1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, and welcome to the program. Here from Combine 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Radio Row in the city of Indianapolis, and it's our 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: final show from here where the entire show comes from here. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: But we have a lot of interviews we got through 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: the course of the week that we're gonna be playing 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: next week and maybe in the coming weeks, because they're 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: not exactly timed out to whatever happens at these workouts 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: this weekend, and most of the big workouts are happening 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: today tomorrow Sunday quarterbacks, and we met some of them 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: this morning. They greeted the media, They met with a 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: sea of media in the case of Bryce Young and CJ. 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: Stroud and Anthony Richardson and Will Levis. So you can 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: see some of those photos on my Twitter feed at 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Texan's Voice. Of course, Johnny's gonna have a lot to 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: say about them, and let's check in with some people 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: who have a lot to say about the Combine in general. 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: All right, Later on today, rich Eisen on the program 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: visiting with DEPCITU. That's good stuff. And Rhett Lewis, who's 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: on NFL Network and is the brother of somebody who 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: works for the Texans. Morgan Kleinschmidt, who works in player development. 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: So obviously there's a local organizational angle with us with that. 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: But Red is a very well known guy on national TV, 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: so we'll catch up with him. But let's start it 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: off here. Draft expert Daniel Jeremiah Johnny and I had 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: a chance to catch up with him. How's it going, Daniel, 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. How are you guys doing doing well? 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: You also are the color commentator on Chargers Radio, which 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: is cool and former semi member of Texans Radio. That's right, 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: like a decade ago, we had you on every week 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: and then we replaced you with John. I know you 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: upgraded in a big way, but that was that was 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: actually and I've told you this before, but that was 33 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: great for me because I just kind of moved into 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: the media after coming out of scouting and just reps, right, 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: you want to get reps and it marks great. Gave 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: me reps every week. DJ. I want to ask you 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: this because you are, you know, part of the Chargers 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: squad and you and I talked in Nineteene that you 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: came down like I think it was probably fifteen minutes 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: before the game, and I saw you were a little 41 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: bit and it was kind of the scouting you wanted 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: to kind of get an up close personal view of things. 43 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: How has it changed the way that you analyze draft 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: prospects because you do get a chance to see an 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: NFL game every single week as opposed to you're seeing 46 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: college games every week when you're doing it and scouting, 47 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: has that changed it all for you? The fact that 48 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: you get to see the true dudes and then how 49 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: the next group of dudes coming in compare one hundred percent. 50 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that smart 51 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: personnel departments do is that they cross train their guys, 52 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, so they're seeing both. I know just from 53 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: time on the road as a college scout, you'd watch 54 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: college players all year long, and then you get all 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden you go out to training camp and 56 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: we'd have to value our own roster. And it works 57 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: both ways. Some of it's like, oh my gosh, like 58 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: this is what it looks, so this is what it's 59 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: supposed to look like. And then the other side of 60 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: it is like, Okay, I've been searching for this mythical 61 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: right tackle that doesn't exist, Like this is what plays like. 62 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: You may be being a little too hard on these kids, 63 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: because these are what the starting tackles, right tackles look 64 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: like in the NFL. What about quarterback Daniel, because that 65 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: subject has come up around here and the translation of 66 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: how they perform in college versus how it goes down 67 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: in the NFL and when to play in all of that, 68 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that process, Yeah, I mean it's it 69 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: is the same game, but a different game. You know. 70 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: It's obviously there's a lot more spread in space in 71 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: college than there is in the NFL. It's a lot 72 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: more restricted, a lot more condensed. So you've got to 73 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: factor all that stuff in your evaluation. But I've you know, 74 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: I think we can all see the traits. You know, 75 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: can you throw the ball accurately? Can you can you 76 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: extend plays, create plays? You make good decisions? You turn 77 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: the ball over? Like? I think those things are not 78 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: the heart evaluation of the quarterback. The hard part of 79 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: the evaluation is getting to know how the guy's wired. 80 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: You know, what type of commitment level, what type of intelligence? 81 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, those are the That's the thing on this 82 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: side of it's darnier impossible because you just don't get 83 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: spend enough time around them to get those questions answered 84 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Daniel as you do your mock draft, and I don't 85 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: know if you guys just don't do trades or can't 86 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: do trades, or don't want to do it, I don't know. 87 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: But if the draft stays where it is, you would 88 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: think if the Bears are going to stay to it, 89 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna take Jalen Carter and then obviously puts Bryce 90 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Young there at number two. Hey, do you think it 91 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: stays that way? Do you think there is a trade 92 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: up to number one? And if Rice Young is available, 93 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: does you make the right fit for the Houston Texas 94 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: at two? Yeah? Two, Part number one. I don't do 95 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: trades early because it just makes it kind of can 96 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: muck up the whole process. And so I just look 97 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: until we get to free agency and see how these 98 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 1: the deck gets shuffled. I'm not going to do trades. 99 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: You will at the end of the process. I don't 100 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: think the Bears stay at one. I think they trade it. 101 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: I think they either trade it. And you know, the 102 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: three that I think will be the most motivated would 103 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: be two, four and nine. You know, so with Houston 104 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Indian in Carolina, we got the Raiders in there at seven, 105 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: we'll see what they do. The veteran thing or not 106 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: seems to be more of a veteran team. I would 107 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: think that would be the way that they would go. 108 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: But I think the other three there will be some 109 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: motivation there. Oh my thoughts on Bryce Young here, let's 110 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: just get it out there. Okay, he's a tremendous playmaker, 111 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: great college quarterback. Everyone's talking about the size. But what 112 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: are you seeing as far as how his game fits 113 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Well, I don't think it fits every place. 114 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: I think it fits two and four. I look, I 115 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: just look at where you guys play. I look in 116 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: that division. I think it works in there. I think 117 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, you go out and get some interior offensive 118 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: lineman to be a little bit more firm in the middle. 119 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: I think that'll help. But I think all of his 120 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: skills translate. And I like the fact that you take 121 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: him at his lack of size, but he gets to 122 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: play in weather controlled environment. Um, I think it's I 123 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: think it's a great fit. I was so mad at 124 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: you this spring because I just finished my ride up 125 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: and I did a player comp and I wrote Drew 126 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: Brees for for Bryce Young. Yeah, and about three weeks 127 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: later I see you tweet. Yeah, his comp is bright 128 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: is Drew Brees, And I hit my head and I 129 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: just went I did this back in May time stamping. 130 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: But that said, as a pertains of Brice, everybody knows 131 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: he's short. Everybody knows it. For you and for evaluators, 132 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: is there an absolute just can't take a guy because height? Wait? 133 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Is there a particular trait or character risk tick? Now 134 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: you look at for a quarterback and go, no, way, 135 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: won't do it? Not. I mean from a physical standpoint, 136 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: I think there's thresholds, you know. So to me, you know, 137 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: his arm has to be strong enough, right, you know, 138 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, athletic the way the game's played now, you 139 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: gotta be able to move around enough. So I don't 140 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: think that means you have to be the strongest arm. 141 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to be the most accurate guy. 142 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: But that in terms of the size, the height, because 143 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: these kids, he's been this height his whole life, they've played, 144 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: he's played at the highest, highest level and he's been excellent. 145 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: You know, the tip passes are not an issue for him. 146 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: There's nothing like that. There's maybe you can watch tape 147 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: and you'll see a couple plays like, I don't think 148 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: he could really see there. But I've seen Russell Wilson, 149 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, have the success he's had at that height. 150 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: So the height thing doesn't bother me. The weight thing, 151 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if he showed up here and he 152 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: was one hundred and eighty two pounds, I'd be a 153 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: little nervous. But I think he's gonna show up and 154 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: be two hundred pounds and and that won't be as 155 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: big of a concern. I think the the hard set 156 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: rules of don't touch with that position are more character related, intelligence, work, ethic. 157 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: That's that's no like it's hard enough. Man, when you're 158 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: doing all that stuff, that doesn't guarantee success, But if 159 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: you're not willing to put in the work, you've got 160 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: no chance. Daniel Jeremiah joining us on Combine Radio Row. 161 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: All right, the legend of Anthony Richardson. If here, if 162 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: he throws well here this week, does he shoot up 163 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: all the media boards like crazy? Well, I you know, 164 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: coming into the process before he even picks up the football. 165 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: I think most people would agree he's got the most 166 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: ability of anybody. Like I always say, if you're an 167 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: alien in your spaceship landing. You only got to see 168 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: one week of college football. It was when he played Utah. 169 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: You say he's the best player, he's the best player here, 170 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: but you know, the consistency wasn't there, and he hasn't 171 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: played a ton of football, so he's he is the 172 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: ultimate boomer bust player. I think he will. He will 173 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: put on a show here. He's built for this. So 174 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: it's just a matter how much risk you want to assume, 175 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: and really do you believe in your development group that 176 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: you have in the plan in place. Some people said 177 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: he needs to play because he hasn't played that much. 178 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a bad idea. I think he needs to, 179 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, use the Mahomes formula. Let him sit for 180 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: a year, let him to get his feet dialed in, 181 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: let him understand and digest the offense. He's a smart guy, 182 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: but let him get control of all that information and 183 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: then I think you'll start to see, you know, him 184 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: trying to work through some of those flaws. But but 185 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: you've been a part of NFL organizations and the Mahomes 186 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: plan worked because they had Alex Smith and they were 187 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: still doing well. Yeah, you don't do well, But here's 188 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: the example. Here's the example. I had him going to 189 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: the Lions. Okay, the Lions fans lost their ever picking 190 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: mind and they said the uh yeah, yeah, Richardson, Richardson, Richardson. Um, 191 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: so I said, what what is the uh you know, 192 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: what's the knock? What's the knock here? So, oh, we've 193 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: got Jared Goff. He's playing winning football. I said, yeah, No, 194 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Alex Smith is playing winning football too, right. This guy's 195 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: upside is through the roof and he costs you nothing. 196 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: So um you know that, That to me was was 197 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: why I went there. I think it's one of the 198 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: hardest things for fans to see is the forecast beyond 199 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three or the current year. I think that's 200 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: the hardest thing to see, Like, oh, no, we need 201 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: this right now. We'll wait a second. Let's think about 202 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: what you can be in the future, and then also 203 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: seeing a players ceiling or what that ceiling could be 204 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: with what you already. These guys don't all cost the 205 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: same either, right, So it's not Jared Goff versus Florida quarterback. 206 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: It's not you're looking at him versus the three or 207 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: four extra players you get to add because you have 208 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: that extra money. Yeah. Absolutely. In this draft, Daniel, the 209 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: best and deepest position is the one you have the 210 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: most questions about, is well, I think the deepest position. 211 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: I love the edge rusher group. I think there's a 212 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: ton of them. I've said it's the best tight end 213 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: group in the last ten years. So those would be 214 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: two that come right off the top of my head. 215 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: The receiver position is nowhere near what it's been the 216 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: last few years, so that's the one that's down. How 217 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: hard is it for you, Daniel to check your work 218 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: in previous drafts and see how things panned out. Did 219 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: I get that right about these players or not? How 220 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: do you go about that process? Very scientific? Mark? What 221 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: I do is, I wait, I have all of this 222 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: in an next Excel sheet, So I have you know, 223 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: is there a lines he's a maniac. He does like 224 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: five hundred players. I do four hundred. That's it. So 225 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: I do four hundred players. And then three years after 226 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: the draft, in the summer, one day, in between jumping 227 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: and out of the pool, I'll come in, I'll pull 228 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: out that Excel sheet and I can look, you know, 229 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: at the games, if they started production all that kind 230 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: of stuff, It's not a scientific but I'll just go 231 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: I'll highlight him and green if I is a thumbs up, 232 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: and I'll highlight him and read if it's a thumbs down. 233 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: And you go through and I have the blurbs of 234 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: what I said about the players as well, and you'd 235 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: be amazed, like over the years there are telltale signs 236 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, you dummy, Like how did you not 237 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: see this? Like this is all in there to that point. 238 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: What's the biggest miss that taught you the most? I'll 239 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: give you mine. Do you let you think about that? 240 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: And he knows it, Dwayne Brown. I lost my absolute 241 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: ever love and you know what the day the Texans 242 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: drafted Dwayne Brown, because I just like, no way, what 243 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: I missed was the fact that he had elite athletic 244 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: skill and he wanted it, he wanted to be great, 245 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: and at that point those two can get you at 246 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: least a lot farther than I expected him to be 247 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: and up turning into pro bowler. That is sort of 248 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: mark my entire the rest of the way that I 249 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: look at prospects. Who was there somebody like that for 250 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: you that you missed and went, Okay, what did I 251 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: learn from that? And how you carry that forward. Yeah, 252 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean Kevin White's won like the receiver and then 253 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: I'd be out this the other day, Like big twelve 254 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: receivers has been a trail of tears and it's just 255 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: a different game that they play. But height, weight, speed, 256 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: guys who have inconsistent hands and can't run the full 257 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: compliment or routes don't don't do it. Yeah, So that 258 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: was a lesson there. And the other thing I would 259 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: say is there's I have this list actually to made 260 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: a document out of it to like remind myself non 261 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: negotiables corners that can't find and play the football done. 262 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't care if they run four two five, they're 263 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: six two, two hundred and fifteen pounds and your fluid 264 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: and athletic. If you can't find and play the ball 265 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: in college, you don't magically learn how to find and 266 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: play the ball in the NFL. Wait, go back to 267 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: the receivers here, height weight, speed guys so really fast, 268 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: big guys. If they don't have the hands in college, 269 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: you don't think they're gonna It's a combination. It's the 270 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: combination of the hands and the route running. So if 271 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: you can't if you can't drop your weight if you 272 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: in other words, if you're STI if you're a stiff 273 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: straight line speed receiver who has inconsistent hands. It is 274 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: a trail of tiers of guys with that profile. Bunch 275 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: of interesting. Yeah, and you can find guys that you 276 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: can find guys that didn't run as well, that were 277 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: pristine route runners and you'd say, oh, but he doesn't run. 278 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup didn't run all that fast days And there's 279 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: Davanta Adams four, five, seven, Uh, yeah, you know who's 280 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: the outlier in that group you talked about with the 281 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: Big twelve because it hit me right away and then 282 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: I was like, what else nobody else? Ceedee Lamb, Yeah, 283 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: it was a route runner, is route runner and great hands. 284 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: So there's three. There's three of the of like I 285 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: looked at, like the last seventeen Big twelve receivers drafted 286 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: in the first two or three rounds, three of them 287 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: have been really good players. Lockett was a route runner 288 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: in Kansas State. Um, you had Ceedee Lamb was a 289 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: route runner. And then and one that people won't realize, 290 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: but Hollywood Brown was a really good route runner at Oklahoma. 291 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: He was fast all get out, but he could run 292 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: all the routes like DeShawn Jackson. Good Daniel, we know 293 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: you have a lot of stop stocks, a lot for 294 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: joining us. Great Sea guys. There's Daniel Jeremiah here from 295 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: NFL Network Draft Expert. You could read a stuff on 296 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. All right, coming up, Rhet Lewis, also 297 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: from NFL Network. There's a theme here tonight, national television personality. 298 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: We'll visit with him and Rich Eisen and dep City 299 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: later on in the show. It's Texans Radio continuing with 300 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: our final show from Combine Radio Row in Indianapolis. All right, 301 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Johnny Harris and I caught up with Rhett Lewis from 302 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: NFL Network. You've seen him on a town He also 303 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: does some play by play. Well, we'll get into it 304 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: with him. In fact, let's go a little behind the 305 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: scenes here is We shot this for video and TV 306 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: as well, and we'll begin this segment Johnny and I 307 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: talking to Rhet. He's got the wrong brand of beverage 308 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: on the table, so we had him remove it. And 309 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: we'll let you hear all of that part because it's 310 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: kind of funny. As we get into the recorded for 311 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: video version of the interview, and the rest of it 312 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: for audio, So that's not a sponsor, you know. Okay, alright, 313 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: you guys gonna roll on this. They're gonna roll on this. 314 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: Rett I don't know, big. I hope TV cameras don't 315 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: intimidate you. Yeah, exactly. Well, you guys have any makeup 316 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: I can throw on here real quick. I'm sure Drew 317 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: sound like Drew Scott's I guarantee you Drew Cover Girl 318 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: Clean makeup brand. He really is. Okay, well we're starting. 319 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: I guess we're under way already. With Rhet Lewis here 320 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: and better known as Morgan Kleinschmidt's brother. There we go 321 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: and Morgan behind the scenes for those who don't know, 322 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: she's a player development person with the Texans, been with 323 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: us for a long time, and you're her brother, So 324 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: that's how we know you. That's it, and you know 325 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: this is this is great because for the longest time 326 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: I was known as Dean Kleinschmidt's son who spent forty 327 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: years in the league as a head athletic trainer. And 328 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: so now I'm Morgan's brother, which is great. H So 329 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: I just I'm happy to kind of fall in line there. 330 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: She loves Houston. She loves you guys. She loves working 331 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: for the Texans and spending some time you know, around 332 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: you guys, and around Drew who I've known for a 333 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: long time, and DP and UM seeing Dylan last the 334 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: last couple of days with you know, works with her 335 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: and then in the player development role. Um, it's easy 336 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: to see why she loves being a part of the Texas. 337 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: But we have to carve out a niche in some 338 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: way for you. Oh yeah, that's right by the way 339 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: of personalities that NFL network. But you do you do 340 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: a heck of a job, right, you do, so you 341 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: seem like you do a million different things an NFL network. 342 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: You're You're fair, You're sort of the darren sproles, if 343 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: you will, because they can put you anywhere and you 344 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: can do pretty much anything. And where are you expanding 345 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: to now? Like what all kind of lands on your plate? Well, 346 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: so this is my favorite time of year. For one. 347 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: This is like Christmas to me, truly it is and 348 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: really goes back to playoff time because playoff time is 349 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: also All Star game season. As we kind of make 350 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: that push, that beginning of that push towards the path 351 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: to the draft, right, And so that's what I love 352 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: when like those worlds really collide and then post Super 353 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: Bowl we really get that focus into the draft, right. 354 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: And so I just I love this part of the job, 355 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: like the draft, the combine. That's kind of become my 356 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: niche more so on these last couple of years, I 357 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: host our daily draft show, which begins in April, path 358 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: of the Draft, which I love, gonna be a part 359 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: of our our work for NFL plus on doing the 360 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: on field drills on Thursday and Friday, and so really 361 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: excited about that and just getting to know college players 362 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: because it's also become another part. I do the color 363 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: for the Indiana football radio broadcasts. I did that for 364 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: the first time this year. So it's great now because 365 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: like I used that to help me with this, right 366 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: because I see those players in person. So now I 367 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: could talk about all these guys that I've seen live 368 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: and not just getting to see them for the first 369 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: time at the combine anymore, which is great. So I 370 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: just like I love this time of year. I love 371 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: the opportunities that I get to be a part of 372 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: our draft coverage, you know, which starts here with the combine. 373 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: So I can ask you about Cam Jones. Let's go 374 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: Cam Jones. He's gonna do really well in the drills. 375 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: But the things that you're gonna love and people and 376 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: team you're gonna love about Cam Jones and things that 377 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: people aren't going to see, which are the interviews. He 378 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: is going to ace nuts stuff. He is Walter Payton 379 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: NFL Man of the Year material in the league. He 380 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: is a fantastic player in a really good dude rhet. 381 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: Lewis here you go, good fit off the ball linebacker 382 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: rhet with NFL Network of course you wait, so color 383 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: for Indiana. Yeah, I don't know if I knew this. 384 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: You've done some play by play as well on TV. 385 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: So boy, you are Darren Sprowls. You might be better 386 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: than Darren sprows And I love Darren Sprowls. Well see, 387 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm trying to become the first 388 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: play by play and color man. I'm just gonna try 389 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: to do the one man band thing. I didn't love 390 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: it for a while with Drew my first s thought. 391 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I just I want to be a 392 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: part of game broadcast. Mark right, truly right? So, Ray 393 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: Bentley and Dan Fouts both did color and play by play, 394 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah did too. Yeah, Dan Fouts did a little. Yeah 395 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: he did some play by play. That's amazing. Yeah, so 396 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: there and his father was was a sportscaster as well. 397 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 1: Today's history lesson is over right now. Rett lewis with us, 398 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: So Paths to the Draft. We see this show and 399 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: people ask us like, how do you guys have topics 400 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: every day? I'm like, it's not a problem, Believe me. 401 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: There's always something I'm talking about, always something to talk 402 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: about on Paths to the Draft? Do you focus more 403 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: on the players or the team needs or does it 404 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: change up? That's a great question, and I think for 405 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: the most part, and especially in the early part of it, 406 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: it's all about getting to know the players. And that's 407 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 1: what this combine is about too. It's about introducing the 408 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: players that you're going to eventually hear their names called 409 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: in Kansas City at the end of April now, and 410 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: getting people to understand their stories and know their strengths 411 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: and maybe that some of the weaknesses that teams are 412 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: going to talk about, and just getting to know the 413 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: full picture of some of these players, like you know, 414 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: getting to know Will Anderson of Alabama, getting to know 415 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: Bryce young, Um you know, who might look good in 416 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: blue and red. I don't know, getting getting to know 417 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: some of these these top players, especially the guys you know, 418 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: with you know, the quarterbacks, the big names, the guys 419 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna go in the first thirty one picks and 420 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: then just kind of introducing them and then like we 421 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: start to transition to all right, he's a great player 422 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: at the college level, but to become a great player 423 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: at the NFL level, it is so much more about 424 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: fit and finding the right fit, especially as you get 425 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: to quarterbacks. And now we're like, okay, I can see 426 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: Bryce Young fitting in, you know, with what Damiko Ryans 427 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: wants to do, or fitting in you know with what 428 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: um with what the Colts want to do with the Raiders, 429 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: and so you know, that's really kind of interesting and 430 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: intriguing it but it is. It is like a fifty 431 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: fifty truly so ratt when you are kind of diving 432 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: into your coverage. And we were talking to DJ the 433 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: other day and he's like, you know, I get into 434 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: like four hundred players, and we know how Buddy Lance, 435 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: He's like, he does like five hundred. So when you 436 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: dive into how how deep do you want to go like, 437 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: how much do you want your width and breadth to 438 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: really be of knowing who these guys are, because, like 439 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: you said, play by play guys, color guys, they're gonna 440 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: look at things completely differently, but you're kind of looking 441 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: at about how you kind of look at that and 442 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: separate and delineate between that. It's a good point. And 443 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: by the way zirlines an animal with the amount of 444 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: report that he does, DJ's the same. I mean DJ 445 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: was cranking on tape. He probably told you from seven 446 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: am to one am for two weeks straight trying to 447 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: get these three hundred and nineteen players there here at 448 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: the combine, you know, and put them in his database. 449 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: I am mostly focused this week on the defensive players. 450 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: So like I've had, you know, one hundred and fifty 451 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: or so that I've been trying to watch, Like I 452 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: am truly I'm trying to watch like twenty plays, yeah, 453 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: right of each guy, like just so I can sense 454 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: get a flavor and get an understanding and then once 455 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: this is over, you know, and we and that's you know, 456 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: It's a lot of times what evaluators end up doing 457 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: at the combine is like they'll see something pop right uh, 458 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: you see a forty time pop, You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, 459 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: and see that on tape. Look back and look at 460 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: that again, right, you see like I didn't see that 461 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: explosive ability. You know that he showed with a forty 462 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: inch vertical jump. Let me go back and see if 463 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: I can find that and find out why and how. 464 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: Um so, yeah, that's kind of like how I use that. 465 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: So I'll i'll I dip my toes in, whereas those 466 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: guys are going head first into the deep end of 467 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: the pool, right, And I just I just want to 468 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: have enough to inform the viewer and then to set 469 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: up the analyst, and then to also kind of formulate 470 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: a little bit of an opinion as well. Rehet Lewis 471 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: with us from NFL Network before I get too many 472 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: texts and tweets. Frank Gifford also played by Play and Color. 473 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: All right, another legendary guy. But I digress the modern 474 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: era back to this doing the drills and doing that 475 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: coverage on NFL network. This is really interesting because it 476 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: goes back a long way with NFL Network, and it 477 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: started off in a way that it is not now right, 478 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: You've evolved, So tell us about what you like to do, 479 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: how you're handling the coverage, what's changed over the years. Well, 480 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: so this is this is really cool because like I 481 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: used to watch the Combine like religiously when I was 482 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: grown up, and when it first got broadcast on NFL network, 483 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: I was like, this is amazing, Like we get a 484 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: chance to see this because my dad would let me 485 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: like sneak in and watch a couple you know, when 486 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: he was with Washington and I was just down the 487 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: road going to school here at Indiana. He's like, hey, 488 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: come up and spend a day and watch. And I 489 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is amazing. I wish this was 490 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: on TV. And then it turns out it is and 491 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: that's great. And so yeah, I mean it's evolved. I 492 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: mean like we've got like own flyovers of simulations of 493 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: how the drills are gonna go right, Like it's I mean, 494 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: the production value has gone way up through the roof. 495 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: And this year what we're doing a little bit differently 496 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: is you guys have probably seen NFL now has a 497 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: subscription service called NFL Plus, right, and so we're doing 498 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: a player's only version of the on field drills. I 499 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: don't know how I got into this as part of 500 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: the players only part because I was not invited to 501 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: the combine as a wide receiver in Indiana. In fact, 502 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: I decided not to run my forty at the pro 503 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: day because I had a sprained thumb. Okay, good reason, 504 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: good reasoning. I like that, good reasoning. So so I 505 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: get to be down there with like Kalias Campbell, Dwight Freeney, 506 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: Matthew Judan, Devin White, and so we get to do 507 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: like essentially a player's only version of the on field 508 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: drills with all these prospects on Thursday and Friday. That's 509 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: gonna go out on NFL Plus, whereas that used to 510 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: be a part of the main NFL network broadcast and 511 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: so now an NFL network, you'll just you'll hear rich 512 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: in DJ through those drills on their own, which which 513 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: is kind of cool. All Right. I know that Morgan, 514 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: I'd be curious about this, but it's a question for 515 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: offare Margan probably doesn't give you anything about the Texas, 516 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: and it's probably smart. So you looking at Texans, the 517 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: Texans with your kind of global NFL eyes, Yes, and 518 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: I know it's been a struggle for the last few years, 519 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: but what's kind of the national sentiment and what's kind 520 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: of your sentiment red as you look at the Texans 521 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: now after hiring Demiko, the draft class last year, extra 522 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: picks the next couple of years, sitting at number two, 523 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: number twelve, how do you kind of look at this 524 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: organization and where it is right now, where it could 525 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: possibly go. And I've said this now for more than 526 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: a year, like really since since Nick came in and 527 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: started to put his imprint on this organization. I was like, 528 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: there's some things to really get excited about. And I 529 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: know it was hard to to kind of to get 530 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: people to get excited about that fact when the wins 531 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: aren't showing up. Like, man, if you if you and 532 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: you can't do this in this game, but if you 533 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: separates and losses from it, and you just look at 534 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: the tape and you look at like, you know, the 535 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: flashes you've seen from Nico Collins, You look at what 536 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan did at the end of his rookie year, 537 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, two years ago, and you're like, damgn man, 538 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: that's and then you see Damian Pierce, you know, Bull 539 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: in a China Shop this year, and we saw flashes 540 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: from Davis Mills certainly a quarterback two. And then you 541 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: know you're starting to have those building blocks up front 542 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: as you keep trying to fortify that part of it. 543 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: And you got one of the best in the game obviously, 544 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: and LARRYMYE. Tunselm. The things that that I'm really excited 545 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: about are the young pieces on offense. Um. I think 546 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: if if we just seen a full season and a 547 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: full seventeen from Derek Stingley, we'd be talking about staying 548 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: the same way we're talking about Sauce with the Jets. Truly, 549 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: I think he's that kind of player. And so now 550 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: what I mean, what I'd love to see just from 551 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: the outside are more guys that can affect the quarterback 552 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of all, the guys that can 553 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: rush the passer, you know, and I think you're gonna 554 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: be here a great spot. And to get one at 555 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: two and at twelve, and you know the fact that 556 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: you got twelve picks in this draft as it is, 557 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: I know a lot of them are on Day three 558 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: with those w at four or five six rounders, four 559 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: six rounders I think, but you got five in the 560 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: top seventy three picks like that is an incredible opportunity 561 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: to build foundational pieces of this team. Wait, we're contractually 562 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: obligated to say this right now as of right now. 563 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: That's because picks aren't out yet and Necessario is our GM. 564 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: There's yeah, there's the real reason. You could just get 565 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: to the real reason here, and yeah, yeah, Nick's gonna 566 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: move around. We know that's the case. He's done at 567 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and he's done it masterfully, 568 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: so we know that's gonna happen. But having the assets 569 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: of five in the top seventy three, it's incredible, right, 570 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: And then I will say that like having Morgan is 571 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: my sister, you know, like I do keep a closer 572 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: eye on the Texans, you know, than than maybe I 573 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: would have otherwise. But man, I'm I mean, there is 574 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: a ton of of good young players to really get 575 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: excited about. Red Lewis NFL network with us, all right, 576 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: a couple more here, rank the off season events for us, 577 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: because you do NFL Network coverage all the time. So 578 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: so in your this is your personal opinion, I'll give 579 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: you all Star game, Okay, good one. Combine free agency 580 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: draft and can I count training camp schedule? Release schedule release? 581 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: That's a lot of events lose the order. All right, 582 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: good good call, good call. Um Okay, So for me, 583 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: number one is the draft. Number one is the draft. 584 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: The excitement. I mean, like, look, guys, I mean you remember, um, 585 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: if you can separate your AFC South rivalry bias for 586 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: a moment, the Draft in Nashville and the scene that's 587 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: we are calling people's names at a podium. Yeah, that's 588 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: what I always say. That's what I always say, Like, 589 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: but that is what I mean. That is but the 590 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: how it's done and the who does it and the 591 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: McAfee standing up there and just absolutely Titans fan, Oh 592 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: my god, it's just it's incredible. It's theater and it 593 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: really is that. It's a great reality show and like 594 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: you're seeing, really you're seeing storylines as the draft goes 595 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: up and down the board, first second round, and like 596 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: there's so much there's so much drama and intrigue and 597 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: we you know, and all of that is the build 598 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: up to it. Um. So the Draft is number one, 599 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: I would say for me, All Star Game season is 600 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: number two. Wow. Yeah, And that is from NFLPA Collegiate 601 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: Bowl at the Rose Bowl East West Shrine Game, which 602 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: I've done, played by play for the last couple of 603 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: years at in Vegas Allion at Allegiance Stadium Senior Bowl 604 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: right up there obviously HBCU Legacy Bowl. Uh, we get 605 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: to have like those are our events, right, They're on 606 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: NFL network and so we are such a big part 607 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: of them. And that's really the first introduction that we 608 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: get to make two fans about these players that now 609 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: I've seen in person following college football, and I get 610 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: to tell them why I love these guys, and I 611 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: get to be a part of the live broadcast, right, 612 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: and it makes you It's just it really signals like, hey, 613 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: it's draft season, so that's two All Star games are 614 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: tough to do. Well, Oh, I should have brought my boards. 615 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: Mark loved to have seen like the X marks through 616 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: all the players that decide not to play it. Just 617 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: watched this number. Yes, they got twelve decas on their helmets. 618 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: They've got so many decails on their helmets, you can't 619 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: tell anything like wait a second. And then of course 620 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: I know as a Senior Bowl and you see you 621 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: guys come in like wait a second, that guy, that 622 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: guy got here when wait, he got here this morning. Yeah, 623 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: it's tough. It's kind of like high school football, whether 624 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: changing jerseys on the fly and that kind of thing. 625 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: Let's talking to somebody. Broadcasting high school football is probably 626 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: harder than any other level of football. Oh my gosh. 627 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: I mean you have no resources, no information, where's the 628 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: PR guy? What PR guy? And then there's they're gonna 629 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: be invariably there's a kid I forgot his jersey forty five. Yeah, 630 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: the game, the whole game. Yeah, I mean the whole deal. 631 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, but it's a challenge. So that's two combinus three, 632 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: combinus combinus three. It's phenomenal. Um. And I do think 633 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: I have to separate out training camp because to me, 634 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: that's the start of the season. Yeah, it is a 635 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: different deal, and that is I have a passion for 636 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: training camp and it's usually my only chance to get 637 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: out and see teams. Yeah. Um, and for whatever reason, 638 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: I like, Houston is always at the top of my 639 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: wish list, but I haven't been in like five years. 640 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: That's gonna coming this year. Let's do it. Let's got 641 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: to be that national team this year. Okay. One of 642 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: those was a schedule release, which is that's that's that's 643 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: down there. It's a big deal. It's a tech pole 644 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: event for us. The NFL network is a big deal. 645 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: I know that I have no control over where I'm going, 646 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: and so the when these games are played, they have 647 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: no bearings well my life. Johnny Rhet is a national guy, 648 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: so release it's like whatever because it's all about the team, 649 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: right fans. For us, it's like when are we playing 650 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: at what time? Because we know the who was right went, 651 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's probably a little bit more for us 652 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: at that point. But I like your order though, like 653 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: our game when I was in when I was in 654 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: local sports in Boston covering the Patriots, I love schedule 655 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: release because I was just hoping and praying that we 656 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: got the Dolphins in South Beach in December. Yeah, but 657 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: they always lose that game. Yes, that's okay. Hey we 658 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: got Chicago in September last year. I felt like I 659 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: want I'm like, come on, nice dat Thanks a lot 660 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: for joining us, everybody. Thanks Mark. All right, there's our 661 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: buddy Rerent Lewis from NFL Network and another friend from 662 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: NFL Network coming up. I guess it's an all NFL 663 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: Network show. As dpcit who visits with Rich Eisen and 664 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: we'll get Johnny's Combine thoughts heading into the weekend workouts 665 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: as well. It's coming up on Texans Radio Fun final 666 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: segment here Texans All Access from the NFL Scouting Combine 667 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: and Indianapolis. As we promise, dpcit who visited with Rich 668 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: Eisen from NFL Network and the Rich Eisen Show, which 669 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: you can see on every device in America, and she 670 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: starts out this interview asking him a little behind the 671 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: scenes stuff, asking him when he's gonna do his famous 672 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: run Run Rich Run for charity for Saint Jude's in 673 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: two months. Yeah, is the injury, No, no, no, no, 674 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: It's just that due to covid um. We one year 675 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: ran it in La Okay, and then we invited NFL 676 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: legends to run with me, and that put a light 677 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: bulb over my head, like, if I continue to do 678 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: it and I get more legends and more people donating, 679 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: it brings in more money for the charity, and I 680 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: don't have to credential them here in Indianapolis, which is 681 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: a very difficult process, and I don't have to run 682 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: it at the combine. After sitting on my behind in 683 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: the booth for six straight hours and having them stretched 684 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: like for like six straight. It was just optimum in 685 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: so many different ways for the fundraising and making it 686 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: different and getting more people involved. So I'm gonna that's 687 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: the way I'm gonna do it. Now. Do you have 688 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 1: a goal just not to get hurt? And it raises 689 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: much money for Saint you Children's research, wonderful cause idea. 690 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: All right, Rich, let's talk about the Texans. Did you 691 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: go Ryans? What do you thought about the coaching hire. 692 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of excitement in Houston. What about Nashally? 693 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: I love the higher obviously, you know, we need to 694 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: see what he can do. But his his history with 695 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: the team, his history with the town. He met his 696 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: wife there. I guess he told me that they when 697 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: he came to my show. They met at a Bible 698 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: study in Houston when he was a player there. And 699 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,239 Speaker 1: then what he's done clearly as a coach and what 700 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: he's been able to do as a leader of other men, 701 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: it just makes it a terrific fit, certainly for a 702 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: team it's you know, one and done two previous coaches 703 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: to give him the amount of time that he's been given, 704 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: the fact that he can stand in a press conference 705 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: room and there's Brian Cushing and there's Andre Johnson. So 706 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: it's the history and bringing it all together. It just 707 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: works on so many different levels. And I'm excited for 708 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: the Texas. We got a lot of draft capital to 709 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: get to build on this team. Number two overall pick, 710 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: number twelve overall pick in the first round. If you're 711 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: Nick Cassio, who are you taking with number two? Jeez, 712 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: I guess the quarterback that's not taken number one overall 713 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: unless you fall head over heels in love with Will Anderson, 714 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: who I profer to say will be available second overall, 715 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: because somebody's gonna take a quarterback first overall. I doubt 716 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: it's the Bears. I bet you they'll trade out. Maybe 717 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: the Texans can flip to just trade up to one 718 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: and get that pickback that that they can then use 719 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: on a quarterback. So I would I would imagine right now, 720 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: as we're standing here on the first day of March, 721 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: I would I would say C. J. Strout will be 722 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: a new Houston Texan and then the proverbial best player 723 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: available the twelfth pick. It's possible a quarterback could be 724 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: still available there that they could roll the dice take 725 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: Will Anderson two and then roll the dice and figure 726 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: somebody else who they would like to have could still 727 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: be available at twelve, or they can sit there and 728 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: trade out and get more picks. So there's a lot 729 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: of options as opposed to the last couple of years. Yeah. Absolutely. 730 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: What about the Texans current draft class from last year 731 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: that's heading into year two, Guys like Damian Pierce, Derek Stanley, Jill, 732 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: and Petrie Nicko. Sirio drafted all these guys last year, 733 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: they're heading into year two. Would you sort of think 734 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: of what they did last year and how much they 735 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: can really build on this team with those guys. Well, 736 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: I saw Damian Pierce run and perform as well as 737 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: he did in the preseason. I think one preseason game 738 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: too late for me to get and draft him as 739 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: I wanted to in my fantasy league. I saw that, 740 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: think I saw that guy coming. He's got one of 741 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Brandt's scepters in the case angriest run of the year. Yes, 742 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: so he's got the ultimate scepter in the case. So 743 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: obviously you need a run game in this league. You 744 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: need the ability to defend the pass, and we saw 745 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: that out of a draft class last year. That you're 746 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: just kind assumes only going to get better. So I 747 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: think the Texans are appreciably better with us standing here 748 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: in this room this year than had we had this 749 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: chat last year. What about for the Texans, they had 750 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: so many years where they were really dominant in the 751 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: AFC South. The last few years have been rough. But 752 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: what do they need to do to get back to 753 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: that level. What's the next step they got to take 754 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: to be dominant once again? Get the quarterback? Get that right. 755 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: It's that simple. It's that simple. I mean, that's the 756 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: difference in this league of being incredibly successful and having 757 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 1: shot to win a Super Bowl or picking second overall 758 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: hiring coaches. So hopefully they'll get it right. It's that simple, right, Rich, 759 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: appreciate the time and good luck with the forty. You 760 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: have an angry run in your own. I appreciate that. 761 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: That's Rich. I was in and dp Cito visiting at 762 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: the NFL scouting combine and now Johnny Harris joins us. 763 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 1: On the way to a wonderful weekend, Johnny of working 764 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: out with the quarterbacks, not that you're gonna be doing NAT, 765 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: but they'll be doing NAT with each other. And other people. 766 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: And I'm curious to see I think true or false. 767 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: If Anthony Richardson throws well here, it is gonna blow 768 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: up for him. It is gonna be insanely active. The 769 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: hype machine will be rolling more than ever. What do 770 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: you make of what you saw this morning with the 771 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: guys at the podium and what you think of this weekend? Yeah, 772 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks wise, you know, I feel like, you know, Bryce 773 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: handled about fifteen thousand questions about his size, ye and 774 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: hand on them all very very well. I thought. Will 775 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: Levis is very composed up at the the mic, very confident. 776 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: CJ Strout same way. They've got a different they've got 777 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: a different way in aura kind of about them, but 778 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: you can tell both of them are pretty confident in 779 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 1: what they can do. Levis Is, asked, are you gonna 780 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: throw at the comedy, said, yeah, I got one of 781 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: the strongest arms in the draft. I'm gonna show it off. 782 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: It's I kind of like um. And then of course 783 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: you got Anthony Richardson, whom but his very white baritone 784 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: was awesome. I mean it was really funny. Kind of 785 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: listen to him and hear that voice just I mean, 786 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: he's all he's all the way down there, but seeing 787 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: him physically in person, it's notable because you and I 788 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: were standing off to the side of the podium where 789 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: we could really see them get up to the podium. 790 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: I put some pictures on Twitter. Yeah, of at least 791 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud, there's gonna be more. And 792 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: just to see Bryce get up they're fine, and see J. 793 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: Stroud fine, And then you see Richardson get up there. 794 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: You're like a physical specimen. Yeah, I mean the thing 795 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: is a lot of people, you know, look at Levis 796 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: and Richardson like, oh, they're kind of the same side. No, 797 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: they're not the same size at all. Anthony's legit six 798 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: four and and thick and thick, so he's I mean 799 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: he is, we is well well put together. But you know, 800 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: I got a chance to kind of pop in on 801 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the other quarterbacks listening to Head and 802 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 1: Hooker for a while, and man, you talk about impressive. 803 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: He was actually talking kind of scheme when I you know, 804 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: rolled up and you know, not you know, completely like 805 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: off to the side, your x's and those type stuff, 806 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: but just kind of you know, overall, you know, just 807 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: the way quarterbacks talk and how they how they talk 808 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: about protections and how easily they do that. It's always 809 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: kind of fun. Listen to my guy, Jake Hanner. He 810 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: was talking about how Fresno State changed some of the 811 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: protections and things they did this year. They had a 812 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: new coach that Jeff Tedford because Kaylin Debor had gone 813 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: to Washington, so he had to learn all that and 814 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: dealt with all that. So it was really cool. But 815 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: one of my favorite listeners of the entire day, it 816 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: was not a quarterback. It was actually Tank Dell the 817 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: University of Houston, which I'm still blown away by how 818 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: they figure out who goes to a podium and who 819 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: goes and sits at the table, and they put Tank 820 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 1: at a table and I'm like, this is ridiculous. Tanks 821 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: one of the best. He's one of the best players 822 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: in this drabt and he's going to show it off. 823 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna be in the fourth three range. 824 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: He is not physically big, but just listen to him 825 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: talk about Marcus Jones from the Patriots was really impressive. 826 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: And when Marcus had done and he was he was 827 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: very to the point about what he could do, what 828 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: he needed to work on you know, kind of the 829 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 1: road that he took to get to University of Houston, 830 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: and you know beyond to the Senior both to the Combine, etc. 831 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: He was really fun to listen to. TechEd off from 832 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: the University of Houston, and Tune was up there as well. Yeah, 833 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: Tune was here yesterday, Javarius Owens, So University Houston well 834 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: represented here for sure. I took a lap around the 835 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: convention center last night after after dinner, just to walk 836 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: it off, and I ran into Deuce Vaughn and a 837 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: few running backs workouts, because you see that from time 838 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 1: to time in various nooks and crannies of the convention 839 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: Center here in Indianapolis. And Vaughan is not a big fella. 840 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: We knew they try to kidnap him and bring him 841 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: back to Houston. I was trying to size him up. 842 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, he comes up to here 843 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: on me, big guy, don't don't even that's the thing. 844 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: And and I've kind kind of learned. It's like yesterday, 845 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: Um Nolan Smith put on our show physically over at 846 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: the over at the h Lucasoil Stadium the first night 847 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: of on field testing, and kind of learned we expected 848 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: that though we expected that. You know, It's like if 849 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: duce Vall walked up there it was five to ten, 850 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: we'd be like, whoa, that's not what we expected. They 851 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 1: expect duced to be five six eighty five pounds, but thick, smart, 852 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: tough took an eighty to the house against Alabama and 853 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: the Sugar Bowl. We'll step up and take on the 854 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: blitzing linebackers. I mean, he does a little bit of everything. 855 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: So even though he probably was ready at the you know, 856 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: your your zipper, you know right there and your quarters. 857 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: That dude could play. Yeah. You always talk about seeing 858 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: guys on the hoof or whatever, and this is a 859 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: really good example of that. When you see guys in 860 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: these track suits basically and what they look like, how 861 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: they present themselves, how they interact with the other teammates, 862 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: it's got to be a really memorable experience for them. 863 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: Not always great memories necessarily, but they're gonna remember this 864 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: forever because it's a convention unto itself for them, just 865 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: meeting all their college opponents. Yeah. Absolutely, And you hear 866 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: them when they're asked about, Hey, who is the best 867 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: guy you faced? And you know a lot of times 868 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: they answered guys that they played with, you know at 869 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: Ohio State, Jackson Smith and Jig who was talking about Shroud. 870 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: They were obviously talking about each other, uh this morning, 871 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: So you know, you hear, you hear those things and 872 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: then the one the ones that I'd love to hear. 873 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: Mark are always you know, who were players you idolized 874 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: grown up or who are players that you model your 875 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: game after? And I always listen to those now because 876 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: I want to know whether I got a cop right? 877 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: Did I get to copyright? Um? You know on a guy. Yeah, 878 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: that's not always the be all out, It isn't, but 879 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: I want to It's just always curious to me who 880 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: they pick. And you know, Jade Hazelwood, who had been 881 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,479 Speaker 1: at Arkansas then went to Oklahoma. Maybe the other way around, 882 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 1: I think with the Oklahoma first then with to Arkansas, 883 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: he was asked, you know who was the guy he liked, 884 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: just without missing the beat, DeAndre Hopkins. It's like, yeah, 885 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: that's a good one. That's a good that's a good 886 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: one to follow. So there's been a lot of those. 887 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: Did Jordan Addison he was asked them about an interview. 888 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: This is my favorite quote I think all day. He 889 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: was asked whether he had met with a particular team, 890 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: not to Texas, but did you meet with a particular team? Yeah, 891 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: I met with that team. I crushed it too. I 892 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: hope they thought that as well. That's confidence. All right, 893 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for our shows here from Indianapolis. 894 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: But we have a lot of content we got along 895 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: the way and you're gonna be hearing it next week 896 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: on Texans All Access as we review the weekend workouts 897 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: on Monday. We want to thank everyone who worked on 898 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: the programs this week and thank you Joe for producing. 899 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: Thank you Johnny as always, have a great night. Everyone. 900 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: Check out this show on the podcast, on the Texans 901 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: App and all the platforms. Go Texans.