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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for coming to join us again. Kathy

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Speaker 1: and I are so excited to be back.

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Speaker 2: Always excited to be back. We've had a great week.

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Speaker 2: Spring has sprung. I was telling you earlier, Susan, I'm

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Speaker 2: having my house spit shine for the spring. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not here, I'm having things.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it a great feeling?

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Speaker 2: It is like the guy that's doing he's powerwashing my deck.

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Speaker 2: He's staining, restaining in my deck. He was up there

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Speaker 2: cleaning the ceiling fan. He goes, when was the last

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Speaker 2: time this ceiling fan was clean. I said, I've lived

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Speaker 2: in this house seventeen years. He goes, when was the

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Speaker 2: last time was clean? I said, seventeen years ago.

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Speaker 1: You're cleaning. Lady doesn't do that.

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Speaker 2: The ceiling fan outside on the porch outside, it's a

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Speaker 1: Because I was going to say, why is he in

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Speaker 1: the house, because what oh no, no, no, he's powerwashing.

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Speaker 2: And then come yeah, now we're not power washing in

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Speaker 2: the house. However, can I just say by PSA for

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Speaker 2: today is when you powerwash your house and near the windows.

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Speaker 2: Unless you have hermetically sealed windows, you better be falling

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Speaker 2: around with a towel because there's gonna be water on

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Speaker 2: your floor. Okay, today, not only we talk about spring cleaning,

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Speaker 2: Okay, today we're gonna have fun. We're getting into the episode.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna start with the question of the day and

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you, Susan, this is not an

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Speaker 2: easy one for me to answer some hoping you'll carry

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Speaker 2: it on this one. Okay, ready for the question. Okay,

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Speaker 2: was there ever a time that you received some tough love?

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Speaker 2: How did you react? And looking back, do you feel

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Speaker 2: differently about it?

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Speaker 1: I honestly remember, before we touched on the tough love,

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Speaker 1: I had to give tough love, and it's the fardest

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Speaker 1: thing I've ever done. But I don't think i've received,

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Speaker 1: have you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm I I don't know. I mean, I'm such

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Speaker 2: a rule follower, you know, I don't break rules very often,

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Speaker 2: so you know, tough love to me. I didn't cheat

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Speaker 2: I don't steal. So no, I don't really think i've.

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Speaker 1: How about people out there listening, Yeah, we'd like to.

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Speaker 2: Hear, because you know what, as it's when we have children,

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Speaker 2: which you and I both do, we've had to We've

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Speaker 2: had to exert tough love on our kids. But I

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Speaker 2: think as you get older, you know, again, if somebody

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Speaker 2: cheated on somebody, you get divorced, I mean that's tough love.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess yeah.

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Speaker 2: But or if you painful, Yeah, I mean those are

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Speaker 2: painful things. But as an adult, I would hope that

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Speaker 2: you're not having that. We're not having tough love.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's given me tough love.

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Speaker 2: I hey, listen, I just want love. I don't need

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Speaker 2: tough love.

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Speaker 1: I just want real, be real.

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Speaker 2: Let's be real. Was there ever a time that I

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Speaker 2: received some tough love note, Am I ready for love? Yes?

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Speaker 2: That's I mean, I don't know what else to say

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Speaker 1: I know that's a tough one. That's a tough one

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Speaker 1: because I don't recall like, well, like you're getting a

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Speaker 1: divorce and tough love is you got to accept it

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I think it's hard. We both talked

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Speaker 2: you're wondering, why the hell did I have kids?

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Speaker 1: Like that is not recommend it having kids. No, given

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Speaker 2: You don't want tough love.

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Speaker 1: It's the hardest thing I've ever done.

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Speaker 2: But you don't recommend it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not easy. You have to it changed.

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Speaker 1: The hardest thing you ever do, especially with somebody that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it has to be consistent, like

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Speaker 2: you can't you can't go back once you've taken that step.

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Speaker 1: You have to stand firm.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if so, here's the question Folks write in

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Speaker 2: and tell us, like raising kids, we're doing our own

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Speaker 2: Question of the day here.

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Speaker 1: Raising kids so hard and you want to be fun

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Speaker 1: and you want to be their friend, but you can't.

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Speaker 1: You're a parent.

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Speaker 2: You're not, and you're not even when they get older,

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Speaker 2: when they have a baby, oh, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: There's moments. There's moments as a grandmom though, driving down

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Speaker 2: They don't see each other that much though, right or do.

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Speaker 1: They as often as we can every few months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so cute. I mean that's the other thing,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing this summer. I am going to Canada with

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Speaker 2: all my kids and my two grandchildren. Yep, we're doing

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Speaker 1: It's awesome. That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: So that's my tough love taking my kids to Canada.

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into our fan questions for today. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go ahead and read the first one, and it is

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Speaker 1: from an anonymous Hi, ladies, I'm sorry this question is

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Speaker 1: kind of tough, but I really need your advice. I'm

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Speaker 1: I do love them, but I really wish I could

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Speaker 1: just don't feel like myself anymore, and my entire identity

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Speaker 2: Wow. You know what, I think. We have no idea

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Speaker 2: because it's anonymous, but I'm guessing, Susan that this dad

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Speaker 2: is reaching middle age and it's about he's.

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Speaker 1: Not a good identity.

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Speaker 2: I think others he's regretting the things maybe that he

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Speaker 2: hasn't done in his life, and he's saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's thinking. I'm guessing this is more about hitting middle

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Speaker 2: age and what he couldn't do and what he has.

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Speaker 2: You know, how much time does he have left? And

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Speaker 2: you know, I hate to say this, but I had

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Speaker 2: a lot of friends, not a lot of friends, but

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Speaker 2: some of my friends who went through divorces between forty

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Speaker 2: and fifty for exactly this reason. They felt like life

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Speaker 2: was passing them by. They had all they had done

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Speaker 2: was go from changing diapers to driving the Little League

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Speaker 2: I think it's anonymous. I feel sorry that you feel

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Speaker 2: that way. I'd reach out and get some counseling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you might need something? Yes? And not

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Speaker 1: only that, I feel like women feel this way, not

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Speaker 1: when they're ten, fourteen, and sixteen, when they're born after

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Speaker 1: the first year, because we do lose our identity. We

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Speaker 1: are a mom, We are responsible for these little human

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Speaker 1: with their sex life and they're dating again. It's about

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Speaker 1: the kids. It's not about you anymore. Just to take

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Speaker 1: a shower mint the world to me, you know, I

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Speaker 1: had twins with a three year old. That was like,

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Speaker 1: what about me? There was no time for me. Dad

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Speaker 1: seems like he's hands on with these kids. But he's

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Speaker 1: having regrets because he should be living right now. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, you will grow out of this regret.

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Speaker 1: You will. You're going to be very proud of what

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Speaker 2: But I take issue with that, Susan. I don't feel

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Speaker 2: like I ever lost my identity. I loved being a mom.

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Speaker 2: I loved taking care of my kids. I loved being

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Speaker 2: those things. But then when the kids left, that's when

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Speaker 2: I struggled with identity because I spent so much time

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Speaker 2: think that everybody goes through this what Anonymous is going

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Speaker 1: Saying he doesn't feel like he connects with them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's something different. I mean I would encourage

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Speaker 2: you know, the other thing is teenagers. They're supposed to

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Speaker 2: be distant. They're supposed to be finding their way.

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Speaker 1: In their lives. So I so, what part he's not

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Speaker 1: connecting with and he loves them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's more of a story.

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Speaker 1: I think he needs some help. They really do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't don't. Don't feel guilty that you feel that way.

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Speaker 2: You're entitled to your feelings. But I will get some

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Speaker 2: help and see what's really going on in your mind

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Speaker 2: that's making me feel.

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Speaker 1: A suppression thing that's happening, you know, you're feeling like

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Speaker 1: you regret but you love your children.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. I mean, who knows.

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Speaker 2: But I wonder if there's something an issue with this

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Speaker 1: Or with the kids in their life part of it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, but if there's something. And when

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Speaker 2: and again I'm not a therapist, but what I'm hearing

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, she said, I feel like our relationship

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Speaker 2: Teenagers don't are a whole different species. And what you're

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Speaker 1: I wonder Kathy if she had that heart to heart

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Speaker 2: How many years later, are we talking, Susan.

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Speaker 1: It's still haunting her though. This is real and I

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Speaker 1: All righty Kelly, ladies, I'm pissed and I need your help, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So tell me why I got ghosted by a man

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Speaker 2: Hey, of course you would. I'm just saying if he's

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Speaker 2: Don't be rude, Kelly, answer the mom and say what

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Speaker 2: No, she said, I know we got the card because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I don't. What do you do

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Speaker 2: with that? You write her back? Always Kelly, always stay

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Speaker 2: Say I'm so glad you liked the card, and move on.

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Speaker 1: Any months and he's just gonna ghost her.

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Speaker 2: That's what he did. Do you, Susan, put yourself in

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Speaker 1: No, that's not acceptable. I'm sorry. That is not being

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't need to hear that. If a guy

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Speaker 1: See my brain, I would think something happened to him.

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Speaker 2: I would just say, but you know what if something

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he could be lying in a hospital

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Speaker 1: So you're seeing somebody for eight months, the better part

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Speaker 2: Well, well let me justa okay, fair enough, I'm warm

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no, She's.

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Speaker 1: No, of course, not that that makes sense. But my

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Speaker 2: You don't know me. If you think I would do that,

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Speaker 1: Never say leaving it empty. You don't even know why

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Speaker 2: I'm not marrying his mother and you just said he's

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Speaker 1: I would. I would definitely what. I'm so happy that

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Speaker 1: I hope everything's okay. Plant the seed a men. Let

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Speaker 2: We want to know Kelly. And I feel sorry for you,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I feel terribly sorry for you. All right,

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Speaker 2: let us know, Kelly. All right, we're gonna do another game,

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Speaker 2: tough Love edition of Red Flag or Red Rose.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's a tough love. Why are we on tough love?

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Speaker 2: Oh I love this, all right, this is all right.

435
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: Telling your friend who keeps talking about her situationship. Maybe

436
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 1: he's not texting you because he's just not that into

437
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: you telling your friend who keeps talking about her situationship.

438
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: Meaning meaning she's not here for the guy, and you say, well, Kathy,

439
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 2: maybe he's not texting because he's just not that into you.

440
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: That to me, I give you a red rose for

441
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,239
Speaker 2: telling me that. Not you know, if he's not into you,

442
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: that is a red flag.

443
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: It's necessary tough love. Yeah, that's a red rose, right.

444
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: Right, that's what I say. Okay, all right, Telling your

445
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: friend who's venting about her X again, if you keep

446
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: going back to him, you don't get to complain about

447
00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: him anymore. Oh, definitely a red rose. Definitely a red yeah, okay,

448
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: go ahead, alright.

449
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: Refusing to attend someone's wedding because they're marrying someone.

450
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: Toxic, that's not that's red flag. That is a red flag.

451
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: If you've got somebody who won wed, not your decision. Okay.

452
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: Calling out your friend for being the toxic one in

453
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: all her breakups when she's freshly out of a long

454
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: term relationship, love baby, I think if she's if she's

455
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: freshly out of a long term it depends who broke

456
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: up with whom. I think if you, if you, you know,

457
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: don't hit a dog when they're down.

458
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: No, I know, but if you're a real friend, you're

459
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: going to have to point it out.

460
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: Not calling out your friend for being the toxic one

461
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: in all her breakups when she's freshly out of a relationship.

462
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: Because she's repeating her.

463
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 2: You're going to and my heart's broken because some guy

464
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: just broke up and me and go like, O, well, Kathy,

465
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: get over it. You're the tox one that's gonna hurt

466
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: my feelings and make me feel worse.

467
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, what I will know. But if you repeat

468
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: the same pattern. I'm thinking of somebody in particular that

469
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: repeats the same exact things and then afterwards regrets the

470
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: way she looked, the way she acted and behaves, and

471
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: I tried to tell her over and over and over again.

472
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: Why do you do that?

473
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: Well? I think I think I think that for me,

474
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: and you're a good friend, you would tell me about it.

475
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: I don't think you would tell me when I was

476
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: crying and called you up there. So I think it's

477
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: about timing here.

478
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, telling someone that you're breaking up with

479
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: them because you're tired of emotionally parenting them.

480
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: That's a red rose. You're being honest, man.

481
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you're right.

482
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: I mean the guy is a red flag. If you

483
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: have to emotion a parent of guy, that's a red flag.

484
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: All right. Oh, reminding a friend to pay you back

485
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: if they haven't within twenty four hours, that's a red flag.

486
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: By the way, Susan, you owe me five bucks.

487
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm twenty four hours. Like, if it's ridiculous two weeks

488
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: or something and they haven't made an effort payday case.

489
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: I think it's a red flag if you're doing it within.

490
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, saying I love you, but I can't listen to

491
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: this story about your ex for the thirtieth time.

492
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: I love that. It's a red rose rose absolutely leaving.

493
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: You know why it's a red rose because you've listened

494
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: to it for thirty times and you just don't need

495
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: to hear it anymore. No one needs to hear it anymore.

496
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: You can't listen anymore, okay. Leaving the group chat because no,

497
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: this is a good one. Leaving the group chat because

498
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: no one ever responds to your messages.

499
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: It's a group chat.

500
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: Well, like if we were in a group chat with

501
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: seventy people and I said, you know, where do you

502
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: want to go on vacation? And no one answers me,

503
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: I'd probably leave the group chat.

504
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: Yes' screw it, they're annoying anyhow. Yeah, cutting off a

505
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: long time friend because they never ask how you're doing.

506
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: I mean that says a lot about somebody. If they're

507
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: never asking you how you're doing.

508
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: I get that. But just cutting them off because they

509
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: never asked how you're doing. Sometimes they don't have to ask,

510
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: you just tell I don't true.

511
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't know about that one. I think I could

512
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: go either way. Yeah, all right. Telling your child who's

513
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: in college, Oh, this is a bouquet of red roses.

514
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: Telling your child who's in college that they can't move

515
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: back home without paying rent that you actually used to

516
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: pay for house bills, not money that you're saving for them.

517
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: That is I'm so impressed to anyone who does that.

518
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: Not you, No, because in today's world, it's going to

519
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: take time to get a job.

520
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh I made the assumption I have a job. No no, No,

521
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: I made the assumption the kid has a job and

522
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 2: it's just living at home because it's cheaper, meaning free.

523
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh no, if if a child.

524
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: In it, you know they graduate, okay, you can't come

525
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: back into.

526
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: Your No no, no. If I read this. Let me let

527
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: me clarify before I get hate mail. I read this.

528
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: I read this that the child had graduated college, had

529
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: a job, was moving back home. I mean, I would

530
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: probably give them two or three months to get a

531
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: little money in the bank and kind.

532
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: Of get their jobs. You got to take something, you.

533
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: Know, I'm trying to. After a couple of months, I

534
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: would say, okay, look, you know you're using the hot

535
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: water and the electricity. You got to help me for

536
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: me after.

537
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: They get out of college, and you're going to pay

538
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: your own self bill. Okay, I'm done.

539
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh god, you know they make that hard because

540
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: the more my kids are thirty something before they paid

541
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: their own car insurance. Well, the more, the more phones,

542
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: the more lines you have, the cheaper the phone will.

543
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: Become nowadays, but not back then.

544
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: Now, you're right, all right, Okay?

545
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: Refusing to help your sibling babysit because they were never

546
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: able to watch your children. Oh that's terrible. Oh that's

547
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: a I'm confused with the.

548
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: Flag in the rood. Yeah, I'm confused. But let's just

549
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: talk about this. Do you think it's ever okay to

550
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: refuse to ow?

551
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: You should help if you can and you're available. Why not?

552
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: Because they didn't do it for you, so I'm not

553
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: going to do it for you, and I'm not that

554
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: way great to me. If anything, I'll be like the martyr.

555
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: Of course I call them.

556
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: Susan, How do you feel want to come and take

557
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: care of my cats? I mean, I know you don't

558
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: have cats, but you know it's the same thing, all right.

559
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: Telling your mom after a stressful conversation that she needs

560
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: therapy and you're not her therapist. I think that's cruel.

561
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: That is cruel to your mother. Yeah, I would maybe suggest

562
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: therapy if I thought it needed.

563
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: But it's how you say it.

564
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: Delivery delivery, leaving the family group chat after one more

565
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: why are you still single? Comment?

566
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: Hell? I not would only leave a family chat, I'd

567
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: block them all.

568
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: I'd stay in there and just torture them. You tell

569
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: me why.

570
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: No, Susan be sitting by.

571
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: And then when you do find one, they got something

572
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: to say about that too. I can't.

573
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: What did I tell you the other day? I'm saying

574
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: it too for all vaclination, What did I tell you?

575
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: This is your life. It's time you live your life.

576
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: For you, you've raised your kids. Live your life. For you,

577
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: and Susan's like, oh, but I live for everybody to

578
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: be happy. It's not possible. Everyone is not just.

579
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: That they're struggling with Okay, Okay, go ahead, I'm just still.

580
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: On the single comment. Okay. When confronted by a friend

581
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: as to why you guys don't hang out anymore, you

582
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: say we're not close because you were never emotionally available

583
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: growing up.

584
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: Why the hell says that?

585
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: I mean, oh my god, I mean if if I

586
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: I'm of specially somehow close, because I mean, you've got

587
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: friends from when you grew up, I don't because you

588
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: live where you grew up, I don't.

589
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: So and I choose not to hang out with some

590
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: of them because they're more negative people. I'm all about

591
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: the positive energy.

592
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't be well, but would you? And so

593
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: am I? But would you ever say to someone now

594
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: we're not close? Okay, Susan? When I call you tonight,

595
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to be a friend

596
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: anymore because you have not been emotionally available.

597
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: Are emotionally available? We hear each other stories, we cry

598
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: with each other. I mean, yeah, we feel.

599
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: Each other's pain. It's just pathetic, you know.

600
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: What, Either people out there that would say these things

601
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: to me, I look at them like they're cold.

602
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: You know what, I think some people are so self involved,

603
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: so egocentric. All they think about is themselves, what makes

604
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: them happy. They don't stop to think, how will this

605
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: make someone feel? You know, how will this make Susan feel?

606
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 2: If I say, they just blurt it out and they

607
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: don't and they don't care. And I will say, as

608
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: I've gotten older, I think when you're young, we all

609
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: say stuff. Well, we're much more aware. We don't blurt

610
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: things out like we used to.

611
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: Well, I still blurt them out well, but I still

612
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: during the conversation, I say, what's going on in your life?

613
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's not just my phone call about me?

614
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, whoever you're talking to, you share and.

615
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: Well you're going. You're right now. Sometimes we both wort

616
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: things out, but we're either being funny or we're making jokes,

617
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: but not seriously do I what I ever call you

618
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: up and say what the hell is you know? Come on,

619
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: no one, you.

620
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: Weren't emotionally available for me, therefore.

621
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: We're right, So we're done. You were an emotionally available

622
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: to me on that cruise we're going to take. So

623
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: you're done, You're dead to me.

624
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: She better not gets sick.

625
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to buy Wait can we just say we're

626
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: going on a cruise together. Well, we're going to go

627
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: to Greece and Istambul, Turkey and and you know what

628
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm doing, I'm loading up on c bands, drama, mean big.

629
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't think on a big ship, I'll get sick. Right,

630
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: Please tell me no.

631
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: No. If it's rough seas sometimes you feel it a

632
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: little bit. But no.

633
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going to ask you so everyone can know.

634
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: Are you going to help me pack? What your brand?

635
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: There we go? So you're going to have so many

636
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: clothes by the just bring it all, just bring everything.

637
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: I like choices. I love people that say I can

638
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: go in a backpack for a week.

639
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: I go.

640
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: How you wear the same think she does? Well, I

641
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: wash it, I go. But the whole idea of vacation.

642
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm wearing your fun clothes.

643
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: And all these people that buy these clothes that you

644
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: know you wash them out in their SPF fifty, I

645
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: mean they look like they just hit out in the

646
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: jungle for a month.

647
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: Wrinkle.

648
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: You can throw it in your bag like oh oh

649
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: man and they wash it. Can I just tell you

650
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: what is poisoned to my ears? When someone goes on

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Speaker 2: vacation and I asked that question, they go, oh, I

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Speaker 2: just wash it out in the sink at night. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I just gags me, like I wash it.

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Speaker 1: I've done it, though, if you can't get to a

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Speaker 1: washer and something, Susan.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you bring enough clothes. You bring enough

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Speaker 2: clothes to dress the entire resort for a week, so

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Speaker 2: I get over. I'm just saying, like, can you imagine

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Speaker 2: travel with like that? Those travel pants that everybody.

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Speaker 1: Can It's not cute.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, six people can fit into

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Speaker 2: one pair.

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Speaker 1: It's all about fashion, you know.

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Speaker 2: And then if you want wear that dress, wait, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna you know, I'm buying you for your birthday next year.

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Speaker 2: Those pants that unzip at the knee too. For one,

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Speaker 2: you get a pair of shorts.

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Speaker 1: And I have them in my golf pants.

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Speaker 2: I'd hiking pants like that. And when I hike, when

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Speaker 2: I go to a big bend or you know I.

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Speaker 1: Have it's cold in the morning, you wear the long

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Speaker 1: ones and then I unzip them.

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Speaker 2: I want to see you. I want to see that.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, this was Oh my god, that was so fun.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything else you haven't chatted about today that?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm mending my arm. It's time to go

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Speaker 1: to physical therapy now and just doing the little have

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Speaker 1: me sore. It's this is taken for it.

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Speaker 2: But you want to do them, Susan seriously, because when

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Speaker 2: I broke mine, he said to me, if you don't

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Speaker 2: do the exercises, it'll be deforment. It will never be

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Speaker 2: the same. You will not have movement in your rest

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Speaker 2: and you don't want that.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't. Well, I want to thank everybody for

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Speaker 1: joining us today and listening, and what is your take

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Speaker 1: on some of these questions? What red flag rose? I

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Speaker 1: like roses?

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Speaker 2: I know I like roses. I want lots of roses,

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Speaker 2: not one a bouquet a bouquet, but until I get

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Speaker 2: the bouquet. Be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as

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Speaker 2: more episodes coming up with fan questions, we have more

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Speaker 2: great guests coming up. We're gonna hear about Susan's wrist

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Speaker 2: until it is healed. We're gonna hear about Susan's upcoming travels.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna you're gonna hear about our crews. It's all coming,

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Speaker 2: it's all coome.

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