna come out here

2136
01:42:57,960 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 4: and look for a takedown. I think Pipple's gonna come

2137
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 4: out here and redeem himself. He's the first one to say, listen,

2138
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 4: I wasn't me last fight. I gotta get back. He's

2139
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 4: fighting a guy who's not as long as that year.

2140
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 4: They're both equally as fast, and they're about the same size,

2141
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 4: and they have the same similar strategy. So I think

2142
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 4: you take the takedowns out. We're going striking for striking,

2143
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,600
Speaker 4: you know. As much as I want to pull the

2144
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 4: trigger on e or excuse me as Pitbull was his

2145
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 4: dog money here, I just think he gay is gonna

2146
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 4: be a step ahead here. I think his boxing is clean.

2147
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:24,679
Speaker 4: I think his kicks are clean. I think his movements clean.

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01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 4: I think Pipple's one advantage over a lot of people

2149
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 4: is his speed. I don't really know if his speed's

2150
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 4: gonna play a factor here with Ega, who moves really

2151
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 4: well and defensives wealth well, and if he does get hit,

2152
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 4: he's got a fucking chin for days, you know what

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01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 4: I mean. So I like IgA this minus one seventy.

2154
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 4: I'm out running to the window of the bedit. Yeah,

2155
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 4: this fight has confused me a little bit, but I

2156
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 4: do like Andy. You getta get the win.

2157
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 6: Big Ron Pellegrino's term of endearment for Danny Gay would

2158
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,720
Speaker 6: probably be to call him a cocksman cosman. Yeah, I

2159
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 6: like that big Rock cots Ken flow. He guys lost

2160
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 6: three of five six of his last ten, but of

2161
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 6: course only against the top guys like Laron Murphy, Diego

2162
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 6: Lopez Mops or Ivloye. Your thoughts on him here minus

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01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:05,719
Speaker 6: one seventy against Patricio Pitbull comes back plus one forty two.

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01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, glad you brought up that experience, in that high

2165
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 7: level experience more importantly, because I think it's poised him

2166
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 7: very well to fight a guy like Patricio Pitbull, and

2167
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:18,520
Speaker 7: they do a lot of things similarly.

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Speaker 6: I think Ega maybe has more power.

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01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 7: At this point of his career, and I also think

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01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 7: that Danny Gay is the kind of guy that will

2171
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 7: take this kind of opportunity and take advantage of it.

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01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 7: And I agree with Brian. I don't think pit Bull

2173
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 7: had his best performance in that last one. But now

2174
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Speaker 7: if he increases that aggression tries to come forward, I

2175
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 7: think that just kind of opens him up that much

2176
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:39,799
Speaker 7: more to take one of those.

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Speaker 6: Big shots from Dan Egay.

2178
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 7: Pit Bull may try to hit some takedowns here and

2179
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Speaker 7: try to neutralize dany E Gay. That might be his

2180
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 7: best bet, but then that's not gonna make it very

2181
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 7: exciting here, so he's kind of in a pickle here.

2182
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Speaker 7: What I would like to see is the winner of

2183
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 7: this fight has to shave the beard or the head of.

2184
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Speaker 6: The other guys so they don't look so damn alike.

2185
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 7: Have you seen these guys? How are you gonna tell

2186
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 7: them apart? It's gotta be a razor blade match at

2187
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 7: the end of the fight. One guy's gotta shave the

2188
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 7: other guy's beard or something like that. Any Either way,

2189
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 7: who do I think that guy's gonna be. I think

2190
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 7: it's gonna be Danny. I think Egay's gonna take.

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Speaker 6: This one, all right, Briy. That brings us to a

2192
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Speaker 6: featured bout in the welcherweight division. Kevin Holland minus three

2193
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 6: ninety five Daniel Rodriguez plus three ten. So most of

2194
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,719
Speaker 6: our listeners will probably remember those crazy days surrounding UFC

2195
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 6: two seventy nine when these guys were to face each

2196
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 6: other in twenty twenty two, and that entire fight card

2197
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 6: got reshuffled late in the week. De Rod ended up

2198
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 6: facing Leeching Leong escape with a split. Holland of course

2199
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 6: elevated to face Kamzat Chimai if that did not go

2200
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 6: exceedingly well. And now they both have momentum and this

2201
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 6: fight has been rebooked. Brian Petrie, you like halland the

2202
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 6: near four to one favorite or De Rod the dog.

2203
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna try to contain my excitement because I

2204
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 4: feel like whoever I pick, Kenny's gonna go stomp on

2205
01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 4: my nuts after this because the guy's hot right now,

2206
01:45:58,240 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 4: he has the every right to stomp on the nut.

2207
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 4: But I'm all over Kevin Holland. I think this is

2208
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 4: a tailor made matchup for Kevin Holland. Kevin Holland looks

2209
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 4: really good against strikers, right, it's always a close fight.

2210
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 4: I think he's superior to an older guy, and Rodriguez

2211
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 4: who's a little bit slower, throws a lot of straight punches.

2212
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 4: No disrespond from d rod He's got nineteen eighty six

2213
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 4: on the chest. That's the best year that was, That's

2214
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 4: when I was born, right, This dude's a real deal.

2215
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 4: But when he's fought Kevin h excuse me, Danie Rodriguez

2216
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 4: has fallen short to the elite strikers. Is Kevin Holland

2217
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 4: elite striker? I don't know, but I think he's an

2218
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 4: elite guy at one seventy. At one seventy, he's nasty, right,

2219
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 4: and I think this fight is gonna come down to

2220
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 4: a little bit of the ground game. I think Kevin Holland,

2221
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 4: who gets bulled around, gets bullied around a little bit

2222
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 4: at eighty five not gonna happen. I think this is

2223
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 4: gonna be a little bit of a club and stuff.

2224
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 4: I think Kevin's gonna hit him with something, hit the mat,

2225
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 4: get one of those front chokes over. I like Kevin Holland.

2226
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 4: I like Kevin Holland by sub I'm all over it.

2227
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 4: The only thing I'm not like screaming for is the

2228
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 4: numbers a little high. I think Vegas is dead right

2229
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 4: on this one. He's almost a four to one favorite

2230
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 4: Minas Street through ninety five. But yeah, I like big

2231
01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 4: mouth here. I think big mouth gets it done and

2232
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 4: it is a really good Matthim Kenny.

2233
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 6: Kevin Holland thirty two years of age, fifteen to ten

2234
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 6: with a no contest in the UFC, but a couple

2235
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 6: of huge wins recently against Gunner Nelson and Vicente Luke

2236
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 6: have a lot of people sort of fancying him a

2237
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 6: legitimate contender now in the welcherweight division. Rodriguez is gonna

2238
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 6: be thirty nine in December, had a big stop ach

2239
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:20,680
Speaker 6: win over Santiago Ponzinnibio back in May. Who do you

2240
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 6: like at seventy kids? That's right? De rod is very

2241
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 6: very dangerous.

2242
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 7: I think he's got knockout power and Kevin Holland's definitely

2243
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 7: gonna have to respect that. He's gonna have to use

2244
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 7: his range to keep Rodriguez on the outside, use a

2245
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 7: lot of kicks, mix things up, and I think if

2246
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 7: he's able to do that, uh compounded with his speed,

2247
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 7: I think this is a great style, stylistic matchup for him.

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01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 6: So Brian, I'm with you here. I'll take my cleats off.

2249
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:46,640
Speaker 7: I won't step on your nuts and yeah, I'm I'm

2250
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 7: quite bullish on.

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Speaker 6: Kevin Holland here.

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01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 7: Uh so yeah, might might might, uh might get a

2253
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:54,679
Speaker 7: little too excited for this one.

2254
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 4: So let's see.

2255
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 6: Maybe some parley fodder later. Talking to the money, place your bets,

2256
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 6: all right, I have had a midwight Russian striker Roman

2257
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:05,719
Speaker 6: Koppolov minus two forty five taking on Brazil's Paolo Costa,

2258
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 6: who is the plus two hundred underdog. These men were

2259
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 6: born thirteen days apart from each other in the year

2260
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety one. More recently, Kopolov has handled his UFC

2261
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 6: business quite well. He's won six of seven. Only man

2262
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 6: to beat him in that stretch Anthony Fluffy Hernandez, whom

2263
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 6: this room absolutely loves. Costa really has underachieved bryh relative

2264
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 6: to expectation, just one win since he beat Joel Romero

2265
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 6: back in twenty nineteen. How do you think he fars

2266
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 6: this weekend?

2267
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I don't understand. Listen,

2268
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:37,679
Speaker 4: I get it. He's a hunk, he's ripped, he's funny,

2269
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 4: but he doesn't really deliver in the caves. I mean,

2270
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 4: the fights are exciting, but he needs to win fights

2271
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 4: I and getting this komain here is very interesting. I

2272
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 4: think this is a huge opportunity for Copylov because even

2273
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,640
Speaker 4: though he's not winning, Costa still has that name, he

2274
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 4: still has that recognition. He's Brazilian superman, you know what

2275
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 4: I mean. People want to get a win over him,

2276
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 4: and I think Copylof can get a win over him.

2277
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 4: And Kapiloff looked really good against guy Kurtz Curtiz, my

2278
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:01,559
Speaker 4: guy who was just on the show out here, shout

2279
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 4: out Chris Curtis hady birthday. He got to win over

2280
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 4: Chris Cursi and look dynamic doing it right. Chris is

2281
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 4: primarily a boxer, just like Costa is, and copy Loof

2282
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 4: exposed a lot of that through a lot of kicks,

2283
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:15,600
Speaker 4: a lot of movement in there, and got Chris with

2284
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 4: the head kick, and that's something that Costa has been

2285
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 4: prone to do. He has eaten just flat out eating

2286
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 4: head kicks and fights. Didn't flinch. But I think copy

2287
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 4: loft I was high on him coming to the UFC.

2288
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:26,679
Speaker 4: You know, I got a lot of shit. I posted

2289
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 4: an Instagram video about how like this dude's coming in

2290
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 4: or whatever. He went oing too and people were like, bro,

2291
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 4: you're the dumbest guy in the world. Get the fuck

2292
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 4: out of here, right, and now look at him like

2293
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:37,559
Speaker 4: he's a solid guy in this division. He can wrestle

2294
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,959
Speaker 4: a little bit when he needs to, but his striking

2295
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 4: is the money right and his piston left hand, his

2296
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 4: straight punches are there, his kicks are phenomenal, and I

2297
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 4: think Costa is going to have to stalk him and

2298
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 4: really put pressure and try to break this guy. I

2299
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 4: don't see that happening. I like copy loft here minus

2300
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 4: two forty five is what I expect to pay here.

2301
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm gonna get there. Definitely a

2302
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:01,640
Speaker 4: parlay piece for me. Costa nails though the guys you

2303
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 4: know who knows what he's made of. But I don't

2304
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 4: see him getting fished in this point. I think it's

2305
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:07,879
Speaker 4: gonna be a decision when my Copylaf. I think Copylof

2306
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:10,200
Speaker 4: is gonna make it look pretty good in those first

2307
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:12,640
Speaker 4: two rounds and then and then go for cost is

2308
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 4: gonna go for broken that third and he's got to

2309
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 4: be careful, but yeah, give me room and Copilof can flow.

2310
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 6: Palo Costa's older brother, Carlos, has talked about all the

2311
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 6: hard work that his younger brother has done in preparation

2312
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 6: for this fight. You know, Illness and random injuries have

2313
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,720
Speaker 6: really been the narrative for Palo Costa. Even this fight

2314
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 6: right was supposed to happen and Costa had to pull out,

2315
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:36,600
Speaker 6: I think at UFC three seventeen, you know, So I

2316
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 6: don't know the extent to which cost is going to

2317
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,680
Speaker 6: grapple or how he's going to approach it, but can

2318
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 6: flow will need a prediction on the comin event on

2319
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 6: now but right now, yeah, I mean, which Paulo Costa

2320
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 6: is gonna show up? I think that's the question, you know.

2321
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,720
Speaker 7: And when I'm looking at this fight, I value consistency.

2322
01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 7: And you look at their records and they're very similar

2323
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 7: fourteen to three against fourteen four, But the last four

2324
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 7: fights tell a very different story. One a couple off

2325
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 7: going three and one, and the other in cost of

2326
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 7: going one in three. So yeah, you know, there's a

2327
01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 7: lot of things that can go wrong in the sport,

2328
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 7: from injuries to illnesses to whatever. But I haven't loved

2329
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 7: what I've seen from Costa. You know, I want to

2330
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 7: see more volume, I want to see more passion while

2331
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 7: he's fighting and so many times he takes his foot

2332
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:24,599
Speaker 7: off the gas and going against a guy in couple off,

2333
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 7: you just cannot do that. This guy is way too dangerous,

2334
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,600
Speaker 7: so can cost to win this fight, You better believe it.

2335
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 7: But I like the consistency of Copolov, so on, I'm

2336
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 7: going that route.

2337
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's well laid out and efficient as well. Right,

2338
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 6: Just passion and urgency in fight consistently. Right. He is

2339
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 6: in this slot for his entertainment value and understandably so.

2340
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,719
Speaker 6: But yeah, the pockets of inactivity and just that word

2341
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 6: passion really resonated with me. Ken flow all right. Right

2342
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 6: back to Florian for the main event lightweight BMF title.

2343
01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 6: The former featherweight king Max Holloway is the minus one

2344
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 6: twenty five betting favorite right now on DraftKings Sportsbook. Dustin

2345
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:05,640
Speaker 6: Poier is the plus one oh five betting underdog. It

2346
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 6: is the third meeting in the series, first since their

2347
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:10,719
Speaker 6: epic clash at UFC two thirty six back in twenty nineteen.

2348
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 6: Poorier thirty six thirty second UFC appearance. The retirement fight,

2349
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 6: of course, comes in his home arena, Smoothie King Center

2350
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 6: in New Orleans. He has not competed since that lost

2351
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 6: to Islamikashev that was June first of twenty twenty four,

2352
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:27,560
Speaker 6: and now trying to make it three to zero in

2353
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 6: his series with Max Holloway, Ken Flow will take a

2354
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 6: pick on the main event. The floor is yours. How

2355
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 6: do you not love both of these fighters?

2356
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 7: Both these guys are so beloved, So I feel like

2357
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 7: this is maybe the only fight where the fans lose

2358
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,640
Speaker 7: in this one, because you know, I don't know. I

2359
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 7: think this is one of those fights where both guys

2360
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 7: are gonna be beloved, Like whoever wins this five people

2361
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 7: are gonna be excited, but they're gonna be equally as

2362
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:52,759
Speaker 7: sad for the guy that loses.

2363
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 6: And Holloway absolute legend.

2364
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 7: I think that this is the first time that he's

2365
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 7: fighting Dustin Poier where he is truly he is one

2366
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty five pound fighter.

2367
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 6: I don't think that was the case. Obviously they fought

2368
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:04,719
Speaker 6: at one forty five.

2369
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 7: The first time around, but the second time around, I

2370
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 7: don't think he truly was a one to fifty five.

2371
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 6: I think he's been working on his power.

2372
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 7: I think we've been seeing that result, you know, come

2373
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,679
Speaker 7: to fruition in the form of that knockout win over

2374
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 7: Gae Chee with one second to go. He just looks

2375
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 7: extremely confident heading into this fight against Dustin Poorier. But

2376
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 7: you know, Dustin Poier, it doesn't matter who he's fighting,

2377
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 7: He's always going in there for the kill. He's going

2378
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 7: in the front to entertain. He's going to be fighting

2379
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:35,640
Speaker 7: in his home state. This is his last hurrah.

2380
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 6: He knows that.

2381
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 7: Everybody else knows it. So I think we're going to

2382
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:41,679
Speaker 7: get a Dustin Poier. Talk about passion, talk about urgency.

2383
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 7: Who's going to have all of those things in this fight?

2384
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 7: What happens when those two things collide? I don't exactly know,

2385
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 7: but I am leaning the way of Max Holloway. I

2386
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 7: think Max Holloway comes back extremely strong after a loss,

2387
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:03,599
Speaker 7: and not mentally we know that, but technically, I've been

2388
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 7: very impressed with the people that he surrounded himself with.

2389
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 7: I think his coaches are very very smart. I think

2390
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 7: they're always looking for ways to improve, as is Max Holloway.

2391
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 7: Dustin Poier certainly has been that. But as far as gains,

2392
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 7: I've seen a little bit more gains from Holloway. I

2393
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:22,639
Speaker 7: think he's gonna be tough to take down. I think

2394
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 7: he's gonna he's gonna fill into this weight class a

2395
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 7: lot more so because of that, I'm leaning uh towards

2396
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 7: Max Holloway and you know, fight either way. This is

2397
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 7: a great way to honor a true legend in Dustin Poier.

2398
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 7: And I still think that Max Holloway has a lot

2399
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 7: of gas left in the tank. And the fact that

2400
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 7: he's not only talking about continuing to fight, but the

2401
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:48,919
Speaker 7: fact that he envisions himself fighting toward Pouri in a rematch,

2402
01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 7: I think is a very good sign.

2403
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 6: All those un heralded coaches on the Holloway side, Ryland Lazars,

2404
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 6: Ivan Flores, Michael Nakagawa, Jordan Rita in the corner as well.

2405
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 6: Halloway slight betting favorite right now on DraftKings Sportsbook. Fascinated

2406
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:06,080
Speaker 6: to see how it plays out. Brian Petrie, the time

2407
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 6: is now. Who do you like at UFC three one eight?

2408
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 4: Well, I tell you what. I like this fight. I

2409
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 4: actually love this fight.

2410
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 6: Man.

2411
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 4: What does this say? First off, shout out the UFC

2412
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 4: production team whoever does the countdown shows, because this countdown

2413
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 4: is so good you don't need all the shit talk.

2414
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 4: Two classy dudes who it's unbelievable. Just go watch that

2415
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 4: on YouTube or wherever you want to watch the ESPN plus.

2416
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 4: Max Hollway's a rare guy, right, this is I think

2417
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 4: that maybe the first guy and only guy in UFC

2418
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 4: history to get a trilogy fight where he's oering too.

2419
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 4: He was oh and too against Vault, got the third

2420
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 4: fight oh and two against Poorie, got the No one's

2421
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 4: complaining because it's Max all the way. He's unbelievable, right

2422
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 4: the first fight, one forty five year race. At second fight,

2423
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 4: I was in the building right there when the best

2424
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 4: live events I've ever seen, Max was a blown up

2425
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 4: forty five or he wasn't quite fifty five. Kenny nailed it.

2426
01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 4: He wasn't there yet the fifty five Max, I thought, justin, Gaegee,

2427
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 4: that's a fifty five, and I'm assuming he's going to

2428
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 4: come into this fight just as in good as shape.

2429
01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 4: And you saw the power he planned his fee not

2430
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 4: out Gaegee. It's just super impressive. Even before that. He

2431
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 4: hurt geategy in that fight, and he was doing really

2432
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 4: well against a powerful guy like Gaigie. But man, what's

2433
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 4: there to be said about Dustin Porie. The guy's done

2434
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 4: it all. I mean storybook career. I love that he's

2435
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 4: ending in against a guy like Max's first class. He's

2436
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 4: gonna do all that shit talking in New Orleans where

2437
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 4: he started, and then a fight that can't be born,

2438
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 4: It just can't. He's gonna go out Dustin Poier style.

2439
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 4: He's gonna go out guns of blazing. This is going

2440
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 4: to be a back and forth striking match. I think

2441
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 4: they might want to grap a little bit just to

2442
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 4: maybe mix up so they can do some more striking,

2443
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 4: just to keep the other guy in the toes, But

2444
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 4: primarily this is going to be a striking match. In

2445
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 4: their second fight, Max landed war strikes Dustin land at

2446
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,920
Speaker 4: the bigger strikes. I think that's what's gonna happen here.

2447
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 4: Max leads a lot, but Dustin calendars really well. That's

2448
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 4: how he got Connor two times out. Last time he

2449
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 4: fought Connor, he got them both on really beautiful counters.

2450
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 4: Dustin at thirty six is just really clean in his boxing.

2451
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 4: He's confident in his shit. He's confident to be able

2452
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 4: to get hurt come back for him. He's never gonna quit.

2453
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 4: And you gotta love that. There's not many people like

2454
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:00,160
Speaker 4: Dustin Poier and I'm sad to see him go, but

2455
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 4: I'm glad he's getting the right off the way he

2456
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 4: is without brain damage and all that stuff. He's getting

2457
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 4: to go out in his own terms. The guys are

2458
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 4: superstarting no matter what he does. I like dp here,

2459
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 4: I like Poorier. I just think he has Max's number.

2460
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 4: I think in the boxing and the power is still

2461
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 4: going to favor Dustin Poorier. I think he's super sharp

2462
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 4: and cleaning there. I think Max is gonna throw out

2463
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 4: of volume. And I'm really still curious to see how

2464
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 4: Max rebounds after getting knocked out for the first time.

2465
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 4: Mentally he looks all there. Mentally he looks great. I've

2466
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 4: been watching his YouTube preparing his coaches. They got him

2467
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 4: dialed in, but he doesn't know what it's like until

2468
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 4: you get in there, like after getting that first punch, Like,

2469
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:38,240
Speaker 4: can I still take it like I used to write,

2470
01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 4: which I think won't be a problem because Max is

2471
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 4: a different kind of dude. But regardless, I think Dustin

2472
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 4: Poier is gonna get it done here. I love this.

2473
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 4: I hope he gets the BMF title. Rise Off in

2474
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 4: the Sunset, And Yeah, I just can't talk good, good

2475
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 4: things enough about dustin Porties first class guy, give me.

2476
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 6: DP and it is interesting. We're not for that brawl

2477
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 6: between Kabi Romago Medav and Connor McGregor. After UFC two

2478
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:02,600
Speaker 6: twenty nine, that interim lightweight title fight between Holloway and

2479
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 6: Poorier would have ceased to exist. All right, final order

2480
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 6: today and appreciate everybody being with us live for two

2481
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,440
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2482
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2484
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2485
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:22,680
Speaker 6: Team Petree was minus twelve thousand dollars in change. Good

2486
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 6: week for you though, Brian AFC three seventeen, two thousand

2487
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 6: dollars parlay on Ilia Topoitia and all DeSandre Pantoja page

2488
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 6: of thirteen seventy nine and change also hit on to

2489
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 6: Poitia by knockout, had one hundred dollars on Terence McKinney

2490
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 6: by round one submission of plus three eighty did have

2491
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 6: a loss on Jackermanson for five hundred dollars for the

2492
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 6: week plus fourteen eighty seven eighty eight cents. Shaves your

2493
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 6: appreciable not down to minus ten thousand, nine hundred and

2494
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 6: eighty six dollars and fifty seven cents. Team Florian was

2495
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 6: at plus three thousand, eight hundred and twenty dollars and

2496
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 6: eight cents. You had a fifteen hundred dollars straight wager

2497
01:58:57,400 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 6: on Joshua Van nicely done there. That page of fourteen

2498
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 6: twenty eight also parlay Topotia and Pantosia as Brian did it.

2499
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 6: Did lose five hundred dollars on Felipe Lema against Peyton Talbot.

2500
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:11,879
Speaker 6: But another strong week for Ken flow plus sixteen hundred

2501
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 6: and eighteen dollars. Year to date for Kenny plus five thousand,

2502
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 6: four hundred and thirty eight dollars and thirty one cents.

2503
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 6: All right, three thousand dollars to spend. It is a

2504
01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 6: pay per view week, YOUFC three to eighteen. Brian Petrie

2505
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:25,959
Speaker 6: leads us off as always.

2506
01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 4: I mean, Kenny's shooting the lights out at the gym.

2507
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 4: I mean I have a good week as a better week.

2508
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 4: But listen, chip Away, chip Away, chip Away, We're gonna

2509
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 4: do it. Yes, I'm gonna spread the money around. I

2510
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 4: really wanted to just load up on Loak Dog. I

2511
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 4: know a lot of people don't like when I do that,

2512
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 4: so we're gonna mix it up. So give me three

2513
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 4: hundred dollars on Dustin Poier plus one oh five. I

2514
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 4: like jener Dog money, I like DP. Give me one

2515
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:51,240
Speaker 4: hundred dollars of Michael Johnson that plus three eighty. I can't,

2516
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I have to bet that. Give me four

2517
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 4: hundred on ol of Era, yep. Give me two hundred

2518
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,600
Speaker 4: on Kevin Holland by sub which I'll is that number

2519
02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:02,440
Speaker 4: for you later this week, Johnny. And then give me

2520
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 4: a thousand on Kevin Holland money line. I was gonna

2521
02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 4: parlay up and I didn't want to get too cute.

2522
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 4: Give me I know it's a big number, but we'll

2523
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:11,120
Speaker 4: win about three hundred bucks on that, so I'll take

2524
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 4: it all right.

2525
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 6: So Petree three hundred straight on Dustin Poortier, one hundred

2526
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 6: bucks on Michael Johnson, four hundred dollars on lock Dog,

2527
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 6: two hundred on Kevin Holland by submission, and one thousand

2528
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 6: dollars on Kevin Holland on the money line. That brings

2529
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 6: us to the leader in any clubhouse. Kenny Floory, looking

2530
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 6: to add to his totals, Who do you have this weekend.

2531
02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:28,680
Speaker 6: My brother.

2532
02:00:29,080 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, a little little boring here, but I'm gonna put

2533
02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 7: all three thousand on Kevin Holland whoo.

2534
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:39,400
Speaker 6: Yeah he's not here to take part. Man.

2535
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 4: Let me when I do that and bring in the

2536
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:45,600
Speaker 4: comments like be pea, spread your money. Kenny's doing it

2537
02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:49,080
Speaker 4: like this a shark fucking movement.

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Speaker 6: Mean you know that whole fuck around and find out.

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Speaker 6: Brian Petrie can be heard on the MMA Takes podcast

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Speaker 6: later this week for a more in depth look at

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Speaker 6: UFC three eighteen. Brother, we you appreciate you anything else

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Speaker 6: before we let you fly?

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Speaker 4: Nothing good to see you, boy, It's been about two

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Speaker 4: weeks since I saw you. You guys are the best

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Speaker 4: in Enjoy your week.

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Speaker 6: Thank you buddy. Here to Brian Petrie with us for

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Speaker 6: place your bets and the main event challenge. We gotta

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Speaker 6: get on out of here, don't forget to get it

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Speaker 6: over to UFC Fight Pass. Later in the week, Ken

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Speaker 6: Fall and I looked back at the entire two fight

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Speaker 6: series between Dustin Pourier and Max Holloway, including that five

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Speaker 6: round fight at UFC two thirty six in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 6: Thank you to Ray long Ago, Jason Annik, the Action Man,

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Speaker 6: Chris Curtis and Brian Petrie for joining us today, and

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Speaker 6: thanks to all of you for joining us live. Thanks

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Speaker 6: to our executive producer Cody Merrow. We are back with

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Speaker 6: you on Monday to recap the pay per view that

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Speaker 6: was in New Orleans at UFC three eighteen. I also

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Speaker 6: have an appearance coming up I think Friday night in

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Speaker 6: New Orleans, so stay tuned to my social channels for

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Speaker 6: that if you happen to be in the area with that.

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Speaker 6: For Kemflow, I'm John and thank you all for watching

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Speaker 6: for listening until next Monday. Have a great week, enjoy

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Speaker 6: the pay per view YO later.

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