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Speaker 1: to me empty, And I said, no guests, your presences

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Speaker 2: I am not going to start the podcast until you

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Speaker 2: hear the reminder that we are having a live I said,

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Speaker 2: no gifts, the very first one at Dynasty type or

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Speaker 2: June twenty sixth at seven thirty pm. What else do

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Speaker 2: you need to know Los Angeles? I may have already

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Speaker 2: said that my mind is going. If you can't be

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles that night, or if you just won't

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Speaker 2: and I just don't mean enough to you to travel,

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Speaker 2: you can buy the live stream that is also at

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Speaker 2: dynastytypewriter dot com, and you can watch it live online

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Speaker 2: as everything unfolds, or as far as I know, for

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Speaker 2: seven days after you can access the live stream. So

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Speaker 2: if you're I don't know, at a rave that Wednesday night,

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Speaker 2: you can watch the show the next day. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be a spectacle. This thing is going to be,

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Speaker 2: you know, a lot of surprises, a lot of learning,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of care. So I expect you to

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Speaker 2: be there.

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Speaker 1: You have.

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Speaker 2: We've given you every possible way to watch this thing.

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Speaker 2: Be there. Now, let's have a podcast. Welcome to, I

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Speaker 2: said no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger. We are in the backyard.

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Speaker 2: What's happening. It's garbage day. The truck has been by

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Speaker 2: so far for two cans. We still have one can

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Speaker 2: touch with the person who's in charge of doing my taxes.

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Speaker 2: He will not answer my calls. His assistant won't answer

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Speaker 2: my calls. Bruce, Melissa, please, I'm I'm getting notices. I

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in danger and that's really taking

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Speaker 2: a lot of my mental energy. So Bruce, Melissa, reach out.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into the podcast. I adore, I adore. Today's

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Speaker 2: guest it's Johnny Pemberton.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I adore be here, Johnny.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to.

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Speaker 3: I said no gifts a lot. What would you call

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Speaker 3: this area here?

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. It's kind of a patio.

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Speaker 3: Right, but I feel like it's beyond patio.

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Speaker 2: I would say it's beneath patt. I feel like a

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Speaker 3: Right, what is a terrorists? Terrorists has to overlook, right.

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Speaker 2: Terrorists has to overlook something This kind of overlooks about

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Speaker 3: Right, like sort of a potential skate ramp of sorts.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's not a bad idea.

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Speaker 3: Have some teens up here tearing start filming skate video?

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Speaker 2: My god, that's my new.

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Speaker 3: Life crisis is skate video filmer.

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Speaker 2: I've become a director of skate videos.

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Speaker 3: Do you skate? I do not know. I feel like

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Speaker 3: you have a skating energy. I mean I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: That's very nice. Uh, that's that's a huge compliment, an

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Speaker 3: attempt like, oh yeah, when I was much younger, I

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Speaker 3: whole idea of it, like to close a lot, like

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Speaker 3: the culture. The culture is very nice. Culture's cool, it's

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Speaker 3: very hip. It's very like, you know, you're sexy, but

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Speaker 2: You don't care?

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Speaker 2: I feel like most skaters I knew growing up were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think it's like everything where

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of other like extreme sports that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is not the energy I would expect from

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Speaker 3: That's why it's so cool. That's why it's so scary,

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Speaker 2: They just don't want you on their waves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's not that you'd be surprised there's actually

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Speaker 3: goddamn beach break out here, like Kurt said, right right kill?

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Speaker 2: Oh of course, of course have you ever served?

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Speaker 3: Or the dad who doesn't have doesn't want to buy

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Speaker 2: Okay, and wait, what was the other board we were

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Speaker 2: just talking about surfing, surfboard and skateboard. There was between

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Speaker 3: Some say body surfing. Body surfing that's just literally your body.

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Speaker 3: Oh did you know that?

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Speaker 2: No, I was imagining a boogie board.

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Speaker 3: No, bodysurfing is you just you can literally surf with

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Speaker 2: Water, right, That to me just feels like I'm out

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's what it's all about.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Let go see.

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Speaker 2: When I was imagining like a tourist or whatever, is

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Speaker 3: I think that's the idea because you want to get

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Speaker 3: some merch. Okay, you always want to have some merch

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Speaker 3: to buy in your location. I'm a merch guy. I

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Speaker 3: will buy for a merch guy. I fucking love merch.

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Speaker 2: You're currently wearing homemade merch, and I got this merch.

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Speaker 3: I like, yes, my first white hat of actually liked.

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Speaker 3: This is a gift. What does it say in theater? Okay,

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Speaker 3: they did did a show there and they gave me

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know a good looking merch.

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Speaker 3: It's a golf it's I guess it's it's a hat.

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Speaker 3: It's a golf hat if you wear golfing.

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Speaker 2: Right, No, it's I think that's the shape of a

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, white is always such a golf color.

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Speaker 2: It's a real golf color. It's the color of like

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Speaker 2: it's pristine. You're doing something kind of nice. You're not

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Speaker 2: gonna get any mess on it, right, But you're wearing

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Speaker 2: a thin Lizzie shirt that you've made.

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Speaker 3: Right. I made this years ago. I don't know why

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Speaker 3: This is this whole thing.

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Speaker 2: How old is it?

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Speaker 3: It's probably about, oh, maybe almost eight or nine years old.

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Speaker 2: Did you trace that or is that a hand car

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Speaker 3: It's sort of a variation on their actual logo that

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Speaker 2: Want to see, because it to me just looks like

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Speaker 2: the thin Lizzie logo. It's that's really.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm looking on a Lisa is holding it up.

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Speaker 2: Just he's not as long, right, So the casual observer

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's basically official, but it's it's

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Speaker 3: boot leg. It's slightly bootleg. Yeah, it's definitely boutleg.

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Speaker 2: It's certainly I like a bootleg concert te I do too.

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Speaker 2: You make, don't you sell T shirts?

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Speaker 3: I do? Yeah, I don't do it as much right now,

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Speaker 3: first one I did was a it was the Pentagonial logo,

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Speaker 3: but it says Monsanto. And that was when I just

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Speaker 2: Are you screen printing?

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Speaker 3: I do screenprint a bunch of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you do you own like a Okay, go

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Speaker 3: I got a guy in Long Beach, Oh does it.

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Speaker 3: And the screenprints, it's the thing though always people do

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Speaker 3: these like digital prints, but they don't. They do not

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Speaker 3: look as good like if you get a screenprint. It's

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Speaker 3: so much. That's the that's the thing with merch is

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Speaker 3: so much merches. It's just not very good. There's much

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Speaker 3: I have, like a the colors have no weight to them,

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Speaker 3: and it's just unfortunate because you have a cares design.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I think in high school we got

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Speaker 2: to do a screenprint of design we could make and

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Speaker 2: there's like a I mean, there's just more texture.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so it's very it's like a tactile. It's

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Speaker 2: I made this shirt, but it's not screen printed, and

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Speaker 3: This is an off air conversation. This is not enough.

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Speaker 3: And sizing too, because I when I will buy a

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Speaker 2: Although I will say a large child's shirt is a

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's better. It's like a boxier cut, much boxier.

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Speaker 2: Although I feel like we're kind of in a boxy

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Speaker 2: Nice and short boxy shirt.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like a larger crop top and a.

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Speaker 2: Larger crop top. I don't know if I could get

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I definitely can't do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just have to feel good in it. You

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Speaker 3: I guess that's what they are. Yeah, these are They

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Speaker 2: Carpenter. No, these are better than carpenter paints.

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Speaker 3: What they said they were an Italian carpenter, the Italian

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no that no. I feel like this is

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Speaker 3: And engineer, so I think it is. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Just everybody used to look like they were from the

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Speaker 2: The chef had the hat, the train conductor was wearing

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Speaker 3: And now chefs are like, oh, they're just on drugs,

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Speaker 3: It's a chef, and like, how do you know it's

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Speaker 3: Do they have tattoos? Are they did they go to prison?

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Speaker 2: I feel like a train conductor at this point would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm once super stretched and they're kind of unwashed.

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Speaker 2: Maybe do they even have a train conductor at this point?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's gonna be a robot soon. I mean

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Speaker 2: That thing is just on a track. No offense to

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Speaker 3: Probably the most offense that you can possibly say.

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Speaker 4: I bet, like, how dear everyone keeps saying it's just

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Speaker 3: We have to do so much.

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Speaker 2: I guess they probably do have. I will hand it

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Speaker 3: I bet it's so difficult. It's probably a nightmare. Actually,

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Speaker 3: with that. And that's like once you go back to work,

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Speaker 2: Now you're just the murderer conductor. Yeah, when people get

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what to say about

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Speaker 3: how they it just don't be there. You should know,

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Speaker 3: you should know. It's just such a so nasty.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's one of those things where it feels

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Speaker 3: You get hit and then you're just you're gone. And

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Speaker 3: then you're gone. You've been smashed by a train. I

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Speaker 2: People are they play some funny games, play some funny game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't go on the tracks.

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Speaker 2: What have you been up to?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. I've been I was in Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: for like a month. Oh, I was in Oklahoma's working

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Speaker 2: Way Oklahoma kind of has a kind of a burgeoning

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Speaker 3: It does, actually very much, so, especially Tulsa. I was

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Speaker 2: They're kind of like trying to lure people there.

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Speaker 3: Right, definitely are. They're doing a great job. Okay, It's

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Speaker 3: I find that, like any kind of you know, a

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Speaker 3: we I might sound like this, but look we do

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is like I I think I know this

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Speaker 3: I mean, I flick Salt Lake. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: You really have to work to differentiate yourself from the

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Speaker 3: We know something about people who live in Utah as

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Speaker 2: That was part of the reason I needed to get out,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just felt like a lot of effort. The tattoos

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Speaker 3: I don't have that. It's like a certain style there.

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Speaker 2: Right, because you don't you want to let people know

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Speaker 2: I'm not part of this other thing. Yeah, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: called Kilby Block Party. It's like the music festival. Now, Wow,

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Speaker 2: it's bizarre. I would have never had a million Niggers expected.

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Speaker 3: That because the Mormons really into singing, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it a thing Mormons loved to sing. They love

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Speaker 2: I can't sing, really, I'm not. I'm an ex Mormon.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of Mormons love to sing. They love

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, they're they're great singers too. It's like

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Speaker 2: Right, It's just kind of there and everybody does it.

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Speaker 3: Born to harmonize.

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Speaker 2: Did you you're from the Midwest, Yeah, I grew up.

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Speaker 2: There were there any Mormons around you?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I didn't know about I really

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Speaker 3: Manner of Heaven. Of course, my god, that's a wild idea.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember any the I mean, there are some

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Speaker 2: But there's that thing about the dream mind. Do you

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Speaker 2: remember this. The Mormons that have this mine, well, they're

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Speaker 3: Right, it's very different. But they have a.

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Speaker 2: Mine in south of Salt Lake City, called the dream Mine,

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Speaker 3: I don't remember that part, but that's a tracks. I

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Speaker 2: But I imagine they're the type of people that like

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Speaker 2: I'm I guess I could be converted.

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Speaker 3: Don't poke around what you're doing. What you're doing right here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you end up getting chased by like a pickup.

441
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 2: There's somebody in the back with a rifle or multiple pickups.

442
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 3: Oh my god, attack and you have to have dinner

443
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 3: with them? You have to have dinner?

444
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,440
Speaker 2: Is that before You've been down?

445
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 3: And chase you down to invite you. If you refuse

446
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 3: our hospitality, you will be dealt with force. Force will

447
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 3: be dealt upon you if you refuse our our long

448
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 3: descended dinner phone with a game night following, I sing

449
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 3: along Game night to follow. You choose to quiplash for hours,

450
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna take six hours. We'll release you afterwards. But

451
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 3: if you can't make the time for that, you can't

452
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 3: make the time for your life.

453
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:28,679
Speaker 4: Uh.

454
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 2: Can I ask your opinion on quiplash?

455
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 3: I don't know that game like this thing? I hate it?

456
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 3: Aren't they all the same? At some point? It's like

457
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 3: balder dash or categorizing scattergories is trivia?

458
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: Maybe, Okay, quiplashes.

459
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 3: Kind of came up with the pandemic. I think, oh, right,

460
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 3: is it the one on your phone?

461
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 2: You're shohn your computer and your phone and you have

462
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 2: to make like right, they're like funny prompts, and that's

463
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 2: the problem for me. Yeah, where it's just agonizing and

464
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 2: it's uh, I get pulled into this thing and I'm

465
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 2: just in pain the entire game.

466
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always end up doing stuff where it's like, Okay,

467
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 3: how can I make fun of this game in the

468
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,479
Speaker 3: process while still technically playing it, like say the worst

469
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 3: thing or just say like something that is Yeah, I

470
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: just always want I always want to make fun of

471
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 3: the thing I'm doing as I'm doing it.

472
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 2: Obviously, just have a problem with intimacy. You aren't able

473
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: to be intimate with your game partners.

474
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 3: That's probably it. There we go. Yeah, I think that's

475
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 3: my problem, and just the game, the fact that they

476
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 3: tell you what to do, or when people get rewarded

477
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 3: for being funny who they are not funny? That's a

478
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 3: good problem. Absolutely, so I just refuse to participate.

479
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: But sometimes you show up at somebody's house and they

480
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 2: announce that that's what they're doing.

481
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 3: Oh nope, not me. I don't show up to many

482
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 3: things that have those type of things going on.

483
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: Are you a very social person?

484
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. I like to be, but I think

485
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: in yeah, I guess so. I don't know. It's changed

486
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 3: the years. I guess. I just like to socialize. I

487
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: guess I'm not super social, but I like to with

488
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: certain people. You're selective. Yeah, I have a lot of

489
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 3: friends who I know from I went to college with,

490
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 3: and it's and we have like such a shorthand, so

491
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 3: we hang out a lot because it's you know, they

492
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: don't work in the industry, so that's my favorite thing.

493
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 3: If they work, and it's like a different, a wholly

494
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: different thing, and so right, yeah, right, right, yeah.

495
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: People from high school and college, when you get to

496
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: talk to them compared to anybody else in your life,

497
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: it's just so much more fun.

498
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: Right.

499
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 2: A friend just moved for that I've known since kindergarten.

500
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 2: Anytime I talk to him, it's just like, oh, this

501
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 2: is joy, this is pure joy. Because we just know

502
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: every like for this. Yeah, we speak the same language

503
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 2: exactly and we don't have to worry about all the

504
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: other nonsense. Right, do you host parties do anything like that?

505
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: I like to host outdoor parties. Outdoor I do like

506
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 3: to do. I like to cook for people. Oh right, right,

507
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: I really enjoy that. Are you at the grill? I was,

508
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 3: sometimes we'll do a crawfish boil. Actually, yeah, is that

509
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: something you grew up doing or a little bit. My

510
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: mom was from Louisiana, so I grew up eating that

511
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: was like my favorite food as a kid was food

512
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: from New Orleans. And I remember the first time I

513
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 3: went to a crawfish boil was like the first year

514
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: I moved here. There was a friend of my one

515
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 3: of my friends had a friend who lived in Venice

516
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 3: at this little house in Venice and they he was

517
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 3: in from Louisiana and he had a crawfish bowl and

518
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: I went there. I was like, this is the most

519
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: It's so fun. It's so much fun. And the taste

520
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: is like this very unique taste you can't get otherwise,

521
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 3: not just the crawfish themselves, but like you have the corn,

522
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: the potatoes in there and all the other stuff. It's

523
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: and a taste. It's like this unique blend of lemoni, pepper, vinegar.

524
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 3: Oh it's so it's so fragrant too, because all the

525
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: spices you put in there. It's just such a fun

526
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: I don't know something about it. It's like a fun

527
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: drinking daytime event that I was like, I want to do.

528
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: This is the crawfish like closest to cray that.

529
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 3: I would say, it's close. It's like a miniature lobster okay, yeah,

530
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 3: or it's not a shrimp maybe, but it's less it

531
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: has less taste to it. Also, you're putting so much

532
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: spices in it. I mean, the thing that no one

533
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: ever talks about is that, uh, crawfish is poverty food.

534
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: It's the same as like all these dishes now that

535
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: are so popular, and it's like, oh, this is this

536
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: is the cheapest thing you could get, right. You would

537
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: catch this in a lake. You catch it for free,

538
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 3: like in a stream or a lake, and then you

539
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 3: put tons of spices in there because it's like you

540
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: have to make it taste good, right, and yeah, you

541
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 3: do it as cheaply as you possibly can't.

542
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: Where do you buy crawfish? Do you go to the

543
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: grocery store you.

544
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: Have getting shifting them shipped in? It comes it becomes luxury,

545
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 3: exactly the total opposite. If I do it here, I

546
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: have to spend like hundreds of dollars to have it

547
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: air fraid in because they have to ship them live.

548
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: Oh but yeah, because they'll rot or wow. So you

549
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: just get a crate full of live bugs.

550
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 3: Like eighty pounds of them, wow, and I'll boil them

551
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 3: up and serve them and stuff and it's it's fun.

552
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: Eighty pounds of crawfish? Is that hundreds of crawfish?

553
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: I think it's probably, uh, it's probably like a couple

554
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 3: of hundred crawfish. Wow. I'm not trying to think, because

555
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of meat on these guys.

556
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: You know, do they scream when you boil them?

557
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 3: They do not know? Okay, I do not.

558
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: Because loves are screamed, don't they They do?

559
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: But isn't that just the steam escaping their shells?

560
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: That's I hope that's true. Actually, I hope that I heard.

561
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: I think it was. Yeah. And also crawfish there basically

562
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: are bugs, you know, these are they are the lowest,

563
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: they're very a very low life form. I like them

564
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: a lot, but I just I don't feel it's not

565
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: the same as mammal, right what we should be eating.

566
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: Probably it's just these circs of crawfish, yeah, because they

567
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: have a lot of good stuff in them.

568
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: Do you ever watch alone?

569
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: I have watched it. I've watched pretty much almost survival shows.

570
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: I've watched a little bit of them.

571
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: Okay, we've been watching it again recently.

572
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: Do you go through Naked and Afraid or No? I don't.

573
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: When I hear that name, I think it's cheap. That's

574
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,239
Speaker 3: got to be cheap, right, it's cheap. It's so like

575
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 3: so like, I mean, I like negga Afraid because it's

576
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: so tacky. It's just like they invented your PSR. Like

577
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 3: what this is all just invented? Are your primitive Survival

578
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 3: Rating to give to you? It's everything is constructed, there's nothing,

579
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 3: you know, it's all this thing where because I do

580
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: a lot of backpacking and stuff, and there's so much

581
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 3: things on those shows where they drum up the danger

582
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: it's so dangerous and really it's not that dangerous at all.

583
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: Alone though, Does that feel legitimate? I think that's more

584
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 3: much molegitimate yeah, I.

585
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: Mean they're eating mice, eating mice constantly.

586
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: The thing to me is just the literally being alone aspect.

587
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 2: People lose their minds.

588
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to do anything like that alone ever.

589
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: Can you The one I'm watching now, they're in Mongolia.

590
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: You're just alone for seventy days, mice crawling all over you,

591
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: just no one to talk to, although they get to

592
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: talk to somebody once a week. That's what they don't

593
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: tell you. I don't know what it's like a I

594
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: think it's called like redemption. It's people who have failed before.

595
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 3: That's the only thing about these shows. There's a whole

596
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: new class of people who have like you that you know,

597
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 3: not the Bachelor. When you watch those people there, they

598
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: have made a lifestyle around being contestants on these shows.

599
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 3: They haven't.

600
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 2: That's their talent and there's lingo.

601
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 3: Yes, they have shorthand, and that's what's happened with these shows. Now,

602
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: there's so many survival shows where people have like a shorthand.

603
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you watch the first season of Alone compared to now,

604
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 2: it's a completely different Like the people have obviously watched

605
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: the show and I've learned to actually build structures and stuff.

606
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: The first season, they're like just wrapped up in a tarp,

607
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 2: and now they're in log cabins. They're like literally using

608
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: like Lincoln logs to build cabins.

609
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: I gotta watch that one. You don't have to watch it.

610
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: I mean this season in particular, every episode someone is

611
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: eating a mouse. You see them gutting the mouse. It's disgusting.

612
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: A mouse is just the worst thing to eat.

613
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: I think once you've eaten the mouse, you've lost. Yeah,

614
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: no amount of money will ever make up for the

615
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: fact that you eat a mouse to try to survive

616
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: on a reality show. Just go home.

617
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 3: I don't know, it doesn't make any sense. I really

618
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: like a tiny snake than a mouse.

619
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I would absolutely.

620
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: I've eaten snake before. I think I have a snake

621
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 3: sausage one.

622
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, which is everybody takes a sausage. I

623
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: would probably eat a mouse sausage to be honest.

624
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: Mouse just the thought of it. I don't know something

625
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 3: about that. I would not. I would not eat a

626
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: mouse sausage. Definitely wouldn't.

627
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: I mean I can't imagine, I mean, the amount of

628
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: mice that would happen. I apologize to a listener. You'd

629
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: rather eat a rat.

630
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: Than a mouse. Why Because rats bigger. So it's like

631
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: the meat is further away from the things you don't

632
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: want to eat. There's something about the size of an

633
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: animal where I feel like there's like a separation between

634
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: right edible and edible. There's more physical distance. That's what

635
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: gets me, because there's no way unless you're doing the

636
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: mouse out, and when you're alone, you've got the time

637
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: to really separate the stuff. I couldn't run into this

638
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: bathroom right now.

639
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: I imagine people are eating things when they listen to

640
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: a podcast frequently. Yeah, there should be some sort of warning,

641
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: but unfortunately not this episode. They'll probably just stop listening

642
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: to the podcast altogether now, and we've lost hundreds of listeners.

643
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: All these gen zs. They want warnings, they want oh

644
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: spoil they're warning.

645
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: They want eating warning.

646
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 4: Oh there's gonna be some flashes, gen Z look out.

647
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 4: Oh you got epilepsy, don't go to the movies. Stay home,

648
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: it's my tim Allen ran Hey, stay home, just die.

649
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: Just you know what, You better get busy living or

650
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: get busy dying.

651
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think we should talk about something else. For

652
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: something else we do need to talk about. I was

653
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: really excited to have you here today.

654
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: I was excited to be here.

655
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: I thought we'd have a nice time. I loved Johnny.

656
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: What could possibly go wrong? So it's a little surprised,

657
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: you know. Of course the podcast is called I said

658
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: no Gifts.

659
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: I was kind of told that late oh late in

660
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: the game.

661
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't at least call you on the way over.

662
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: My reps try to get a hold of me, and

663
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: I just have you know, I have a no. I

664
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: only answered the phone on odd minutes, So it's just

665
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: like a thing I have.

666
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well that explains then why we've kind of

667
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: got this gift here, this massive item.

668
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, should I open it? Here on the kind of

669
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: already opened?

670
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: It is out of the bag. I don't know what

671
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: it is. Well, oh okay, now that I'm looking at

672
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: the label, I know what it is. And this is

673
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: actually a great thing to own. It's a folding hand truck.

674
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: Well, like all gifts I give, I like to give

675
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: something that I own myself, and I have one of these,

676
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: and it has been indispensable in my life and sense

677
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: where I cannot believe how much I've used this for

678
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: how much I paid for it. What are you using

679
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: your hand truck for well, I was gonna gift you

680
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: a landscaping rock, but I just realized I didn't have

681
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: them the effort to move it today. What is a

682
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: landscaping rock. It's a rock that you use for landscaping.

683
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: It's like a rock that you you know, like a

684
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: sort of you would put maybe over there by that

685
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: grass to create a little bit of a different feel.

686
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: Oh so it's like a piece of It's not a

687
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: like a primitive tool.

688
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: No, like a big rock. It's just a mess a

689
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: large stone that has an interesting shape that you can use.

690
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: Do you have a rock sling around your yard?

691
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: I have a bunch of them, Yeah, I take I

692
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: have like two of them. I was gonna I keep

693
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: wanting to get some bigger ones, but the ones I

694
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: have we're as big as I can physically move myself.

695
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: I think any like a forklift to get one I

696
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: really want. Where did you get them? I got them

697
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: from a city park. They're still yeah, they're stolen, but

698
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: I mean they were at the They were behind like

699
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: a k rail. So no, I was looking at him.

700
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, how did you get them out of

701
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: the park?

702
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: He just picked it up. I picked it up, watched

703
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: it way, and I put it in the trunk and

704
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: I took it home. It was, you know, a great

705
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: physical effort that I expended to do this.

706
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: Did anyone see you on your way out?

707
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: You know, I don't care what am gonna do. Call

708
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: the police, tell him like a like a guy just

709
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 3: stole a rock. Cops are go and be like, Okay,

710
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: we have a woman who just died at McDonald's. You

711
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: want us to go deal with this guy who stole

712
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: a rock. So I feel like that's the lot of

713
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: stuff I'll do that. I feel like, if I think

714
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: about it, if someone calls the cops, the cops are

715
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: going to laugh.

716
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are, I mean a decent amount of low

717
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 2: level crimes, right, But I think within a city like

718
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, there are just other things going on.

719
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: Oh so is that a crime?

720
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: Taking a rock?

721
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 3: If you were a police officer, I would say, I'm sorry, officer,

722
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: I didn't see any sign that said I couldn't take

723
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: this boulder.

724
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: That's true, that's very true, and then asked to go

725
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: through the courts system the amount of money being spent

726
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: to decide whether or not you are a criminal.

727
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: Right, I'm a taxpayer.

728
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: The jury selection for that court case fascinating. Oh man, okay,

729
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: so you've taken two rocks?

730
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you?

731
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: And so you'll just be walking through a parking and

732
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: say that looks like a nice rock.

733
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: Well, I kind of hike like a like a hiking spot.

734
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: There's a lot of work then, well, usually at where

735
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: the cars are parked kind of Oh sure, so they're

736
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: part of a parking lot. Yeah, I'm not carrying it

737
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: like that far, but I did have to haft it

738
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: over a Jersey barrier. Okay, what you know, like a

739
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: k rail? You know that is concrete k rail? Oh

740
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: a k rail?

741
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, so it's just oh the thing that's like

742
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: there to stop you from driving over an edge or whatever.

743
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, those big concrete wall things. That's where it was.

744
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: I think it was for erosion or something. But the

745
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: rock itself was just kind of haphazardly there, and I thought, like,

746
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: you know, I'd like to acquire this, and that's you know,

747
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: you have a hand truck, I mean the hand truck,

748
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: this one. I use it for gardening a lot, for everything,

749
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: and the fact that it folds up is just really convenient.

750
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: Right, pop it in the car. Then take it wherever

751
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: you needed to pick things up, move that rock. So

752
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: are you taking it with you places to get things

753
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: or you're just keeping it at home for when you

754
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: bring back back a big bag of soil.

755
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: I've done both. Yeah, I definitely have used it to

756
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: bring stuff down the driveway. It's really heavy.

757
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: When did you buy it? Was it for a specific

758
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: reason or did you just think I might need this

759
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 2: in the future.

760
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: I have a lot of crap. I have a lot

761
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: of like tools and stuff and shovels and picks and

762
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: just all kinds of a lot of like stuff. Right,

763
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: So I got that when I first we first moved

764
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: into our house, and I was like, I need this

765
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: for for moving stuff, you know, for like moving heavy things,

766
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: because it's a real it's a real backsaver.

767
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: It is a you do a lot of gardening, yeah,

768
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: like a recent development in your life or.

769
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 3: No, I'm done it for like a long time. It's

770
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: like almost I would say, an obsession. Really, Oh yeah,

771
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: I was like for a while I was almost unhealthily

772
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: obsessed with it, Like it was this thing where I

773
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: was just ruled my thought all the time. What did

774
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: that lead to?

775
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: Just a beautiful garden outstanding garden.

776
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, outstanding I had. I had two plots and then

777
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: some I used to live in Frogtown years ago, and

778
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 3: there was a community garden that opened up basically right

779
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: after we moved in, right across the street, and I

780
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 3: was just there every day. I was Yeah, I just

781
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: loved it. And I was like, go, I'll go nuts

782
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 3: in there and right, growing as much as I possibly

783
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: could produce. Yeah. I like to grow vegetables, Okay, I

784
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: had to grow many vegetables. I mean I have like

785
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: anytime I go to someone's house, I'm like, you got

786
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: you got an empty space there?

787
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: I have this little over here like a vegetable garden

788
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: that I write it's an absolute message.

789
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 3: Behind that wall.

790
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: See that little like concrete thing with the plants on

791
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: top of it. Beneath there is a bunch of soil.

792
00:35:59,280 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: Okay.

793
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the people who built this house planted mint in there, right,

794
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: and mint is literally impossible to remove.

795
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you can get rid of it.

796
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: I've tried, really, and I think I always miss one

797
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: strand and then it repopulates the entire thing.

798
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: That's interesting, Yeah, because especially in that area, because it's

799
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: probably dormant underneath the sidewalk area there because it's like

800
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: rhizomal so it's just going to be just the side

801
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 3: shot roots, right, it's uh yeah.

802
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: So I'll plant something in there and then it just

803
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: gets overtaken by mint. I mean there's mint popping out

804
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: of that.

805
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: I can see it.

806
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: I loved, obviously love the smell of mint.

807
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 3: It's wonderful, but it's it's very aggressive. You might be

808
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 3: able to get rid of it in the fall because

809
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: it will start to die back. Uh And I mean

810
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: it needs a lot of water. If you stop watering

811
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 3: that area for a while in the fall, you might

812
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: be able to get rid of it. Because you don't you

813
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: have those trees that rosemary doesn't need much water. That

814
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: tree isn't eat me water at all. I mean, I

815
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: could do a full consult if you like. But that's

816
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: that's a different thing you're talking about. Like lighting is

817
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: a big issue with the gardening. That's that's such a

818
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: big deal, right, and seasonal planting and people I don't

819
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: I only recently learned about some stuff to where you

820
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: just if you plant something in the wrong time, there's

821
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 3: no point in even trying. It just doesn't send a chance. Yeah,

822
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: And there's also the other way around, where you plant

823
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: something at the right time, you just can't kill it.

824
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: Like what mint. Mint is definitely one thing I would

825
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: say that, like certain I don't know what's something that

826
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: really does. Like if you put certain winter plants, like

827
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: the second spring plants in the ground at the right time,

828
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 3: they will just flourish.

829
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I mean, mint to me is something you

830
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: should only ever have in a pot.

831
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: You ever need that much mint. I have a ton

832
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: of it in the ground in our front yard. But

833
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: that's like a thing where it's like a groundcover almost. Yeah,

834
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: it goes nuts. It's insane. Right now. What are you

835
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 3: doing with all of your vegetables? I try to eat them?

836
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: Do you give a lot away? I don have? Like squash.

837
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: It was a summer two summers ago or three summers

838
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 3: ago where it was just busting out. I was eating

839
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 3: squash every single day. Like, were you delicious? Oh my god,

840
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: it's so good. Have you ever had fresh, fresh grilled zucchini? No,

841
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: it is. You slice it thin, just a little salt

842
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: and pepper, maybe some garlic powder and rubs. You paint

843
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: some oil on there, you know, brush some oil on it,

844
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: just grill it. I like it kind of where it's

845
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: it turns almost where it's not al dente at all.

846
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 3: It's very almost mushy. Oh I like it.

847
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: I was going to tell you I've only ever been

848
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: served mushy zucchini. No, really, I don't do well with

849
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: the mush.

850
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, that makes sense, and you're you're

851
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: right because that's a personal preference. But you can do it, obviously,

852
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: you can do it not mushy. I like, I guess

853
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: I do like it kind of al dente, like just

854
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: but edging toward mush Like there's a fine line. But

855
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: when you have it, when you do it right, it's just,

856
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: oh my god, it's like the great I think it's

857
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 3: just the greatest thing ever. Because you have these if

858
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: you pick them when they're small enough. That's the thing

859
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 3: is people always pick stuff the wrong time. Yeah, it's

860
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: too big and this big thing it's so stiff and

861
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 3: like it's just not flavorless. Yeah, the small zucchini or

862
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: the small squash is good, and or like young okra

863
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: is really good. Oh okra.

864
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: Okay, how do you prepare okra outside of the one

865
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: way I've ever eaten it.

866
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: Which is right? Yeah, I usually make like a little

867
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 3: like sort of a stew.

868
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: Or tomatoes I've had stewed over, Yeah.

869
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: Stewed okra. I mean it's sort of like with the

870
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: tomatoes because the acid and the tomatoes cuts down on

871
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: the the mucus of the the okra, because it does

872
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: have its technically a mucus. Yeah, it's it's considered a

873
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: mucilin agous vegetable. Is that true, Yeah, it is. It

874
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 3: does have a lot of I don't know what it's

875
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: technically called, but it's it's like a form of slime.

876
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: It's very slimy.

877
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: What are what are other vegetables in that category?

878
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: I don't really know exactly. I feel like there's other ones.

879
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: Maybe certain beans have that. Oh that kind of makes sense.

880
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's pretty unique, though, I think.

881
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't even be able to

882
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: tell you what okra looks like in the wild. I've

883
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: only ever seen it prepared as a food.

884
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: Oh really, it looks it's actually a relative of the

885
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: hibiscus plant. Oh, and it has these really very pretty

886
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: flowers of the early morning. They are like the super

887
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: creamy white. They have like a fringe of red to them.

888
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: And there has a stamen. It looks just like just

889
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: like a hibiscus flower, very similar. Wow, it's really cool,

890
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: like sort of sometimes three three lobed or five lobed leaves.

891
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: They get really tall too. They can get really bad

892
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: sometimes like eight feet tall.

893
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: Is there anything you're growing right now that you're particularly

894
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: proud of?

895
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: I just turned. I just harvested all my garlic. Oh

896
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: so I take all the garlic and I hang it

897
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: up and like clusters in the trees to dry for

898
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 3: a few weeks. There was one year where I had

899
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: so much garlic, like in the pandemic when there was

900
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 3: a garlic shortage, I was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna

901
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: have garlic. I grew. I must have grew like sixty

902
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: seventy heads of garlic. Oh, like four different varieties too.

903
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: How does garlic grow? Is Is it like a tuber?

904
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know if it's technically a tuber. I

905
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: think it might be. What do they call it? Like

906
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: a bulb? Because it looks like a bulb. You just

907
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: put the clove in the ground and you put it

908
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 3: where the pointy end is up, okay, and it roots,

909
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: it roots out and then it shoots up a little

910
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: green sort of like onion looking stock, right, and then

911
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: you garlic is in the ground for sometimes as much

912
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: as nine months. You put it in the ground in September,

913
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: and in places that are cold, it will overwinter in

914
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: the ground and then it shoots up some of the

915
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: first things to come up in the spring. And then

916
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: you wait until maybe like the three or four of

917
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: the bottom leaves are dry, and then you harvest it

918
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: and you have to hang it up to dry because

919
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: you want to be to dry out to harden. Basically,

920
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: you can cook with fresh garlic, but it's it's different.

921
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 3: It's much more mellow.

922
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, strengthens as it dry, It.

923
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: Does, I think it does. Also, there's something with the

924
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: I don't really know this is this is edge of

925
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: my knowledge here with garla.

926
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: I mean that's a decent amount of knowledge. Is this

927
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: all self taught?

928
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean that's the thing about gardening is so

929
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 3: much bogus on the internet where because your climate zone

930
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: matters so much. And also there's there's people who buy

931
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: tons of tomatoes and stuff and they put them in

932
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: It says full sun, but that's not California full sun. Right,

933
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 3: You didn grow great tomatoes in California in half shade

934
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: or more shade than that, because these are plants that

935
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: are used to having a ton of moisture. They're from

936
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: South America. They don't want to have they don't want

937
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 3: to have this desert full sun on them. They'll just

938
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: they will get destroyed. Yeah, I don't know.

939
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: Fun doing like good information on the internet's nearly impossible.

940
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: Especially now it's done.

941
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: The how tos and everything are all fake.

942
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: It's all done. It's all just like clickbait. Oh my god,

943
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: I can't believe. And don't don't get me started.

944
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: Don't get me started, kills me. You can't get any information.

945
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 3: It's almost like we have to start a community together

946
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: and you have to get some land and defend our community.

947
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: Some like that.

948
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: No, it really is so. I mean, I guess if

949
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: you like, the secret I think now is to type

950
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: the word reddit in next to whatever information you're looking for.

951
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: But then you still have to comb through all of

952
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: that information, see like do I trust this stranger? But

953
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: I guess it's better than when you get onto one

954
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: of these clickbait things where it's clearly written by some

955
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: copywriter that oh my god, I've done jobs like that

956
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I don't know anything about this, but

957
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: I just have to fill fifty, like five hundred words

958
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: with this keyword one hundred times.

959
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: Nightmare YouTube too, I watch like when I was first

960
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: arnted to boil crawfish, I spent like three weeks, four

961
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: weeks watching so many YouTube videos just over and over again.

962
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: It was like this dominated my brain to the point

963
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: where Okay, I think I have this. You have to

964
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 3: like have it in your you have to have the

965
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: feel of it, and you have to fail. I think too,

966
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: that's the key.

967
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: Did you fail? Initially I didn't.

968
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 3: Fail fail, but if my first batch was not as

969
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: flavorful as it should be, because you know, when you do

970
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: something for the first time, you're like, oh, is this

971
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: this seems like a lot. It seems like a lot

972
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: to do anything because the amounts always feel people who

973
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: are good chefs like I am not a good chef.

974
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 3: I watch people who are. You know, you see someone

975
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: who's like a naturally good chef, they just feel for it,

976
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 3: like what are you doing? You just you're talking to

977
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: me as you're cutting something. Are you kidding me?

978
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: It requires all of my con I'm so nervous.

979
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when I'm cooking, I am doing our talk

980
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 3: to me, I am. I do not want to mess

981
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: this up. It's all I can think about.

982
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: Because if I do, it will ruin my night.

983
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: Oh, because you have to. Could you imagine serving something

984
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 3: that's not cool?

985
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: I would never invite someone over for dinner. There's no way,

986
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: are you kidding?

987
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god? The stress I like. I kind of

988
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 3: like the stress, but I I have to be engaged

989
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: in it fully otherwise I will just be I'm like

990
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: a wreck. I'm just a fucking sweaty wreck.

991
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: I mean, there is something nice about the stress of

992
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: like doing a thing that's not related to like for me,

993
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: like not related to how I make a living.

994
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah exact, I'm just like I'm.

995
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: Stressing about a vegetable or whatever, or how this is

996
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: going to be baked, that will the outcome of That

997
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: means nothing in my actual life.

998
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 3: Did you get into baking?

999
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: That's all I do, that's the only that's the only

1000
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: sort of food I make at homes baked good.

1001
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: See, I'm opposite. I don't like baking because baking is

1002
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: so precise, right, I like to build baked. I'm gonna

1003
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: do a little I'm gonna do a little jazz, you know,

1004
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: ultimately an artist, I'm ultimately I'm sort of a jazz

1005
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 3: artist when it comes to I like to throw a

1006
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: little sad dash here kind of thing.

1007
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean. That is the nice thing about cooking is

1008
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you can eventually ruin a food, but there

1009
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: are a lot of like safety nets where you can

1010
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: keep like tooling around with it. But with baking, once

1011
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: it's in the oven, whatever you put in there is

1012
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: essentially the finished product. But it's nice because if you

1013
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: once you get a hang of it, and if you

1014
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: can measure correctly and follow directions, you know, it will

1015
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: probably be a good product.

1016
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: You ever me like not bread or anything like that. No,

1017
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: see that any type of bread. I get freaked out.

1018
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: See that's what I want to be able to do.

1019
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: No, I mean good, non, God.

1020
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 3: I would kill to be There's recipes I see on

1021
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: TikTok and stuff where I'm like, oh my god, this

1022
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: looks I'd be able to make homemade like chicken curry

1023
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: with dumbread or something like that, or absolute.

1024
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: Dream and none and like non pieda tortillas are all

1025
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: essentially the same ingredients, but they're very difficult to make.

1026
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: They are when they're good, they're just like so good

1027
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 3: where you're you can't go back, No, you can't go back.

1028
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: And a lot of restaurants, I think underestimate how important

1029
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: that part of the meal is.

1030
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: That's what that's what I'm there for, truly for. If

1031
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: it's tortillas, I'm there for the tortilla.

1032
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a big problem with La Mexican food. I've

1033
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: read articles about this. Actually there aren't a lot of

1034
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: good large flower tortillas in Los Angeles.

1035
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: But when you see them being made like in front

1036
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 3: of you.

1037
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 2: Like, oh, it's all I want in the world. God, damn,

1038
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: have you ever made a tort you?

1039
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: Oh No, I don't know. I won't even I mean

1040
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: I should, I should get into that. There's so many

1041
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: things I would like to do. God, maybe we should

1042
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: do that.

1043
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, it's during pandemic and they tasted good.

1044
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 2: But the shape was always like it looked like Idaho

1045
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: or something it was like, and I wanted to just

1046
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: be a nice round thing.

1047
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 3: Idaho is a bad shape. Is the shape that is

1048
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: so specific it just means this is not round. This

1049
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: is the not the not round is shape.

1050
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: They dropped the ball in a huge way. Then it's

1051
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: right next to Utah, which is a really nice little

1052
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: square boot with the dip.

1053
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 3: With the dip, it's got you know, chunk.

1054
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: It's geometrically perfect in a way.

1055
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1056
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: But then you look at Idaho and you think somebody

1057
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: made that by mistake.

1058
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know the history of that, but it's

1059
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 3: got I'm sure it's fraught with probably a lot of killing.

1060
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of killing that which.

1061
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's what I love about all that

1062
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: Western history is it's just even under the banner of heaven,

1063
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: it's just how much back and forth, just so heavy duty,

1064
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 3: so brutal.

1065
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 2: A lot of very graphic violence. Oh yeah, a lot

1066
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: of Uh what is is that in the book The

1067
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: Mountain Meadows Massacre, I.

1068
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: Think there's a couple of maskers in there. Yeahs, and

1069
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: they are massacres.

1070
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: Massacres within the last two hundred years. It's not like

1071
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: ancient history. Yeah, awful, But that was the wild West.

1072
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: It was. It's called the wild West. I guess I

1073
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: always forget that wild.

1074
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: You camp a lot, not a lot, I feel like,

1075
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that I know you camp.

1076
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm indicating by you that you're a camp I'm

1077
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: a showcaser, You're a camping, You're a show camper. If

1078
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna feel this bad, I'm gonna tell people about it,

1079
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna film it. I'm gonna like take the pictures

1080
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: and make it look sexy as possible.

1081
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: It always looks incredible. It always seems like you're enjoying yourself.

1082
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 3: I am enjoying myself. I guess there's always a piece

1083
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: where you know it's hard to sleep. Yeah, that's the problem.

1084
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 3: Each year I do it, it becomes harder to sleep.

1085
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: And even though the equipment keeps getting better, it's just like, man,

1086
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 3: this is rough.

1087
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: How long do you go camping for where you go

1088
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 2: for a full week or is it just like an overnight?

1089
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 3: Usually like a week or so. But we'll do maybe

1090
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: three nights in the back country at the most. And

1091
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: that's like serious. We'll be in the back country off

1092
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: the trail. You've got to carry a lot in.

1093
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you like.

1094
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 3: To go camping? It's almost always in the Yosemite or

1095
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: that area. I have a good friend who is from

1096
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: Minnesota and he works out there. He works for the USGS,

1097
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 3: and he will take us on his off days. He

1098
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 3: has like, you know, eight or nine days off at

1099
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 3: a time, like his big because he hikes for a living.

1100
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 3: He's up in the back country. He counts some endangered

1101
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,479
Speaker 3: species and measures them and all this stuff. Oh wow,

1102
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 3: he's our guide and he's taking me places that are

1103
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 3: just exceptional, like places where no one's I mean people

1104
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: have been everywhere obviously, but places where I think maybe

1105
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: one percent of the park visitors have gone because it's

1106
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 3: a deep off the trails. It's uh, do you feel

1107
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: like you're in danger? Uh? Not with him, but they had.

1108
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 3: I did get one of those little in reach garment

1109
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: and reach things last year because I was.

1110
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 2: Thinking, is that as a GPS, a GPS.

1111
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: Things that we can call. You can do an SOS

1112
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 3: if you need to, you can text. You have a

1113
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 3: couple of texts. You can text like, hey, I'm alive.

1114
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: Addicted to our devices for Ultimately.

1115
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 3: I think it's yes, it's addicted to being connected, you know.

1116
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: But the uh, because if he were to die suddenly,

1117
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: I will be pretty pretty horrifying.

1118
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: So they are you being lost in the woods, Yeah,

1119
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: not knowing what direction to turn getting more and more lost.

1120
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: The panic that's setting in. That doesn't work for me.

1121
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 3: The good thing is there's lots of water to drink

1122
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: out there, and you know, you kind of know where

1123
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 3: you are. It's just more about can you get there

1124
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: with the available food that you have.

1125
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: Why is it so difficult to get to these certain areas?

1126
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: Is it a lot of like rock climbing.

1127
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 3: That's much rock climbing. It's just literally physical distance. You

1128
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: have to go up a climb up a hill for

1129
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: a couple of miles, through bushwack a bit through some

1130
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 3: trees and stuff, and then you get to like an

1131
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: out well. You know, it's elevation too. Elevation is a

1132
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: big deal because it's hard to get up there.

1133
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: Have you seen any wild animals? Yeah, you know.

1134
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: We saw last time last summer. We saw this bear.

1135
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: It was barely through the woods. We didn't know what

1136
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: it was at first. I thought it was like a

1137
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 3: bore or something. Was running so fast as we're running

1138
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: along this dirt road we were driving to to where

1139
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 3: we're going to camp that night, and it was going nuts.

1140
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 3: And then we camped that night. We set up This

1141
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 3: is a less less primitive camping we're at like a

1142
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 3: spot that had at firing and stuff, and uh, we

1143
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: climb up this little peaked at sunset to go look

1144
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 3: over the valley on their side and we're up there.

1145
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 3: I'm taking a picture of the four of us total.

1146
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: And right after I take that picture, we see this

1147
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: bear just full speed trucking through the meadow paralleled us

1148
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: and I wasn't able to get out my camera to

1149
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 3: take a picture of fast it was going so fast.

1150
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 3: And it was a big, big bear California. It's a

1151
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: black bear. So which they're I mean, they're truly not

1152
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: dangerous especially not or No, they're not. I mean what

1153
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 3: does that mean? It means that they are they're not

1154
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 3: brown bears, they're not grizzlies.

1155
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: Are grizzlies just like aggressive and they're out to kill there.

1156
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if they're not to kill so much.

1157
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: Grizzlies are only they're only out.

1158
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: To kill us. They want us to all die. Uh.

1159
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: It's the big difference is this. You can scare a

1160
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 3: black bear kind of black bear. The ideas you get big,

1161
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: you make a lot of noise and you can scare

1162
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 3: it and you will scare it. That bear that was

1163
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: running by us. It was probably deathly afraid of us,

1164
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 3: that's why it was running. It wasn't headed anywhere. Oh no,

1165
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure it saw us and it started

1166
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: to start running. And what the brown bears, You don't

1167
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 3: aggress them. You're supposed to play dead because they will

1168
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: if you aggress them. That ratchets up to ratchets them up.

1169
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes black bears will like nose through your

1170
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 3: shit and they'll steal stuff. But those are the ones

1171
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: that are closer to like campgrounds and stuff, and they will,

1172
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: you know, if they're habituated to do that, then they

1173
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 3: can be aggressive. But I think the wild, the chances

1174
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 3: of it's so low, if you're deep out there out

1175
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 3: in the back huntry, that you'll have a bad experience

1176
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 3: with an animal like that. Huh. I mean that's what

1177
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: I tell myself, That's what I've been told. I would

1178
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: have to to sleep at night. Oh my friend Steve

1179
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 3: didn't sleep that night. He stayed up till like five

1180
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning. Oh, you know, just because he

1181
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 3: was so scared of the bear coming to visit our camp.

1182
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: But the thing is, in those situations, I just think,

1183
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: if I'm awake it's still going to attack me. I'd

1184
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 2: rather at least get some sleep before being attacked.

1185
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to be woken up

1186
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: with a buy a bear. I'd rather be I don't know.

1187
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: I feel like if I'm awake, I'm gonna make a

1188
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: miss I'm gonna freak out. But if I'm sleep, maybe

1189
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: the bear kind of nudges around. By the time i'm awake,

1190
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: it's left. But if I'm awake, I'm making bad decisions.

1191
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: But maybe that would scare the bear. It is big

1192
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 3: much for these things. You can scare them, same as coyotes.

1193
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 3: You know, coyotes don't scare me at all. They shouldn't.

1194
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 3: People who are scared of coyotes almost it makes me

1195
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 3: piss me off because it's like they're they're so frightened

1196
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: of everything, they're so frightened, and they're just they're just creatures.

1197
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: That live here, starving creatures.

1198
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're starving creatures. Like I'm so scared of these codes.

1199
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 3: There hasn't been a coyote attack on a human adult

1200
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: in over one hundred years. It's about time some insane

1201
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: thing like that. One hundred years, I think there hasn't

1202
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: been a. There's only been one fatality the United States

1203
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 3: ever from a coyote on an adult. They've they've taken

1204
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: a bunch of kids.

1205
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like to hear that, but honest child snatchers.

1206
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sad, but you know, you know, watch your kid.

1207
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the most the kid doing wandering around at night

1208
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: with kai coyotes.

1209
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 3: Parents, the parents, the parents. Yeah.

1210
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: I when I see a coyote, I I'd like to

1211
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 2: just stand there and.

1212
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: Look at it. Oh hell yeah.

1213
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: We look at each other and then I usually have

1214
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: to move because they don't move right, or when they

1215
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 2: do skiter away. That's I always feel kind of bad.

1216
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm sorry for interrupting your business. You're obviously

1217
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: looking for garbage.

1218
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: Do you ever walk toward them?

1219
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: I've never walked towards one. I mean, unless I need

1220
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: to get somewhere.

1221
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 3: Okay, have you I haven't, but just you know, to

1222
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 3: get closer. Look kind of thing, right. I love the

1223
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 3: look of a coyote. It's so cool.

1224
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: They're very unique, so scrunny and I don't know.

1225
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: Yah scruffy, and it's like they're they're traveling through a

1226
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 3: different realm. They live on a different plane, they see

1227
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 3: stuff that we don't see.

1228
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: Maybe I wonder if I have to imagine people have

1229
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: coyotes as pants. God, I mean people have everything as pets.

1230
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't. I menagine they're normal people. But I

1231
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 3: wonder what they'd be like because they're because there's they're

1232
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 3: pretty close to dogs.

1233
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have to imagine you have to

1234
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 2: Is it from being a puppy. Yeah, I can't imagine

1235
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: you're just like out on sunset picking up a coyote

1236
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: and taking it home to right, But I imagine it's a

1237
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: pretty calm little creature.

1238
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind owning one. You never know, I might

1239
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 3: just tear ass, just rip up everything.

1240
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: You know.

1241
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 3: There's some dogs that just love to destroy.

1242
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are cats, all sorts of pets

1243
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 2: at home that just destroy everything. And then you see

1244
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: some YouTuber with a raccoon that's like lang lying on

1245
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 2: spackating grapes or whatever.

1246
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 3: So they're just showing you the good part, Yeah, exactly,

1247
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 3: they're showing you it's like everything. They're showing you the beautiful,

1248
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: luxurious aspect of it that's very the dark, hideous backside

1249
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: where the raccoon is like switching their medications around like that.

1250
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, no, I took the heart medicine today.

1251
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: What the fuck? Those things are devious. They tear out

1252
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: my garden like crazy they do.

1253
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: I come back here and that have been done. Are

1254
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: like a person's been back here, but here it isn't

1255
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: it like that. They'll pick up pots and just throw

1256
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 2: them on the ground.

1257
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: You know why why they're trying to get grubs?

1258
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh, they're looking for little bugs.

1259
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they eat these little little grubs in there. I've

1260
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 3: never heard of that though. They actually break your pockets.

1261
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll come back here up there, They'll just knocked

1262
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: off fasts. Yeah, they're like they'll find weird things in

1263
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: my yard. I'm like, certainly you have other things.

1264
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: To do back here. Yeah, but I'm so smart.

1265
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: I guess they're bored and need food.

1266
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: I guess they have a rotation. So I'm good friends,

1267
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: not good friends, but I talk to frequently. One of

1268
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: the people who works at this garden store I go to.

1269
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: He's a very very smart man, older man. He was

1270
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: saying how the raccoons tend to make like they have

1271
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: a two week circuit, a lot of them, So you

1272
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 3: think just when you think like, Okay, they're not coming back.

1273
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: They come back. Why it's happened to me so many

1274
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: times because every morning we'll wake up, they go in

1275
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: the kitchen, I look in the garden and see like

1276
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: have I been hit? Did they come by? Have I

1277
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 3: been ransacked? And it's always the night. I think like, okay,

1278
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 3: they're not going to come tonight, and I wake up

1279
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god.

1280
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: Wow, So are they just touring the city.

1281
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have like loop they have. They're so smart.

1282
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: They have like a memory of things. They have are

1283
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 3: like a bus driver or something like that, a terrorizing

1284
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 3: bus driver of sorts. It's really hard to defend against them.

1285
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is there anything you can do?

1286
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: You can put down like hardwork cloth or chicken wire

1287
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 3: over your soil to prevent them from digging. Or you

1288
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 3: can almost daily put out red and black pepper mixture,

1289
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 3: which they don't like. They don't like strong smells like garlic,

1290
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: red pepper, black pepper mixed with vinegar and stuff. It's

1291
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: the most work I gave up because I have a

1292
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 3: banana tree. I think it's actually squirrels and rats eating

1293
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 3: the leaves of that, and I don't like to hear rats.

1294
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but they're everywhere. You can't get rid of them.

1295
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 3: Don't like to hear that at all. I don't like

1296
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Speaker 3: it either, I really hate it. But they are. It's

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00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: really hard to get rid of them. You have a

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00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 3: banana tree, Yeah, I got bananas off at once.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that makes one time.

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00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: One time. It's really hard. I don't know why it worked,

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00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: but it did. I haven't gotten any sense. I think

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00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: it's because the squirrels have been eating the leaves so

1303
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 3: much it hasn't been able to grow that well.

1304
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: How long does it take a banana to grow?

1305
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 3: They grow so fast. They're not technically trees. They're technically

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00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: a plant, like a herbaceous plant. They don't wood out,

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00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: you know. I mean like you can take a machete

1308
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: and chop through a whole banana slack with one stroke. Huh,

1309
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: it's not that hard.

1310
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Speaker 2: Do They get pretty tall?

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00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 3: Don't get real tall. They'll get like maybe different varieties,

1312
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 3: but mine gets about fifteen feet tall maybe wow, maybe

1313
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: twelve feet tall, and it's just barren now. Yeah, right now.

1314
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 3: Bananas are weird because they so when a banana saw

1315
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: it grows, it puts off the fruit. You harvest the fruit.

1316
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: Once you harvest the fruits, there's a big, long, big

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00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: sea pod that shoots out like an alien thing, and

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Speaker 3: once that's harvested, it's called the mother. You're supposed to

1319
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: cut that down because that plan is done, and you

1320
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: chop it up and leave it in the ground for fertilizer.

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Speaker 3: But other stalks will shoot up and the next tallest

1322
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: stock is will be the new mother, and that will

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Speaker 3: should be the one that gives off bananas. So you're

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01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 3: supposed to always only have one primary stock, even though

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Speaker 3: the banana wants to shoot up in various places. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think I messed up and maybe cut the new mother,

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Speaker 3: and right now I have, like a I have two stalks,

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Speaker 3: so it's sort of just ornamental at this point. Do

1329
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Speaker 3: you think you're able to fix it. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I was just out of town so much the last

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Speaker 3: year that I wasn't able to attend to it like that.

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Speaker 3: Because it needs a special fertilizer, it needs like extra water.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's so demanding. Yeah, they are. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why it didn't fruit. I think it

1335
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: was just to stress so much stuff with these tropical plants.

1336
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: Is just about how the environment is so specific and right.

1337
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: You have to have the right amount of humidity, right

1338
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 3: amount of wind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this does feel like a great weather for I

1340
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 2: mean a climate for a banana.

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Speaker 3: But I got them. Baby, were they good bananas? They

1342
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 3: were excellent, they were They were very small.

1343
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Speaker 2: I love a small banana. Yeah, especially those like mini bananas.

1344
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: They were. Oh, they were so good. There's so and

1345
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 3: it tastes so much different than like your normal cavendish

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01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 3: banana you buy the store. You know, there's only one

1347
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Speaker 3: type of banana. You buy one type.

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01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: There's all stores only have one type of banana.

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01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Cabindish variety. And now there's it's threatened

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01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: to go away because of blight. Oh wow. Because all

1351
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 3: these growers like Dole was the main I mean they

1352
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 3: grow all pineapples and bananas, I think for the most part,

1353
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Speaker 3: like ninety percent or something. But they had this one

1354
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: variety of the cabin dish that they grow and now

1355
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 3: it's having problems. But they there's like three hundred varieties

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Speaker 3: of bananas.

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Speaker 2: So when these go away, just have to pick a

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Speaker 2: new banana.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but that's the problem is everything is geared towards

1360
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: the Cavendish, Like there's it's been propagated for so long

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Speaker 3: that they they might be like a huge banana shortage

1362
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 3: at some point because of this blight that's going on. Wow,

1363
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 3: this is like a couple of years ago. I'm sure

1364
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 3: they've fixed it through massive amounts of chemicals and stuff.

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Speaker 2: But have you had any other types of bananas? I'm

1366
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: curious what other bananas would even be like.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a couple. There's a guy I know

1368
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 3: who's this amazing botanist. He lives in Texas. He has

1369
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: been in foxtron on Instagram. He goes a couple of

1370
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 3: different varieties of them, and I never tried his. But

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01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 3: the ones I have I think are called ice cream. Oh,

1372
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 3: there's so many varieties. I mean, have you ever been

1373
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: to Hawaii? Yes? Did you have any bananas there?

1374
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Speaker 2: No, But I've had. I spent some time in Southeast

1375
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: Asia and I had bananas there.

1376
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Speaker 3: They a lot. You have tiny banana? Yeah, they taste different, right,

1377
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 3: much more fun to eat. Yeah. Some are more creamy,

1378
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 3: some are like a sweeter taste. I don't. I mean,

1379
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: I've I've probably had a few varieties, but this variety

1380
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: that I harvested. Definitely. It tasted like those small banas

1381
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 3: you have like in the tropics.

1382
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: I love those small bananas. And ultimately the ones you

1383
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: buy the sore too much banana. Yeah, halfway through them,

1384
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: like I don't this is too much and it's like

1385
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: gonna make me gag. Yeah, they're so they're too starchy, Yeah,

1386
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: way too starchy. Often too mushy, mushy, like a mush.

1387
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: I love a mush like it.

1388
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 2: Like a black banana. I mean that's the rotting on

1389
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: the counter.

1390
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 3: These bananas I harvested. I thought they were I thought

1391
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 3: they were bad, right, I was about to compost some

1392
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 3: and I cut them open and they were perfect. Oh

1393
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 3: so that's the thing is some of these weirder varieties

1394
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: when they when you think they are bad, is when

1395
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 3: they're perfectly ripe, right, I think as usually what happens

1396
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 3: is animals get to them. Like it's if you have

1397
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 3: a really good fruit, it's almost impossible to keep keep animals, like,

1398
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 3: oh my god, the peach.

1399
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: If you have stirrels, just eat all of our lemons

1400
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: and our oranges.

1401
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: If you have peaches, you're like, yeah, peach. I don't

1402
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 3: know a single person who has a stone fruit tree.

1403
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 3: They've got to enjoy more than like a few of them, shape,

1404
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 3: since these fuckers are just unstoppable.

1405
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah that our neighbor has a pomegranate tree that coaches

1406
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: over the fence here, and we might get one pomegranate here.

1407
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 3: The rest are half eaten by the time. Yeah, such

1408
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 3: a shit. You have to bag them up. Same with

1409
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: the figs. Figs are hard to get. I'm not a

1410
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 3: figure eater. Oh really, you know why?

1411
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: Mush it's a mush, it's a slime.

1412
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 3: I like them when it's like this is the grossest

1413
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 3: thing ever. I like them when it's like a sack. Oh,

1414
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: it's like a sack, and it's the best. It's so good.

1415
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: Then what about that it's good?

1416
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. It's when it's one I'll

1417
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 3: get even worse for you. Here. I used to grow

1418
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 3: a lot of strawberries, and once in a while you

1419
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 3: get a strawberry that somehow the bugs have not touched it,

1420
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: It's been perfectly shaded whatever, and it literally starts to

1421
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 3: ferment inside the skin and you take aodbite of it.

1422
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: It sounds gross, right, but it has this effervescent quality

1423
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 3: to it. Because it started to ferment. It's a little

1424
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 3: bit boozy. Wow. So the flavor is I mean it's

1425
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 3: I think personally it's probably the best flavor that exists

1426
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 3: in the world. Is it? Is it fermented on the

1427
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: vine strawberry It's like it's a sack. It's it looks

1428
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 3: like you get gusher or something like that with booze.

1429
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,479
Speaker 3: But that is Oh, that is good.

1430
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 2: But that feels like you can only get those by

1431
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 2: a mistake basically.

1432
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, I've tried sense so many times. I just can't.

1433
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 3: I can't replicate it. I even tried to make strawberry

1434
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 3: wine last year. It was bad. It was it was

1435
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 3: real bad. It was so bad. I was just I

1436
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 3: was sad about what was that process? I mean, it's

1437
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 3: the whole thing. You get the fruit, you wash it,

1438
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 3: you you mash it, and I added the yeasts and stuff.

1439
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 3: I thought I could recreate that, but it just didn't work.

1440
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 3: I think I needed to the problem is I use

1441
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 3: the wrong type of yeast. You think I need to

1442
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 3: do some type of a natural yeast like a lambique

1443
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 3: yeast or something like that. And how long did it

1444
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: have to ferment? Just I only did it like maybe

1445
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,479
Speaker 3: a week or two. Okay, so it's basically jail wine.

1446
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 3: That's completely But the yeast is so important. I mean,

1447
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 3: I used to brew a lot, but I don't. I

1448
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 3: don't know. It's so much work.

1449
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: You have so many productive habits.

1450
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 3: I guess it's all just like I don't know, it's

1451
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 3: not it's more just uh doing something. So I don't

1452
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 3: do something bad, I guess.

1453
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 2: But you're someone that I feel like could safely retire.

1454
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 3: I would.

1455
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I can retire until I can think

1456
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: of one hobby I can do. Really what would I

1457
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: possibly do?

1458
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: But I also feel like I would. I would lose

1459
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 3: my mind if I was retired.

1460
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: I don't think you would. Oh my god, I would

1461
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 2: be gardening. You'd be hiking.

1462
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, But that stuff is all just in between. Like

1463
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 3: I like working so much that I like I did

1464
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: this movie in September in Florida, like a month and

1465
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: a half. It was the most work I've ever done

1466
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: in my entire life, and I was so happy because

1467
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 3: I felt just like utterly consumed by the process of it,

1468
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 3: because it was just every single day I had to

1469
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 3: do stuff. And after that, I felt like, you know

1470
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 3: what I would like to do. I would like to

1471
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: work three hundred days of the year. That'd be great,

1472
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, it'd be like this industry workhorse, just get

1473
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 3: ground to dust.

1474
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: I mean, as someone who has been basically unemployed for

1475
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: a year and a half, I can kind of yeah,

1476
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind having an actual job. Yeah, there's something

1477
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: nice about having to think about that.

1478
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 3: But also I say.

1479
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 2: That, yes, the reality, I mean, there's there's no winning there,

1480
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: certainly no.

1481
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 3: I think the winner is when you have that thing

1482
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 3: where it's regular and you can really it's enough. When

1483
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 3: you're working, you're really working a lot. So when you

1484
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 3: aren't working, you feel like I can justify the inactivity.

1485
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, I think we should play a game. Okay,

1486
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse Listener.

1487
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: We're taking a break from Gift Master for a minutes.

1488
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: Under construction. Okay, I need to number between one and

1489
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 2: ten from you seven. I have to do some like

1490
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 2: calculating right now to get our game pieces. Okay, So

1491
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: you can recommend something, promote something, do whatever you want.

1492
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 3: Come see me in New York in July twenty first,

1493
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 3: I think at the Soho Playhouse. Well, We'll be performing

1494
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 3: my one man show called Minnesota Reggae Colostomy Bag at

1495
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 3: the Soho Playhouse in July. Tickets are available on the

1496
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 3: Soho Playhouse website, or you can go to Johnny Pemberton

1497
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 3: dot dog. That is Johnny Pemberton dot dog and you

1498
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 3: can click the link and go through and get that.

1499
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 3: Take it because you got to get it because it's

1500
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 3: New York and we love theater.

1501
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 2: Great, excellent, cool. Everyone go see Johnny. I think you

1502
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: when I move here in twenty ten. You are probably

1503
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: the first live person I saw that made me laugh.

1504
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I remember I was at what was the

1505
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: name of that thing?

1506
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: What's up? Tiger Lily? Okay, I remember all this.

1507
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 2: Person's so funny and that show was like four hours long,

1508
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: and so I was.

1509
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 3: I was a bruiser.

1510
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: Everyone go see Johnny. This is how we play Gift

1511
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 2: or a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You're

1512
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 2: gonna tell me if there are a gift or a

1513
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 2: curse and why, and then I'll tell you if you're

1514
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 2: right or wrong, because there are correct answers.

1515
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 3: I like that. Okay.

1516
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: Number one this is from a listener named Emily Gift

1517
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 2: or a curse. Pilots calling airline passengers souls.

1518
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 3: I e.

1519
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 2: There are three hundred souls on board.

1520
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 3: That's a curse. Why because it's just like, it's too

1521
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 3: much on top of what we already have to deal with.

1522
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 3: It should only be said in retrospect when they are

1523
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 3: in fact souls.

1524
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: Uh, Johnny, you're wrong.

1525
01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a gift.

1526
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 2: It terrifies everyone on board. Suddenly we're all spooked. We're

1527
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 2: thinking about mortality. I'm looking at the person next to me,

1528
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 2: thinking about there's a spirit, a soul next to me.

1529
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 2: We're essentially just now on a haunted flight. I mean,

1530
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: this has never happened to me. It feels like the

1531
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: pilot is trying to scare the passengers. Maybe it's like

1532
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: a way to get people to behave. Yeah, it's like,

1533
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: if you don't behave, you will be a soul.

1534
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: I see the gift of this.

1535
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: I think it's a gift or I know that's the

1536
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: correct answer. Okay, so you've missed the first one, and

1537
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: that's too bad. Number two this is from a listener

1538
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: named Lauren. Gift or a curse Fresca.

1539
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 3: What's a gift? Why? Because it's one of the few

1540
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 3: grapefruit flavored drinkable items out there. It's commercial, commercially available

1541
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 3: grapefruit drinkables.

1542
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, I love Fresca has been this diet drink

1543
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 2: for hundreds of years. It's really been out there. It's

1544
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: grapefruit flavored. It reminds me of Vicky Smith, the neighbor,

1545
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 2: you know, drinking her fresca. And again, there aren't that

1546
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 2: many grapefruit flavored things. I love grapefruit. I recently learned

1547
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 2: that grapefruit interacts with my medication, but I'm not gonna

1548
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: stop drinking it.

1549
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 3: Oh, it is like the most interactive thing of all.

1550
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 2: What is happening with grapefruit? It's just another citrus?

1551
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 3: Doesn't that make? That makes me like grapefruit so much more?

1552
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: Because I'm like, you're so powerful that most people can't

1553
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 3: even eat you.

1554
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fascinating fruit. And the when I get

1555
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: a glass of grapefruit juice, there's nothing better.

1556
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 3: I think it is just so great that I got

1557
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,919
Speaker 3: some non I got grapefruit like cocktail at a restaurant

1558
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 3: there day. I couldn't even take a sick. I took

1559
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 3: a sip to say, this isn't juice, This is like

1560
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: something that's been concocted.

1561
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's an ad bastard'sation of a wonderful thing.

1562
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 3: But the real thing, especially if it's white grapefruit not

1563
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 3: really red. Oh I don't think I've had a white grapefruit.

1564
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 3: If you see grapefood's growing around La. The white grapefruit

1565
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 3: is the what is it the meat white, it's sort

1566
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 3: of like yellowish. So the grape is like yellow, and

1567
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 3: when you cut it open, it's the same color. It's yellow.

1568
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 3: It's like a sort of a pale and.

1569
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: The juice is almost like an orange juice.

1570
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more it's more bitter than a grapefrud. It's

1571
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 3: it's more traditional. If you ever have like a tiki cocktail,

1572
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 3: it's it's white grapefruit. You can't buy white grapefruit in

1573
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 3: the stores because it's not like I mean, maybe some stores,

1574
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure nowadays you can't buy it. But

1575
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 3: luckily we live here and you don't have to.

1576
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 2: I would love to have a grapefruit tree. Yeah, I'd

1577
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: love to eat a grapefruit for breakfast.

1578
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 3: I never do.

1579
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: But right, what a feeling I mean, it does, I mean, it's.

1580
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 3: A huge hassle. It is a hassle. It would be

1581
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 3: the hardest thing to eat. I eat it over the sink,

1582
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 3: like a real rack.

1583
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: Eat it. Do you just buy into it?

1584
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 3: I cut it into sections like an orange, and I

1585
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 3: just eat it like I just, you know, masticate it

1586
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,520
Speaker 3: like a That sounds incredible.

1587
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just duth absolutely interacting with all of your medications,

1588
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: just putting your life on the line.

1589
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 3: Good. Buy a lipitour.

1590
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely a gift. We love a fresco. It's so refreshing.

1591
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time I had one, but yeah,

1592
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 2: I can imagine cracking one open and enjoying it.

1593
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 3: You had a Paloma Paloma. It's the cocktail. No, I've

1594
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 3: never had one. It's the best cocktail. Really. What's in

1595
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 3: a Paloma Paloma is lime juice. Not just lime juice,

1596
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 3: but job matt, what do you call it when you

1597
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,440
Speaker 3: grind something up muddled muddle mines, yes, yes, muddled grapefruit

1598
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 3: tequila and you can do a rim okay, and then

1599
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 3: you put squirt in there or I to do a

1600
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 3: little bit of squirt and a little bit of grapefruit

1601
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 3: juice and some sod water and you garnish it with

1602
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 3: a bunch of mint. Oh, wonderful. It's just the greatest strength.

1603
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 3: It's truly the greatest strength.

1604
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: Do you know.

1605
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: I think home State the restaurant has frozen pal and

1606
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: I've had a sample of it before they'll give you

1607
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 2: a sample. There's a strong, very strong, even like the

1608
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 2: little teeth drove away drunk. You know it was extremely

1609
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 2: dangerous drink. Okay, you've gotten one right so far. Finally,

1610
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: this is from a listener named Michael. Give your a

1611
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 2: curse rinsing dishes before putting them in the dishwasher.

1612
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 3: It's a curse. Why because it's it's a thing you

1613
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 3: have to do. It's a thing.

1614
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: It's like a step, it's another stack.

1615
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 3: I think dishes are a curse in general. Yes, that's

1616
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 3: why I'm eating over the sink. I'm not going to

1617
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 3: dirty dish. I just want to eat everything over the sink.

1618
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 3: I have a trough that can just rinse out with

1619
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 3: a hose or something like that.

1620
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: Or that's not a bad IDEA dinner table with two

1621
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: troughs just running down the parallel and everyone eats over

1622
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 2: this trough.

1623
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 3: A bunch of pigs that live down there, or like

1624
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 3: you know, some glady.

1625
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 2: That feels like a crawdad baked sort of thing. It's

1626
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 2: kind of messy. You throw plastic on the table. Newspaper, newspaper, right,

1627
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 2: it's the tradition, that's okay. I like to contribute to problems,

1628
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: so I'm putting plastic on everything. Just filling the ocean

1629
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: with junk. Rinsing dishes before putting them in the dishwasher

1630
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: is a curse you. I mean, first of all, why

1631
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 2: do I even have the dishwasher?

1632
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, blast that away for me.

1633
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure someone probably tell me it's gonna

1634
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 2: break the dishwasher. But Jim, my boyfriend, and I often

1635
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: fight about this and I I've probably just made this up.

1636
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: But I think the dishwasher can tell if. I mean,

1637
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 2: I know that.

1638
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that.

1639
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: ALLOWED just horrified that I even think this has some

1640
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 2: type of sensors, thinking like lasers shooting through the dishwasher

1641
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 2: to tell if there are crumbs on your plate.

1642
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna do what. It doesn't matter what

1643
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 3: right it has it have a trap down there that

1644
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 3: you can just you can the trip down there, fish

1645
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 3: out the Yeah.

1646
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if I begin rinsing the dishes,

1647
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 2: I might as well just wash them.

1648
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like it's a slippery slope. It's literally a slippery.

1649
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 2: Wet and wild slope. Okay, we got two out of three.

1650
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. I like that. Not bad? Was that

1651
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 3: sixty six percent? Sixty six? Six point six?

1652
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the kind of an endless sixes right, Yeah,

1653
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: probably not endless, but well it is right, Yeah, I

1654
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 2: don't think. I mean, once you get to that final

1655
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: little crumb, it's almost non existent.

1656
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 3: The Greeks just couldn't figure it out.

1657
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 2: They couldn't give us a better number system. Okay, time

1658
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 2: for the final segment of the podcast. This is called

1659
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 2: I said no emails people listeners who are desperate. Right

1660
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:55,560
Speaker 2: into the podcast, they are begging for answers. Did I

1661
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: say the email? I said, no gifts at gmail dot com.

1662
01:16:58,479 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 2: We hope me answer a question.

1663
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 3: Love you.

1664
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 2: Okay, this says mister Weineger and guest. That's very formal, uncomfortable. Hello.

1665
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 2: I very much enjoy listening to your podcast and especially

1666
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: respect your wise advice. Okay, although my situation does not

1667
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 2: relate to gifts, I'm hoping you can still provide some assistance.

1668
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: Several years ago, I had a group of friends who

1669
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: would meet weekly at a bar for trivia.

1670
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 3: Nights and chit chat.

1671
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 2: Eventually, we became less interested in the trivia and more

1672
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 2: interested in catching up, so it made more sense to

1673
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 2: gather at someone's home instead of the trivia night. We

1674
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: have several paragraphs to go wow, Okay, maybe just too.

1675
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 2: I ended up as the usual host along with my

1676
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: roommate for these gatherings, as my apartment was the most

1677
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: central and best set up for a game night or hang.

1678
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 2: I am happy to share any snacks, drinks, anything else

1679
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: in my home with my friends, although after a significant

1680
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 2: period of time of hosting these weekly gatherings, there have

1681
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 2: been several weeks where my life has been too hectic

1682
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: for trips to the grocery store in order to have

1683
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: things on hand for my friends to enjoy. Although I

1684
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 2: almost always have some kind of fruit or granola bars

1685
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 2: on hand, that's not a great snack. One of my friends,

1686
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: who has attended nearly all of these gatherings, has started

1687
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: making jokes about my poor hosting abilities because I don't

1688
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,959
Speaker 2: have a selection of snacks and drinks they are interested

1689
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,919
Speaker 2: in having. Normally, I would brush this off as friendly teasing,

1690
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: but after she has made this joke a dozen times.

1691
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: I started to get a little bit irritated, seeing as

1692
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 2: she has never once offered to bring snacks or drinks

1693
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 2: after nearly two years of these events, or even offered

1694
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 2: to host. Additionally, anytime I suggested we meet at a

1695
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: restaurant for dinner instead, this same friend objects to the

1696
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,560
Speaker 2: cost of eating out as opposed to the food and

1697
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 2: drinks at my home, which appear by magic. This person's furious.

1698
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: My question, thanks for bearing with me, You're welcome. Is

1699
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 2: my friend right that it's bad hosting not to have

1700
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 2: snacks on hand? Am I being dramatic to be bothered

1701
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 2: by this? Is my friend being a disrespectful guest? I

1702
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: look forward to your perspective, and that just says from

1703
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 2: a fan. They won't even put their name on.

1704
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 3: This email such you know it's going to get back to.

1705
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: Yes, this friend is going to be furious.

1706
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 3: I think that's disrespectful. You think that's disrespectful the dispectful guest? Yes,

1707
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 3: I mean from my perspective, but they didn't say I

1708
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 3: said no snacks, so if it was that right to right?

1709
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: I mean, from what I'm seeing here, this host is

1710
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 2: a horrible host. They keep luring people into their trap

1711
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: and refusing to go to the grocery store, making up excuses. Yeah,

1712
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 2: granola bars. They're just rummaging through the cupboard, so I've

1713
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: got some granola bars. Well, they're able to continue buying

1714
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 2: granola bars. Why are they able to buy some chips.

1715
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 3: I think that it's good. I think it's a two

1716
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 3: way street where if you're a good host, it makes

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01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 3: people want to be a good guest. But I think

1718
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,839
Speaker 3: some people don't know that you cannot show up empty

1719
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 3: hand into someone's house. This person is bringing nothing. You

1720
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 3: have to always bring at least something.

1721
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 2: But what if this person is obviously in need?

1722
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, is putting down someone in need?

1723
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 3: Are they? Though? I think it might just be a

1724
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 3: cheap skate. It might just be a cheapy because I

1725
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 3: think that a lot of times if you host, if

1726
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 3: you host enough, you end up getting too much stuff

1727
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 3: because people bring stuff. You're in fact these covers, beers

1728
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 3: and stuff. People bring things. I think the problem with

1729
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 3: this this event has become too informal.

1730
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: Oh interesting because.

1731
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 3: Recent that this person, this guest, has taking it for granted.

1732
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: So that maybe you send out like a paper invitation

1733
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 2: to the next event. The host is obviously addicted to hosting,

1734
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 2: and it's it's causing problems. They're not able to host

1735
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 2: an actual event because all they care about is the

1736
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 2: hosting itself. And they're not going to the grocery store. Sad,

1737
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 2: And now they're blaming their friends. I mean, obviously all

1738
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,799
Speaker 2: of their friends are off. Well if they're not bringing anything,

1739
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 2: they're singling out this one person, but what about the

1740
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 2: rest of the group bring something. This fan whatever their

1741
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: name is, needs to call out all of them in

1742
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: their next email.

1743
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 3: Also seems like a personal thing that's going on between

1744
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 3: these two individuals.

1745
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: Right, maybe maybe there's a bigger problem.

1746
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they needed to talk. They didn't have a

1747
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 3: I had to have. They didn't have a can sell you.

1748
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: For a second at the next event. Yeah, because you're

1749
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 2: in the kitchen for just one for a.

1750
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 3: Second, and then the camera person goes with them.

1751
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: And then you hear some very loud whispering, right, just

1752
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: hissing it. Okay, well, stop posting parties, cut this person

1753
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: out of your life, obviously, go to the grocery store.

1754
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: Who knows what this person's even eating at home? Yeah,

1755
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 2: maybe they're just hungry, and it's affecting everything in their life.

1756
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 3: It's too complicated. There's a lot of personal issues that

1757
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 3: came through there that I feel.

1758
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 2: Like, you know, they're kind of dumping on us. Yeah,

1759
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 2: they're so busy, yet they have time to get online

1760
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: and type out a seventy five page email. That's always

1761
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: kind of the thing. It's like, your life is so bad, listener,

1762
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 2: you have an email address and an internet connection and

1763
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: all the time in the world. Solve your own problems.

1764
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 3: Figure it out.

1765
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: Figure it out. Don't write back in again, fan, figure

1766
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 2: it out.

1767
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 3: Speak to this person. Speak to it.

1768
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe the relationship will deepen, and maybe the listener

1769
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: will bring something next time, and then you can complain

1770
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 2: about that, throw in their face. Yeah, there we go,

1771
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 2: set them up.

1772
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 3: I always think of that episode of Northern Exposure where

1773
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 3: Mandy Patinkin complained about the dinner party the Joel hosted.

1774
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 2: What happens?

1775
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 3: He just says something like, you could have at least

1776
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: clarified the butter.

1777
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 2: That's a very Mandy line.

1778
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. The fact that it stuck in my head all

1779
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 3: these years is insane, Like it's absolute madness that I

1780
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 3: remember that.

1781
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 2: If Mandy came into my home and complained about what

1782
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 2: I made lipped the table.

1783
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 3: Also, his name is Mandy Patinka, Like, how do you

1784
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 3: get that name that?

1785
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: It's the name of a wonderful elf.

1786
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 3: It's hi and Manny Patinka. I'm reading for the role

1787
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: of Jim Stevens and I am five ten and look

1788
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 3: at it in New York City.

1789
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 2: Is Mandy short for something?

1790
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 3: I don't know?

1791
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 2: It's gotta be Mandel. Oh, okay, that makes sense, Mandel,

1792
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 2: Mandel Mandy.

1793
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 3: But also I don't know anyone named Mandel. I don't

1794
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 3: never named Mandel or Mandy last name, but not a

1795
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 3: first name, right, Mandel Mandal.

1796
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: His parents were doing something there and then they weren't

1797
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: even happy with it, and they started calling him Mandy. Well, Mandy,

1798
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 2: we love you, we do. Don't complain at my dinner party.

1799
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 2: We answered the question perfectly. Did I now have my

1800
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: hand truck which is going to, you know, be with

1801
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 2: me probably for the rest of my life?

1802
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 3: That thing, It's crazy how how long that thing will last?

1803
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: Right? I feel like this is a like you buy

1804
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 2: one and that's it.

1805
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 3: I thought it was going to break forever ago, but

1806
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 3: it still persists, and I abuse that thing.

1807
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 2: I really do to get something helpful on this podcast.

1808
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 2: I mean, one in a million, this is maybe one

1809
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 2: of four things I've gotten on this or I'm like,

1810
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: that will improve my life.

1811
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 3: Nice. I wasn't sure you know something. You might have

1812
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 3: no use for it whatsoever. But it's still in its

1813
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 3: original packaging.

1814
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a brand new hand truck. Who could

1815
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 2: ask for more? And you don't know you need a

1816
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 2: hand truck until you do. Yeah, and then you're not

1817
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: going to go buy one, and so you're trying to

1818
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 2: lift it by yourself, freaking out.

1819
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 3: And you can stow it. You can stow it.

1820
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 2: Look how it folds up. I can take this on

1821
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 2: a plane.

1822
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 3: You could take it on a plane if you had

1823
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 3: to travel with your wares.

1824
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: Just kind of fold my clothes and set them on

1825
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: top of it and drag it through the air.

1826
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 3: I'm kind of cool.

1827
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 2: Actually that's not a bad idea. Yeah, I mean it's

1828
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 2: a horrible idea. But Johnny, thank you so much for being.

1829
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. It was wonderful to be such.

1830
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: A wonderful time to have you looking up my plants.

1831
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: In this Uh.

1832
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:02,919
Speaker 3: I think this is more of a hotel.

1833
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we should settle on this.

1834
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 3: This is a hotel patio.

1835
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 2: Ultimately, this is glamping. It is I think we've been glamping.

1836
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 3: It is listener.

1837
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: The podcast is over. It's just absolutely over, and you

1838
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 2: have to do something else. I love you, goodbye, I said,

1839
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by

1840
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: our dear friend Analise Nilson, and it's beautifully mixed by

1841
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 2: Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker,

1842
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come

1843
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 2: from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show

1844
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 2: on Instagram at I said no gifts. I don't want

1845
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 2: to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see

1846
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 2: pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't

1847
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 2: you want to see pictures of the gifts?

1848
01:25:53,800 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: Ivy did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear. But

1849
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: you're a guess to my home. You gotta come to

1850
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 1: me empty And I said, no guests, you're a presences

1851
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: presents enough I already had too much stuff, So how

1852
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 1: do you dare to surbey me