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Speaker 1: Hiros Jends, Hey boo, it's me Roz. I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I feel great all

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Speaker 1: I don't know anyway, you know, I usually like to

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Speaker 1: Of course Zach Baggins has it now. He acquired it

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Speaker 1: Hello, So Lisa, New Mexico. How are you.

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Speaker 4: So in order to get to that closet, I'm going

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Speaker 4: starts to waltz. And she said, Mommy, it's perfect. We

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Speaker 4: the whole family, like when we have barbecues, and she goes, no, Mommy,

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Speaker 4: And so she makes it like this round through the hole,

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Speaker 4: Gosh, you just made it so much more impactful.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but you needed to know that because that's the

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Speaker 4: she's always been sensitive and things know when she's around,

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Speaker 4: It was in New Mexico, Okay, and it was military housing,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you want me to tell you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So there were stories, and there were things like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, literally, like no reason for them to still be moving.

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Speaker 4: She didn't see anyone. She always heard someone trying to

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Speaker 1: No, man, because that's what I always feel, is that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was trying to start shit. It was trying

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Speaker 4: That you guys, it was over there, like trying to

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Speaker 1: No, oh my god, I bet you that ghost was

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Speaker 4: So really like we both came to this immediate at

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, it's not just a Oigi board,

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Speaker 5: That's perfect.

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Speaker 1: get a priest in there, like some sage or like

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00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: do whatever. So like, I don't know, I guess that

435
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: that technique of just not not acknowledging it, like that

436
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: works too, right, It's just you have to you just

437
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: have to learn to live with Like it's probably still

438
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: going to be there. I don't know.

439
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: Oh I think it's still there. Yeah, I think it's

440
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 4: still there. And there there was there was a Facebook

441
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: group for people who lived there, so that you could say, hey,

442
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 4: where's my dog or whatever, and like in the neighborhood. Yeah,

443
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 4: so people were posting pretty often like has anything weird

444
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 4: happened in your house? Because I don't want to sound crazy,

445
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 4: but blah blah blah blah blah, and a lot of

446
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 4: people have stories. And one day I commented on someone's

447
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 4: post and I just said, you know, I was interested

448
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: in finding out the history of my of my house,

449
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 4: and someone messaged me like she went, she didn't even

450
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: comment back to me. She went straight to messaging me

451
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 4: and she said, please don't look up the history. You

452
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 4: don't want to know what it is.

453
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: And okay, well she didn't send me that message, and

454
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: I want to know.

455
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: And it was like I kind of was like, does

456
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 4: she know where I live? Because it's kind of weird

457
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 4: on a military base. It's like the most invasive way

458
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: to live, Like everybody knows where you are. People who

459
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 4: you've never even met before know who you are and

460
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 4: where you live, right, And she was like, no, no,

461
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: you don't want to know. It's all violent and sorrow.

462
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: You don't you don't need to know the history. Just

463
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: finish out your time and get out of there.

464
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 5: Wow.

465
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: But a lot of people have weird stuff.

466
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: Now.

467
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to get like into conspiracy theories and stuff,

468
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: but it being New Mexico military, could there be like

469
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: alien stuff going on?

470
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: Oh my god, don't you think so, I mean, that's

471
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: like the biggest, the biggest base ever. I'm not going

472
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 4: to say the name of it, but people will know.

473
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 4: It's just like there's definitely shit going on there. Oh

474
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Oh you can say shit, wait is there?

475
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: Did you ever have alien stuff for UFOs or like

476
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: any of that stuff happen?

477
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 4: No, No, all of my experiences are definitely just in

478
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: this little ghost and creepiness realm. Like I could tell

479
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: you some dark stuff that doesn't have anything to do

480
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: with that house, but that that house was I felt.

481
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 4: I felt really down all the time, and that's really

482
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 4: not me, Like I'm I used to get paid to

483
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: make people feel good and make them like motivate them,

484
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: and this house had me kind of broken. And I

485
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 4: would take a trip to California as often as I

486
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: could to see my family and stuff, and I swear like,

487
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: once I was two miles away from that base, I

488
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: was like, oh, I'm happy again. I'm why did I

489
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: feel so like, Oh my god, I got to get

490
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: out of here. I'm so happy now. But then on

491
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: my way back there after my trip home, like there

492
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: were times that I cried on my way back and

493
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: I didn't even know why I was like so miserable

494
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: to go back there.

495
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, just darkness.

496
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a bad place. And I think that

497
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: I think that we were just really lucky to have

498
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: the background that we have do not let it affect

499
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: us as much. And by that I mean like my

500
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: upbringing and our our tight relationship at the you know,

501
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: like nothing was going to be really affecting us the

502
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: way it wanted to. But we definitely have all these

503
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: stories and there's definitely something there.

504
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: Well, when this comes out, I'll have to like repost

505
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: your video in the Facebook group for anyone that didn't

506
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: see it before, because it's cool. It's cool, it's cool,

507
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's spooky. It's like something's going on. Hello, Samantha,

508
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: where are you.

509
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 5: I am in Paradise, Texas.

510
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: Oh Texas.

511
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: How do you?

512
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 5: Yes, very very Texas.

513
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: Yes, And how are you you doing? Okay?

514
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 5: I'm doing really good.

515
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 6: The weather here right now is like super stormy, super cloudy,

516
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 6: under we were under thunderstorm warning and possible tornadoes. So

517
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 6: if that's fuzzy about where I am in Texas, that's

518
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 6: the fun part of springtime here.

519
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: It's also perfect for some ghost stories. Right, So you

520
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: were telling me that you have been in tune with

521
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: ghosts since you were a kid. What do you mean

522
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: by that?

523
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 6: So I can I've been able to see I feel

524
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 6: like there's this little girl that's been with me since gosh,

525
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 6: maybe ten, maybe a little bit younger. I used to

526
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 6: talk to myself all the time, and my mom would

527
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 6: come in and be like, are you talking to myself?

528
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 5: Because you know, I thought I was cool at that point.

529
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 6: And so I think it was probably like six or

530
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 6: five when I started talking to myself, and as I

531
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 6: gotten older, there was.

532
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 5: Just I always felt like there was this little girl.

533
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 6: Just hanging out with me and kind of went with

534
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 6: me from house to house and yeah.

535
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: Should you have a name?

536
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 6: No, I don't have a name for her. I just

537
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 6: felt like she was just this little girl that just

538
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 6: kind of hung out with me, and she has my

539
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 6: best friend, yes, but she's also I think she was

540
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 6: mad that I have I have children. So yeah, there's

541
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 6: there's a story behind why I think she's mad on

542
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 6: that one. What. Yeah, so I had at the time,

543
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 6: I had a four year old daughter and a three

544
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 6: year old son, and this was you know, I hear

545
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 6: on your show about you know, sleep prowlesses and I

546
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 6: never I think I've experienced it once, but it was

547
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 6: never in this depth I was dreaming about. In this house.

548
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 6: It was a brand new house. It was our first

549
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 6: house as a married couple family. And I remember in

550
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 6: my dream standing at the bottom of the stairs and

551
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 6: this little girl in like a red dress with like

552
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 6: almost like a white like what.

553
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 5: Would you call those?

554
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 6: It was like an eighties dress like it was that

555
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 6: it had the red fur free sleeves and it had

556
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 6: like this white little like.

557
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 5: Apron thing panty hose. She was wearing some black shiny

558
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: shoes but no face.

559
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 6: And I just remember telling her in my dream, please

560
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 6: don't hurt my children. They've done nothing to you, and

561
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 6: she jolts into my son's room and in I'm like

562
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 6: subconsciously awake, but i cannot get out of my bed,

563
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 6: and I'm trying to reach for my husband, who is

564
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 6: literally right next to me, and I cannot feel him,

565
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 6: I can't touch him. But I'm in full panic mode

566
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 6: because I'm afraid this little girl's gonna hurt my children.

567
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 6: And so the next day or you know, I finally

568
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 6: get out of it, i'd go upstairs to check all

569
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 6: my kids, they're good. I went in hair school. So

570
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 6: this is about seven years ago, eight years ago, and

571
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 6: I go to school and it's been raining and and

572
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 6: my husband's supposed to go on a date night and

573
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 6: he was getting all of their stuff together. I'm on

574
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 6: my way home. I had to stop and pay the sitter,

575
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 6: and I left my phone in the car. Like he

576
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 6: knew what I was doing, so I didn't think anything

577
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 6: about it. Come back to fifteen missed phone calls from

578
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 6: him and.

579
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 5: He's like, where are you mind?

580
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: You?

581
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 5: He cursed in there, and I'm like, I told you

582
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 5: what I'm doing. I'm all my way home. What's going on?

583
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 6: He's like, Meredith fell out of the window. And I'm like, okay,

584
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 6: Like is she okay? I thought it was downstairs. We

585
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 6: had a second story house.

586
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: And is that your daughter?

587
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 5: Yes, my oldest daughter.

588
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my gosh.

589
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: She was four, so imagine you know she was. I

590
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 5: was like, okay, maybe she fell outside. He had the

591
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 5: window open, you know, downstairs, not a big deal.

592
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 6: And he was like see, he was like, Sam, it's

593
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 6: it was from the playroom. And the playroom was upstairs.

594
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 6: And the thing with our windows is it chimes when

595
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 6: you open it. The window was even heavy for me

596
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 6: to open, So how on earth my fe year old

597
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 6: got it opened? And no chime even like went off

598
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 6: in the house was completely beknownst to us. She fell

599
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 6: from the second story window, landed on her back, mild concussion.

600
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 6: We got home that night to just see if maybe

601
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 6: she climbed on something to maybe help her out, but

602
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 6: there was nothing there. There was no physical way for

603
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 6: her to open that window. And I told my husband

604
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 6: about it, and I said, you're gonna think I'm batshit crazy.

605
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 5: He was like too late, And I told him my

606
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 5: dream and he.

607
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 6: Was like, I go, I think she was pushed out

608
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 6: of that window because she never got into the window.

609
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 6: It was just the weirdest thing. And so, yeah, she

610
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 6: still doesn't. Like she's thirteen now, and she doesn't. She

611
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 6: remembers falling, but she doesn't remember the sequence of events

612
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 6: leading up to the fall.

613
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so scary and dangerous.

614
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so we they have like we went to

615
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 6: home depot the next day and bought these window locks

616
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 6: that will only let your window open like two inches.

617
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 6: So we put them on every window upstairs and was like,

618
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 6: there's we're not letting us happen again, and there.

619
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 5: Was just Yeah, that was probably the first.

620
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 6: That's when I realized that she was like she was

621
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 6: jealous that I had kids, and.

622
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 5: She was Yeah, it was.

623
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 6: It was one of those moments where I'm like, she's

624
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 6: just out to her my babies, No, we to go bye.

625
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: What happened to her?

626
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: Was it?

627
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: Like did she keep doing anything?

628
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: Like?

629
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 6: I don't I don't remember ever seeing her now in

630
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 6: my in the second house that we purchased, it was

631
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 6: built in ninety seven, and.

632
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 5: I do recall seeing a little girl with curly hair.

633
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 6: Just bebopping into my room and she never came back out.

634
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 6: So I just kind of you turned and went to

635
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 6: go check on my kids make sure that they were okay,

636
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 6: and they were fine.

637
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it was a different little girl.

638
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 6: I do, because the one at the top of the

639
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 6: stairs had black hair, no face, and I think the

640
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 6: second one had blonde hair. What's curly? It was blonde

641
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 6: curly almost like Shirley is it Shirley Temple? Okay, yeah,

642
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 6: it's kind of like how her hair kind of wringleed

643
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 6: it around.

644
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, oh my god, Okay, what can you tell

645
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: me that hairstyling story like once you were at work Ross.

646
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 5: It still gives me chills.

647
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 6: It was so I don't I okay, So it's hard

648
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 6: to I mean picture this obviously. So I when you

649
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 6: first walk into the hair stillon, there's a when you

650
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 6: there's a good door, it's got glass on it and

651
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 6: you can see when people are driving through, when people

652
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 6: are walking up. And then there's three stage that come

653
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 6: in that you have to kind of come up to

654
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 6: get to my station. And it was me and my client.

655
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 6: I'm coloring her hair and we're just kind of, you know,

656
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 6: behind the chair talk and the owner was behind a

657
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 6: wall where she couldn't see anybody coming up, so you'd

658
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 6: have to come up the stairs go around the corner

659
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 6: to see the owner and her client, and the other

660
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 6: stylist was gone for the day.

661
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 5: So I am blow, you know.

662
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 6: We get back to my chair and I'm blow drying

663
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 6: her hair, and I keep seeing out of the left

664
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 6: side of my on the left side this what looks

665
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 6: like cars pulling in, but nobody's coming up to the door.

666
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 6: And it's about five o'clock, between five and five thirty

667
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 6: fall here in Texas, like it's still kind of daylight outside.

668
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 6: Maybe you know, it was still kind of sunny outside,

669
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 6: and I just happened to it was probably like by

670
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 6: the fourth time. I'm like, oh my gosh, Like if

671
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 6: somebody's here, they just need to come in already, Like

672
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 6: this is ridiculous. And I blow dry and still, and

673
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 6: I look to my left and I see this woman

674
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 6: who's probably I mean, she's an adult, and she's got

675
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 6: long black hair, she's got all its color skin. She's

676
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 6: wearing a plaid T shirt that's like three fourths of

677
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 6: the way no face, and she is climbing up the

678
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 6: stairs and when she climbs up the stairs, she lunges.

679
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 6: I'm getting chills, like literally just chills thinking about it.

680
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 6: She lunges at me. I jump back and I have

681
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 6: to stop the blow dryer. And my client looks up

682
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 6: at me and she's like, are you okay? And I'm

683
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 6: like no, I couldn't speak. She's like, Sam, you look

684
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 6: so pale right now. Mind you, I'm Mexican. I've got

685
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 6: a lot of color. And I lost it all in

686
00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 6: that moment. Every hair follicle on my body was standing

687
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 6: at attention. I could not get the words like what

688
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 6: just happened out?

689
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 5: All I could feel.

690
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 6: When she did, it was like she was scared, sad,

691
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 6: all those like really odd emotions of like, and she

692
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 6: just went through me and I just I had to stop.

693
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 6: I had to go away for just like a second.

694
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 6: I went to the garage and I told her, I'm like,

695
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 6: you just need to go. I don't know what you

696
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 6: want for me, but I can't help you, but you

697
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 6: need to leave.

698
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: When you said she was crawling up the stairs, what

699
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: do you mean like on all fours kind of thing.

700
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 6: Like like you know when the ring when you see

701
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 6: her kind of crawl out of the well.

702
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 5: That is what she did.

703
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 6: And it was and I knew it was a female,

704
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 6: and I could there's just no face. You could just

705
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 6: see that she was she had, you know, I could

706
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 6: see her skin color. I could tell she was wearing

707
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 6: a plaid shirt. Her hair was black and long, no face,

708
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 6: and she just lunged at me.

709
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: Do you think she wanted a haircut or a color?

710
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: She needed one?

711
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 6: She looked like she had a couple of split ins

712
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 6: that needed to be trimmed. But I don't know if

713
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 6: she would pay me in monopoly money or coin bit,

714
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 6: I don't know money.

715
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: Wow, So did that building have any history of that

716
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: kind of stuff happening.

717
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 6: Well, I don't you know anybody who's ever come into

718
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 6: the salon. They're like, I always just feel really super

719
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 6: weird going to the bathroom. And it was once an

720
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 6: old house, and I always felt a presence of an

721
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 6: old man, like an elderly man, because there's two bathrooms.

722
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 6: One has a walk in shower and the other one

723
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 6: looks like it had been remodeled, but it had like

724
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 6: a handicapped bar in it, and there was a ramp

725
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 6: at the front of the salon, so people would be like,

726
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 6: when you go into the main bathroom, there was a

727
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 6: shower with like almost like the frosted glass, and people

728
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 6: would see the toilet's right there, and it's not a

729
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 6: shower curtain, so you couldn't just open it up make

730
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 6: sure nobody's in there. But people would sit on the

731
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 6: twin and be like, that is one creepy bathroom.

732
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: Oh yikes, I've been ghosted too. Hello, Ariel, how are

733
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: you hi?

734
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: I'm doing good.

735
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: How are you doing great? Where you located?

736
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm in Austin, Texas.

737
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: Cool. I was looking at your email and I wanted

738
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: to hear this story about when you brought a ghost.

739
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: You know, your friend brought a ghost to your house.

740
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so it's kind of a crazy one. It

741
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: It happened in college and I had my first apartment.

742
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 3: So she moved in a little bit after I did,

743
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: just because she needed a place to stay and I

744
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: had a whole living room she could stay in, you know.

745
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: So my apartment, the way that it was laid out

746
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: was like living room was like first thing you see,

747
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: and then to the right, and then there's like a

748
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: little hallway and there's like a U shape where it's

749
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: like my bed, my bedroom, and then like a vanity

750
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: kind of storagey area, and then that divides the bedroom

751
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: in the bathroom, so it's like, you know, you're kind

752
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 3: of walking in a circle when you go that way.

753
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: And a lot of the issues that we had were

754
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: in that little storage nook in the vanity, so it

755
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: was like in my room mostly, which is fun.

756
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: So when she moved in, she put all.

757
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: Over stoage all of her stuff in that storage closet

758
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: in the back of my room, and she a couple

759
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: of weeks after she moved in, she started to ask me, like, hey, uh,

760
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: are you opening the my storage area, Like the door.

761
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: Are you opening the closet door? And I'm like no,

762
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: obviously not, I have no reason to. And so she

763
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: would be like okay, and then that would happen a

764
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: couple times, and I'm like, okay, well, what's the deal

765
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: with this door, Like why keep opening on its own?

766
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: And so, like I investigated it and it was like

767
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: a sturdy, very old apartment kind of heavy door, so

768
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: it wasn't like budging on its own, and she she

769
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: would just be like, okay, whatever. It became kind of

770
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: a running joke in our apartment, just like, oh, the

771
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: ghost is opening.

772
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: The door, right, do you think that your friend was

773
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: secretly like I think Ariel's going through my ship?

774
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

775
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

776
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: I was really worried that that was a part of it.

777
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: It's like, I hope she's not messing with me, and

778
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 3: I hope she doesn't think I'm messing.

779
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: With her because that's not what's happening.

780
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, so okay, So during that whole like couple

781
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: of weeks of her like first getting into my place,

782
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: I while I was sleeping, I would like start to

783
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: hear like somebody whispering my name, which.

784
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: Is always really fun.

785
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably the worst kind of thing that could happen,

786
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: because it's like and it would be like right at

787
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 3: the beginning of my sleep, so I'd be really awake,

788
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: really like just laying down with my eyes closed, and

789
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 3: I started to hear whispering and at first I thought

790
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: it was her, and so I go and check on

791
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: her and be like, what's up, But she'd be like

792
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: honked out, like totally asleep.

793
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: Do you like someone like in your room? Like, could

794
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: you tell?

795
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 3: It sounded it sounded like somebody was like like that,

796
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just doing that gave me the heb gbs.

797
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, So it was really kind of a crazy moment.

798
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: So that happened almost every night, and to a point,

799
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 3: I'm like a brave Nancy, like I'm like, okay, I'll

800
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: just deal with it. But at a point where it's

801
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: like every day this is happening. Every day, I'm getting

802
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: whispery noises, somebody's calling for me in a very unwelcoming.

803
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: Kind of way.

804
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: And uh so she let me sleep in the living

805
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: room with her after like a week of this happening,

806
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: because it was like getting kind of overbearing, and uh

807
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: so she so she loved lets me do that for

808
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: a little while, and in the like two week three

809
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: week range of us meet like, poor her, I'm just

810
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: like in the living room winter but in that area.

811
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: Like so we're like hanging out one night and she's

812
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: like quite on her phone. I'm quite on my phone,

813
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: kind of just in the air in the living room

814
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 3: in the common space, and nobody's really saying anything. We're

815
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: just vibing, and all of a sudden, she, oh, no, sorry,

816
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 3: I hurt.

817
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: We both hear somebody turning a knob in the back.

818
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: Room and then the door opens on its own, like

819
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 3: you could hear all of the actions happening.

820
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's terrifying.

821
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: So she looks at me and I look at her

822
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: and we're like, don't really say anything, and we both

823
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: get up and leave the house and we're like after

824
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: we leave the apartment, it's like, okay, now we can

825
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: talk about this.

826
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: It's like, what did you hear? Well, I heard the

827
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 2: door opening. What did you hear? And I was like, oh,

828
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: same thing, buddy, And so we're like what do we do.

829
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 3: We're kind of making a plan, and we're both really

830
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: shaken up because it's kind of just being confirmed that

831
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: something creepy started happening, you know, and so so we're

832
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 3: both kind of like shaken up, kind of like nervous

833
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 3: and like what's happening? And then I feel really bad

834
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: because in the middle of this, some guys like walk

835
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: into his car and I just barely see him, and

836
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: he's like, I scream bloody murder at this poor man,

837
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: like because I'm like so afraid of like my own home.

838
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 3: And then I just like I'm making like bold eye

839
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: contact with him and uh and he just like is like,

840
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: what is happening?

841
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: Why are you screaming at me?

842
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 3: And I like, I apologize and I was like, oh

843
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 3: my god, I'm so sorry. We're dealing with a haunting

844
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: and our apartment. And he literally looked at me like,

845
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: oh my god, f that. And then he just I

846
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: watched him get in his car and drive away, and

847
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 3: I was like, man, ah.

848
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: Big mood. I wish I could do that. Oh my gosh,

849
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 2: it was. It was really scary. But that's not even

850
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: that's like the beginning of what happened.

851
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 3: So so so we make a plan to like, Okay,

852
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: if that door is open, we need to not sleep

853
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: here night and we'll deal with this later.

854
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 2: So we go in there and it's open. The door's open,

855
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: and so we're both kind of like all right, so

856
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: we're just gonna get.

857
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: Some blankets and then leave. And we stayed somewhere else

858
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 3: and then when we came back, we came back with

859
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: some what is it called stage and we like smudged

860
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: the apartment, and then we brought in our friend who's

861
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 3: like kind of woo woo and was like, all right,

862
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: well this is still.

863
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: Bad vibes, and she brought her dog and her dog.

864
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: Would like walk around the apartment and like not really

865
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: want to go into the closet at all, like not

866
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: even wont to go near it. And we're like, all right,

867
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: well that's probably a great sign that this is still

868
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: like a creepy place, you know, And so we h well, okay.

869
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: So my roommate at the time, she was like, well,

870
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: howbout we make a Ouiji board? And we asked them

871
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: to leave, and I know, you know, but like as

872
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: like being Hispanic, me and our friend, we're both Hispanic,

873
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: so it's like we both know we're not we're not

874
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 3: gonna mess with that, Like we're not gonna make a

875
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: Ouiji board. We're not gonna just invite people, you know,

876
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: that we don't know into.

877
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: Our home, you know.

878
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: So she's like, Okay, I'll do it alone and then

879
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 3: when I'm done, I'll throw it in the dumpster.

880
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: How about that? And I was like, okay, cool, sounds good.

881
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: And so my friend and I were waiting in the

882
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: car for her to be done, and she does the

883
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 3: Oiga board in my room on my bed, which is

884
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 3: I didn't agree to that, but you know whatever, I.

885
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: Guess it happened.

886
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: And so she when she's done, she walks over to

887
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 3: the dumpster throws it away, and as she's walking back,

888
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: our friend he's in the car with me, and he's

889
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: like freaking out.

890
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: He's like, wait, do you see that? Do you see

891
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: what's behind her? Look what's behind her? And so I'm like,

892
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? So I looked at her

893
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: as she's walking to us, and behind.

894
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: Her is like this big giant I don't even know

895
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: how to describe it, Like it's like a shadow was

896
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: standing straight up and it was taller than her, and

897
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, how like a backpack is.

898
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: It's like if a backpack were a person, where it

899
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 3: was like that close to.

900
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: Her oh my god.

901
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I saw that he saw it first, and

902
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: the fact that I saw it, like nobody was like

903
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 3: hallucinating or anything.

904
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 2: This is like a shared visual visual experience. I don't

905
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: even know. So we're both like freaking out. When she

906
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: gets back to us, we tell her what we saw, and.

907
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: She kind of was you let her get close to you.

908
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: I would have been like, stay there, don't come out further.

909
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: We're not friends anymore.

910
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

911
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: I you know, it's it's uh, that's what nineteen year

912
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: olds do, right, we just don't think clearly. But yeah,

913
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: so she where We told her what we saw, and

914
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 3: she started freaking.

915
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: Out, like, oh my god, what do you mean?

916
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: And then she kind of was like I kind of

917
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: felt that's kind of the vibe that I was getting,

918
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: was that you know, something was there, And I was like,

919
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: what do you mean? And she just like was like

920
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: something was like watching and I.

921
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: Was like, cool, cool, cool, cool cool cool?

922
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: So what yeah? But wait, so what happened to it?

923
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: Where did it go?

924
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: I don't Okay, So after that night, all that stuff

925
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: stopped really like I was still hearing whispering, but it

926
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: wasn't as bad.

927
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: Like I could actually fall asleep.

928
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: You know.

929
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 4: So uh.

930
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: But but the thing is that she got really distant

931
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: and like weird and like not, like didn't really want

932
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: to talk to me anymore, which, like I get that

933
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: because we just experienced trauma together. Yeah, so at the

934
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 3: time I didn't really understand. But now I'm like, oh, okay, yeah,

935
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: she's probably just upset about what happened in my apartment,

936
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: but maybe not, I don't know, maybe like something really

937
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: dark happened because she moved out like really really quickly

938
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: after that, like a couple of weeks after that. All

939
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: of her stuff was like she was like moving out slowly, so.

940
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: So this stuff didn't happen until she moved in. That's

941
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: when it started. So did you ever ask her, like

942
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: was this stuff happening with her or like before she

943
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: moved in, or like how how did how did she

944
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: bring it in?

945
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 5: Well?

946
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: She okay, so she sorry, it's kind of naive of

947
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: me now, but like she did tell me before that

948
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 3: she always felt like some kind of darkness followed her around.

949
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: But I always thought it was just depression or something, right,

950
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: you know, just like you know, as a fellow depressed person,

951
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I get that. It's all. It's all,

952
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: you know, rainbows until it's not right.

953
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 3: So but but now I'm like, now that i'm looking

954
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: at I'm like, well, maybe she meant like a dark

955
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: energy or like something kind of you know, sinister. But

956
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 3: like after she left, it was like my life, my apartment,

957
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 3: you know, like it was it was pretty okay. There

958
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 3: was like something after that she moved that happened that

959
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 3: At the time, I was like kind of trying to

960
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: do like the whole YouTube thing, like trying to be

961
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 3: like a young comedian in the business. And so uh,

962
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 3: I was like making bits and doing them and posting

963
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 3: them online just like as practice. And before she fully

964
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 3: moved out, I was alone in the apartment, but her

965
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: stuff was still there, and so like I was like

966
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: doing like making bad jokes, right, and then at the

967
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: end of one of my jokes, you hear somebody go

968
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: like a whispering what and uh nobody was in my

969
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 3: apartment And I was like, that's such a heckle. You go, yeah,

970
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: I have the footage and I relooked it over and

971
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 3: like I remember whenever I was editing that, whenever I

972
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 3: first heard that, like my heart sunk because I felt

973
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: like somebody was looming over me, like a very masculine,

974
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 3: kind of too tall type of thing.

975
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: It was so creepy.

976
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 3: But I re listened to it recently and I don't

977
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: feel that anymore. So I'm like, I'm guessing that when

978
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: her stuff left, that thing left so weird.

979
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

980
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: It's kind of a terrible moment in my apartment history.

981
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you want to hear an EVP?

982
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

983
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, let's do it. It's time for EVP or evase. Okay,

984
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: So I have one on YouTube from Tennessee Paranormal Research,

985
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: and this is a haunted house in Lynchburg, which I'm

986
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: guessing is in Tennessee. And you know how this goes.

987
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: I'll play this EVP and tell me what you hear

988
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 1: or what you think you're here or whatever. Okay, here

989
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: we go. Okay, now, sorry to bring up past trauma.

990
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: If this is too scary for you, no, because it

991
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: is a whisper.

992
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 2: Uh No, you're fine, Okay, I'm over it.

993
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. I don't know if you can

994
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: hear it, but I'll play it again. Did you hear it?

995
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's saying something, for sure. It sounds like it's

996
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: saying like, uh, like finish him or something like that.

997
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait, let plaga.

998
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: Maybe not that, but it sounds like something.

999
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let me give you some options. Is it

1000
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: A that's nasty? B I'm sassy. See I love a

1001
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: ghost just like I'm sassy. Uh see hide and Seek

1002
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: or d Duck Dynasty. All right, I'm gonna play it again.

1003
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 3: I hope it sounds sassy, but it kind of sounds

1004
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: like that's nasty.

1005
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they think. That's nasty. I'm gonna play

1006
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: against Oh nice, which I can hear. I wish there

1007
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: was more. They didn't post much. I have a feeling

1008
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: that they're like they didn't they didn't want to write

1009
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 1: what they were doing. That made the ghost go, that's nasty, right,

1010
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: like what grosst ghost? Yeah, Tennessee paranormal research. You've got

1011
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: some explaining to do. But that's nasty, according to the ghost.

1012
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,080
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