Speaker 1: We're not always going to be happy, but we can
Speaker 1: find our way pretty quickly to being peaceful about what
Speaker 1: is accepting. We can be at peace. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: one you feed Throughout time, great thinkers have recognized the
Speaker 1: importance of the thoughts we have, quotes like garbage in,
Speaker 1: garbage out, or you are what you think ring true.
Speaker 1: And yet for many of us, our thoughts don't strengthen
Speaker 1: or empower us. We tend toward negativity, self pity, jealousy,
Speaker 1: or fear. We see what we don't have instead of
Speaker 1: what we do. We think things that hold us back
Speaker 1: and dampen our spirit. But it's not just about thinking.
Speaker 1: Our actions matter. It takes conscious, consistent, and creative effort
Speaker 1: to make a life worth living. This podcast is about
Speaker 1: how other people keep themselves moving in the right direction,
Speaker 1: how they feed their good wolf m Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1: Our guest on this episode is Brandon Beecham, a podcaster, entrepreneur, writer, philosopher,
Speaker 1: and truth seeker. He's the host of the Positive Head podcast,
Speaker 1: which has amassed over twenty million downloads and reached number
Speaker 1: two in the spirituality category on Apple Podcasts. Brandon recently
Speaker 1: launched a new late night style consciousness elevating talk show
Speaker 1: called Optimistic, as well as his first book, The Golden
Speaker 1: Key Modern Alchemy to Unlock Infinite Abundance. Hey Brandon, welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. Hello, Hello Eric, Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for having me. It's a pleasure, yes, and it is
Speaker 1: a pleasure for me to be on your show because
Speaker 1: we are recording a joint episode. I am excited about that.
Speaker 1: It's been a few years since I actually did the
Speaker 1: same thing with on it a couple of times over
Speaker 1: the years with Positive Head in. You know, for me,
Speaker 1: any time I have the chance to be a little
Speaker 1: bit creative and mix it up, I usually jump on
Speaker 1: that chance for better or for worse. But my past
Speaker 1: experiences have been really great doing this, so I'm excited
Speaker 1: to have the one you feed in Positive Head podcast
Speaker 1: mash up awesome. Well, I am all for honoring both
Speaker 1: the traditional and the novel, and so to honor the traditional,
Speaker 1: I'm going to read the Wolf Parable and ask you
Speaker 1: what you think about It is a place to kick
Speaker 1: off because we've always done it, and you know, some
Speaker 1: streaks are worth keeping. So in the parable, there is
Speaker 1: a grandparent talking with their grandchild and they say, in
Speaker 1: life there are two wolves inside of us that are
Speaker 1: always at battle. One is a good wolf, which represents
Speaker 1: things like kindness and bravery and love, and then there's
Speaker 1: a bad wolf, which represents things like greed and hatred
Speaker 1: and fear. And the grandchild stops, thinks about it for
Speaker 1: a second, looks up at their grandparents as well. Which
Speaker 1: one wins, and the grandparents says, the one you feed.
Speaker 1: So I'd love to ask you what that parable means
Speaker 1: to you in your life and in the work that
Speaker 1: you do. It's so relevant in my life and in
Speaker 1: the work that I do. I'll share a little bit
Speaker 1: as an answer. Go back to two thousand fourteen. I'm
Speaker 1: standing in front of my at the time, probably seventy
Speaker 1: five employees or so, and I'm standing in front of
Speaker 1: all my employees giving a talk about the importance of
Speaker 1: the thoughts and what's happening in our head. And I said,
Speaker 1: if I could only take the positive thoughts and the
Speaker 1: negative thoughts and see them at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe even have some cool new technology
Speaker 1: where every time I had a negative one, it zapped
Speaker 1: me a little bit and and just helped to point
Speaker 1: out a you're off track here I would know the
Speaker 1: outcome of my future if I could start to see
Speaker 1: that these positive thoughts were far outweighing the negative ones.
Speaker 1: And I had a young guy run up to me
Speaker 1: afterwards who had just started working with us. He said, Brandan,
Speaker 1: there is something like that. My psychiatrist told me years
Speaker 1: ago to where rubber band and snap myself every time
Speaker 1: I had a negative thought, and it helped me tremendously.
Speaker 1: And I thought, huh, what an interesting idea. I'll go
Speaker 1: home and look for a rubber band and just try
Speaker 1: this out for myself. And I found a head racket
Speaker 1: elastic that would keep my racquetball racket on my hand
Speaker 1: if it's left out. And I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is elastic, and what do you know. It says head
Speaker 1: on it. It's for a positive head, I'll you know.
Speaker 1: And that's literally how the podcast was born, with this
Speaker 1: whole idea of feeding that positive voice in your head
Speaker 1: and having a technique or or method for doing so,
Speaker 1: and in my case, almost sevent episodes later of talking
Speaker 1: about that, so the fact that we're doing a mash
Speaker 1: up is perfect. Yes, seventeen episodes, that's amazing. You know.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I wanted to explore with
Speaker 1: you a little bit is kind of what you just
Speaker 1: said right there, which is this idea of positive and
Speaker 1: negative thoughts. You've interviewed a lot of people. I've interviewed
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I have feel like I've got
Speaker 1: a little bit of my finger on the pulse of
Speaker 1: where the spiritual psychological self help movement is and where
Speaker 1: it's going. And there's been a real trend towards allowing
Speaker 1: everything that arises in our experience to arise in our
Speaker 1: experience and to be okay with it. You know, that
Speaker 1: aligns with your message. How do we do that as
Speaker 1: well as what you just sort of said, which is like,
Speaker 1: all right, positive thoughts, good negative thoughts, snap myself with
Speaker 1: a rubber band. How do we honor both those things
Speaker 1: without slipping into the word that's being used these days,
Speaker 1: which is toxic positivity? Yeah, yeah, what a great question.
Speaker 1: You know. I talk a lot on my my show
Speaker 1: about relative truths to apparently contradictory things that both hold
Speaker 1: true depending on the vantage point from which one is speaking.
Speaker 1: As an example, you and I are separate. We can
Speaker 1: make an argument for that that most people would agree with.
Speaker 1: We can also make an argument that you and I
Speaker 1: are one in the separation between us as an illusion.
Speaker 1: That's a little more of an esoteric, you know, phil
Speaker 1: esophical point, But I would definitely be happy to make
Speaker 1: an argument for that. And so both vantage points are true,
Speaker 1: it's just relative. And so I think there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of that here with toxic positivity. I think it's
Speaker 1: funny because everything in our reality is a mirror of
Speaker 1: sorts too, so I think the idea of toxic positivity
Speaker 1: can become toxic in itself. It's just, you know, this
Speaker 1: idea that you know you shouldn't reach for seeing the
Speaker 1: silver lining or for for me. You know, I always
Speaker 1: say the only thing that we really have control over
Speaker 1: is the story we tell around something. You know, why
Speaker 1: is this happening for me? And for me? I've really
Speaker 1: by training myself too. It doesn't mean I can't have
Speaker 1: a negative thought or feel down, or feel bad, or
Speaker 1: feel off or feel depressed. And when I do agree,
Speaker 1: if you land there, allow it to be what you resist,
Speaker 1: persist what you accept, You move through. And these emotions,
Speaker 1: energy and motion are going to move through us at times,
Speaker 1: certainly end if we can catch it early enough before
Speaker 1: the momentum builds a lot of times, it's just training to,
Speaker 1: you know, catch yourself. Then you can head that off
Speaker 1: from needing to go there if it is there. As
Speaker 1: my friend Matt con says, whatever rises love that, you know,
Speaker 1: can I be the space for this? As Zakart totally says,
Speaker 1: So you know, not pointing a finger and saying bad
Speaker 1: and good. Rather what am I going to sort of
Speaker 1: train myself for? And I think you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people we will say expectation as an issue. I
Speaker 1: think attachment to the expectations is the real issue. We
Speaker 1: have all kinds of expectations with a healthy sense of
Speaker 1: detachment this or something better, what's for me will be
Speaker 1: for me. If I have something challenging I'm meant to
Speaker 1: go through and I'm meant to you know, really be
Speaker 1: in the depths of despair, then I'm going to you know,
Speaker 1: embrace that and not push it away and label it
Speaker 1: as bad. So I think that's where we really get
Speaker 1: hung up as when we start saying I should never
Speaker 1: have that experience, because you absolutely are going to have
Speaker 1: that experience, And that contrast is what gives anything meaning.
Speaker 1: It's actually a necessary component. You've never seen a great
Speaker 1: work of art without shadow in it, and we are
Speaker 1: our soul's expression of art, I believe. So it's a dance.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your thoughts of course on that too. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I like you and very much into the idea of
Speaker 1: absolute and relative. It's something and Zen we talk a
Speaker 1: lot about you know, the doctor and the two truths.
Speaker 1: You know, you hit it perfectly there. From one angle,
Speaker 1: this thing might very much be a challenge or a problem, right,
Speaker 1: and from another angle, everything is okay. One of the
Speaker 1: things I'm so interested in is how do we know
Speaker 1: what approach, what tool to use at what time that's
Speaker 1: going to help us the most. Because we're all really
Speaker 1: different and we're all really changing. So if we're like, well,
Speaker 1: any negative thought is bad and I'm going to get
Speaker 1: rid of it, there may be a period of time
Speaker 1: that that's a useful exercise. If you're just overrun by
Speaker 1: constant negativity, I mean, that might be useful. It might
Speaker 1: also not work for you at all. So everything that
Speaker 1: I propose, everything that people that come on the show propose,
Speaker 1: I think is I love the way you said it
Speaker 1: from a certain perspective is useful. And so where somebody
Speaker 1: is starting from and what their tendencies are really has
Speaker 1: a lot to do with what's the right approach to
Speaker 1: work in their way through the challenges that they're facing.
Speaker 1: It's the same idea you hear people talk about spiritual bypass, like, Okay, yep,
Speaker 1: spiritual bypass probably not good if I'm using spirituality to
Speaker 1: avoid my feelings, and deep spiritual insight that gives me
Speaker 1: a sense of equanimity in the face of everything is
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing to be cultivated. So I don't think
Speaker 1: it's either or, And I think early on I was
Speaker 1: looking for more clear answers like should I do this,
Speaker 1: or you know, should listeners do this or should they
Speaker 1: do that? And what I really come to, particularly with
Speaker 1: you know, coaching hundreds and hundreds of people and running
Speaker 1: people through programs is we're not all built the same,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not all conditioned the same. There's there's
Speaker 1: so many variables. You've got to kind of find, all, right,
Speaker 1: what's helpful for me now, and know that what's helpful
Speaker 1: for you now probably may not be helpful for you
Speaker 1: in the same way in six months, because you'll be
Speaker 1: a different person. Yeah. Absolutely, I like the idea that
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes people are hung up on I came
Speaker 1: here to be happy, right, yes, and you came here
Speaker 1: to be sad and angry and hurt, and you came
Speaker 1: here for the full gamut of emotions. There is no
Speaker 1: happy without sad, up without down, left without right, hot
Speaker 1: without cold in this dimension anyway, And so it's necessary
Speaker 1: that contrast. So when you can appreciate all of the contrast,
Speaker 1: now you're moving into a state of really an expanded perspective.
Speaker 1: You're you're seeing the bigger picture. And I like to say,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not always going to be happy, but
Speaker 1: we can find our way pretty quickly to being peaceful
Speaker 1: about what is. Accepting, we can be at peace. And
Speaker 1: if I can be at peace with what is, because
Speaker 1: I understand, even though I chose, my human level consciousness
Speaker 1: chose this is what I envision happening in the direction
Speaker 1: I want to go, in the expectation I have, and
Speaker 1: something totally different and challenging arises. Okay, I trust that
Speaker 1: the way I say it is, I'm doing to dance
Speaker 1: with my higher self to create my experience. And there's
Speaker 1: a lot that goes into that soup of creation and
Speaker 1: manifestation and whatever is going to appear, even though I
Speaker 1: may not have chosen it from my level of awareness,
Speaker 1: I trust it. One of the keys in in my
Speaker 1: new book, The Golden Key is trust the mystery. And
Speaker 1: so I may not know exactly why, but I trust
Speaker 1: this process of my life unfolding, and that brings me peace.
Speaker 1: And what I've often found is when I can move
Speaker 1: into that state, actually your challenges can transmute ultimately into blessings.
Speaker 1: It sometimes may take a while, and you may not
Speaker 1: even see that until beyond this life, who knows, or
Speaker 1: it might be a day or a week or an hour.
Speaker 1: But it's sort of like you probably heard the story
Speaker 1: of the Buddhist farmer before. Yeah, oh yeah, it's one
Speaker 1: of my favorites. Yeah, it's so good, right, And so
Speaker 1: it really helps to kind of tie this up in
Speaker 1: a bow that we can all wrap our heads around
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. There's an interesting point to what you just said,
Speaker 1: and I think it's an important point. If you view
Speaker 1: the world and reality as existing beyond what we see
Speaker 1: here in these zero to a hundred years that most
Speaker 1: of us are going to live. If you have that viewpoint,
Speaker 1: in that belief, you can start to go maybe this
Speaker 1: is all working towards quote unquote my ultimate good. When
Speaker 1: you only have the advantage of this lifetime, I think
Speaker 1: that becomes harder because I look at things that happen
Speaker 1: and I go again, I'm with you, You've got to
Speaker 1: trust the mystery. Like I don't know why things happen
Speaker 1: the way they do. But I see a child born
Speaker 1: into torment, abused or years and dies and You're like, well, okay,
Speaker 1: what the hell do I do with that? You know,
Speaker 1: how is that for anyone's better or higher good? And
Speaker 1: I think that's where some of the law of attraction
Speaker 1: stuff gets difficult for me. Is it starts to imply
Speaker 1: that child somehow brought that on themselves. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of where I get hung up. But I'd love to
Speaker 1: get your thought on that, because I know you think
Speaker 1: about these things really deeply, and I know that oftentimes
Speaker 1: the law of attraction is presented in a way oversimplified way,
Speaker 1: and I think of it probably in an oversimplified way.
Speaker 1: Often it definitely can be presented in an oversimplified way.
Speaker 1: I had a guest recently on my show who said
Speaker 1: something that I agree with it. I also think it
Speaker 1: can be deeply triggering and troubling for people. And it
Speaker 1: is that there are no victims, only volunteers. And when
Speaker 1: you start to play with the idea that we're eternal beings,
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't created on my birthday. I always
Speaker 1: write people on faithbook or whatever, and it's their birthday,
Speaker 1: Happy three D, incarnation and versary. So I believe that's
Speaker 1: the day we came in. So when you look at
Speaker 1: law of attraction, and I talk about this in my
Speaker 1: book The Golden Key, is like, it's much more complex. Then.
Speaker 1: Let me sit in the corner, you know, Indian style
Speaker 1: for ten minutes and think about a ferrari and it's
Speaker 1: going to pull into my driveway. It's like, no, the
Speaker 1: soup of creation is much more complex than that. You know,
Speaker 1: what is the vibrational offering? That which is like unto
Speaker 1: itself is drawn right, water seeks its own level. So
Speaker 1: if everything is vibration, and of course science and physics
Speaker 1: support this, we know this like is attracting like in
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form. Well, okay, over what time
Speaker 1: period are we talking about? And is it what the
Speaker 1: vibrational offering I've made today or last week or last
Speaker 1: year when I was ten years old, or now you
Speaker 1: start getting into this idea of beyond this physical life,
Speaker 1: parallel lives. Right, if, as Einstein pointed out time as
Speaker 1: an illusion, you shoot me in outer space and bring
Speaker 1: me back a day later, I'm a day older and
Speaker 1: you've been gone for a hundred years or something like that,
Speaker 1: we know that it's relative. So that implies then that
Speaker 1: my fifth birthday party is happening on another channel that
Speaker 1: I'm just not tuned into. So uh, you know. And
Speaker 1: so now you start talking about past lives and all
Speaker 1: these things, and this this soup of experience. To me,
Speaker 1: that makes the most sense as to why we're seeing
Speaker 1: the things that we're seeing. The child that was born
Speaker 1: into something that is horrific, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: diminish that or try and say that that isn't just
Speaker 1: tragic from one perspective and very very challenging for all
Speaker 1: affected by it. And what if this is an eternal
Speaker 1: being who is choosing. It's like if I'm a fractal
Speaker 1: of the one source consciousness God in a sense, and
Speaker 1: so is everything else, and eternity is all there is
Speaker 1: and love is what it is that it's core, well,
Speaker 1: then it's just like having your favorite dessert for two
Speaker 1: nights in a row. Okay, it's it's good. How about
Speaker 1: weeks in a row, how about two months? How about
Speaker 1: twenty years in a row. You're gonna hate it. It's
Speaker 1: gonna become disgusting. But I always share the story of
Speaker 1: when my brother Uh and his early twenties, he got
Speaker 1: a ticket. He didn't pay for it, he was irresponsible.
Speaker 1: He forgot about it. Years later, he got pulled over
Speaker 1: by a cop and they said, you have a warrant
Speaker 1: for your rest. They took him to jail. Now he's
Speaker 1: the most he's the most sensitive soul I know almost,
Speaker 1: And so this guy in jail, it's just like not
Speaker 1: a match. And I believe it happened for him. And
Speaker 1: he was there four days or something like that, And
Speaker 1: I remember they let him out at twelve oh one
Speaker 1: pm so they could charge one more day for him.
Speaker 1: After midnight, I went and picked him up, brought him
Speaker 1: home and made him some food. And now he's had
Speaker 1: a lot of fancy meals in his life, but at
Speaker 1: that time I cooked him a hot pocket. It was
Speaker 1: two in the morning, after days in jail. If you
Speaker 1: ask him to this day, what is the best meal
Speaker 1: he's ever had. Guess what it is, hot pocket at
Speaker 1: hot pocket, It's that if you start looking at all
Speaker 1: of us as eternal beans, and this is just you know,
Speaker 1: one zoom in of of a much larger narrative, perhaps
Speaker 1: you contemplate that souls want to experience the grit and
Speaker 1: the grime, and and at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know, it's sort of a game that sources playing
Speaker 1: with itself, I believe, And we're all actually untouchable. We
Speaker 1: can't ultimately be heard. I forget who said it. They
Speaker 1: talked about you know, stepping out of this life is
Speaker 1: like for a soul stepping out of a movie theater
Speaker 1: that they've had enough of. So, you know, like the
Speaker 1: book Journey of Souls, I really like I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're familiar by Michael Newton. He did hypnotherapy and
Speaker 1: would guide people through to pass lives and then okay,
Speaker 1: you died in your past life. Now what? And he
Speaker 1: would document the whole very scientific in his approach to
Speaker 1: of how the other side is structured. So you have
Speaker 1: this very broad view of existence. Since the soul and
Speaker 1: eternity that we here, this is everything, this body getting
Speaker 1: hurt or dying is the ultimate thing that you know,
Speaker 1: tragedy from my narrow scope of a vision. So I
Speaker 1: know that's sort of a long winded speel about it,
Speaker 1: but I do believe there are no victims, only volunteers.
Speaker 1: And I also understand how that can be deeply triggering
Speaker 1: for someone who's had something challenging. And it's not I
Speaker 1: don't say that to diminish anyone's experience. I just believe
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when all the puzzle
Speaker 1: pieces go back in the box, there will be an answer.
Speaker 1: There will be a reason, and it will be an
Speaker 1: answer that you co wrote and co orchestrated. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: one of those people that here's that statement and finds
Speaker 1: it triggering. But like you, I feel torn here. And
Speaker 1: this is maybe the relative in the absolute again, right
Speaker 1: on the relative level, I think the world dishes out
Speaker 1: all sorts of horrible things and and we should do
Speaker 1: what we can to respond to that suffering and be
Speaker 1: kind and be compassionate, and you know, not blame victims
Speaker 1: and do all that. And I've had moments where I
Speaker 1: have connected to something far greater, bigger, deeper, more timeless
Speaker 1: and unitive that have also told me or given me
Speaker 1: some leanings towards some of the things that you're saying,
Speaker 1: and I intellectually and and maybe even my heart is
Speaker 1: drawn in that direction. And so this is one of
Speaker 1: these things I kind of bounce back and forth on,
Speaker 1: like what okay, understandably, so what do we do with this?
Speaker 1: Ultimately none of us really know right what happens after
Speaker 1: we die. We are all speculating, right, I mean, even
Speaker 1: people who were saying they did it, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they didn't, but we can't prove they
Speaker 1: did either. And so you know, sometimes I move very
Speaker 1: much into the this is it is all there is,
Speaker 1: and we need to respond in that way. There are
Speaker 1: other times I can be a little bit more a
Speaker 1: bigger perspective. But what I do think is interesting is
Speaker 1: that regardless of whether you want to say you believe
Speaker 1: version A or version B of that story, the principles
Speaker 1: that would cause you to live in a wise way,
Speaker 1: I think are the same with either viewpoint. Right, with
Speaker 1: either viewpoint, we know that a broader perspective is almost
Speaker 1: always helpful. It's almost always helpful to zoom out and say,
Speaker 1: can I see this in a broader context? That love
Speaker 1: is the most important thing. So I think some of
Speaker 1: this to me becomes metaphysical speculation, and it can become
Speaker 1: very helpful to say, all right, and I like what
Speaker 1: you've done in your book because i've I've I've read it,
Speaker 1: and again, some of the metaphysical ideas, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I'm on board with that, But the actual
Speaker 1: idea of how to live in this world and how
Speaker 1: to orient I'm like, I'm totally on board with So
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, maybe it's not that important.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a great point. And you know,
Speaker 1: the way I like to kind of think about this is, Okay,
Speaker 1: my theory is is that I'm one with the creator
Speaker 1: that created, creates and animates all things. Right, I'm a
Speaker 1: fractal of source consciousness, and so are you, and this
Speaker 1: is how we experience ourselves throughout eternity. I play Brandon,
Speaker 1: you play Eric. Maybe next time I play Eric and
Speaker 1: you play Brandon. Who knows? And so that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a good rod for you. Man, I can't wait. So,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, if I'm the creator of my reality,
Speaker 1: abercadabera translates to I create as I speak, Right, like
Speaker 1: I'm spelling. I'm casting spells. My words are my wands.
Speaker 1: If I tell the story, this is how it works.
Speaker 1: And I am creative in my stories that I tell
Speaker 1: literally so powerful that reality matches me in some way,
Speaker 1: shape or form. It's like, Okay, great, this story feels good.
Speaker 1: I al would say one of the greatest test is
Speaker 1: what kind of results does get you? If you take
Speaker 1: this perspective on what kind of results does it does
Speaker 1: it give you? There are people out there who are
Speaker 1: really torn up about the tragedies and horrors of this world.
Speaker 1: I look at them, and I agree with you, Let's
Speaker 1: do everything we can to right any wrongs and ring
Speaker 1: love where there is hate, and on and on it goes.
Speaker 1: And these things that are happening, I find a sense
Speaker 1: of peace that there will be an answer, and that
Speaker 1: it's happening for us, not to us. And so the
Speaker 1: results that the perspective bring me our sense of peace
Speaker 1: and empowerment, and so I think that's important. I had
Speaker 1: a I had an experience um a few months ago
Speaker 1: that this makes me think of that was really powerful,
Speaker 1: where me and my partner was deep in in the
Speaker 1: Covid chrysalists as i'd like to call it, and we're
Speaker 1: going to get some some food. And I live in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Venice Beach area, and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people experiencing homelessness, you know, Venice, there's a lot of that.
Speaker 1: And we're driving down this you know, kind of this area,
Speaker 1: Rose Avenue where there's a lot of restaurants and things,
Speaker 1: and I see this this man walking and he's in
Speaker 1: you know, sort of tattered clothes and things that I
Speaker 1: see a lot, but but his gait was so zombified.
Speaker 1: It was like it just kind of took me back, like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's like it's like a zombie, you know,
Speaker 1: like wow. And then I fell into that moment of
Speaker 1: poor guy, like oh that's awful, you know, me judging
Speaker 1: his experience in this case, you know, feeling sorry for him.
Speaker 1: Someone else, my bomb should get a job, you know,
Speaker 1: all these variations of perspectives. In this case, I was
Speaker 1: feeling sorry for this individual and judging it as wrong
Speaker 1: or it's too bad. It shouldn't be happening from my,
Speaker 1: my narrow perspective. So we drove by him a few
Speaker 1: blocks down. We'd go to get food. They're seeing everyone
Speaker 1: outside at this point in time still, and so we're
Speaker 1: out on the on the sidewalk and ordering our food
Speaker 1: and waiting for our food to come. Ten minutes so
Speaker 1: past I forget completely about this guy, you know, that
Speaker 1: had been walking on way back a few blocks earlier,
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I look over and he's
Speaker 1: standing five feet from me on the sidewalk and he
Speaker 1: just stops deadness tracks and he looks me dead in
Speaker 1: the eyes, the clearest eyes I've ever seen, and here's
Speaker 1: this zombie and and he looks at me, goes, hey,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? And I was like just kind
Speaker 1: of taken aback and I'm like, I'm doing fine. How
Speaker 1: are you? He goes, oh, I'm doing just fine, and
Speaker 1: he winked at me and then kept going. And in
Speaker 1: that moment I got full chills. And my partner pointed
Speaker 1: out he was wearing the same jacket I was wearing,
Speaker 1: and it was like, who am I to judge this
Speaker 1: man's experience that that soul isn't experiencing what it needs.
Speaker 1: And that's the message for me. It felt very like
Speaker 1: you hear about angel encounters and things, and you know,
Speaker 1: I had another guy on my on my show a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. His whole thing, as he said,
Speaker 1: he could see people's higher selves, and so he would
Speaker 1: walk around the streets of San Francisco and send love
Speaker 1: to people experiencing homelessness, and all of a sudden, this
Speaker 1: man's higher self appeared to him and said, do I
Speaker 1: look like I need that from you or want that
Speaker 1: from you? And it was shocking to him and really
Speaker 1: jarred his perspective. It's kind of like, who's karma are
Speaker 1: you getting in the way of trying to fix or
Speaker 1: think that there's something off here? And that was a
Speaker 1: very powerful experience. It's for me that I think I
Speaker 1: felt like there was some divine intervention in his demeanor.
Speaker 1: You said we create our reality, and I think my
Speaker 1: modification to that you and I are slightly different, would be,
Speaker 1: I think we co create our reality, right, Like, I
Speaker 1: like that better. Actually, I would say that's your correctness
Speaker 1: saying that Sometimes when I hear this line of thinking
Speaker 1: that like everything is for the best, the accusation that
Speaker 1: is often made that and that I sometimes go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see that is that it is people with
Speaker 1: privilege who do that, And I think there is truth
Speaker 1: to that. And we have seen how a focus on
Speaker 1: a spear ritual life and a deeper connection. It's emerged
Speaker 1: from people in great poverty as well, and you know,
Speaker 1: all kinds of different places, you know. I think Victor Frankel,
Speaker 1: I mean, he shows up in about every book I
Speaker 1: read anymore, Victor Frankel and neuroplasticity. Like I'm like, like bingo.
Speaker 1: If I was gonna play uh psychological spiritual self help bingo,
Speaker 1: Victor Frankel neuroplasticity would would be near the top of
Speaker 1: the list. But I think what's so inspiring about Victor
Speaker 1: Frankel is he's taking these ideas and he's saying, look,
Speaker 1: I took these ideas to the worst possible place I
Speaker 1: could be in. And it's not that it made the
Speaker 1: situation un horrible or un awful, but it gave him
Speaker 1: tools and ways of coping that are really powerful. And
Speaker 1: I think that's why that story of him resonates so
Speaker 1: powerfully with all of us, because it goes you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's easier for me to say I'm a co creator
Speaker 1: of my reality, that I make the meaning of my life.
Speaker 1: It's easier for me to say that when my life
Speaker 1: is going pretty well. I mean, like, yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to get a whole lot worse
Speaker 1: than the life he was living. And yet he was
Speaker 1: still able to say, I create my meaning. And that's
Speaker 1: why that is so powerful. And that's why I think again,
Speaker 1: whether we want to like it or not, we are
Speaker 1: a co creator of our reality. We are making meaning
Speaker 1: out of everything that occurs. You know, we can't not
Speaker 1: do it. I don't. I mean, I think it's a
Speaker 1: part of the brain that just doesn't really turn off.
Speaker 1: But recognizing that that's the process that's happening and then going, okay,
Speaker 1: is there a different way to think about it? Can
Speaker 1: I open my perspective a little bit wider? Can I
Speaker 1: at least recognize this is through a lens? I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so much power in that, so much and I
Speaker 1: think there's deep truth in the idea that it's really
Speaker 1: the only thing we do have choice over from one perspective,
Speaker 1: is is the perspective that we bring and speaking of
Speaker 1: privilege and all those things, absolutely right, and it empowers
Speaker 1: you to start to see, you know, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: my basic needs are met. I can focus on philosophy
Speaker 1: or something else, and you know, I'm not in this
Speaker 1: horrific situation. And that's absolutely true. And I would say,
Speaker 1: those who are experiencing more privilege, how do we help
Speaker 1: others to expand their perspective as much as possible and
Speaker 1: not to diminish what it is that someone else's experiencing.
Speaker 1: That's a very tricky business. We've got to be really
Speaker 1: careful with that. And it's it's like Dr Wayne Dyer said,
Speaker 1: though I can't be sick enough to help sick people,
Speaker 1: I can't be poor enough to help poor people. And
Speaker 1: so you start to think, Okay, why is this person
Speaker 1: having a particularly challenging experience? And we've all seen it,
Speaker 1: the ones who's really really challenged, like Victor Frankel who
Speaker 1: come out stronger and better here and our huge inspiration.
Speaker 1: And then you have those who have something challenging it
Speaker 1: turns them into a murderer or you know someone who
Speaker 1: just we've seen both stories, right, And you know, I
Speaker 1: love the quote smooth seas never made for a skilled sailor,
Speaker 1: and we came to be skilled sailors. So you see
Speaker 1: someone who has experienced a lot of hardship and it's like, wow,
Speaker 1: perhaps your soul is a badass, and you really are
Speaker 1: in this lifetime, you wanted to really overcome incredible obstacles
Speaker 1: and odds, and as a result, I do believe the
Speaker 1: greater one toils for their freedom, the greater the sense
Speaker 1: of freedom that's attained as a result. And so you
Speaker 1: start to kind of take that all into the equation
Speaker 1: and it's sort of like, Okay, yeah, we're gonna run
Speaker 1: the race two, but you know, I'm going to give
Speaker 1: you a big lead. Uh. You know remember that in school,
Speaker 1: where like certain instances where one person would get to
Speaker 1: be way up, you know, based off whatever judgments of oh,
Speaker 1: this person is too fast, this person is slower about
Speaker 1: my head start all of that. I think all of
Speaker 1: that is playing out here based off of algorithms or
Speaker 1: perspectives that are beyond our comprehension. And to me, it's
Speaker 1: just trusting that that is happening. Like I said, it
Speaker 1: brings me a deep sence of peace and empowerment, and
Speaker 1: that is an indicator that for me, I'm on the
Speaker 1: right track with something. And I've seen it bring a
Speaker 1: lot of peace and empowerment to others. And I've seen
Speaker 1: these perspectives, you know, adopted by others who went you know,
Speaker 1: from thirty years clinically depressed, nothing could help them suicidal
Speaker 1: to complete turnaround, and it's like, what kind of results
Speaker 1: to adopting the perspectives get you? That that speaks loudest.
Speaker 1: Let's pivot just a little bit and talk about intention.
Speaker 1: Your fourth key is align your intentions. The first principle
Speaker 1: in my spiritual Habits program is related to intention. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about it a little bit. You know, first, for you,
Speaker 1: what does that word mean? Why is intention important? And
Speaker 1: what is it? So I referenced in the book The
Speaker 1: Covid Chrysalists, we're going through a great shift and change
Speaker 1: on our planet where something old is dying and something
Speaker 1: new has been born, and it definitely isn't pretty for
Speaker 1: the butterfly halfway through that process, and if we equate
Speaker 1: our own existence, you know, I mean the journey of
Speaker 1: the butterfly itself. I mean it starts out consuming everything,
Speaker 1: and that the caterpillar consuming everything in its path. And
Speaker 1: I was telling my mother this story, and she's like,
Speaker 1: you're so right. My geraniums I've had for years are
Speaker 1: being completely devoured by this caterpillar. And then at some
Speaker 1: point an imagine l cell pops up in the caterpillar,
Speaker 1: and it is viewed as an invader by the caterpillar
Speaker 1: cells and stamped out, and then another one pops up,
Speaker 1: and then more pop up, and over time enough imagine
Speaker 1: l cells are able to pop up without getting stamped
Speaker 1: out by the caterpillar cells. They start working together and
Speaker 1: that's when the shift comes within the caterpillar, and then
Speaker 1: it goes into the chrysalists and the caterpillar cells melt
Speaker 1: into a goo that actually fuel the amount jannel cells
Speaker 1: so that the butterfly can be born. So isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1: All the pain and suffering that the caterpillar precipitated and
Speaker 1: destruction become the fuel for this beautiful creature that helps
Speaker 1: to pollinate and create more growth to exist. It was
Speaker 1: a necessary part of it. So when you equate that
Speaker 1: to us, I believe we are entering a new time
Speaker 1: on the planet and there's a lot of upheaval as
Speaker 1: we transition into the collective butterfly and and as we
Speaker 1: get into the butterflies world. I believe, more than ever,
Speaker 1: intention is important. You know, in the past, if it was,
Speaker 1: if the season was, uh, we're supposed to experience more
Speaker 1: separation from source, and you know, the masculine energy is
Speaker 1: dominant during the cycle of our evolution, and therefore someone
Speaker 1: can come and be a warmonger and destroy and take
Speaker 1: all the resources from others. And that's a time when
Speaker 1: in this story the narrative that it made sense and
Speaker 1: therefore that intention worked to be you know, mim me
Speaker 1: instead of we we we because we were in a
Speaker 1: in a time where that was the predominant energy. And
Speaker 1: I believe we're coming into a time now where, more
Speaker 1: than ever, our intention is so important because everything is
Speaker 1: energy in the butterfly's world more than ever. If you
Speaker 1: want to know the outcome of what you're going to get,
Speaker 1: you can look at what foundation is it built upon,
Speaker 1: and what is the underlying intention, What is the the reason,
Speaker 1: what is your why that you're doing what you're doing,
Speaker 1: And it's a shortcut to knowing in the butterflies world,
Speaker 1: I believe as to what your ultimate outcome will be.
Speaker 1: And my dearly departed grandmother, my brother hinks he had
Speaker 1: a visitation with her a few years after her death.
Speaker 1: This is many years ago. And at the time we
Speaker 1: were in a band and we were, you know, dreams
Speaker 1: of making it in the band, and you know this
Speaker 1: whole thing. So my brother all of a sudden has
Speaker 1: this experience where he feels like it's a visitation for
Speaker 1: my dearly departed grandmother, and he uses his airtime with
Speaker 1: her to ask her for an oracle reading. He says, move.
Speaker 1: We called her move. Well, you know what's going to
Speaker 1: happen with the band? What's gonna happen with my band Kundalini?
Speaker 1: And she said, Brian, you're going to get out of
Speaker 1: it exactly what you put into it. You know that
Speaker 1: wisdom from beyond the veil. Perhaps he just holds true.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, if you want the shortcut to knowing,
Speaker 1: what is the intention? And Gandhi said, if you want
Speaker 1: to find yourself, lose yourself in the service of others.
Speaker 1: And I believe that holds true because there are no others.
Speaker 1: So we have the opportunity to give away what we
Speaker 1: want for ourselves in some way, shape or form. And
Speaker 1: that's where our deepest fulfillment is going to come from.
Speaker 1: Because of the ultimate nature of reality, that always doing
Speaker 1: it to self and therefore must feel the energetic repercussions
Speaker 1: of whatever I'm putting out. And so in the book
Speaker 1: of Course I get into and then there's you know,
Speaker 1: these relative truth there's the ultimate intention of source that
Speaker 1: we're swept up in this co creation or our higher self.
Speaker 1: So I'd love to hear you speak to this as
Speaker 1: well well. I think the part that where you said
Speaker 1: you know our intention is our why you know it
Speaker 1: is I think the heart of it for me, like
Speaker 1: why are we doing the things that we are doing?
Speaker 1: What really matters to us? And I just think that
Speaker 1: that is a thing that, given the pace of our
Speaker 1: society and given the nature of life, that a lot
Speaker 1: of us don't think about very often. I say to
Speaker 1: coaching clients sometimes like if you want success in life,
Speaker 1: I think there's sort of two things you gotta figure out.
Speaker 1: You gotta figure out what really matters do you, and
Speaker 1: then you've got to figure out how to live that way.
Speaker 1: I see a lot of people who can do one
Speaker 1: or the other. They can act like they're acting like
Speaker 1: they're just the effort level is they're like they're they're
Speaker 1: working hard, whether it's on their family or their job,
Speaker 1: or they're you know, they're working hard. They've got that part.
Speaker 1: And then there's other people, you know, more the dreamers, right,
Speaker 1: they've got all the intention but they have no idea
Speaker 1: what to do with it. They know what they really
Speaker 1: want or what matters. And so I think if you
Speaker 1: can combine those two things, which is, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: what really matters to me, Now I'm going to live
Speaker 1: that way. It's a lot better and sometimes with intention.
Speaker 1: For me. The thing I've been working with people on
Speaker 1: and I work with in my own life all the
Speaker 1: time is reconnecting the actions that i'm taking back to
Speaker 1: why I started taking them, because we get lost. This
Speaker 1: happened to me I was a parent, and I would
Speaker 1: find myself in the I have to do these things
Speaker 1: for my kid. I have to do these things for
Speaker 1: my kid, right and now it's an obligation and it's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's this whole thing. When I stopped
Speaker 1: and I go like, well, I don't have to take
Speaker 1: into soccer practice, Like why am I taking him to
Speaker 1: soccer practice? Oh? Because I love him and because I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, team sports might give him X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z and boy when he smiles when he's
Speaker 1: running down the field with that ball, it warms my
Speaker 1: heart Like, Okay, now I've reconnected something I'm doing that's
Speaker 1: sort of shifted into obligation. I've reconnected it to what
Speaker 1: really matters to me, and even without changing any behavior,
Speaker 1: which sometimes we have to do, I've sort of realigned
Speaker 1: my insides back towards what really matters. Yeah, it makes
Speaker 1: so much sense. I've put a quote from Carlos Castaneda
Speaker 1: and in my book about this, because I know we've
Speaker 1: talked about co creation. It's like, from one perspective, I'm Brandon.
Speaker 1: From another perspective, I'm part of a I like to say,
Speaker 1: kind of like Russian nested dolls. And so what's your
Speaker 1: phrase about a fractal? I like that one. We are
Speaker 1: all fractals of the one source consciousness that creates and
Speaker 1: animates all things. That is a line I can get behind.
Speaker 1: It's really empowering. And you know, Carlos Castaneda speaks to
Speaker 1: this raider game being played with you know, this nested intentions,
Speaker 1: and he said um in one of his books. In
Speaker 1: the universe, there is an unmeasurable and indescribable force which
Speaker 1: those who live of the source call intention. Absolutely everything
Speaker 1: that exists in the entire cosmos is attached to intent
Speaker 1: by a connecting link. Sorcerer are not only concerned with
Speaker 1: understanding and explaining that connecting link, but they are especially
Speaker 1: concerned with cleansing it of the numbing effects brought about
Speaker 1: by all of the concerns of living at ordinary levels
Speaker 1: of consciousness. I would say a sourcer a source or
Speaker 1: someone aligned with Source, and that greater intention of how
Speaker 1: do I empower others and bring everyone up and help
Speaker 1: everyone move into a state of peace and equanimity is
Speaker 1: as much as is possible and meant in this flight.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on I'm down, I'm going to
Speaker 1: set intentions, and I wake up in the morning and
Speaker 1: I think about my intention and either one of two
Speaker 1: things happens. One is it just feels really flat. I
Speaker 1: just can't generate any emotional psychic energy around it. Or
Speaker 1: the only thing that I feel like I want is
Speaker 1: something that you know is quote unquote selfish. Right, it
Speaker 1: feels very much like it's you know, yeah, I want
Speaker 1: my intention to be oriented towards love and beauty and kindness.
Speaker 1: But my intention today is like I want my boss
Speaker 1: to get run over by a train. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it's even that bad. You can get my gist,
Speaker 1: which is like my brain doesn't seem to want to
Speaker 1: go there. You know, what do I do with this?
Speaker 1: I think that's a really great question, and I've certainly
Speaker 1: been there many times. And what I do at this
Speaker 1: point is trying to force anything is just It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, what we resist persists. If I'm resisting my
Speaker 1: state that I'm currently in, all I'm doing is giving
Speaker 1: it more energy and power. It's like what we accept,
Speaker 1: I believe we can move through. And when you start
Speaker 1: to view yourself as a wave and emotion is an
Speaker 1: energy and motion. Okay, this isn't the place that I
Speaker 1: would like to be right now energetically, and thankfully, I
Speaker 1: know this too shall pass, and this is a part
Speaker 1: of my process of I'm in the process of getting
Speaker 1: back to the state that I want to get in.
Speaker 1: I'm running the mile and I'm a quarter of the
Speaker 1: way in, but I know it's inevitable that I hit
Speaker 1: and it may be painful in the meantime, but knowing
Speaker 1: that it has a shelf life brings me some sort
Speaker 1: of peace and the less resistance that I offer. And
Speaker 1: you know Abraham Hicks Esther Hicks, so you're probably familiar with,
Speaker 1: speaks to this is like, look, you're not gonna go
Speaker 1: from feeling really down to really up in five seconds
Speaker 1: by thinking of positive thought, you know, forcing some positive bs.
Speaker 1: But what you can start to do usually is be aware,
Speaker 1: be the observer of the state that you're in, accept
Speaker 1: and love yourself there and say, okay, this is this
Speaker 1: is okay, I'm going to accept myself. This is a
Speaker 1: part of being human. I'm gonna be with this, And
Speaker 1: maybe I can reach for a more neutral thought. Maybe
Speaker 1: I can reframe what I just thought. You know, it's
Speaker 1: the end of the world. Things are awful. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: not the end of the world. Maybe I'm being a
Speaker 1: little overly dramatic. Maybe it's just a little inconvenient. As
Speaker 1: you slowly start to consciously navigate yourself out of this,
Speaker 1: it's gonna start by going more neutral. Once you get neutral,
Speaker 1: as she talks about, now you're no longer going upstream
Speaker 1: against flow of source, and now you as long as
Speaker 1: you're not swimming upstream, you're good because you get swept
Speaker 1: up in the stream of goodness ultimately and peace. And
Speaker 1: so I really like that. It's like I don't even
Speaker 1: necessarily have to be so good at being you know,
Speaker 1: incredibly positive and optimistic. I just need to not get
Speaker 1: too caught in those potholes, you know. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get caught in them sometimes, and that's okay too,
Speaker 1: And when I do, I'm gonna do my best to
Speaker 1: bring awareness to it and then start reaching for neutral thoughts.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times I think it's as
Speaker 1: simple as Tony Robbins talks about changing your state changes
Speaker 1: your experience. So how about get up and go walk
Speaker 1: in the sunshine for a few minutes. Stretch your arms
Speaker 1: over your head for three minutes. You know, our brains
Speaker 1: are parmesses. It literally releases all these different chemicals that
Speaker 1: change your state. And so a lot of times we
Speaker 1: get so austin a mental chatter and it's like you
Speaker 1: move some and it's incredible how much that can have
Speaker 1: an effect. I like everything you said there, which speaks
Speaker 1: to sometimes there's an incremental approach to things. And probably
Speaker 1: the most common phrase that I use on the show
Speaker 1: is sometimes you can't think your way into right action.
Speaker 1: You have to act your way into right thinking. And
Speaker 1: this is exactly what you're saying. You know. It's corollary
Speaker 1: is for me is you know, depression is something that
Speaker 1: I've kind of gone around with a few times, and
Speaker 1: depression hates a moving target. When it's there for me,
Speaker 1: I'm just like move, it doesn't even matter, like clean
Speaker 1: the house, go outside, go to the mall. I'm not
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not going to the mall, right, although
Speaker 1: I must be getting old, because this is what I've
Speaker 1: thought a bunch of times this winter. If we weren't
Speaker 1: in the middle of a pandemic, I might ask my
Speaker 1: friend if he wanted to go walk around the mall,
Speaker 1: because I want, I want to move, I want to walk,
Speaker 1: but I don't. Man, She's yeah, I'm sorry everyone, but
Speaker 1: I agree that. You know, there's these little actions that
Speaker 1: we can take that move us a little ways forward.
Speaker 1: And I agree to you. It's difficult to go from
Speaker 1: like I'm all the way down to all the way up.
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes the nature of the self help movement,
Speaker 1: even the spiritual movement, in a lot of cases, seems
Speaker 1: to indicate that these practices are so transformative. And they are,
Speaker 1: but they're typically transformative over a long period of time.
Speaker 1: There are exceptions to that. There are exceptions to that.
Speaker 1: But what I think happens a lot is someone goes
Speaker 1: all right, I don't feel very good. Things aren't well.
Speaker 1: I've heard that if I do ten minutes of box breathing,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel awesome. So they sit down and they
Speaker 1: do a useful practice like ten minutes of box breathing,
Speaker 1: and they don't feel awesome. They might actually feel a
Speaker 1: little bit better, but they're not triangulated in for that subtlety.
Speaker 1: They're looking for way better and they don't get it,
Speaker 1: and then they go, I guess that's not for me.
Speaker 1: So then you know, next time they feel bad, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I've heard maybe vipastina meditation is good, so let me
Speaker 1: sit down and do a couple of minutes. You know.
Speaker 1: I do. I do ten minutes of a pasta for
Speaker 1: the next week, and I don't feel great. But again,
Speaker 1: I might feel a little bit better, but I'm not
Speaker 1: tuned to that subtlety, so I go, that's not it.
Speaker 1: And and the same thing with thinking positive thoughts. We
Speaker 1: are in such a spiritual, psychological self help marketplace, and
Speaker 1: I'm part of it, right. I mean, I am putting
Speaker 1: the goods out right, so I'm implicated in what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that I think a lot of times we just
Speaker 1: jump jump jump jump jump jump jump jump jump. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so you know, that's why we developed the Spiritual
Speaker 1: Habits program, is to say, look, let's take some core principles,
Speaker 1: let's take some behavior change principles, let's combine them, and
Speaker 1: let's start living more deeply. And so I'd love to
Speaker 1: ask you my favorite question right now, or I would
Speaker 1: say the question that's most on my heart that I'm
Speaker 1: trying to solve, which is, how do we get the
Speaker 1: average person? And by average person, let's just say the
Speaker 1: person who's got a forty hour a week job, maybe
Speaker 1: they've got kids. They're busy people, right, They're not going
Speaker 1: to drop out there, not going to the monastery, but
Speaker 1: they want to live a more connected life. I find
Speaker 1: the biggest problem is that even if we can get
Speaker 1: to a point where we're like, I'm meditating every morning
Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes, great good work, a lot of people
Speaker 1: can't even get there. That's very positive, But the rest
Speaker 1: of the day it's all gone. How do we integrate
Speaker 1: this into more of the moments of our lives when
Speaker 1: we get busy and we forget what a great question.
Speaker 1: You know, for me, I happen to be surrounded by
Speaker 1: a lot of people and the transformational festival scene kind
Speaker 1: of a lot of people who are not working the
Speaker 1: nine to five who are you know, music producers and
Speaker 1: festival producers and working on self help programs with people
Speaker 1: and lots of medicine journeys. And I have a lot
Speaker 1: of that in my in my world. And as someone
Speaker 1: who's serial entrepreneur and you know, had hundreds of employees
Speaker 1: and you've been a doer my whole life, I found
Speaker 1: myself annoyed with the community a lot. I live in
Speaker 1: a co living space, so I've had a lot of
Speaker 1: that community around me in the last two years especially,
Speaker 1: and I found myself annoyed a lot with some of
Speaker 1: these perspectives, like, yeah, you know what, I don't need
Speaker 1: your help. I have all these things on my plate.
Speaker 1: I don't need distance reiki from Afar. I don't need
Speaker 1: to hire you to send good energy to you know,
Speaker 1: how about help clean the bathroom, you know, or the
Speaker 1: rubber meter? Right, how about like, you know, thanks, I'm
Speaker 1: all good on distance reiki from you know, paying you
Speaker 1: to meditate in the corner or something. Um. But but
Speaker 1: one of the things that it's really interesting about this community,
Speaker 1: and one of the things that I love. Is the
Speaker 1: only thing I'm really good at, and a lot of
Speaker 1: these people are good at is telling good stories about
Speaker 1: themselves and the universe and the nature of reality um
Speaker 1: one with the source consciousness that creates and animates all things.
Speaker 1: I'm a fractal of that source consciousness, right, And as
Speaker 1: a result, it's all possible. Possibilities are endless. I'm a
Speaker 1: master of time and space, you know. I think it's
Speaker 1: O show said everyone should meditate at least twenty minutes
Speaker 1: a day unless you're two big zy, you should meditate
Speaker 1: for an hour, right, And it's like so you Actually,
Speaker 1: I find as I start playing with some of these
Speaker 1: concepts that it's all so malleable, you know, it's so malleable.
Speaker 1: And the X business partner went from suicidal and taking
Speaker 1: a sixty thou dollar a year job three years ago
Speaker 1: to having over thirty million dollars in the bank and
Speaker 1: on his way to being a billionaire because he is
Speaker 1: so expanded in his view of what is possible. I
Speaker 1: believe when you come holding your bag of sugar to
Speaker 1: be filled, it will be examined to see how large
Speaker 1: it is. What story are you telling about the nature
Speaker 1: of the situation in which you find yourself. So if
Speaker 1: you find yourself in a story of forty hours, here's
Speaker 1: where the limits are. Here's abrecadabra. It's true. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to take that away. And if you can start
Speaker 1: playing with some of the ideas that you know you're
Speaker 1: the lead actor and actress and director and your own
Speaker 1: private yo U universe, you play with that idea and
Speaker 1: you surround yourself with enough people playing with that idea,
Speaker 1: or you know, maybe you're not at a hippie commune
Speaker 1: like me where everyone's thinking and talking like you're. But
Speaker 1: there's plenty of books. Go go read Neville Goddard from
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty where he's telling stories that are incredible of people,
Speaker 1: you know, walking every day and tuning into the vibration
Speaker 1: of owning this most expensive building in New York one
Speaker 1: day and then it happens in dramatic fashion. I mean,
Speaker 1: some of the stories that are real, that have happened
Speaker 1: to people as far as manifestation and co creation and
Speaker 1: bending space time in order to create new opportunity for themselves,
Speaker 1: they're incredible. So if I'm taking those stories in all
Speaker 1: the time and surrounding myself with this suspending disbelief enough.
Speaker 1: There's a great Netflix documentary called Miracles by this guy
Speaker 1: Darren Brown who's an incredible like hypnotist illusionist, and he's
Speaker 1: making fun of faith dealers in it, like mocking it,
Speaker 1: but then doing it. And I believe it's happening because
Speaker 1: he suspends disbelief enough to create that potential in that
Speaker 1: person who can now read the newspaper who needed glasses
Speaker 1: thirty seconds ago, or you know, but Shard talks about uh,
Speaker 1: he calls it permission slips. Whatever, permission slip, you need
Speaker 1: to suspend disbelief enough to create the miracles. And I
Speaker 1: believe that's what was happened. There's a narrative around Jesus
Speaker 1: perhaps that then, oh, he creates miracles and he does
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I heard it. I saw it. Oh. And
Speaker 1: now of the person hearing that, it's like, ah, he
Speaker 1: does cream. Oh, now I'm in his face. And now
Speaker 1: I've created the container in the permission slip for it
Speaker 1: too to be possible. And so start creating a container
Speaker 1: that makes some of these things possible. And there's plenty
Speaker 1: of good reading and stories out there that will leave
Speaker 1: you in all and wonder and take that along with
Speaker 1: the story that the place that you find yourself is
Speaker 1: the I believe, the perfect jumping off point to become more.
Speaker 1: There's a guy I had on my podcast named Derek
Speaker 1: right All. You may be familiar with him and be
Speaker 1: great on your show. He's Easy's podcaster, author and a
Speaker 1: guy was you know, waiting tables. If you go back
Speaker 1: and search the Positive Head archives, I've had him on
Speaker 1: a few times, one of my favorite guests. It just
Speaker 1: incredible ideas, and his story was he was an actor
Speaker 1: who hit hard times. He went from having gigs to
Speaker 1: waiting tables and serving his former colleagues, and it was
Speaker 1: he was embarrassed and depressed, and then he had the realization,
Speaker 1: like it, I'm gonna be the best waiter there's ever been,
Speaker 1: and he's just started just putting a hundred and eleven
Speaker 1: percent of his heart, mind, soul into it. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, he started getting in trouble at work because
Speaker 1: he was showing everyone else up. They finally turned on
Speaker 1: him and asked him to leave. He went from finding
Speaker 1: himself at this job that two months later on a
Speaker 1: private jet going to teach a course on how to
Speaker 1: do this sort of thing and now he's wildly successful,
Speaker 1: and so he literally elevated himself out and created conditions
Speaker 1: vibrationally where he was no longer a match for that
Speaker 1: level of job because he is vibrating it. It's such
Speaker 1: a higher degree different our different degree that which is
Speaker 1: into itself is drawn water seeks its own level. So
Speaker 1: the way or out of your current situation is radical
Speaker 1: appreciation for where you are and finding the beauty in
Speaker 1: it and pouring yourself into it fully and finding that
Speaker 1: that moment and that humdrum job is as divine as
Speaker 1: any other thing that ever has been, could be, or
Speaker 1: will be. And if you're able to pull that off
Speaker 1: like Derek did, then as he also talks about, not
Speaker 1: the law of attraction, he talks about the law of emergence,
Speaker 1: It's all already in there. Within the acorn is an
Speaker 1: oak tree. If the little boy takes and puts it
Speaker 1: on a shelf, it's not going to become an oak tree.
Speaker 1: If it's in the right water, the right sun, the
Speaker 1: right conditions are created, what is in potential within the
Speaker 1: acorn must emerge, and inside of each of us is
Speaker 1: that oak tree waiting for the right conditions to emerge
Speaker 1: and then you'll find yourself miraculously, Like many many stories,
Speaker 1: how in the world. I go to Starbucks and I
Speaker 1: hit it off with this person I happen to talk to,
Speaker 1: who's a billionaire who invited me to come to his
Speaker 1: new company, and all of a sudden, I'm in this
Speaker 1: whirlwind of a new life experience. That sort of thing
Speaker 1: happens all the time, and it is possible for each
Speaker 1: and every one of us. And the way out is
Speaker 1: fully into where you are, because where you are is
Speaker 1: the perfect jumping off point to lead you to where
Speaker 1: you can in potential emerge two Next, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that idea of the way out is through is so true.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting, you know. Hearing you talk and then
Speaker 1: reflecting on my world views, I would say, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit more practical, And I do not mean
Speaker 1: that in a positive way necessarily, right, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: better or worse different by any stretch of the imagination. Right.
Speaker 1: You know, I look at someone like Derek Rydell and
Speaker 1: I go, Okay, well, yeah it does happen, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen to everyone. But back to the point we
Speaker 1: made earlier, I actually don't think that where it goes
Speaker 1: is a important is the way it goes. And what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is what Derek did. Any of
Speaker 1: us can do. The results may not be in two
Speaker 1: months we are a billionaire on a plane. That is
Speaker 1: wildly improbable, not impossible, but improbable. But most likely, at
Speaker 1: the very least, we will have more meaning, more connection,
Speaker 1: and more fulfillment in what we do, which is the
Speaker 1: ultimate wealth. That's right. You take the same action, you
Speaker 1: take the same approach, you know, and it is that
Speaker 1: going deeper and that appreciation for what I have and
Speaker 1: where I am and whatever that is is really difficult
Speaker 1: to do. It's really hard, and I think it's really
Speaker 1: valuable because I know there have been times in my
Speaker 1: life where I have had that mindset of deep appreciation
Speaker 1: for where I was, and I was very happy, and
Speaker 1: I was happy with having way less than I have
Speaker 1: now at certain points, right and then there are other
Speaker 1: points where I have been like, I'm not happy with
Speaker 1: what I have. I have more now than I've ever had,
Speaker 1: and I don't mean money wise, I actually have less money.
Speaker 1: You know, I walked away from a pretty lucrative corporate
Speaker 1: job to do this, But I'm doing fine. My point
Speaker 1: being it's a mindset, right, It's an ability to be here,
Speaker 1: to be present. You know, one of your keys is
Speaker 1: B B B Right, How do I inhabit where I'm
Speaker 1: at more fully? Because honestly, that is all there is
Speaker 1: is where I'm at right now is the only place
Speaker 1: that I can have happiness or fulfillment or peace or
Speaker 1: anything is by it's going to happen right now or
Speaker 1: now or now. That's where it's at. And yet that's
Speaker 1: so easy to say and far harder to do. Easily said. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it's a lifetime to become a master of such
Speaker 1: a thing. And you know, I think there's a reason
Speaker 1: books like be Here Now and Power of Now are
Speaker 1: these greatest bestsellers of the last hundred years in the
Speaker 1: self development world, because there is so much power there
Speaker 1: and it's the only place that power resides. I mean,
Speaker 1: show me your past, you can't. You can tell me
Speaker 1: about it, you can show me a picture, any of
Speaker 1: those things, but it's like it's just not it. And
Speaker 1: we all know that our memory is unreliable at best,
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully we know that. Lots of people still don't,
Speaker 1: I think know that, and they're difficult, but yeah, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: if you don't, then uh, yeah, you learn learn exactly
Speaker 1: and we filter tons of things in and out, you know,
Speaker 1: uh is the way our brain works and our our memory.
Speaker 1: I mean, your past isn't here, your future is never
Speaker 1: shown up exactly like you envisioned it. There is no past,
Speaker 1: you know, there is no future truly that exists. You're
Speaker 1: always in a now moment, like you said, and so
Speaker 1: naturally the only place you have any sort of control
Speaker 1: or power is in that now moment, and to get
Speaker 1: really personal with it is is like you can do
Speaker 1: your best to affect the now, to look and feel
Speaker 1: the way you wanted to feel, and great, it's easy
Speaker 1: to pat yourself on the back and feel great about
Speaker 1: it when it shows up the way you envisioned it.
Speaker 1: And where it's more challenging is when it shows up
Speaker 1: in a way that you didn't envision And that's where
Speaker 1: your opportunity to become that you know, skilled sailor comes in,
Speaker 1: right where you get the opportunity to work out that
Speaker 1: muscle to become someone who Okay, I'm going to trust
Speaker 1: this process. I'm gonna be here now, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna know that the answer to what to do next.
Speaker 1: I don't need to know twenty steps ahead. I just
Speaker 1: need to know what what what feels most aligned for me? Now?
Speaker 1: Where can I set my intention that's pure and good
Speaker 1: and just follow that inner guidance? And you realize that
Speaker 1: inner guidance is more powerful than any podcast or book
Speaker 1: or you know. That's your direct except can you feed
Speaker 1: he's he doesn't know what he's talking about? Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that's the only one. That's the only one other than that, Yes,
Speaker 1: trust your after trust your under guidance after that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, the present is the gift. It's called
Speaker 1: the present for a very good reason. And when we
Speaker 1: start looking through that lens telling that story, what results
Speaker 1: does it get us? I found it to get me
Speaker 1: really good results. Yeah. Something came to me. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you would agree with this, but I thought,
Speaker 1: I've loved this conversation, right, I loved it because you
Speaker 1: and I sort of see things differently, and yet we
Speaker 1: arrive at this very commonplace and I love it. And
Speaker 1: I thought, you know a phrase I've often said, and
Speaker 1: I'm wonder if you agree with this phrase, that everything
Speaker 1: turns out for the best. I would say, when you
Speaker 1: can see the whole story is my friend puts it jokingly,
Speaker 1: in the end, we get the girl. You know that's
Speaker 1: not my friend, you know, you know, it may be
Speaker 1: lifetimes for that story to play itself out, but I believe, yes,
Speaker 1: ultimately it's happening for a good growth. Yep. My sort
Speaker 1: of core philosophy is more not everything happens for the best,
Speaker 1: but that we can make the best out of everything
Speaker 1: that happens. And it's all. It might be two different
Speaker 1: sides of the same coin. Speaking about it felt right,
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, But but that I think is, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just at the end of the day, what you
Speaker 1: just said is true. We are brought to moment after
Speaker 1: moment after moment after moment in life, and we are
Speaker 1: called upon to make the wisest response we can, and
Speaker 1: the more we do that, the better our life is.
Speaker 1: And I believe a lot of these challenges are blessings.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of evidence that I speak
Speaker 1: about this in the book to like simulation argument that
Speaker 1: we're in a in a simulation and this is a
Speaker 1: game that are higher self sort of created, and so
Speaker 1: you think of it in terms of a video game,
Speaker 1: and you get to the boss at the end of
Speaker 1: the level. I mean in my case, you know, I
Speaker 1: talked about creating that magical sort of perspective opens up
Speaker 1: a lot, and for me, I'm surrounded with a lot
Speaker 1: of that. So I always ask for stories of synchronicity
Speaker 1: or serendipity on my show because I love hearing them
Speaker 1: and they kind of fuel my child like wonder. And
Speaker 1: it's like the Bible verse about the only one I
Speaker 1: ever quote. Lest she become like a child, you can't
Speaker 1: enter the Kingdom of Heaven. And I believe that's heaven
Speaker 1: is here and now if we choose to have that
Speaker 1: childlike wonder, And so for me, I'll have a lot
Speaker 1: of incredible amount of synchronicity like or or spiritual breadcrumbs.
Speaker 1: One or is around my birthday. It's you know, my
Speaker 1: dad was twenty eight and had me on his birthday
Speaker 1: July and it's his grandmother's birthday. My great grandmother and
Speaker 1: her mother died on that day. My business partner baby
Speaker 1: mama and grandmother soul mate I met on that day.
Speaker 1: Her boyfriend committed suicide on that day before me. His
Speaker 1: name was Anson, and all my relatives are from ants
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. With that birthday and on and on
Speaker 1: it goes. It's like a ten minute story, right. So
Speaker 1: I I look at these things and I say, ah,
Speaker 1: there's there's these reflections that it's you know, me reflecting
Speaker 1: me back to me in some way, and I am
Speaker 1: super empowered to make my life magical. And the more
Speaker 1: I tell that story, the more it continues to reflect
Speaker 1: back to me. It's like just making it up, and
Speaker 1: then it's a self fulfilling prophecy. It all kind of
Speaker 1: leads to the same same result in a way. Right. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: we're all making it up to some degree, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just honestly think we're creating meaning because
Speaker 1: that's what we do. But reality is something that touched
Speaker 1: in its most real form, doesn't have a story attached
Speaker 1: to it. It just has this core energy slash unity
Speaker 1: to it. I'm not articulating that well, which is exactly
Speaker 1: the point, because when you touch sort of ultimate reality,
Speaker 1: there aren't words. It's a wordless experience to a certain degree.
Speaker 1: So I agree, let's pick the stories that give us
Speaker 1: the most power in our own lives, the stories that
Speaker 1: lead us in a direction that feels good and positive
Speaker 1: and helpful. Yeah, the alternative is is rough, and it's
Speaker 1: just it's challenging enough doing that, right. I mean I
Speaker 1: look at people who don't have this sort of optimistic
Speaker 1: outlook on reality that I think I have, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I feel for you because it's challenging, you know, seeing
Speaker 1: through this lens, much less thinking, you know, feeling disconnected
Speaker 1: and it's all for naught and it's all lost and
Speaker 1: you know, no wonder there's so much depression. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a tough view. Well, I think you and I both
Speaker 1: try and keep our shows to about an hour, and
Speaker 1: we're about fifteen minutes past that, so I would say
Speaker 1: we wrap up. Do you have any normal way of
Speaker 1: wrapping up your show? You know, I have a couple
Speaker 1: of Like I always ask a story of synchronicity, serendipity,
Speaker 1: positive paranormal story. If anything comes to mind that you
Speaker 1: feel inspired to share, I'd love to hear it. And
Speaker 1: then I have my cliche closer as well, which is
Speaker 1: a sixty second question. So all right, I'll give you
Speaker 1: my story of this. And I'm suspicious of my memory
Speaker 1: and things that happened a long time ago, but this
Speaker 1: is the way I remember it. I was in sobriety
Speaker 1: the first time, and I left the house and I
Speaker 1: went out and I tried to go to a meeting,
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, the meeting wasn't there. I was
Speaker 1: riding the bus at the time, and I really wanted
Speaker 1: to use that day, and I took the bus back.
Speaker 1: I was staying at my dad's house after I got
Speaker 1: out of treatment, and I was going to go in
Speaker 1: the house and find some money and go get high.
Speaker 1: And I remember the phone ringing and it being the
Speaker 1: pastor at my mom's church, who was a man I loved.
Speaker 1: I mean, I never was that involved in the church.
Speaker 1: I never really believed it, but I always in him,
Speaker 1: just saw this beautiful spirit. And there he was on
Speaker 1: the phone at the time that I most sort of
Speaker 1: needed and was saying a prayer for like God help
Speaker 1: I don't want to use, and got the phone call.
Speaker 1: So again, you know, my skeptical nature is like you know,
Speaker 1: but but from a synchronistic standpoint, it's a you know,
Speaker 1: so perfectly time, perfectly time. Certainly, I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: my you know, how my life would have unfolded, you know,
Speaker 1: had I gotten high that day, I just don't know,
Speaker 1: you know. And that was it could be a different timeline.
Speaker 1: That was a big moment. Yeah, and if we if
Speaker 1: we take the parallel world's theory one version, we did
Speaker 1: go get high that day and you know who knows
Speaker 1: where he is, but probably not anywhere good. So real quick,
Speaker 1: I was sharing the birthday thing and I kind of
Speaker 1: got off track with that. I view it sort of
Speaker 1: like a video game. A lot of these challenges and
Speaker 1: and so here this co living space in Venice that
Speaker 1: I run, I had someone show up. I've had two
Speaker 1: people show up here with my birthday, and one of
Speaker 1: them showed up and it was the most challenging. It
Speaker 1: was like if my shadow showed up with autism, a
Speaker 1: bit of autism and you know, some real serious substance
Speaker 1: abuse issues, very aggressive. I was ready to shut the
Speaker 1: place down over this person who became such a disruption
Speaker 1: to the house and you're talking to people living here
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of events and it was
Speaker 1: just it was very sad. I'd put a lot into
Speaker 1: getting and then I remembered, oh, if I get the
Speaker 1: lesson that I'm supposed to get from it, I don't
Speaker 1: need to figure out how to get him out. Because
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm not I'm not leaving. I'll take
Speaker 1: your room, and you know, like you can't drag me out,
Speaker 1: and it's COVID, you can't and there's no eviction, there's
Speaker 1: no you know. And I remember, if I get the
Speaker 1: message and the lesson, there will be a natural separation
Speaker 1: from what's needed here, right, And so it became clear
Speaker 1: to me that it was not allowing him to trigger
Speaker 1: me into a state of you know, he's very like
Speaker 1: and I can be very you know, and it would
Speaker 1: just like escalate each other. And my partners, like Brandon,
Speaker 1: only deal with him via text, you know. We luckily
Speaker 1: we went away for the holidays. I asked him to leave.
Speaker 1: He's threatening, all these crazy messages, just calm cool, Nope, nope.
Speaker 1: If I get this, he'll naturally leave. And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden something came up, new job offering, you know,
Speaker 1: stayed away. This is my idea to leave. I'm out
Speaker 1: of here, thanks and gone. And the day he left,
Speaker 1: it was like a tornado at the house. So I
Speaker 1: am in southern California. We get very little weather, you know,
Speaker 1: and it was clear as it could be. I was
Speaker 1: about an hour down the road, clear as it could be, sunny,
Speaker 1: and people who are here like it was wild, like
Speaker 1: a tornado hit the place. Not a real tornado, but
Speaker 1: you know, it blew everything off my balcony and people
Speaker 1: are the house felt like I was going to blow down.
Speaker 1: The story I tell, whether it's true or not, is
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of parallel path life energy
Speaker 1: there that I passed this test with this character in
Speaker 1: this moment, and I cleared that energy up, and it's
Speaker 1: like a vacuum coming in, you know, and just energy moving.
Speaker 1: And so I got on that because one of the
Speaker 1: questions that you asked was, you know, how do you
Speaker 1: deal with um these really challenging things and and you
Speaker 1: know what's going on here? And I view it as
Speaker 1: a as a game a video. I mean now, I
Speaker 1: always say in him and I are in good terms now,
Speaker 1: and I view him as the boss. At the end
Speaker 1: of one of my levels of leve alone awesome. What's
Speaker 1: the standard sixty second closer? Sixty second closer in sixty
Speaker 1: seconds or less? What is the meaning of life? According
Speaker 1: to Eric Zimmer, I'm tempted to just be quiet for
Speaker 1: sixty seconds and just let the clock run out, and
Speaker 1: just let no one, let the silence be the thing.
Speaker 1: So there you go. I'm gonna leave it at silence.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it as unanswerable. I like it. No
Speaker 1: one's ever done that. You can see why I ask it.
Speaker 1: It gives you a lot of insight into the person. Really,
Speaker 1: it's like cliche and silly and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's that's a good answer. Awesome, if it's okay. I
Speaker 1: would love to offer my book as a gift to
Speaker 1: your listeners. Sure, yeah, yeah. If you guys want to
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Speaker 1: that is a nice gift. Physical book you'll buy, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you know body or e book. Yep, absolutely pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: We'll put the link to that in the show notes. Well, Brandon,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I've enjoyed this co experiment here.
Speaker 1: Let's co create cool. I think we're a really good match.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like it's like slight variations that are complementary,
Speaker 1: and it's been an honor to to co create with you.
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