WEBVTT - Johnny Pemberton Disobeys Bridger 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:15.760 I invited you hear I thought, I made myself perfectly clear, 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:22.160 But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:28.880 to me empty, And I said, no guests, your presences 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:35.600 presence enough. I already had too much stuff, So how 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.400 did you dare to surbey mean? 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.080 I am not going to start the podcast until you 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:56.520 hear the reminder that we are having a live I said, 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.440 no gifts, the very first one at Dynasty type or 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:05.000 June twenty sixth at seven thirty pm. What else do 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.400 you need to know Los Angeles? I may have already 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.800 said that my mind is going. If you can't be 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.399 in Los Angeles that night, or if you just won't 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:18.360 be here, or you're in another state or you know, elsewhere, 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.880 and I just don't mean enough to you to travel, 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.120 you can buy the live stream that is also at 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:29.040 dynastytypewriter dot com, and you can watch it live online 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.039 as everything unfolds, or as far as I know, for 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.080 seven days after you can access the live stream. So 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.160 if you're I don't know, at a rave that Wednesday night, 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:43.080 you can watch the show the next day. It's going 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.319 to be a spectacle. This thing is going to be, 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.640 you know, a lot of surprises, a lot of learning, 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.600 and a lot of care. So I expect you to 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:54.920 be there. 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:55.200 You have. 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.080 We've given you every possible way to watch this thing. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:04.040 Be there. Now, let's have a podcast. Welcome to, I 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:09.040 said no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger. We are in the backyard. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:13.400 What's happening. It's garbage day. The truck has been by 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.000 so far for two cans. We still have one can 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:20.240 left to be picked up. I am just out of 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.720 touch with the person who's in charge of doing my taxes. 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.799 He will not answer my calls. His assistant won't answer 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:32.040 my calls. Bruce, Melissa, please, I'm I'm getting notices. I 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:33.919 need to get in touch with these people. And now 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.520 I feel like I'm in danger and that's really taking 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:41.120 a lot of my mental energy. So Bruce, Melissa, reach out. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.880 Let's get into the podcast. I adore, I adore. Today's 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:46.200 guest it's Johnny Pemberton. 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.920 Oh my god, I adore be here, Johnny. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:49.320 Welcome to. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.760 I said no gifts a lot. What would you call 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:52.679 this area here? 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.520 That's a great question. It's kind of a patio. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.200 Right, but I feel like it's beyond patio. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.919 I would say it's beneath patt. I feel like a 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.560 patio is kind of its own thing where you look 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:03.919 at it and say, that's a patio. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.320 Right, what is a terrorists? Terrorists has to overlook, right. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.160 Terrorists has to overlook something This kind of overlooks about 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.440 seven inches of concrete. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.919 Right, like sort of a potential skate ramp of sorts. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:17.239 Oh, that's not a bad idea. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.760 Have some teens up here tearing start filming skate video? 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.480 My god, that's my new. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.040 Life crisis is skate video filmer. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.040 I've become a director of skate videos. 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.200 Do you skate? I do not know. I feel like 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.160 you have a skating energy. I mean I appreciate that. 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:39.760 That's very nice. Uh, that's that's a huge compliment, an 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.120 attempt like, oh yeah, when I was much younger, I 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:43.520 did and I tried to do it, but I was 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.560 never that good at it. I did. I like the 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.240 whole idea of it, like to close a lot, like 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.240 the culture. The culture is very nice. Culture's cool, it's 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.720 very hip. It's very like, you know, you're sexy, but 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.400 you're disheveled, right. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:58.160 You don't care? 0:03:58.960 --> 0:03:59.160 Yeah. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.440 I feel like most skaters I knew growing up were 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:03.160 nice people. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.840 Yeah, I think so. I think it's like everything where 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.440 it can be. There's there's assholes in the bunch, for sure, 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.400 but I guess it's more like their assholes because they're 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.080 so cool, right, You're just so damn cool. They can 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:15.279 be dismissive. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.240 I'm trying to think of other like extreme sports that 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.159 have that are more likely to have assholes in the group. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.640 Surfing surfing interesting, that's a big thing. Actually, do you 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:25.920 know a lot of assholes surfers. 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.960 I've heard stories from friends who surf how like it's 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.600 very it's a real it's very clubby, very clicky here, 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.440 it's other California to where if you go to certain spots, 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.240 they'll be like, what the fuck are you doing here? 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:36.440 Bro? 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.159 Get the fuck off my wave. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.760 Yeah, that is not the energy I would expect from 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:41.599 surfing exactly. 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.560 That's why it's so cool. That's why it's so scary, 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.800 because it's like I thought everyone was like chilling with 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.160 the ocean, but they are. They are territorial as hell. 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:50.640 What are they territorial? 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:50.839 Like? 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.200 They just don't want you on their waves. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.920 Yeah, because there's not that you'd be surprised there's actually 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.800 not that many great breaks out there. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.400 Oh interesting, you're yourself now. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.240 Honestly, bro, I mean I would stick to skating because 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:05.800 there's not a lot of kill. There's not a lot 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.320 a killer breaks out there. Okay, for real, it's all 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:15.200 goddamn beach break out here, like Kurt said, right right kill? 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.600 Oh of course, of course have you ever served? 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.320 No? No, not a bodysurfing a couple of times, like 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:24.400 in North Carolina, but not like who is body surfing for? 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.280 I think it's for the vacationer. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.080 Right, like the dad with kids, like let's get out 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:30.920 and have a little fun. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.400 Or the dad who doesn't have doesn't want to buy 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.520 their kid a boogie board. What's a boogie board? Lookyboard 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.800 is like a like a board that you lay on 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.880 your chest with. It's sort of like surfing, but you 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.720 have you're writing it like a chest down on a 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.520 on a sort of a half size of a surfboard, 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.000 a little wider, usually made a foam. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.360 Okay, and wait, what was the other board we were 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:56.480 just talking about surfing, surfboard and skateboard. There was between 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.440 boogie board and surfboard. There was a board that I've 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.320 already forgotten the name of because we've talked about board. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.880 Some say body surfing. Body surfing that's just literally your body. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:05.360 Oh did you know that? 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.240 No, I was imagining a boogie board. 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.479 No, bodysurfing is you just you can literally surf with 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.120 your body if you get like these small waves. You know, 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:14.920 they're small, like you know, I don't know what size 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.400 they are, but they're not intimidating. But if you do 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.080 it right, you can kind of surf all using your 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.279 body as a board. So you're just kind of falling 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.640 down sort of, but you can ride the wave being 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.000 carried by the wave. Yeah, it works maybe a tenth 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.279 of time, but when it does, it's very exhilarating because 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.960 you're like, wow, I just got carried by this. 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.560 Water, right, That to me just feels like I'm out 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:37.120 of control. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.960 Well, I mean that's what it's all about. 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:40.200 Bro. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:42.960 Let go see. 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.560 When I was imagining like a tourist or whatever, is 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.719 imagining them stopping at like a local grocery store and 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.640 buying a boogie board, that was like, yeah, fourteen dollars 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:52.919 and then you kind of just have it push you 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:53.839 on to the shore. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.039 I think that's the idea because you want to get 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.600 some merch. Okay, you always want to have some merch 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.560 to buy in your location. I'm a merch guy. I 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.880 will buy for a merch guy. I fucking love merch. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.839 You're currently wearing homemade merch, and I got this merch. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.320 I like, yes, my first white hat of actually liked. 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.560 This is a gift. What does it say in theater? Okay, 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:16.200 they did did a show there and they gave me 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:16.640 some merch. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.080 I'm like, you know a good looking merch. 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.160 It's a golf it's I guess it's it's a hat. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:22.760 It's a golf hat if you wear golfing. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.400 Right, No, it's I think that's the shape of a 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:25.880 golf hat. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.119 Yeah. Also, white is always such a golf color. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.600 It's a real golf color. It's the color of like 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.000 it's pristine. You're doing something kind of nice. You're not 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.760 gonna get any mess on it, right, But you're wearing 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.200 a thin Lizzie shirt that you've made. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.360 Right. I made this years ago. I don't know why 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:44.400 were this old? This whole thing, this is really for me. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:45.520 This is this whole thing. 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:46.680 How old is it? 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:50.160 It's probably about, oh, maybe almost eight or nine years old. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.720 Did you trace that or is that a hand car 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:54.360 sort of. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.640 It's sort of a variation on their actual logo that 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.680 I made. I think I made it better because their 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.840 logo like currently, like the existing logo is different than this. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.600 It's more like the L and the L and the 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.200 Y are different shape really, So I just made it 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:10.760 longer because I. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.520 Want to see, because it to me just looks like 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.760 the thin Lizzie logo. It's that's really. 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.600 Close, but it's a little different because I made the 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.720 ending of the Y and the L longer, and I 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:25.000 think I made the H longer. I don't think it 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:25.800 looks better that. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.880 Okay, I'm looking on a Lisa is holding it up. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:29.320 I'm going to look at it for a minute and 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:30.000 then look over. 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.360 Yeah, see this doesn't match up over here. I thought 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.280 that looked interesting. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:39.280 Just he's not as long, right, So the casual observer 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:40.400 just thinks it's official. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.960 Yeah, I mean it's it's basically official, but it's it's 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.840 boot leg. It's slightly bootleg. Yeah, it's definitely boutleg. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.400 It's certainly I like a bootleg concert te I do too. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.240 Yeah, I like anything bootleg pretty much. 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.600 You make, don't you sell T shirts? 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.120 I do? Yeah, I don't do it as much right now, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.439 but I have. It's like a thing I I don't know, 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.880 I just like like to make. It all started because 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:02.880 I was making sure it's for myself and people were like, 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.680 where'd you get that? And like I made it? And 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.040 so because I started doing a hand drawn So the 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.720 first one I did was a it was the Pentagonial logo, 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.400 but it says Monsanto. And that was when I just 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.960 made for myself. And then I started printing them and 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:16.480 selling them. 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:17.680 Are you screen printing? 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:19.880 I do screenprint a bunch of them. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.240 Yeah, do you do you own like a Okay, go 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:24.040 to a facility. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.520 I got a guy in Long Beach, Oh does it. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.920 And the screenprints, it's the thing though always people do 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.160 these like digital prints, but they don't. They do not 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.439 look as good like if you get a screenprint. It's 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.040 so much. That's the that's the thing with merch is 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.720 so much merches. It's just not very good. There's much 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.400 I have, like a the colors have no weight to them, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.120 and it's just unfortunate because you have a cares design. 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.199 But yeah, yeah, I think in high school we got 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.679 to do a screenprint of design we could make and 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.240 there's like a I mean, there's just more texture. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:00.200 So yeah, so it's very it's like a tactile. It's 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.679 more like visceral kind of things. All these words. 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.599 I made this shirt, but it's not screen printed, and 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:06.920 as you can tell, it looks very cheap. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:08.199 It doesn't. It looks good though. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:09.840 It looks no no, no, no no. 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.079 Yeah, because sometimes you sh just have to age a bit. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:12.760 No this. 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.680 If this has been screen printed, this would have been dazzling. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.959 I guess you can see how the letters look digital. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.520 I wanted the letters to look digital, so that was 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:22.560 on purpose, right. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.160 Okay, but you know, I think if it were screen printed, 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.559 it would be a whole another bulking. 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:29.880 It will, but it's one color, so we would be 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.040 pretty cheap and easy to do. How much does that cost? 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:33.720 It depends on the how may you do? 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:35.800 Okay, that's always the problem. 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.560 This is an off air conversation. This is not enough. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.640 A lot of listeners are looking to screen print a 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:43.920 large amount of teas. 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:46.520 When I say off air, I mean I don't know, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.000 you don't know. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.760 No whatever. I like, every probably eight months I'm like, oh, 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.520 I want to screen printed shirt. Then you get online 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.400 and it's like you have to order nine. Yeah, minimum 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:01.319 twelve order And I'm not ordering myself twelve of the 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.480 same T shirt to store them, storing them. 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.920 And sizing too, because I when I will buy a 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.760 bunch to sell, I try to figure out what sizes 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.199 are people going to be wearing in this city or whatever, 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:13.439 And I'm always wrong. 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.679 Oh oh, I mean that's the age old problem. That's 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:21.199 clearance racks tell that tale, bided They're small. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.080 Everyone thing is small as big, right. 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.360 I feel like I if I go to the store 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.280 and I want to buy something on sale, they it's 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.080 always too big. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.840 Small things are rarely on the sale rack. That's true. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:34.160 I feel like. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.880 America does not care about the small man. 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.280 No, definitely not unless you get like extra small, which 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.400 you'll see or you'll see like basically it's like a 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.840 children's side, like a large child size. We're talking my size. 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.200 You can do a large child. I could. I'm probably 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:49.800 a large child. I used to do it, but I 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.640 think now I just can't handle the way it fits 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.240 on me. It's like I don't have the confidence or 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.000 the I want the comfort of a fitting, not like 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.040 the not being crushed. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.600 Although I will say a large child's shirt is a 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:09.559 different A large child's different shape of person than a 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:10.280 small man. 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.320 Sometimes it's better. It's like a boxier cut, much boxier. 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.240 That's such a big thing too, is the cut of 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.880 the shirt. Some shirts are just sort of like they 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.760 don't look nice. They have like a weird I don't know. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.439 I'm a real snob with that stuff. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.120 Although I feel like we're kind of in a boxy 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.840 shirt era. We are kind of people are liking a 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.480 boxy shirt, and as a small person, I just don't 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.720 feel like when I'm wearing a boxy shirt, it looks 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.200 like I'm wearing my older brother's shirt. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.440 What if you have a smaller because if it's not 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:38.680 too long, it would look. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:43.679 Nice and short boxy shirt. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.880 It's almost like a larger crop top and a. 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.000 Larger crop top. I don't know if I could get 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:48.960 into a crop. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.240 I don't know about that. I definitely can't do that. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.120 I mean, I think anyone can do a crop top 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.360 if it seems like they did it on purpose. Yeah, 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.120 if it seems like they're wearing a crop top by mistake, 0:12:58.200 --> 0:12:59.199 then people are wondering. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.319 I'm I'm just one hundred percent no, I cannot do 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.839 a crop top. I will not wear that. I don't 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.559 think anyone wants to. I just yeah, because it's like, 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.400 if you don't feel like good in it, you know, right, 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.120 and it's then I can't I can't do it. 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:13.679 Yeah, you just have to feel good in it. You 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.480 have like these train conductor paints. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.720 I guess that's what they are. Yeah, these are They 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:19.280 were sold to me as carpenter pants. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.960 Carpenter. No, these are better than carpenter paints. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:26.559 What they said they were an Italian carpenter, the Italian 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:28.560 carpenter who found some train conductor. 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.720 Yeah, oh no that no. I feel like this is 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.080 like a conductor. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.240 And engineer, so I think it is. I don't know 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.079 what engineers are wearing these days. I feel like we're 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.880 all disappointed by modern trade outfits. I bet you used 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.360 to be so colorful and specific, and now they're. 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.640 Just everybody used to look like they were from the 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.439 Richard Scary, illustratious, exactly, like they had their specific job. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.640 The chef had the hat, the train conductor was wearing 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:53.959 these pants and a hat. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.400 And now chefs are like, oh, they're just on drugs, 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.839 covered in tattoos, screaming, how do you know it's that 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.880 they're smoking. Are they smoking? Do they have hand tattoos? 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.800 It's a chef, and like, how do you know it's 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.360 a trade? So how do you know it's a brick layer? 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.840 Do they have tattoos? Are they did they go to prison? 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.160 That's a that's a brick layer. The only sign of 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:18.160 any trade. It's just tons of tattoos, like poorly done 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.200 tattoos that were done in like the fit of like 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.960 addiction recovery exactly. 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.200 I feel like a train conductor at this point would 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:27.600 probably wear an ill fitting polo. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:31.920 Yeah, like I'm once super stretched and they're kind of unwashed. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.360 Maybe do they even have a train conductor at this point? 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:35.160 Or is it a robot? 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.360 I mean it's gonna be a robot soon. I mean 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:39.640 I think they're getting close to it. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.880 That thing is just on a track. No offense to 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.800 the conductors, but yeah, that's. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.440 Probably the most offense that you can possibly say. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.360 I bet, like, how dear everyone keeps saying it's just 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:50.320 on a track, But. 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.400 We have to do so much. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.680 I guess they probably do have. I will hand it 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.680 to conductors. They probably can do other things. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.480 I bet it's so difficult. It's probably a nightmare. Actually, 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.320 it's all extremely stressed, so stressful. I've heard stories about 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.680 conductors who have hit a person, you know, because you 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.680 can't stop the train right and you know you're going 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.560 to kill this person, and so you have to live 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.160 with that. And that's like once you go back to work, 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.440 you are just that is on your mind. 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:23.880 Now you're just the murderer conductor. Yeah, when people get 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:28.800 hit by trains when it's not on purpose, I just. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.280 I don't know. I don't know what to say about 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.440 that anymore. You like, you think what to say about 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.240 how they it just don't be there. You should know, 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.560 you should know. It's just such a so nasty. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.080 I guess it's one of those things where it feels 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.960 so obvious that it wouldn't happen, that it probably you 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:50.760 take it for granted, and then. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.080 You get hit and then you're just you're gone. And 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.840 then you're gone. You've been smashed by a train. I 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:57.200 don't know. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.680 People are they play some funny games, play some funny game. 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:05.520 Yeah, don't go on the tracks. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:07.520 What have you been up to? 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.800 Oh, I don't know. I've been I was in Oklahoma 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.120 for like a month. Oh, I was in Oklahoma's working 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.080 on a pilot. Oh it was nice. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.440 Way Oklahoma kind of has a kind of a burgeoning 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:18.000 arts scene. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.400 It does, actually very much, so, especially Tulsa. I was 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:21.400 in Tulsa, Oklahoma. 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.360 They're kind of like trying to lure people there. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.960 Right, definitely are. They're doing a great job. Okay, It's 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.280 it's really fun there. It's for the size of the city, 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:34.960 it is exceptionally interesting and fun and diverse and very much. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.880 I find that, like any kind of you know, a 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.760 small place, a small town anywhere, especially in a place 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:44.600 you know in the southern area, people are wanting to 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.000 be like, hey, we're cool. Oh of course I want 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.680 to let you know that. Hey, the stuff you've heard 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.160 we I might sound like this, but look we do 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.320 not lack that guy you think we lack. 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.720 Okay, this is like I I think I know this 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:01.920 experience very well totally. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.480 I mean, I flick Salt Lake. There's a lot of 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.040 hipsters there. It's like. 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:10.000 You really have to work to differentiate yourself from the 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:10.840 prevailing culture. 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.440 We know something about people who live in Utah as 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:17.600 they like to work. It's like the Mormons took hipster 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.840 down and they took like how can I make the 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.520 whole idea of working hard put it into being hip 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.680 because all the hipsters I know, all the hippus hipsters 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.600 I know are from Utah, Is that true. I've met 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.120 a bunch of them there. I'm like you, you are 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:33.479 really going hard in this. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.280 That was part of the reason I needed to get out, 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:37.720 because I didn't want to have to work that hard 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:38.359 at being cool. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:38.840 Yeah. 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.200 I just felt like a lot of effort. The tattoos 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.080 you had to Mike do you had to be kind 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:45.640 of a pristine cool person. 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.200 I don't have that. It's like a certain style there. 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.840 Right, because you don't you want to let people know 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.240