1 00:00:07,266 --> 00:00:09,706 Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the 2 00:00:09,786 --> 00:00:26,866 Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, everybody, Greetings from Detroit, Michigan. 3 00:00:27,026 --> 00:00:30,146 Speaker 1: That we are in a hotel room right now in 4 00:00:30,226 --> 00:00:33,626 Speaker 1: downtown Detroit, about five minutes away from the NFL Draft Theater. 5 00:00:33,786 --> 00:00:38,826 Speaker 1: And it is approximately three pm Eastern on Wednesday, which 6 00:00:38,906 --> 00:00:42,146 Speaker 1: is just over twenty four hours away from the NFL 7 00:00:42,266 --> 00:00:46,106 Speaker 1: Draft's first round. And I put this tweet out yesterday 8 00:00:47,466 --> 00:00:48,986 Speaker 1: that I think there's gonna be a lot of trades. 9 00:00:49,066 --> 00:00:52,706 Speaker 1: I doubled down today with a tweet that I said, 10 00:00:52,746 --> 00:00:54,946 Speaker 1: I referenced it on Pat McAfee. I think we might 11 00:00:54,986 --> 00:00:58,186 Speaker 1: get ten trades in the first round. And that's because 12 00:00:58,266 --> 00:01:00,826 Speaker 1: everybody I'm talking with is like, Oh, this team's trading up, 13 00:01:00,826 --> 00:01:02,706 Speaker 1: that team's trading back, this team's looking to trade up, 14 00:01:02,706 --> 00:01:07,026 Speaker 1: this team's trading to trade back. I figured this podcast episode, 15 00:01:07,066 --> 00:01:09,786 Speaker 1: if you're listening, you just want content, content content. I'm 16 00:01:09,786 --> 00:01:12,506 Speaker 1: not on television at the moment, so let's do it 17 00:01:12,546 --> 00:01:15,346 Speaker 1: over podcasts and just empty the notebook. It's going to 18 00:01:15,346 --> 00:01:19,586 Speaker 1: be rather quick compared to the hour long interviews we've 19 00:01:19,586 --> 00:01:22,386 Speaker 1: had with coaches and coordinators in the past, but this 20 00:01:22,506 --> 00:01:26,706 Speaker 1: is our latest thinking as of around three o'clock on Wednesday. 21 00:01:26,706 --> 00:01:28,426 Speaker 1: And if you're listening to this at the gym on 22 00:01:28,506 --> 00:01:30,986 Speaker 1: Wednesday night, and I know that's optimistic assuming people go 23 00:01:30,986 --> 00:01:33,666 Speaker 1: to the gym. I always say the gym, but I 24 00:01:33,706 --> 00:01:37,026 Speaker 1: really mean as you're sitting at home playing video games 25 00:01:37,066 --> 00:01:39,226 Speaker 1: with this on, or driving in a car in traffic. 26 00:01:40,186 --> 00:01:42,546 Speaker 1: Here's some things to note, and I'll go through it 27 00:01:42,666 --> 00:01:46,506 Speaker 1: team by team, and then I think maybe big picture stuff. 28 00:01:46,546 --> 00:01:49,466 Speaker 1: The first point I would make is that I do 29 00:01:49,626 --> 00:01:52,266 Speaker 1: believe there is going to be close to a dozen 30 00:01:52,426 --> 00:01:56,026 Speaker 1: trades made in the first round that would be record breaking. 31 00:01:56,386 --> 00:01:58,506 Speaker 1: I think that this is one of those years where 32 00:01:59,066 --> 00:02:03,826 Speaker 1: there are some quarterbacks that teams might want to trade 33 00:02:03,866 --> 00:02:05,666 Speaker 1: up and down for, but it's not even about the quarterbacks. 34 00:02:05,706 --> 00:02:08,386 Speaker 1: It's about the wide receivers, the tackles, and then the 35 00:02:08,426 --> 00:02:12,426 Speaker 1: few defensive players. So I actually think it might go 36 00:02:12,746 --> 00:02:16,826 Speaker 1: somewhat chalk one, two, three, four, And we'll get into 37 00:02:16,826 --> 00:02:20,706 Speaker 1: my mock draft in part two on this, but as 38 00:02:20,746 --> 00:02:22,786 Speaker 1: I have it right now, I've got Caleb going one 39 00:02:22,826 --> 00:02:26,186 Speaker 1: to the Bears the Commanders. I'll open the door. It 40 00:02:26,266 --> 00:02:28,506 Speaker 1: did get Harry for a while there over the weekend, 41 00:02:28,506 --> 00:02:31,266 Speaker 1: I heard all sorts of stuff that he might not 42 00:02:31,306 --> 00:02:34,146 Speaker 1: want to go there, and you know, and then it's 43 00:02:34,226 --> 00:02:36,866 Speaker 1: if you're Washington, and if he even had the inclination 44 00:02:36,906 --> 00:02:39,666 Speaker 1: of I might not want to go there three days ago, 45 00:02:39,746 --> 00:02:42,706 Speaker 1: Like do you say we'll screw you, like this isn't free, 46 00:02:42,986 --> 00:02:45,426 Speaker 1: We'll take Drake Mayo, We'll be fine, or do you 47 00:02:45,506 --> 00:02:47,226 Speaker 1: just say, okay, once we get him in the building, 48 00:02:47,626 --> 00:02:50,466 Speaker 1: it'll be all good, because there is no doubt. And 49 00:02:50,506 --> 00:02:52,426 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is real, that Jaden Daniels and 50 00:02:52,426 --> 00:02:56,346 Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce have a great relationship and that whole you know, 51 00:02:56,586 --> 00:02:58,466 Speaker 1: connection to the Raiders is real. But the Raiders don't 52 00:02:58,466 --> 00:03:01,146 Speaker 1: have them or the ability to go up from thirteen 53 00:03:01,226 --> 00:03:05,786 Speaker 1: to two. So earlier this week, Jayden Daniels publicist, and 54 00:03:05,826 --> 00:03:08,786 Speaker 1: I think that stuff Denise White came out and she's 55 00:03:08,786 --> 00:03:11,666 Speaker 1: been an NFL publicist for many stars. She's dealt in 56 00:03:11,706 --> 00:03:14,266 Speaker 1: crisis communication. Like I've heard her name and I don't 57 00:03:14,306 --> 00:03:15,986 Speaker 1: know her personally, but I've seen her stuff for years. 58 00:03:15,986 --> 00:03:18,666 Speaker 1: And she wrote on Twitter, Jaden Daniels is excited to 59 00:03:18,666 --> 00:03:20,826 Speaker 1: be part of the NFL and whatever he is, wherever 60 00:03:20,866 --> 00:03:22,706 Speaker 1: he is drafted, he will be happy to be part 61 00:03:22,746 --> 00:03:24,906 Speaker 1: of that organization. So I'm done, like that's it. But 62 00:03:24,946 --> 00:03:28,866 Speaker 1: then if you're Washington, you're like, dude, like, we're about 63 00:03:28,906 --> 00:03:30,746 Speaker 1: to put all of our faith in you. New coach, 64 00:03:31,386 --> 00:03:36,906 Speaker 1: new owner, new GM, new offensive coordinator, new team president, 65 00:03:37,146 --> 00:03:40,746 Speaker 1: new Bob Myers is involved. And then we just got 66 00:03:40,826 --> 00:03:42,746 Speaker 1: you know, these other guys involved. We have a whole 67 00:03:42,746 --> 00:03:45,346 Speaker 1: new front offense, Lance new Mark, Adam Peters always got 68 00:03:45,586 --> 00:03:48,226 Speaker 1: do we want to start things off with a quarterback 69 00:03:48,266 --> 00:03:50,826 Speaker 1: who says, you know, I will be happy with whatever 70 00:03:50,866 --> 00:03:52,706 Speaker 1: team I go to, as opposed to I want to 71 00:03:52,746 --> 00:03:55,506 Speaker 1: be a commander. I see Terry McLaurin and John Dotson, 72 00:03:55,546 --> 00:03:57,866 Speaker 1: and I want to be a commander. I think by 73 00:03:57,866 --> 00:04:00,426 Speaker 1: the time the draft comes, that will all be all settled. 74 00:04:00,426 --> 00:04:02,546 Speaker 1: And I got him going to to commanders. Three is 75 00:04:02,546 --> 00:04:04,466 Speaker 1: the Patriots. I'm gonna give you an analogy for the Patriots, 76 00:04:04,466 --> 00:04:09,226 Speaker 1: because there's been a lot of rumors about the Patriots 77 00:04:09,226 --> 00:04:11,146 Speaker 1: looking to trade back, and I even said it on 78 00:04:11,266 --> 00:04:14,106 Speaker 1: McAfee that they could trade back and then still get 79 00:04:14,186 --> 00:04:16,386 Speaker 1: McCarthy if they trade back a little, if they fall 80 00:04:16,386 --> 00:04:19,746 Speaker 1: in love with McCarthy. Here's how I see it, though. 81 00:04:20,786 --> 00:04:24,106 Speaker 1: Here's an analogy I would make and Aaron, my producer, 82 00:04:24,466 --> 00:04:26,506 Speaker 1: you're on the mic right, your mic is working, let's 83 00:04:26,546 --> 00:04:27,866 Speaker 1: say testing. Let's get you in there. 84 00:04:27,946 --> 00:04:30,346 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, I'm here. I'm ready for this beautiful analogy. 85 00:04:30,386 --> 00:04:36,106 Speaker 1: Make sure here's it all right. There's a house on 86 00:04:36,146 --> 00:04:39,266 Speaker 1: the block that forever just has a for sale sign 87 00:04:39,346 --> 00:04:41,586 Speaker 1: in front of it, and it's a beautiful house, and 88 00:04:41,666 --> 00:04:43,906 Speaker 1: every time you drive by, you're like, Wow, that house 89 00:04:43,986 --> 00:04:45,546 Speaker 1: is for sale, and that house is for sale, and 90 00:04:45,586 --> 00:04:47,866 Speaker 1: they do have open houses and people come and looking through. 91 00:04:48,346 --> 00:04:52,426 Speaker 1: It just never gets sold and the asking price might 92 00:04:52,466 --> 00:04:54,546 Speaker 1: be too high, or the owners don't actually want to 93 00:04:54,586 --> 00:04:57,066 Speaker 1: sell it. They just like to hear offers and be 94 00:04:57,146 --> 00:05:01,426 Speaker 1: told what this exists in America. That's the Patriots right now. 95 00:05:02,106 --> 00:05:04,066 Speaker 1: I don't think they're looking to sell the third pick. 96 00:05:04,146 --> 00:05:07,026 Speaker 1: I think Drake may is fine, is going to be 97 00:05:07,106 --> 00:05:08,986 Speaker 1: the future of this team. He's twenty one years old, 98 00:05:09,026 --> 00:05:11,826 Speaker 1: he's six foot four, he's a great kid. It comes 99 00:05:11,866 --> 00:05:15,626 Speaker 1: from an out sports family. Like you're the Patriots. You're 100 00:05:15,626 --> 00:05:17,386 Speaker 1: not looking at me in the top five anytime soon. 101 00:05:18,346 --> 00:05:20,666 Speaker 1: You're not going to have an opportunity to get these quarterbacks. 102 00:05:20,746 --> 00:05:23,626 Speaker 1: You know, as often as you you know, as often 103 00:05:23,666 --> 00:05:26,386 Speaker 1: as they come, take the quarterback. I don't care what 104 00:05:26,426 --> 00:05:28,866 Speaker 1: the offer is from Minnesota. Take the quarterback, because say 105 00:05:28,906 --> 00:05:32,386 Speaker 1: Minnesota offers you the eleven, the twenty three next year's 106 00:05:32,426 --> 00:05:34,346 Speaker 1: for so what if you don't have a quarterback, so 107 00:05:34,426 --> 00:05:37,426 Speaker 1: what so what? So at eleven you might get JJ 108 00:05:37,546 --> 00:05:42,226 Speaker 1: McCarthy and and that, okay, fine. I think it's Drake May. 109 00:05:42,946 --> 00:05:45,626 Speaker 1: And whether or not Jonathan Kraft is heavily involved or not, 110 00:05:46,946 --> 00:05:50,386 Speaker 1: I think that the football people, and Jonathan Craft probably included, 111 00:05:50,386 --> 00:05:52,586 Speaker 1: are like, get the quarterback. Let's start filling the building 112 00:05:53,546 --> 00:05:55,506 Speaker 1: because it was bleak at times last year in those 113 00:05:55,506 --> 00:05:59,186 Speaker 1: home games for the Patriots, and with Jacoby Brissett making 114 00:05:59,226 --> 00:06:02,666 Speaker 1: eight to ten million dollars, that's a serviceable veteran guy. 115 00:06:03,586 --> 00:06:06,946 Speaker 1: Bring in a rookie Drake May, third or all to 116 00:06:06,986 --> 00:06:12,346 Speaker 1: the Patriots. Cardinals. Chalk would have Marvin Harrison. I think 117 00:06:12,386 --> 00:06:14,546 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison makes a lot of sense. There's your Larry 118 00:06:14,546 --> 00:06:18,066 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald for the next two decades if you can get 119 00:06:18,106 --> 00:06:20,546 Speaker 1: them in there. And it's fine. Where things get interesting 120 00:06:20,586 --> 00:06:22,946 Speaker 1: and where my notes really begin, as we'll do a 121 00:06:22,946 --> 00:06:24,706 Speaker 1: mock draft on part two on this thing. But the 122 00:06:25,026 --> 00:06:27,666 Speaker 1: things get interesting at five to me because there's multiple 123 00:06:27,666 --> 00:06:31,586 Speaker 1: things happening here. One, the Chargers will not be taking 124 00:06:31,586 --> 00:06:36,026 Speaker 1: a quarterback, and there's one quarterback left with the grade 125 00:06:36,026 --> 00:06:38,386 Speaker 1: that's worthy of being in the spot, and there are 126 00:06:38,426 --> 00:06:40,506 Speaker 1: probably three or four teams that might be interested. So 127 00:06:40,546 --> 00:06:42,106 Speaker 1: then it becomes a bit of a feeding frenzy. Who's 128 00:06:42,106 --> 00:06:43,666 Speaker 1: gonna be able to go up and get them? Who 129 00:06:43,706 --> 00:06:46,306 Speaker 1: wants them? And if the Chargers are at five, do 130 00:06:46,346 --> 00:06:49,706 Speaker 1: they trade him to the highest bidder? Do they end 131 00:06:49,786 --> 00:06:52,266 Speaker 1: up just taking their guy? Because you could end up 132 00:06:52,306 --> 00:06:55,266 Speaker 1: missing out on a top tackler or top wide receiver 133 00:06:55,306 --> 00:06:57,146 Speaker 1: if you move too far down in the draft here. 134 00:06:57,226 --> 00:07:00,506 Speaker 1: So the Chargers at five become really interesting. The other 135 00:07:00,506 --> 00:07:03,866 Speaker 1: little rinkle I've heard, and you'll start hearing this more, 136 00:07:03,906 --> 00:07:07,906 Speaker 1: i'm sure over the next few hours, is that as 137 00:07:07,946 --> 00:07:11,266 Speaker 1: great as Joe alt is, who is a high school 138 00:07:11,306 --> 00:07:14,386 Speaker 1: legend at of Minnesota, a Notre Dame legend, a Notre Dame, and. 139 00:07:14,546 --> 00:07:14,786 Speaker 2: Was the. 140 00:07:16,586 --> 00:07:21,306 Speaker 1: Consensus top left tackle in this draft, Jc Latham, three 141 00:07:21,426 --> 00:07:27,186 Speaker 1: hundred and forty pound maller out of Alabama might fit 142 00:07:27,306 --> 00:07:29,666 Speaker 1: what Jim Harbaugh is trying to build. And they already 143 00:07:29,666 --> 00:07:33,146 Speaker 1: have Forshawn Slater as a left tackle, so that might 144 00:07:33,186 --> 00:07:36,746 Speaker 1: be the first wildcard. JC Latham being taken to the 145 00:07:36,866 --> 00:07:39,986 Speaker 1: Chargers before Joe Alt and Joe Walt still being on 146 00:07:40,066 --> 00:07:42,466 Speaker 1: the board. I've heard that from a few teams that 147 00:07:42,586 --> 00:07:45,586 Speaker 1: if you look at what Greg Roman's offenses have been, 148 00:07:45,586 --> 00:07:47,146 Speaker 1: if you look at what Harbaugh has done, and if 149 00:07:47,146 --> 00:07:51,666 Speaker 1: you think about the Alabama connection that Ozzie Knewsome had 150 00:07:52,266 --> 00:07:54,466 Speaker 1: and now Joe Hortiz, who spent twenty eight years with 151 00:07:54,506 --> 00:07:57,866 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens now comes over and the Chargers, there's 152 00:07:57,866 --> 00:08:02,026 Speaker 1: an Alabama connection there. Could JC Latham go before Joe Alt? 153 00:08:02,026 --> 00:08:07,346 Speaker 1: That's something to watch. Okay, more stuff there. Would they 154 00:08:07,386 --> 00:08:12,066 Speaker 1: ever trade with the Raiders or the Broncos. Probably not. 155 00:08:12,426 --> 00:08:14,226 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to trade with those teams 156 00:08:14,226 --> 00:08:15,986 Speaker 1: and let them get a quarterback so that they can 157 00:08:16,026 --> 00:08:18,466 Speaker 1: play them twice a year and have to deal with 158 00:08:18,546 --> 00:08:21,466 Speaker 1: knowing that they gave their division rivals the opportunity to 159 00:08:21,466 --> 00:08:25,426 Speaker 1: have JJ McCarthy, which really limits the quarterback teams for 160 00:08:25,826 --> 00:08:29,066 Speaker 1: McCarthy to the five spot to the Vikings, and does 161 00:08:29,106 --> 00:08:31,426 Speaker 1: that give leverage to the Vikings? Think about the chess 162 00:08:31,426 --> 00:08:33,226 Speaker 1: game here now, if they're not going to trade with 163 00:08:33,306 --> 00:08:36,386 Speaker 1: the Raiders or the Broncos. And there have been trades 164 00:08:36,426 --> 00:08:39,906 Speaker 1: within the division in the NFL Draft before, like Jamison 165 00:08:39,946 --> 00:08:42,866 Speaker 1: Williams was traded from the Vikings to the Lions in 166 00:08:42,906 --> 00:08:46,426 Speaker 1: a draft, and I believe the Cowboys and Eagles did 167 00:08:46,466 --> 00:08:49,986 Speaker 1: one and the deal that got Devonte Smith like that 168 00:08:50,066 --> 00:08:52,546 Speaker 1: and Mark Micha Parsons. I think that was on Draft 169 00:08:52,586 --> 00:08:55,106 Speaker 1: Day and somehow those two teams did come to terms 170 00:08:55,146 --> 00:08:58,506 Speaker 1: to a trade. But I don't know when you're talking 171 00:08:58,506 --> 00:09:01,546 Speaker 1: about a quarterback, like would the Chargers on a silver 172 00:09:01,626 --> 00:09:04,466 Speaker 1: platter give the Broncos and Raiders a chance to get 173 00:09:04,826 --> 00:09:08,226 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. I don't see it. Just competitively. I don't 174 00:09:08,266 --> 00:09:11,146 Speaker 1: see Jim Harbaugh doing Sean Payton and the Broncos any 175 00:09:11,186 --> 00:09:14,866 Speaker 1: favors and handing JJ McCarthy over. So in that case, 176 00:09:15,266 --> 00:09:20,066 Speaker 1: it really becomes just the Vikings. Now, if you're the Vikings, 177 00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:23,106 Speaker 1: you have the eleven, the twenty three, you don't have 178 00:09:23,146 --> 00:09:26,266 Speaker 1: a second, you have a third, and then next year 179 00:09:26,426 --> 00:09:30,786 Speaker 1: I don't think you have a whole bounty of picks 180 00:09:30,986 --> 00:09:34,106 Speaker 1: that you can offer. So if you're the Vikings, is 181 00:09:34,146 --> 00:09:37,626 Speaker 1: it eleven and twenty three up to five for JJ? McCarthy. Well, 182 00:09:37,666 --> 00:09:40,546 Speaker 1: it sounds like that's the bare minimum of what the 183 00:09:40,666 --> 00:09:43,986 Speaker 1: Chargers would want. But if you're in Minnesota and you 184 00:09:44,026 --> 00:09:46,546 Speaker 1: already know that they're probably not going to trade with 185 00:09:46,586 --> 00:09:48,626 Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Raiders, it's a game of chicken. 186 00:09:48,826 --> 00:09:52,426 Speaker 1: It's like, who am I betting against? Here? Who am 187 00:09:52,466 --> 00:09:55,706 Speaker 1: I dealing against? And can I keep that twenty three 188 00:09:55,946 --> 00:09:58,346 Speaker 1: and just trade the eleven and something else and move 189 00:09:58,426 --> 00:09:59,346 Speaker 1: up six spots. 190 00:10:00,586 --> 00:10:03,426 Speaker 2: I haven't heard anyone talking about them keeping twenty three. 191 00:10:03,546 --> 00:10:05,826 Speaker 2: That's keeping twenty three. 192 00:10:05,426 --> 00:10:09,106 Speaker 1: They keep eleven, they trade eleven, they trade a future 193 00:10:09,146 --> 00:10:10,986 Speaker 1: bunch of picks, and they keep twenty three, so that 194 00:10:11,026 --> 00:10:13,906 Speaker 1: they have the five and the twenty three. They get 195 00:10:13,946 --> 00:10:16,946 Speaker 1: an offensive, they get their quarterback, and then they also 196 00:10:17,026 --> 00:10:19,746 Speaker 1: that's all. This is why the five spots so interesting, 197 00:10:20,626 --> 00:10:23,386 Speaker 1: which leads to six. I put in my first mock 198 00:10:23,466 --> 00:10:27,186 Speaker 1: draft that JJ McCarthy, who's gonna go to the Giants? 199 00:10:27,186 --> 00:10:29,426 Speaker 1: They're gonna trade up to get them. I've cooled down 200 00:10:29,466 --> 00:10:30,586 Speaker 1: a little bit on that, but I can tell you 201 00:10:30,666 --> 00:10:32,706 Speaker 1: they met with him again, Like they've had more meetings 202 00:10:32,746 --> 00:10:35,026 Speaker 1: with JJ McCarthy, and he's still very much a part 203 00:10:35,026 --> 00:10:38,066 Speaker 1: of it. At the end of the day. And I 204 00:10:38,106 --> 00:10:43,386 Speaker 1: made this point to Art Stapleton, who does the Giants 205 00:10:43,426 --> 00:10:46,986 Speaker 1: All in podcast. They spent their entire Easter weekend in 206 00:10:47,066 --> 00:10:49,386 Speaker 1: ann Arbor, and I say they I am in the brass. 207 00:10:49,426 --> 00:10:51,906 Speaker 1: So if they're going to vote all that time, and 208 00:10:51,946 --> 00:10:54,626 Speaker 1: they're gonna do it on the night before Easter and 209 00:10:54,666 --> 00:10:56,746 Speaker 1: then Easter Sunday and be away from their families, and 210 00:10:56,746 --> 00:10:59,786 Speaker 1: they're all out there like, that's not for us, smoke 211 00:10:59,866 --> 00:11:02,106 Speaker 1: screen so that we're doing mock drafts and we have 212 00:11:02,226 --> 00:11:04,306 Speaker 1: them take it, that's not it's because they're actually interested. 213 00:11:04,346 --> 00:11:08,826 Speaker 1: And JJ McCarthy did media today and they asked him 214 00:11:08,826 --> 00:11:10,866 Speaker 1: what team he's met the most with and his answer 215 00:11:10,906 --> 00:11:13,866 Speaker 1: was a New York Giant. So I think that's interesting. 216 00:11:14,586 --> 00:11:19,626 Speaker 1: Giants also interesting. Alt might be on the board, Neighbors 217 00:11:19,706 --> 00:11:22,226 Speaker 1: might be on the board. But I've got a little 218 00:11:22,226 --> 00:11:25,546 Speaker 1: wildcard to watch for the Giants, and that's Roma Dunsa 219 00:11:25,986 --> 00:11:31,746 Speaker 1: out of Washington. I'll say this a dounsay. Everyone who's 220 00:11:31,746 --> 00:11:33,866 Speaker 1: met him is like, he's got the best presence of 221 00:11:33,946 --> 00:11:39,146 Speaker 1: any of these guys. Walks in he's character. He's all 222 00:11:39,186 --> 00:11:43,426 Speaker 1: world human. And if you're the Giants and you've been 223 00:11:43,466 --> 00:11:47,466 Speaker 1: through Kadarius Tony as a first round pick, and you've 224 00:11:47,506 --> 00:11:50,546 Speaker 1: been through some other questionable ones over the years, and 225 00:11:50,626 --> 00:11:52,706 Speaker 1: yet and things ended with Odell the way they did, 226 00:11:52,746 --> 00:11:55,106 Speaker 1: and O'Dell's actually a fine human being. Is something about 227 00:11:55,186 --> 00:11:59,066 Speaker 1: Odell's character just didn't work. And you hear that o'donsay 228 00:11:59,186 --> 00:12:03,346 Speaker 1: is all world and is the most you know, selfless servant, 229 00:12:03,666 --> 00:12:06,546 Speaker 1: you know polite? Oh does that not sort of? I 230 00:12:06,546 --> 00:12:09,626 Speaker 1: give you a doonsay vibes over neighbors who doesn't have that? 231 00:12:09,746 --> 00:12:11,706 Speaker 1: Right up now, I'm not going to trash neighbors because 232 00:12:11,706 --> 00:12:13,426 Speaker 1: he might be the best wide receiver in this draft, 233 00:12:13,466 --> 00:12:15,866 Speaker 1: and for twenty nine of thirty two teams, he might 234 00:12:15,906 --> 00:12:19,146 Speaker 1: be the first guy on the board. Everyone's got neighbors. 235 00:12:19,186 --> 00:12:21,946 Speaker 1: Going to the Giants, I would just say, keep an 236 00:12:21,986 --> 00:12:25,626 Speaker 1: eye on the offensive tackle Joe Alt, remember Joe Shane 237 00:12:25,866 --> 00:12:28,546 Speaker 1: big Notre Dame fan growing up, there's Notre Dame tie there. 238 00:12:28,946 --> 00:12:33,106 Speaker 1: But also keep an eye on Roma Dunza for the Giants. 239 00:12:33,386 --> 00:12:36,266 Speaker 1: He screams mister giant to me from everything I hear, 240 00:12:36,466 --> 00:12:46,746 Speaker 1: and I think that one's interesting. Tennessee. We've heard everything 241 00:12:46,866 --> 00:12:51,506 Speaker 1: on Tennessee from Oh, they might they might like all 242 00:12:51,586 --> 00:12:53,466 Speaker 1: as their number one guy. They might like lath them 243 00:12:53,506 --> 00:12:55,026 Speaker 1: as their number one guy. And then I've heard a 244 00:12:55,066 --> 00:12:56,906 Speaker 1: lot of neighbors stuff. Now, look, they did bring in 245 00:12:56,986 --> 00:12:59,506 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, but if you give a wide receiver room 246 00:12:59,506 --> 00:13:02,586 Speaker 1: of DeAndre Hopkins, Calvin Ridley, and Martin Malik neighbors, watch 247 00:13:02,666 --> 00:13:06,186 Speaker 1: out seven Tennessee. They can't go wrong, or they can 248 00:13:06,186 --> 00:13:08,106 Speaker 1: trade back, and that might be the spot where a 249 00:13:08,146 --> 00:13:12,266 Speaker 1: team like Minnesota or Denver or Vegas trades up. Remember, 250 00:13:12,986 --> 00:13:15,906 Speaker 1: I don't think the Chargers trade with Denver, and I 251 00:13:15,986 --> 00:13:18,866 Speaker 1: don't think the Chargers trade with the Raiders. I just 252 00:13:18,866 --> 00:13:22,186 Speaker 1: don't see it happening. So if the Giants aren't a 253 00:13:22,226 --> 00:13:25,186 Speaker 1: team that's going to trade back there, the next team 254 00:13:25,266 --> 00:13:27,506 Speaker 1: up is Tennessee. It's a little easier to trade within 255 00:13:27,546 --> 00:13:30,186 Speaker 1: the conference than it would be the division, so that 256 00:13:30,266 --> 00:13:33,146 Speaker 1: might be a trade partner to watch. Eight Atlanta. Everything 257 00:13:33,186 --> 00:13:37,346 Speaker 1: I hear is pass rusher Dallas Turner out of Alabama 258 00:13:37,546 --> 00:13:40,586 Speaker 1: or lat too if his medical checks out. And then 259 00:13:40,706 --> 00:13:42,866 Speaker 1: late in the game, I've heard a little Byron Murphy smoke. 260 00:13:43,306 --> 00:13:46,426 Speaker 1: I would be surprised if it's not a defensive player. 261 00:13:46,466 --> 00:13:51,826 Speaker 1: At eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, that's where I 262 00:13:51,866 --> 00:13:54,626 Speaker 1: get all kind of wonky trade stuff going. And I 263 00:13:54,666 --> 00:13:57,626 Speaker 1: think we're going to go through this in part two 264 00:13:57,666 --> 00:13:59,586 Speaker 1: of this podcast. If you're going to click on part two, 265 00:13:59,586 --> 00:14:01,226 Speaker 1: which is my actual mock draft, I'm gonna give you 266 00:14:01,226 --> 00:14:02,586 Speaker 1: a bunch of names and where they all are kind 267 00:14:02,626 --> 00:14:05,626 Speaker 1: of jarbled up here. This is where you've got a 268 00:14:05,706 --> 00:14:10,746 Speaker 1: Doonsay could go, Neighbors could go, Bowers could go, Latham 269 00:14:10,826 --> 00:14:14,386 Speaker 1: could go, tell a yac Fu Wanga could go, McCarthy 270 00:14:14,386 --> 00:14:17,826 Speaker 1: could go, Penns could go. You've got this glob of 271 00:14:17,826 --> 00:14:23,146 Speaker 1: offensive tackle, wide receiver and quarterbacks, and I think any 272 00:14:23,186 --> 00:14:24,666 Speaker 1: of the teams could be coming up and down, and 273 00:14:24,666 --> 00:14:27,786 Speaker 1: I'd keep an eye on guys, like, is this where 274 00:14:27,826 --> 00:14:31,146 Speaker 1: Indianapolis jumps up because other teams you know, loaded up 275 00:14:31,266 --> 00:14:34,506 Speaker 1: during freegency and they didn't. Is this where a Jacksonville 276 00:14:34,626 --> 00:14:37,106 Speaker 1: trades up because they lost out on Calvin Ridley? Like, 277 00:14:37,146 --> 00:14:39,346 Speaker 1: does Jacksonville move up and say we're gonna get brock 278 00:14:39,386 --> 00:14:42,946 Speaker 1: Bauers or Molak Neighbors the Broncos so they have to 279 00:14:42,946 --> 00:14:45,146 Speaker 1: move up a couple spots. If McCarthy starts slipping and 280 00:14:45,146 --> 00:14:48,106 Speaker 1: they want McCarthy, do the Broncos take bow Nicks. If 281 00:14:48,106 --> 00:14:50,546 Speaker 1: that's the case that they trade back a little bit, Tennessee, 282 00:14:51,186 --> 00:14:54,626 Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? And is the eleven team Minnesota? 283 00:14:54,666 --> 00:14:57,386 Speaker 1: Are they gonna be moving up down packaging not packaging. 284 00:14:57,826 --> 00:14:59,746 Speaker 1: I think that's where it gets really interesting. So tomorrow 285 00:14:59,866 --> 00:15:02,946 Speaker 1: night that'll be about nine picks in. I would say 286 00:15:03,186 --> 00:15:08,546 Speaker 1: around the Bears at nine is where it really gets spicy. 287 00:15:08,586 --> 00:15:10,226 Speaker 1: And then I just think it's an avalanche of trades 288 00:15:10,226 --> 00:15:12,786 Speaker 1: of teams going up and down trying to find what 289 00:15:12,946 --> 00:15:19,506 Speaker 1: they can get. Some notes on guys, all right, I 290 00:15:19,546 --> 00:15:24,586 Speaker 1: don't have a bo Knicks team at the moment. Broncos 291 00:15:24,586 --> 00:15:27,186 Speaker 1: would be that team. I just don't know if they 292 00:15:27,186 --> 00:15:29,306 Speaker 1: would take them at twelve. Other than that, I don't 293 00:15:29,306 --> 00:15:32,306 Speaker 1: know any other boon Knicks teams. I just think quarterback 294 00:15:32,386 --> 00:15:36,666 Speaker 1: need and what is in this draft? So bo Knicks 295 00:15:36,786 --> 00:15:41,186 Speaker 1: could be the twelfth overall pick to the Denver Broncos. 296 00:15:41,626 --> 00:15:44,146 Speaker 1: Bo Nicks could also be the Will Levis where he 297 00:15:44,146 --> 00:15:46,146 Speaker 1: doesn't get selected in the first round and we're just like, 298 00:15:46,226 --> 00:15:47,826 Speaker 1: how the hell did boon Knicks not get drafted. I 299 00:15:48,226 --> 00:15:51,866 Speaker 1: don't know where to do with bon Nicks. Raiders and 300 00:15:51,946 --> 00:15:55,346 Speaker 1: Seahawks are the two Michael Pennix teams. I keep hearing 301 00:15:55,386 --> 00:15:59,506 Speaker 1: about Raiders apparently had really good workouts with them. Thirteenth 302 00:15:59,506 --> 00:16:01,826 Speaker 1: overall pick seems like the right spot. He's the leader. 303 00:16:01,866 --> 00:16:07,426 Speaker 1: Da da Da da da Seattle. At sixteen Seattle their 304 00:16:07,466 --> 00:16:11,426 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb was Pennix's offensive coordinator at the 305 00:16:11,506 --> 00:16:14,826 Speaker 1: University of Washington. That was Mike McDonald, the new hire 306 00:16:14,866 --> 00:16:18,666 Speaker 1: that was as higher as the OC. If anybody knows Pennox, 307 00:16:18,666 --> 00:16:20,306 Speaker 1: it's him. If he falls all the way to sixteen, 308 00:16:20,346 --> 00:16:23,786 Speaker 1: that's a cool fit. Like local guy stays in Seattle, 309 00:16:24,146 --> 00:16:25,946 Speaker 1: gets to go play for the Seahawks, and you know, 310 00:16:26,026 --> 00:16:27,786 Speaker 1: Gino's got one more year. He left to think on 311 00:16:27,826 --> 00:16:31,906 Speaker 1: the contract. But they did trade picks or a pick 312 00:16:32,026 --> 00:16:34,386 Speaker 1: to get Sam Howell, which makes it seem odd that 313 00:16:34,426 --> 00:16:37,626 Speaker 1: they would take a quarterback after trading draft capital to 314 00:16:37,706 --> 00:16:41,666 Speaker 1: get Sam Howell. So Pennix, Raiders and Seahawks bon Nicks. 315 00:16:41,666 --> 00:16:44,786 Speaker 1: I've got broncos. I'll say this now on this podcast. 316 00:16:44,786 --> 00:16:46,906 Speaker 1: It might make news. I don't think Rams are a 317 00:16:46,906 --> 00:16:49,426 Speaker 1: Bonnicks team as much as everyone is tying them together. 318 00:16:49,506 --> 00:16:54,546 Speaker 1: Unless Sneed played with bo Nix's father, Patrick Nicks, and 319 00:16:54,626 --> 00:16:56,746 Speaker 1: they were at Auburn together and that's a cool connection. 320 00:16:56,826 --> 00:17:00,706 Speaker 1: And McVeigh obviously has been searching for a Stafford successor, 321 00:17:00,746 --> 00:17:04,146 Speaker 1: and whether it be Stetson Bennett last year or Jimmy 322 00:17:04,146 --> 00:17:07,626 Speaker 1: Garoppolo this year, or whatever else they've got, I just 323 00:17:07,666 --> 00:17:09,706 Speaker 1: don't think they're a first round quarterback team. And I 324 00:17:09,706 --> 00:17:12,306 Speaker 1: certainly don't think they're gonna move up to get Bo Nicks. 325 00:17:13,306 --> 00:17:16,106 Speaker 1: All right, Aaron, some more things. We haven't even talked about. 326 00:17:16,146 --> 00:17:19,026 Speaker 1: The defensive back position. I keep hearing the Eagles want 327 00:17:19,026 --> 00:17:21,026 Speaker 1: a defensive back, so I would circle them as a 328 00:17:21,026 --> 00:17:25,786 Speaker 1: potential trade up team. And the four dbs to look for, 329 00:17:25,906 --> 00:17:28,826 Speaker 1: and I think the order could vary from team to team, 330 00:17:28,826 --> 00:17:31,506 Speaker 1: But I think you got the two Alabama kids, Terry 331 00:17:31,586 --> 00:17:34,506 Speaker 1: and Arnold and kool Aid mckinstree. How I've been described, 332 00:17:35,066 --> 00:17:38,546 Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold was a red shirt sophomore, came in 333 00:17:38,866 --> 00:17:41,066 Speaker 1: as like a nickel guy and then evolved into one 334 00:17:41,106 --> 00:17:45,386 Speaker 1: of their top corners and is like all world amazing, 335 00:17:45,706 --> 00:17:48,346 Speaker 1: like you know, boy scout, the whole thing. Great. Then 336 00:17:48,346 --> 00:17:51,466 Speaker 1: you got kool Aid McKinstry, who is dealing with injury stuff, 337 00:17:52,226 --> 00:17:56,266 Speaker 1: but he is your flashier guy who maybe barks a 338 00:17:56,306 --> 00:17:59,746 Speaker 1: little bit more of that dog, you know, CB one mentality. 339 00:18:00,066 --> 00:18:02,386 Speaker 1: If you could have Dion as your kool Aid McKinstry, 340 00:18:02,426 --> 00:18:04,666 Speaker 1: then you could say Darryl Green is your Terryan Arnold 341 00:18:04,666 --> 00:18:07,346 Speaker 1: as far as demeanor and all that goes. Or maybe 342 00:18:07,346 --> 00:18:09,266 Speaker 1: nom the awesome Wall if you will, just like a 343 00:18:09,866 --> 00:18:11,746 Speaker 1: gentleman is what I'm describing as ARLs. So I want 344 00:18:11,746 --> 00:18:14,586 Speaker 1: to say those two guys and personalities are different, and 345 00:18:14,626 --> 00:18:16,906 Speaker 1: the abilities are different. And then you've got the kid 346 00:18:16,946 --> 00:18:20,266 Speaker 1: from Toledo, Quinean Mitchell, who will go top twenty. I 347 00:18:20,346 --> 00:18:24,746 Speaker 1: think he's a superb athlete. He came out in a 348 00:18:25,506 --> 00:18:26,946 Speaker 1: in an interview and said that he wanted to be 349 00:18:26,946 --> 00:18:29,626 Speaker 1: the greatest MAC athlete, a MAC football player of all time. 350 00:18:29,986 --> 00:18:33,626 Speaker 1: That's Jack Lambert, that's Antonio Gates, that's Ben Roethlisberger, that's 351 00:18:33,626 --> 00:18:36,266 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. But no Quey and Mitchell is saying that's me. 352 00:18:38,106 --> 00:18:40,826 Speaker 1: And then the last defensive back would be the wild 353 00:18:40,826 --> 00:18:42,706 Speaker 1: card in this thing. I don't know what to do 354 00:18:42,746 --> 00:18:48,026 Speaker 1: with Cooper Dejeen Aaron. Have you seen Cooper dejean basketball 355 00:18:48,026 --> 00:18:49,466 Speaker 1: footage highlights yet? No? 356 00:18:49,506 --> 00:18:50,866 Speaker 2: I haven't watched his basketball play. 357 00:18:51,186 --> 00:18:54,506 Speaker 1: Oh Man went to a school of I think a 358 00:18:54,666 --> 00:18:59,426 Speaker 1: thousand people in the town total in the school. It's 359 00:18:59,466 --> 00:19:01,186 Speaker 1: one of those where they had to combine like eight 360 00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:04,186 Speaker 1: different high schools to make a team. And he was 361 00:19:04,306 --> 00:19:07,386 Speaker 1: obviously All World Football, All World Beast Ketball. Do you 362 00:19:07,506 --> 00:19:09,306 Speaker 1: have the high school on there? Let's let's give it 363 00:19:09,346 --> 00:19:14,186 Speaker 1: some love here. Cooper Dejane's high school is called you'll 364 00:19:14,226 --> 00:19:15,826 Speaker 1: like this one and then we're gonna go. 365 00:19:16,386 --> 00:19:16,666 Speaker 2: Yeah. 366 00:19:17,026 --> 00:19:21,506 Speaker 1: So his high school was called OA BCIG, which was 367 00:19:21,546 --> 00:19:24,026 Speaker 1: like one of those combinations. Give me his hometown where 368 00:19:24,066 --> 00:19:26,226 Speaker 1: he's from, the town of a thousand because I think 369 00:19:26,266 --> 00:19:28,106 Speaker 1: we're gonna put it on the map in this podcast. 370 00:19:28,146 --> 00:19:33,026 Speaker 1: Cooper Degene, uh suit Falls, No, it's not suit Falls. 371 00:19:33,026 --> 00:19:35,146 Speaker 1: He might have been born there. Where did he grow up? 372 00:19:35,266 --> 00:19:35,786 Speaker 2: Odiball? 373 00:19:36,306 --> 00:19:38,106 Speaker 1: There we go. Tell me about Odaball. 374 00:19:38,186 --> 00:19:42,386 Speaker 2: Read me a little wiki on odobl Oh, gosh it, 375 00:19:44,946 --> 00:19:46,706 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anything about Odoblt. 376 00:19:46,746 --> 00:19:50,266 Speaker 1: I want the Odobault town of Okay. We're going to Odabolt, Iowa. 377 00:19:50,466 --> 00:19:53,506 Speaker 2: The website population as of the twenty twenty census was 378 00:19:53,586 --> 00:19:55,066 Speaker 2: nine hundred and ninety four people. 379 00:19:55,386 --> 00:19:59,346 Speaker 1: Nine hundred and ninety four people in the entire town, 380 00:19:59,986 --> 00:20:03,106 Speaker 1: and Cooper Degene comes from that town in Iowa. It's 381 00:20:03,146 --> 00:20:05,826 Speaker 1: just farmland, folks. It's it's incredible. 382 00:20:06,426 --> 00:20:10,986 Speaker 2: Sping picture on their town website is literally farmland. And 383 00:20:11,026 --> 00:20:13,866 Speaker 2: the second is a tractor parade, a tractor. As someone 384 00:20:13,866 --> 00:20:15,546 Speaker 2: who grew up in a very small town that also 385 00:20:15,586 --> 00:20:18,346 Speaker 2: had tractor parades, I know how important it is to 386 00:20:18,386 --> 00:20:20,466 Speaker 2: have a tractor parade when you're a small town, and 387 00:20:20,506 --> 00:20:22,186 Speaker 2: it is a sign of being a small town. 388 00:20:22,226 --> 00:20:24,466 Speaker 1: I'm telling you what we're We're on the website right now. 389 00:20:25,866 --> 00:20:29,186 Speaker 1: There is there is nothing to love about Odaball, Iowa. 390 00:20:29,266 --> 00:20:30,066 Speaker 1: This looks lovely. 391 00:20:30,266 --> 00:20:33,386 Speaker 2: This looks very much like Friday night lights would be 392 00:20:33,386 --> 00:20:36,066 Speaker 2: said here. I mean, you've got like the water tower 393 00:20:36,146 --> 00:20:38,626 Speaker 2: with the town name on it. You got these picturesque 394 00:20:38,626 --> 00:20:39,026 Speaker 2: a little bit. 395 00:20:39,466 --> 00:20:42,546 Speaker 1: Once in a hundred years you'll get a star athlete 396 00:20:42,546 --> 00:20:44,626 Speaker 1: in one of these towns. Yeah, that's Cooper de Gene. 397 00:20:45,386 --> 00:20:49,066 Speaker 1: Notable resident. Yeah, Jason, give me some notable residents who 398 00:20:49,066 --> 00:20:52,586 Speaker 1: we got one of one. Iowa Hawk Outs star cornerback 399 00:20:53,426 --> 00:20:56,626 Speaker 1: Cooper Degene. That's it. That's it. And and I think 400 00:20:56,626 --> 00:20:58,586 Speaker 1: he's a first round pick. I don't. I don't know 401 00:20:58,586 --> 00:21:00,706 Speaker 1: where to put him. I think somewhere twenty to thirty two, 402 00:21:00,746 --> 00:21:02,906 Speaker 1: But like, those are your four corners. So think of 403 00:21:02,946 --> 00:21:06,666 Speaker 1: those guys and Cooper maybe being the second round guy. Like, 404 00:21:06,746 --> 00:21:08,826 Speaker 1: if that's the case and you need a defensive back, 405 00:21:09,706 --> 00:21:11,826 Speaker 1: teams are going to be trading. So I've got like 406 00:21:12,026 --> 00:21:13,706 Speaker 1: a lot of teams wanted to move up to get 407 00:21:13,746 --> 00:21:16,426 Speaker 1: those three guys. And I think kool Aid's very interesting 408 00:21:17,666 --> 00:21:20,986 Speaker 1: because he didn't blow anybody at the combine or Pro 409 00:21:21,066 --> 00:21:23,106 Speaker 1: Day or any of that stuff, and if you watch 410 00:21:23,146 --> 00:21:35,706 Speaker 1: the film, he's there all right. Some other interesting names. 411 00:21:36,346 --> 00:21:38,786 Speaker 1: I think after the big three, the wide receivers get 412 00:21:38,826 --> 00:21:43,266 Speaker 1: really interesting. So I think Rome, Neighbors, and Harrison go 413 00:21:43,386 --> 00:21:45,986 Speaker 1: in the top twelve. Let's be generouslet's say top twelve. 414 00:21:46,586 --> 00:21:49,706 Speaker 1: Then you've got Brian Thomas at LSU. You got Xavier 415 00:21:49,746 --> 00:21:52,546 Speaker 1: Worthy the Burner out of Texas. Who is the combine 416 00:21:52,586 --> 00:21:55,146 Speaker 1: workout where You've got ad Mitchell out of Texas. You've 417 00:21:55,146 --> 00:22:00,226 Speaker 1: got Lad McConkie, you got Xavier Legette, and you look 418 00:22:00,226 --> 00:22:02,906 Speaker 1: at Keon Coleman at a Florida State kind of a 419 00:22:02,906 --> 00:22:06,426 Speaker 1: bigger body. I think those are your wide receiver names 420 00:22:07,026 --> 00:22:09,346 Speaker 1: that would go in the first round. You might have 421 00:22:09,386 --> 00:22:12,186 Speaker 1: another guy, you might have a Ricky Piersoll, you might 422 00:22:12,506 --> 00:22:15,906 Speaker 1: have Franklin, Troy Franklin. I think those guys are probably secondard. 423 00:22:15,946 --> 00:22:19,946 Speaker 1: But what's interesting is this in that twenty to thirty two, 424 00:22:20,626 --> 00:22:23,506 Speaker 1: You've got Steelers who might need a wide receiver. You've 425 00:22:23,506 --> 00:22:26,906 Speaker 1: got Lions who might need a wide receiver. You've got 426 00:22:27,426 --> 00:22:30,106 Speaker 1: the Cowboys who might need a wide receiver. You've got 427 00:22:30,946 --> 00:22:34,106 Speaker 1: an Arizona Cardinals team that's probably taken a wide out 428 00:22:34,106 --> 00:22:36,266 Speaker 1: at four, but like, if they can get two wideouts, 429 00:22:36,266 --> 00:22:39,146 Speaker 1: they'll be their top one and two wide outs. Buffalo 430 00:22:39,226 --> 00:22:42,586 Speaker 1: definitely needs a wide receiver. Baltimore could be in wide 431 00:22:42,626 --> 00:22:47,066 Speaker 1: receiver zone because of Odell's departure. Forty nine Ers could 432 00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:49,666 Speaker 1: be wide receiver. Rams could be wide receiver. And then 433 00:22:49,786 --> 00:22:52,986 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's really interesting. Thirty three are the 434 00:22:52,986 --> 00:22:55,346 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. They're likely going to take a receiver. They 435 00:22:55,346 --> 00:22:58,826 Speaker 1: have no receiving you help whatever. If you jump thirty 436 00:22:58,826 --> 00:23:01,266 Speaker 1: three and you get to thirty two, you get that 437 00:23:01,306 --> 00:23:05,666 Speaker 1: wide receiver for five years, not four. So you get 438 00:23:05,666 --> 00:23:08,546 Speaker 1: them under contract for five years, which is a really 439 00:23:08,586 --> 00:23:10,986 Speaker 1: interesting prospect. And so you look at teams who might 440 00:23:11,746 --> 00:23:14,986 Speaker 1: have wide receiver needs and say, okay, take someone else. 441 00:23:15,386 --> 00:23:19,346 Speaker 1: You know, say the Patriots, for example, they need a quarterback, 442 00:23:19,346 --> 00:23:21,706 Speaker 1: but they're desperate at wide receiver. Do they take a 443 00:23:21,946 --> 00:23:24,466 Speaker 1: quarterback at three and then trade back up to thirty two? 444 00:23:25,146 --> 00:23:28,146 Speaker 1: Very possible if you're the Jets and you don't want 445 00:23:28,186 --> 00:23:31,106 Speaker 1: to Now the Jets wouldn't be the right team for 446 00:23:31,186 --> 00:23:33,466 Speaker 1: the Giants and you want to go quarterback and say 447 00:23:33,466 --> 00:23:36,066 Speaker 1: we're taking McCarthy or alt but okay, we're going to 448 00:23:36,146 --> 00:23:38,506 Speaker 1: jump back in we get five years of Xavier Lagett 449 00:23:38,546 --> 00:23:41,186 Speaker 1: or five years of a d Mitchell. That could be 450 00:23:41,266 --> 00:23:44,346 Speaker 1: all right too. So I would circle that Kansas City 451 00:23:44,426 --> 00:23:46,586 Speaker 1: Chiefs thirty second pick, and I would say that might 452 00:23:46,626 --> 00:23:48,426 Speaker 1: be the spot where a team moves up to get 453 00:23:48,426 --> 00:23:52,386 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. A couple other little pieces of gossip 454 00:23:52,426 --> 00:23:56,266 Speaker 1: that I've been hearing. I think that Philly might be 455 00:23:56,346 --> 00:23:59,946 Speaker 1: moving around. I think that Jacksonville might be moving around. 456 00:23:59,986 --> 00:24:02,666 Speaker 1: I think Indie might be moving around. And here's one 457 00:24:03,346 --> 00:24:06,426 Speaker 1: that just as we're getting onto the mics, I think 458 00:24:06,546 --> 00:24:09,146 Speaker 1: Detroit might be looking to move around. Now they made 459 00:24:09,146 --> 00:24:11,986 Speaker 1: two big signings or extensions today. I'm on Rossin Brown 460 00:24:11,986 --> 00:24:14,906 Speaker 1: and Penny Sue. Well, now I love it. We're in Detroit. 461 00:24:14,906 --> 00:24:16,706 Speaker 1: They like hold it till a day before the draft. 462 00:24:16,706 --> 00:24:19,266 Speaker 1: Little news, little buzzler momentum. They could have done that 463 00:24:19,386 --> 00:24:21,306 Speaker 1: deal in the last several weeks, but they waited till 464 00:24:21,346 --> 00:24:23,586 Speaker 1: draft week while we're all here. But I find that 465 00:24:23,666 --> 00:24:26,266 Speaker 1: interesting to hear that Detroit's been making calls just to hear, 466 00:24:26,426 --> 00:24:29,906 Speaker 1: just to poke around, what do they need. Well, Detroit 467 00:24:30,026 --> 00:24:34,466 Speaker 1: could use a defensive end. Detroit could use a defensive back. Obviously, 468 00:24:34,466 --> 00:24:38,266 Speaker 1: they've had some issues, you know, with the back end there, 469 00:24:38,306 --> 00:24:40,866 Speaker 1: and there's been some departures this season, and one of 470 00:24:40,906 --> 00:24:43,826 Speaker 1: those players is having some legal stuff. So maybe it's 471 00:24:43,866 --> 00:24:49,946 Speaker 1: for one of the top corners. Interesting to watch running backs, 472 00:24:49,986 --> 00:24:52,826 Speaker 1: I don't see a single running back in the first round. 473 00:24:53,026 --> 00:24:55,786 Speaker 1: I guess Bijeon went first round last year and Gibbs 474 00:24:55,786 --> 00:24:58,746 Speaker 1: went first round. I don't even know if there's a 475 00:24:58,826 --> 00:25:01,066 Speaker 1: running back in the first fifty picks. To be honest, 476 00:25:01,866 --> 00:25:05,146 Speaker 1: I would say Marshawn Lloyd or Jonathan brook So the 477 00:25:05,186 --> 00:25:06,906 Speaker 1: top two running backs. But like that, it's not even 478 00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:10,186 Speaker 1: a position I'm considering right now. Safety not a position 479 00:25:10,226 --> 00:25:15,546 Speaker 1: I'm considering right now. Linebacker. There's some love for Colson 480 00:25:15,786 --> 00:25:19,626 Speaker 1: out of Michigan. Not a first rounder. I don't think 481 00:25:20,306 --> 00:25:22,866 Speaker 1: my whole deal is like I want to get as 482 00:25:22,906 --> 00:25:26,266 Speaker 1: many first round picks, right, So that's not direct HiT's necessarily, 483 00:25:26,306 --> 00:25:27,866 Speaker 1: but I'd like to give you the idea of like, 484 00:25:27,906 --> 00:25:30,346 Speaker 1: all right, if I get twenty two or twenty five 485 00:25:30,466 --> 00:25:32,666 Speaker 1: or twenty eight of the thirty two first round picks, 486 00:25:32,666 --> 00:25:34,826 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. I don't see any running backs. I 487 00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:37,506 Speaker 1: don't see any pure safeties. I don't see any linebackers 488 00:25:38,306 --> 00:25:40,146 Speaker 1: middle linebackers. I would have been wrong because I didn't 489 00:25:40,146 --> 00:25:44,586 Speaker 1: have Jack Campbell last year. And then I'm not sure 490 00:25:46,666 --> 00:25:49,706 Speaker 1: other than Brock Bowers if we're going to even smell 491 00:25:49,706 --> 00:25:53,826 Speaker 1: a tight end up top. Rock Bowers is interesting, another 492 00:25:53,946 --> 00:25:56,266 Speaker 1: name I've heard tied to a million teams, and yet 493 00:25:56,986 --> 00:25:58,386 Speaker 1: when you're doing a mock draft, if you don't have 494 00:25:58,466 --> 00:26:01,066 Speaker 1: him to the Jets, like it's hard to place him. 495 00:26:01,786 --> 00:26:03,586 Speaker 1: The two players that I've been told to have been 496 00:26:03,626 --> 00:26:09,306 Speaker 1: the cleanest prospects by cleanest meaning character, health, everything A 497 00:26:09,426 --> 00:26:14,866 Speaker 1: Doonesday and Brock Bowers. Both those guys are really interesting. 498 00:26:16,946 --> 00:26:20,586 Speaker 1: Team that I would watch to see what they do 499 00:26:20,786 --> 00:26:27,266 Speaker 1: if there's a quarterback slipping is the Denver Broncos. Do 500 00:26:27,346 --> 00:26:29,906 Speaker 1: they trade back into the first round? If they pass 501 00:26:29,986 --> 00:26:33,826 Speaker 1: on a McCarthy or a Knicks and one of them 502 00:26:33,866 --> 00:26:35,906 Speaker 1: is still sitting there with there be Pennix or Nicks. 503 00:26:36,546 --> 00:26:38,346 Speaker 1: They don't have a ton of ammunition. But I think 504 00:26:38,386 --> 00:26:41,186 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, looking at his quarterback room, could go to 505 00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:43,906 Speaker 1: war with Zach Wilson and convince himself that Zach Wilson 506 00:26:43,946 --> 00:26:47,346 Speaker 1: and Jared Stidham and then Denucie co compete. But I 507 00:26:47,346 --> 00:26:48,786 Speaker 1: think you feel a lot better if you ended up 508 00:26:48,786 --> 00:26:51,946 Speaker 1: getting Bo Nicks or a Spencer Rattler in the second round, 509 00:26:51,986 --> 00:26:55,986 Speaker 1: even a name that's been buzzing a bit, Byron Murphy 510 00:26:56,066 --> 00:26:59,066 Speaker 1: out of Texas. I originally had him going eighteen to 511 00:26:59,106 --> 00:27:00,946 Speaker 1: Cincinnati in my first mock dround. I think he was 512 00:27:00,986 --> 00:27:05,626 Speaker 1: higher than that. That was some of the feedback I got, 513 00:27:05,866 --> 00:27:07,786 Speaker 1: And then I would just go through the tackles and 514 00:27:07,986 --> 00:27:09,586 Speaker 1: one of those guys is going to be the first 515 00:27:09,586 --> 00:27:13,186 Speaker 1: one taken. It's either going to be Alt Fuaga or 516 00:27:13,226 --> 00:27:15,986 Speaker 1: this JC Latham, who, as we're recording this, I'm telling 517 00:27:16,026 --> 00:27:17,986 Speaker 1: you has got more heat than maybe any other player 518 00:27:18,066 --> 00:27:19,866 Speaker 1: in this draft. I just keep on hearing his name 519 00:27:19,906 --> 00:27:24,426 Speaker 1: come up. Oulu Fashanu at a Penn State has a 520 00:27:24,426 --> 00:27:26,066 Speaker 1: lot of fans. I think he's a guy who could 521 00:27:26,066 --> 00:27:29,266 Speaker 1: play left tackle, which is helpful. Would consider him a 522 00:27:29,346 --> 00:27:33,786 Speaker 1: top twenty pick for sure. Troy Fatanu out of Washington. 523 00:27:34,906 --> 00:27:38,826 Speaker 1: Not sure his health is everything that everyone wants. I've 524 00:27:38,826 --> 00:27:42,986 Speaker 1: heard some questions on that. I'm trying to spell his 525 00:27:43,066 --> 00:27:48,386 Speaker 1: name right here. Faugh new the auto correct on my 526 00:27:49,346 --> 00:27:52,386 Speaker 1: word document keeps on changing these guys' names. I'm like, no, 527 00:27:52,466 --> 00:27:56,866 Speaker 1: those are the real names. Relax. Amarus Mims is a 528 00:27:56,986 --> 00:28:01,586 Speaker 1: name to watch. Giant, massive offensive tackle out of Georgia. 529 00:28:03,066 --> 00:28:06,786 Speaker 1: Doesn't necessarily have the tape or what you want, like, 530 00:28:06,826 --> 00:28:09,226 Speaker 1: that's the upside guy. And then the last one I 531 00:28:09,226 --> 00:28:13,986 Speaker 1: would The two last ones I would circle is we 532 00:28:14,066 --> 00:28:16,106 Speaker 1: got an NFL head coach Colin right now, but we 533 00:28:16,146 --> 00:28:18,186 Speaker 1: can't pick that up on the podcast. We'll call him 534 00:28:18,226 --> 00:28:21,586 Speaker 1: back in a second. The other two would be Geiton 535 00:28:22,346 --> 00:28:28,066 Speaker 1: and Jordan Morgan who plays at Arizona. Those are your 536 00:28:28,066 --> 00:28:31,386 Speaker 1: first round prospects. You know you can go through the list. 537 00:28:31,426 --> 00:28:34,946 Speaker 1: Graham Barton, the inside guy at a duke. Darius Robinson 538 00:28:35,146 --> 00:28:39,946 Speaker 1: out of Missouri chop. Robinson's a name, the guy who's falling, 539 00:28:40,066 --> 00:28:41,946 Speaker 1: and I hate it for him because I think he's 540 00:28:41,946 --> 00:28:43,586 Speaker 1: a great kid, and I've seen him do the media tour. 541 00:28:43,626 --> 00:28:45,866 Speaker 1: I think Lotso is gonna fall. I had him going 542 00:28:46,426 --> 00:28:48,866 Speaker 1: top twelve in my first mock draft. I think he 543 00:28:48,946 --> 00:28:50,826 Speaker 1: ends up going in the twenties. The medicals just are 544 00:28:50,826 --> 00:28:53,986 Speaker 1: not as clean as everyone feeling comfortable. Seems like it 545 00:28:53,986 --> 00:28:55,346 Speaker 1: all you need is one team, like he can go 546 00:28:55,386 --> 00:28:57,386 Speaker 1: eighth to Atlanta and I wimb shock. But you know 547 00:28:57,466 --> 00:28:59,946 Speaker 1: what happened. He was medically retired with a neck injury 548 00:29:00,746 --> 00:29:04,306 Speaker 1: all season or draft season along. I've been told by everyone, 549 00:29:04,306 --> 00:29:06,586 Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. Well, the day for 550 00:29:06,626 --> 00:29:08,466 Speaker 1: the draft, I don't know if you're taking a guy 551 00:29:08,506 --> 00:29:10,306 Speaker 1: who was madic. I mean, just sucks to hear that. 552 00:29:10,346 --> 00:29:11,866 Speaker 1: But I don't think he's fallen out of the first round. 553 00:29:11,906 --> 00:29:14,146 Speaker 1: But I don't think he's going top eight or top twelve. 554 00:29:17,866 --> 00:29:19,586 Speaker 1: Before we get to my mock drafts on part two? 555 00:29:19,706 --> 00:29:22,826 Speaker 1: Is there anything? Oh, there's a guy Newton out of Illinois. 556 00:29:22,866 --> 00:29:26,026 Speaker 1: I didn't have him defensive tackle. I didn't have him 557 00:29:26,226 --> 00:29:28,786 Speaker 1: in my first round. And I heard it from every fan, 558 00:29:28,866 --> 00:29:30,906 Speaker 1: but did not hear it from NFL teams. So that 559 00:29:30,946 --> 00:29:33,066 Speaker 1: tells me that, like I might be less far off 560 00:29:33,106 --> 00:29:36,026 Speaker 1: on that maybe Newton goes, maybe he doesn't. But to 561 00:29:36,066 --> 00:29:38,746 Speaker 1: not have Newton from Illinois in the first round, it's 562 00:29:38,746 --> 00:29:40,186 Speaker 1: not like I missed on like a top ten pick 563 00:29:40,266 --> 00:29:45,626 Speaker 1: or anything. Pennix, like I said, two teams Nicks, I 564 00:29:45,666 --> 00:29:48,986 Speaker 1: only could think of the Broncos, and I think of 565 00:29:49,106 --> 00:29:52,546 Speaker 1: the Vikings miss quarterback in the top ten and McCarthy 566 00:29:52,586 --> 00:29:55,386 Speaker 1: gets taken like I think they could take at eleven 567 00:29:55,466 --> 00:29:57,826 Speaker 1: Penix and be okay. I would say this as we 568 00:29:57,866 --> 00:30:02,826 Speaker 1: wrap this little notes emptying session. From what I hear 569 00:30:03,026 --> 00:30:08,866 Speaker 1: and from what it sounds like, Minnesota is closer. How 570 00:30:08,906 --> 00:30:13,906 Speaker 1: do I put this, Minnesota might look at JJ McCarthy 571 00:30:13,946 --> 00:30:17,466 Speaker 1: closer to Pennix than they do Drake May, meaning the 572 00:30:18,186 --> 00:30:21,026 Speaker 1: Drake May might be their first you know, their their 573 00:30:21,026 --> 00:30:23,906 Speaker 1: love affair, and it's not like McCarthy's right after him. 574 00:30:23,906 --> 00:30:26,026 Speaker 1: I think there's a drop off, and then it's McCarthy 575 00:30:26,066 --> 00:30:28,146 Speaker 1: and there's less of a drop off, and then Pennix. 576 00:30:28,146 --> 00:30:30,866 Speaker 1: That's how I would order it for them. So that's 577 00:30:30,906 --> 00:30:33,186 Speaker 1: where I'm at at three or three thirty. I hope 578 00:30:33,186 --> 00:30:35,546 Speaker 1: that was exciting for everyone listening. As you're on the treadmill, 579 00:30:35,546 --> 00:30:39,546 Speaker 1: I would encourage you then to now click on part two, 580 00:30:39,586 --> 00:30:41,106 Speaker 1: which is going to be coming out as well, which 581 00:30:41,146 --> 00:30:43,506 Speaker 1: is where I'm coming out in my mock draft as 582 00:30:43,546 --> 00:30:49,986 Speaker 1: of four o'clock Eastern on Wednesday. And of course whatever's 583 00:30:49,986 --> 00:30:52,466 Speaker 1: printed on NFL dot Com on Thursday morning and I 584 00:30:52,466 --> 00:30:55,146 Speaker 1: present on Good Morning Football might be different because it 585 00:30:55,226 --> 00:30:57,386 Speaker 1: might have changed based on until I've gotten over the 586 00:30:57,426 --> 00:31:01,026 Speaker 1: last few hours. But this is my my empty of 587 00:31:01,066 --> 00:31:03,546 Speaker 1: the notebook. Like I said, I think it could be 588 00:31:03,586 --> 00:31:05,506 Speaker 1: six quarterbacks taken. I wouldn't be shocked if it was 589 00:31:05,586 --> 00:31:09,386 Speaker 1: just five. I think there's going to be ten or 590 00:31:09,426 --> 00:31:12,386 Speaker 1: so trades made in this draft, and I think there 591 00:31:12,386 --> 00:31:17,226 Speaker 1: are going to be some wild, wild moves going on 592 00:31:17,266 --> 00:31:21,466 Speaker 1: from about nine to fourteen. That includes the Jets, that 593 00:31:21,546 --> 00:31:25,706 Speaker 1: includes the Broncos, that includes the Vikings, that includes the Bears. 594 00:31:25,746 --> 00:31:27,386 Speaker 1: Like I don't think it's just going to be chalk, 595 00:31:28,746 --> 00:31:31,826 Speaker 1: So take with that what you will. Everybody, finish up 596 00:31:31,826 --> 00:31:35,386 Speaker 1: your session on the treadmill or your drive or wherever. 597 00:31:35,066 --> 00:31:37,906 Speaker 2: Else, or your match of call of duty. 598 00:31:38,346 --> 00:31:40,066 Speaker 1: You'aying I'm a Minecraft guy? 599 00:31:40,186 --> 00:31:40,386 Speaker 2: Oh? 600 00:31:40,786 --> 00:31:42,146 Speaker 1: Never never played Minecraft? Yeah? 601 00:31:42,306 --> 00:31:43,066 Speaker 2: I have not either. 602 00:31:43,346 --> 00:31:44,626 Speaker 1: Are you into the shoot them up game? 603 00:31:44,746 --> 00:31:48,106 Speaker 2: No? I am notoriously horrible at any first person kind 604 00:31:48,186 --> 00:31:48,426 Speaker 2: of thing. 605 00:31:48,546 --> 00:31:49,626 Speaker 1: What about Twitch? 606 00:31:49,706 --> 00:31:53,346 Speaker 2: You ever watched anyone play video over pandemic? I watched 607 00:31:53,386 --> 00:31:58,226 Speaker 2: some people play among Us and great people play. I 608 00:31:58,226 --> 00:32:00,906 Speaker 2: actually watched people play mad in one teacher one time 609 00:32:01,506 --> 00:32:02,026 Speaker 2: one time. 610 00:32:03,106 --> 00:32:04,906 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not like, So let me ask you about 611 00:32:04,906 --> 00:32:07,026 Speaker 1: among Us? Is that did they take among Us and 612 00:32:07,026 --> 00:32:11,586 Speaker 1: then make the HBO show based on among Us? Yes? 613 00:32:11,786 --> 00:32:12,946 Speaker 2: You thinking about Last of Us? 614 00:32:13,106 --> 00:32:13,306 Speaker 1: Yes? 615 00:32:13,666 --> 00:32:16,026 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's among Us is like a cute kids 616 00:32:16,066 --> 00:32:19,906 Speaker 2: game where like you're on a spaceship and right different game. 617 00:32:20,066 --> 00:32:23,666 Speaker 2: Last of Us is like the gritty zombie post apocalyptic thing. 618 00:32:23,826 --> 00:32:26,906 Speaker 1: Got it one last thing before we wrap it up? 619 00:32:26,946 --> 00:32:29,706 Speaker 1: How dumb? Sorry? How do I put this? 620 00:32:31,746 --> 00:32:35,346 Speaker 2: Good start? Interested to see where this goes? 621 00:32:37,266 --> 00:32:41,826 Speaker 1: As an NBA fan, You're gonna put Nick Sixers and 622 00:32:42,226 --> 00:32:45,986 Speaker 1: Nuggets Lakers on Thursday night up against the NFL Draft, Like, 623 00:32:46,786 --> 00:32:48,506 Speaker 1: can you wait at night? Can you take Can the 624 00:32:48,586 --> 00:32:51,186 Speaker 1: NBA have some foresight on this and say, you know what, 625 00:32:51,866 --> 00:32:55,066 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft is a big deal. ESPN is a partner, 626 00:32:55,746 --> 00:32:59,506 Speaker 1: the NFL network is gonna be airing, Like, I'm devastated. 627 00:32:59,506 --> 00:33:03,626 Speaker 1: I can't watch my Knicks play the Sixers Game three 628 00:33:03,706 --> 00:33:05,906 Speaker 1: and I just see the schedule it's a loaded NBA night, 629 00:33:05,906 --> 00:33:08,266 Speaker 1: and it's like, guys, I'm not asking you to put 630 00:33:08,306 --> 00:33:10,706 Speaker 1: up a white flag here, but maybe just play that 631 00:33:10,746 --> 00:33:13,546 Speaker 1: game Friday night of Night two as opposed to going 632 00:33:13,626 --> 00:33:16,706 Speaker 1: up against the Jets and the Giants with top ten picks. 633 00:33:16,506 --> 00:33:20,146 Speaker 2: Especially when you have huge storylines around each one. The 634 00:33:20,226 --> 00:33:24,986 Speaker 2: Knicks game, like, I mean, the Knicks beating Embiid would 635 00:33:24,986 --> 00:33:25,466 Speaker 2: be amazing. 636 00:33:25,986 --> 00:33:28,586 Speaker 1: Whatever, that's amazing series that you can't That's how do 637 00:33:28,626 --> 00:33:30,826 Speaker 1: you ask a Knicks fan Because a Knicks fan is 638 00:33:30,826 --> 00:33:32,706 Speaker 1: obviously gonna watch the Knicks and watch it, but they're 639 00:33:32,706 --> 00:33:35,506 Speaker 1: also a Jets and Gizon. Then you've got Denver and 640 00:33:35,746 --> 00:33:36,706 Speaker 1: the Lakers. 641 00:33:36,386 --> 00:33:41,466 Speaker 2: And especially after Lebron's tantrum last ye, Yeah, that's a 642 00:33:41,506 --> 00:33:42,986 Speaker 2: wild night to. 643 00:33:42,986 --> 00:33:45,106 Speaker 1: Be Uh, maybe we wait on the schedule. Maybe we 644 00:33:45,226 --> 00:33:47,626 Speaker 1: just say, like, hey, out of respect, were the broadcast 645 00:33:47,626 --> 00:33:50,986 Speaker 1: partner airs the NFL Draft, We're just gonna kick it. 646 00:33:51,226 --> 00:33:54,266 Speaker 1: You know, baseball for years didn't play on like Memorial Day. 647 00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:57,666 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's my take, guys, All right, click 648 00:33:57,706 --> 00:33:59,386 Speaker 1: on part two. It's gonna be my mock draft, which 649 00:33:59,386 --> 00:34:10,586 Speaker 1: will probably be changed by tomorrow morning. The season with 650 00:34:10,666 --> 00:34:13,866 Speaker 1: Peter Schrager is a production of the NFL and partnership 651 00:34:13,866 --> 00:34:18,266 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 652 00:34:18,586 --> 00:34:21,626 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.